>Devotion beats talent
What a dumb fucking lie. Smile should have won.
>>138993424
smile just didn't want to win.
>>138993424
Peco had both
>>138993424
>Devotion beats talent
But that's not what is stated in the show, you fucking retard.
>>138993490
This. Smile was inferior, a mere autist.
>>138993629
>Peco wins
???
Such fantastic last episode.
>>138993424
Meaningful practice is around 20% of how good you are at a certain thing, the percentage depending on what the activity is.
Sorry to burst your little bubble, I know that it's 2016 and the world is in the rabid state of "You can do everything!!!" but truth of the matter is that you can't, some people are better suited for X while others Y, that's all there's to it.
>>138993424
What? Akuma had all the devotion in the world and he couldn't win.
>>138993424
Peco WAS talented. The guy who was all practice and no talent lost.
>>138993424
>>Devotion beats talent
But that's not what happened all you stupid idiot
>>138993996
>Smile
>no talent
Go watch the show again.
>>138993424
What I hate most is seeing cucks like you, who are content getting NTRd by society who tells you what you should be capable of, instead of taking life, your life, on his balls and living everyday the fullest potential and adding a new inch of possibilities everyday for a more fulfilling tomorrow you will not regret.
The guy with no talent and all devotion was Dragon and he got destroyed.
>>138994045
You should at least finish the serie once. Smile had talent but not enough devotion, Peco had both, the guy who had only devotion and hard work lost (Akuma)
>>138993424
>"I can't stand that hard work actually amounts to something!"
>"This makes me feel bad about being a lazy fuck!"
Most people make up shit about 'Natural Talent', being "born with it" and "God-given talent" to cope with the fact that they don't want to admit they didn't work hard enough for their goals. People will make all kinds of excuses for why they never succeeded, except admitting they didn't do enough.
Devotion breeds new talents, that is a fact.
Peco winning with a fucked up foot was a joke.
If Smile had devotion, he wouldn't have ended up as a teacher and pursued his dream. Instead, his dream was just that, a life outside the sport.
Peco wanted to be and became one of the best, because he wanted to and had the talent to make his standings worthwhile.
Do people not watch the show or do they self insert into the autist with glasses and hope he wins?
>>138994454
>because he wanted to
>wanted to
>spends the majority of the show not practicing
tell me again who wanted it more
>>138994260
?
My post was saying that Smile did have talent.
>>138994412
someone with talent who works hard will always be better than someone who just works hard
>>138994573
Peco, seeing as how he pulled himself outta a slump and actually pushed. Do you think he just spent the whole series chasing girls and showed up at the end with a haircut and just swept the floor?
There's people on /a/ dumb enough to not get Ping Pong.
Makes you wonder what kind of shows is simple enough for them.
>>138993890
Are you retarded?
I literally said that devotion beating talent is a fucking lie.
Why do you say the exact same thing as me while saying "sorry to burst your bubble"?
Learn to read, you fucking retard.
>>138994643
>pulled himself outta a slump
guess who didnt go into a slump
guess who practiced the entire time
smile
smile deserved to win at the end. maybe peco was better, but he didnt deserve it
>>138993890
damn I guess you don't have a talent for reading comprehension you dumb motherfucker
>>138994756
Lotta people on /a/ also argue about Dragon Ball power levels, there are tons of threads dedicated to shitty LNs, and most of them were maybe born after 2000 at this point. We live in a day where people want shit spelled out for them in a super direct fashion rather than allowing us to fill in the gaps and understand what they're telling us. It's certainly not the worst thing, but the idea of even a show like Ping Pong somehow goes over people is just downright sad. It's not even deep or has layers, it pretty much visually states a lot of what the characters are doing and feeling.
>>138994831
>maybe peco was better
He is
>>138993424
ITT: Cucks who never accomplished anything in their lives and blame it on the world just being that way.
No wonder you guys never amounted to shit.
>>138993424
>>138993573
>Devotion beats talent
Wot. That's not the point of the show.
Talent + hardwork > Hardwork
Hardwork > Talent
If Y is more talented than X, then X can never beat Y given both of them have the same amount of hardwork.
Also, Peco has always been implied of having the best talent among the whole cast, winning shitloads of tourneys in his childhood.
Obaba even told Joe that Peco's talent surpasses Dragon's.
>Peco recruited Smile into his dojo
>Obaba discovered Smile also has a similar talent and polished him
>Peco grew complacent, relying purely on his talent. He got so full of himself, skipped practice, and eventually became worse than Smile
>Akuma has severe astig, thus he can never beat a normal person with normal eyesight no matter how hard he trains.
>>138995076
Pretty much this.
In Dragon's case, he only played for his family and status and didn't have fun with it or wanted to play it in that way for the longest time, By the time he did play it for fun, it was too late for him to win with the skills he had so far.
>>138994620
And?
Ever heard of Masahiko Kimura?
Kimura No mae Ni Kimura Naku, Kimura No Ato Ni Kimura Nashi
>>138993890
>Hurr durr, I'm pulling meaningless percentages outta my ass.
