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>>134827643
なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！
Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Without labor nothing prospers.
>>134856385
>tfw three of them are me
Also, pic related.
I KNOW YOU'RE HERE QUOF YOU FUCKING KEK BOY
>>134856385
>Meaning of -なさい
also https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/22hbbj/where_should_i_check_sentences/cgmvngd
this is hilarious
>>134856536
>>134856562
>>134856526
Back to reddit you disgusting faggot.
Not all of the mentions of DJT on reddit are in that post. some mentioned it by the full name and there were mentions of it outside of /r/learnjapanese
Is there way a way for me to do something in anki to the starter deck to be both front and back? So that instead of just showing me something in Japanese and guessing in English, it also shows me English then I have to guess in Japanese?
>>134856703
>it also shows me English then I have to guess in Japanese?
Those are a waste of time, don't bother.
>redditfags think everyone here is homophobic for using "faggot"
>redditfags think everyone here is a RACIST BIGOT for using "nigger", "chink", "slant" and "gook"
>redditfags think DJT is the most toxic. repugnant and revolting community on the internet for telling retards to fuck off when they talk about learning kana for a week
>redditfags think that anons are underageb& for using BAD WORDS like f*** and sh*t
>redditfags think that they will learn japanese from WANIKANI
>>134856614
post a search so I can be lazy
>>134856602
There is one guy who constantly comes here to make fun of reddit while actively going to that place, I wish he'd fuck off.
You can not learn japanese.
There is no reason to learn japanese.
Anime will be dead in 2020.
>>134856799
;_____;
>>134856799
anime is already shit, hopefully no one here is learning japanese for that
>>134856799
I heard it would be dead by 2010
>>134856536
We need to smoke this guy out. Compare his writing style there with shit from the archives and create a criminal profile for him.
>>134856749
There's nothing wrong with wanikani. I did wanikani myself.
>>134856798
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
>>134856847
You don't need to do that. I'm right here.
![Love Live! The School Idol Movie (BD 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_01.18.19_[2015.12.15_23.33.16].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UGvOuiT.jpg "Love Live! The School Idol Movie (BD 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 snapshot 01.18.19 [2015.12.15 23.33.16]")
What does this say?
>>134856845
This time it's not just a meme, Japan is going to ban loli in time for the 2020 Olympics.
>>134856799
Sweden is already trying to pass a law that will for all intents and purposes be a ban on anime in their country and all because a high ranking member of the Left Party considered it to be misogynistic and demeaning towards women.
>>134856902
Aidoru right to left. Aidoru is idol in Japanese accent. The kanji are 愛弗 which don't do anything but provide the reading.
>>134856897
I'm going to kick you in the face, boy. Only faggots use boku.
>>134856947
loli is banned in pretty much all of Europe and no one gives a shit if you masturbate to it
>>134856962
One time I was reading a VN and I thought the MC was a shota because he kept saying ぼく, but then a CG came up and he was like 20 years old.
>>134856998
TL;DR
>>134856962
Lots of songs use boku
I think it might be an indie thing
No I'm not talking about that idol bullshit
>>134856958
holy shit
I was also getting confused by it, my only exposure to read japanese is comics, visual novels and text on the internet so I forgot they ACTUALLY write, or wrote right to left
Unbelievable, fucking disgusting barbarians
>>134856947
Whatever, Sweden will collapse soon enough anyway.
>>134857078
They actually write vertically, right-to left, not horizontally right-to left, it's just in this case there's a vertical depth of 1 character
>>134857078
I don't think japs write right to left
t. muh VNs
>>134857171
No they actually wrote right to left even in horizontal, you don't know shit
Just read their names
>>134857260
All I'm seeing there is a vertical depth of 1 m8.
>>134857260
b-but it's clearly vertical writing with 1 character of height
>>134857260
>kutofuhi
>niirisokumu
Are those supposed to be their names?
>>134857260
>Axis is 仲よし三國
仲よし三國無双 when
>>134856902
>furigana
lel japs don't know their own language
Are new kanji still created, ever? If not when did new kanji stop being created?
>>134857736
>make new kanji
>can't be typed
>not on Japanese government's OK kanji list
>everyone ignores it
rip progress
>>134857736
They realized how retarded kanji is, now they use katakana for everything
Soon they will be enlightened and fully switch to romaji
>>134857736
Only by snooty authors who think they're hot shit.
>>134857736
new kanji, i call it: le squiggly diggly man
>>134857883
How many meanings does it have?
>>134857736
China stopped making them after making the periodic table. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_elements_in_East_Asian_languages#Chinese
>>134857899
17 onyomi and 43 in furigana
![Aria_the_Natural_25_[ENG][FFDB2086].mkv_snapshot_17.10_[2015.02.09_23.59.00].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6wPjXVf.jpg "Aria the Natural 25 [ENG][FFDB2086].mkv snapshot 17.10 [2015.02.09 23.59.00]")
>>134857883
nice i like it
>>134857883
What about stroke order?
>>134858237
I think you got part of it wrong. I'm pretty sure I counted 31 strokes in total, but that diagram shows it in 20, possibly combining separate strokes.
>>134857910
I'm always a little bit amused when I encounter these in the wild. I'm also never quite sure if they're worth mining. I mostly just ignore them if I'm not familiar enough with the element in English.
>>134858114
You'd obviously follow the established norms.
You'd know this if you had done RTK.
>>134857883
丁寧の寧の字の書き損じのような
Rare kanji for you kanji masters
>>134858402
Looks more like hangul
>>134858402
Fuck off Korean pigdog.
>>134856998
That was mildly amusing. Sauce?
1000 hours with my brush and ink
>>134858566
留の書きかけのような
>>134858600
>detain fag
my sides
>>134858616
M8.
I thought I'd give this 'create your own kanji' thing a try.
>>134859017
I think mine is better.
Is this the birth of an epic new meme?
>>134859017
Jump kicking bird face man. A rare kanji used for a hidden martial arts form that hasn't been revealed until today.
>>134859105
nice 㔭 bro
>>134859216
"Squatting shitter" use for when last night's sushi was a little bit too raw.
nah if you turn it sideways it's a horse riding a woman.
>djt struggles with learning 3,000
>finally, in madness, they begin creating even more to learn
It's like witnessing the unholy birth of the Anti-Christ, but instead of an individual incarnation of evil, it's all of us; we are the Anti-Christ.
>>134859420
look at those shitty tiny fucking noob radicals, /r/learnjapanese tier
You probably didn't even do RTK, just leave and let the big boys play.
