since the other thread is an tripfag, jpg shitpost dump, let's have a thread actually about the new concept poster and new movie theories
#1 question
what the fuck is QB exactly if homu is the devil
Judas
>>139283710
but he's an ayyylmao
rebellion talked about the mayan calander stuff but never concluded all the bloodmoons iirc
>>139283649
>that image
>angry Madoka
>powerless Homura
Some of these MadoHomu artists act passive-aggressive as hell against Homura.
>>139284413
but she earned her dislike
we could be discussing how the ending was happy and perfect but now we have to wait for a series wrap up movie
>>139283649
Homu is Lucifer. A fallen angel not devil.
>>139284413
>Silver
>Passive-aggressive toward Homura
The picture is a reference to a mobile game that the artist was playing. Devil Homura was a rare special promitional catch or something.
>>139284708
She's still overwhelmingly the most popular meguca in Japan.
>>139284708
Not really, Homura has always been the biggest hero, Madoka doesn't do much in comparison. The level of dislike tells far more about the fan base than the character, in my opinion. Maybe that's why they're taking a million years to do anything new.
>>139285324
Yeah, Silver definitely is something like that, at least when it comes to his shipping.
>>139285519
Doesn't feel like it. I was under the impression Japan liked Madoka and Mami the most. Maybe the normal fans who buy stuff like Homura the most though.
>>139285002
idk senpai
she calls herself a demon
i think kyubei is lucifer and she's satan
>>139285953
>she's the biggest hero
I guess that's why she literally shitted up an implied countless timelines for her own greedy wish. Sayaka was on to something when she called out her time-shield-pocket-purse shinnanigans.
I don't dislike the wait though really, desu.
>>139285953
>I was under the impression Japan liked Madoka and Mami the most.
Homura > Mami > Madoka
That's the generally the break down I see.
>>139286251
Madoka could not become Madokami without Homura. Sayaka is the last one that needs to be calling out Homura considering how badly she tends to fuck everything up.
>>139286442
Implying Madokami is for the best. Sayaka did nothing wrong.
>>139286251
Not sure what you're implying, but Homura going on for Madoka's sake is praised heavily in canon. It generates the karma that allows Madoka to become a goddess, and Homura has angel wings in the anime ending. Sayaka on the other hand is portrayed entirely in the wrong. If I remember correctly, she ends up killing some innocent people on a train after her rant against Homura.
>>139286442
Where do you get that from though? From what I see in doujinsand threads, Madoka and Mami are always favored in some way.
>>139287170
Was it really for Madoka's sake though? It was all for her own desires, not the benefit of Madoka per se, that's why she is keeping her brainwashed. Homura has devil wings at the end of the anime. Sayaka got angry at those guys but there was no real indicator she killed them. She was the only magical girl that was fighting purely to keep people safe, disregarding her own need for grief seeds.
>>139283649
an ~amoral~ little and apathetic little shit
who /futa/ Kyouko here?
>>139287526
I was talking about the anime. Rebellion is different, it's a rebellion against Madoka for the greater good. Homura has some kind of special wings in the anime's post-epilogue, but they aren't the same as the devil wings of rebellion. Sayaka was strongly implied to have killed those people on the train, but even ignoring that she hurt everyone around her and became a witch in record time. She never saved anyone, she couldn't win a witch fight without breaking down. Her feelings were obviously in another place, no grief seed would have helped her much.
>>139287678
so he's actually an athiest
>>139288316
does QB browse reddit?
>>139283649
I've actually thought that Kyubey is Mephistophiles from the Faust legend.
>>139287997
They look like witches wings at the anime end, which would explain her being a witch in rebellion and would also explain her being in some random secluded area where Kyubei trapped her soul. If Sayaka killed them why didn't Sakura confront her about it since she was following behind her? She prevented witches being born by attacking familiars which is indirectly keeping people safe, "breaking down" really doesn't change that.
>>139288865
post more secret texts senpai
>>139288505
not enough preteen girls desu
>>139285953
In terms of popularity it's always been Homura > Kyouko > Mami > Sayaka > Madoka
>>139287170
>Where do you get that from though? From what I see in doujins and threads, Madoka and Mami are always favored in some way.
Searching 魔法少女まどかマギカ on Melonbooks brings me nothing but NSFW and SFW MadoHomu and KyouSaya. Mami's doujinshi are also overwhelming porn.
Fan fiction aside, Mami is inexplicably popular among the Japanese fan base, but Mami really only out does Homura in manga sales.
>>139288865
looks like you're on to sonething
>>139289506
No, it's true that Mami is pretty popular in Japan, as is Madoka. That's why some people are already throwing out the fan pandering accusations after it was announced Mami was going to be the central focus of the next project.
>>139289637
(cont) But Homu continues to be top even after Rebellion.
>>139289575
>>139289637
Mami is only popular because of those mammis.
>>139289772
why is she the mostsoft-heartedaccording to homu
>>139289995
You already know why.
>>139289022
They do look something like that, but this doesn't change her position or what she did for Madoka. They did use is as a sequel hook though. As for Sayaka, hunting familiars is foolish, going straight for the witch itself is the efficient way to save people. That's why we only see her going after witches later on. The train incident is something only we the audience see, Kyouko doesn't even know anything until Sayaka reveals her soul gem in the end.
>>139289575
I was partially judging things based on the reading of non-hetero doujins though, both SFW and NSFW. Madoka is almost always favored or in control, especially in MadoHomu. Mami always seems to just get her way with others, she's like the idolized girl for some reason, even though she's suppose to be the most mentally troubled.
>Mami is inexplicably popular among the Japanese fan base, but Mami really only out does Homura in manga sales.
Yeah, Mami definitely feels more popular in my experience. Homura would probably be more popular in sales for any normal fan. She is suppose to be the action hero and the real main character, she should be the most popular, right? When the side character with a side manga is somehow more popular, it says something. Or maybe it really does come down to Mami's mammies, I don't know anymore...
>>139291375
>Madoka is almost always favored or in control
This is a pretty popular /u/ meme, anon. Go back and watch the scene on the ship in Rebellon.
>Mami always seems to just get her way with others
That's pretty in character.
