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Previous Thread:
>>139028297
Mods please do your job and ban the spammer.
Thanks.
なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！
As long as you never give up and you keep pushing to better yourself, you'll make it no matter what. You CAN learn Japanese!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
I think it's easiest to teach by example. My dad didn't tell us to work hard; we just saw how hard he worked. I know I have shortcomings - like a short fuse - but I've learned you can't come home from a long day of work and snap at the kids.
Can we contact the mods somehow? I feel like this won't stop until they give a clear decision. If that kills the threads, then so be it.
Reminder that you'll surely become fluent!
>>139053017
Pretty decent.
>>139053042
IRC, and it won't kill the thread.
>>139053042
Someone said last thread
>Message I_AM_ABIB on Rizon, he is currently online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tUzlriGDI
無茶するな
楽しいことだけやれ
>Dekinai Japanese Thread
Reposting this. I'll be going to bed soon so don't expect a reply from me, though I'll check tomorrow if there's any suggestions or comments.
/////////////////////////////
So, I finally got around to putting those last touches on the guide and finishing things up.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H8lw5gnep7B_uZAbHLfZPWxJlzpykP5H901y6xEYVsk/edit?usp=sharing
It's a more compact version of the old guide, with a more extensive section regarding the various methods to learn Kanji. The resources have been moved to a separate document.
I also added some things to the FAQ and misc sections, so please take a look at those.
Please let me know what you think.
Unless there's some kind of overwhelming disapproval, I'll be replacing the current guide with this new version sometime in the next few days.
Happy learning.
>>139053124
Thanks anon.
>>139053042
>even the complaints about the spamfag are reposts
I remember responding to this same sentance this morning.
Am I in hell right now?
日本語でお話をしよう！初心者でも歓迎だぜ！
今期一番気に入ったアニメは？自分はこのすばかな。アクア様に罵倒されたい
>>139053153
Thank you for having me.
>>139053054
Source?
元オランダ代表のヨハン・クライフ氏が24日に死去した。68歳だった。英『デイリー・メール』など海外メディアが報じている。
昨年10月に肺がんを患っていることが明らかにしていたクライフ氏。現役時代からヘビースモーカーだったという同氏は、バルサ監督時の1991年に心筋梗塞のため倒れ、手術で一命を取り留めたことがあった。
クライフ氏はアヤックスやバルセロナ、オランダ代表などで活躍し、3度のバロンドールを受賞するなどサッカー史上最高の選手の一人と称えられている。指導者としても1988年から96年までバルセロナを率い、「ドリームチーム」と呼ばれる一時代を築いた。
>>139053124
My apologies, I just noticed that I forgot to attach a cute image.
韓国料理が好き
>>139053205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSpHh4V0O4Y
The "top 10" videos arn't really too useful, though I guess for listening comprehention they are. Risa is just so fucking cute though.My name is Luke and in the Star Wars episode there is a clip of her saying "Luke is a cool name" and "Risa Luke!" which I am considering making my alarm sound
>>139053160
つまんねぇから遠慮しておこうぜ
>>139053299
Tae Kim, please.
存分に召し上がれなのん
おにいちゃん
>>139053124
>guide is written by a German-speaking ESL
>contains his sociopolitical opinions on government-paid education
>and random manga pages for no reason
>the formatting, writing and advice is all worse than the old guide
No thanks, I vote we keep the old guide.
>>139053299
まあ衛生面の問題をクリアするなら悪くはないが
日本で食うor自作なら安心できるし
味はおいしいと思う。
韓国巻き寿司とか大好き。
>>139053376
Can you kill yourself with that rock please?
>>139053478
ラーメン板追い出されてこっちで乱立ですか…
>>139053384
If you have a complaint, send it via the form. Bitching about it on the thread isn't going to get very far.
I don't really understand why you're so against it, but gather your thoughts into a coherent form and explain it over there. If the writing/advice for example is really worse, try to work to make it better.
>>139053478
韓国で食うのはほんとにヤバいのかな？
それなら韓国人がバタバタ死んでる気がするんだよね。
>>139053320
>Risa is just so fucking cute though.
That's why i asked.
>>139053533
>>139053478
>>139053376
Now we are being spammed from ふたば posts?
http://dat.2chan.net/t/res/275004.htm
>>139053384
>random manga pages for no reason
there's one page at the bottom, if you can't tell what it's for you're either lacking in humor or you don't know any Japanese
>sociopolitical opinions on government-paid education
I'm not really sure where you're seeing that in the guide.
Nothing to contend on the other points.
>>139053439
Please learn to read. I explained multiple times why I am against wanikani. Not to mention that I even explain it in the guide.
>>139053538
My god you are fucking narcissistic.
The guide was written entirely by other people and the site was created by other people, yet you have the nerve to try and act like some authority then piss your pants when someone doesn't agree with you.
Your guide is shit.
The other one is better.
It doesn't need to be changed, deal with it.
>>139053654
I'm over here anon (>>139053635)
>>139053538
>send it via the form
The feedback form is more for site and CoR stuff. I don't know if guide-anon looks at the feedback page much. Sending him an email or responding here would be much more effective. I don't really see what the other anon is on about though, I think the new one is an improvement.
I remember some anon mentioning once that he had some Jap website he used to check how long a VN was at native reading speed. Does anyone remember that site, or anything like it? The time isn't listed on vndb.
大相撲の大関琴奨菊（佐渡ヶ嶽部屋）が４日、連覇がかかる３月の春場所に向け、稽古を再開した。
日本出身力士として１０年ぶりに賜杯を抱いた初場所が終わって１０日余り。結婚披露宴など多忙な時間を過ごしたが、部屋の朝稽古に続き、午後には千葉競輪場で嘉風や競輪選手らとの合同練習も行った。自転車で５００メートルの走路を６周走ったほか、器具によるトレーニングも。大関は「１５日間戦える持久力をつけるのが目的」と説明し、「普段通りにやるべきことをやっていきたい」と、自然体で綱取りに挑む決意を語った。
読売新聞 2016年02月04日 18時54分
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/20160204-OYT1T50133.html
>>139053654
>My god you are fucking narcissistic.
You're literally projecting that people have been calling you a narcissist onto the nicest active identifiable member of DJT.
You should honestly consider killing yourself.
>>139053738
Erogamescape. It's basically the JP vndb.
>>139053737
>>139053694
Samefag harder.
Get over yourself.
The guide is good enough as it is and you have nothing to contribute to the thread with.
Get a trip.
>>139053538
There's no way to fix fundamentally poor writing. Anything written by an ESL sounds unnatural and of low quality. Because they haven't an innate understanding of the language from a very young age, their knowledge is purely artificial and can never give the same, clean feel of naturally written prose. The only solution is to have a native speaker rewrite it from scratch.
>>139053654
>>139053694
>who do you think you are? listen to my opinion, my opinion is supreme, fuck you, do it my way or leave
is anyone here right now cool? can i get a head count on all the cool people. reply @ me ill talk to you about anything unrelated to the spam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urXeHRcYkhg
>>139053752
>onto the nicest active identifiable member of DJT.
Fuck off samefag.
>>139053791
Thanks, I'll check it out.
>>139053837
>waa people aren't praising my shitty overly opinionated version of the guide which hasn't had any real issue for years.
Get over yourself, samefag.
>>139053879
I don't get why you're being so hostile and assuming anyone who doesn't hate the new guide is a samefag. Unless you're just shitposting at this point to derail the thread. Guide anon is really friendly.
>>139053879
Joke's on you, guide-kun would never tell anyone to kill themselves.
>>139053741
他の件で探し物してた時に拾った別画像。
ブランドや車種は解りますかね？
裸足かって思ったけど、本当に裸足とは。
トラックの舗装で擦り傷が出来そうで、見ているコッチが痛いよｗ
千葉県には、千葉と松戸と、そんなに距離も離れてなさそうだけど。
二つも競輪場があるのですね。
>>139053791
It seems to be down. Or do they block non-jap IPs or something?
>>139053937
>Guide anon is really friendly.
Get over your ego, guide-kun.
You didn't even write it, you just took over what a redditor already wrote.
>>139053654
This guy thinks everyone anon is the guide curator? It wasn't him that posted it.
Either calm down, or funnel that energy into something productive dude. Like suggesting constructive ways of improving what you think is wrong with the guide or even your studies.
>>139053738
http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=VN/Eroge_Script_sizes
This is sort of related, script sizes. Not exactly reading times though.
>>139053327
>>139053160
>ぜ
>ねぇ
Are you fucking 12?
>>139053989
若手力士の移動手段はママチャリだわな
ホイールがすぐダメになるらしいが…
>>139054072
4chan is an 18+ website
>>139054072
だめだな
ぜんぜんだめだねぇぇええええーー！！！
>>139054015
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/
If that's not working, then your IP range is probably blocked, you can either use a VPN or try to get in contact with the guy who runs it and ask him to unblock it since he does that from time to time.
