What were they thinking?
Money.
Money.
Yen
>2.22
Great movie, 10/10 made me believe Rebuild wasn't a rehash
>3.33
Horrible flick, 3/10 killed all hope for Rebuild ever being more than
>money
>>139201375
Evangelion: 2.0 was ok
>>139201448
>>2.22
>Great movie
It's a good standalone action flick, but it's a 0/10 "Evangelion" movie.
>>139201588
Rationale?
Because I'm calling bullshit?
>>139201671
All the characters are awful shallow bastardizations of their original selves, the introduction of Mari does literally nothing for the movie besides sell more figurines, and it prioritizes being a movie about giant robot action above all else.
>>139201730
>All the characters are awful shallow bastardizations of their original selves
Because?
>the introduction of Mari does literally nothing for the movie besides sell more figurines,
Same could have been said about Asuka. I don't see an argument here.
>and it prioritizes being a movie about giant robot action above all else.
I distinctly remember the movie having far more character development than action, and the robot action is always tied to characterization or plot.
Have you seen the original?
>>139201375
Anno is literally George Lucas, along with that hack Kojima.
>>139201849
George Lucas > Hideo Kojima > Hideaki Anno
Stop being fucking elitists already /a/
2.22 was a fucking great movie and shiro sagisu is a fucking god.
>>139201951
Only idiots hate on 2.22. Not elitists.
Elitists are on a whole different level.
>>139201832
Here's your (you).
>>139201832
>Because?
What do you mean "because"?
In the original NGE, every character was "stereotype, except they're actually that stereotype because they have a bunch of fucked up emotional hangups and a messy past". In Rebuilds, the characters are just the stereotypes played straight. Asuka is just a tsundere. Rei is just a kuudere. Shinji is basically a harem protagonist. Misato is the sexy adult. They explain Misato's backstory in a 5 minute scene told by Kaji. They "explain" Asuka's backstory by her being CRAAZYY and talking to a doll.
It feels like Anno said "you fucking fans want Shinji to not be a pussy and you want Rei to be sexy etc etc, well here you go fuckers, see how well that turns out"
>Same could have been said about Asuka
Are you legitimately implying Asuka's character and personality didn't serve an enormous purpose in the original series?
>>139201375
>He's a "Eva 1.0 is the best because it's a near 1-1 Remake. Fuck the fact that these are called Rebuilds" guy.
>He's a "Eva 3.0 is the best because it's the most like the show I love, especially when an Evangelion turned into a giant cat" guy.
>>139201832
>Same could have been said about Asuka.
Oh, you're a Reifag. That explains a lot.
>>139202014
He is, because he's a Reifag. He'll probably deny it and go "Nope I'm actually a Misatofag" or something but it's clear where his loyalties lie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeZMSCjYN3A
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>>139202082
>>He's a "Eva 3.0 is the best because it's the most like the show I love, especially when an Evangelion turned into a giant cat" guy.
>is criticizing 3.33 in the OP
?
>>139202011
I get it, you know I'm right.
>>139202014
>In the original NGE, every character was "stereotype, except they're actually that stereotype because they have a bunch of fucked up emotional hangups and a messy past". In Rebuilds, the characters are just the stereotypes played straight.
It seems like you've misunderstood the characters, and you have decided to judge both NGE and Rebuild character by some arbitrary rule, rather than judging them for the characters themselves.
None of the characters of Evangelion, nor Rebuild, are made to be part of that "stereotype" rule you just mentioned.
>Are you legitimately implying Asuka's character and personality didn't serve an enormous purpose in the original series?
I'm legitimately saying that in Asuka's NGE introduction, as in 2.0, she could have just sold figurines.
The big flaw in your argument that invalidates your entire stance is that you judge 2.0's characters as you would judge a complete character, with the basis being NGE's 26 episodes.
You can't do that.
>>139202122
It's clear that you're an Asukafag who got butthurt that it's true. Think about your own "loyalties" first, it's keeping you from being objective.
reminder that only reifags hate 2.0
3.0 is a mixed bag. I hated it on my first passthrough. You gotta give it a second chance, senpai.
