There are a number of glaring parallels:
>both feature dense MCs, who are about to enter a world alien to them
>both depict a dangerous, yet exciting setting that pulls the viewer in
>both feature magic
>both have crazy, power hungry villains after the MC's life
>both feature highly desired artifacts that can grant wishes
>both have huge nutcase fandoms that churn out an infinite supply of fanfiction and analysis
>both feature main girls with long brown hair who are extremely talented and knowledgeable about magic
>>134021419
No, that's Index.
What's the "Snape killed Dumbledore" of Fate?
>>134021419
>>>/MALrecommendations/
>>134021567
Shirou is the white man
>>134021419
That's the dumbest comparison I've ever read.
>>134021419
Bait/Gay Blight is Bleach crossed with Pokémon, Harry Potter and crappy h-doujinshi.
>>134021419
Woah, now that you mention it.
>>134021567Shirou kills Saber.In one universe.
>>134021567Shirou is the Red Man
>>134021610
>>134022643
Nah that's the "I saved myself with a patronous" of Fate... Subverted
>>134021419
>>134021457
>>134021597
>>134021567
>>134022525
>>134022723
>>134022554
Harry Potter has
>themes
>symbolism
>characterization
>mystery
>cohesive plot direction
It's a quality series written by a quality author. Fate is a mess of garbage that's heading no where and has no internal consistency or depth.
Harry is hardly that dense, and even if he was he'd have a much better excuse than Shirou does.
>>134021419
I think Fate along with Evangelion and possibly Harry Potter and Final Fantasy VII influenced many later anime, vidya and light novels.
Not only due to OP's points but also
>cool foreign (to japs) words
>often byblical or mythological
>secret omnious organizations
>>134022767
Harry Potters last two books were garbage though, especially the last one.
>>134022859
>Final Fantasy VII
How? And with what specifically would you say is influenced by it?
>>134022767
>symbolism
Brother, you don't know how deep this rabbit hole goes.
>>134021419
harry wasn't dense outside of the first couple of books
>>134022767
I may have liked Harry Potter, but it's not exactly high quality literature, it's just generic fun teen fiction, same as Artemis Fowl and the rest just more popular.
>>134021567
Sakura killing the servantsand corrupting Seibah?
>>134022965
I mean the sheer poetry of Fate/stay night is almost incomprehensible to the layman.
Every scene, every frame, there's a second, sometimes even third narrative occurring underneath.
>>134023015
It's much better written than people think. Idiots assume that Harry Potter is popular because of its whimsical setting and fantasy elements. The truth is, it manages seven separate mystery plots that all tie together with an overarching story. Very few humans could write something like that and make it work.
>>134021419
No, Fate is actually good.
>>134021419
Nasu follows the same tired cliches that a million novels in the past have. Nothing new to see here.
>>134021567
Kotomine killed the orphans
>>134023072
aii
>you're a wizard Shirou
>>134022859
>Hermoine - Tsundere
>Cho Chang - passing love interest
>Luna Lovegood - Quirky girl
>Ginny Weasly - shy girl that wins
Was Harry Potter a harem series?
>>134021419
>Shirou
>dense
>>134022938
FF got plenty of foreign names like Midgard, Sephirot and Jenova, and a mega powerful corporation, Shinra.
While some character archetypes and story elements are present in previous vidya and anime it had such a place in pop culture that many people got introduced to many elements by it.
also another chuuni thing fate got is hand and body sigils.
>>134023176
Ginny wasn't really a shy girl that won so much as she was the out of nowhere ship. I think they spoke maybe once before they became a thing?
>>134023151
>LEREACTIONFACE.XD
The hack who wrote The English Patient is objectively a worse writer than JK Rowling. It takes a superior mind to write mystery.
If I asked you to design me a multilayered, thematically cohesive maze, could you do it? Could you? I doubt it. You have to be born with superior spacial reasoning abilities. Not just anybody has the mind for that.
>>134021419
I don't think they are anything alike.
>>134023221
She had a crush on him from the beginning and he saved her life in the second book/movie.
It was still a shit pairing though.
>>134023301
Well yeah, didn't Rowling basically say that herself?
>>134023097
>Fate is actually good.
I don't have a smug anime girl smug enough for this.