Get on my level scrubs.
>>134859456
go cluck yourself
>>134859422
What have you done
>>134859534
It's not even fake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biangbiang_noodles
Some of these make you wonder how the fuck they happened.
Okay so I can read and write all hiragana, like 4 katakana, (working on it still) and just got done with tae kims section on listing nouns
what can I do to help me with the anki? I did the first set of 20, how often should I do it? Everyday?
Any tips on remembering each set of 20?
or do I just write it down?
pls help
Okay, I'm done. This is my magnum opus.
>>134860104
20 new cards a day, yes. Every day.
Radicals help memorization. Writing helps too.
>>134860104
New cards every day, reps every day and increase the cap for reviews to 9999
>冗談
>上段
>>134860175
>DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF & FACE 二 BLOODSHED
>>134860104
Add a third step after the 10 minute thing. I'd suggest 30 mins-1hr.
>>134860331
FUCK OFF BITCH
YOU'RE DISCOURAGEMENT ONLY MAKES ME STRONGER
>>134860375
YOU STUPID BITCH
YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH
I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW DUMB YOU ARE
JESUS CHRIST I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW FUCKING DUMB YOU ARE
YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MOTHERFUCKING---
>>134860300
how
>>134860418
IF THIS FAT BLACK BASTARD CAN LEARN JAPANESE AND BECOME A JPOP STAR I CAN LEARN ENOUGH TO READ SHIT DAMMIT
It is an undeniable truth that if you interact with a language for a significant amount of time every day, you will inevitably learn it. So, never lose hope, only gain determination to expose yourself even more.
おはよう
おにいちゃん
おにいちゃんは
どうしておにいちゃん？
Is Japanese a language in demand by employers?
>>134860618
How many Japanese people have you met in your life compared to Chinese/Korean/Indians?
There's your answer.
>>134860618
Realistically, any other language looks good to employers, except for shit like latin or one of the million african click tribal shits.
Anyway, it's probably not unless you plan to get work in the western part of the US where they deal with japanese companies.
Really the only languages worth learning are asian ones, including russian and arabic. Any other european company is full of english speakers, anyone under 50 speaks fluent english, anyone above speaks some english.
asian language importance goes chinese > korean > japanese
or I would assume anyway
anyway here have a webm of my bird
To FlyableHeart anons out there who have read Mayuri's route, does it stop beingdepressingsoon? Or is most of the routesad and melodramatic? I'm at the part wherethey're about the start cleaning up after the festival and they had a conversation on the roof about the situation.
>>134860740
I've worked at a software company before. The Japanese people who you have to deal with once a week are perfectly fluent in English.
>>134860791Someone's going to die soon.
>>134860488
>It is an undeniable truth that if you interact with a language for a significant amount of time every day, you will inevitably learn it.
Unless you die first.
>>134860740
Even though I agree that Mandarin would be the most useful why is Korea more important than Japan? Japan is the 4th largest buying power.
I'm starting university soon and I'm weighing all of the Asian languages as best I can.
Japan is also a big player in the high tech market that I'm leaning towards.
>>134860923
I assumed korean was higher due to how involved the us military and nato are with south korea, and samsung is pretty big right now.
>>134860923
What company makes your phone? Japan lost the mobile market again US and Samsung and that's what people care about these days.
>>134860923
Japan is shit when it comes to doing anything outside of their own country, meanwhile China and Korea aren't that bad at entering foreign markets.
>>134856476
Could you please lend some input?
Pic related is an example of the DoJG with the Notes field image rendered as text. The red line is merely a horizontal reference line. I'd like to know a preferred width for desktop users. It is currently set at 700px. Reusing a slightly modifying one of the styles already used,
the CSS is as follows:
p.Style0 {
word-break:break-all;
max-width: 700px;
margin-top:2.0pt;
margin-right:0cm;
margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:0.0pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family: "meiryo";
padding: 10px;
}
The rear template is implemented by:
<div id="Style0">
<p class="Style0">{{textnotes}}
</div>
The text in the image obviously isn't the actual note image text. For the actual text I'm going to keep it as simple as possible, likely using <p>, and maybe a class for indents such as:
.indent { margin-left: 20[or whatever the user wants]px; }
Or something, I don't know. That's why I'm asking.
>>134860852Well, if that's true, thank you for not telling me who even if I have a feeling I know who it could be.I hope the whole route isn't like this though. It's good, but I just wanted something cute, fluffy, and healing. Which route should I pick next?
>>134861228
what the fuck is that pukefest css
>>134861318
It dictates how the field appears. Do you have any suggestions to make it appear that way?
>>134861416
No, I mean the actual style as it visually looks is really bad
>>134860488
Fuck your advice. I exposed myself to Japanese just one day and I got deported.
>>134861438
>as it visually looks is really bad
Looks fine to me. What is wrong with it?
>>134861438
Agreed. I wish it'd just go back to how it was before the typo checking anon changed it. I dislike the round bloated boxes with lots of padding taking up space and having to click to show translations instead of mouseover like it was before is annoying.
>>134861500
1) Heavy outlines, yet arbitrary color changes with no outline
2) No "metaphor" for how different box elements are placed together
3) Mixing round and sharp borders
4) Doubled-up borders
5) Bad text contrast
6) No consistency in the coloration of thin lines
7) Both lists and tables
>>134861519
>I dislike the round bloated boxes with lots of padding taking up space
That can be tweaked by changing the variables in the styling.
>mouseover
That had to be removed as it caused issues which prevented example sentence fields being hidden. With it in place it would mean there was a large gap on cards with only a few example sentences. If anyone has the old styling and knows how to implement hover over while hiding fields on cards without data/text, it would be useful.
>>134861557
All of those are aesthetic differences. Would you like to offer some replacement styling for testing purposes?
so what is wanikani and why should I use it alongside anki?
>>134861622
>All of those are aesthetic differences.
I did say visually.
>>134861662
If you're going to use wanikani, at least use a ripped Anki deck of it instead of paying to go slower.
>>134861668
Of which I see no issue with but as I asked, if you have something to offer I can replace the current layout and styling as a test run and post the results.
>>134861704
Direct me to the deck and I'll change it.