>>139202197
Didn't mean to reply to the OP
>>139202235
>you judge 2.0's characters as you would judge a complete character
Mari has not done fucking anything in 2.0 or 3.0 and I'm still perplexed by her introduction
>Kino
EoE
>Cinema
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>Movie
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>Flick
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>>139202235
>None of the characters of Evangelion, nor Rebuild, are made to be part of that "stereotype" rule you just mentioned
nah
the original series was "subversions of a trope"
rebuild is just the trope
Picture related. Explains why 3.33 is garbage.
>>139202291
>Mari has not done fucking anything in 2.0 or 3.0 and I'm still perplexed by her introduction
There's no denying that Mari's character, as was everyone elses, forfeit by the time 3.0 was over.
>>139202342
Bullseye.
>>139201375
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>>139202343
nah
Because "subversions of a trope" isn't a real concept or thing. It's manchild lingo for "easy thing gone bad". If your source is tvtropes, then reconsider trying to forget everything you've learned there.
That site is poison.
Keep in mind that the "tropes", or "cliches" if you will, mentioned by the earlier poster literally wasn't coined by the time the original NGE was out. They were terms that did not exist. You can say they existed in some form, but it's silly to apply this to Evangelion at any rate. Keep in mind that Rei more or less defined her own stereotype back in the 90's.
What you're thinking about for NGE is simply well-developed and fleshed out characters. The idea that e.g they were more than something familiar characters is only denied in Evangelion through developing the characters. Which happens in the latest parts of NGE.
Therefore, if Asuka is a shallow character in her introduction, that's literally no different from how she was in the original.
2.22 = trash for shallow waifutards with no standards; shits on the original show
3.33 = a new, interesting, and refreshing twist on Evangelion; too radical to be appreciated by the typical haremfag Eva shitters that just like the show because it shows a lot of skin.
>>139202343
More like the Rebuild of the trope, am I right?
>>139201375
anno realized he could make total garbage and still make money
>>139202805
2.22 = a new, interesting, and refreshing twist on Evangelion; too radical to be appreciated by the typical haremfag Eva shitters that just like the show because it shows a lot of skin.
3.33 = trash for shallow waifutards with no standards; shits on the original show
>>139202805
>>139202952
also
>sub 300 anime
Pathetic.
>>139202343
First half of NGE was just the trope.
Coincidentally, Rebuild 1.11/2.22 form the first half of Rebuild.
>>139203072
>First half of NGE was just the trope.
And 3.33 has failed to elaborate on anything from 2.22 meaningfully so I treat 2.22 as a failure
2.22 was Attack On Titan with fucking mechs. Shinji turns into a confident player, all the bitches want on his dick, and his character is boring as fuck for the entire movie, much like every other character. It's interesting that they made Rei a lot more outgoing, but it's very jarring compared to what she's like in the original series.
However, I still enjoyed 2.22. I think the ending scene is amazing (fuck post credits scenes that change the plot completely though), despite the fact it is very shoneny (Shinji's screams of effort, saving the girl etc.) But as >>139201588 said, it's not an Evangelion movie.
3.33 is a complete clusterfuck of a film. Nothing is explained, and unlike the original series you can't dig for answers because there aren't any? What are the little Eva-esque drones they fight? Why a massive boat? Why is Misato mad at Shinji if she was cheering him on to save Rei? Why introduce those new characters on the bridge if they're of no relevance? Shit, why even is Shinji floating in space?
I could go on all day with the questions and there wouldn't be any answer for them. The whole experience is hollow but let's on it's deeper than it is, and that's terrible.
Also who thought having a lighthearted scene with Asuka manhandling Shinji right after Kaworu dying (which is supposed to be the worst thing to happen to Shinji)? Ruined the mood.
Please let 3+1 be god tier Anno. I couldn't deal if the Evangelion series ends on such sour notes.
@139202805
Stop posting this.
