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In 2015 apparently the top grossing anime related franchise for media was....Love Live. It even beat out One Piece. After that there's several steep drops to Attack on Titan, several Deadly Sins, then Kingdom before leveling off at iDOLM@STER.

#1 Overall: Love Live School Idol Project (6.82 billion yen)
#1 Music: Love Live School Idol Project
#1 Comic: One Piece (6.75 billion yen
#1 Game: The iDOLM@STER (4.83 billion yen)
#1 Light Novel: Sword Art Online (2.18 billion yen)
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Not really that surprising to be honest
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>kingdom
anime remake when
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Obligatory

Of course now we're stuck in the great age of idol anime as a result. Also the one thing I noticed that all those franchises have in common is they are all heavily affiliated with Bandai Namco group at this point in time in terms of media be it music or games or both. Sword Art Online actually makes the healthiest chunk of it's annual franchise revenue through games sales like Lost Song, but it started as a light novel series which is why it's listed under that heading.
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Love Live is Love. Love Live is Live.
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>>139244103
Now you now why it's important that manga/LN sells for another season of anime. Sales of manga/LN is all that is important,not bd/dvd. Sales of One piece manga brings more money than 100k per volume anime
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>>139244103
Love Live shit is fucking everywhere over here. Every goddamned convenience store. Every goddamned multimedia store. Every goddamned shopping mall.

Spergs like their idols.
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>>139244103
Everyone saw it coming.
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Who cares? It's idol garbage so it's automatically shit.
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>>139244103

>beating One Piece

always something
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>>139244103
1. Love Live
2. One Piece
3. Shingeki no Kyojin
4. Nanatsu no Taizai
5. Kingdom
6. THE IDOLM@STER
7. Gundam
8. Assassination Classrom
9. Haikyuu
10. Tokyo Ghoul
11. Fate Series
12. Youkai Watch
13. Naruto
14. Prison School
15. Gintama
16. KanColle
17. UtaPri
18. Kuroko no Basuke
19. One Punch Man
20. Yowamushi Pedal
21. Kekkai Sensen
22. Sword Art Online
23. Owari no Seraph
24. Shokugeki no Souma
25. Orange
26. Fairy Tail
27. Conan
28. The Fast and the Furious (?)
29. Terraformars
30. Magi
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>>139244763
I'm guessing most of them are manga since pretty much every anime adaptation from 8 to 30 didn't really sell that well aside from 3 or 4.
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>>139244846
Yeah the only "anime" from the list is Gundam because of Origin.
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>>139244763
>Shounen anime doesn't sell
>Shounen manga only sells
And people say anime isn't advertisement for manga.
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>>139244846
>anime adaptation from 8 to 30 didn't really sell that well
You forgot 2,4 and 5
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>>139244103
Idols rules supreme, what a time to be alive.
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>>139244486
LL is successful primarily because it has mainstream appeal. Spergs also loved Im@s but that is nowhere near as successful due to its incessant otaku pandering.
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>>139245182
Females and fujos buy so many idol stuff
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>>139245385
I honestly feel like LL is something that could air be a Disney Channel live action series, at least season 1. They did a great job of making it be as mainstream as possible.
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>>139244763
I'm surprised to see Kekkai Sensen on there, I didn't think it was that popular.
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>>139244877
There were a bunch of Gundam series last year but The Origin was probably the biggest chunk of it.
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>>139244588
This is because One Piece animation is shit after a certain point. It's a miracle it took this long for something to beat it.
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>>139244486

Japan loves it's plucky nubile idols
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>>139245804

feel the pain
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>No Bakeshit

Is this the end of SHAFT?
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>>139245875
I'm really happy that something finally beat out the One Piece anime. I'm hoping it drops below attack on titan next year as well, so that whoever's in charge of that their animation team is forced to put in effort instead of believing they can just coast by forever on the one piece name, destroying its anime adaptation as they have been consistently for years.
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>>139245469

The fanart might be fap bait but it's extremely family friendly as an actual franchise. Sunrise gets labelled as an oldfag studio but IMO they like making their franchises accessible to all audiences even if it doesn't always work out or if it deals with subjects like war and peace with a little brutality ala Gundam. Their stuff still can make it on daytime TV unlike a lot of things coming out of the industry these days. What gets me is that before Love Live people said they couldn't handle moe and would always be a robot studio and now they're laughing. Honestly last studio I would ever have predicted to have the biggest hit ostensibly moe franchise of the decade
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Someone nuke japan again
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>>139246087
People tend to forget that Sunrise is basically 12 semi-separate studios under the same label. There's always been a lot of variety in what they do.
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>Love Live beating One Piece
>Gundam the only anime on the list
>Both have large amounts of hidden sales revenue that Oricon won't track

