Anime about combat pilots when?
>>139179809
Area 88, Yukikaze
How about combat pilots in anthropomorphic planes?
>>139179809
There's a handful already.
>>139179990
He just wanted to post his plane image.
>>139179809
Can't come soon enough,
Female lead of course and slavshit planes as main planes
>muh ace combat electrosphere
Any series about cute girls flying fighter jets?
>>139179809
Strike Witches is literally about ace pilot like saburo sakai, hartmann and etc.
Heavy Object's author has a spinoff about a cute ace pilot girl ready to go, so if that ever gets adapted we'll have the ace combat anime we always wanted.
The basic premise is that there are areas of the world where objects can't fight and conventional wars occur, so ace pilots show up. The setting is essentially airspace B7R.
Just play Ace Combat. It's pretty much anime.
>>139179809
Season 2 of White Box.
>>139179809
We are sort of getting one next season, Macross delta.
Although those planes can also turn into robots.
The girls aren't piloting, btw.
>>139179809
Whenever it is, not soon enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWRdMX1VaZA
I've said it before and I'll say it again, AC5 could be a straight adaption.
Full anime when?
>>139181444
>>139180578
Holy Trinity anime when?
>>139179809
Movie, and Season 2, even.
>>139181219
best thing about this are the J-35 Drakens
>>139181478
Sweden pls
>>139181478
Gripen-chan superior.
>>139181478
Maid is perfect.
>>139181478
not superior Phantom II E
>>139181219
We all know it will be about idols in space with occasional unimportant background space battles with space robots that can turn into space planes.
>>139179809
>They will never make an anime about Ace Combat 4
>>139181777
4, 5, 6, Zero, and X would all be perfect for anime.
>>139181808
5 is pretty much already geared to be an anime. 26 episodes (+ mission 27 OVA), have the split choice missions happen as cutaways in the same episode...
>>139181744
checked ! doubs for superior double ugly ! nice
also thats the EJ
>>139181846
>You will neverTAKE IT ALL AWAY
TAKE IT ALL AWAY-HEY
WHEN YOU SHOVED IT IN MY FACE
EXPLAINING IT TO ME
>>139181936
>Playing the Journey Home mission of Ace Combat 5
>>139181478
NEVER
E
V
E
R
>>139182092
>Playing the liberation of gracemeria in Ace Combat 6
>>139182092
>When you realize that they've created a legend and introduced it to you so you can then see how Wardog follows the path of it and embodies the Razgriz myth, and it's handled so well that you don't even mind when they literally call you Razgriz Squadron
>>139182092
>>139181577
>1. All images and resulting discussion should pertain to anime or manga.
Discussion of video games should be taken to the appropriate board, >>>/v/
>>139181866
>3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.
Please lurk for 2 years before posting.
>>139181646
Objectively and subjectively incorrect.
>>139182195
>taking a shit in an /a/ces thread
It's you who should lurk more.
>>139182246
>"i don't lurk so i don't care about the rules!"
consider not doing this
>>139182167
>Playing any mission in Ace Combat 6
BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP
But modern air combats are boring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjXr9Nj5ZbI
/a/ces thread?
/a/ces thread!
oh how I missed you guys
>tfw top-gun loli in heavy object never
The closest we'll ever get to a not Area88 or Yukikaze is Larry foulke in Heavy Object
>>139181478
Can't decide if sweden or kike-chan is best girl.
>>139182195
So I take it you want this (You) then?
>>139179931
you called?
Go to pixiv and don't come back without a plane.
>>139180255
No real planes though.
>>139180578
assault horizon was shit.
>>139181646
>Gripen
nigger plz
>>139179990
Not enough. Area 88, The Cockpit and Yukikaze are the only good ones.
>>139180578
Oh, if it could work with emulator without bugs.
>>139181777
You have Gundam with Yellow 13 and Yellow 4 being featured in different forms.
>>139181444
AC trailers got me more hype than anything from the last two generation, and still is.
Done right, it will make a better anime than any other flight anime.
>Yukikaze collab when?
>>139181478
GIRLY AIR FORCE ADAPTATION WHEN!?
http://www.hlj.com/product/TMT26397/Sci
>>139180578
And now I had just imagined an Ace Combat anime with all the main character pilots together in one sitting. I wonder how would that go and what genre would that be.
>inb4 slice of life, ecchi, or whatever
>>139182946
> inb4 muv luv like battle harem...
>this thread
GET OUT OF MY AIRSPACE!
Reminder you should watch Stratos 4
>>139183020
I bet you were at that mech vs tanks thread
>>139182514
Burning Alpha is the hero we need. It's a shame his moment in the anime was bogged down by the CGI.
>>139183020
HARMs wanne have a word with you
Post planes.
>>139183185
Tunguska was actually designed to also hit HARMs, which is why there were also paired with longer range SAMs. Failing that, they could solely use electro-optics only or have extensive EW assets in place to protect it.
>>139180578
I just pulled out my PS2, AC5 and a CRT to play the last mission thanks to this thread. I still want an anime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrPW-lRxzRs
Also, Electrosphere was a legitimately good sci-fi story, it blows my mind that, in a time where stuff like that was popular, they decided to cut out any semblance of a plot.
>tfw there will never be an Ace Combat anime
>>139184231
Meh, you'd probably just get a million faggots bitching about how it isn't realistic anyways. At least we always have Macross.
>>139182311
>passive radar
>obviously heat seeking
>>139183027
yes if you want to watch a boring hardly animated show
>tfw we will never see pixy and cipher fight animated
Just end my life
>>139183002
No but in all seriousness, I wonder how would the interactions between Scarface 1, Nemo, Mobius 1, Cipher, Blaze, Talisman and whoever else I'm missing would be like.
Sky Crawlers is about combat pilots, and is one of the greatest animated films of all time.
>>139181444
Man, playing AC5 was one of the most hype experiences in gaming.