>>139054037
I don't know why you assume everyone who has a differing opinion is guide anon. No matter how much you say it it's not suddenly going to become true. I'm not him.
>>139054067
>samefagging this desperately
>>139053808
>>139053837
I'd rather not have people start a fight over me, but if you have a problem with the new guide I'm glad to hear it.
I'd also be glad if you actually stated what the problem was rather than shouting out "samefag" and telling me "the old guide was better" because that doesn't really get us anywhere.
>>139053809
I actually grew up to English speaking parents in a German speaking country. While I don't deny that my prose may not be that amazing, this doesn't have anything to do with my suggested lack of exposure to the English language.
>>139054169
>I'm not him.
No one else is buying and we don't want your new guide when the old one is perfectly fine. Stop trying to inject your ego into the actual work other anons have made, faget.
>>139054189
dont worry dude the mean people are just extra mean today due to whatever gay shit
>>139054189
Samefag-spammer is probably last thread's shitposter-kun, I would just ignore him.
>>139054220
Man, it's times like this that poster IDs would be nice on DJT. But I'm sure people as delusional as you would just say that the person has 5 phones or something.
>>139054067
>http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=VN/Eroge_Script_sizes
Isn't listed unfortunately.
>>139054169
Guess it's blocked then. You couldn't be awesome and check it for me could you? It's 鉄と裸
>>139054189
Stop trying to act all innocent you narcissist.
The reasons why your opinionated piece of shit is unwanted have already been stated. Scroll up.
答えが2016になる式を作れ
例
2016 = 1 + 2 + 3 + ... + 63
おにいちゃん
>>139054189
The only problem with your english is that your version of academic english is an outdated branch. On my personal ranking of variants of academic english, your type is right in the middle:
1) Modern american-australian-NZ first language academic english
2) Modern british academic english
3) 1940s-1980s trans-european academic english (including british)
4) Timeless asian ESL academic english
5) 1950s american pseudo-victorian academic english
>>139054288
i want it so that cancels out you not wanting it
>>139054345
2016 = 3³+4³+5³+6³+7³+8³+9³
>>139054285
Not enough people have put time data for there to display a number on the main game page. There needs to be a certain number of people who put their playtime for the data to be considered reliable enough to start displaying on the main page next to average score and stuff. Here's the data for people that did put it, though.
>>139054345
2×（0-1＋6）
4桁の数字はみんな10にしたくならないか？
>>139053160
今日友達と一緒に僕だけがいない街を終わらせた。面白かったけどエンディングは拍子抜けだと思った。何よりジョジョを楽しみにしている。今期のアニメについては。。。一番気に入ったのは暗殺教室かな？
>>139054463
>>139054420
>7h
ehehe, bit faster than me
Thanks for the help
>>139054376
Samefaggotry doesn't apply.
>>139054345
数学超ゲイなんだよ
俺はいい
>>139054565
Jamal didn't write the guide though
>>139054288
I saw those, and answered to them (see here >>139053635).
I don't care if you think that I'm a narcissistic piece of shit or whatever, I'm glad about feedback on the guide, but all I've seen so far (apart from the original post which you still haven't bothered replying to) all I see is the assertion that the old guide is better and that I'm a piece of shit. If you'd bring forward some proper argument instead of one-sentence greentext and ad hominems I'd be glad to have a discussion with you.
>>139054242
>>139054270
Cheers. I've been here long enough to get used to bad shitposting so I don't really mind that part. Though I'm glad to see that most people are in favor of the new version.
>>139054357
Cheers. Where can I read more about this (and possibly improve my writing)?
>>139054565
much like your posting
シリアのパルミラは、昔、東洋と西洋の貿易をする人が通った場所でした
東洋と西洋の貿易をする人
Does this mean people who trade between the east and west,
OR
People who trade, from the east and the west.
(Traders from the east and west)
>>139054420
Do Japanese people not listen to the voice acting at all or something? There's no way they could get the kind of playtimes I'm seeing on this site without zooming through all the text, I'm pretty sure the sum voice acting time alone is larger than their average times.
>>139054719
i mean theres no reason to listen to lines that you read in less than a second sometimes
im pretty all over the place with that kind of habit sometimes i want to hear them talk sometimes im just all ksk
>>139054676
Don't bother, it's the same faggot who's been spamming. He probably did something on the old guide you did not keep and he's also asspained about it
>>139054676
>Where can I read more about this (and possibly improve my writing)?
Nowhere. Nobody documents different varieties of academic english and I had to make those up from memory for the sake of writing up the post. They primarily differ in how they use different prepositions (a lot like how american and british english differ on "different than" and "different from") and the patterns that are used for conjunctions. If you see "for" used as "because", for example, it's probably one of the bottom two categories.
By far the best way to improve academic writing is to read shitloads upon shitloads of academic writing. The quality doesn't matter. Acquiring a large number of rules that accomplish the same thing will give you your own school of thought for filtering out what ones you dislike and why you dislike them. That's how people graduate from literate english to academic english; you just have to go further and further. I just happen to be some kind of autistic linguistics savant who acquires grammar patterns after only like five exposures.
>>139054708
日本語的にはどちらでもとれるけど、文脈から、明らかに前者かと思われる。シリアは西洋と東洋の通り道でしょ？
>>139054904
Thanks for the info. You're almost making me want to study linguistics again.
>>139054984
There's better pastures elsewhere, I just can't give it up because I'm autistic and obsessed.
>>139054719
Pretty much. Some skip when they finish reading, some only skip some lines, some fully listen to the voice acting of every line. Then you've gotten take into consideration their reading speed for all of the narration and unvoiced lines, etc. Lots of things can cause it to vary. Pic related is MLA for example.
>have to skip Anki today
A-am I gunna be daijoubu?
>>139055513
>Has the time to shitpost on 4chan
>Doesn't have the time to rep anki
できない。
I for one am convinced by the autist's argument. We should all stop posting here in this evil General.
>>139055582
It takes me about an hour to do one, and I have barely half that right now
Is it worth doing as much as I can? Will it even remember the cards I did if I quit halfway?
>>139055513
うん、でもかっこいい猫にならない。
>>139055656
>Will it even remember the cards I did if I quit halfway?
Yes why the fuck wouldn't it?
>>139054820
>>139055128
I see.
Actually, when I look closer:
>すみ√だけクリア。面白いんだけど長すぎて断念。優しい世界だがくどい部分も。エロが非常に充実してる。
>総プレイ時間 : 20h
So there are people who just read 1 route and then log a time and rating, screwing everyone over like the lazy douches they are.
Also, what is with these comments?
>おそらく俺は一生ペドフィリアという人種とは分かり合えないんだろうな。ロリとのエロが気持ち悪いとしか思えない。そして主人公と夏葉のキャラにイライラした。
So why did you read a lolige then? What the fuck were you expecting?
>>139055678
Because open source software generally sucks and misses basic features, but thanks for letting me know
>>139055656
>Is it worth doing as much as I can?
Will it even remember the cards I did if I quit halfway?
Yes to both. Hopefully you're already gone and doing your reps but if you aren't, get to it!
If you stop entirely for a day you're fucked, that's how I lose half a years worth of progress. Don't let it happen to you too!
>>139054708
It's just that the person who wrote this sentence has very poor Japanese ability.
>The 「を」 character, while technically pronounced as /wo/ essentially sounds like /o/ in real speech.
Does this vary depending on the words surounding it or the area of Japan or something like that? I'm sure I've heard it said as "wo" by natives before.
>>139055683
>So there are people who just read 1 route and then log a time and rating, screwing everyone over like the lazy douches they are.
That's probably the case with a lot of them. That's why I picked MLA to show an example since it only has 1 route. The closest thing it has to choices that affect play time time are the choices that let you choose whether or not to listen to the infodump.
>>139056055
if you say it with hard w youre saying it like a fuck head pretty much. as long as you dont do that youre pretty much fine
>>139056047
Man its from NHK easy news.
>>139056047
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/k10010203911000/k10010203911000.html
>>139054708
The former. It refers as a group to people that trade in whatever direction
>>139056264
>>139056289
You should know though that NHK Easy News often uses pretty awkward wording in order to avoid using "big words".
>want to learn nipples
>learn about r/learnjapanese
>this could be a useful resource of questions and answers
>see pic related
Why haven't I killed myself yet?
>>139056368
How would you state the latter?
The kanji in RTK is sorted by commonness, right?
>>139056492
>underaged ragecomic making redditfags know more japanese than you
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?Do it.
>>139056515
東洋と西洋からの貿易をする人 maybe? Don't take my word for it
>>139056528
No.
>>139056424
I dont get where this impression that big words = complicated writing.
Complicated grammar = complicated writing. You can always check words in a dictionary.
>>139056652
>>139056670
Oh well, I'm finding it pretty compelling anyway.
>>139056528
>>139056876
There is an anki deck where it is sorted by commonness, maybe use that? If not you'll need to be near the end before you reach common Kanji.