>>134861689
so its slower?
why is it praised by some then?
all I know is that some youtube fuckboy made it
>>134861728
>Contains literally wrong information
>Artificially limits your progress
>Locked in to it, can't export your scheduling information
>Tells you whether you got something right, have to go outside the normal system to make "dad" a synonym for "father"
>Objectively inferior scheduling system to Anki's
>Only customization is browser mods like scriptish
>Eventually ends and you're fucked if you want more content
>Artificially limits your speed, even if you go /as fast as possible/ you can only go as fast as a /normal/ anki user
>Costs money
>>134861718
https://mega.nz/#F!HlFTiCxI!I3_D5C9_NyysiMHOfr0pkw
DoJGAnkiDeck
日本語文法辞典例文全集(cloze)
>>134860740
>including russian
>>134861760
>The formation field is a hardcoded table
*pukes*
>>134861886
It was copypasted from the DoJG master word doc. Much easier to do that than achieve the same thing in html or CSS with hundreds of separate tables. Are you at all familiar with the project at hand?
>>134861940
I'm going to write a perl script to dissect the formation markup into separated fields.
But first, fixing this clusterfuck.
>>134861768
how else are you supposed to talk to your mail order bride?
>>134861978
If you can maintain the same tablet in a single field as a result, please go ahead.
>>134856476
>Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1337
>#1337
>>134860892
I don't think that scenario is worth thinking about. I could die of a heart attack, brain aneurysm, infection, blunt force trauma, etc, any second, but that doesn't mean every line of thought should end with "unless you die".
>Hey man, read this book, it'll only take you a week unless you die
>C'mon, Algebra isn't hard, just study these equations, you'll learn them as long as you don't die
etc
document.getElementById("generatecode").innerHTML += 'document.getElementById("examples").innerHTML += "{{example "' + i + '}}";';
Someone who actually knows JS. Please save me.
>>134862477
>this cake is going to be good unless you die
anyone played this?
>>134862704
>Someone who actually knows JS. Please save me.
In what manner would a pedo save you?
Why
>>134862704
document.getElementById("generatecode").innerHTML += document.getElementById("examples").innerHTML + "not sure what's going on here" + i + "here too";
>>134862909
Each English and Japanese example sentence have their own field. This allows for maximum customization for the user. Were you referring to something else?
Not really familiar with the process you are doing.
>>134863116
The problem is anki isn't even mapping out fields that aren't plaintext in the original template
It's still processing them, somehow, it's just fucking up
>>134863138
Ah okay. Wish I could be of some assistance but really have no idea. I just handled the raw data mostly. It would have been really helpful if a few knowledgeable people like yourself were around during the year or so when the deck was being pieced together on DJT. Might have made it a lot easier.
>>134863195
I was there but it was already a clusterfuck.
It's much easier to fix things that are broken than it is to participate a clusterfuck of a project.
so im reading tae kims grammar, and eventually he goes full nip with some of the example sentences
am I expected to have memorized all these kanji already? Or am I here to explicitly learn how grammar works?
>>134863294
>am I expected to have memorized all these kanji already
nope
>Or am I here to explicitly learn how grammar works?
yes
>>134863310
thanks senpai
have a 3d
>>134863208
The most important part of the project is getting the scanned data into usable text. For the most part it is already there.
>>134861273
I think you should save Yui for last, since it is the other really good one. I'd suggest Amane next, but feel free to ignore that and do whoever you want.
I'd also avoid asking questions like you just did, you should never ask about what is going to happen because you will just get spoiled and that ruins everything. You can never get unspoiled.
>>134863294
You should be able to hover over the words to find out what they mean in the grammar guide anyway, at least up until the advanced section. Though you should get rikaisama anyway and start hovering over everything; and also change your font, it is ugly
It's better to leave kanji until after you know grammar imo. But if you keep an eye on some of the kanji in that guide it will help you later too.
>>134863294
These are all easy :
今日 : kyou - today
昨日 : kinou - yesterday
雨 : ame - rain (note that in toukyou ben I believe the pitch goes on the first mora "a" to distinguish it from ame - candy)
大学生 : daigakusei - uni student
私 : watashi, watakushi - me, I
水 : mizu - water
仕事 : shigoto - work/job
明日 : ashita - tomorrow
入口 : iriguchi - entrance
出口 : deguchi - exit
>>134863480
how do I change my font? Like whole font in general or just for japanese?
>>134863686
nevermind, did it with an extension
hue
What is it about the M's that are giving me such shit?
Maybe it's because I spent at least 2 hours "reviewing" all the previous ones right beforehand before trying a new one today?
>>134863807
It's because you haven't spent long enough.
>>134863598
>明日 : ashita - tomorrow
>not myounichi
Uncultured swine.
>>134863807
Probably because you're doing dumb shit like that instead of just writing it down 50 fucking times.
>>134863860
>myounichi
It makes me want to throw up, seeing this in romaji.
>>134863807
The "m" and "n" groups are niggers because they have lots of swirlies that look similar to each other.
>>134860421
Ｓｕｍｉｍａｓｅｎ ｗａｋａｒｉｍａｓｎｅ．Ｓｕｍｉｍａｓ，ｄｓｆ ｂｊｋｂａｓｄｆｈｋｊｆｈｇｄａｋｊ ＣＯＭＥ ＯＮ WINDOWS FUCKING WHY DO YOU AUTOMATICALLY SWITCH TO ROMANJI
>>134864014
Press the F buttons. Like F6
>>134864054
Ａ理が島おｒ府©金ｇティｓ府©金ｇティンｇ五ｄだｍンいｔ
>>134864071
君のタイピングは駄目だ
>>134863195
>(ksb). 私はスペイン語も話す・話します。
What does the "ksb" mean?
>>134864105
全然駄目だね
>>134864139
Kiss my Smelly Butt
>>134863794
if you're using firefox (like you should be, for rikaisama) just go to options>content>fonts & colors>advanced
>>134864268
That is really useless info to have on the card. Putting that in the field was a mistake.
>>134864268
Got it
>>134864337
.green
{ display: none; }
>>134864337
>That is really useless info to have on the card.
Not it isn't. It was specifically requested because the concept image notes specifically refer to those values.
Please don't comment on something you aren't familiar with.
Does anyone have the most recent version of Translation Aggregator? I can't find a working download and I can't download it from hongfire either.
>>134864367
It would've been ideal if it were a separate field (though I know there are a shitload already) so that I could put it as mouseover text without using JS.
>>134864377
use chiitrans lite instead
>>134864396
Actually while I say this what I want more is the usage to be split into short and long form. What the fuck.
>A particle which indicates that a proposition about the preceeding element X is also true when another similar proposition is true.
>Too; also; (not) ~ either
This is all in one field. The only element that divides them is <br/>, which is useless.