No wonder Sunrise has barely done any work lately, they don't have to.
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>>139244103
the movie made bank
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>>139246308
>That image

Fucking triggered, I wish all fucking idolfags could just die. Goddamed cancer.
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>>139246394
Love Live was better than most of the shows that aired over the last three years.
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>>139246308
Holy fuck
I'm socially awkward but this kind of shit is so cringy
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>>139244846
You should assume manga if they are manga titles, regardless of anime sales' success, for 99%, the manga would always bring a bigger profit.
1% is if they borrow the name to tell a completely different story, or if the artwork suck so much that no one wants to buy the original source.
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>>139246458
What does that have to do with my hate towards rabbid and autistic idolfags?
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Why aren't Sunrise milking it more? You barely hear anything about LL any more.
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>>139244103

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-07-09/madoka-magica-anime-earns-over-40-billion-yen-in-goods

Madoka at it's peak made 40 billion yen over 2 years.

That's over 20 billion per year. Over 3 times more than One Piece.

Jesus.
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>>139246529
because you live under a rock
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>>139246529
They will, don't worry. They've been milking Gundam for close to 40 years.
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>>139244846

90% of profits for every big franchise are merchandise.
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>>139246529

LL mecha anime when?
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>>139244763
>Fate outside top10
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Post more rabu raibus.
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>>139244103
AoT needs to die completely.
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>>139246308
Studio 8 has Accel World movie and possibly working on new Mai Hime series in the process.

I wouldn't call them lazy, would just call'em stagnant.
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>>139244486
It helps that it also appeals to girls. Everyone can like cute 2D girls.
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>>139244103
>>139244763

Fujoshit sells they said. Yuri don't sell they said.
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>>139246562

That's overall revenue including all goods, the chart from this thread is strictly media which means anime, games, comics, music and light novels. As >>139246308 stated a lot of franchises have hidden revenue that Oricon won't track. For example it says Gundam here makes 4.6 billion yen but that's just in terms of media revenue. Overall including model kits and what not Bandai Namco estimated it made them about 78 billion yen in 2015 as a character brand. Unfortunately most companies never release there overall sales revenue charts to the public unless it's something really significant so we'll never know what most of these franchises actually make in total.

http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/library/pdf/en_20160209_1Result.pdf

Another example if you look here is that One Piece made them 23 billion yen or roughly somewhere in the area of $200 million USD.
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>>139246677
>LL mecha anime when?
Idolmaster Xenoglossia that was the proto-type LoveLive

If you want to add mecha then it would be Mai Hime
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>>139246964
Only fujoshit believe only fujoshit can sell a show. Both waifus and landwhaleshit flop a lot but also succeed.
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>>139244103
>several Deadly Sins,
This is actually a popular show? What the fuck
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>>139244763
>>29. Terraformars
That makes me kind of happy. /a/ doesn't talk about it that much anymore but I'm glad it's still alive in japan
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>>139244763
>The Fast and the Furious
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>>139247241
Manga is very popular in japan, anon who lives under a rock.
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>>139246793
Fate only had Grand Order last year, didn't they? Is amazing that they got there with only a mogabe (and only for 4 months). 2016 and 2017 is when things are going to explode for them.
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>>139247361

UBW
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>>139246964
rabu raivu isn't yuri though
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>>139247415
It was last year? It already feels old.
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>>139247428
Has yuri undertones which sells better than actual yuri though
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>>139247428

Music videos are yuri. Manga is yuri. Game is ultra yuri.
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>>139246458
We've been over Japan's lack of taste many times before.

Idolshit is killing anime, and idolshitters are bascially the anime version of bronies.
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>>139246880
Idolshit needs to die completely.
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Anime is dead
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>>139247618

LNshit is killing anime
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>>139246880
Never. Season 2 is coming.
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Are there any doujins of Honoka getting brutally beaten with a blunt instrument?
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>>139245385

LL have likeable characters. Im@s, everyone is boring aside from Miki Miki.
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Does pokemon not count in these lists?
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>>139247672
SNK is on a decline and the S2 will sell far less than S1 as they always do.
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>>139247672
>Season 2 is coming.

Maybe in a few centuries.
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Is the anime even good? From what little ive seen it looks like nothing.
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>>139247958
I've watched the first season and want these 4 hours of my life back

I'll admit that it does have one or two good songs though
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>>139247958
No. It's shit and for children. The anime equivalent of MLP.
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>>139244763
fuck yeah kekkaisen got that high up
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>>139247742
>SNK is on a decline
Not in term of manga sale per volume.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-12-01/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-volume/2013
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-29/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-volume-2015/.95915

Of course the total of manga sold is in decline because the anime boost ended, but the new volumes still sell as much as the previous volumes when SnK was at the peak of its popularity.