How did Nipponjins write before the importation of kanji?
>>139057012
they didn't
>>139057058
So were mangas and animes just oral tradition then?
>>139056951
All right, what's that called?
This is what I'm currently using.
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1956010956
>>139056865
Maybe you misunderstood what I'm saying. I'm saying they're complicating their writing to avoid using big words. Words that aren't complicated at all, or difficult to understand, for an adult, but are nominally advanced as they refer to grown-up subjects. NHK Easy News are targetted at like 9 year olds as well, and are adjusted to their supposed knowledge of vocabulary. This 貿易 was perhaps a bad example of this, but it definitely happens. But I'm basically paraphrasing this blog post
http://ysjapanese.wp-x.jp/2015/11/why-nhk-web-news-easy-isnt-the-ideal-learning-material/
so read that instead if you're interested.
>>139057094
manga and anime didn't really exist until the second half of last century
>>139057120
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1917095458
>>139057094
yes. they were called rakugo. it was very cheaply done because the jews hadn't introduced them to money yet
>>139057152
You don't say.
勉強はできない
助けて！
>>139057152
man last century was a pretty cool guy
>>139057152
Sorry, I meant protoanime and protomanga.
>>139056951
Learning the top 2000 kanji in order of commonness is retarded. They're all common. The order of RTK is critical to its method.
Hello my name is Alice, I am with the police.
There has been a suicide here and I am hoping you can shed some light on some details.
This was the only tab open on his computer so hopefully you guys mean something to him and you can help me.
Before he died he wrote the same message many times on the walls in his own blood. It says できない.
What did he mean by this?
>>139057618
anon was a fag he had many problems it means his life was a total failure
>>139057618
It means he was a big guy.
Is there any 外人 variant of kanji? I mean kanji that would be easier for the 外人(us) to learn? The guide doesn't have info on this.
>>139057970
Kana basically
Did anyone start off with Children reading material or TV shows?
>>139058115
But they don't have any meaning or deep significant ties to the culture.
>>139057970
Just learn 無理 and you're set.
>>139058279
Neither do gaijins.
>>139057970
You only need to know these.
>出来無い
>>139052943
Anyone have any links to a decent rip of volume 13 of ゆるゆり? The link in the CoR is dead and the rip on nyaa is dogshit.
>>139059101
download perfect dark and search there
>>139059174
I don't have access to port forwarding on this network so I can't use PD, otherwise I would.
>>139057526
RTK's idea is pretty good but imo its order is too strict. There should be more random variation. In krashen's phrasing: "You don't teach in any order." If you give things that are intelligible and interesting, /the natural order is there/.
>>139059214
PD uses UPNP if it's available. Have you tried and had it not work? You also have to manually add entrypoints to the network IIRC.
>>139059174
If there's a rip on perfect dark it's probably the same one that's on nyaa
>>139059174
>perfect dark
>tfw I'm too afraid to use it because I don't want to be forced to put cheese pizza on my PC.
>>139059268
>Have you tried and had it not work? You also have to manually add entrypoints to the network IIRC.
This is a university network limited to 4GB of data per user a year. We can't change anything.
>>139059373
Wow.
>>139059402
Americans and Europeans have no idea how good they have it.
On top of that, some other manga series are returning dead links.
>>139059472
Seeing how a ton of them are ones that were just added, it wouldn't surprise me if old CoR guy was actually the one who has been doing all of this spamming and whining and is now rage-deleting everything he has control over. I'd probably download everything you want real quick now so you can re-upload it later.
>>139059373
How's that enough for anything? I've used around 20gb in the last 5 days alone.
>>139059717
My conspiracy theory is exactly that. That this autist, new CoR-kun, and old CoR-kun are the same person. My only evidence is that old and new CoR-kun both seem to be located in Australia, and that this autist is also very passionate about old CoR-kun works, exactly like new CoR-kun was when that shit went down. They are all very knowledgable about programming as well, from what I've gathered.
Lately I haven't been at home all that much lately and been missing out on practice.
I own a smartphone for some reason, however. Any way I could transfer my anki shit to my phone and vice-versa? Is there a log-in function somewhere?
>>139059717
Oh shit, something I downloaded yesterday is gone now too. I think he really is rage deleting.
私はうとうと
お休みなさい！
>>139059810
>How's that enough for anything?
My government actively stopped a nationwide campaign by the previous government to install a fibre to the household network using arguments like people only want [first world] download [never mind upstream being vital] speeds so they can download movies illegally. The communications minister has been arguing that it would be a better idea to replace the current shitty copper network with mobile broadband towers instead.
Off topic but yeah, the situation is at least a decade behind the rest of the western world.
>>139059919
>They are all very knowledgable about programming as well, from what I've gathered.
What gave you that impression?
>>139060068
Extrapolation and a healthy dose of confirmation bias
>>139060128
Sounds like paranoia, a little.
>>139060172
I merely an unremarkable anon trying to dwelve deep into the secret arcana of DJT
>>139059919
>new CoR-kun
Nah, I'm not him, unless you're referring to someone else. I just do stuff people in feedback ask me to (usually just adding stuff to the CoR) and add requested stuff to the site like the DoJG QC / Alternate styles, manage the Rikai+Firefox+FI+ITHVNR texthooking pastebin, etc.
--
Anyways, CoR is basically fucked. 3rd time this guy has done this now, except this time we still have most of the important stuff.
If you guys have backups to any of the dead stuff, upload them to mega and send it to feedback. I'll start going through tomorrow marking the dead links / moving them to the bottom of each sheet as a "link graveyard" of sorts.
Could've been worse, but stuff like this is why the remaining contents are spread across 10-15 other people. We've likely lost most of the manga, LN, and movie tab content though.
一騎打
>>139059717
Well, that's a bit sad.
>>139060256
>3rd time this guy has done this now
Why does he still have access to anything?
I don't get why during this whole time no one bothered to make a decent backup. Aren't their people here with Eastern European type stupidly fast fibre connections and stuff? Why would it be left in the hands of someone on an Australia connection? That's like leaving a pizza with a hambeast and expecting it to be there when you come back.
DOJG DECK LINK IS DEAD
https://mega.nz/#F!HlFTiCxI!I3_D5C9_NyysiMHOfr0pkw
IT REALLY WAS HIM
HAPPENED
>>139060256
Seems like it might be worthwhile to try to get duplicate upload links (like 3 for each item) all uploaded by a different person so that no one has the power to rage-erase the files. Of course you'd have to get people to upload and submit them.
In any case a few of the ones I've checked that were deleted actually exist in the bulk collections at the top of the tab still, so we at least have those.
>>139060335
Don't need access to DJT to access a mega account.
>>139060461
>Of course you'd have to get people to upload and submit them.
So basically we're fucked?
>>139060461
And by ones I've checked I mean a few of the LNs. Didn't realize even more has gone down.
>>139060256
Oh, ok. Are you from Australia? I might've confused myself. I'm sure some prominent poster here is Australian, like old CoR-kun. Maybe it was the DOJG-deck guy, now that this >>139060458 happened.
If the link to something you wanted is dead, get this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Dark_%28P2P%29
Download it from there, check it to make sure it's legit, and upload it back up for us. Post links in the feedback section of the link in the OP.
I really don't get it then. He's even the one who made and uploaded the all-in-one learning pack? That was pretty recent. It's kind of strange that he would suddenly sperg out and go on a crusade against DJT.
>>139060529
Pretty much. Like what >>139060391 said, there are people who downloaded all of CoR, they're just too lazy to be bothered reuploading it to help out other people.
Is the CoR even necessary?
What's with the 「っつって」 bit here?
>>139060655
No, but it's *extremely* helpful.
>>139060654
I doubt more than one or two people have gone through and downloaded every single link. Even something as well known as Madokami can't get people to download backups of it.
>>139060720
If that is the case then why did only one person(?) do the bulk of the contributing to it? Or am I not understanding the issue?
>>139060707
Slang for といって
On the bright side it's mostly just manga and LNs that are gone, and most of them are still in the LN collections.
>>139060256
Also, as an aside, if any of you already have CoR edit access and want to help mark dead links, go ahead and do that. Just bold it and change the text color to red. I'd appreciate any help I can get marking all of this crap. I'll start marking stuff tomorrow.
>>139060601
Nope.
>>139060645
I don't really get it either, but hey, he himself said he was really unstable, so it's anyones guess why he would suddenly flip out like this (again).
>>139060601
It was the DoJG deck guy. I don't think it was the old CoR guy, either. See:
https://wizchan.org/jp/res/9624.html#12367
Notable quote:
>Reason I'm asking is that, well, long story short I'm the anon who put together what is now referred to as the CoR, the DoJG project content (the decks and pdf, that is), and various stuff in relation to 4chan's Daily Japanese Thread on /a/, of which I was entirely unaware was being used elsewhere.