>>138993424
I don't really care about hard work beating talent. It only started becoming dumb when hard work with a fucked up knee beat talent.
You don't fucking play at a high level with a fucked up knee, that's just not how this shit works.
>>138995171
No, tell me
>>138995231
t. doesn't play sports
>>138995231
>You don't fucking play at a high level with a fucked up knee, that's just not how this shit works.
Do you not get involved with sports or only watch movies pertaining to them? People with torn knees will finish a match before being carried off.
>>138993803
>Demon and Dragon lose
???
>>138993890
Talent is just an excuse.
>It's not that I didn't put enough effort into it, my opponent just had more talent
Sure certain people are better at certain things but you can learn it nonetheless, even if it's harder for you.
>>138994928
And if a show is subtle and has passion in it, it's just pretentious.
Well people just watch anime because they can't handle reality anyways, so why have standards? ;^)
Peco is the most talented though
But hes also a lazy bum. But he still easily beat everyone because he trained like a week
>>138995076
Nothing more left to say. I'm really surprised at the fact that there exist people who weren't even able to figure this much out, the show was pretty fucking simple.
>>138995438
Didn't he train for a few months before the last tournament?
>>138994604
Smile did have talent but peco had much more.
I really wish retards wouldn't watch anime. I mean if anime is too deep for you then you seriously have something wrong with you and should be given disability benefits or something.
My captcha is appropriate.
>>138993757
/thread desu
>>138995438
>>138995511
Don't forget that he trained with the nip adult representatives since Obaba's son is in charge of the athlete's camp.
That's the best Japan has to offer right there.
>>138995624
They BOTH had devotion and talent, but Peco also had the love of the game in him, something which Smile lost sight of along the way. He managed to get it back eventually, but by then, winning wasn't what was actually important.
>>138995624
>>138995746
replied to the wrong post
So we all agree that Smile didn't throw the match right? Peco beat him fair and square.
>>138995526
>if anime is too deep for you
>generalizing all of anime
>>138995781
yes
>>138993424
It doesn't. Smile intentionally lost just like butterfly Joe did
>>138995781
I'm surprised anyone thinks otherwise
>>138995848
Smile lost because he wasn't good enough. >>138995455
This thread makes me want to re-watch.
>>138995848
Kek. They literally say that smile tried his hardest and still lost.
Kong is best boy.
>>138993424
Devotion + talent > Devoted but lacking in talent > Talented but lazy
No matter how talented you are, there's only so much you can learn without putting in the time.
>>138995255
The greatet judoka off all time.
there once was a rumour in 1964 that Kimura would coming out of retirement and participate in the olympic games. judokas like isao inukama were scared of that possibility.Because in randori kimura could still easily beat them.
That was when Kimura was 47.
Kimura says most people are stuck were they are because of not properly having the basics down or a bad teacher.Hard work is meaningless if you do it wrong.
Read more about him here : http://judoinfo.com/kimura2.htm
>>138995171
Damn look at that guy's legs
Japs know how to leg day
>>138995914
I was pretty torn up when he started crying after he left home on the train.
>>138995983
It was the scenes with his mother that got to me
>>138995848
>holding back and intentionally loosing even though your opponents play isn't affected by his injury
Sure.
>>138995911
Same.
>>138996007
I'm weak to those types of scenes too. It didn't even seem to matter to her if he was winning or losing, she just wanted to see him again.
When did discussions about this show turn into such shit?
>>138996156
Some people don't understand what happened or hate it because how it looks/how much it's praised.
>>138996156
Well when did the first episode air? The dates are coincidentally the same
>>138996156
inb4
>When you arrived.
>>138993890
>posted from my basement
I've never known anyone who was truly devoted to bettering themselves at a task but was unable to at least become far above average.
Normalfags are un-devoted as fuck. On top of being stupid (or perhaps because they're stupid), they do the bare minimum needed to scrape by. They don't do much of anything to try to stand above the rank and file. Instead, they go home and browse facebook.
Of course, reaching the top 1% world elite in some skill requires talent, but if you're looking to become the biggest fish in a small pond, or if you're looking to become more than competent at some skill, devotion will suffice.
>>138993890
You say this because you've tried so hard to improve the quality of your shitposting, and your failure to do so shows.
>>138996202
>people are un-devoted as fuck.
>they go home and browse 4chan
ftfy
>>138996400
I was thinking something along those lines.
>>138995526
nigga what the fuck are you even talking about? I said Smile and Peco had talent you dumbass nigger.
>>138996510
> >>138993424 (OP) Peco WAS talented. The guy who was all practice and no talent lost.
This is literally an implication that Smile has no talent when he's literally all talent
>>138996631
I'm not OP you faggot.
>>138993890
It's a doggy dog world out there eh
>>138996652
And i didn't quote OP either?
>>138996631
He's referring to Akuma, not Smile. See >>138994260
I would believe in talent if most of the people considered talented hadn't been practicing their shit since they were 10.
>>138996156
Since plebs misunderstood the show's theme as the merits of hard work and talent. Not surprising though, really.