>>134864367
See pic related.
>>134864396
>It would've been ideal if it were a separate field
It is pretty easy to break them into separate fields by exporting to text. The issue is making them match up with the correct example sentence, as each card follows it's own ordering which cannot be applied globally.
>>134864429
>which is useless.
That is how it appears in the books themselves and this is how anons have requested.
>>134864484
Image misquoted: >>134864337
>>134864484
>It is pretty easy to break them into separate fields by exporting to text. The issue is making them match up with the correct example sentence, as each card follows it's own ordering which cannot be applied globally.
It's not a big deal.
>That is how it appears in the books themselves and this is how anons have requested.
Except in the book they are actually separate fields and putting them in separate fields in the deck can obviously do the same layout things as baking them into a single field, which is totally inflexible.
>>134864550
>>134864484
Just realized you misunderstood me, so apologies for any vitriol.
>>134864429
>chiitrans
Any that offer romaji support as well?
>>134864577
It offers ruby text IIRC, however relying on machine-generated phonetics for japanese is silly because parsers always make mistakes once in a while.
If you don't know kana you shouldn't be reading
>>134864574
>apologies
YOU WORTHLESS LITTLE SHIT
>>134858810
Holy shit
>>134864614
Finally someone noticed
>>134864550
The current format was determined by feedback from anons. The entire layout, down to the padded bubbles, etc. are all as a result of response from the thread when it was being put together.
It seems odd that this feedback is coming up now after it has been in that state for some months now.
A little confused as you(?) stated here >>134863208 that you have been here during that phase.
>>134859718
This is some SMT-tier shit. What are its stats?
>>134864633
I gave my input but it wasn't listened to.
>It seems odd that this feedback is coming up now after it has been in that state for some months now.
I've been doing other things so I haven't bothered to bother whoever was maintaining it.
>>134863807Nice bait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqImjXaUEUk
>>134859718
Two forks turned kebabs, one flower pot and a cumming dick, ey?
>>134864597
I can sift out the errors myself, phonetics just add to the experience and help me visualize cute girls saying the lines.
>>134864678Not knowing what "bait" means and/or trying too hard to fit in to an anonymous image board.
Your study background song sucks.
This is superior.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60mLvBWOMb4
>>134864670
Sure thing anon.
I'll be slowly converting the note images to text and updating the pdf/deck in the meanwhile.
In a year or so time when all of the work has been done feel free to comment further on the clusterfuck project.
This is what I *could* do with the cloze card, /if/ the long and short concepts were separate fields.
>>134864633
>down to the padded bubbles
I recall that multiple people didn't like that format. He offered two different formats as a result, but for some reason he took the more minimal / compact / nice looking one down.
>>134864787
Just to clarify thing.
You realize that I was semi-joking/helping him to memorize も right?
>>134863807
It's more hook.
>>134865160
mo' hook
>>134864693
It's clearly an upside down lady holding two giant forks, while wearing a funny hat.
I can't fucking remember 故障.
It just looks like nothing.
>>134865268
The first character is an elementary kanji. Step it up.
>>134865268
Once you get enough vocab under your belt you can understand it just by considering the individual kanji to guess the reading without remembering the word as a whole.
That is if you can remember the meaning using the reading of course
色モノ糸
What does this mean?
>>134865487
Seems like it means a string/strings of coloured fabric.
>>134865562
The context is
"おまえゆかり先生と黒沢先生どっち派？"
"ゆかり先生だよ" (yukaris standing behind the dude)
"うははは！何？！おまえ色モノ糸？！"
>>134860791
All routes in all vns go happy -> depressing -> happy.
Specifically Mayuri's:the happy parts are amazing and bliss, but not nearly long enough. I just wanted more time to live happily with her and to climax together in the comfort of her bed. Why did the route have to end so soon?
This is what I came up with after stripping everything out of the DoJG deck and rewriting the format. Use this as a basis for whatever card type you want to make, maintainer. (Seriously though, PLEASE rename your exposure card type to "Exposure". That's what it is. It's not a recognition card.)
>Front
<div style="color: #888">{{Tags}} - {{volume and page}}</div>
<div style="height: 3em"></div>
<div class=cloze2>{{close}}</div>
<br>
<div class=explanation>{{usage}}</div>
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>>134865673
>Back
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In the off chance this person from the other thread sees this I'll post it here
>>134851427
http://pastebin.com/sXJFkWS2
Save this on your harddrive somewhere, open it in your browser and bookmark it.
You can then paste or type any text you want to use with rikai. Of course feel free to edit the layout however you wish, I'm not the one who made it.
>>134865694
>>134865673
Funny that I was just coming here to drop a pastebin link when seeing these. You should really use a pastebin website for things like this.
>reading scenarioge
>>134866137
>tfw still completely trip up on certain sentences grammar-wise in Flyable Heart
Maybe I should start the intermediate volume. most of my basic cards are mature now.
Reminder: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1XjynUmVDcPgsycvsZ8uasCyD6l6VHtMZReA7b3S3iFc/viewanalytics
Why does all the Katakana look the same, this is fucking bullshit.
>>134866277
Are you that same guy complaining about ま/も?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNxPRBvRQg
Just gonna leave this here.
>>134866296
Nah, Hiragana is easy enough, it's just hard when there's like 8 characters that look identical to each other.
>>134866342
This is why everyone should do RTK.
>>134866510
>Implying doing RTK makes you magically able to write kanji forever
If you don't write kanji regularly you lose the ability to do so in a flash
>>134866534
If only there were some sort of program that were designed to show you things in spaced intervals just as you're about to forget them. Besides, he was clearly just funposting.
>>134866561
>Implying doing anki has any relation to the ability to write kanji
Reading kanji and writing kanji are two completely different thing
>>134866616
You can use anki for writing exposure bro
>>134866534
形式:format
形式的:formal
公式:formal
公式的:formal
Is the use of formal in 形式的 different from the use of formal in 公式?
The author of 娚の一生 is just being a faggot right?
>>134866703
>Is the use of formal in 形式的 different from the use of formal in 公式?
Yes. The clues are in the kani, 形式 means formal as in following a certain form/format/method, 公式 means formal as in suitable for official publication, formality as recognized by the public.
的 is a suffix that changes the usage/meaning somewhat, simply said it makes the noun into an adjective (na)
>>134866798
Thank you, sorry for the retardation.