>that soundtrack
>those missions
>those TWEESTs
>>139184830
Fuck off, SK is utter shit, looks like shit and has no air combat.
>>139184231
Forget about anime; there will never be an AC HD collection either.
Suhkoi > Lockheed
>>139185116
They're trying
>>139185530
us at /aceg/ have almost lost hope even with AC7 around the corner due to lack of informationtfw i was in the thread when that happened.
Man I feel old
>>139185530
I only imagined how their faces were when Ace Combat 7 was confirmed.
I want to see cute girls in a g-force training centrifuge.
>>139185585
You can hear for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_-YE9uLRTM#t=2h7m24s
>>139185086
>SK
no further questions
>you will never be a Vietnamese loli flying a MiG-21 in the defense of her homeland
I just want an ova about top-gun loli goddamnit but that wont happen
>>139179809
801 TTS. Cool picture of MiG-31 though.
>best pilot with Nabiki hair, Rally Vincent's body and Ryoko's voice
>>139186064
>I just want an ova about top-gun loli goddamnit but that wont happen
And thank God. No more lolishit.
>>139186064
>>139185627
Yeah that sounds about right.
>>139186245
>it's a "tryhard group of clanfags spam AMRAAMs at everyone" episode
>>139186245
Would you let her be your copilot, /a/?
>>139186329
>It's a "Scarface out of fucking nowhere" episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEeB2R-outc
>>139187043
>Ace Combat 2
>>139187043
[ BULLSEYE ]
>>139187334
pssh, nothin personnel kid
>>139185997
>you will never shoot down those commie lolis
>>139187334
That's some jumpjet shit
>>139187334
Is this actually possible to pull off?
>>139187648
Can you defy physics? In anime world where NIPPONNNNN is the main character and the enemy is some gajin, yes. In real life? No.
>>139187365
How can 3D physics even compare??!!
>>139179809
strike witches
>>139187730
>>139187740
IRL planes can pull off some questionable maneuvers, so I was just checking.
Yo buddy, just look at the view.
>>139188017
Yeah but not THAT questionable.
>>139188052
NOICE
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>>139188050
>>139187334
Source? Seems like some good plane action anime
>>139182699
That's because it was the only one that WASN'T anime.
>It's a 8492th squadron doesn't exist episode
The sakuga would go off the charts
>>139188160
1. its not
2. its just a one episode OVA thing
Alright guys fun's over
>>139188207
get out lockheed shill
>>139187407
>shooting down commie lolis
That's the dream right there.
>>139188160
>>139187334
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=718915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXadee4y5PQ
best part of brokeback airforce
>>139188207
Oh boy, here we go...
>>139188274
Thanks anon
>>139188207
>>139188335
Typhoon is ugly, but it has one good angle and that's head on. Very elegant and intimidating from that angle.
Garuda 1, DRIVE
>>139181646
That's a Viggen, you damn idiot.
ITT: flying coffins
Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhdNjzX4waA
>>139188641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neNhB-M6Fqs
>>139188611
It honestly reminds me of a WWII carrier based fighter from the front view; like a hellcat or a corsair
>>139188773
<< All TSFs, we're gonna take back Berlin today! >>
>>139188826
I love this one.
>>139188826
>only my railgun starts playing
>>139188843
Yeah, I can see why you might think that. I think in that particular image at least its the canards giving the false impression that the wings have that distinctive Corsair curve, but in reality that's not the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFdoq60tkY0
First 3 minute is my favorite.
>>139181478
>>139181622
>>139181646
>>139181668
>>139182612
amerifat the best
>>139188957
The OST during the dogfights is so cool.
>>139188773
As somebody who owned a PS2, but has only bought a 360 and XB1 since then, I'm pissed that AC7 is PS4 exclusive.
prop fighters > point and click jet fighters
>>139180255
it's also utter cancer
>>139189025It's not exclusive, only the VR features are
>>139189025
To be fair, AC06 was 360 onry
>>139188693
pro tip: there's viggen and gripen in that picture
/k/ raid
>>139189062
You better not be messing with me! Everything I've seen so far about it indicates PS4 exclusive.
>>139189125
And for that I am eternally grateful as I love that game.
>>139189025
so dose this mean i can have AC7 on PC too ?!
>>139189167
We have always been here.
>>139189173
>>139189062
It was only announced for PS4, it will be probably exclusive BECAUSE of the VR.
>>139189203
it's called ass horizon
>>139189137
No, there's not.
>>139189137
Where's the Gripen?
>>139189229
fuck you! that thing was even more shit on PC than on console
>>139189030
Imagine where fighters would be today if by some fluke of history jet power had never been invented.
>>139189173
Bamco press release said the VR featrures were exclusive to Playstation VR, but not the game being exclusive.
>>139189304
>>139189229
I can deal without the VR because personally I only really like VR in simulator-type games, which AC isn't.
Seriously, if AC7 came to XB1, it would go a long way towards reducing the volume of negativity feelings I have for my XB1.
>>139189173
My only complaint (and its not really a complaint) is that I feel like Garuda 1 should havedied at the end. Like, it would have been a way more emotional ending if you finished the mission and everything afterwards was some kind of memorial type thing. Kind of as a follow to the endings of 04 and 5.
Also, AC07 is PS4 exclusive.
>>139187334
The dumb thing isn't just the silly physics, its that the pilots aren't wearing any flight suits.
I know that you need the audience to recognize characters but its okay to cover up most of the face when you have other ways to tell characters apart.
>>139189304
>>139189406
The real answer is no one knows yet, the game isn't even done.
>>139189137
There's a Viggen and an IAI Kfir, which you're confusing for a Gripen.
>>139188207
Where's that bingo chart of the average f-35 thread?
>>139181444
you guys always have your threads over here.
Is /v/ incapable of talking ace combat anymore? It's puzzling.
>>139187334
I thought this was a visual reference to Yukikaze, IIRC, the titular jet performs a similar maneuver to shoot down an incoming missile... making the pilot pass out in the process.
