>Watched Yu-gi-oh when still being a kid
>The new movie makes me interested in the card game again
>Start to watch the following shows
>Feel a little lost with too many new cards and mechanics
>Want to build an old-school deck that can compete to new ones
Is there any way? Please help me /a/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L26npE6Z9Hg
>>138912915
Just learn the new blue eyes meta.
>>138912915
>Want to build an old-school deck that can compete to new ones
Impossible. Look up 'Pendulum Summoning' to see what you'd have to compete against.
Each new season was made to sell cards, so naturally, each new deck was more broken that its predecessor.
>>138912915
Blue-Eyes is one of the top tier decks right now. Every set has nostalgia support meant to lift up an old theme. Just go to /vg/ and ask them about it.
I remember about 5 years ago I built an old school dragon deck based mostly on Kaiba's that would occasionally win. That's the problem with these kinds of card games that are companions to vidya or shows, the old cards always end up obsolete.
Also, isn't this more /tg/ or /wsr/? Or does /tg/ frown on Yu-gi-oh?
Is there a way to make a Joey deck viable?
>>138913030
>does /tg/ frown on Yu-gi-oh?
It's pretty much Naruto there. Go to /vg/ for /dng/.
>>138913068
yes yes, vromoli
>>138913075
>It's pretty much Naruto there
Why?
>>138912915
>new rules
Here are the rules:
>MC wins.
Done.
>>138913137
YGO is the most cancerous TCG out there.
The game design is so pathetically bad and the player base is significantly worse than you can imagine.
The Konami corporate money scheme is very obvious too. They push their agenda so hard with power creeps just to sell cards. And they always kill their secondary market too.
>>138913200
Nah man, the MC getting blown the fuck out is the new hotness. Yuya keeps getting his ass kicked left and right, and only now he'll probably going to win.
>>138912915
Get out of your shitty nostalgia phase and actually learn the game from its meta roots up and until now.
>>138912970
It's not even BEWD alone. It's mixed with the new annoying Felgrand support.
>>138913004
Yeah. Pendulum summoning isn't very fun when it's PePe or hurr durr tier Qliphort.
>>138913007
I liked the REBD support. It was cute.
>>138913068
Do not. Please.
>>138913137
Because it's honestly a terrible meta. You're better off playing fun decks with real friends than trying to be good.
Also I'm ex-tryhard who mained everything meta up until about last.. December? Kozmo was the last thing I made. I sold everything when the prices inflated my Dark Destroyers to like 140. Then E-BAN LIST. Then lol reprints.
The game is honestly pretty cheap and good if you want to actually play it. But do not play it based on nostalgia. Getting on DN and seeing those people demanding NO FUSION, SYNCHRO, XYZ, PENDULUM, GOD CARDS ( lol ) OR HEROES are like the scum and worst people obsessed with the game.
But don't mind me. I've just been playing Galaxy because Kaito in Arc V soon and making Cyber Dragon Infinity every day.
Yes. I hate fun.
>>138912915
Exodia stall with accumulated fortune draw engine
Piss off adhd kids with absurdly expensive beatdown decks by playing solitaire for 5 minutes then winning (sometimes)!
>>138913335
Tbqh I'm fine with banning XYZ and Pendulum.
So much more shot is viable in those matches, it makes for some fun deckbuilding and theorycrafting.
>>138913425
Okay. I'll side in Mind Crush when your bad combo makes the 8% chance of coming through.
>>138913427
Xyz are fine and neat and viable in every deck. Pendulum really isn't.
Take it away and I'm pretty sure we just go back to make a Trish or Quasar as the game winner. Really, it's pendulum that ruined it.
>>138912958
Isn't pot of greed and the god cards banned?
>>138913706
Yes. So is Graceful Charity. So... lolyugi. Not to mention all the meta decks in the video were being played like shit.
>>138913007
So Blue-eyes are still the top dog after so many years? Cool? But how about Summoned Skull? Can I make a Summoned Skull deck too?
>>138912958
Well, this one is amazing.
>>138913763
BEWD supporting a Felgrand deck, yes. Not even really BEWD. No. No you cannot make Summoned Skull into a deck.
>>138913772
Meta decks are being played like shit and the draws are full of banned cards and 100% luck.
>>138913427
Xyz are objectively a better and more flexible mechanic than synchros,I don't get why people get mad at xyz and yet allow synchros in the game.
>>138913835
>100% luck
Just like true Yugi then.