>When the side character with a side manga is somehow more popular, it says something. Or maybe it really does come down to Mami's mammies, I don't know anymore...
Her manga is almost nothing but her bending over in suggestive positions and bemoaning the fact she's single.
>>139289612
I know I heard it from somewhere else, but I can't recall where exactly. Even without that, the quotations on the walls are a pretty dead giveaway that PMMM is a Japanese take on Goethe's Faust.
>>139292067
Inu Curry did those and the other Faust references. Gen claims to have never read Faust, but Shinbo may have. There's nothing very Faustian in the series proper though. Kyubey is your typical monkey's paw present in many stories and it's a pretty generic "be careful what you wish for".
>>139292632
It's interesting to note, glossing over the synopses for Faust, that Mephistophiles originally came to Faust in the form of a poodle (then a kind of sheepdog). So Kyubey looking almost like a kind of weasel itself has antecedents in the myth.
It's not a straightforward adaptation for sure, but the fact that all the MGs are destined to become witches that live behind these barriers sounds similar to how all those who make a bargain with the Devil are ultimately doomed to die, and become one of the tortured souls in Hell.
>>139293036
>So Kyubey looking almost like a kind of weasel itself has antecedents in the myth.
Kyubey looked like a generic mahou shoujo mascot character.
>It's not a straightforward adaptation for sure
Because it's not an adaptation.
I can't get off unless I'm fantasizing about forcing Homura to watch Madoka and I fuck. Do I have a problem?
>>139289612
so, rebelion is still faust thing
>>139283649
he is the outsider
>>139289637
>it was announced Mami was going to be the central focus of the next project.
I really hope this doesn't actually happen. That pretty much ruins an important purpose that character had since the first quarter of the show.
>>139289637
Honestly, I don't think I will be able to stand the sudden focus on Mami. She literally has nothing going for her except boobs and overpowered in battle. Why not focus on more interesting characters like Kyouko?
Hey /a/, I was considering watching this anime, but first, I have a question. Are there any boring self-insert male characters in it? Or meaningless love plots? Interesting male characters/love plots are fine, if they enhance the story in someway, but I'm sure you get what I mean.
Thanks.
>>139294939
The specifically referenced her as a Guan Yu 3 Kingdoms figure. I think she'll just be doing the fighting against Homura (and possibly Sayaka if she went justicebitch again) in Madoka's place. Any sequel that does not focus on how Madoka feels about the whole situation they're in and how she feels about Homura at this point would be an insane move.
>>139294939
don't you wanna find out about bebe anon? if mami is the focus I'm guessing that would mean she just gets the backstory revealed....
>>139295151
>if mami is the focus I'm guessing that would mean she just gets the backstory revealed..
Think Rebellion. But with Mami.
>>139295045
the only male plot device is seemingly kyubei. sataka has a love interest but he isnt a general focus
>>139295045
>Are there any boring self-insert male characters in it
Just one, but he's pretty much irrelevant.
>Or meaningless love plots?
There's a love triangle that exists for the sole reason of developing Sayakaor more like for making her suffer.
Keep in mind that the Yuri in Madoka is just limited to undertones and heavy implications.
>>139295179
there's a few plotholes that need to be filled that revolve around her though. she was the first one that kyubei revealed himself to, bebe as mentioned above, and why was she able to resist homu's time freeze in rebellion outside of her ttansformed state
>>139295363
transformed* and who were her parents?
>>139295134
That's really out of character for Mami, since she's the weakest emotionally. Every time she's faced with the "truth" she either doesn't accept it, or breaks.
>>139295151
"Bebe" was a pointless addition in Rebellion.
>>139295363
>she was the first one that kyubei revealed himself
When?
>able to resist homu's time freeze in rebellion outside of her ttansformed state
She grabbed Homu with a ribbon when Homura asked for a refill on tea. This is very obvious.
>>139295363
What about Bebe? There's nothing that could be added to Bebe.
>>139295207
>>139295218
Alright, that sounds tolerable. I'll give it a go, then. I figured the yuri wasn't explicit, but I'm more interested in a intriguing story and dynamic characters anyway.And I love me some dark themes in anime.
Thanks again.
>>139295430
>Every time she's faced with the "truth" she either doesn't accept it, or breaks.
Except she isn't in Rebellion. Way to make a point that hasn't been relevant since 2013.
>"Bebe" was a pointless addition in Rebellion
Bebe cured her loneliness, thus making her a more formidable fighter.
>>139295397
>who were her parents?
>Implying this fucking matters
They're dead. Literally shown in episode 2.
>>139295430
hopefully not anymore in the new movie. it sort of has a point already though.
>madoka changes the universe to make magical girls/witches wishes come true
>witches are now saved by madoka before they become witches
>wraiths....?????
Since Mami has Bebe now, she won't break as easily as she did in previous timelines.
>>139295468
when she was seconds away from dying in that mystery car accident
>>139295582
they neber said if her parents were dead desu. all assumed headcanon
>>139295538
>Except she isn't in Rebellion. Way to make a point that hasn't been relevant since 2013.
She literally just tagged along after Bebe explained the situation. That's all she did. And even before that, she was fighting Homura tooth and nail despite anything Homura tried to explain to her. It makes no sense for Mami to be the focal point in anything. That's not her character.
>Bebe cured her loneliness, thus making her a more formidable fighter.
Nope. Having all of the MGs together is what cured her loneliness. Bebe did absolutely nothing, save being a plot device in a past that never existed. Way to not even watch the movie.
>>139295700
>when she was seconds away from dying in that mystery car accident
That's not a plot hole. That's what he does. Why did he approach Kyoko? Why did he approach Madoka?
>they neber said if her parents were dead desu. all assumed headcanon
Because not everyone is stupid enough to need every thing spoon fed to them.
>>139295700
>they neber said if her parents were dead desu. all assumed headcanon
Are you an idiot? She made a wish to save only herself. Why do you think she lives alone? Why else do you think she feels lonely?
>>139295468
>she grabbed homu at tea
what? she never got ribboned until she was choking bebe.
>>139295724
>It makes no sense for Mami to be the focal point in anything.