>>139203131
>And 3.33 has failed to elaborate on anything from 2.22 meaningfully so I treat 2.22 as a failure
Where's the logic in that?
>relay race
>first runner runs in at a good time
>second runner "runs" at a snails pace
>blame the first runner
No anon.
>>139203422
I think a lot of people, including myself, liked 2.22 because the characters acted like we wanted them to act, in other words Shinji maned up, Asuka opened up a bit and Rei wasn't emotionless. I don't think it's a bad thing per se, the Rebuilds can be seen as an alternate universe version of the characters.
3.33 has no redeeming qualities though. If Anno wanted to slap the fans in the face after giving them what they wanted in 2.22, he could have written an actual story instead of 90 minutes of nothing
Maybe the reason why it's taking so long for 3+1 to come out is that he cut himself in a corner?
>>139203695
Anno wrote the Rebuilds in the same way most new Eva works is written, which is to promote his favorite characters and to shove aside or degrade those he doesn't like.
That's why there isn't much to the story, it's second to this popularity game.
>>139203422
>Characters have development and become slightly more confident/mature
>This is somehow a bad thing.
I don't get that. Do people really want static, unchanging characters? In a rebuild, I'd expect some things to be different. Having Shinji change over time is one of the things I'd expect.
Though I'm not saying I approve of all the changes made to the characters in 2.22. Some really were hamfisted.
2.22 was something different and somewhat refreshing considering how much of a remake 1.11 was.
Then 3.0 comes along and just retreads everything. Sure, the setting is technically different, but the characters have reverted back to their old selves. The entire film is just a retread of episode 24, a long, drawn out version of it.
>>139203660
The first half of Evangelion would be shitty if that was all it was. But the second half ties it all together in one beautiful package.
Rebuild 2.22 has nothing to make it worthwhile yet, so at the moment, it's a failure.
>>139203660
I completely agree with that guy. I wasn't a huge fan of 2.22, but I gave it pass because the entire movie was basically for introducing elements and I thought it was going somewhere. Then 3.33 happened and all of that setup led to fuck all, making 2.22 pointless and annoying.
>>139203879
>Sure, the setting is technically different, but the characters have reverted back to their old selves
Unless you mean that in a general "bad" way, then sure.
But they're nothing like their old selves in 3.33.
>>139203874
But they don't have development.
Shinji goes from regular Shinji to Shonen protag somehow between 1 and 2, and stays that way throughout 2. I'm all for characters changing but I need more than 'yeah he's just like that now'.
Also Asuka gets like no screentime, is Anno a confirmed Reifag now?
>>139203932
That means 2.22 was a success, it genuinely created something people believed in.
It's annoying that 3.33 fucked it up, sure, but it doesn't change anything.
>>139203912
>The first half of Evangelion would be shitty if that was all it was. But the second half ties it all together in one beautiful package.
Sure.
>Rebuild 2.22 has nothing to make it worthwhile yet, so at the moment, it's a failure.
You mean, Rebuild is a failure.
You can identify two good parts of Rebuild (1.11 and 2.22), and one bad part (3.33). If 3.33 was poor and didn't deliver, then 2.22 and 1.11 still retain their success in making something you could deliver on.
>>139204034
You're a butthurt Asukafag, your opinion isn't worth anything. Not only that, there's clear progression for Shinji in 2.22.
You don't know shit about Anno either.
>>139204071
No, it does, it completely changes the context of what was shown in 2.22.
For example, Mari is a terrible character in 2.22. The fanfiction copypasta is exactly spot-on, but I forgave that because I thought that they were going to do something with that character. Now that I know they haven't done anything with the character, her introduction in 2.22 is as completely stupid and pointless as it seemed.
What was your intent on making this thread? Oh, said this anime is bad thinking we would recommend you something better. Sorry buddy, that doesn't fly here.
>>>/wsr/ and don't come back until you have lurked more.
>>139202281
>3.0 is a mixed bag. I hated it on my first passthrough. You gotta give it a second chance, senpai.
