Best Girls, this is undeniable FACT!
>>136309814
Yeah, well unfortunately the anime is deadset of making one of them as unpalatable as possible.
>>136310149
Imagine what he'd do to Yuuko.
>>136311248
No, I'm not. Beatrix may be my Schwarzefu, but Beatrix is my Franchisefu.
>>136311300
Exactly. Just imagine what the Kiminozo director would do to her.
>>136311346
I'm not, because I'd probably have a stroke.
>>136311300
>Beatrix is my Franchisefu.
Meant to say Yuuko is my Franchisefu, but whatever
Its amazing how irrelevant Gretel is in the anime.
They don't realize that she's a major character.
>>136311774
It's okay, I figured that's what you meant from the context.
>>136312021
Gotta make room for Katia. Don't you know, she's the main heroine. Also, I wonder if they'll get to explaining Beatrix's line about Gretel growing up or if they'll leave it hanging (the two have history).
Does anyone have that image guide to playing the Muvluv and Muvluv Alternative handy? I don't want to be a filthy secondary anymore, but I don't know where to begin.
>>136312223
It's really easy.
Play MuvLuv Extra, all routes (Warning, Slutmine's route may make your blood boil)
You should be able to figure out what to do from there.
>>136312187
Fricking Katia. She's the least popular of the heroines (excepting the piss drinkers).
>>136312662
Katia is cute, though.
>>136312970
Beatrix, Iris, Sylwia, and Vivi were all cuter at 14-15 then Katia was.
>>136312255
Ayamine is best girl
>>136314134
She's at least better than Chizuru.
>>136314100
Simply wrong.
>>136314255
I will fight you.
>>136314385
You heard right. Name the time and place.
Hommussar is best girl.
Absolutely the best.
>>136314814
So these are polandballs's friends?
Which one is the TRAITOR?
I want Katia to be happy.
>>136314834
Shame she isn't much of a character in the anime.
I was really looking forward to her antics. Theo/Gretel are so entertaining together.
>>136315870
She'll hopefully have her time to shine, as will all the girls.
>>136315975
Her only time to shine will be when shetakes theos hot slab into her stomach
>>136316968
>>136316968
Why does she have so many gurofags?
>>136311247
17 years old!
>>136309814
>waifuing Beatrix
tch
>>136318808
tch
>>136318808
Grep some Spreewaldgurken and fuck off Theo.
>>136318808ara-ara
>>136319000tch
>>136319000
Another Mop-Rub entry for the sip threads.
>>136319000
>>136319103
Not sure, but I think they are flirting
>>136319103
>>136319000*psssh*
>>136319000
I just realised that Beat has also an double ahoge.
>>136319287
ARA
R
A
>>136319287
Don't bully Katia.
>>136319309
Could growing the ahoge be what turned her evil?
>>136319287
What do you think her pee tastes like?
>>136319414
Ask the Japanese, they seem to be urine connoisseurs.
>>136310149
I haven't read Schwarzesmarken, but exactly what have they cut/changed with Beatrix so far?
I know that she'strying to buy time for people to flee to the West before the BETA inevitably overrun East Germanyor somesuch but it's not like the anime has had time to get into that yet.
>>136319479
Speaking of connoisseurs, post Beato drinking tea like the evil bitch she really is.
>>136315648
Germany lost ww2 anon
>>136319522
*sluuurrrppp*
>>136319496
LNfag here, please don't start this. This thread is fun, don't drag it down like this.
I'm still trying to remain optimistic about everything.
>>136319522
Funny, Iris is the one who loves tea.
Let's take a look at Theo's socializing lessons
>>136319551
Losing a war seems like a lesser problem in this universe.
>>136319633
its the same thing anon
>>136319609
>>136319623
What an awful woman. She was sitting there in her fortified suit and just staring at the TSF.