Homura said she felt bad because she would decimate Mami because Mami had the weakest heart. 5 minutes before being defeated by Mami. It was a pretty big deal.
Actually it does make sense for Mami to be the main character. She has the least development and thus they can write almost anything they want about her.
>>139295831
Rewatch it retard.
>>139295831
She has Homura ribboned throughout the entire tea party scene. Chances are she noticed that she was acting weird so just out of precaution she attached a ribbon to her.
>>139295795
it's a plothole because what made her so special to be the first one? nothing kyubei does isnt calculated. this is heavily supported by homu's many attempts to figure him out. why does he approach madoka? because he could sense her latent but huge magical power.
>spoonfed
i guess kyouko's parents story was "spoonfed" as well. psh. who really cared about her backstory either..amirite?
>>139295983
And if you pay close attention, she even looks down into Homura's tea cup, notices it's full, and gives a look before proceeding to ribbon her. It's very blatant.
>>139295923
>5 minutes before being defeated by Mami. It was a pretty big deal.
I think this is the issue a lot of people seem to be having. It should never have been a "big deal" to be beaten my Mami. That's literally the point. Mami died in the original show, despite being the most talented or most powerful. That was the point of her character, to illustrate to the viewers that power or talent has no relation to a character's importance in the show.
They started erring away from that a little bit in Rebellion. Not as much as I think you think, but they did. If she becomes the main deal in the new content, they're practically throwing characters out the window for the sake of pandering.
>>139296048
>i guess kyouko's parents story was "spoonfed" as well
Are you incapable of telling the difference between a significant plot point and a foot note?
Go read this if you want Mami backstory.
>>139296133
>If she becomes the main deal in the new content, they're practically throwing characters out the window for the sake of pandering.
I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying this is the reality we have to accept.
>>139296133
To make you even more peeved, Hitomi will have a role.
>>139295497
Different anon but the characters are what sell the series. As someone who sat through it three times to show friends it can be a bit slow and dialogue-heavy, but the characters are all pretty likeable.
>>139296173
Though it isn't a backstory that's relevant to the story's canon it is a nice read for in depth Mami.
>>139296297
The problem is Mami is barely relevant to the story's canon.
>>139296133
Mami died, not because she lacked strength. She was simply too full of herself and too endorsed in the idea that her cute kouhais were looking up to her. She let her guard down and died because of that.
>>139296270
The only role I can imagine Hitomi playing is if it were to focus again on her relationship with Sayaka regarding the matter of Kyousuke. Perhaps they will finally have the much needed heart-felt talk.
>>139296331
Suppose that's why she may have a main role in the upcoming new project.
>>139295957
take your own advice shithead
>>139295983
wrong desu. homura said herself she wouldn't do anything out of the ordinary to bring attention to herself.
>>139296076
wrong again. much headcanon itt. none of the magical girls use their powers outside of their transformed state
posting screencaps
>>139296403
I hope to god not. They already concluded that plot line in E12 and Rebellion.
>>139296214
>this is the reality we have to accept.
Yeah you're probably right.
I know I'm probably just hoping for the best here, but wasn't the show original marketed as a typical mahou shoujo before it aired? Not only that, but for the majority of the show it played as if Madoka was the main character. And, even in Rebellion, the first thirty or so minutes of the movie went on as if it was a typical mahou shoujo again. Maybe they're running the same trick now with Mami, before the new stuff is released? I doubt it, but here's to hoping.
>>139296270
>To make you even more peeved, Hitomi will have a role.
Fuck me I wouldn't even be surprised, actually.
>>139296359
I don't think you're wrong, but I think there was definitely more to it than that. The whole scene before the witch fight where Mami was confessing her insecurities to Madoka pretty much tells us that she wasn't solid on an emotional level. I don't think it's coincidence that that's what preceded thebeheading
>>139296437
Oh Jesus fucking Christ anon. It's when she gets up and walks behind Homura.
>>139296437
>>139296475
They didn't. Sayaka and Hitomi didn't talk once after Hitomi supposedly hooked up with Kyousuke.
>>139296483
>Yeah you're probably right.
>I know I'm probably just hoping for the best here, but wasn't the show original marketed as a typical mahou shoujo before it aired? Not only that, but for the majority of the show it played as if Madoka was the main character. And, even in Rebellion, the first thirty or so minutes of the movie went on as if it was a typical mahou shoujo again. Maybe they're running the same trick now with Mami, before the new stuff is released? I doubt it, but here's to hoping.
The problem is we all expect it at this point. Rebellion did the mahou shojo thing to inform us we were supposed to feel uncomfortable.
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>>139296437
>>139296522
Fucking idiot. Pay attention to the damn ribbon to Homura's left.
>>139296578
It's implied they chatted at least a few times in Rebellion. Sayaka even talks about being happy for Hitomi and that she's over "captain oblivious". There's a whole month we don't see inbetween Homura showing up at Mitakihara Middle School and Madoka and Homura's first talk in the park.
>>139296515
lies
>>139296666
FUCK YOU ANON IT'S RIGHT THERE
>>139296666
Would you let Homura peg you /a/?
>>139296665
>It's implied they chatted at least a few times in Rebellion
[citation needed] Not saying that it couldn't have happened, but I didn't see it implied anywhere that they talked. They're not even shown to be that close in Rebellion.
All I'm saying is that Hitomi was a fucking bitch and that she at least needs to talk to Sayaka once.
>>139296173
no point in reading that since we're getting a movie
>>139296815
>All I'm saying is that Hitomi was a fucking bitch and that she at least needs to talk to Sayaka once.
I guess it comes down to how important Urobuchi feels it is. There's way more important things going on at the end of Rebellion that need to be addressed.
>>139296694
not gonna lie a missed it, rekt my shit
admit to this though. mami's backstory has potential
>>139296896
>>139296881
And Urobuchi said that Hitomi was getting a bmore prominent role. And I say that it could possibly be because of her business with Sayaka.
Though it could possibly be that she becomes aware of the magical girls' existence judging by some of the dialogue in the concept trailer.