>>138913007
>Blue-Eyes is one of the top tier decks right now
dohohoho
Kozmo shits all over Blue Eyes and you're better off playing Felgrand with Dragunities.
>>138913763
>still
It was dogshit for a decade before now.
>>138913838
THANK YOU.
>>138913857
And thank YOU. I'm gonna be sad when E-Tele gets limited this week.
>>138913851
FAIR ENOUGH.
I stopped caring about Yugioh when 5D´s came out. also when those XYZ-Fuison-things came out.
i had a LVL 3 5 7 Magic swordsman warrior deck back then....good times, good times...
>>138912915
DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!
Short answer: No.
Longer answer: Nooooooooooooooo
Even longer answer: The meta has power creeped way too much for anything old to even be relevant. They had to make retrained/upgraded versions of old cards so some players could experience their nostalgia again. And that wasn't enough so they had to release a retrained retrained version of old cards. And then that didn't work so they had to release retrained retrained retrained versions of old cards. If you want a perfect example of this just look at the Dark Magician cards and how the newer cards become inevitably more complex and powerful just to be usable in the meta. Keyword -usable- , not powerful but just -usable-.
>>138913427
XYZ is far more fun and better than synchros
>>138913068
Obligatory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks-_oNSNbeQ
>>138914182
>i had a LVL 3 5 7 Magic swordsman warrior deck
Which was never viable in any actual meta ever.
What the fuck happened to Yu-Gi-Oh. I remember back when just sacrificing cards to lay down a Blue Eyes was impressive but I see videos of people summoning 7 monsters in one turn then fusing them into some sort of 15,000 attack monster what the fuck
>>138912915
>Want to build an old-school deck that can compete to new ones
Hahahahahahahaha
>>138914791
>7
Someone post maxx c challenge.
>>138914791
It started going a bit faster.
It's still exactly the same game, yugioh is all about building a big board that your opponent can't break.
>>138914774
i did rather well against buddys, never went to tournaments at all
>>138914791
It's still impressive now to see someone sacrificing 2 monsters to summon BEWD.
>>138914791
Why does anybody who doesn't follow the game somehow get confused when things are different?
Like you think shit is going to be the same over 15 fucking years later
>>138914231
>>138913004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN2ijXLYxv0
>>138914774
Did you play online with that deck?
>>138914874
That's the problem. Most people who complain about modern Yu-Gi-Oh only played against their friends back in middle school/high school who had equally shitty decks while they never had to deal with the shitty meta that was around back then.
Yu-Gi-Oh was always shit if not downright broken.
>>138914898
What the hell is this?
You can probably find fun by building stupid, stupid shit that sometimes work and piss the shit out of people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR5vfBE_fnE
>>138915068
Yugioh Boss Tournaments with Anime card effects and no ban list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OWo7Sy8xSQ
>>138913838
Because all of the good synchros are archetype specific, but all of the overpowered rank 4s are generic.
>>138913335
>It's not even BEWD alone. It's mixed with the new annoying Felgrand support.
>simply triple Gospel is "annoying"
Might as well take out all those MSTs, Twin Twisters, and the rest of the staples, son, take out everything not named "Blue-eyes White Dragon" too.
>>138915343
Arkbrave is also a 1 of that pretty much all builds run.
Sometimes they run neo new Felgrand too but that's it
>>138912915
I still play the legacy of the duelist ps4 game sometimes
I have so much fun with the BEWD deck, as it is one of the few oldies that has very good support, not tier 1, but certainly much better than anything else back when the game first appeared
>>138915414
Arkbrave>Irritum play is just used when the meta is focused on the extra deck, now it's not as dominating, they starting to drop it, because Dracopals are dead, for real, now.
It might still be played, but there's nothing much to be revived from the grave.
Felgrand should be played on a dedicated deck, it has no place in a BEWD deck.
nigga last time i watched, he used some barrel bullshit to kill that op sky dragon lel
>>138914959
>fusion/synchro/xyz/pendulum broke the game
>BLS/teleDAD/judgement dragon/countless other stupid shit was fine!
My favourite meme
>>138915512
>Arkbrave>Irritum
Did you read Arkbrave? It's not just for Irritum you dumbass, it can get a White Ka on the field for an SP banish, or new Felgrand to banish whatever
>Felgrand should be played on a dedicated deck, it has no place in a BEWD deck.
What kind of retard logic is this?
Welp guess no decks should run Brilliant Fusion because Gem Knights have no place outside of a GK deck, right?