>>136319688
Irisfag here but can't blame her. That TSF was sexy as hell
>>136319688
While drinking tea too! Can't possibly get any worse than that!She sortied in the VN, saved Iris, then rubbed in her face. She does it again in TSFiA.
>>136319192
>>136319287
Always the third wheel aren't you, katia?
>>136319688
That's what makes it so hilarious, she's all geared up, then at the last minute she's like "eh, they'll be fine".
>>136317343
No, it's just that anons here just like to makepenetrationjokes about Beatrix.
>>136311247
Why are her thighs so thick?
Someone call Iris, Beatrix is NTRing her. Again
>>136317343
>>136319900
I get both a guro boner and justice boner when thinking about her death.
She's so hot and sexy, but those looks aren't going to excuse her from all the evil shit she did, and she pays the price by getting that sexy body of hers crushed into paste.
>>136319496
They put in a couple of extra scenes to maximize her evilness while removing the other scenes that humanize her or add ambiguity, or just flat out changing them to put her in an evil light. That's about it really.
I kind of dislike the focus on Beatrix. I mean, other characters are getting it rough too. No one wants to talk about what they're doing to Gretel, who's a pretty major character all things considered.
>>136319974
kcch
>>136309814
i'm a bit confused. someone in an earlier thread said that alternative and unlimited were already translated, but then what is the kickstarter for? just so that it can get a console release?
>>136319974
Eh?
Is it bad that I want Beatrix to piss on me?
>>136320259
Kickstarter was for legitly selling this stuff in the west.
>>136320306
It's pretty bad that you ask that every thread. Besides, even if Beatrix is one of the best girls, Katia still sets the gold standard for piss.
>>136320357
Ignore it, it's some memester.
http://desustorage.org/a/search/text/%22is%20it%20bad%20that%20I%20want%22%20%22to%20piss%20on%20me%22/
>>136315610
The one in the back, she looks shifty.
is the schwarzesmarken LN being translated?
>>136320576
No. Only the first chapters.
>>136320658
what about the first VN?
>>136320692
Translation never
SYLWIA A BEST
>>136319910
>>136319338
>>136319287
>>136319103
>>136319000
Dumb assholes
>>136319000
>>136319103
>>136319287
>>136319910opens bottle
>>136320871
Alright Kczynksisisiskici
>>136320932
Nie Kurwa
daily reminder that extra is best muv luv
>>136321184
Wait till SM Extra is out
>>136321236
Still won't be a Beatoroutebecause she'll be a Bernhard
>>136321280
As long as Theo has a maid cafe, everything will be pardoned
>>136320907
shiranui a shit!
Moonreader here. Should I read the schwarzesmarken vn?
>>136321489
It's better than watching the anime.
>>136321460
>>136321489
Read something actually good
>>136321489
It's a pretty good VN honestly, go for it, though it might lessen your enjoyment of the anime. Actually, you could play the VN as you watch the anime. That way, you'll catch the changes. The VN still cuts some thing out from the LN, so if you want the whole story, you'll have to go for those, but like I said, it's a good VN and it's only 15-18 hours long.
>>136321489
Well it sure beats the anime, at least it didn't cut too much from the LN.
Oh and Theo is only partly voiced in it though.
>>136321726
It actually makes him way more tolerable. He doesn't sound like a sassy black woman. Also, VN Theo is way more endearing. Those facial expressions he has just makes you want to hug him. Then again, everyone is more huggable in the VN.
>>136321902
Theodor is a faggot
Posting best Mub Blub
>>136322199
The shit he does is lot worse than in the anime, but he still manages to be way more sympathetic. Maybe it's just because he always looks like a kicked puppy, or maybe it's because his monologuing makes it easier for you to insert yourself into his situation and empathize with him (even if he's usually in the wrong).
>>136321902
>It actually makes him way more tolerable
Really?
I always found him tolerable and interesting but whenever he wasn't voiced I was annoyed because it seemed like it was cheap especially scenes I thought were important.