The guy who threw the recent shitfit was firm that the (original) DoJG project content was a koohii project. CoR-kun seems to have a different opinion of events.
https://mega.nz/#!zkRznR5Z!UwCZvRDMJYRVW-kO3nHVcqCreZN4oc3OQEY4nvKFAt4
DOJG deck, downloaded December 15, 2015. Not sure if it's the most recent.
>>139060882
>>139060872
Damn, DJT lore is too complex. I'll do some reps instead I think
>>139060645
He was constantly getting baited into autistic WK arguments too, so it's not really a big shock.
>>139061109
Was he for or against WK?
>>139061138
Lets say he was for it
>>139061138
Against, of course, like any serious sperg would be.
CoR manga was only 608GB according to this screenshot. Would have been easy to back-up.
>>139061414
Sure, anon, but no one did. Maybe this time you could make a backup?
Site anon here. Heading to bed.
If you have CoR access, help me mark the dead links (just bold and change the download text to red)
If you have backup links, re-upload them to mega and reply to this post with them or send them to the feedback form.
It's not really a big deal. Most of this stuff is on nyaa or PD anyways. In the future we'll just need to be more cautious of individuals uploading massive amounts of manga and reupload anything they give us so they can't delete it down the line (again) like this.
>>139061592
>Most of this stuff is on nyaa or PD anyways
Yeah, and a mess of inconsistent chinese gibberish files names and a labyrinth of archived folders for torrents. Fuck that noise. Everything I downloaded from the CoR was so conveniently organized. This sucks, why didn't I download stuff in bulk.
How much is left?
>>139052943
The
>RESOURCES (OLD)
link on the website leads to a no longer existing folder.
The
>DOJG DECK & INDEX
link on the website leads to a no longer existing folder.
>>139061592
>Site anon here
If you were running the site, how could you let this happen?
>>139062117
We already know, read the like 20 posts above yours.
>>139062176
>We already know
Fix it.
>>139053054
But Risa, I already am.
>>139062175
He runs the site. Not the underlying MEGA accounts.
>>139062216
Anon...
>all this over a sakura op
Autism is an amazing thing.
The CoR isn't important anyway, it's not like anyone intelligent reads manga and LNs over the vastly superior artform that is VNs.
>>139062238
So why didn't he put safeguards in place?
>>139062295
It has to be fixed.
>>139062461
Starting to understand why that guy started hating DJT desu
Anyone have an experience with learning enhancing drugs?
I'd rather not do amphetamines as it interferes with long term memory (my experience).
Im thinking something to enhance brain plasticity or something?
>>139062456
Yes, finally djt can become a dedicated VN thread.
>>139062461
Anyone in the thread or any of the people with mega accounts and CoR access could've made backups, though. Just because he's the dude who adds links doesn't mean he has to be the one making all the backups.
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/comics/series.php?letter=A
We need to get the Russians to take over CoR.
>>139062525
So why didn't either he or the other anons maintaining the site make backups? All that would have to happen is there to at least be one backup of something before it was added to the CoR.
Simple safeguards.
Also, why the fuck is the site being hosted on a commercial domain? http://bitlasers.com/ is a business. Why are we allowing some anon to make traffic revenue off DJT?
>>139062616
Anon, you're getting a bit autistic. You could have made a backup just as much as anyone. Anyway, many/most of the files are still there. How about you go and make a backup?
>>139062616
theres a reason ive never looked at the guide
>>139062616
Nobody is making "traffic revenue" off a redirect.
>>139062682
>You could have made a backup just as much as anyone
Not with my shitty adsl.
>>139062616
>Why are we allowing some anon to make traffic revenue off DJT?
It doesn't even have ads and it'd be worth pennies at best even if it did.
>>139062708
Why are we allowing a business unrelated to anime or manga to be posted every thread? That is in direct violation of global rule 11.
Whoever is about when the next thread it made, post the links to the google page, not this business.
>>139062829
Why did you come back?
>>139062829
Oh boy, of course it's him.
>>139062710
Anon, the people running and contributing to the CoR aren't some super users with more resources than you. They've just made a google doc where other people can post the things they upload.
>>139062708
Redirects are against the rules.
>>139062616
>implying anyone ever reads the OP
That anon is probably starving.
I have a feeling this is just the guy who deleted everything and he's trying to stir shit up now that he sees that DJT doesn't really care that much that he deleted a bunch of stuff.
>>139062878
Which rule?
>>139062512
Exactly!
So, what are you reading at the moment, anon?
I'm reading Monobeno.
i dont care what the dudes reasons are i just want to see him dance
>>139052943
Thread doesn't need any more reason to be banned.
Use this for the next OP text:
Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
Previous Thread:
>>139052943
![45NKMTYQMR7Q4LR2XNALODVDLZ7TW7ZSXGHZ3SA[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IpNRGjH.jpg "45NKMTYQMR7Q4LR2XNALODVDLZ7TW7ZSXGHZ3SA[1]")
>>139062537
Oh wow. Why am I still reading Japanese comics?
>>139062908
It is. He's always been autistic about how unappreciative DJT is and how we're leeches that don't take responsibility for the CoR, even though the vast majority probably doesn't even use it.
>>139062950
Global rule 11.
>>139063027
Where does it mention redirects there?
>>139063039
>Advertising (all forms) is not welcome—this includes any type of referral linking, "offers", soliciting, begging, stream threads, etc.
This is referral linking. I'm trying to contact mods in IRC now about it. DJT doesn't need to be funnelled through some anons business when it exists entirely within a compeltely non-profit set of google documents.
>>139063120
Do you even know what a referral is?
>>139063120
It looks neater. Is easier to remember.
>>139063120
Can this much autism actually exist?
>>139063120
That's not a referral link.
>>139053877
I'm cool but I don't want to talk to you.
>>139063143
>>139063174
>>139063211
do you really need that click money that bad
>>139063244
wget http://bitlasers.com/djt/ -v
--2016-03-24 23:38:35-- http://bitlasers.com/djt/
Resolving bitlasers.com (bitlasers.com)... 162.213.255.47
Connecting to bitlasers.com (bitlasers.com)|162.213.255.47|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true [following]
No ads, officers, referrals, or visitor information is being traded.
>>139063143
I'll also be contacting your hosting provider as I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate the copyright contact being linked to. If you actually care, drop the act and just use the direct google sheets URL.
>>139063174
That isn't a valid excuse. Google sheets can have their urls shortened and bypass the spam filter.
>>139063244
How am I going to sustain my NEET lifestyle otherwise, I am literally making bank with this shit.
>>139063120
>I'm trying to contact mods in IRC now about it.
lel
>>139063284
What the fuck man, take a chill pill.
>>139063284
>I'll also be contacting your hosting provider as I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate the copyright contact being linked to
Wow you sure have a vendetta, autism-chan
>>139063284
>I'll also be contacting your hosting provider as I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate the copyright contact being linked to.
Whoever runs bitlasers is norwegian, so yeah, good luck with that. They're not in the EU or anything.
>>139063284
i actually like this one get em dude
>>139052943
Domain Name: BITLASERS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1660164206_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2014-05-05T20:47:05.00Z
Creation Date: 2011-06-06T17:15:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-06-06T17:15:55.00Z
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Does namecheap have a policy against copyright content?
>>139063577
They told us they don't
>>139063577
Namecheap only accepts DMCA-compatible notices. You need to own or represent the copyright that's being infringed.
Yeah, why exactly does the OP link you to bitlasers.com? It doesn't seem to be doing anything at all, as it's directly throwing you to a Google doc.
>>139063699
It's short, clean, and can be followed from inside the archive even if the google docs link changes. And there's no ads or referral garbage like link shorteners.
>>139063741
>It's short, clean
It's also a business.
俺のキンタマしゃぶれ
School has been a bitch these past few days. I'm going in, see you in a few hours.
>>139063741
Fair enough. These lasers look dangerous, though. I bet you could easily fuck up a pilot's eyes with one of those.
>>139063784
So is google
>>139063784
If anon wanted to shill his lasers or something, he would certainly put link to them from the doc, not make users actively skip past them by literally never showing them that bitlasers is a website that sells lasers. It took me several weeks after they changed the link for me to notice that it wasn't just some good custom url site.
>>139063857
Google isn't a private business being ran for profit by an anon.
>>139063894
You're right, public businesses being run by spying megacorporations are a much smaller issue, one that should be ignored entirely.
There's plenty of other URL shorteners out there that don't make any money.
>>139063931
Sweat, bitch.
>>139063894
All the better. If someone has to get paid it might as well be one of our own.
>Registrar links to site that contains a redirect to a site that links to a spreadsheet that links to a site that lets you download user uploaded content
Hmm, I wonder where the copyright problem here lies.
Yaranaika.
Buy a Bitlaser® today and get 33% off your WaniKani subscription! Offer ends soon.
Was shitposter-kun the person who owned djt.みんな? I remember him sperging out in a similar fashion after that site died, and it would explain why he's jealous of its successor.