How? 3.0 made me depressed for weeks. Too fastpaced at points, too slowpaced at others, a clusterfuck with no answers with the 14 years time skip changing all the characters... and an absolutely hopeless ending making you think that the best Shinji can do is die: he's only a danger for the world now, and no one seems to actually care about him. Even Asuka gave me the impression that she was only rescuing him to put him again in vigilance, because of orders, and nothing else. I remember how their relationship was back in 2.22 with the bed scene for example and it makes me sad. And the rest of the cast seems they hate him or is dead. (Where's Kaji? Toji? Kensuke?)
That's something never happened to me before, so I don't know if I want to go through that again. I don't think is utter hate what it makes me feel, I just wish I could unsee it sometimes. And the fact 4.0 is taking so long makes me lose even more the hope in an explanation for everything or a good ending, like if Anno himself is lost. I know this is Eva and all, but even in NGETV or EOE you could have a tiny hope.
>>139201375
That they can sell any rubbish film with the right marketing and a popular brand name, regardless of quality.
I wasn't as fond of 2.22 as others, but the end and preview interested me. 3.33 blew all the potential and just brought more questions than answers.
>>139204157
>No, it does, it completely changes the context of what was shown in 2.22.
It doesn't. 2.22 is literally the same movie it always was.
You're confused. You're thinking of your opinion of Rebuild, not the movies alone. As a movie, both 1.11 and 2.22 are fine. More than fine in fact.
Don't you get that you have to take one or two steps first, to walk the full mile? You can't just walk halfway and then think the first steps were pointless, or that they didn't matter.
>>139204296
You and that other guy are absolutely fucking retarded.
Just saying.
>hurdur good ending
Literally
Doesn't
Matter
>>139204346
It's disingenuous to ignore the context of the series. Context can improve or ruin something. Like I said at the beginning, 2.22 is a fine action flick. But the greater context that we now have makes it a misstep.
Magma Diver is shit. Jet Alone is shit. The first two episodes of Madoka is shit. But their context validates them. And 2.22's context worsens it.
>>139204116
I couldn't give two fucks about Asuka or Rei you salty wank, there's not an ounce of progression in Shinji in 2.22.
And yes jump to Master Anno's protection, he is all seeing and infallible right? I love him as much as the next guy but he's human, he a have biases, and if you think Asuka and Rei had the same amount of notable screentime as each other then you're letting your own biases get in the way of the facts.
>>139204296
>and an absolutely hopeless ending making you think that the best Shinji can do is die: he's only a danger for the world now
That's the idea
>>139204480
It's disingenuous to think context applies retroactively.
It's also disingenuous to apply it in the wrong places, as you are. The movie is the exact same, and it has the exact same amount of potential it always had, that it was never delivered upon is another matter entirely.
>>139204501
>I couldn't give two fucks about Asuka or Rei you salty wank, there's not an ounce of progression in Shinji in 2.22.
Nah, you are an Asukafag, and a butthurt one. Picking out a Rei image changes nothing.
>And yes jump to Master Anno's protection, he is all seeing and infallible right? I love him as much as the next guy but he's human, he a have biases
I'm not protecting Anno. In fact he sacrificed characters like Toji to have more Asuka in the movie.
>and if you think Asuka and Rei had the same amount of notable screentime as each other then you're letting your own biases get in the way of the facts.
They have about the same. In terms of focus, and considering the fact that Rebuild cuts down on everyone's screentime, Asuka's is one of the first ones to go since she's not as relevant as the rest.
>>139204346
So as an individual movie, taken on its own without its context, Mari in 2.22 is a terrible character. The only reason I didn't care that she was a terrible character was because there existed the possibility of her introduction being justified in the sequel.
Now that I know that her introduction was not justified because of 3.33, she's now just a terrible character.
This is a microcosm of all the problems with 2.22. Setup exists for payoff. If the payoff sucks, then the setup loses its merit.
>>139204689
I love the irony that an obvious Reifag is calling me a butthurt Asukafag, you can't make this shit up.