>>134021419
I think that Tsukihime is a lot more closer to Harry Potter desu. Harry and Voldemort's relationship is a lot like Shiki and Capslock-kun's, especially if you remember the Harry's dream about Nagini and Shiki's constant dreams about killing people.
>>134023260
Harry Potter is YA where villains and heroes are literally divided into different classes. Calm down anon
>>134023301
She might have liked him but the point was I don't think it was ever built up or anything
>>134023331
Nah Rowling said Ron and Hermione was shit, which was odd because that one actually felt somewhat natural.
>>134023336
Tsukihime is Twilight.
>>134023176
Luma was best girl, prove me wrong faggots. Should have won either the Harry or Neville bowl but Rowling NTR'd her with some never introduced character instead.
>>134023335
haha fate sucks XD
>>134023336
Except Harry Potter didn't start with him murdering the shit out of a random girl walking down the street.
>>134023378
Luna was too good for either of them, also the fact she leaves her husband at home to watch the house while exploring for random monsters makes me laugh every time.
I don't watch anime and I see this anime pop-up here on 4chan alot, where do I start?
>>134023474
Can't recall there being a Harry Potter anime, family.
>>134023364
Right, because the upper class has never oppressed the lower class in real life.
>>134023494
Pitting the "we're better than you because muh pure blood untainted by gooks" villains against people isn't what I'd call original or something impossible to write though. I can't recall Voldemort even having much of a plan besides becoming immortal and fucking over people who were half breeds. Was there an endgame besides "I am awesome and rule over everyone"?
>>134022767
Fate is being milked as a character brand lately, it only has one real sequel and it happened only a year or two after the original VN. I honestly don't know why it's so relevant and apparently the greatest fucking thing ever these days considering it's just the same old story being retold that already had an adaptation. I really wish it would just kind of fuck off already and I say that kind of liking it initially but it's long over stayed it's welcome as have its fucked up fans.
>>134023614
He was a faggot who had daddy issues and split his soul into, what, 8 pieces?
So no, not match of a plan, but do you expect someone like that to have one?
>>134023662
The only Fate thing that's been adapted more than once is UBW.
Saber x Saber OTP
>>134023614
it's funny, but she should've written the story about young dumbledore and his gay evil nazi boyfriend. She wrote six books of that boring plotline before she came up with something with real promise
>>134021419
No, because Nasu does not publicly announce "unmentioned details" every few years to conform with the most recent politically correct bullshit.
>>134023406
Both start with the MCs moving out from their adoptive families, though.
>>134022767
Harry Potter has a literal cookie-cutter Jesus myth story with like a billion occult namedrops and hardly any creativity.
/a/ bitches about school settings all the time too.
>>134023824
Who is /a/?
>>134023716
The best part is he made sure there was an obvious pattern to where he hid pieces of his soul, there didn't seem to be any tracking magic so I'm sure if he just put one piece in a coin and tossed it into the ocean or some shit he would have been fine, but of course he's too prideful or whatever.
>>134023372
>>134023822
I'm sure that's a relatively common start to a series.
>>134023614
Ask Hitler what his plan was.
>>134023936
What other animu and movies have that start?
>>134023758
It feels like more since the fans literally never shut the fuck up about it or how they think you're supposed to see it. I don't think I could possibly convey one more time to these people how absolutely little I gave a fuck about how this or that scene translated from the VN or not or how I apparently had to put the kiddie gloves on with it and say only the most glowing positive things about it like the rest of the fucking sheep. Fucking most overhyped shit to come out of late and that's saying something considering some other VN shit with retarded zealot fans like Charlotte and Steins Gate. Fuck I gave Steins Gate 9/10 tier scores and I still can't fucking stand the people that still go on about it. Visual Novel fans are fucked is the impression I've started to get from some recent adaptations, they're like Light Novel fans except they truly seem to think that they're conveying life changing masterpieces to you and doing you a favor by telling you how to watch them and that if there's anything you don't like it'd just the animes fault and being shits about it.
>>134023824
You're not appreciating how hard mysteries are to write. I mean, like in Book Four, you have them see the culprit on the magic map, but the culprit has the same name as his father, so they think it's the father instead. Then you get to the end and you're like "No way!", but then you realize all the clues were there.