>>139063943
shorten my dick
>>139064066
yeah nothing is gonna come of that but now that i think about it having the guide link to someones business site is just as bad of a look as most of the posts below the op so what the hell if theres no bread let em eat shit
Anyone have any idea what the second Kanji is?
Having issues with Jisho's search
>>139064143
Top fucking kek.
>>139064224
Wouldn't be surprised if the current bitlasers anon is the one who went after djt.みんな in the first place.
Do people learning Spanish, French, Italian or other, more commonly learned languages also have to put up with as many autists as Japanese learners do? Because holy shit, they just keep pouring out of the woodwork.
Just look at what this thread has devolved into.
>>139064276
It doesn't link to his business site though.
>>139064276
>being this mad
You can't keep jumping from host provider to host provider forever, bitlasersくん.
>>139064318
i mean >>139063280 it does but youre just not there for very long
>>139064298
>Wouldn't be surprised if the current bitlasers anon is the one who went after djt.みんな in the first place.
That was someone who wanted the thread deleted because of the CoR being a huge pile of piracy. He did the same thing the current shitposter is doing.
>>139064276
>>139063280
>>139064363
No, you're literally not on his site. Do you know what a "site" is?
>>139064338
if i wrote the op djt would straight up own like fuck dude
>>139064292
鹿
You probably used 匕 as one of the radicals, instead of 比, I'm guessing?
>>139064431
Guide written by Jamal when?
>>139064354
Thanks.
>>139064446
Naw, I didn't see the little bit on the top for 广.
>>139053124
>>139053384
I thought I was the only one that think like this, so I refrained voicing my opinion at first. But since at least somebody else out there think similarly, I'd offer an opinion.
I understand completely from your POV, and maybe other anons that contributes highly to the new guide's POV too, that Wanikani is not a good business model.
However there is a fine line between "disagreeing on Wanikani in ephemeral djt threads" and "making an official stance on the issue" in a public guide.
That is where I disagree with you. Sure WaniKani maybe a business, but there are people that depends on WK and Tofugu's continued wellbeing for their lives.
I understand you have your moral stance in life, but your opinion about Wanikani in the guide can not be attributable to you because 4chan is by designed giving option to be anonymous.
So a public guide about Japanese Language in 4chan will not be seen as your own opinion, but it will be generalized into "4chan's public stance against Wanikani".
Maybe "4chan's opinion" that's written in the new guide will just be a drop in the ocean and won't affect WaniKani's business.
But in the off-chance that it affects WK business just enough that they can't maintain their current staffs, as a business, they might have to let go somebody some time.
In the off chance that that happens, you will be directly contributing to some WK or Tofugu employee getting let go, without the accountability ever be attributable to you.
I would offer you an opinion to be more subtle about WK on the guide.
Something along the line of
>WaniKani is a paid website which teaches you 6000 words and 2000 Kanji over the course of one year.
> Whether it's good or bad is your own decision
> Many people think it's slow
Something like that.
Throw the judgement of WK to the readers instead of slightly condemning WK yourself like the guide is currently written.
1/2
Do I have this right (last panel)?
>俺には想像もできないような楽しいことが
Enjoyable things that aren't even conceivable for me...
>>139063822
>a few hours for that
>>139064772
tldr dude will not read part 2 also
>>139064772
>it will be generalized into "4chan's public stance against Wanikani".
The wanikani section of his FAQ is a very good summary of the usual DJT stance on wanikani (notice how I didn't say "DJT's stance" or "4chan's stance" -- don't bait). It might sound like it's biased against it, but it really does literally outline the objective difference from anki. That is *much* more fair than your option, because it actually speaks the truth.
In fact, including wanikani without objectively evaluating it against the free options is a disservice to every single other paid japanese resource. If wanikani is merely mentioned, and "it teaches you this much in this time time", then the mere presence of its name is an incredible positive. Any paid resource that is not mentioned will be relegated to literal irrelevance, and wanikani will be present as a neutral, no matter how good or bad said paid resource really is.
>>139064772
Wanikani is inferior to anki by all meaningful metrics. Wanikani costs money and artificially restricts your ability to study. Anki is free and you can use it to study the way you want.
There can be no serious, honest discussion about which is superior software, as the answer is self-evident. There is no reason to include Wanikani in the guide, as it is, again, an objectively inferior option.
>>139064993
You don't understand, I have to check this thread every 5 minutes
>>139064862
Yes. "Enjoyable things that I can't even imagine."
>>139064772
I'm >>139053384, I just want to say I don't agree with you at all. WaniKani is a piece of shit and does not deserve any form of advertisement in the guide, and if it dies and its employees starve in the streets due to losing their jobs, I couldn't care less.
I was just objecting to his moral stance against Wanikani being written in the guide unnecessarily, when all he needs to say is "There are a number of paid Japanese learning programs commonly recommended, such as Wanikani and Rosetta Stone, which are in actuality strictly inferior to our free tools listed here. Do not use them."
>>139053124
>>139064772
2/2
-----
Since you've made 2 posts concerning your stance in the last thread that made me understand where you're coming from better. I'd like to blog a bit here so that you can understand where I come from better.
I lived a normal life in a developed country where everything is all fine and good and how it's supposed it be for a portion of my life. Then I had to move to a "developing" country where everything there is, is the total opposite of how I used to live.
>Internet have censorship based on religious law
>The government effectively blocks thousands and thousands of websites that doesn't align with their view
>The censorship method is even questionable at best because anybody can report offending sites, and if enough reports are being submitted, said website will be block
>There were a lot of websites that got trollbanned
>Another part of this is that the government deliberately limiting access to the internet by making internet used to be $200 a month for a 5mbps internet.
>The minimum income of that country is not even twice that amount, and the average income is <$1000
>Basically people can't afford internet
>There is no national entrance exams for university, so university make their own exams, and how much "entrance donations" are part of examination consideration IF the testakers in question happen to be on the 1/4th of the bottom line of the faculties seats quota.
So what I'm trying to say is that this "developing" country government basically strangles the lower-income household in a way so that their families will never be able to gain a better footing in life both by suppressing information flow and also limiting better educations for their childs by rigging the system so that only middle and rich income household are able to afford the expenses needed to send their kids to higher educations.
Because of this, I'm more tolerant with business practices and have more sympathy for the workers.
>>139065268
you really gotta eat a dick sometime i think
>>139065454
ありがと、医者ちゃん
>>139065268
Oh boy, did your paki parents marry you off to your cousin in the old homeland, or some shit?
>>139065454
遅いぞい
>>139065268
Local shady businesses in a poverious country: fine.
Developed web service that takes money in return for wasting peoples' time and *pretending* to educate them: You seriously can't defend this, especially if you live in a developing country where information is a problem. Your kind of country is literally the reason that education/information freedom has to exist. The memeification of services like wanikani only serves to actively hurt peoples' education, even in the developed world.
Wanikani is one of the first places someone here at DJT pointed me, and it wasted three months of my life. I need to learn japanese so that I can do commissions and feed myself food better than mcdonalds and spend less time holed up on the computer so that I can worry about my health. My region has a very high GDP because of capitalism, but there are very few jobs. Even mcdonalds will not hire me. I literally cannot financially afford to move somewhere I can get work because I don't have money to live even for a week before my first paycheck.
Three months delay is a huge problem to me, but Wanikani will waste at least two years' of peoples life planning and not even leave them off in a state where they can read japanese, because it's an "all in one" services that literally does not prepare people to actually read japanese.
Have any of you read the works of Matsuo Basho in Japanese? I was wondering how difficult they are.
>>139064772
>>139065268
This thread keeps getting better.
>>139065572
Why are we even switching hosts?
Ive been off djt for about two weeks
>>139065770
Nothing happened. You've been memed.
>>139065615
>Wanikani is one of the first places someone here at DJT pointed me, and it wasted three months of my life
>he actually fell for it
>>139065823
It happened before it was a meme, anon. Like, it was still in closed beta and the site would crash somewhat regularly.
http://jp.morpheem.com
Has anyone actually tried this to learn new words? It seems like it could help you learn some common words, but it also seems it could be kind of slow
>>139065894
Use a frequency dictionary of japanese grammar instead. Go through the pages until you stop recognizing most words, then start mining.
>>139065992
>No the host provider definitely changed
According to whois (which is the gospel of god), the domain has been the same since 2014 with no IP address update.
I wish there was a Rikaisama equivalent for other languages. Way too useful and im going to miss it when learning my third language
So for the past week I've been reading steints gate raw and i only understand like 50% of it it this ok?
>このスレッド
>>139066198
yes, it's fine.
>>139065992
>lolcows
Homo.
>>139066214
永遠にさよなら
>>139065680
....Nobody? Welp.
>>139065680
Why would anyone ever read poetry, Anon? Surely you are not humanities?
>>139066198
If you've never seen/played it before, yes it's a big problem because you're ruining a great experience
>>139066409
You should find out what grade level he writes at.