>>134866342
>戦糖
>略尺
>本訳
This is kind of fun to read.
http://language.tiu.ac.jp/materials/eng/yomi/index.html
>>134866703
様式ということばもあるよ。おにいちゃん
>>134866177
Are you the rainy koto guy?
>>134867629
No idea who that is. Mind informing me?
>>134867629
>>134867863
Oh wait, nevermind, you mean the guy a thread or two ago who got confused by one of the first lines in FH, right? I'm not that guy, no. I'm just past the common route. I'm still able to follow along just fine, but every once in a while there's a line that has me completely stumped and sometimes it's a really important line, so I figure I should start the intermediate DoJG deck either now or after I finish my first route.
Fureraba
Do you bother learning the kanji of a word when it's explicitly described as "Usually written in kana?"
Mary-san?
>>134869011
Yes. If not, expect to be fucked in the ass when you see 胡坐 in monogatari.
>>134869011
Yes. Even 其 and 此 shit are good to know.
Does VNDB have a backlog system? I might make an account if so.
>>134869512
It has a wishlist, which is essentially the same as a backlog. You can rate them by priority too (low, medium and high).
>>134869035
床に座る、にほんごたち。椅子に座るときは「椅子に座る」。掘りごたつには座るでなくて「入る」。
正座
体育座り・三角座り
建膝・立膝
安座・胡坐・あぐら
楽座
長座
女座り・女の子座り・あひる座り
あと、便所座り
>で
At the beginning this seemed like the easiest particle
>>134870206
It's the third easiest, the first and second wo and he
>>134869959
Holy crap, japanese has words for all the dumb ways I sit around.
The Dark Souls bonfire sitting position would be 三角座り I guess.
>>134870329
It has a lot of wierd uses, though. Like meaning について at times.
>>134870842
>meaning について at times
Exemplify.
>>134870331
あと、特殊な座り方に
>けいせいすわり
>傾城座り
ってのがあるよ。昔の花魁の座り方なんですって。気を付けて？ね。
>>134871174
I want to fuck that oiran
Why do I feel like no matter how much I read my understanding of grammar is still really foggy, it's really annoying, i've been reading for years and I still see shit that should be easy but gives me problems
>>134871374
[Speculation] Production will fix that.
>>134871421
Agh production is so shitty though
I used lang-8 like three times but it's impossible to think of shit to write about
>>134871374
Can you give an example?
>>134871374
Practice listening. I have a completely baseless strong belief, founded on nothing but my personal experience, that learning how to process spoken language plays a vital role in understanding even while reading.
>>134871516
What caused me to come on here and bitch was because I just read
"４月になったばかりの春先とは言え、
今日は良い天気過ぎて少々暑いくらいだ。"
in nekopara and raged at myself because I had no idea how ばかりの was working there
>>134871203
You aren't rich enough.
>>134871678
>has been reading for years
>has issues with nekopara
>has issues with that usage ばかり
I sympathize with you, but your issue is probably that you've just not been consuming enough material
>>134871791
I feel like i've read a good amount of shit though, it's just discouraging that grammar continues to give me problems, feel like I must be doing something wrong
>>134856476
How about the mods do for these threads what /pol/ does for presidential debate threads and turn them into a rolling sticky or something?
>>134872023
presidential debates end
>>134872053
Everyone will have either quit or learned Japanese one day too.
>>134872023
It needs to be moved to /jp/ or /int/. It should be a bannable offense to post it on /a/.
>>134873325
You need to leave.
>>134866534
Just like you forgot how to write the alphabet, huh? Fuck off anti-rtk nigger.
Is it Ka-ta-na or Kat-ana?
>>134873524
Does a lone t make sense to you?
>>134873524
K-ata-n-a
The K is silent.
>There wasn't a Japanese word for vagina until they had contact with Anglos.
What?
>>134873772
vaginas are gross dude.
>>134873772
Source? I don't doubt you but I wanna read up.
>>134873923
Vaginas are still called ヴァゴオs in modern Japanese.
>>134873995
wat
新年をお迎えする準備で忙しい、煤払いの時節ですね。がんばって、おにいちゃん
>more than 72 hours since I've applied to Jcat passed
>still no response
At least tell me what I did wrong you cunts
>>134873772
>until they had contact with Anglos
You mean with Chinese:
膣
>>134873325
If DJT ever moves anywhere it'll be to /lang/ if they bring it back with images, and even then it might just split into 2 threads with the /a/ one being for people who primarily browse /a/ and the one on /lang/ being for crossboarders. Though I imagine if /lang/ allowed images, the mods would probably prefer if we just moved there altogether rather than let us grandfather our way into staying.
>>134860740
>any other language looks good to employers, except for shit like latin
Lies!
t. employer
>>134873390
>Being this retarded
さすが pro-rtk nigger
>>134874263
ganbatay
>>134874185
God damn if that ever happens /djt/ will literally turn into /r/learnjapanese. I might even jump ship to you-know-where's "/djt/".
>>134862008
My mail order bride is going to come from Japan
>>134874363
They have a /djt/? That's weird.
>>134874138
They only want people who've at least gone to college.
>>134874390
It goes by a slightly different name but yes, they do.
>>134874138
I can't believe they accepted the bullshit I typed in.
>>134874392
Oh damn, I guess that's it since I'm a high school dropout. That's some class discrimination right there.
>>134874454
Alright, gonna retry as a DJT student, thanks mate.
I didn't do any new cards yesterday.
>>134874561
you stupid fucking child.
>>134874029
>新年
>煤払いの時節
いや、それは日本だけだと思うよ
>>134874561
Well, you're fucked.
Anyone know how to get different fonts to work on the ipad version of Anki?
I've tried following the website guide and added the font files to the media folder to no avail.
>>134874817
You should've bought a platform that respects your freedoms.
How do I use the dojg deck? Why are there 2 versions of every card also? Clozed and regular.
>>134875788
Delete cloze cards and do whatever the fuck with regulars. I just read the sentence on the front and if I get the line correctly I press good.
>redditor says Wanikani is good over Anki because it prevents you from overloading yourself, by forcing you to go slow it ensures you thoroughly learn material
>>134856536
KEK
>>134857067
私 is too many syllables for a song and only punk and metal songs use 俺.
>>134871678
>４月になったばかりの春先とは言え、今日は良い天気過ぎて少々暑いくらいだ。
>It's the beginning of spring where it just turned to April but, today is too much a good day to the point of being (just) a bit warm.
Is this okay?