>>139189855
>Is /v/ incapable of talking ace combat anymore? It's puzzling.
/vg/ has its AC general at least. Not sure about because who really visits that shithole anymore?
>>139189304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJsAK9NU6Pg
Why do I remember most of these shitty AMVs? What is my life?
>>139190008
It fits perfectly though. They even share Belka as location, coincidence?
CUM HISTOOOOOORIA
>>139190642
MUTAT VALDE RAZGRIZ
>>139190794
REVELAT IPSUMNice patches, I got 2 myself.
>>139185627
>ACE
>FUCKING
>COMBAT OH MY GOD
Truly he was the ace of aces
>>139190951
[muffled puddle of mud playing in the distance]
>>139188957
Problem is that the rest of that ova was huge pile of shit.
>>139191219
>not liking alien magic
I want WW2 pacific aerial combat anime with no focus on Zeroes.
>>139179809
No one come close to Macross Zero in this field: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8bDpW823o
>>139190951
PRIMON DAEMON SCLESTUS EST
>>139191294
When I watched Plus, I expected something like Area 88 with transforming planes. Instead of that I got awful love story, shitty alien magic, battle scenes are close to being nonexistent. And Roy Fokker's GF was very bland. And Roy himself wasn't that interesting. And music was shit.
>>139191402
Leiji Matsumoto's The Cockpit part 2 was about Ohka suicide rockets.
>>139191402
B-29 raids on japan
>>139185627
At what time in that video is AC7 revealed?
>>139191662
2h 7m 24s
Okay so check this out. Alright so magical girls right? And their magical girl forms that they transform into are very mecha musume ish. But actually. Check this out. Actually, on closer inspection, they are based on jet fighters. MC's magical girl form is F-22 and her winggirl is F-15. Then they meet the old veteran (high schooler) A-10. And like they kill aliens from another dimension that are based on Soviet/Russian planes. These aliens eventually start recruiting other girls to fight for them. And like eventually the setting gets expanded and we see the viewpoints of both sides and it is no longer and black and white war. Basically, Ace Combat, but magical girls.
>>139188162
>F-5E
So rare to see good taste in one of these threads.
>>139191718
Thanks anon.,
Anime about cute planes doing cute plane things when?
>>139191862
Kawasaki best girl
>>139189995
The AC general dies every 5 minutes. It's literally deader thanPJ.
>>139192338
Why would you do this?
>>139191570
>suicide rockets
Japs were pretty retarded.
>>139187407
Is this ugly moe?
>>139192397
Do what?
Why are military jets so sexual?
>>139190008
Post the good one at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wba6XWbpT-k
>>139192422
They also had many suicide things like suicide torpedoes, suicide boats and suicide infantry.
Myfatwaifu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lUNSMdnpkw
>>139192635
It's the sleek curves.
>>139192635
They got big "intakes".
>>139192635
Why are experimental planes so beautiful?
Cute pilot girls wearing cute helmets and cute oxygen masks when?
>>139192819
Delete this crippled wreck.
I don't go to /k/ so I'm unsure, what do they think about the F-35?
>>139192819
Get out of here Pixy.
>>139191862
>tfw this will never ever happen
;_;
>>139192819
Only some of them are beautiful.
>>139192819
Because they look more original and intersting than mass-produced ones.
>>139192875
It's shit and only Lockheed shills thinks it's anything but shit.
>>139192839
You jelly you don't look nearly as good as it
>>139192905
Not even the power of smiles could save her.
I'm personally still convinced that even if she had been better than the F-35, she would never have been selected due to how retarded she looks.
>>139192933
>internet millennials don't know that the F-35 is hardly unique as the development cycles of military jets go
Give them a few years after roll-out to work out the kinks and she'll be fine - just like almost every other modern jet that has ever entered service.
>>139192953
Don't bully.
>using "she" when talking about planes
>>139193029
Hello, Lockheed.
>>139192185
>what if Ace Combat meets Strike Witches
I'd watch it depending on how they handle making the characters like that.
>>139193131
Doesn't even have to be Lockheed. Look at any mainline US combat aircraft rolled out since the end of WW2. They've all had their kinks and have been getting progressively more expensive. The F-35 is just the natural culmination of that, and the only reason its failures are getting more attention this time around is because we live in the age of the internet.
That said, I will admit that the existence of the F-35B has compromised the overall design.
>>139193101
>using "she" when talking about boats
>>139193101
"It" is rather cold, don't you think?
>>139192917
Why would you want a inferior La-5 look-alike?
>>139193356
I think the plane would prefer it if you used the proper pronouns there anon, like lockheed, or Sukhoi. Think about how it feels.
ŠØŠ²ŠµŃŠ¾Š²!
>>139191908
Cessna is that you ?
>>139193356
>tfw grill
>use "it" and "them" to refer to my favorite planes
>don't want to use "him" 'cause I'll sound wierder
I'VE BEEN SO COLD TO MYPLANEBANDOS
>>139193658
>not liking the F-5
It's one of the most elegant fighters ever designed. Everything else from that era just looks fat by comparison.
So is there like a tier list of aircraft or something? Not just in terms of actual usefulness, but popularity and aesthetics wise too.
I've only played the ace combat games and know very little of real aircraft. But my favorite is theSu-27
>>139193688
All vehicles are female. There are a small number of exceptions though.
>>139180244
Stratos 4.
>>139193734
>So is there like a tier list of aircraft or something?
Do you want a shitstorm? Because asking something like that is how you get a shitstorm.
>>139193409
More cannons, M-71 engine with superior power, rails for RS-82 rockets.
>>139193503
ŠŃо?
>>139180244
yes
>>139193734
>tier list
Fuck off, /v/.
>>139179809
You mean Area 88, 801 TTS Airbats, or Idol Defense Force Hummingbird?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBIYLpsbu4
>>139193734
They're are all beautiful and perfect in their own little ways.