>>139296416
Yeah, I think she's a blank slate. She been shown that she can identify with Madoka's sense of righteousness, but she can also sympathize with Homura's loneliness and self-doubt if they decide to incorporate elements of her TDS characterization. Gives them pretty free reign.
>>139296817
Just fuck off retard.
>>139296896
>>139296967
There's no potential for a backstory there because Bebe existing in the Labyrinth and having a history with Mami was literally a creation from Homulily's mind. None of it actually happened. There is absolutely nothing that could possibly still be exploited from Mami's past. We already know that she made the selfish wish of saving just herself instead of herself AND her parents.
>>139297010
kek. why are you so mad though? mami is important
>>139297030
Anon, he thinks Mami's parents dying is head canon.
>what if
>>139297064
>sample
She's irrelevant.
>>139297030
bebe was riding that elephant with sayaka at the end of rebellion. how was she not real?
>>139297064
>mami is important
In regards to the overall plot she isn't that important. She's just there to show that not even the strongest and most confident magical girls survive. She's also there to kill Kyouko during one of the timelines.
>>139297113
Fucking idiot. I'm talking about Nagisa and Mami's relationship as it was played up inside the Labyrinth. There is no Mami taking care of a tiny witch for who knows how many years.
>>139296982
>And Urobuchi said that Hitomi was getting a bmore prominent role.
I'm both curious and terrified as to how that'll play out. Hitomi is such a non-character, but then again that's also a good thing. They can't do too much to fuck it up. They can only create.
>>139296595
>The problem is we all expect it at this point. Rebellion did the mahou shojo thing to inform us we were supposed to feel uncomfortable.
That's true. But it's also a trend that somewhat defined the series. If not Mami, then it's going to be something.
>>139297084
>scythe
Dark.
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>>139297196
Expect more Kyousuke-Hitomi-Sayaka drama.
>>139297192
according to what?
>>139283649
>new concept poster
What did I miss?
>>139297107
she literally has next up
>>139297322
According to what? According to what? Do you even hear yourself? Literally the point of the Labyrinth was that it was a world manipulated by Homura which made certain things possible which otherwise wouldn't have happened in the real world.
Then this Labyrinth broke. It nullified the false memories that were implanted in Mami's mind about Bebe.
They don't even know each other in Homucifer's world until that last scene.
>>139297301
Fuck no
>>139297363
MAMI ON THE FRONT PAGE
>>139297490
>It nullified the false memories that were implanted in Mami's mind about Bebe.
nah, she still knew about Madoka after they got out, so she presumably still had the memories she got in the Labyrinth until Homu brainwashed her again
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Those wide faces make Sayaka look like a fat SJW sometimes.
>>139297610
>tears up when seeing her crush with someone else
>expects nothing to happen
>>139297703
Are you retarded? The point is that those memories she had of Bebe. The whole backstory of the two of them meeting years ago, were completely false. There is no backstory there, just Bebe trying to take advantage of Mami's cooking skills and Mami being content with whatever attention she gets.
>>139297719
The impression I got from that scene was more about Sayaka accepting that she'll never be with Kyousuke.
>>139297301
Yeah probably. But I think it'll actually go the other way. Hitomi can't keep Kyousuke's attention either, so what if all of a sudden he starts noticing Sayaka since she's stopped trying herself. It would actually make sense.
>Swan Lake motif
MadoHomu confirmed sacrifice their physical existence and reign together in the afterlife as waifu and waifu after some heart felt tragedy.
>Three Kingdoms theme
Three way smack down between heaven, hell, and earth.
>Mami central focus
Mami will be a protagonist become the champion of megucas in the new world created after Homura decides to join Madoka (as if reconciliation wasnt fucking guaranteed) as an equal in the Law of Cycles.
>>139297810
Maybe that, too. But she's also still hurt to see them together.
>>139297719
You're misinterpreting, She was glad to greet her friends once more.
Sayaka shouldn't even be raw about that anymore when she accepted their relationship during her final moments and build a stronger bond with Kyouko inside Homura's barrier.
>>139297490
from what i seen and heard only certain aspects of the labyrinth were manipulated and bebe and mamis relationship didn't neccesarily seem to be one of them. she transformed and explained something to mami off screen but besides that she still existed outside of the labyrinth which would mean she was originally created in madoka's new universe.
it was also specified that certain people were led into homura's labyrinth but couldn't escape. i dont remember there being a part were mami realizes she never had a previous connection to bebe though.
>>139297905
Unless it's Sayaka who makes a move, I don't think Kyousuke would ever notice Sayaka. He's simply that oblivious.
>>139297719
>crush
Former crush*
>>139297930
>>139297981
Here we go again
>K: Hey Sayaka! Good morning.
>H: Good morning, Sayaka-san.
>S: (Seeing them) Oh... (looks away, with a small smile, eyebrows lifting to indicate that the smile isn't genuine) yeah.
>S (Smile drops, eyes begin to quiver and she tears up more)
>S: (looking away and wiping her eyes) Um.. Good morning.
>S: Yep. Good morning! To you both.
Please note this Yep. It is extremely important, and is there because it implies that thought was put into the following words, that it's being gauged as the "right" thing to say.
>K: Is something the matter, Sayaka?
>S: (moving around in an exaggerated manner) No, it's just...
>S: (turning away from them again) I didn't realize how happy it would make me to be able to say "good morning" to you again.
Everything about Sayaka's body language and tone in that scene heavily indicates that she is not being genuine.
>>139297910
>Mami will be a protagonist become the champion of megucas
Wasn't it actually implied at the very end of the show that everyone was dead and Homura was the last one beforeshe became a witch?
Champion or not, all of them die in the end regardless. Right?
>>139297948
Well isn't there a thing about people only start yearning for something/someone when they no longer have it? She was hawking around him constantly while he was in the hospital and likely prior to that. What if that's the actual thing that kicks his interest in?
>>139297719
>>139297301
How do people still not understand that scene?
>>139297942
She stayed around Mami because Bebe had the knowledge from outside the labyrinth. She and Sayaka were the only people who knew what was going on, so they had to prepare for when Homura figured it out and started tearing everything down.
>>139298092
In Kyousuke's case not even that helps. Remember how he didn't even bother greeting her after he was released from the hospital.