>>134861047
I dunno, i don't think sony is doing that bad, my sony phone is just as good as an iphone for like a quarter of the price. Its still intact too, even though the amount of abuse ive put it through would have me jailed were it a child.
>>134877041
Problem solved - わし
>>134878087
I'm not sure I want my cute girls singing like they're 80, I'm fine with 僕
>>134877190
I take it that it is an acceptable interpretation then.
よかった
>>134874418
Can I avatarfag there?
>>134874363
You can say 8ch now.
>>134878435
I know. I just chose not to say it.
>>134878385
Feel free to.
Japanese is really really hard. Plus I have real life stuff and other hobbies like lifting and the occult.
>>134878385
but why, you'll just be bullied for not knowing jap
>>134878570
Cool.
Word of the day: 破天荒
>>134874505
>Oh damn, I guess that's it since I'm a high school dropout
These people really exist?
>>134879046
>be me
>graduate high school near top of the class
>decide to skip graduation ceremony because its boring and I dont give a fuck
>they'll mail me diploma
>years pass
>still havent gotten it
>>134879046
Yeah, had to drop out and go work for financial reasons. I'll go back and finish school someday when I'm better off, though.
>>134879217
Why? You couldn't pay for the books?
>>134879246
Couldn't pay for my own food.
No functional welfare in this country.
>>134879295
TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
>>134879531
You can be sure as hell that the country he is from isn't the US.
>日本では車は道の左側を走ります
Fuck, I though they were civilized?
>>134879125
You'd better contact them before they delete your records.
>>134880141
I don't care, I've given up on living a successful life. I will die soon and that'll be that.
>>134880155
You'll regret that in a few years when you realise that you aren't actually going to die any time soon.
>>134880141
Where I live they can't give diplomas back if the original is lost, despite keeping all records.
>>134880106
Fuck,Why you talking ENGLISH?
>>134880301
Why aren't you?
Is there any way to practice production without having to talk to anyone?
>>134865487
色モノ ’系’ not 糸
kabuki titles separated by color and ...(The rest is omitted)
meaning "strange taste"
Help anons, I'm really confused. When do I use 予習?
>>134880537
When you want to prepare for a lesson...
Could anyone explain to me what's the goddamn difference between 土 and 士?
>>134880729
Here we talk American.
>>134880729
What are you trying to say here? That if you're using the international language to speak "intertionally" then we have to adopt the retarded ass customs of a country?
>>134880889
Size of the horizontal stroke is larger on the bottom for earch and on top for samurai.
I updated rikaisama and now it says when I press R it says too few fields, line not added
What should I do?
>>134881079
Add more fields
>>134881109
I solved it myself, thanks for nothing faggot
>>134880927
then yard-pound units?
>>134881603
Whatever, I'm going to turn your sister into my bitch.
>>134881603
You forgot to add PM me for solution ;)
>>134881079
>私みたいな若僧が大佐の地位にいることが気に食わないのさ
"It's hard to swallow that a youngster like me has the rank of colonel"
Is this correct?
>>134882162
Yes, congratulations
>>134881079
fuck, didn't mean to link >>134882162
Sorry.
>>134882162
Even knowing the translation, I can't figure out that sentence
I just don't get this fucking language at all.
>add someone from DJT in another site
>thinking I was just going to embarrass myself with my bad jap skills
>he's so shit and dumb it actually gives me motivation
>>134882690
Wow, man.
>>134882690
That's the main reason I come here, seeing people who are even worse than me at this language gives me motivation to keep studying.
>>134882690
unironically rude, man.
>tfw you talkin and thinkin you could be in japan one day and you lvoe the anime and gohan
damn nigga we gonna make it
>>134882910
this will be you in 2 years
It's rep time.
>>134883156
reps are fun!
think of it like you're suffering from amnesia and you're actually a japanese person from birth who had his face reconstructed after a disfiguring accident. When you're doing reps you're actually bringing yourself closer to your heritage and the locked away memories that the kanji hide within themselves.
Can you smell the sakura trees from your childhood? Hear the cicadas on your way home from school?
Hey man that Japanese the Manga Way is on sale for the holidays, perfect gift for yourself or for someone else trying to learn the language.
>>134882617
私 - みたいな - 若僧 - が
Me - like - youngster - as for
As for a youngster like me
大佐の - 地位に - いる - こと - が
Colonel - position - exist - matter - as for
As for the matter of existing with the position of colonel
気に食わないのさ
Unable to stomach
>>134883254
kill yourself
>tfw you were fluent at 6 but lost it
>>134883345
based
>>134883345
How long does it take before you can understand a sentence like this without performing surgery on it?
>>134883727
Just use rikaisama, hover on everything japanese you see and you can pretend to actually know the language
what the fuck is an iced coffee
>>134883860
Are you serious you stupid little fuck? ESL leave.
>>134883282
Nah, I prefer free shit.
>>134856476
>1337
Fuck off
>>134883985
You'll go to hell
>>134884064
heh.....wouldnt have it any other way
>>134883860
ESLs out.
>>134884240
I know what replies I'm gunna get for asking this but, what does ESL mean?
>>134883968
>>134884240
What does this have to do with being ESL?
>>134884214
Ah man those are my shorts.
>>134884289
English as Second Language, ie not an anglo beast
>>134884289
EUROPEAN SUCKER LOSER
don't associate with those fucks.
>>134884302
Everyone fucking knows that iced coffee is.
>>134884337
Rude, never heard of it.
>>134884337
>that
lol stupid fucking esl leave
>>134884358
Hey, you can't hang a man for a typo.
>>134874185
It really does belong on /jp/. It's only tangentally related to anime at best.
>>134884431
Nah, /jp/ is about dumb otaku shit, not Japanese.
>>134884431
I think the jap admin would listen to me if I tell him DJT threads aren't anime or manga and that they should fuck off to a better board
brb
>>134884512
It's about Japanese and otaku culture. Language is part of a culture. Therefore, it stands to reason that this thread belongs in /jp/.
Also, some would say anime is most of what "dumb otaku shit" is, so that statement isn't really meaningful.
>>134884527
Petition him to make djt a bannable offense.
Why are people coming out of the woodwork now wanting to remove DJT from /a/? Why now, after so long? Where were they three years ago? For what purpose?
>>134884608
That place is dedicated to fucking autism.
>>>jp/14419252
Any Japanese learning thread hosted there would be utter crap.
>>134884676
"Guests and fish both smell."
-Albert Einstine
>>134884676
There has ALWAYS been discussion about moving this thread to another board.