>Asuka's is one of the first ones to go since she's not as relevant as the rest.
Remember what I said about biases? You've got them dude. I'll post more Rei, it might calm you down.
>>139204862
Let me hear some arguments instead. I doubt you have any, and you're just a salty Asukafag.
Providing proof and evidence solves everything, being a salty asukafag solves nothing. It's your choice.
>>139204918
The proof is watching the movie, I can't do that for you anon. And please keep calling me an Asukafag, surely if you say it enough it will become true.
I liked the first one the most, remaking the entire series like that in 4 modern movies with filler removed and some nice scenes added would've been the better choice.
2.22 deviated from the original, not to do something new and interesting, but to sell merchandise. Maria's sole purpose in the franchise is to pander to boobs and glasses fags, sell 3 figurines of plugsuits, plus casual wear figurines, plus 2 new evas that play pretty much no role whatsoever, all the while having about 5 lines total across 2 movies. Also Asuka's new lewd plugsuit that serves no other purpose than selling another figurine.
3.33 went all out on the forced merchandise. The whaleship, 3 new evas, plus the feline form of 02, new suits for everyone yet again, new designs for the rest of the cast because loltimeskip, while keeping the teenage main cast at a convenient pedo-pandering age with another asspull.
The designs and world looks different to convey Shinji's feeling of alienation that drives him into becoming a confused plot device doing Anno's asspull bidding? My ass, it's just a cash-grab.
>>139204768
>So as an individual movie, taken on its own without its context, Mari in 2.22 is a terrible character.
Correction: They are all terrible characters. All of them.
Shinji, Misato, Rei, Asuka, Gendo, in Rebuild they are all bad characters. All of them, no exceptions. Are some worse than others? Sure, but they are all bad.
Evangelion and other similar movie series feature a story that evolves with the plot. 1.11's, 2.22's stories tie together and reach a certain point by the time they are done, adding on top of each other to create a greater whole.
Every story has it's beginning, every character has it's introduction. So Mari, in the context of 2.22 is a fine new introductory character. Believe me, it would be way, way worse if you had her steal more screentime than she did.
Setup can be good, even without the payoff. There's a billion real world examples that back up this, which should already be a fact you should accept.
I can give you an amazing pass in football, leaving you only with the need to score. So when you fumble, it doesn't mean my pass was shit. It means you fumbled.
A fractured piece of a gold nugget doesn't suddenly lose value because you lost it's greater half.
>>139205022
The choice was yours. All you had to do was write "why", which is super-easy. But since you can't, you're an Asukafag who knows that revealing that just taints his opinion too much.
>>139205082
'Why' what exactly? My main point was about Shinji's lack of development, the Asuka bit was a side note, and don't talk to me about my opinion being tainted when you're obviously a Reifag who thinks Asuka is not a relevant character due to said bias.
>>139205048
>it doesn't mean my pass was shit. It means you fumbled.
This is a bad analogy because it's the same fucking guy making the movies. He missed the pass to himself.
>>139205352
Then point out where you think he lacks development. Because I don't see anything lacking.
No bias here. If we were to cut down Evangelion's running time, we cut Asuka's screentime because most of her time is redundant, and can be solved differently. She is also less relevant to the plot and story, which needs to remain intact.
So good bye magma diver, good bye lengthy angel battle intro, good bye dancing want to win. Jet Alone is also gone, for the same reasons. We have a story to finish.
>>139205379
Same principle. It's him at one point in time, and another point in time.
Imagine you're playing indoor soccer then. You kick the ball into the wall, and bounce it around the defenders and back to yourself a little further up. You then fumble and shoot a self-goal.
Good pass, horrible finish.
There is such a thing.
>>139205537
>Good pass, horrible finish.
And overall still regarded as a shitty play because, as a whole, it was not successful.
>>139205048
Except that's not what I'm saying. Using your analogy, it'd be more like if you fucked up a critical pass so badly it got intercepted and the other team got a touchdown, but it was okay because we were sure that the star player was going to cover for you and win the game. Then we lose the game. If we had won, the bad pass would've been fine and forgotten, but we didn't so now the pass is cast in a bad light.