It's just that some of them are more perfect than others.
Wont watch if it doesnt feature this qt
>>139193101
Ships (and hence also planes) have always been "she", not because of any anthropomorfism, but simply because that's the historical gender of the word itself.
You're at the orphanage with you gf looking to adopt a child when this guy bombs your gf's ass as well as a nearby bread factory, what do? Oh yeah, he's in a Bf-109 G-14 and has over 300 confirmed aerial kills.
>>139193688
MiG 31 is a slutty bottom! I want to bully him!
>>139194059
>big penis hanging out the back
Sorry, I'm not into traps.
>>139194196
Ask my pal to deal with him.
>>139194269
>him
You see, it does sound wrong.
>>139188052
what you don't see is the pilot blacking out from the G-force
>>139194325
Look at him though, he can fit 3 inside!
>>139194059
What's the giant dong in its ass?
>we will never see Cipher vs Pixy animated in the same vein as test flights in Macross Plus
Ground attack units are NOT for sexual. OK
A-10 A BEST!
>>139194428
Radar to fire missiles.. backwards.
>>139192185
>>139192241
>>139192315
>>139192354
>>139192394
I absolutely loath this design, just strapping wings/jets on girls and calling them planes. Something like GuP is how you do a "cute girls flying cute planes" show.
Fuck KanColle for making this cancer popular.
>>139194644
Strike Witches would've been great if they actually flew planes.
>>139194272
i bet you like french fag planes that point their dick at you
>>139194644
So, how new are you that you don't even know what "mecha musume" is?
>>139193734SU-47 > F-22
>>139194722
Its shit is what it is.
>>139194810
My afroamerican brother.
I like OSEA
The F-35 is in a death spiral, I assure you.
Nanoha Ace Combat Zero!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJsAK9NU6Pg
>>139195025
in more than one sense
>Take Madoka
>Replace "magical girl" with fighter pilot
>Replace wish with "large sums of money to pay for your mom's cancer treatment"
>take Kyubey and replace with "shadowy PMC with seemingly altruistic motivations"
>????
>Profit?
Hypothetically /a/, could this be viable?
>>139195025
The best ones are built during war anyway.
Look, I want an anime about AC as much as the next faggot, but it just won't happen. Let's be real here, /a/ces, you can't POSSIBLY mimic that certain feeling the game gives you when you are partly experiencing the story yourself. Not even an anime original will come close.
>>139195095
Maybe.
I'd definitely watch it, if the fighter pilot is still a cute girl (or woman).
>>139195117
No, but you can still make it cool as fuck.
<< Your fairy godmother's here, Cinderella. >>
>>139179809
Aoki Uru in 2018, get hype.
>>139194712
I don't like pencil dicks.
>>139195025
And you're basing this on what exactly? Memes?
>>139191862
>MC's magical girl form is F-22 and her winggirl is F-15.
No way, what it should be is that mysterious girl who starts at odds with MC-chan is F-22, and MC-chan and her friends/comrades thinks she's an F-22 too but she somehow just can't get it right, her transformations are all partial and don't really work. Everyone assumes she's just not very competent, but her ideals and other skills make them like her anyway. Then at the critical point of battle when all looks lost 1/2 to 2/3 of the through the season, the truth is revealed:She's actually an F-23! Cue full themesong and powers united.
>>139194810
>SU-47
>liking meme planes
>>139195559
>She's actually an F-23!
Jesus Christ, imagine the threads on /a/ after that episode!
>>139195559
BGMćMy Friends Are My Wingsć
>>139180583
I don't think you know what anthropomorphic means
>>139181535
I want a skin for War Thunder which replaces the pilots with fairies.
>>139192338
Fuck you.
PJ IS STILL ALIVE.
I KNOW IT IN MY HEART.
>>139187365
Love that fucking show!
What could have been.
>>139179809
Since the advent of CG no one outside of ghibli gives a fuck about realism when it comes to animating planes. It's sad.
>>139193503
Go home, Ivan.
X-32 is best girl
>>139196698
Yeah, damn shame. Lockheed though are masters of the political bribing and DOD contract scoring game, Northrop just wasn't on the same level at all.
>>139196996
Nagase a cute. CUTE.
>>139196837
>Not all problems can be solved with a smile.
;_;
The dream was too happy; it's reality that's the nightmare.
>>139185585
>Ace Combat 7
YES YES YES
>The actual footage
Um, okay I guess? At least the series is not dead?
>>139197378
Yeah the trailer is shitty but that won't represent the game. Infinity was their testing ground and we'll soon be back to the good old days.
>>139179809
Not modern jets but still interesting
>>139197474
Let's sit and wait for more shit about the game.
We need an OVA or series based on "Only old men are going to battle". And let Yasuhiko Yoshikazu make the character designs.
>>139197566
except for the dogfights were literally retarded
Why is F-14 D so best girl?
>>139197792
Bf109s diving on us? Just hover in a circle with our tiltrotors and fire handguns and rifles at them.
I lost brain cells watching this.
>>139195559
>Black Widow II never
;_;
>>139197566
OH GOD NINA VIENTO
>>139179809
Yukikaze was such a meme back in the day but now it's almost totally forgotten.
>>139194593
ecm suite as well
>>139188052
You can see the corresponding loss of velocity by pulling these thrust vectory maneuvers though because air.
You see none of that in the chink cartoon clip.
Out of the way plebs, best bomber coming through.
>>139199896
What fish is this?
who /fighter_pilot/ here?
>>139200261
Not you
>>139200261
Literally nobody.
>>139179931
>sexy athletic fighter girls
>big oppai bomber girls
>cute copter lolis
>classy prop plane girls
>pilots are depicted as being tucked into their panties or cleavage
>cute plane girls doing cute things
>occasional cuts to the reality of war, including plane wreckage/debris
Not really my thing, but I can see a market for it.
>>139181444
>yfw Chopper
Best plane coming through.