>>134884714
nice link ESL
>>134884805
>>>/jp/14419252
There you go, you bum.
How do you cope with constantly hitting "again" in anki? My correct rate is usually 40-50%.
>>134884842
Please don't bully the Aizu-Wakamatsu thread.
>>134880503
Anyone?
>>134884842
Are they watching the snow fall?
>>134884921
Talk to yourself.
>>134884903
Spend 90% of your awake time reading so you don't need to use it
>>134884842
These guys are the definition of (ironically) Paris syndrome
>>134884903
For new cards or for review?
>>134884936
Fuck knows what those spergs are doing, but they've been at it for ages.
>>134884959
I can practically taste the irradiated snow already!
>1337
How is this a leet thread?
>>134884903
I hit it again.
t. 50% retention rate
>>134884957
But I'll just reinforce incorrect Japanese to myself
>>134885002
Review.
>>134885037
Pay for Pimsleur then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGmO62g1IDo
Does anybody know if the 2000 first word of the Core 6k are the same than the Core 2k? I think I'll start reading/mining after finishing 2k but I wasn't sure if it was the same. I'm at 1k word in the Core 6k.
>>134885029
I wouldn't mind having a board dedicated to languages.
>>134885190
That's what I would like as well.
>>134885046
Rough, bro. Keep at it, 40% retention is a million times better than 0% from not doing anything. Also, I don't know how many new cards/day you're doing but maybe ease up on that.
>>134885190
Yeah 4chan totally needs more deserted boards.
This fuckin' fearless Jap leader is an idiot.
>>134885233
Why?
>>134885264
a language learning board isn't going to be deserted, go fuck off
>>134885294
It'll turn overnight into learning jap board+/int/ posting and a smidge of /pol/ on the side talking about all the reasons german is the GOAT language.
>>134885362
This, to be honest.
>>134885362
>German
Don't they speak Arabic now?
>>134885362
The average reddit /int/ shitposter doesn't care about actually learning other languages.
>>134885389
4chan's obsession with islam has completely ruined political banter.
>>134885292
So we can discuss languages with our fellow anontachis.
>>134885389
t. niggamerica
>>134885422
That's why they'd be shitposting all day long.
>>134885362
>german is the GOAT language
>die implikation dass die deutsche Sprach dies nicht sei
>>134885422
exactly.
>>134885474
>>134885512
Then they wouldn't be able to post much in a board to learn languages.
>>134884903
Anki for Retards:
- Complete RTK 1 before starting Core
- Make up a mnemonic for the reading of each word using similar principles to RTK (e.g., think of the こ sound as a child). This is called the keyword method.
- Push "Hard" whenever the card isn't extremely easy
- Add an extra step
- Custom review all new cards again before bed
I have an abysmal memory, but 96% correct on young cards with this method.
>>134885577
>implying it'd have any more moderation than djt does
>>134885648
DJT still manages to discuss things every now and then, discussion will be better in a board about languages and not shitty porn and cartoons.
>>134885681
How would it change at all.
>>134885703
We'd talk about murakami more often?
>>134885728
How are you so sure?
>>134885703
You're right, now that the shitty userbase is in the thread it won't leave.
But at least we will get good threads about different languages, with people learning them for different reasons other than masturbating to porn.
>>134885769
There is no need for any other language that is not English or Japanese.
>>134885800
see this is why we need a language board, there won't be niggers like you
>>134885830
There's no need to make a board just because you don't have your circlejerk here.
>>134885830
Just go to >>>/int/ faggot
>>134885860
This thread is the most circlejerky thread on /a/ and most of 4chan, so much that there are thread identities even without using the fucking tripcode.
>>134884903
I don't use anki.
>>134885896
Such as?
>>134885896
You're forgetting the monsterfags.
>>134885954
finnish faggot
steve spammer
>>134885896
>the most circlejerky thread on /a/
Maybe, I'd still rate us over things like overlord and monmusu
>and most of 4chan
No seriously, we're a fucking national archive compared to some of the shit you find on the good boards.
>>134885967
>that idiot who miswrote ganbatte
That one love live whore
>>134885954
frenchie
>>134885896
Are you saying there are other languages worth learning?
>>134885954
>>134885987
>>134886016
The guy who maintains the guide.
>>134886031
I'm learning German just to read Mein Kampf.
>>134886050
Hardly a good reason.
>>134886050
djt is too pleb to enjoy good books like that, since it's on /a/ people only care about porn and shitty cartoons.
>>134885987
two people isn't bad in the overall scheme of things. Other generals on /a/ alone are worse off.
>>134886029
Which one was that?
>>134886032
That hard hardly ever posts but what is negative about that guy? Would you rather no one maintain the guide?
>>134886050
Don't, Hitler was a fucking bad author, he can't write for shit. Read a translated version if anything.
>>134886107
Nice try Shlomo.
Don't want the goyim to find out the truth?
>>134886091
>Which one was that?
A French attention whore who posts Vocaroo from time to time
>>134886107
Fug off JIDF. heil hidler :DDDDDD
>>134886140
No, a friend of mine read it in for HS exams in Switerland when he had to pick 3 books in German and he let me read a bit. I'm talking about how it's written, not what is inside.
>>134886140
Martin Luther wrote worse stuff about the Jews. A lot of Adolf Hitler's inspiration comes from Luther's work. Anon could read up on his stuff in German instead.
>>134886175
Oh, right. Yeah, that's unfortunate. I wouldn't mind seeing that imouto clown post a clip of him talking at least once.
>>134886250
>HS exams in Switerland
You can pick that for your Maturalektüre?
What Kanton was this in?
>>134886254
Oh yeah right, I almost forgot about the imouto poster
>>134886300
He was granted a special permission because he said he wanted to analyze it. The teachers accepted.
>>134886301
Still, the other generals on /a/ are a lot worse.
Not that generals belong on /a/ at all. I still think djt would be better off in /jp/, even moreso with the recent obsession with discussing VNs. It won't happen, obviously.
>>134886372
Heh, I feel sorry for that German teacher of his.
>>134886300
It was in Biel, Bern. Sorry I didn't see the question.
>>134886383
>discussing VNs
Huh?
>>134886383
>recent obsession
Unfortunately, not recent at all.
>>134886423
Was he attending a french or a german speaking school? You have pick 4 books in German if your main language is German, should I recall correctly.
>>134886486
It has increased a lot in the past six months.
>>134886383
Yeah but honestly, I don't really want the usual /jp/ shitposters in the DJT. You're right about the VNs though. And /jp/ would still be infinitely better than /not/.