It's not surprising that Rowling is currently writing a detective series. She always had a talent for mysteries.
>>134023989
>>134023975
Tsubasa and FMA are all that come to mind, but I'm sure I'm just blanking.
>>134023997
Didn't read any of this.
>>134023997
Take a breath anon
>>134023895
it's not the One Ring, you can't just toss it randomly or some fish will get it.
the real deciding factor in which property is better; what gets the better porn? Fate wins, and even by anime standards, most of the harry potter stuff sounds deeply disturbed
>>134024077
Who cares if a fish gets it though? Doesn't it just have to exist somewhere and not get stabbed by a magic sword and you're good for unlife?
>be lord voldemorte
>send a magic relic with some of your power to the Negaverse
>a japanese magical girl destroys it
FUCKING HARRY POTTER
>>134023997
>>134023050
> it manages seven separate mystery plots that all tie together
Thats the only good part, it should have been better as a detective series
>>134021419
This pasta again?
R.I.P fate.
>>134023176
Ginny is not Shy. She was very agressive overall, also talented.
She was only shy when she was 13 in the chamber of secrets.
>>134024124
the magic you need to destroy them isn't that high, unlike lotr where it was only dragons or mt doom. also, harry potter had an underlying 'magic makes coincidental things happen,' so some half-assed mermaid would be bound to sit on it & break it somehow.
>>134024305
She was better when she was shy. She turned into a complete slut that wasn't likable at all.
>>134024353
I don't really remember that law so I'll take your word for it.
>>134024383
i think I see why you stopped reading harry potter and started watching anime
8^ ]
Luna best girl and had better chemistry with Harry than Ginny
should have gotten with Longbottom
>>134023221
It wasn't out of nowhere, they looked at each other every now and then and she had a girly crush when she first met him.
Harry always had a thing for her, when she got a boyfriend he was jealous as shit.
>>134024449
Ginny did shit after the second book but act like a Mary Sue (winning every Quidditch game when Harry wasn't around) and make out with every guy in the school.
>>134024383
Except Ginny helped harry every fucking time? When he was down she helped him, she helped Ron a lot and Hermione too. How was she not likeable?
>>134024542
>Muh purity!
Harry was having yellow fever, not her problem the retard was fucking a chink instead of her.
>>134024597
>fucking
lol
You mean Nurutu
>Orphan outcasted kid
>Is part of a group of three friends
>Old white haired master
>Godfather die during the series
>Loving parents who died protectig him as a baby
>Chosen one shenanigans
>Distinctive facial scar
>Don´t not get with main girl causing hilarious butthurt on the internet
>>134024502
I'm glad that rowling publicly wishing she hadn't gone with the ron/hermione route showed us that schoolgirl crushes on your idol are more fulfilling than a maturing relationship between two lifelong friends.
Stop defending the poorly written parts of harry potter. She's a really good at making characters, but all the stuff with ginny is where she dropped the ball.
>>134024597
>Except Ginny helped harry every fucking time? When he was down she helped him
In the most smug and bitchy way possible. She berated him for being down and was like "STOP FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELF".
>she helped Ron
By making fun of him for being a virgin?
>and Hermione too
She yelled at Hermione too.
>How was she not likable
Because she slept around and always tried to act cool. Then the romance comes out of no where and we're supposed to pretend they have this special bond when they don't?
>>134024631
I know Harry/Hermione still causes butthurt, but does NaruSaku do as well?
>>134024657
Except she didn't at all, like I said Ginny and Harry had a thing for each other.
Did you watch the movies and never read the books or something? Harry was awkward around her since the first time they met.
>>134024631
Most of this shit is part of the Jesus myth, like I said >>134024008
>>134024597
even on 4chan, making fun of somebody for purity bullshit and then hating harry potter cuz he dated an asian girl seems kinda weird
>>134024681
>I never read the books
Also
>She slept around
Around what you fucking retard? Purityfags are fucking stupid. Harry was going after cho chang and kissing her, just fuck off.
>>134024765
It pisses me off that Rowling intentionally has all the characters date other people before settling on their endgame. It's because she's divorced, so she has to rationalize her second husband has her soulmate somehow.