>>139298075
Why are you so obsessed with this?
You're looking to much into this when not necessary.
You're also bringing this pasta back from the current /u/ Madoka thread where there you were dubunked.
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>>139298145
Alright anon. Have you ever stopped to think, for just one minute, that it's entirely possible that while Sayaka may have given up on Kyousuke, that she still has faint feelings for him? After all, er love for Kyousuke wasn't just a mere crush, she was crazy in love. It's not crazy to think that she still feels a little bit hurt when she sees the guy she used to obsess over together with her best friend.
>>139298092
>all of them died in th end
and like the psh *teleports behind you* fashion she's known for, she probably went back in time again.
idk though...it was for sure that sayaka had died off screen since she was with madoka agai but she also came bacn with madoka right as homu became a witch so i'd say they didnt actually die, she was just being edgy in a deserted area fighting alone
>>139298228
I'm simply looking at a scene which obviously is supposed to be read as Sayaka still having some feelings for Kyousuke, whereas everyone just assumes that she was being genuine when she said she was happy to see them again.
>>139298188
>Remember how he didn't even bother greeting her after he was released from the hospital.
Yeah, you're right. What a fucking faggot. But I'm pretty sure they'll still make his character relevant, yet I'm pretty sure Sayaka's over him. Homura could technically make that change, though. For what purpose I have no idea.
>>139298269
Well that was my take away for the scene after the credits. I don't think Homura would move too far away from their city, but she was seen in what I'd describe as an absolute wasteland. And I could be a massive moron here, but I don't think there's any deserts in Japan.
>>139298356
That's because she was happy to see them.
Before the new universe was created Sayaka helped soothe Hitmoi's nightmare by playing Kyousuke's music.
Cleary she's accepted their relationship and as I said she did so in her final moments on episode 12.
>>139298337
See>>139298075
>initial reaction is shock "Oh"
>looks away and fakes a smile
>tears up and turns away completely
>O-oh Good morning!
>Yep! Good morning!
>body language implies that she's been caught in an uncomfortable situation
>starts making dramatic bodily movements to hide the fact that she's nervous
>>139298476
She'd been dead and has started adjusting to Homura's universe so of course she'd feel uncomfortable at the moment.
>>139298463
She's accepted their relationship in a world where she still retained her memories. The Sayaka in the last 20 minutes of Rebellion has none of those memories, and it can even be assumed that even in this world she made her wish to heal Kyousuke's hand, which means that her "moving on" hasn't happened in this universe.
>>139298578
Yet, despite her mind being erased she still was seen playing with Kyouko in the final shot indicating that they're still very much close and Sayaka obviously has memory of getting along well with Kyouko.
>>139283649International financial capitalists
>>139298453
>Homura could technically make that change
I'm samefagging here, but it just hit me. Homura could very likely make Kyousuke take notice of Sayaka anyways, and that would actually be within her current character paradigm. While she only really ever focused on Madoka, Homura still regarded the other megucas as friends. I really think this is what's going to happen, actually.
>>139298561
>>139298576
I'm not entirely sure whether you're genuinely retarded or just pretending to be retarded. The Sayaka that greets Hitomi and Kyousuke is the same Sayaka that ended up getting herself killed over Kyousuke. Expect something about Sayaka spiraling downwards again.
>>139298632
She does imediately lose her memories of the LoC. The only thing she remembers is that she used to be a part of a higher being and that Homura is evil.
>>139298653
True, I'm not saying that Sayaka getting over Kyousuke won't happen eventually, but she still very clearly has feelings for him.
For you
>>139298675
I don't think Homura wants Kyousuke and Sayaka to be close seeing as Kyousuke and Hitomi are still dating in her universe. Instead of that, she made it possible for Sayaka to become friends with Kyouko.
>>139298738
The only shred of evidence on Sayaka still having feelings for Kamijou you have is one moment where you believe she's bitter seeing Both him and Hitomi.
That's not very strong and that scene can be interpreted various ways.
Face it, your argument is a stretch.
Funny thing is, you'll keep bringing back this argument whenever you have a chance and people will always debunk you.
>>139298811
>I don't think Homura wants Kyousuke and Sayaka to be close seeing as Kyousuke and Hitomi are still dating in her universe. Instead of that, she made it possible for Sayaka to become friends with Kyouko.
I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination to say that Homura sympathizes more with other megucas as opposed to someone like Hitomi- who we also never see her interact with in the show or in Rebellion.
The more I think about it the more it makes sense, and it wouldn't stop there. Homura's taking everything in to her own hands. She'll fix the Kyousuke-Sayaka situation and she'll coddle Madoka and keep her safe. Like you said, she'll fan Sayaka and Kyouko's friendship.
And then she'll alter Mami's issues with her loneliness and emotional frailty. And that is what her big mistake will be. This could retroactively fix the issues I was complaining about with Mami being the focal character in the new movie, if only temporarily.
Fuck I'm writing the new content right now.
>>139298453
maybe she went tokyouko's cityto fight wraiths
they never really went into the wraith thing but here's my thoughts.
>madoka changes reality
>witches are no longer the evil ones as they are all saved now
>homura knows this of course but she's still fighting the wraiths as they are known which in actuality are a part of the secret kyubei stuff that also hasn't been divulged(demons from hell that prey on human souls)
>sayaka dies trying to be tough idk y
>homu still is searching for madoka but end up surronded by wraiths(madoka tells her goodluck in the end credits)
>she wins but goes into rage because she still hasn't heard anything but that from madoka
>fringe witches but passes out before full conversion and madoka saves her; this is where kyubei and his weird floaty eye demon technology cut in and trap her soul for "research"(really just a ploy to "incubate" her devil seed/grief seed/soul to counterbalance madokami
>her labryinth is born and madoka wonders why she can't automatically save(she can't because she wished to defeat/save any witch, wraiths arent witches and neither is kyubei), comes to earth herself from her seperate universe, brings sayaka back and bebe after they make their plan
>rebellion
>>139297942
Alright, I will regard your post >>139298145 here, which in my opinion seems to be reaching in certain aspects. I agree that she's already over Kyousuke "before" Homura created her new universe. However. right now. at this moment. Sayaka is gradually losing her memories as pointed out by >>139298914 so she will end up with no recollection of what she did in previous timelines, nor of what she did in the Labyrinth. None of those experiences will remain in her mind.