>S2 will sell far less than S1 as they always do.
Probably, that's the fate of almost all S2.
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>>139247958

S1 is okay. S2 is great.
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>>139248072
>>139248157
Sasuga nippon taste folded over 1000 times.
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>>139247958
Love Live?
Good porn? Yes.
Cute girls? Yes.
Good characters? eh, see above.
Good music? Can't complain.
Is the story good/is it worth watching? Absolutely not. Boring as fuck story that you have seen a hundred times before.

Kind of bothered that idols sell so much.
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2015 was a bad year for SnK with the terrible live action movie and the shitty middle school spin-off.
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>>139248339
Aside from Idolmaster and LL is this really a story told often? I thought they dominated it
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>>139244471
This doesn't take into account almost none of the merchandise sales, one piece should easily be near 20 billion yen and should double or triple it's sales with the movie this year.
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>>139244103
Kingdom greatness.
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>>139244763
>The Fast and the Furious is WAIRUDO SUPIIDO

Incredible
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>>139248157
>and for children
What if I like pic related, and the only idolshow I watch. How would it compare?
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>>139244763
Gross.
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>>139248721
Shit taste in anime.
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>>139246677
new Mai Hime series when?
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>>139248407
Maybe not exactly, but at its base it's a very unoriginal story.

Underdog story.
High school setting.
School is shutting down.
Let's do X to save the school.
Insert nine characters with contrasting moe archetype personalities.
The story is very predictable from here on. Now imagine typical scenarios for this type of show, pretty much everything you come up with will happen.
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>>139249098
The story was shit and predictable. They get you with the girls appeal. S1 in particular was so bad it took me a year to want anything to do with this franchise. I`m wota trash now though. S2 was fairly decent and the movie had a great farewell song, so I guess all is forgiven.
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>SAO BTFO Pornogatari, Mahouka, and Raildex.

Absolutely based.
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>>139244763
>no Pornogatari
Nips don't have shit taste for once
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>>139244763
>3 Bandai IPs in the TOP10
Jesus
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>>139247696
No but there's a yuri yandere doujin where she gets stabbed.
First page on sadpanda right now.
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ITT homosexuals bum mad no one wants to buy their "man"ime
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>>139247241

Manga is, not sure about the show but it got pretty good ratings.
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I really should watch the second season of Love Live.
The first season was okay, had no real complaints.
I love Nico
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I wish they'd keep milking LL. With the original girls.
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>>139244763
How the fuck is monogatari not on there? The shows always reach top sales whenever it airs.
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>>139253925
50k BDs are less than 1M of manga volumes.
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>>139247361

This doesn't track Mobage sales. It's most likely from the game rerelease and assorted manga + the anime. Yes Fate Grand Order makes solid money but I think people are vastly over-blowing it because of that stupid million a day thing that caught on and just not understanding what exactly this list is about at all. I wonder if Think Gaming knows anime fans think they're that signficant now.
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>>139254069
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Evangelion isn't on the list.
Did it not sell for shit, or isn't it qualified?
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>>139253925

Cause you don't understand how this shit works
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>>139244270
when it ends with him marrying Kyou Kai maybe
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>>139253925
Because this is only media sales.
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>>139253925
>Caring about dying Pornogatari
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I get the appeal of LL, but I couldn't really get into it. The character designs for the faces are too similar, and the music really sucks.

Glad to see iM@S still hanging in there.
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>>139249431
>>139251309
>>139254584
Could this samefaggotry be any more obvious?
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>>139254965
IM@S will stay there for longer than Love Live, as those jews are replacing the characters for some new girls nobody cares about yet.
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>>139255070

I feel like iM@S is for the more hardcore in terms of fans because of the 200+ idols and knowing that much about fictional idols is crazy.
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>>139255013
>Thinking this
Kill yourself
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>>139255013
Monogatari is shit. Off to lebbit with you.
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>>139244763
>THE IDOLM@STER
>Love Live
how long will it take before japan gets over their idol fetish
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>>139246087
>What gets me is that before Love Live people said they couldn't handle moe and would always be a robot studio

Well Studio 8 was known for being the moe studio, since they made shows like Mai HiME.
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Why do people hate on Love Live? i enjoyed the show, read the manga and play both JP/ENG version of the show. it is pretty good.