A book like Botchan by Natsume Soseki is around middle school level in Japan.
>>139066464
I, uh... I'm learning Japanese for literature, actually. inb4 crossboarder, I do like anime & manga, but it was Mishima's "The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea" that truly drove me to start studying the language.
>>139066478
But you guys said i should care about 100% understanding and just feel everything.
>>139066490
Oh, good idea. And I plan to read some of Soseki's novels in the future, so that's nice to know. Do you happen to know how to find this information?
>>139066639
It depends on how much you care about what you're reading. If it's something you really care about, reading it while still learning Japanese is likely to diminish your experience, even if you will learn something from it. So if you don't really care about Steins;Gate you might as well roll with it.
>>139066198
pick your poison. read official english release where 50% of lines are straight up cut or read it in japanese where you dont understand 50% of it
youre no better off one way or the other
>>139066654
I don't. I just happened to find out what Botchan's grade level is while searching about it. I think such information is sometimes mentioned in the respective book's index.
If you're going to go into Soseki, I also recommend The Miner. I'm perpetually stuck at page 130 because it fell out of my bag while I was returning home from something half a year or so ago. It had the rarer cover too, that they don't print anymore! It was a good though, Soseki's most experimental work.
Botchan is very good too and I recommend starting with that as it is a pretty "simple" story.
Also, pick up Akutagawa's book of 17 short stories. High recommend.
I am a WW2 Japanese codebreaker.
>>139066943
How much navajo do you know?
>>139066829
芥川は書いてある内容はわかりやすいとおもうよ
あたしは芥川は好き
>>139066409
http://ysjapanese.wp-x.jp/2015/12/dont-use-pre-war-resources/
>>139067015
Fuck off, you are not welcome.
>>139066829
Oh... Well, thanks anyway. I'll keep that in mind.
The two I'd most like to read are "I Am a Cat" and "Kokoro" (his two most famous works, from what I gather), but if I do end up enjoying them as much as I expect to, I will inevitably try to read all of his books.
As for Akutagawa, I've read that inPortugueseand it was great. I might re-read it in Japanese at some point in the future.
>daily fighting thread
>>139067015
Thank you.
>>139066971
A lot, native level basically.
>>139067015
Cool.
>>139067015
>芥川は書いてある内容がわかりやすいとおもうよ
>あたしは芥川が好き
直してあげた
>>139067180
Found the non-native
Some dialects are actively moving away from using が for nounal adjectives in casual speech
>>139067015
How easy though?
>>139067112
where is the guide to kung fu?
>>139067225
その無粋な方言はゆるせない！
日本語じゃない！
邪道だ！
>>139067330
けk’d へあrちly my fりえんd
>>139067180
>書いてある内容は
だよ「が」だと（）の含意が抜けちゃうよ
>書いてある内容（旧字旧仮名の分かりにくさ「をのぞけば」）は分かりやすい
だよ
>>139067371
あ、そうですか？
知りませんでした。
教えてくれてありがとうございます。
申し訳ありません、僕が間違ってる。
どうかお許して下さい。
お世話になりました。
愛してるよ。
Is it over?
イギリス(18世紀)で紹介された日本語
>>139067371
おもしろえ
俺，日本語のルールをおぼえる
>>139067564
I don't see imouto's posts being deleted, so I guess not yet.
>>139067041
This blog actually has some interesting content on it, thanks for posting it anon.
Why doesn't someone with all the manga/LNs/whatever from the CoR just make a torrent? Could upload it to nyaa as a .7z or whatever, I would certainly download and archive it then, but I don't want to go through and download each link individually.
>>139067670
>sharing IPs with other anons
no thanks
残尿感
日本語の森のスティーブは可愛いですね
>>139052943
I don't know if this is the right place to bring it up, or if anyone cares, but MOB and Gunslinger Girl links don't work in CoR.
>>139067818
A lot got deleted because someone got really mad.
>>139067786
ｓｔｅｖｅでs
>>139067877
Oh, well, okay.
On the bright side, I still got 20+ gb worth of manga from CoR just now, so a lot is still there.
>>139067818
There's a feedback section for a reason dude
And the cor guy fixes them really quickly
>>139068053
Ah, sorry.
I did it proper now.
>>139067743
血の残尿
>>139066733
So are you actually suggesting you should use most vns as a "scrapper' then?
Because that's a really shitty was of looking at practice.
>>139067503
>僕
Typical roleplaying-faggot enabler.
>>139067786
日本人じゃないからですね
Is there a text hooker for SNES games?
Having to spend so much time searching for kanji I have trouble making out takes away a lot of the fun.
>>139065992
>post deleted
Oh wow talk about damage control.
>>139068246
Looking things up from time to time is one thing, but if you literally understand 50% then your first playthrough is going to be a real shitfest.
I mean, nothing stops you from rereading it when you've gotten better. It depends on what you want out of the experience (some people have a work that they've been looking forwards to reading "for real", that's not a great choice to lead with).
>>139068395
We're talking autistic about the meaning of every single sentence, not conceding a point for any reason.
What I want is FUN ENJOYMENT ENTERTAINMENT HAPPINESS
Can someone identify this kanji for me?
>>139068650
Ask imouto.
>>139068650
襲
attack
>>139068666
I'm asking everyone, imouto included.
>>139068720
ありがとう！
The in-game text looks like it has a lot fewer strokes which threw me off when looking it up.
>>139068383
Nope, SNES games all use completely different text encoding schemes, just look up a script for what you're playing.
>>139068650
>>139068720
>>139068833
>空襲
>Air raid/strike
>強襲
>assault
>襲撃
>maraud
シュウ読みは３つの熟語を暗記すれおけばＮ１までとれるんじゃないかなあとおもうよ。
did imouto get banned
>looking at an online course not related to Japanese
>it's following the WaniKani business model
You know, I'm perfectly fine with paying for non-tangible products. People have got to make a living, and considering the quality rise that can come with more time, more professional staffs, and more incentive to create more material, it becomes beneficial to the consumer, too. Subscription-based models can also be fine, depending on the product.
However, I hate this artificial limiting on how far you can go into the program per month. This is where you stop working with the customer and start trying to sabotage the customer for more money. If you want them to subscribe for a year, then just give them a trial period and make the rest a year-long contract. Don't work against their progress.
>>139068519
please respond
>>139069808
Nah.
>>139069988
MOOC?
>>139070377
http://www.webcookingclasses.com/
>The compelling content maymay
So I can't believe I just read an entire volume of manga in 1 sitting.
So, this is what it's all about, eh?
>>139070466
The website looks like it came right out of 2001
>>139070655
Kinda. The video quality isn't very 2016, either. But the guy seems to know his shit, and he's pretty much teaching what I want to learn (what happens when you cook something, how to identify important stages, and what to do when you reach said stages).
Of course, a novice cook trying to identify someone who knows his shit is kinda like a monolingual trying to identify a language teacher who's giving out good advice.
Is that spammer guy still here? Looks like a lot of posts got deleted just before
>get bored of manga and VNs really fast
>LNs are too difficult to read and enjoy
>Vocab too shit to watch anime raw
What do?
>>139071152
i remember this post
>>139069102
I've been looking around for a Tales of Phantasia script, but I can't seem to find any. I just find story recaps and whatnot.
Do you have any recommended resources for this?
>>139071278
Have you tried googling lines from the game? If that doesn't work then I have no other suggestions.
>re-reading Tae Kim
>のだ and んだ
>分かんない
助けて、神様..
>>139071357
どうしたの？
何かあったんだ？
何がわからないの？
説明しな
>>139071357
tl;dr: japanese lost the sentence ending particle for explanatory tone so they use のだ instead
The individual characters don't mean anything.
>>139071357
Sentence ending particles that indicate explanatory tone.
>>139071404
>どうしたの？
>何がわからないの？
I understand perfectly what the の is doing in those.
>何かあったんだ
But then this happens and my brain just fucks me over.
I know they're both doing the exact same thing which is explaining something or asking for an explanation, but when I'm trying to read stuff, the んだ just doesn't stick and I spend a few seconds trying to figure out what word that is until I realize that it's just doing what のだ would do.
Will this go away?
>>139071301
I found the part I'm at right now, but I couldn't find the entire script unfortunately.
>>139071610
Just read a bunch I guess. It's a pretty common thing, especially in speech
I remember I used to get confused by なんなんだ
>>139070597
>"reading interesting things" is surely a meme created to deceive me!
>>139070597
>So So So So So
>core6k
>円高
>appreciation of the yen
DROPPED
I might have to start writing or doing something differently because this 65-75% correct% is killing me.
>>139072640
Which deck? Try writing it down, it helps.
>>139072605
ただ円高といえば
「円高ドル安」の略だとおもうよ。円高ユーロ安の略語はないんじゃないかなあとおもうよ
>>139072658
>takes 3 times as long
>slight increase in retention
>it helps
>>139072807
You're doing something wrong then. How many cards a day?