(e.g., 目的がある, 最後の灯火)
>>136321236
The timing does seem to be right for a Beato Maniax; age does them for those topping the chara polls (Akane, Haruko, Melvina), and she's topping the polls this time around (Irisdina doesn't count as she's a love interest).
>>136322629
Implying she isn't already a heroine/love interest.
Grappler-san best BETA!
>>136322629
How likely is that popularity going to last with the anime making her out to be female anti-Christ?
>>136323298
Biggest jobber you mean
>>136322629
>Beato Maniax
Never since Yukarin doesn't do ero.
Closest thing you might get is Lise Maniax and she's the most popular heroine after Iris, but I'm not sure if her seiyuu still does ero.
>>136323298
Grapplers are betas of BETA
>>136323351
The anime will pull a "she was only pretending ;_;" and stupid otaku will eat it up.
>>136323298
That's not Lux-chan.
>>136323703
As a Beatofag, I would be extremely angry. It'd absolutely trivialize her vendetta with Iris.
>>136323509
AkaMani technically didn't have H-scenes.
>>136323351
The Maniaxes are FC-exclusive, so I would guess the FC votes are the ones which will count, not so much the non-FC animufags.
>>136322629
If they really wanted a Beatrix centered VN, they'd just adapt BiS and be done with it. They probably will too, considering how popular teenage Beato is with Japs.
>>136324034
B-but muh SM Extra;_;
>>136322475
Stop falling for the Master's Propaganda.
>>136324138
No, YOU accept the Master as your incredibly dashing leader!
I really hope that their next VN is an actual continuation of the post-alternative storyline. I think Chronicles is pretty shitty.
>>136324221
My lord and savior.
Iris bullying Theo and Theo tch'ing, is the best form of flirting iv ever seen. please tell me there's more to this!
>>136323703
>anime will pull a "she was only pretending ;_;"
>"I was merely pretending guys, I'm on your side"
>Theo: Fuck you! *penetration intensifies*
>>136324012
FC, as in fan club, right?
Also, looking at 2ch and Baidu (Chinese 2ch basically) threads and they're getting pissed off at ignorant animu fags flooding their forums with their incomplete analyses or questions.
>>136324681
>pissing intensifies
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.12_[2016.01.17_13.49.57].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8fJ6SDO.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.12_[2016.01.17_13.49.57].jpg")
>>136323703
Yes, but how would /a/ react?
>>136322629
>she's topping the polls this time around
Where? There was that string of polls she won a few months ago but I haven't heard anything since. Did they have any new polls?
Stalker where are you?
I have a webm request.
>>136320922
>>136321542
>>136324806
>sounds of nukes intensifies
>>136326254
>>136327347
They should have shown how her face was basically mush.
Im on half of alternative thank you anon who reccomended me to endure extra until the end
>>136328077
Looks fine to me
>>136324751
>FC, as in fan club, right?
Correct. The Maniaxes are fandiscs and normally don't get sold to non-FC members, and aren't necessarily plot contributors (AkaMani's Normal End being an exception as it leads directly into Extra; the True End is as wacky as Gohda's character can be). It's the reason /m/ and /jp/ was constantly saying back in '09 and '10 that
> HaruMani never;_;
until somebody found and posted a HongFire link.t. >>>/m/5944143
>>136328165
Not edgy enuff.
I'm just going off how the LN described it though.
>>136323298
Grappler-kun, certainly is pretty cute, but he jobs to little girls.
Friendly reminder that the backerkit survery deadline is this week on the 20th
Don't forget to fill it out, especially if you want your gift bag delivered early 2016 instead of the fall.
>>136326254
Are you still there, what's your request?
>>136325251
>Where? There was that string of polls she won a few months ago but I haven't heard anything since. Did they have any new polls?