>Nico best girl btw
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>>139256330
>game not show*

my b
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>>139255879

iM@S Platinum Stars on PS4. We next gen now. Million Live anime probably some time soon too. iM@S about to take over again.

https://youtu.be/FsujwBXwWPU
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>>139247705
No, Love Live is the fucking same shit. If you think that there's any actual character in Love Live besides Niko and Honoka then you're delusional. Everyone else is just filler with a gimmick.
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these stats always amaze me just how much more popular normalfag shit is compared to late night animes.
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>>139249431

SAO has things like games and light novels that actually make money for the franchise. Lost Song alone did like 400,000 copies worldwide and 215,000 of that in Japan in 2015 alone at a price of about anywhere between $60-100 depending on which version you got. That's anywhere between 1.3 and 2.1 billion yen for the Japanese version meaning at this point Bandai Namco is carrying the majority of SAO's media sales (anywhere between 60-90%), not Dengeki or Aniplex. Goddamn they're fucking quietly brilliant at this while people are focused almost exclusively on BD sales.
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>>139256942
>bandai namco yet again
Make it stop
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>>139246949
It does? Is that specific to japan? I personally didn't care for it and that's coming from a person who loved K-ON, it was recommended to me by a male friend who normally has decent taste so I picked it up. I don't think there was anything I did like about the show, the characters were boring and some even annoying, the songs weren't that great (lyrics and music wise) and the CGI dancing ugh.
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>>139244763
im happy gin is top 30
too bad it is ending soon.
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>>139255879
when guys finally get over their girl fetish
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>>139255936
>since they made shows like Mai HiME.

Mai HiME deserve more credit and Xenoglossia as well.

We can still believe Studio 8 focus on other projects like Mai HiME
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>>139256996

I just checked and for virtually every single one of those top media franchises Bandai Namco made a game for it in 2015 that did well to extremely well. I can say for certain they did not make the Attack on Titan game PS4 game which went to Koei Tecmo (they did make the 3DS one though), but One Piece, Seven Deadly Sins, Gundam, iDOLM@STER, Haikyuu, Naruto, Yokai Watch, Love Live, Tokyo Ghoul, SAO, Shokugeki no Souma, Owari no Seraph, Fairy Tail, Magi, Yowamushi Pedal, Kuroke no Basket they either outright own the original IP, co-own via the anime license or managed to get the video game rights too. One Punch Man is also inevitable as well, particularly since they own the anime rights to it and it's going to do extremely well both inside and outside of Japan. There's also Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 coming out this summer where the first game was a million seller greatest hit that would have single handedly put the franchise on here had the bulk of it's sales not come from outside of Japan.
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>>139246677

Macross Delta is the next closest thing. Unsurprisingly also Bandai/Lantis
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>>139246811

Go to /vg/ if you want to fap to school idols
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>>139247319

Most be some kind of listing mistake
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>>139254119

Only media sales in this list not merch. The latest BD re-release must have not been enough to get it on here.
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>>139244103
Too bad /a/ no longer discusses Kingdom. I miss the daily chapter threads.
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>>139244763

Are most people on /a/ even old enough to remember Fast and Furious?
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>>139258165
>remember
Do you think it's over?
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>>139258165
>2001
Holy shit has it really been this long?
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>>139257784
>Macross Delta is the next closest thing
Symphogear is the future, Delta is going to fail.
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>>139258165
2002 feels like yesterday bro
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>>139258256
I only remember the first one and Weeb Drift. How many were there so far?

>>139258307
>>139258404

See that's like half the user base right there with those restrictions. Who the fuck watches that shit when you're 4 years old or something?
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>>139255679
Let's do a run-down on Monogatari

The animation? Decent, better until Second Season.
The characters? At least interesting.
The plot? Better written than most.
The dialogue? Great
The music? Decent
The LN's? Well-done and well worth the wait.

The LN's are not stereotypical to any genre. I can't think of an analogous series.
The show does a decent job with what it has.

It's only being hurt by the wait.
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>>139257153
Same. Gintama will be missed.

The manga is gonna end late this year, but the anime will probably end in Spring 2017.
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>>139245991
Kizu sold a fuck ton of tickets. SHAFTmonogatari is far from dead
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>>139258612
I was actually about 10 but still a long time ago.
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>>139258734
>>139258859

Does Monogatari have the most defensive fanbase ever on /a/? I really think so. Even Fatefags no how to roll with the punches once in a while.
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>>139258953
>Even Fatefags no how to roll with the punches once in a while.
1% of the time. Most probably they'll just spam bait pictures whenever you disagree with them.
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>>139244763
>Prison School that high

Thank goodness. Glad it's finally getting the sales that it deserves.
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>>139257995