>>139298883
>is one moment where you believe she's bitter seeing Both him and Hitomi.
Bitter? No. She's not bitter, she is hurt alright, but she's not bitter. She has accepted that Kyousuke and Hitomi are dating and she is trying to be fine with it, but she still can't help herself from tearing up. See it as some sort of character growth, whatever.
>>139299076
I don't think Homura would actually mess around that much. Her goal when she rewrote the world was mainly make Madoka live a life that makes her happy. I think she understands that messing around too much with other people's emotions won't end well.
>>139299161
??>>139297942
here
this>>139298145
isnt me
>>139299266
Oops, my bad. I meant to reply to >>139298837
>>139299207
Well she's definitely one of the more rational characters, but she did take control from Madoka for Madoka's sake. And, as of the end of Rebellion, everything's going pretty well for Homura. Who's to say this success won't encourage more meddling?
>>139297196
Whose death do you think Magical Girl Hitomi wished for?
>>139299161
Sayaka losing memory would also imply she will have no memory of her healing Kamijou's arm.
You really can't claim she was "hurt" when all you have as a shred of evidence is Sayaka tearing up and body language.
You're really just repeating after yourself at this point.
You can't say anything until you have more evidence to back up your argument.
>>139298092
>Wasn't it actually implied at the very end of the show that everyone was dead and Homura was the last one before she became a witch?
No. You aren't the first to say this though. Urobuchi's actually commented on this and doesn't understand why people thought everyone was dead. People need to not read into implications that aren't there. Rebellion even confirmed they were alive Lyoko and Mami.
Is the "Sayaka is jealous of Hitomi" guy aware that, despite the pandering nature, Sayaka is lesbo/bi now? I know /a/ doesn't like giving /u/ anything, but don't waste so much time on Kyousuke when Rebellion went out of its way to show Sayaka was trying to build something with Kyoko. Fuck, they live together now.
>>139299459
>I wish... I just wish Kyousuke would fucking die
>>139299476
Did Urobuchi actually confirm they weren't dead? I don't know how he'd be confused by this. Just about every scene in the show takes place somewhere in the city. The scene right before the credits shows Homura and Kyubey at night. In the middle of the city.
And yet at the end she's in some unknown wasteland at some unknown time specifically by herself.
>>139299459
>not wishing for bountiful harvests
>>139299459
idk maybe none. she's a rich kid so i doubt she had anything she really really wanted.
>>139299758
She's rocking a scythe in that image, anon. I think that's indicative of something unwell.
>depressed Kyousuke won't pay her attention and is obviously dodging her.
>"I wish Junko never told Madoka about ammonia and bleach."
She's a walking paradox. With a scythe.And Madoka's dead.
>>139299463
>Sayaka losing memory would also imply she will have no memory of her healing Kamijou's arm
Assuming that Sayaka is still a magical girl, it is also save to assume that she made her wish for Kyousuke's arm to heal, so yes, inside this universe, Sayaka still has her memories of healing Kyousuke's arm.
>You really can't claim she was "hurt" when all you have as a shred of evidence is Sayaka tearing up and body language
Judging from her body language, the way she talks (such as stuttering), implies that she isn't happy at all. She's feeling hurt and nervous, and she's trying to hide it.
I admit that I don't have 100% evidence, but to me, this seems more believable than Sayaka suddenly being over Kyousuke in a world where she's still supposed to have feelings for him.
>>139299470
>Thank goodness your opinion is literally worthless. As all opinions are.
Ah goodness, must I feel threatened now?
>It's not reaching just because you say so.
It's reaching because it's overanalyzing things.
> Which also means she still has most of her memories during that scene with Hitomi and Kyousuke
And you have no evidence of what memories she has retained during that moment. There is no way to prove that she still has her memories of her having gotten over him. And even if she did, fact remains that she will forget all about it.
>She didn't cry the first time she saw Kyousuke and Hitomi together
And I think you didn't watch the last episode, because she was tearing up there.
>>139299594
I think it's possible that she's bi. However, that's besides the point. The point is that she still has feelings for Kyousuke when she sees him again. And by the way, all of those things that she did together with Kyouko have been forgotten about/will be forgotten about.
>>139299877
maybe she wished to end all things forbidden
she has a scythe because she's a wicked bitch. remem er she was perfectly fine easing in on sayaka's crush even though sayaka was with him everyday after school comforting him and his arm while she just went off doing whatever. she's the worst character morally now that i think about it, even going as far as giving sayaka a time limit..baka
>>139294939
>>139295041
All of the characters other than Homura have overstayed their welcome to be honest. And even she is being stretched thin at this point.
Maybe they could eke some more out of Madoka by tearing down her martyr complex.
>>139300537
>Maybe they could eke some more out of Madoka
plz no, she was always one dimensional. Either naive to the point of annoyance or saccharine sweet Mahou Shoujo Jesus..
The only characters that ever had development were Sayaka, Kyoko and Homura, and all of Homu's development in the series was fucked up to make Rebellion watchable.
that leaves Sayaka, who is pretty much played the hell out, and Kyoko, whose only development went from "evil objectivist" to "generally good lesbian rogue" over the course of 2 episodes and a monologue
>>139299889
>The point is that she still has feelings for Kyousuke when she sees him again. And by the way, all of those things that she did together with Kyouko have been forgotten about/will be forgotten about.
Your head canon is wrong.
>>139300909
What's even the point of arguing anymore? Sayaka is already confirmed to be lesbo/bi anyway
>>139299877
wait a minute...replied to this already but, what if she has a scythe because she agrees with kyubei and wants to help him? she's been left out of the "in the know" crowd this whole time so she will struggle with who to trust
>>139300909
Sayaka's even cuter when she openly smiles.
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>>139301134
Kyouko's fang is cute
>>139299889
>Judging from her body language, the way she talks (such as stuttering), implies that she isn't happy at all. She's feeling hurt and nervous, and she's trying to hide it.