By "this time around" I meant as relating to age's release cycle. AkaMani for KimiNozo, HaruMani for Muv-Luv, MelMani for TDA/Chronicles in general, and __Mani for Schwaken. Only TE got left out it seems.
>>136328657
Oh, and I forgot to mention age Maniax for the original KimiIta + Kaseki no Uta + Rasen Kairou.
So when are they making a proper sequel to alternative? Where they go to the moon or something
>>136328437
>Tell myself I'm going to use my Christmas money to buy the TSF Jacket
>Never get around too it since I'd have to open a new bank account and transfer funds and all that
>Still have all the cash but won't get my Jacket till the Fall
I'm going to my bank this weekend, but fuck I'm mad that I didn't get around to it sooner. Oh well, at least I'll get it.
Now all I gotta do is finally start working out so I can be swole enough to pretend I'd be a TSF Pilot instead of some scrawny drafted infantrymen
>>136323298
Doesn't Warrior-kun has an higher kill count?
Why is Beatrix so best?
>>136324998
Literally Hitler.
>>136328437
if I already filled it out can I go back and change things? I had to move a month ago and wasn't able to set up mail forwarding. I might have to move again in the next month or two so I may be fucked anyway though. is there an email I can contact to explain my situation?
>>136328841
Grappler in both TE and Alt is the BETA class that knocks out Bratty Savior and Top Gun.
>>136329145
Grappler only score assists, never actual kill.
I miss the at least you tried girl from TE.
>>136329268
I know but a Grappler wrecked Takeru's Fubuki during the XM3 Trials, and a Grappler nearly disables and destroys the arm of Yuuya's Shiranui 1C Phase 1 at Russia.
>>136329626
>>136329268
>>136329145
>>136328841
>>136328436
>>136323798
>>136323658
>>136323412
>>136323298
>>136329268
you see Ivan, if you kite bloodsucker into bandits, you claim all kills for yourself
>>136329656
DELETE THIS
>>136329896
>>136309814
From looking at this from the thumnail I thought this was goofy.
>>136329353
Who was that?
>>136329353
Nobodies never count.
>>136329656
>>136331056
Only if you finally fuck your Brother Yui.
>>136331204
ALL OF THEM
>>136331056
wonder if she still faps to her onichan despite knowing they are blood related an all that.
>>136331381
She's still single in the timeskip TSFiA short where she's in her 30s. What do you think?Also that one or another implies the "test pilot" is Yuuya with an alias.
>>136331258
Guter Mann.
>>136331427
Theodor is such an edgy faggot.
>>136331204
50000 babies
minimum
>>136331427
I-inya?
>>136331455
>>136331418
>>136331204
Does anyone else find it actually endearing how much Yuimouto wants her oniichan?
>>136331515
>>136331427
Why does Yuuya look like Takeru there?
>>136331589
He's been obviously possesed by the Spirit of our Bratty Saviour, otherwise he would be chasing TSFs not girls.
>>136331589
Artist was lazy with Yuuya's bangs and hair color
>>136331639
They show him getting in bed with Cryska in the PC version of the VN
>>136329746
Good advice, Grigori. One that all BETA except Grappler seem to have learnt.
>>136331589
It's the hair, isn't it.
>>136331666
Its not the first time Nip fan artists have made Yuuya look similar to Takeru.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_15.57_[2016.01.18_14.10.09].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mDRQnSu.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 01 [720p].mkv_snapshot_15.57_[2016.01.18_14.10.09].jpg")
>>136315648
Shut up
>>136331418
>>136331539
Their kid would sure have alot of that takamura genes.
>>136319623
I don't know shit about muv-luv but I think this is the best girl
>>136332000
Is there an updated pic of this? Just curious.
I've just started KGNE today and should finish it later today and then start working on Extra.
Setup a Windows XP VM to play through Extra too, so I don't have to deal with crashes during the playthrough.
>>136322629
Let's not jump the gun here.