If it isn't some fringe wank bait thing probably being pushed by Aniplex or Nitroplus or both even it seems like /a/ and most of the Western community that posts on the internet doesn't care much anymore. That's why I always like charts like these because they are kind of a wakeup call. I mean people are legitimately shocked that stuff like Madoka and Monogatari Series are not on there because they've clearly been living under a fucking rock since 2011 and not paying any sort of attention to what's actually been going on and catching on in Japan lately. Like for all the shit talking /a/ does about shounen and mainstream fans the media sales list kind of speaks for itself as to how late night anime BD sales are far from everything. Just today even Aniplex execs said they figure the BD market is dying out and yet I bet we still get stalker shitposting threads and mass dick waving for next season.
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>>139259168
The way people still keep pushing Madoka as the biggest franchise ever still baffles me.
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>>139259168
So what happens if the BD market does die out? Everyone's stuck with shitty 720p? That's pretty scary the way I see it.
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>>139257995
The updates aren't regular. That's what's killing Kingdom. At least in english forums.
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>>139257995
be the change you wanna see anon
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>>139258953
Some Monogatari fags actually try to make a decent response on the opinion collection board that is /a/.

That's where they go wrong.
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>>139259168
Except the OP's ranking does not take into account overall "popularity" or overall "sales".

It's a proxy of a proxy at best.
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>>139258953
I wouldn't mind Monogatari fanboys if they would stop pretending it's some revolutionary work of art. They're trying to pass a karaoke singer off as Pavarotti.
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>>139259436
It's once a week, give or take one or two days. What's the big deal? I don't remember TF skipping a week.

>>139259452
I'm on my shitty phone.
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>>139258859

The movie kind of got overshadowed by GuP Der Film big time though both at the box office and seemingly inevitably in the home video market too. I mean fuck just as an example of it again the GuP movie debuted at #1, #2, #5 and #7 overall and lasted 2 solid weeks at #1 and #2 with it's core BD packages. The Kizumonogatari movie debuted at #23, #35, #74 and #833 overall and the core BD packages went up to #1 and #2 the next day with the Amazon discount applied and then couldn't even last 3 fucking days before getting bumped off to #3 and #4. It's clearly died down a lot and even last season showed that with Osomatsu. You can say oh still sells a lot of discs, but then clearly the chart shows that's far from everything.
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>>139258953
>Does Monogatari have the most defensive fanbase ever on /a/?
Yes. They weren't this bad in 08. Probably transplants from MAL and Reddit.

They worship it.
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>>139259624
>What's the big deal?
Kingdom's random spike of popularity was because of the updates.
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>>139246964
What the hell on that list was yuri?
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>>139259832
Love Live.
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>>139259885
>implying
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>>139259806
I guess, but Helck still gets weekly threads, Kingdom doesn't. Is it simply because TF don't post on /a/?
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>>139259314

Like I said they seem stuck in 2011 when things like Fate/Zero, Monogatari and Madoka completely ruled the roost for sure. It's not that simple any more. All those franchises aside from Madoka (which has since lost most of it's media sales records to Love Live) clearly still have legs but the current community making them seem like the absolute biggest things ever that just completely overshadow everything else and that Shaft is rolling in money while everyone else is living in squalor is indeed quite baffling. So prevalent is this idea that even I sometimes feel convinced of it because if you see something repeated often enough you start to think of it as just plain true. Kind of like the Fate/GO makes a million dollars every single day thing.
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>>139259940
You really need a hobby.
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>>139259932
Probably.
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>>139244103
>6.82 billion yen
So, $60 million in revenue for Love Live, about as big as Rocket League is.
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>>139260578
I thought Rocket League was just a meme game
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>>139259617
What series is analogous to Monogatari?

I'm seriously curious.
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>>139259719
t. Newfag
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>>139259940
In my opinion, most Monogatari fans have not
>making them seem like the absolute biggest things ever that just completely overshadow everything else

There's actually been a number of critics in the threads since second season. Most agree its declined a little since then, but is still overall a good show. Hence why we still post about it with more than just waifu threads.
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>>139244103
You're lying OP. AOT sold more.
http://goboiano.com/list/3881-these-japanese-franchises-made-the-most-money-in-2015
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>>139260826
Quite defensive.
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>>139261712
OP's numbers are right there, and your source is an English clickbait site that references Oricon but has a dead link.
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>>139260695
no its pretty fun
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>>139261712
Nice bait
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>>139261758
Bake's subs came out in late 2009. The LN was barely discussed here before that.

You're most likely a newfag.
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>>139262101
How does that disprove anything I said, defensive-kun?

All this means is that your fanbase is literal cancer.
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