>>134886413
Yeah, the teacher wasn't too keen on reading Mein Kampf since her family came from Germany.
Is boku used by grown men, or is it only used by school aged boys/teens?
>>134886532
/jp/ is a lot better than the retards which have claimed /a/ since 2008.
>>134886486
It was a French speaking school, he had to choose 3 books (He took Durenmatt and Schlink if I recall correctly).
Will the review cards per day increase by any significant amount as I progress with Anki?
I feel like the time I spend on it a day right now, up to 15 minutes, with the default settings is way too little, especially compared to my grammar and other study.
Should I increase my new cards and/or review cards?
>>134886592
>Dürrenmatt and Hitler
Now I feel really sorry for his German teacher.
>>134886571
I'm not saying /jp/ is shit as a whole, I just don't want more shitposters than we already have. It the DJT was taken to /jp/ the /a/ shitposters would follow anyway.
>>134886569
That depends from the feeling the speaker is trying to give. I've heard certain females say 僕 too.
>>134863860
>Not あす
>>134886794
>and all of them were anime characters and not real people
>>134886664
>It the DJT was taken to /jp/ the /a/ shitposters would follow anyway.
They wouldn't have the audience to feed off.
>>134886882
So the singer of Stereopony is an anime character now ?
>>134886571
Hah, no. /jp/ is full of the worst kind of filth.
>>134886571
No, not really.
>>134886725
Man, Cirno is actually pretty cute.
>>134886901
I'm not really sure. A lot of people coming from /a/ would follow anyway.
>>134886919
僕 is common in songs regardless of the singers gender, don't read too much into that.
>>134886901
Well, /jp/ is pretty dead and inbred, to be fair. At least djt would blow some spirit into it.
>>134886919
Never heard of it but the songs probably from a males perspective.
>>134887045
Still, while it may have been really uncommon 20 years ago, 僕 is actually used from times to times by young girls nowadays.
Do people even use the kanji version?
>>134887179
Yes.
>>134887179
Yes
>>134887179
occasionally.
how would you even forget it?
>>134887179
I've seen it mutiple times yes.
>>134887179
Yes especially in 真っ直ぐ
>>134885632
>Complete RTK 1 before starting Core
No. The rest of your advice is good but I'm not sure why you went full retard there. You can make mnemonics without reading a fucking book about it.
>>134887179
Should I not be using it all the time?
>>134887215
>>134887232
>>134887259
>>134887261
>>134887266
I learned my place. Thank you.
>>134887266
This
>>134885189
>Does anybody know if the 2000 first word of the Core 6k are the same than the Core 2k? I think I'll start reading/mining after finishing 2k but I wasn't sure if it was the same. I'm at 1k word in the Core 6k.
Anyone ?
ganbare onii-chan tachi
>>134885632
>90 minutes of anki every day
Unless you spend a total of 5+ hours a day on Japanese study, your ratio is way off.
I bought a book from a library sale genki second edition integrated course in elementary japanese. Is this book good for learning from scratch?
>>134887497
Anki is hardly studying.
>>134887456
Yes. The decks might be ordered differently depending on which deck you get though.
>>134887522
Yeah but /DJT/ hates it because it costs money.
>>134887522
>bought a book
Why.
>>134887532
That would be the point, yes.
>>134886383
What's with the vn discussion hate? The only vn threads on /jp/ is one tiny, slow general and a translation thread. There's almost more talk about vns in djt than all of /jp/ combined, because that place is a shithole obsessed with 3D crap and waifufagging. It's not a place for intelligent vn discussion of the sort you find here.
>>134887522
maybe
>>134887535
Okay thanks, I have the ancient core optimized deck.
http://exhentai.org/g/884145/a661e8539e/
I can't believe I wasted 24 euros on this shit, I expected compelling content but instead got somewhat-compelling content, fuck TTL.
Worst disappointment since Elite Dangerous
If you go at page 22 he talks about white girls, it's also the best pic in the set.
>>134887568
I like dead tree versions of literature and try to support my local library.
>>134887522
It mostly depends on you. Is it a good book ? Yes. Is it for you ? Maybe. Try it and don't hesitate to supplement it with/switch to Tae Kim/DoJG deck if you don't like it.
>>134887670
>>134887561
Thanks
>>134887670
He needs Japanese the Manga Way. Get it on Amazon in time for the holidays.
>>134887522
There's an audio disc. Don't forget to download it if it's missing.
>>134887697
No problems.
>>134887699
Who are you to know exactly what he needs ?
>>134887615
I only see a panda.
>>134887699
Shit, I could have ordered it for £18 but it's too late and it won't arrive before Christmas. Oh well, I'll stay with e-book.
>>134886948
>>134886959
Fuck off retards. You are the reason why /a/ is shit.
>>134887047
Boards don't need to be pointlessly fast to be good.
>>134887993
>You are the reason why /a/ is shit
That used to mean something.
>>134887993
Enlighten me on how is /jp/ any better?
>>134887993
/a/ is shit but /jp/ is also definitely shit, I can tell you don't even browse it, you're just trying to act hard.
>>134888033
Meaningless statement anon.
>>134888074
It isn't full of tertiaries. Something a Japanese language general should hold above all.
>>134888085
>I can tell you don't even browse it
I do.
>>134888126
>Japanese language general
This isn't one if you haven't realized yet.
>>134887699
I will probably get it. I see its on kindle too, so thats nice.
>>134888223
I think it's available on the link in the OP. It's definitely included in the Japanese language torrent pack.
>>134887993
Does this 105 days old piece of shit look like quality content to you?
>>>/jp/14042381
Or this?
>>>/jp/14142248
Most of the threads on /jp/ are nothing but inane dogshit.
>>134888417
I dunno anon, this is pretty good.
sheeit
I she boiling herself alive?
Also how do I remove the furigana?
Is it normal to be good at learning radicals but bad at learning vocabulary?
Also how do you write kanji so that they can still be read without being huge?
Should I mine every new word I see that I think is useful or just words I come across a decent amount of times
>>134888988
You learn radicals to learn kanji easily and you learn kanji to learn vocab easily. It seems like you forgot about the middle step.
With automatic pencil, they should be 7-8mm high and wide.
>>134889336
Every word you see and can't read.
>>134889336
>or just words I come across a decent amount of times
You're thinking in reverse. The more common a word the less necessary it is to mine it. What's the point of doing reps on a word you're going to see all the time anyway?