>>134024756
Did I said I hated on Harry for dating Cho? Are you retarded?
I only said the guy was with another girl, purityfags are fucking stupid with their double standards.
>>134023072
>villain uses the ultimate magic spell that OHKOs every character in existence
>MC survives it just because he's the fucking MC
Every fucking anime that does this is shat on, while HP somehow gets praise
>>134024807
Harry should have married Luna.
>>134021419
No. Japan has tons of Harry Potter clones. I'm pretty sure there is 3 airing this season.
>/a/ - Harry Potter
>>134024657
Are you trying to suggest the Ron/Hermione relationship made sense and that Harry/Ginny didn't?
k e k
>>134023372
Then what is Kara no Kyōkai.
>>134024807
No, it's because people in real life date different people since their teen years until they're adults and meet their loved one.
I bet your mother was gangbanged a few times before meeting your dad and your dad fucked a few trannies too.
>It's because she's divorced, so she has to rationalize her second husband has her soulmate somehow.
Please tell me this is bait, you can't be this retarded
>>134024832
It's Christian symbolism, you turbine faggot.
Harry gave himself up to save everyone, just like Jesus did. And just like Jesus, he rose again.
>>134024865
Terrorist propaganda.
>>134024807
Do you really think the best explanation for characters not marrying the first person they date as fifteen-year-olds is because the author is desperate to rationalize her divorce?
>>134021419
HP is vastly better than FSN desu
>>134024879
Ha ha, you're so pathetic trying to make it sound normal.
The idea of meeting your wife/husband as a child is a fantasy no matter what. It's not any less of a fantasy by having Harry date Cho Chang for a year or by having Hermione neck a sports star for five minutes. It's still a childish fantasy. The only difference is that it's a modified fantasy for divorced people so they won't feel bad about their divorce.
>normal romance fantasy
children meet their soulmate at a young age, start dating them, then get married for life
>modified but still unrealistic romance fantasy
children meet their soulmate at a young age, have one relationship other than them, then get together with their soulmate and marry for life
>>134021419
Tohsaka = Hermione
Shinji = Malfoy (Ron before HGW 5)
>>134024937
He does. He's a betamax that lives in manga world and thinks you meet you're waifu at 12 and marry her and have babies.
>>134024720
Harry was awkward because an 11 year old wanted to fuck him. Before you make a scene at uni, you should realize that people are mostly only awkward towards those they aren't interested in.
The ones that are awkward if they like you basically stand there staring at your face with their mouth open, and it's really rare and just might have to do with a cultural imprinting of too many bollywood movies
>>134024937
Do you seriously believe that having every character date other people even when it doesn't make sense wasn't purposely put their for a reason?
Hermione has a fling with a popular athlete.
Ron has Hermione in his hands, then decides to go date a slut for no reason.
Ginny wants Harry secretly but was literally told to go date other people, so she goes through men like coats.
Harry is the only one who was slightly believable in dating Cho.
>>134024965
And why does she have to write normal cliche fantasy?
You're seriously not trying anymore.
>>134024809
bro, you called her a chink tho bro
>>134025014
She doesn't have to do anything, but it's obvious that she intentionally had each of the characters have at least one relationship before ending up with their future husband/wife.
>>134024890
>Harry gave himself up to save everyone, just like Jesus did. And just like Jesus, he rose again.
Just like Ciel's route!
>>134025008
>Do you seriously believe that having every character date other people even when it doesn't make sense wasn't purposely put their for a reason?
Yes, I do, because I'm not an autist who reads deep political intentions into every aspect of a kids' book. It's fucking drama. It exists so that something happens and the books last longer. It's not a fucking defense of second marriages or whatever you think it is.
>>134025008
Hermione never had an INTEREST in Krum, she did it to make Ron jealous. Have you ever read or watched Harry Potter at all?
Ron has an inferiority complex and he always fights with hermione, he's a fucking tsundere. He treated her badly and mocked her about not having a date because he wanted to invite her but was too shy and inexperienced to do it.
Ginny just tried to move on from and dated other people, like normal people do. You don't stop living your life because your childhood crush is busier fighting an ancient Nazi magician.
Harry had a hard on for Cho so he just went for it. She was hot and he a 15 y/o boy.