It could also be interpreted the exact opposite way. She could be choked up because she was suddenly hit by a slice of everyday happiness that she never expected to get back, and she's trying not to show just how much it affected her.
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>>139301134
Sayaka's smiles are made of justice miracles.
>>139300981
No, I agree. Some anons just want to do everything they can to deny the yuri. It's about as destructive as tripfags.
>>139301318
Madoka's face buried in Homura's pussy confirmed in concept movie.
>>139301318
inb4 600 posts of people unironically responding to homuhater
>>139300779
>plz no, she was always one dimensional. Either naive to the point of annoyance or saccharine sweet Mahou Shoujo Jesus..
That's why I specified something that would take her outside of those boxes.
>Homu's development
Pardon? Homu never developed in the series. She just got worse and worse, and Rebellion rode that train straight to hell. It was a good run, but the ride is over.
>Sayaka and Kyouko
Like I said, they've overstayed their welcome. They were acceptable for a 12-episode series, but not everything that came after.
My opinion is that they should have just ended Rebellion with Homu unambiguously killing herself or Madokami accepting her into eternal yuriheaven. Making another fucking movie is just ridiculous.
>>139301346
I'm not denying the yuri you retard. I literally just admitted that the yuri is there. It's just that that scene is a clear indication that Sayaka has feelings for Kyousuke.
>>139301318
You're dipshit who shitposts to no end and gets away with it.
>>139301318
>killing homu
things you want but don't really want
>killing QBAY
do want
>>139301344
Sayaka-chan is truly a miracle of the universe.
>>139301493
>wah! I wanna taste a dick!
>>139301525
>Sayaka would taste dick AND pussy
Sayaka truly has superior taste
>>139301441
>My opinion is that they should have just ended Rebellion with Homu unambiguously killing herself or Madokami accepting her into eternal yuriheaven
Boring, there would be no point to Rebellion existing in the first place then. Homura eventually dying and going to tea and keki valhalla was a forgone conclusion after episode 12, why make a movie just to belabor the point?
Rebellion subverted that expectation by introducing an interesting adversarial element in Madoka and Homura's relationship, but more importantly it left the conclusion of that conflict open. Of course they need another movie.
>>139301441
>Homu never developed in the series
Nah, she had a pretty good turn from edgy and mysterious outsider to a time traveler that would ride out multiple apocalypses for Madoka pussy.
>Making another fucking movie is just ridiculous.
nigga you know how much money it will make them?
We'll be lucky if they don't start spinning off alternate timeline/universe series and prequels. Lord knows there's enough manga to give them a start.
>>139301493
Yes
>>139301525
Sayakachan is a pure maiden in love
>>139301525
perfect, you win!
>>139301616
I will love you Sayaka-chan!
>>139301616
Sayaka-chan is very cute!
>>139301574
Homu offing herself wouldn't be boring. It would have been the perfect capstone to her character's story. She was the biggest threat of all to Madoka's happiness.
>more importantly it left the conclusion of that conflict open
And even more importantly, that shit is incredibly boring and stretching the story to the point of tearing. It has completely lost sight of the original series.
>>139301593
>Nah, she had a pretty good turn from edgy and mysterious outsider to a time traveler that would ride out multiple apocalypses for Madoka pussy.
And in that sense, her characterization in Rebellion continues right along those lines to their natural conclusion.
>We'll be lucky if they don't start spinning off alternate timeline/universe series and prequels.
pls no
>>139296666
>Homura
>Satanic trips
Nice sempai
>wants to discuss
>still devolves into /c/ and ERP posting
I wish this was a bannable offense.
>>139301896
>that shit is incredibly boring and stretching the story to the point of tearing
I think it's interesting so there
>>139301941
There is still some discussion.
>>139301946
>having an opinion I disagree with
>>139301896
>right along those lines to their natural conclusion.
nah, in ep 12 and early-mid Rebellion she's all about how Madoka's sacrifice is holy and just the greatest thing
at the end she does all she can to undo it just because the cheese has finally slid off her cracker, or whatever
>>139301974
plenty infact. just 1-2 sayaka shitposters now and a homu
Would you lick Sayaka's armpits because I would.
>>139302005
she did it for love not cheese. get that shit straight anon
>>139302005
>in ep 12 she's all about how Madoka's sacrifice is holy and just the greatest thing
bruh, Homu was NOT happy about Madoka's decision in ep12. She was pretty vocal about it being bullshit and unfair.
>>139302132
this
>>139302091
>no replies
Phew. Bunch of fags in here.
>>139302122
love is not an excuse to tear your loved ones down from the heavens and trap them in a weirdass puppet world after they save the physical representation of your soul from contamination at the hands of magical aliens
>>139302091
they look smooth.
I wonder what they would taste like
>>139301896
>Homu offing herself wouldn't be boring. It would have been the perfect capstone to her character's story. She was the biggest threat of all to Madoka's happiness.
What the hell are you talking about? Homura is the surviving hope that remembers Madoka and continues the fight, claiming she's a threat and should go die is the biggest BS insult. Are you an incubator?
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Has there ever been a girl in anime this handsome?
>>139302291
Yes it is
>>139302323
Like justice and salty water
>>139302414
Sayaka has nothing to do with justice. It would taste like NTR, whatever that tastes like.
Is it Sayaka-chan's turn?
>>139302450
Rude.
>everything Homura has done was to protect Madoka physically and emotionally
>Rebellion ultimately leads to Madoka swearing to fight Homura
>Homura realizes that everything she's done up to this point has been completely in vain, and that she has actually become the biggest threat to Madoka's happiness
>her last shred of sanity summons the power to put her gun to her own head
>still smiling like a psycho as tears start to roll down her cheeks
>pulls the trigger
>cut to black with a gunshot and the sound of her soulgem shattering
>Komm Susser Todd starts playing as the credits begin to roll
Literally would have been a perfect ending.
>>139302500
Yes!
>>139302500
Yes it is, Apple-chan.
>>139302132
Homura's reaction in Ep 12 was like Simon's at the end of TTGL. It completely crushed her inside. And then to be the only one able to remember her besides a little boy? And to have even Kyubey be mildly incredulous upon hearing the story? I think there are a lot of people who, in the same situation, would have preferred to just die right there.