>>139200261
I'm a virtual autist.
>>139200261
>>139200575
This. Any Chairforce on /a/ are likely to be maintenance or absolute nonners.
>>139200363
just because I fly tankers doesn't mean I cant dream
>>139197566
>Not modern
>Nina viento
>Spanish name
>mexican
Maybe those are modern in Mexico?
>>139201256
>tankers
Please tell me you fly a KC-10 and not a toy KC-135.
>>139201496
That always struck me as odd. Why did that anime have so many characters with Hispanic names in it?
>>139197566
I watched the movie and I'm mad as fuck. Why couldn't the princess end up with him ;_;
>>139200085
XB-70. Also did this really cool trick.
>>139199896
Saw the real thing 2014
They moved it to a new hangar though and will try to go back soon
also had a YF-23 right under it, thing is huge.
>>139198161
>The YF-23 was less agile then the YF-22, but faster and stealthier
>YF-22 selected over YF-23, because
>>"The Lockheed and Pratt & Whitney designs were considered lower risks, and were considered to have more effective program management."
>"The USAF originally envisioned ordering 750 ATFs at a cost of $26.2 billion, with production beginning in 1994. The 1990 Major Aircraft Review led by Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney reduced this to 648 aircraft beginning in 1996. By 1997, funding instability had further cut the total to 339, which was again reduced to 277 F-22s by 2003. In 2004, the Department of Defense (DoD) further reduced this to 183 operational aircraft, despite the USAF's preference for 381."
>>"The YF-22 was also seen as more adaptable to the Navy's NATF"
>by 1992 the U.S. Navy had abandoned NATF
BRAVO US GOVERNMENT
>>139199896
it was the best till a starfighter crashed it out of the skies
>ctrl-f "Last Exile"
>nothing
I'm somewhat disappointed /a/, even if the thread has mostly focused on high performance jet fighters. Though it unapologetically used some magic physics I think it still ended up being one of the better combat-pilot-focused anime ever made. For most of the fighting the only real thing their special flight system did vs a WWI fighter was allow them longer range and VTOL, it didn't actually really change anything in terms of performance. I think it was one of the only ones I've seen that actually even touched on the reality of g-force problems in dogfighting. In fact late-war WWII fighters would definitely outperform the vanships tactically under many conditions, so I think it still counts as an interesting air battle anime.
>>139182203
Great taste.
>>139201921
Maybe the Japanese have an easier time saying hispanic names.
>>139180583
Jesus Christ, is that a shot from the actual anime? It looks like a videogame from the mid-2000s.
3D CGI is a fucking plague.
F-14 > *
>>139203227
>pixiv filename
Do you even think before you post?
>>139203227
Honestly it wasn't particularly offensive in motion, I've seen way, way, WAY worse cgi. Regardless though, like it or not anime is a commercial production and budgets are a reality for almost anything produced, 3DCGI plays a role in that. Using it for vehicles is actually probably the best that can be hoped for in general, way less cringe then with people.
>>139193503
>subtle liberator face
>>139180355
>tfw fantasy planes
I just want the real deal...
>>139181478
>>139181504
"ASAP" would be the answer I want to hear, but "never, fuck off" is actually what we may get.
>>139181577
Oh, THIS is why I loved Sky Crawlers. That heavy breath under the mask. That first person cockpit view.
I'd have enjoyed more plane action in Gate, watching the Phantom IIs fucking up the palace or shooting Sidewinders at dragons was fun.
>>139192185
Ace CombatxStrike Witches
WHY DO YOU FUCKERS MAKE ME SUFFER LIKE THAT
IT IS LIKE NOT HAVING TO EAT FOR A WEEK AND SOME ASSHOLE GIVES YOU A TINY PIECE OF YOUR FAVORITE MEAL
;_;
>>139193101
Women are beautiful, planes are beautiful too, it only makes sense to use 'she' when something reminds us of something beautiful.
>>139194644
>Kancolle made mecha musume popular.
/k/, stop being so fucking new. It's physically painful to read what you type sometimes. Especially about things that are older hat than your physical existence.Anyone else in here also like Sky Girls?
>>139198358
All the fans are either on /m/ or waiting for the third book to get translated, which is fairly likely to happen sometime around when the abortion of a hollywood movie is released.
Assuming the hollywood shitpile hasn't been canned, of course, fuck if I'm keeping up with the news on it.
>>139194528
How is buddy so fashionable?
>>139179809
3rd Aerial Girls Squad
>>139179809
OK so check this
>present day US naval fleet(with carrier, jets and shit) gets transported into an alternate timeline >it's 1955 and the Nazis has conquered the entire world
>they now have to unite with the resistance to take down the 3rd Reich
>>139206462
i've an erection
>>139187648
in space vacuum
>>139188017
I think you've got brain damage.
>>139206838
>naval fleet remembers how fucking retarded politics were by 2016
>they decided "GAS THE JEWS, MUDSLIMES ARE NEXT"
>their world by 2016 is a space-faring utopia
>>139194379
that seems like it would only be more stressful than a barrel roll
>>139207588
go back to pol
>>139179809
>slav shit
>>139206838
>he thinks they can defeat the nazi kek
>>139208485
wats pol?
>>139208668
a place were angst teenagers are sent to
Anyone remember this anime?
>>139181744
> F-4s taking off that close to each other
Well I suppose animators don't know much about wingtip vortices.
>>139186245
The control stick looks like a penis
>>139208753
Vaguely. I remember it was shitty.
>>139205812
he said popular, not original
>>139209007
Where can I get more of this manga translated?
>>139205812
I liked Sky Girls toobut not enough to finish it.
>>139210332
http://imgur.com/a/0I00D#0
>>139181744
SAVE THE FURRIES NIPPON BANZAI
>>139182195
are you a mod or a janitor?
>>139210856
SUFFER NOT THE FURRY TO LIVE~DESU
I want to fuck Pixy
TFW this will be called AK-28 Cheburashka in anime
Why Hollywood doesn't make another Top Gun?