>>138915332
We have more good generic synchros now.
Also another problem with synchros is the lack of good tuners.
>>138912915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp4fxe75810&feature=youtu.be&t=24s
>>138912958
>qli player doesn't just otk with disk turn 3
>>138915596
People also somehow tend to forget that stupidly high attack points are already a thing from way back. Lightsworns and deck-throwing Chimeratech are some examples.
>>138914959
This, idiots actually think the game used to be something that wasn't Axe of Despair and Injection Fairy Lily beatdown.
>>138915332
>all of the overpowered rank 4s are generic.
For example? Which generic rank 4 XYZ is "overpowered", to you?
>>138915737
replace overpowered with good
Remember seeing a pretty interesting BE RE Toon60 carddeck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m54cJ-yvsLs&t=7m29s
>>138915737
Shock Master?
GOAT FORMAT WAS SO MUCH BETTER I SWEAR GUYS - The Thread
>>138915332
Depends on how you define archetype specific. I dont recall Brionac being archetype specific.
Neither are Trish, Omega and friends.
>>138912915
>Want to build an old-school deck that can compete to new ones
Good luck
>>138913335
Yeah, you're right about that. Playing with my friends is pretty fun, but one of my friends knows tournament players and they are the worst people to play with. Their turns take 10 minutes and they take the game way too seriously.
>>138913335
This guy knows.
Then again OP, you can just be a scumbag, like all good stories in our beloved /a/-series let us know as usual. Make a stall deck, full stack with just a few other tricks, like milling, or direct damage, or just waiting until milling happens while nullifying/stopping everything. Impede special summons, use Spirit Reapers, Marshmallons and any sort of asshole card that would feel 'simple' and 'old school' to normal summon, then halt everything.
It's practically a cardy scaled version of life.
>>138915737
Rafflesia
Castel
SHARK
Ragnazero
Utopia into Lightning
Abyss Dweller
Shock Master (now banned)
Ptolemayy (now banned)
When you start counting the non-generic ones like Ophion, Laggia, etc. you start to see that R4 is fucking dgenerate in comparison to other ranks
>>138914959
I remember back in the day that if you had Summoned Skull and Axe of Despair in your hand you pretty much won the duel.
This shit was always broken. It's just more complex for newbies
>>138916040
>Ragnazero
>Abyss Dweller
>OP
lol
Dont mistake useful toolbox with overpowered.
>>138916040
Nyarla into Azatoth
>>138915830
It was banned, genius.
>>138915999
Those kind of deck will be instantly wrecked by current metas.
Build a monarch deck OP.
It's inexpensive, it stops the opponent from using their side deck. It's perfect for faggots like you.
Learn the game though, I think it's gotten better.
>>138916142
If your deck can R4 it has access to the entire toolox pretty much, and that's why it's overpowered
>>138916040
Yes, rank 4 is the most useful one, but the point is comparing it to synchro, not other xyz.
Rafflesia, SHARK, Ragnazero and Dweller are just too situational.
Castel is just good, not overpower.
The Lightning has its syncho counterpart.
>>138916260
What good will it make if it has no synchro material?
>>138916628
>The Lightning has its syncho counterpart.
Armades is 200 points weaker than even vanilla Utopia, it's not comparable at all
Star Eater is worse, being LV11 and all
>>138916698
Majesty's fiend effect
Present Exchange, Ra, Sparks
>>138916772
>Opponent will summon Ra at your command
>>138916743
>Majesty's fiend effect
For 1 turn?
>>138912915
I use an Orichalcos deck myself, OP.
>>138916743
>Odd-eyes Meteorburst Dragon
>>138916790
>Implying they won't
They do so surprisingly often
>>138916954
What kind of idiots have you been playing against?
>Expecting a TCG based off of a MTG clone featured as a one-time thing in a manga to be good
>Ever
Yata-lock 4 lyfe, nigga
>>138917168
When will they unban this card? It means shit nowadays.
Will the Pegasus Deck still be able to hold it's own in the current state of Yugioh?
>>138917265
His Toons got new supports, so maybe a chance.
>>138917265
Absolutely not. Lose Toon Kingdom and you die.
>>138917168
i miss the old days when chaos emperor dragon + witch of the black forest + yata garasu combo was the meta
>>138917265
>still
>>138913214
>player base is significantly worse than you can imagine.
All TCG player bases are fucking awful.