I mean, as far as Homura is concerned, she's completely failed to do what she set out to accomplish, even after spending more than a decade rewriting the past, being driven slowly insane. Madoka's not only not here on her earthly realm, every last trace of her previous existence has been scrubbed away.
l think the grace we see of Homura in that episode is really her straining to hold herself together, because otherwise, she would have just completely fallen apart. And who of us would have blamed her?
>>139302518
would of been gay af
>>139302518
>Madoka goes crazy as she realizes what's happened
>stops doing her cycles thing
>witches start being a thing again
I hated how sweet the ending was to the series
an ending like that might make it a little better
Sayaka-chan is made for _______
>>139302560
Exactly. Her going completely off the deep end in Rebellion was a fine continuation and conclusion of her character.
You image dumpers hit limit in your previous thread and now you're invading this one.
>>139302605
inducing vomiting
>>139302605
justice!
>>139302605
Kyouko, Kyouko's baka
Remiinder that literally everyone hates Homura.
Madoka doesn't love her. It's literal canon.
![[gg]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_08_[C862183C].mkv_snapshot_21.52_[2011.02.26_12.23.44].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Id4iCKU.jpg "[gg]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_08_[C862183C].mkv_snapshot_21.52_[2011.02.26_12.23.44].jpg")
>>139302501
I'm just saying the truth, Sayaka has very low justice content.
>>139302605
Kyouko-chan!
>>139302602
how can a god go insane?
>>139302662
She was made for Kyousuke, but you say she was made for Kyouko. That means she wasn't made for the Kyou's, but rather to fight against evil.
>>139302613
Yeah. The people who claim that Homura was out of character in Rebellion or that it was some big grim dark twist are dumb. They are just too emotionally involved in having a "good" ending. Equally dumb are the people who think Madoka was perfectly content with her end as well. Rebellion was all telegraphed in episode 12, I don't know why people have such difficulty with it.
>>139302746
idk, how do you pull one down and brainwash it?
rules seem pretty fast and loose
>>139302773
Just saying she belongs with Kyouko, the fuck are you on?
>>139302773
Apple-chan is a hontouni baka.
>>139302839
Sure is
>>139302518
>Implying Homura is not Madoka's happiness.
>>139302246
I'm sorry, I was busy typing that last response.
>>139302613
Homura's story kinda reminds me of Anakin's from the Star Wars prequel trilogy. She's gifted with immense power: The power to control time itself. No other Meguca has the ability to reverse death itself. What greater evil can humans triumph over than that of mortality?
Yet it a tenant of Buddhism that attachment leads to anger, hatred, despair, and most of all, suffering. Homura's attachment to Madoka, while seemingly sweet and pure, is actually the thing that sets Homura up for her descent into evil. She become so obsessed with protecting that which she holds dear, that she slowly becomes willing to do anything, even hurt Madoka herself, to protect her possession of her.
Well that was it for today. Thanks y'all for participating. And as always, keep up the Sayaka-chan love!
>>139302602
I wouldn't mind a super saccharine ending, because the girls went through so much suffering that they earned the right to live happily ever after.
I just dislike how the endings have been so half-assed because they insisted on having ambiguous sequel bait.
If nothing else, the original series was a huge spectacle. It was something that people didn't expect, and kept people talking. By all rights it should have gone out with a bang.
>>139302620
>posts on image board
>doesn't want images to be posted
>>139302620
The Madoka fandom on /a/ deserves its circlejerk with all its tripfags and ack and image dumpers.
>>139302910
She isn't. Homura is always detrimental to Madoka's happiness. Madoka never loved her.
>muh yuri fanfiction
>>139303124
tripfags deserve only death
>>139302807
it was a conflict that made sense though. homura wasn't a witch so madoka couldn't just automatically 1 shot her, and at thesame time, madokas wish was for all wwitches wishes to come true, since homura was previously a witch, her wish came true, protecting madoka by her own means..the only way for that to happen was for homu to become powerful somehow. so she became a demon. it's kind of like a paradox
>>139302835
JUSTICE!
>>139302839
>>139302871
Hai!
>>139303203
Just like Homura.
>>139302910
But it's not. Homura THINKS she is, but she has been blinded to the fact that, whatever Madoka's feelings for her are, she knows her obligation to all humanity is much greater. That's why Madoka says on several occasions near the end that she knows all the people who rely on her, who have a part of their lives wrapped up within her, but she *still* must fufill her destiny, not only for their sake, but for everyone's sake. That is the essence of sacrifice that defines a true Meguca.
Homura on the other hand has lost sight of that, to the point that she seeks to use her power purely for selfish reasons. That is truly the genesis of evil. The power of a Meguca, like all power, often corrupts its users. Homura has now reached the point of, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Pic quote related.
>>139283649
Why is Madokami somade of sex
>>139302999
>I wouldn't mind a super saccharine ending, because the girls went through so much suffering that they earned the right to live happily ever after.
I wouldn't want something ridiculous, but if there is going to be a conclusion, I'dvery much agree that they've earned themselves an ending that they can definitely be happy with. I feel like anyone wishing for a painful conclusion on a handful of gay middle schoolers is a little off in the head.
>>139303707
Can we get a fucking SOL anime already?
>>139303675
>even though Madoka sacrificed herself to keep Magical Girls from becoming witches, we get to watch Homura fall apart and become evil anyways
not awful I guess
>>139303860
The new project will start out that way, I guarantee it. And it will feature a lot of Akuma Homura bullying.
>>139303675
>Saving you was the most best thing I've ever done E10
>After all this time, you were my very best friend E12
>I know I probably can't help, but I wish you'd open up to me. Rebellion
>I'd never want to make someone as strong as you cry. Rebellion
>No matter what happens, Homura-chan is Homura-chan. And I'd never abandon you. Rebellion
>How could I forget Homura? From now on, we'll be together forever. Rebellion
Was it not clear to you, retard? The concept movie only seems to double down on that.
>best song in the OST is just the theme song, played for 2 minutes while a character dances on a DDR machine in an arcade
I don't understand