MelMani was announced five years ago (for comparison, Haruka was only in a coma for three) and there's still barely any info about it. They haven't even updated the site since it was launched.
>>136333483
you know how many shit they went through five years ago? It's a miracle they are fine now
>>136332179
>I've just started KGNE todayYou really shouldn't watch this before Muv-Luv as you might end up hating someone that's a great character in ML by doing so.
>>136332179
I don't think so.
>>136332179
So what need to be updated or add? I only know that Chronicles 01 and 02 are now translated. I kinda want to fix and add the layout too.
>>136319103
He's annoying me to no end with this shit. Reminds me of that one blue faggot from K, couldn't stand him either.
>>136322475
Pretty much. In the anime he's just an annoying dick. He doesn't have that god he's so pathetic I pity him character about him.
>>136333966
i'm anime only fag, and him still feel pathetic and paranoid.
Why does the Stasi operate their own TSF squadrons? The way they are depicted they're reminding me more of the SS than of the actual Stasi. Literal nazi communists.
>>136334188
Because apparently their current minister is trying to turn the DDR into his own kingdom so he expand the Stasi into having their own military and such.
>>136334188
The Stasi had their own military units in RL, and its not rare to have Intelligence Agencies in general to have Paramilitary or Military Units.
>>136334188
You know KGB had their own paramilitary troops too right
>>136334243
Pretty sure they didn't have their own tanks or fighter jets or other heavy equipment of that sort.
>>136333834
Depends on how detailed we want it to be. Manga adaptations aren't mentioned even though I think they existed when the picture was made.
Total Eclipse: LN/VN/anime finished. VN translation ongoing.
Schwarzesmarken: LN/VN finished and anime airing. LN translation ongoing. I've seen people talk about a sequel but I don't know about that.
>>136334328
True, but if your job is to prevent defectors from taking their TSFs with them, you need something that can fight TSFs reliably.
>>136334388
I'll probably just add the anime and BiS into it aswell, also maybe include a timeline somwhere if I can find the official timeline image.
>>136334450
This sounds like a job for the regular military police, the Kommandantendienst in case of the NVA. Although it's not impossible to imagine things got shuffled around thanks to the BETA invasion I guess, especially if >>136334242 is true and the Stasi has practically taken control of the state.
>>136334534
>>136318808
You know the character development is deep when their catchphrase is 'Tch'
>>136334613
Thank you very much.
Is this the vn's ost? Episode two started with an instrumental of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSRlmv5YnE
>>136328165
The wrist and fingers get to me
If given unlimited ammo and fuel, can Mobius 1 inside a Raptor destroy all the BETA on Earth by himself?
Just who thought fucking fripside of all musicians would be a good fit for Schwarzesmarken? They should've hired whoever recorded the 2nd Death Note opening instead, or even Linkin Park or whatever. If you're going to be edgy, at least go all the way and don't use half-assed j-pop. Goddamit.
>>136318808[hatefap intensifies]
>>136335248
No because the machine and weapons would give in long before even wiping out a single hive.
>>136335314
> avex
> Lise VA
> worked with age in the past (voiced Akira in the KimiIta remake)
Do the math.
>>136335248
>Backstabing shit
> Working againt BETA
Kek
>>136335706
>theo
>hatefapping to iris
>>136335848You do realize at this particular stage Theo still loathes Irisdina right?
>>136335891
He's just being tsundere for her
>>136335314
Avex is a major sponsor
>>136335030
Original poster here that asked the question. Thanks for doing this! Maybe include the Kickstarter information too like photonmemories/melodies being packaged, though since I still haven't gone through the VN yet I'm not really sure what they are about.
As an asideKGNE is suffering. On Ep9 already, and this is depressing.
It's been ages since I've played Alternative, does anyone remember why the beta never showed up in the Extra universe? If i remember wasn't it just chance
>>136335314
Money
>>136336610
I'm pretty sure Photonmemories/melodies are just a collection of the already released side stories for PS3. Also the chart probably won't be done today, sorry, I'm remaking the thing from scratch.