Is fate/stay night the retarded equivalent of boku no pico?
>both feature blonde protagonists with flat chests
>both feature a brown hair protagonist with no idea of what sex is
>both feature magic being relished by sex
>both feature long hard "artifacts" being pulled out of someone
>both have huge fandoms that constantly churn out shitposting
>>134025063
This is you just being insecure because you know a girl would never be with you and your tiny dick if she had a boyfriend before.
>>134021419
I didn't know Harry Potter had sex scenes
>>134025109
jk rowling has been retconning everything with a politcal intention in interviews. The anon is still wrong about it being a self-justification for second marriages, but keep in mind that this is /a/ where having any kind of human relationship sounds like a fantasy
>>134021419
If you're talking the products themselves, fuck no! What the fuck are you smoking?
If you're ttalking the fanbase then yes, cause both FSN and the Potter fanbases are fucking elitist cancer
>>134025204
You didn't read the part harry inserted his wand and casted wingardium leviosa on it so that he could make Ginny's defenseless mandragora fly?
>>134024681
>In the most smug and bitchy way possible. She berated him for being down and was like "STOP FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELF".
In case you weren't paying attention, there's a very good reason she's the only character close to his age to stop him mid-outburst. Ron and Hermione meant well, but their approach to calming him down was always to prod him with a stick and then cower, and in seven years it NEVER FUCKING WORKED and he just stormed off in a huff.
Ginny went for the jugular because that's what was required to get him to simmer the fuck down, AND because she was fairly irritated that he'd never consider asking her for help.
>By making fun of him for being a virgin?
Again, were you paying attention? She had lost her shit, that wasn't deliberate. Ron implied she was a slut in front of Harry, and her first response was a "Well, Harry dated too!" because that's what she was concerned with. She was raging at Ron because she had lost her temper in the exact same way he always did: saying shit they'd immediately regret.
>She yelled at Hermione too.
And it was damn well fucking deserved. That whole scene and buildup being changed from the movie was terrible for Hermione's character since it stripped her of her petty honest flaws. Ron was already hissing at her to shut it when Ginny snapped.
How about instead of talking about nonexistent parallels, we talk about how Suzanne Collins blatantly plagiarized Battle Royale?
>>134025168
Did a nerve get hit? Feeling guilty about sleeping around?
Rowling is the romantic. She's said multiple times that she wanted Harry and Ginny from the beginning and loved the whole "saving the damsel" thing. But then she realized that a childhood romance like that clashes with her own life, where she got divorced, so she had to alter it so all the characters date the wrong person before ending up with their Forever Girl/Guy.
>>134023158
N O
>>134025227
i kinda prefer the fsn fanbase just because it's an anime fanbase and they know they have a delusional lifestyle really unfit anywhere else. The harry potter fans I've met has included a lot of full grown adults trying to get their cp-grade fanfiction normalized.
You know, shit like this >>134025243
>>134025063
How can you believe a person that tells you I love you the most in the world when you know the only thing she knows is you?
BTFO purityshit
>>134025337
Just like the autists making
>Write your TM mollusk scene thread
Stop being new
>>134025223
>characters meet their future husbands/wives as children and start dating them as teenagers
That is not realistic.
>characters meet their future husbands/wives as children, date one other person before them, then end up with the future husbands/wives
That is also not realistic.
So of the two unrealistic fantasies, why did JK Rowling go with the latter rather than the former?
>>134025338
By that logic, love is more pure and real the more people you date before getting married. Everyone should date 1000 people just to be sure when they meet the right one.
>>134024765
>>134025008
Why did harry and cho break up anyway? It felt like it was just a completely abandoned (brief) plotline that climaxed with a kiss. And then Ginny shows up a book later.
>>134025365
they're not trying to normalize it. They're not posting slam poetry videos defending they're sexuality on upworthy.com
TM fans are sick, broken fucking people, but it stays on /a/ thank christ
>>134025384
Do you fucking realize that every single fucking pair of magic people in Britain within 7 years of age of one another has been classmates?
If they're dating anybody close in age, they met as teenagers because there's only one cunting school in the British Isles. Unless they married a muggle/foreigner or someone significantly above their age bracket, EVERYONE met everyone else as children.