90% of mtg and yugioh players are annoying as fuck
>>138914898
Is this video supposed to prove something? 'Cause it really doesn't.
>>138917168
>that one popular rich kid whose parents bought him a complete Yata-lock deck
I'm fucking glad that Yata and CED will never come back.
>>138918838
This is /a/
>>138918838
No one is too old, we are all little girls here.
Play Madolche and Ghostrick.
>Loving the hell out of Super Quantums
>mfw all layers will go to one in the next banlist because Magnus too good
>>138920292
Are you retarded? They haven't done anything to affect any of the metas other than being a Monarch tribute engine, and if Monarchs were to be hit in the TCG there are cards that deserve a ban WAY more.
![Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX 036 - Misawa-cchi VS The Amazoness! The Marriage Duel [GLL99].avi_snapshot_03.56_[2016.03.19_16.11.32].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dZo5eOt.jpg "Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX 036 - Misawa-cchi VS The Amazoness! The Marriage Duel [GLL99].avi_snapshot_03.56_[2016.03.19_16.11.32].jpg")
>>138919344
Little girls shouldn't play Duel Monsters. It is a man's game.
>>138920611
Why did you post an image of the ocean?
>>138920611
Screw you floating Duel Disk
>>138916628
>rafflesia is too situational
>A card that can drop bottomless on will is situational
You just went full baka
>>138918838
That's exactly why we're playing it, only adults are allowed to play children card games.
>>138914791
>tfw Synchros are irrelevant but crazy shit can still happen
>>138920937
>>138921256
When exactly did this meme about Misawa being invisible become a thing? I've seen it before
>irrelevance through bricking
Such is the life of Synchros.
>>138920611
>It is a man's game.
Fuck you Mai was my first waifu
>>138916040
You forgot Nuke Roach my boy the most degenerate
>>138922754
how could I possibly forged about the excited bug of boardwipes
he truly was too good for this world
>>138922246
Le blank is funy as hell, but goddamnit when will people learn that infernoids are designed to play alone for a reason. I am tired of hearing idiots talk about reasoning and the ls engine when pure noids with the void support shits on them so much it's not even funny
>>138916142
Abyss Dweller is very powerful. There are tons of monsters that float now. Having Abyss Dweller out stops that and essentially stops key plays.
>>138922745
She's pretty, but she's a bad duelist.
>>138923439
At least harpies are solid for a rogue deck.
>>138922406
He's the only dude that tries to do things that make actual sense and was initially set up to be a competent rival,only to be relegated to literal background-tier for the rest of the show.
tl;dr he show shat on him and he was disappointing
>>138923573
So did this "floating duel disk" joke exist since GX or is it more recent?
>>138923573
His ace was water dragon, so nah.
This guy is now pretty easy to summon. When will we have Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth turbo?
>>138923883
Forgot pic
The problem is OP that you will always lose under current Meta because almost all cards are 0.
While you get a -1 when you use a card.
In 2 turns you are without a hand and your opponent has 6 of them on hand and 5 on the field.
>>138912958
Holy shit I haven't seen so many bad players before.
Its hard to win with older decks but if you manage to pull it off it is truly satisfying.I once beat Quilphorts with Destiny Heroes and it felt so good.
>>138923573
I still can't believe Misawa was one of the 5 only GX characters to have a story mode in Tag Force Special. I expected Johan, Sho or even Rei before him.
Makes me wonder if he could show up in Arc-V
>>138912915
>Want to build an old-school deck that can compete to new ones
Anything that hasn't received support in the last 2 years might as well be dead in the water, aside from Chain Burn
>>138925809
You mean summoned skull beatdown can't defeat kozmo?
Does a Jinzo deck work at all anymore?
>>138926429
>plushfire
That adjusted list still feels good. I just hope we have a meta nuke like in the ocg
>>138926410
ded since Future Fusion's ban.
>>138914640
I miss that guy, he always made fun duels that were great to watch.
>At some point this was possible
>>138926410
It got some new support, but it wasn't enough to make it competitive.
Maybe some day the pendulum of nostalgia will swing its way and it will get more support
best girl, y/n?
>>138929512
Best girl indeed. Do you have more of this?
>>138929807
I know for a fact that the pixiv artist updated it to include all the new BEWD support
>>138930247
I'll have to look for it. The world needs more Kisaras. Including her priestess cosplay
I just love these old players from the past bitching about how fast and what you can do in a certain turn. Oh boohoo I want my tribute summon 1 boss monster and feel proud of yourself. Oh yes that truly the best times in yugioh where the games were slow and getting over a big monster was everything.