So, is there like, a pirate version of wanikani?
>>139071105
Nah, the thread hasn't been moved to /jp/ so the daily spam thread is still here on /a/.
>>139069808
Finfag isn't really able to be banned unless range bans are introduced to deal with the avatarfaggotry properly.
>>139072658
A mining deck, doing 10 words per day.
>>139072807
I used to say the same thing, but a slight increase in retention can supposedly reduce the # of reps significantly.
Does anyone else get really stressed when they feel they are misunderstanding Buddhist phrases and prophecies?
My worries about a simple sentence is enough to put me into a panic attack but this is even worse! lol
>>139072999
What are you reading?
The VN I'm reading has a bunch of obscure Shinto stuff in it, it's great.
>>139073047
smt3 i can only get an erection when looking at terrible 3d kaneko designed humans
>>139072896
Anyone? I want to experience the glory of wanikani, but for free.
How do you guys live with yourself knowing you'll never understand everything about what you're reading, living only in mediocrity to impress some faggots on an image board that, in reality is worse then reddit?
>>139073195
Just use Anki ya nib head.
>>139073195
There's a ripped anki deck in the CoR.
>>139073227
>he's still here
How long does it take to do J-Cat? I haven't really seen many posts about it lately
>>139073393
About 30-60 minutes.
Does anyone have all of the contents of that DoJG mega folder downloaded (i.e. the index PDF, both decks, and all of the note images including the ones that weren't in the deck)? If so, can you re-upload it to mega?
>>139072784
I think that he's complaining about "useless" vocabulary.
Maybe someday, he'll realize how stupid it is to consider any vocabulary in a language that he's learning useless. All it takes is one author deciding that he wants the characters to talk about the economy (not that uncommon of a topic), and the word has found its use. He's going to be running across a lot of "useless" vocabulary in his reading.
>>139073752
While I agree, there's still stuff like this >>139034935 that just won't show up, ever.
G-guys, I started to learn JP by myself ago without frequenting this threads. Right now I am trying to read a easy vn. What is /DJT/ stance on new guys questions?
といった発言をするようになったという。
what the hell is その人ありと謳われた supposed to imply?
>>139073904
Read the thread
>>139064772
>>139065268
I understand where you're coming from with your sympathy for the workers and their need for money, but WaniKani is not based in a developing country with a corrupt government.
The section in the FAQ does not simply say "WaniKani is shit, don't use it". It clearly describes the drawbacks which it has and compares these to Anki. Like other said, including in the guide as a paid resource without evaluating it against the alternatives would be nothing short of advertisement, and a terrible idea altogether since the guide is supposed to help people with self-sustained learning, not show them the door to an ecosystem that ties them down in their progress.
If we're already on the topic, yes, I believe that there is a philosophy that stands behind the guide and upon which it is based. This philosophy is to help those who wish to educate themselves to find the means to do so. I believe that recommending someone who doesn't know better a resource which ties them down in their learning rather than one which offers them the freedom to learn at their own pace, is nothing short of sabotaging that person in their progress. Since Wanikani is a recurring topic in these threads as of late, it makes sense to discuss it in the FAQ, and equally so to mention what it does and what it has to offer in comparison to free resources, which is not very much.
So yes, in the off chance that WaniKani actually looses business because of this being included in the guide and has to fire people, that is fine by me. I'd rather not have people be fired over something I wrote on the internet, but a bad business model is a bad business model and I will be glad to see a company with a business model that cripples learners disappear.
Tofugu employees have the luck to live in a developed country which offers social security and helps people get back on their feet and find a job again. Hopefully they'll find a place at a company which makes better use of their skill.
>>139074020
We should let the free market decide which businesses survive and which don't
Besides WK doesn't even deserve amy money
>>139073986
Well to be honest the thread is like 99% people discussing the merit of guides
>>139073966
this is 古文
basically means something like "It was told that he was(as in be there)
Stay away from 古文 kids
>>139074074
The person who said that was talking about himself though.
>>139074095
if you give me context i can help better
>>139074062
Dont sweat it it's just the fault of two autists who consider it their life goal to ruin these threads
>>139074122
like I said, he was talking about himself to another person.
I get it, it's pompous, but I don't understand why you''d say it that way.
I don't think it really matters if WaniKani is a good or bad method for learning.
I think the guide should only include resources that are completely free and shouldn't even mention stuff like WaniKani.
>>139073904
If you tried answering the question with google and the tips in the guide then post it and someone will answer
If it's a dumb question you could've answered yourself you'll be treated accordingly
>>139074176
What can i say..
first, Kobun is pretentious as shit . No normal person will use it when speaking unless parodying something or shit.
If you were literally reading kobun (wtf), kobun is written by "nobility" people, so the speak pretentiously as shit, and theytry to make whatever they're talking about cool, in this manner the guy saying your shit is actually cool in ancient japoan standards.
also kobun is cool to chuunis.
>>139074178
I'm sure if the le epic funny maymay ironic shills didn't constantly post about WK, it wouldn't be mentioned in the guide, but right now it's actually necessary so that newcomers (hopefully) aren't as gullible and there won't be as much of a need to explain in the threads.
>>139074178
Given how many sperglords think it's hilarious to post about how much they love a paid service they've never used to rile people up, it needs to be mentioned.
Honestly, couldn't they have found something more humorous to get behind instead of actively driving idiots into the waiting arms of scam artists? Promote one of those shitty "let's learn Japanese" Youtube channels that goes through a single word in 10 minutes, at least then the retards who believe you aren't losing any money.
>finally decide to take J-Cat
>am ready to do it
>prepared myself
>can't login
>made account a year ago
>expired
Rip, going to have to make a another one, wait until it's approved, then motivate myself to do it again.
Sayonara ...chan
Ive never seen one before, no one has, but Im guessing it's a white hole
>>139075661
ううん
かわいいねこです
>>139076148
猫じゃなくて、 ホワイトホールだ。
>>139064276
>shorten my dick
That would be difficult
How do you read ranges in Japanese, for example "a~d"?
aからd?
aからdまで?
Something else?
>>139076534
aからdまで
is your best bet
I'm doing my Core2k/6k deck and I've got to a point where there are words I don't really think about, but I know them.
For example, 自転車
I look at it and I know it means bicycle and you pronounce it ji-ten-sha but I don't really think about it, it's just already there in my head.
Is this bad? I feel like I don't really know it and the back of my mind is just making a lucky guess.
>>139076942
its working like its supposed to. Core doesnt teach you the readings for each kanji individually and instead expects you to just get a feel for them along the way.
>>139076942
Try writing it in your mind after being distracted for a moment or something. Actually, try it right now after reading this post without looking back up. If you can't then yeah, that's not optimal since obviously it'll get confusing once you learn similar Kanji and can't tell them apart by minor differences.
In this case it's hardly a big deal obviously but try to recognize Kanji based on the entire thing.
>>139053225
http://web.gekisaka.jp/news/detail/?185797-185797-fl
どうしてそのサイトを引用しました？
>>139076942
Not really, no. But since it's kanji and not the roman alphabet, you should still be a little careful with similar looking ones.
>>139076534
きがるな会話なら
>aからd
でじゅうぶんだとおもうよ
>エイトゥーディー
でも通じるんじゃないかな
数学でいうところのいいかただと
> min<=x and x<=max
> minダイナリイコール x カツ x ダイナリイコールmax
>>139074178
I have to say, next to our supervillains of late (Jamal and General Autist), Anki/WK and RTK/Vocab wars actually seem like relaxing, nostalgic, memories.
Can someone explain this question to me?
次の漢字の部首をア～エの中から選べ。
罰
⺲
⺉
言
口
I don't understand what it's asking. Aren't they all radicals?
>>139078017
>relaxing, nostalgic, memories.
just wait until summer they'll be back
>Fact that i've been learning nip for the past 4 months get's brought up with my weeb friends
>"hey /a/non, can you help me learn?"
>Give him all the resources a beginner would need
>3 weeks later after i'd forgotten it gets brought up again
>He said he couldn't learn kana and went straight to learning "Usefull words" instead
Other than hellotalk, how can I meet some Japanese people (preferably girls)?
>>139078231
That's almost always the case unfortunately. Which is why so many people only learn up to a certain level and give up.
>>139078256
出会い厨はNG
>>139078256
In Japan.
i need you cant learn japanese girl images to meme my friend with
i cant let him learn japanese
>>139078297
I think people that do that weren't really serious about it in the first place. Even if they may have thought they were.
>>139078370
Why don't you want him to learn Japanese?
Is it because you think he'll surpass you because in fact, YOU can't learn Japanese.
>>139078465
please no
>>139078465
would something like
dekinai no desu ka
be somethign like you said or do i need to read japanese the manga way again?
>>139078891
I think you need to brush up on your English skills.