>>139205633
A commentator would never regard it as a poor play, he'd go ballistic about how great the play was and how bad the striker should be lynched after the game.
But yes, overall it wasn't good enough - which is the point here. Rebuild isn't good enough overall. But there are parts on it, passes if you will, that are great.
>>139205688
>Using your analogy, it'd be more like if you fucked up a critical pass so badly it got intercepted and the other team got a touchdown,
No, because the preceding passes were fine, the latter half of the play wasn't. So if we're going to move forward in our understanding, we'd have to do exactly what the team would do after the game.
Understand what went right, and what went wrong. In that case, and in ours, we can see that 1.11 and 2.22 brought us along a good path we could use to really get somewhere. But then we come to 3.33, which is the football equivalent of scoring an own-goal and sitting down, refusing to play for the rest of the match.
4 is never happening is it
>>139202805
3.33= radical new eva approach that no one will understand till the last movie,and till then it is just shit
>>139205821
I'm not saying that 2.22 was good setup. Your opinion is that 2.22 built-up good will for an eventual letdown. I'm saying that 2.22 took an advance on goodwill.
>>139205843
Not before Godzillawhich will never happen
>>139205459
Shinji's pretty confident in himself throughout the whole movie, like when he has the balls to give Rei some soup at the aquarium thing. This is pretty constant. Now how he reaches this point isn't covered. We see him just sort of drift from event to event, with his character staying roughly the same throughout. Then he just goes full ham shonen at the end.
Again, you're being biased. Asuka's relevance to the story is subjective. Why isn't Shinji falling for Asuka in 2 instead of Rei? The story could continue on fine, it's not like Rei is anything in 3 anyways. I'll totally admit Asuka has her share of useless parts in the original series, however her part in Shinji's story is just as important as Rei's, and you'd be blind to not see that.
>>139205945
I'm saying that you're wrong, and it did in fact build up goodwill. This is a fact, the reaction and atmosphere in the fanbase could be described as such.
It was also good enough on it's own to be made into something. You have to start somewhere, and 1.11+2.22 was a good start. Reminder that there is nothing special about NGE's characters until you pass episode 13 and onwards.
>>139203695
>a lot of people, including myself, liked 2.22 because the characters acted like we wanted them to act
This is the reason anime isn't taken seriously as an artform.
>>139203695
>anime was a mistake
>>139206089
>Shinji's pretty confident in himself throughout the whole movie, like when he has the balls to give Rei some soup at the aquarium thing.
This doesn't require any balls, keep in mind he's been cooking since 1.11.
This point was covered in 1.11, where you see him especially with Rei, and they grow closer by the end of the film. In 2.22, we have the natural continuation of this.
>We see him just sort of drift from event to event, with his character staying roughly the same throughout. Then he just goes full ham shonen at the end.
Because you didn't pay attention. Each little bit changes Shinji, either gives him hope or makes him lose it.
Failing at Bardiel and losing control there angers and disappoints him, but also lets him know that he has failed, hence when he understands he has blood on his hands in 2.22, literally in the scene, of course he's going to take action. Just like he did in NGE, only now with more reason to do so.
>Again, you're being biased. Asuka's relevance to the story is subjective.
It's not. It's quantifiable, and objective. If we are going to reduce screentime, we can reduce Asuka's because as you yourself admitted here:
>I'll totally admit Asuka has her share of useless parts in the original series,
which is all we need. Everyone elses parts were also cut, Toji was cut entirely for instance.
>Why isn't Shinji falling for Asuka in 2 instead of Rei?
Oh god you're an Asuka/Shinji shipper. Just buzz off. You're a dumb asukafag shipper, and you're the reason this fanbase sucks.
>>139206097
>thinking wish fulfillment and self-inserting is unique to weebs only
What is Doctor Who, Sherlock etc.