>>139210712
Thanks a lot.
Kek, who is /k/ enough to get this reference?
>>139200617
>classy prop plane ara aras
fixd and id hit that
>>139214056
>Corsair ara ara
>>139213959
The loss of one of two massively expensive Mach 3 strategic bombers... sad day.
>>139214229
The Corsair is a big plane.
>>139214402
F-for you.
>>139214474
cute girls planes X Bane doujins when?
>>139179809
At this point hopefully never again.
CGI vehicles always look execrable.
Plus you'd get another Stratos 4, not another Area 88.
>>139214327
I really hope they don't make a strip about the tragic death of Buran-chan burried;_;
>>139183027
What you expected is basically exactly what you got. It was shit.
Too much girls, nowhere near enough planes.
t. /k/
>>139213959
>a little careless
>>139201989
>>139189030
60s-70s jets > props = early jets > literally anything > modern jets
>>139215595
Biplane props and their incredible turn radius > all
>>139193925
i still feel jewed by this fucking thing
>F-4s, F-14s! Yay!
>Within the first episode they're flying stupid looking fictional craft
>>139181744
What show is this? Im guessing its a military focused anime?
>>139195167
>if the fighter pilot is still a cute girl (or woman).
why there will never be a good aviation anime again.
this is the market.
>>139215742
>not having a 1970s jet biplane
>not having the slowest mass produced jet in the world
>>139203132
have some more F-4's
>>139214229
Corsair is best girl 2bh
>>139215930
gate.
JSDF commercial in a fantasy world - the anime.
But its worth watching
>>139181444
>PS2 is broken
>PCSX2 still can't emulate AC games properly
>>139217200
what do you mean can't
>>139217200
>mfw I've already completely beaten the three games at least thrice
Using frameskip to play at 30 fps is a small price compared to how good these fucking games are.
WAR THUNDER ANIME WHEN?!
>>139213649
I thought they were.With F-35sdid that die on the vine?
>>139217200
PS2s are like $40 used now, just get another one for less than the cost of a modern game.
>>139186101
Did you just say Rally Vincent's body?!!
FUCKING PICKED UP!
>>139217411
Please no. War Thunder is fucking trash.
>>139180578
I'm surprised Bamco hasn't tried to force ufoTABLE or someone to make an anime out of this yet
>sleep knowing that the thread will likely die and will take a while to be reborn again
>its still alive
I love you /a/ces
>>139217411
War Thunder ranks among the worst titles I've ever played.
>>139217528
They are, with our favorite crazy Scientologist being the mentor figure. Don't have an ETA, but it's with drones and shit. Bleh.
>>139217411
>War Tumblr
Fixed that for you.Fuck that company, bunch of greedy vodnik assholes.
>>139216865
Oh really?
For some reason I continually ignored threads about it because I was to lazy to see what it was about
>>139217652
>>139217575
Why? I'ven't played it much because of the stupid grind, It's not like DCS-world, but I think the balance of realism x arcade for the historical battles were pretty good. Too bad organizing a proper mach is pretty difficult.
>>139217766
>but I think the balance of realism x arcade for the historical battles were pretty good
And then once you're shot down you're in for a long wait because you can't respawn.
Or you can play arcade, where having a mouse actually puts you at an advantage over someone with a stick.
Then there's the fucking grind. Or the retarded tiering system.
>>139217766
I'll admit, it did a good job bridging the gap between the hardcore flight-sim autist and average consumer with mouseaim, but everything they've done since patch 1.37 (the patch that increased grind by tenfold) has been detrimental to the overall game's enjoyment. They're business model is "hurr let's add a bunch of random useless meme vehicles without actually improving the core gameplay and crippling issues". It's just 1 step forward and 4 steps back at this point.
t. 2000+ hours since 2012
>>139217735
>but it's with drones and shit. Bleh.
Macross Plus a drone as a key part and it was good. Hell, Macross Plus definitely qualifies as an "anime about combat pilots" period, it was directly centered around two competing combat aces and their interactions in a thinly veiled futuristic yf-22 vs yf-23 faceoff.
>>139216160
The aerodynamics of this made me cringe. I would be surprised if anyone did wind tunnel testing on it before production.
Besides being needlessly thick, the spacing for supports for the 2nd wing create an effective cross section are much larger than the actual area.
tldr: this plane has the aerodynamics of a sideways ping pong table.source: mechanical engineer
>>139217946
their* my bad
>>139217992
the wing supports are chemical tanks (it's a cropduster that the soviets insisted be jet powered for some reason), hence their width.
why they took that route instead of putting tanks in the back or something i have no idea.
>>139217992
Eh, it was a Soviet ordered agricultural plane (cropduster basically) that they told the Poles to make for them. And they added a bunch of retarded requirements, like absolutely insisting it HAD to be a jet no matter what. As a cropduster being very slow and carrying big chemical tanks is the whole point, but demanding a jet engine just because "jets are cool lol" in a place it made no sense naturally was complete uneconomical. They could have done a lot better just using the latest prop stuff. Top speed was like 120 mph IIRC.
Not poland's fault though, jet is what USSR high command wanted and that's what they got. Frankly I think they did a pretty good job getting something semi-functional together at all given the ludicrously conflicting requirements, shoestring budget, and schedule with "or else off to the gulags" hanging over their heads.
>>139214056
>>139214229
>not wanting a bratty attack chopper loli
>not wanting a QT androgynous Osprey
>>139215930
Gate
Kill Wyvern.
>>139216160
>>139218334
We used different agricultural planes though. Somebody had his personal fun for budget money as always.
>>139187334
>f22 is cg
>f4 is standard
mmk.
>>139218739
>We used different agricultural planes though.