>>136336730
I suppose it's chance, first contact with the BETA in Alter-verse is when one of human probe landed on Mars, so maybe the BETA only didn't know there was Earth until they found the probe?
>Extra-verse discover abandon BETA hives on Mars
>>136336610
Just remember that the KimiNozo and Schwaken animus share the same director.
As an aside the scriptwriter for the SM anime previously did that of Cross Ange, maybe he can also make the final fights here simultaneous on the ground and in the air.
>>136334388
>Manga adaptations aren't mentioned even though I think they existed when the picture was made.
The reason is that no one wanted to talk about the Extra adaptation (shitty artstyle), the Unlimited only has Tonigobe for its TL, and as far as the Alt mango is concerned Chen Gong dropped out long ago and Tonigobe's at his usual aeonal pace.
>>136337283
Oh that's interesting. I'm looking forward to getting more into the franchise. Should finish KGNE today, start on Extra on my Windows XP VM.
Even went for the $150 kickstarter though I hadn't played it.
>>136336879
How are you remaking it?
>>136337787
I guess I'm trying to organize and update the list and make it look better(?), also adding an anime or manga section.
>>136338104
Shouldn't it say "4 other side routes" in the Extra section. Ayamine, Miki, Chizuru, and Marimo.
>>136338285
Marimo bad end have effect in Unlimited? I haven't played the VN in a long while.
>>136338333
No idea I'm still watching KGNE.
>>136338285
>Marimo route
>>136330019
The one himecut girl from the second episode.
>>136338864chomp
>>136339091
Someone help Kasumi.
No.
>>136330019
MASTERRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So are the otaku in the muv luv world part of the BETA?
>>136339826
no, BETA are fine gentlemen that know how treat a woman
>>136339915
I forgot why didn't the beta recognize humans as life forms again?
>>136309814
That is empirically wrong.
>>136340169
Well, you're half right
>>136340377
Say it again. I dare you!
>>136340084
Their internal logic had been set at only silicon life and all carbon being robots.
>>136340432
Well, you're half right
>>136340621
No.
I'm fully correct.
>second episode
>already full quality mode
Katia aside, who's the best Schwarze for bullying? I'm think either Homura or PTSD will make good enough bullying material
oooyyoyoo
So I just looked at the map,and shit doesn't make sense.
>arrive on Earth in 1973,in China
>Less than 10 years later,hives established in Europe and Finland
>BETA don't reach Japan until 1997
Is there a reasonable explanation for this or is this just another case of YAMATO DAMASHII?
>>136340773
Too bad even TSF action suck cocks. What the fuck really?
>>136335248
Yesbut only on September 19th
>>136341085
they just attacked the most technological zone of the continent.
>>136341160
Post webm TSF against beta. It looks pathetic
>>136341085
The Chinese didn't have as much advanced Tech as Europe, the USSR and Iran, so the BETA, who react to that shit, didn't care about them until they took Europe
>>136340543
>a twice so heavy and large chemical element is the natural base for life
Beta are dumb.
>>136341413
The Creators are Dumb, the BETA just obey.
>>136341554
>the creators
you mean Kouki?
>>136341085
Are you sure you're looking at the right map because ten years later they're still at the border of the DDR
>>136335806
Raptor is just as good at PvE as it is PvP.
>>136341413
Silicon based lifeforms like the BETA's creators assuming only other lifeforms would be Silicon based as well isn't exactly far fetched.
>>136341978
I the Aliens who made them.
>>136342259
The fact taht there is silicon based life is far fetched.
>>136342348
But that's what the Creators are. And to them, carbon based lifeforms are impossible to exist as living lifeforms.
>>136331589
Because everything in those images are obviously non original trace-reference-edits.
>>136344003
i rike it
Tch.
>>136344366
ARA
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