>>139206096
I'm not trying to speak for everyone, I'm just talking about how I see the film now and explaining why it's rational.
>>139206351
It's not rational. If it was, I wouldn't really bother replying.
I can almost guarantee you that I view Rebuild and most of what Evangelion has released in the past 20 years in a worse manner than you do. However, regardless of what I think, it still remains that 2.22 and 1.11 was headed somewhere good.
>>139201832
>Same could have been said about Asuka
You have got to be trolling. Mari literally adds nothing to the plot, her introduction is just "here's another female pilot" and that's it. Other than that and sucking up to Asuka, she has no fucking purpose in the show. Asuka, meanwhile, is an interesting character, her constant bitching aside, but it's explained that her bitching is rooted in deep-seated fears and trauma. She serves as an import factor in Shinji's life, living together with him and all. You know how teenagers are, right? At that age their hormones get crazy and they do dumb shit. Not to fucking mention that Shinji wants to put his dick inside her.
tl;dr: You are either trolling, dumb as a brick or have leaky memory.
>>139206578
Yeah, and I don't agree. I was only okay with how dumb most of 2.22 was because I thought it was going somewhere. Now that I know it doesn't go anywhere, those parts no longer have an excuse and they're just dumb. This is not a case where you watch a commercial that gets you excited for a shitty product, and you're disappointed in the product but you still think the commercial is good because it sold you on the shitty product. In my case, I saw a commercial that I thought was dumb, but I was still excited and sure that the product it was advertising was going to be good, so I didn't mind the commercial. Then the product turned out to be shit, so now, opinions unclouded, I admit the commercial was shit too.
>>139206780
>You have got to be trolling. Mari literally adds nothing to the plot,
You've got to be trolling. Mari literally adds more to the plot than Asuka in 2.22. Mari is shown to be part of sabotaging a whole NERV-facility along with Kaji, while also dealing with IPEA and literally interjecting in a fight upsetting NERV.
Asuka is just another cliche tsundere characters. Deep-rooted fears and what? Literally not in the movie. Anything you put as positive for Asuka is in NGE, not Rebuild.
tl;dr: You are either trolling, dumb as a brick, have leaky memory or is just yet-another-butthurt Asukafag.
Asuka added nothing to the plot when she was introduced in NGE. She doesn't add much more in Rebuild either. Mari is no different.
Your "waifu" isn't good unless one spends time making her good. Just like NGE did.
>>139206952
That's no way to view a series. NGE's early episodes were fun when you watched them, and they built on for something more. Rebuild did the same thing.
Neither early NGE or 2.22 are "commercials", they're part of a story that deserves to be finished.
3.33 is the big bad here, full on with pandering and all.
>>139201375
Hating 2.22 is a fucking meme. It's a good movie.
Got an audio clip with AVGN asking this?
>>139207276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP-r6rzIWtI
>What were they THINKING?!
Rebuild is worth it just for 1.11
That new Ramiel fight gets my dick ROCK SOLID
>>139207184
>hurr durr ultraman ripoff
It's shit.
>>139207715
>i never watched ultraman but I saw someone memeing an image with it so now I complain
You're shit.
>>139207778
I did watch some ultraman and that was a 1:1 unoriginal ripoff of it.
>>139207715
nigga the tv series, EOE and the Rebuild movies are all ripoffs of various Ultraman series. Even the fucking title sequence is a ripoff of UFO.
There isn't a single second of original content in Evangelion. Everything Anno has ever made is good only because of the strength of what he was referencing when he made it.
>>139208004
Difference being at least NGE didn't have frame by frame ripoffs of it.
NGE was influenced.
Rebuild straight up took the fucking frames.
>>139207850
>some
top poser
>>139208042
>not knowing that nge, rebuild etc straight out rips off other works frame by frame
Nigger you pleb. Stop making up reasons to hate on a great movie like 2.22.
>>139208132
>nge rips off other works frame by frame
Got any examples?
Because as far as I know 2.0 is the only one to do the frame by frame lazy bullshit.
It's a shit movie.