Who's "we"? I mean, before and after everyone just used the good 'ol an-2r, designed in 1946 and still worked. The M-15 was supposed to be an improvement but it was pretty shit and I think only the ussr ever used the thing in the end, but still they made nearly 200 of the fuckers. That's a lot less then thousands originally planned when they thought it'd be good but it wasn't a oneoff either.
>Somebody had his personal fun for budget money as always.
More like idiot bureaucrats insulated from actual engineering who forced a top down rule-of-cool onto the hapless folks below. Which regrettably has happened an awful lot in the last few decades in the US as well.
>>139219081
>>139218334
pic related, the old '46 workhorse the monstrosity was supposed to make obsolete.
>>139219081
'We' means my nation.
>>139219271
Right but what's that, poland? Poland was only in charge of designing and making them they weren't dumb enough to use them too. Sorry if you thought I was implying otherwise.
>>139219133
What a comfy looking plane.
>>139193029
It's already years past due and grossly overbudget. You can't fix what is inherently broken no matter how much money you squander on it.
>>139219341
The other one you've mentioned. Nevermind, I'm not an expert. I've just seen >>139219133 a lot and only them.
>>139193925
Source?
>>139219667
Have you never seen a plane landing in strong winds?
>>139219589
Israeli Defence Force.
>>139219813
looks like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b43lAoovqd8
>tfw no gender reversed Catch 22 anime
>Pops background episode
>>139206462
As soon as they started this arc, I wanted this to be a real anime
>>139219949
This is a blueboard you degenerate fuck.
>>139186101
That's some unholy combination that seems like it was specifically designed to entice my boner
>>139219949
What a slut.
>>139216861
>posting Corsair without her cowling covers
How could you be so inconsiderate?
>>139180355
>ace combat anime
you mean The Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces
>>139221087
Sorry.
>>139196996
Blaze got to fuck Nagase and it's not fair.
>>139221246
>>139219133
>so slow a helicopter could shoot it down
cute
>yfw this slow son of a bitch got a maneuver kill on a jet during the Korean War
>>139179809
HEY BUDDY
>>139188162
I hate my military; if the bomber mafia weren't already dead I'd kill 'em myself!
>>139221693
Whoever was on the jet. He deserves it.
>>139221693
Don't forget the bomber one flown by women.
>>139200261
I'm a PPL and sat in a Raptor once does that count?
>>139216023
Hey, awesome cute girls are fine and a staple of /m/. Imagine Noa here in a fixed-wing.
>>139222141
The fact that you don't give a single shit about the plane and are focused completely on the girl is a pretty damn good indication that you're what makes the modern otaku market so cancerous.
>>139214561
>>139214474
>>139221405
No domestic violence please fighter-tans are for loving.
>>139222224
I'm a different anon, I'm just suggesting that you could have a cute girl in the lead without sacrificing the rest of the show. I cited an example a classic mecha lead to support my claim that it can work. Since you haven't suggested what role the pilot would be filling or what they'd be fighting there's no point suggesting an aircraft.
>>139222271
>what matters is our plane
you had one job anon
>>139222141
mecha and modern fighter jets are different things.
mecha are imaginary so it doesn't trigger me to see them piloted by 14 year olds, or have people refer to them as robots WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY BIOLOGICAL AND THE GUY'S MOTHER GODDAMN PAY ATTENTION YOU FUCKS
>>139222469
>you're a big jet
>>139208753
NINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>139221693
Man was pretty hilarious hearing pilots talk about what bastards those things were during night engagements. Against the radars of the time they were basically stealth aircraft because they were just wood and cloth and has practically no radar echo, plus they were so fucking slow (like ~70mph cruise, 95-100mph top speed) and flew so low that they were literally below the stall speed of basically everything else in the air which made them a nightmare to actually try to engage.
>>139221961
Pretty sure it was an F-94 and it literally stalled out and ran right into the thing. Declassified report from 1952:
>http://www.history.navy.mil/content/dam/nhhc/research/histories/naval-aviation/Naval%20Aviation's%20Involvement%20in%20the%20Korean%20War/PDF's/caug52-24.pdf
See page 3. I'm not sure if that's the one other anon was talking about though. Still pretty amusing how such a rinky dink thing was still being a nuisance against tech literally orders of magnitude more advanced.
YOUR PLANEFU IS A SHIT
>>139222870
Say that to my face, fucker, not online and see what happens!
>>139222640
That's why I chose that example. She's a girl that grew up loving robots and it was her dream to pilot one, so she made it her goal in life and ended up a police mecha pilot by the time she hit 21. She didn't fall into a prototype's cockpit that crashed at her school and she isn't the daughter of the woman that became one with it. She worked hard and got where she wanted to, which is something you'd hope to see in a military pilot too.
>>139223236
>She's a girl that grew up loving robots and it was her dream to pilot one, so she made it her goal in life and ended up a police mecha pilot by the time she hit 21. She didn't fall into a prototype's cockpit that crashed at her school and she isn't the daughter of the woman that became one with it. She worked hard and got where she wanted to, which is something you'd hope to see in a military pilot too.
that's a great in-story justification, but you just know that in any newly produced fighter jet show the real world justification for a female lead is purely fiscal and there'd definitely be a greater % of female pilots (in far more prominance) than is warranted.
it's not that i hate females or something - Area 88 had female kitori - just that they'd definitely be put in more for fanservice, waifuism and generally broader appeal, all of which detract from what actually interests me (planes).
plus female leads generally take online discussion away from "could a su-27 really do that move" or "why did they bomb that bridge when the tanks could still go around the other way?" to "i'd like to air-to-air re fuel with her if u kno what i mean ;)"
>>139223236
Question: Why do we need to ever see a pilot?
>>139223438
I entirely get what you're saying, but the people going for the waifu element were never going to be contributing to /ak/ discussion anyway.
>>139223633
Because you'll end up with a very boring show without it. You need context and investment for the action to matter.
>>139205872
I actually liked Edge of Tomorrow (until the shitty ending) but it didn't do well enough domestically.