>>139079038
the more i try to grind japanese the worse my english gets
that and i dont give a fuck anymore
http://vocaroo.com/i/s008NxpCvvae
Site anon here. Finished going through the CoR's links.
Damage report on the mass deletion that occurred last night:
- 漫画: 336 of the 897 manga were deleted (561 remaining)
- 小説: A few text format LNs and one of the collections at the top. I may of missed a few when going through and marking, but most of the dead text format LNs can be found in the collections at the top though since that's where they came from, so it's not as bad as it looks. If anyone happened to download the missing collection pack at the top, then feel free to upload that because that basically means we lost nothing in the 小説 tab.
- 映画: Most of the movies were deleted
- 教本: All in One Learning Pack and the DoJG deck mega link (also includes individual entry note scan images and an index PDF)
The manga was really the only big hit (I doubt the movie tab was used much compared to the other tabs), but it's not too bad compared to the previous times he's done this. I'm sure someone has backups of the DoJG stuff and the learner pack.
Again, if anyone has a backup of the missing LN pack (named "AWZ3/EPUB/MOBI Collection" in the CoR), then if you re-upload that, that essentially means we lost pretty much nothing in the 小説 tab.
tl;dr - It's not too bad. If you have missing stuff, upload it and send it to feedback.
>>139079616
I have to say that after reading 愚物語, I thought Oikura was incredibly moe for a mentally deranged suicidal self-loathing maniac. Maybe it's because she reminded me of myself.
>>139079744
>mentally deranged suicidal self-loathing maniac
>reminds me of myself
痛い！私はあなたの端に自分自身をカット
Does anyone have more edits of the Genki crew? I have a special attachment to Mary and Robert for getting me through my first few years of study.
Is it a bad idea to ignore leeches and just continue on? They're building up and I'm not sure what I should do about them.
>>139080409
that depends on how many you got
>>139080451
I have about 100 in the Core 2k/6k deck. I'm ~3600 cards in.
>>139080409
I put them in a separate deck with an 80% interval modifier.
>>139080409
If you don't see the in actual content, you don't need them
I just unsuspend leeches if I see them while reading, and usually have an easier time remembering them afterwards
>studying for 4 years
>learned a new verb from a fucking Pokemon episode of all things
>>139079616
Were the posts deleted or what exactly happened earlier? I wasn't around, why'd he decide to delete shit?
>>139080701
what was it
>>139080737
孵る・孵す
I knew 孵化する from before that though.
>>139080730
The guy who flipped out over the Sakura image, the guy who was spamming fake DJT threads and spamming the previous thread thread before it with fake questions/posts, the guy who "maintained" the DoJG and argued over the formatting and stuff constantly, and old CoRくん who deleted all of the CoR's contents on two different occasions when DJT made him mad before? They're all the same person.
the only time I feel compelled is with perverted content
>>139080804
Ganbatte, my man
>>139080409
I'm a newfriend. What are leeches in this context?
>>139080882
right back at ya bud
>>139080896
http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html#leeches
>>139080896
He confused this thread with one he currently had open in >>>/out/ wherein he was looking for advice about traversing a swamp.
>>139080896
a card that gets banished to the shadow realm
>>139080774
Like 孵化器 -egg incubator, eh? Never met 孵化 besides this.
Also, didn't know that 孵る is actually the kanji from egg incubator kek. It's quite logical, just never thought about it I guess. Thanks!
一姫二太郎
>>139080998
there isn't enough of this in my mangos
>>139080802
Oh, I think I saw all of those except the thing with a Sakura image. Which Sakura are we talking about? Was he complaining about fish because it's another general?
>>139080896
An Anki card that you fail so many times that it stops showing up.
>>139081084
It's from the Nichijou manga, though.
>>139081111
This hideous monstrosity.
>>139080998
Some Jisho definitions can be really confusing when taken out of context.
>>139080676
How do you remember that a word you see in content is a word that got marked as a leech?
>>139081209
Most of the time I just end up remembering that I've seen it before after looking it up
Otherwise rikaisama auto-import will alert you if you try to add duplicate cards
>>139080802
And the /qa/ thread. He also made the /qa/ thread.
Can somebody actually read classics in 草書体 with the hentaiganas and shit? Like able to read the 80% of it would be pretty awesome.
I bet the ladies love this in a guy.
Jesus, how many bloody variations of "supply" are there in core?
Are there any useful Chrome Apps i should be using?
>>139067612
What the fuck am i looking at?
>>139081601
Japonese
>>139081408
What the hell is that string of three long characters on the left? Three う?
>>139067612
Those look like Zodiac signs. That る looks pretty neat, though.
>>139067612
>they copied the last line upside down
I bet there is a great story behind this, something like a teen assistant that's always in a hurry carrying dozens of pages with one consonant's line each on them to his master and accidentally turning one of them around.
>何できた
>何できた
LITTERALLY INEXTINGUISHABLE
>>139081878
cant extinguish whats not burning
>>139081690
I posted that image, just searched for soushotai, and got this, so I'm not sure, but I can read it to some extent.
Indeed it's definitely starting with う after the のみ、and I think it's うこしう. But that し looks strange a little.
>何
なに
>何
なん
W H Y J A P A N E S E
P
E
O
P
L
E
>>139079616
>making this seem like it was a bad thing and people are victims here
I don't get it, if someone decides to share something they uploaded they can also decide to stop sharing that. At the end of the day if mega shits the fan, it is the uploaders who end up in shit so you can't blame them for not wanting a huge collection of illegal content to the user accounts for a long time. People usually upload things to share using temporary storage for others to grab if they want a copy. I wouldn't be willing to keep a large amount of stuff to my name floating around like that and based on how much was removed on the account of only a few people, the rest of us weren't willing to create backup links for redundancy either.
That is kind of the nature of the beast of the net: direct clearnet cloud storage should never be relied upon for ubiquitious longer term public access solutions. This is where a torrents should be seeded and if other anons here deem that collection of files something to keep for distribution, I suggest you take a little more responsibilty as a group for those of interest to use proper viable solutions to avoid third party cloud hosting providers. From a distribution point of view it is short sighted and as can be seen, too vulnerable.
This a good chance to take a mature approach or risk repeating the same mistakes without the benefit or learning from them. Take it as a grain of salt if need be, as it is at the end of the day your site.
>>139081153
That looks cute.
>>139082205
>not using a throwaway account for illegal shit
>>139082055
>read
read
>read
read
>lead
lead
>lead
lead
why english
>>139082205
All I do is add links to a spreadsheet and occasionally make changes to the site. No victims here and I'm not really worked up over it, just letting people know what's gone so they can re-upload it if they want to.
Plus anyone could've made backups, it doesn't have to be me and there's no reason why it needs to be me. The only resource I have access to that most of the posters in the thread don't have access to is the ability to edit the google docs
>>139082392
You forgot the worst of them, you and you
Seriously, what kind of third world language doesn't have a separate pronoun for 1st/2nd/3rd person and singular/plural each?
>>139082302
Nah, it's disgusting and depressing. You can really see the creator's rotten grey soul reflected on it.
Look at the fonts too, those were clearly picked by someone who loved to stack cans as a kid.
>>139082513
English being the language of intellectuals, there is no need for such blatant expressions. Truly, it is deserving of being the global language.
陽炎
蜉蝣
LITERALLY
What's the best site for raws?
I was thinking of making a script to download everything off one of those sites though it would be hard if all the filehosts enforced long waits.
Do any of you know of any western books/shows/games which got good Japanese translations? I'd be interested in seeing something localized from the other way around.
>カ
>力
>タ
>夕
>ハ
>八
>ニ
>二
FIGURATIVELY
>>139082820
It's been done
>>139082855
アリスのワンだランド
I remember reading about how the japs really loved it.
>>139082780
I heard once in koten class that the word 蜉蝣 is originated from 陽炎, because the flying mayfly looks like the actual 陽炎現象 or something like this.
For anyone that is fluent, have you tried watching western tv/movies with Japanese subtitles?
How is it? I imagine it wouldbe very strange hearing in english and reading in japanese at the same time.
>>139083159
You just end up focusing on the spoken part most of the time because it's more convenient. Unless you force yourself to read along your brain just starts ignoring the subs.
hold on, so theres multiple ways to read the number kanjis now, but only for some of them? what happened here, i was doing fine with just one reading.
>>139083365
Welcome to Japanese. You'll get used to it with more exposure. If you get similar looking ones mixed up still after a while, consider some form of individual kanji study.
>>139083070
I didn't know that. Looking it up, it's actually mentioned in this dictionary entry.
https://kotobank.jp/word/蜉蝣・蜻蛉-228603
〔陽炎（かげろう）のゆらめきを思わせる飛び方をするところからの名といわれる〕
>>139083365
Enjoy.
>>139083365
Kanji has 1 or 2 readings, one reading is for the kanji when it's alone, another reading is for the kanji when it's joined on to something.
There are exceptions to this but that's the general rule of thumb.Have fun :)
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