>>134025400
Because she was a fucking snitch and Harry could never trust her again?
He might seem like a nice guy but Harry was pretty asshole-ish or dead serious when he didn't want to get along with you for some reason.
>>134024008
Oh, nonsense.
Even Scooby Doo would seem like an epic thriller if you held off the clues for years to come.
>>134025483
>Because she was a fucking snitch
Guess I'm forgetting, what'd she do again?
>>134021419
>>134025400
Ultimately because Cho's friend betrayed them and Cho took her friend's side.
One thing I love about Rowling is that she hates traitors and treats them with the utmost contempt.
>>134025400
rowling wanted to show guys what happens when you date a trauma victim. Nothing happens, she cries when you get physical, and both of you forgot to keep calling eachother.
You should always go for the genki girl, because if you don't, she becomes the next sad girl. just like in toradora
>>134023895
>>134024124
>>134024353
I thought it had to do with the fact that Horcruxes are useless unless you have someone who can find them, and activate them to bring you back to life.
>>134024077
He could have put them in places around the world, and not hidden them in where he has all of his favorite things.
We can write all the laws we want, but the requirement is that he HIDE THEM IN GOOD PLACES, and he choose not to do that. Did he think that nobody would ever figure out what he was up to or start looking for his shit?
Christ, he had one in his big dumb snake! What if one of the morons fed it some poison or whatever?
>>134025475
It's still not realistic to start dating someone at age 16 and stay with them for life.
It happens, but it's extremely rare.
>>134025400
Because once they actually started dating, Harry realized he really didn't have much fun hanging out with her. Also, she was still hung up on Cedric and constantly weepy, and he was in absolutely no position to be anybody's emotional support at that time since he spent the whole year a hair's breadth from losing his shit.
Then there was the thing with her friend ratting them out, again how she was constantly crying, and eventually he just stopped giving a fuck after a fight. When he heard she was dating someone else, he was mildly surprised at the fact that he did not give a damn.
>>134025483
That was only the movie guy.
In the book he pissed her off because she thought he had a thing with Hermoine during Valentine's Day and he had a full on Shirou moment where he processed her assumption in his head and laughed out loud at her without thinking and she ran away crying.
That and her friend was the snitch, which she defended when Harry was about to full on rip her to shreads.
>>134025545
You can't kill nagini with poison sperg. Nagini's just based like that.
Remember when she rekt Hermione and Ron? Based.
>>134025545
>Christ, he had one in his big dumb snake! What if one of the morons fed it some poison or whatever?
Once it became a horcrux it became immune to most forms of attacks.
>>134025505Her friend betrayed and leaked about the Dumbledore's Army that brought it to its ruin and Cho is supporting her.
>>134023895
I think yo kind of missed the entire point of Voldemort's character. If he had actually been a practical person, he wouldn't even have called himself Voldemort.
>>134025545
the author explained that he started using them in fun ways like the book or snake because he had so many. Clearly, the author is kinda full of crap
>>134025545
>Did he think that nobody would ever figure out what he was up to or start looking for his shit?
Dude, really. There was an entire book dedicated to establishing exactly this. The theatrics were the point in and of themselves. It was inherent to the character.
>>134025605
>rekt
>based
>nagini's just based like that
>>134025625
>>134025545
>Christ, he had one in his big dumb snake! What if one of the morons fed it some poison or whatever?
Christ man, learn to read. This is how Dumbledore realizes there's more than one, and accurately guesses why he made Nagini.
>>134025534
I remember it being that you weren't killable until that point, since when he got avadra'd by Harry's Mom's love shield thing he just floated off as a spirit and possessed Quirrel.
>>134025534
Then let your gang of mind-controlled cult members take care of that!
I know he's pretty prideful, but isn't he supposed to be pretty paranoid too? He made it pretty easy to find out where he was putting this shit, just by having an idea of what who he was, shit he kept one as a bloody pet.
I mean, what took him years to do, a small gang of teens went about and collected his soul-hiding places in a matter of days, weeks? At least make them places were only the most hardcore wizards can get to, or where only your most dedicated cult members would try to tread to.
I know we have to make it so that protagonists actually can stop him, but it doesn't make him look or smart if he's hiding in his soul and keeping them in obvious hiding places.