The game is much better now and more varied. I much prefer this format than say the goat format or the shitty 06 format. Fuck that nonsense.
>>138930856
I love that Blue-Eyes is finally the engine of destruction its flavor text says
>>138913214
>always kill their secondary market too
But that's a good thing.
So, what is supposed to be so good about phantom knights again? Every time I play against them they just die while barely scratching me but everybody hypes them as a dominant deck
There are new red eyes support so you can make a red-eyes deck.
>>138932886
Old news
>>138932429
Nobody hypes them up by themselves but together with burning abyss they make a great combo.
>>138933703
So far their combos with burning abyss work better in burning abyss though
>>138913335
>Get out of your shitty nostalgia phase and actually learn the game from its meta roots up and until now.
Fuck you. The meta is shit.
>>138933824
Pretty much.
Phantom Knights are merely tools to keep BA relevant
>>138922130
>Implying all decks have to have bottomless
Beside, there is a high chance you draw it in the first turn.
>>138924000
Isn't there anyway for me to draw more cards?
>>138912958
they need to do a pepe and druler one
So is there any way to play this game with a 15 year old deck without having people throw fits about half my cards being banned or putting my deck next to a case of beer and sarcastically play the game with friends while drunk?
>>138913335
Konami is really fucking bad with powercreep and what they put on the banlist to push new product. I hate how old cards are completely outlclassed now and you are FORCED to buy new ones. There should be better synergy with old and new cards but instead we're just getting retrains which still render those old cards obsolete. Konami fucked this game over ages ago.
>>138937622
Just download Yugioh pro and it will tell you automatically which cards are banned while making your deck.
>>138937907
But then there goes half my cards.
>>138913214
I don't play TCGs but from interactions I can tell you that the most cancerous people are hearthstone players that left a previous card game. following that is MTG and then it's YGO. I haven't met anyone who even knows how to play the pokemon card game.
>>138914791
Blue eyes was never a viable card, ever, nobody ever tributes to summon blue eyes.
>>138914791
it was never, ever like this at a competitive level. What you are remembering is playing yugioh, probably wrong, at the play ground when you were 10.
The games always been broken shit full of 1 turn OTK bullshit, expensive cards, and banning good things to sell new packs that are 99% full of useless cards.
Thats what makes it fun.
>>138917088
you realize MTG came after yugioh right? also fuck off with your shitty Eldrazi bullshit.
I dont know I just use Lightsworn,
>>138938215
enjoy decking out before you dent most decks that fuck you out of JD
>>138938175
>MTG came after yugioh right?
>right?
Wrong.
When will konami hit reasoning in the tcg lads?
>>138938175
are you retarded? YuGiOh, the manga chapters that invented the game, were based on Magic the Gathering. Magic had a head start on it by years.
>>138938338
What is the best way to counter lightsworn?
>>138938594
play darklaw, it literally kills their deck and they have barely any outs to it.
or use abyss dweller idk
>>138912915
That's sorta nostalgic, summoned skull used to be my favorite card back in the day.
So /a/, what do you think about this card?
>>138938594
play a decent deck
I have been out of Yugioh for nearly a year. Are there any new archetypes that are good against Nekroz and Shaddolls? I hear that Kozmo is great but it seems quite flawed.
>>138939185
Yuto's cards are out
>>138939185
Nekroz and shadoll are dead, konami burned them to the ground
Is Yugioh even still alive what with the Konami suicide and everything?
>>138939478
Yes, the tcg department has almost nothing to do with the game department in konami, and that's why the yugioh games have been absolute shit for the last few years
>>138912970
>>138913007
>>138913335
>>138913835
I stopped playing around the time of Qli's and Nekroz. Burning Abyss and Nekroz kept triggering me since every locals I went to was crawling with them. Is Blue-Eyes really a top-tier deck now, and did the game slow down a bit or is it even faster now?
I had a FF deck I was building at the time, and I stopped without ever getting the last wolfbark. Would FF even be able to hold their own against the meta now or it just beyond fucked?
>>138939765
Yes, blue eyes is top tier, it's not a tier 0 deck, but it's definitely meta.
It got faster, games are usually decided in 2-3 turns, sometimes 1
No, firefists are too slow, and their powerplays are too weak to stand against the meta
>>138939818
Well shit, I'll wait till Konami shits on every deck and the meta slows a bit like it did around the H.A.T format.