Even with Cruise and his Scientology guys fronting a lot of the money studios still want a cut.
If these things aren't hits Cruise and friends fronting cash actually diminishes studio interest because they can't really make money on 1/5th of gross when gross is already razor thin.
There hasn't been news for almost 2 years, I'm hopeful its dead.
>>139206838
If the Nazi's have even primitive nukes the carrier group of that era can't pull it off. For sure.
>>139223754
>Because you'll end up with a very boring show without it. You need context and investment for the action to matter.
Why do you need to see a character to have context and be invested?
>>139224171
I have such mixed feelings, I'd love for it to be dead and never hear about it again, but I really want the trilogy translated and a movie would be the best shot at having that happen.
>>139224211
>nuking a fleet
laughingcrossroads.tiff
>>139224258
Different anon here, responding to your first reply. I think I'm on the same boat as you, in that I too think it's an interesting concept when a pilot isn't visibly shown. I find that it opens more to the imagination, and the "character" is translated through the aircraft he/she pilots.
Now it's definitely more difficult to pull off without it being a boring and without investment, as the other anon mentioned - but I think it's an interesting idea when done properly.
>>139224297
I don't know what you mean. The direct hit sank and we're talking a single carrier.
>>139224446
It's a very different thing when you're talking about a self-insert like Mobius 1 or Blaze.
>>139224503
A CBG is a lot more than just a single carrier.
>>139224531
True, but I'm not specifically talking about those types of characters.
>>139191402
But Pacific aerial combat in WW2 was no contest.
The japanese had one or two decent planes and no decent pilots.
I mean the pushers were cool as shit, but let's not kid ourselves.
>There will never be a Sea Raptor.
Why even live /a/?
>>139224583
Same point stands. They would lose the carrier in a direct hit.
If anything I'd assume a victorious Third Reich would have missile systems more capable than their main timeline counterparts. Guided SAM's were already the German holy grail before the war was even over. They would've kept up the flow of r/d on it.
Always good to see an /a/ce combat discussion.
Can you hear the music?
>>139224446
Why not just style it (like part of AC0's framing) as a documentary?
That way you've got an excuse to avoid showing the main characters while retaining the ability to have interviews with others if you want to.
>>139215340
it should be more like Mriya leaving Buran-chan at some daycare but for some reason never coming back to pick her up
>>139225251
Yep that works too, I liked the sense of "finality" in seeing the aces you defeated many years ago, recalling back about you in fear and respect. Internal monologue also works if you don't want your directly interacting with other characters. I think as long as dialogue is involved even if the character isn't visibly shown, it can be pulled off. I'm not just limiting it to the AC series.
>>139225121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJjcCGGv4HE&index=4&list=PL23A635021128F21F
>>139216160
>>139218334
I just read up on this plane the other day, what a coincidence.
I love it - it's very reminiscent of the Gerry Anderson school of design, very Thunderbirds-esque.
>>139221693
>>139222091
Night Witches anime when?
>>139194059
>>139194593
this kills the isis.jpeg
I sure hope MiG is still alive. Fucking Sukhoi lobbying!
>>139226989
>Fucking Sukhoi lobbying!
isn't Sukhoi the one in worst financial shape?
>>139225251
Well, now i have an image of how AC0 anime would be. Just adapt it directly as a documentary, it works. Each episode should be a mission each.
>>139227609
Well, yeah, Russia in general is in shitty financial shape. The Sukhoi is falling behind schedule apparently, as are a lot of other military projects. Dick waving between the big boys aside, war is simply too expensive to pour research bux into when all you're doing is performing strafing runs on poorly equipped kebabs.
>>139228108
Well, Sukhoi clearly treated Putin`s Syrian Adventure⢠as a showcase for 34s and it worked out great for him, orders are coming. Now it`s Mil/Kamov turn.
Considering financial side, nope. Pogosyan is literally heading UAC and there is no fucking way he`s letting his baby starve. I just want everybody else to have a slice of the pie.;_;
>>139180578
The fuck? No, Ace Combat is heavily influenced by Hollywood shit. The only one that's remotely "anime" is AC3.
>>139229031
The plot is 100% mecha anime. The rookie with no record leading a country to victory, the ideology driven ace pilot/rival, the focus on character drama rather than the war itself, the crazy ass sci-fi super weapons. Hell, it's more mecha anime than Armored Core.
>>139229175
You're saying this like anime invented this shit.
AC1, 2, 4, Zero, all feel like they could have been American productions.
5 is borderline because of how contrived the plot is, and 3 is straight anime with Production I.G. animation.
>>139229277
>You're saying this like anime invented this shit.
No, but they are very common tropes in 'real' mecha anime. Enough that they make up a good deal of the genre's identity. Ace Combat, especially the trinity, emulates a lot of these elements.
Ironically, Electrosphere was the least anime despite having animated cut-scenes; it identified itself more with what was contemporary sci-fi in the west at the time.
>>139229393
AC is 'anime' in the same way that MGS is. It's clearly cut from the same cultural cloth.
>>139229618
Yes, it's crazy, almost like the US and Japan have a lot of cross-cultural exchange for some bizarre reason.
>>139219979
Good thing pilots have huge brass balls.
>>139229618
So, "not really" and "very" at the same time. I guess it is right.
I like how these threads are a combination of /a/, /k/, and /v/ but with minimal shitposting.
where can I learn about planes? military planes especially? got any good youtube stuff to share?
>>139181777
CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAY
CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAY
WHEN YA SHOVED IT IN MY FACE
If you need air superiority, use magical girls.
>>139225251
>>139225690
>>139227857
each mission is an episode, but the ace battles are flashbacks from the enemy point of view with internal monologue and narration
>>139179809
>what is macross series
>>139229852
For slavshitbestplanes, I recommend watching Wings of Russia
>>139230720
>>139229852
And then you can mindfuck yourself properly on Karlo Copp. EM emissions fucking diagrams galore.
Or is it Carlo Kopp?