It'd be like hiding your terrorist plots in your porn folder. Do you think they're not going to look in there?
I like how we went from >>134021567
to talking about why all the females from Harry Potter are a bunch of sluts and hoes.
>>134025725
>Weeks
It took them the entire year and they're the MCs what do you expect? Also his cult was useless as fuck at guarding his horcruxes.
>>134025725
To be fair the one in Gringots bank wasn't a bad idea, but the fact it was so obvious which one it was in the vault because it was hogwarts based.
>>134025725
If it were a Japanese RPG there'd be a Horcrux entrusted do Lucius Malfoy, Bellatrix Lestrange, Crabbe and Goyle Sr.s, and 2 other generic bad death eaters, and not just left unprotected.
>>134025800
The one they found in hogwarts was very secretive too. A tiara or something guarded by a ghost? Don't remember
>>134025841
And then Harry would just have to beat those faggots, too fucking easy.
Harry almost died several times while searching for those shits, hell his mind was going insane too, frodo-style.
>>134025706
we're saying that it's a stupid character to make, having flaws like that. Also, considering this site is full of racist asexuals with weird skin, isn't harry potter just a propaganda piece telling children to hate people like that? If JK Rowling wasn't using her books to jumpstart hate against 4chan users, then she would have a written an interesting, nuanced magic nazi supervillain instead of a strawman caricature
>>134021567
Archer wanting to kill his own self.
>>134025725
>I know he's pretty prideful, but isn't he supposed to be pretty paranoid too?
And that is EXACTLY why he didn't do that. He told absolutely nobody that he had made Horcruxes. The closest he ever got to that was threatening Bellatrix to the point that she lost her shit at the mere thought of someone approaching her vault, but even she didn't know what Voldemort had hidden in it.
Voldemort trusted absolutely nobody. This was why he made Nagini: the only other being he'd trust to act as his right hand as scout was himself.
He then went and systematically killed most links to his past life, not realizing Dumbledore had beaten him to the punch and already extracted important information from them. Harry knows what he knows because Dumbledore gave him that information to him alone, and the rest because he understood his personality and knew how to get inside his head, both literally and figuratively.
As for the locations: again, if you're wondering why he went the theatrical route, you're kind of missing the entire point of the character. He's not Dark Lord Sauron, he's Tom the Dickhead Orphan, a megalomaniac psychopathic asshole who created a larger-than-life persona when he was a teenager and spent the rest of his life making himself enough of a threat that he could make others play along. That's why Dumbledore and Harry get stubborn about his name: they both realize that it's all a big fucking show for his ego, and that nothing terrifies him more than being reminded that he's actually just a guy underneath, not a supernatural monster.
>>134025885
Yes, and you should hate inbred rednecks like /pol/tards, there's nothing wrong with that.
Nobody wants their kids to grow into useless neets that talk shit in 4chan.
>>134025885
I don't know if you're trolling or just legit insane.
>>134025957
isn't that why your here? cuz your never gonna have kids?
>>134025942
Is bellatrix yandere? Why didn't Harry hatefuck her?
Why did they censor Molly using avada kedavra on her?
>>134026034
it was the rn patch for all ages.
Harry didn't hatefuck bellatrix because she's his aunt and that'd been too weird for england
>>134023761
If Arthur and Arturia fuck, what would Ayaka and Shirou do?
>>134026155
>because she's his aunt
Harry has no living relatives other than Petunia. Bellatrix is Draco's aunt and Sirius' cousin.
>>134025942
I'll concede to the points you're making.
>>134026034
>SHE KILLED HIM!
I was pretty touched by that scene, never had seen Harry so pissed off.
>>134026309
ah i thought bellatrix was sirius's sister, so she'd be an aunt since sirius was harry's father. sorry, completely forgot
>>134021419
In the sense that they're both overrated garbage, yes.
>>134026432
>Sirius was harry's father
Lily confirmed for keking James.
>>134021419
Those similiarities are pretty vagues and found in virtually every story with magic and a few young characters.
>both depict a dangerous, yet exciting setting that pulls the viewer in
That is supposed to be bad?
Anyway, Harry Potter isn't fate.
For one, it focuses too much on prophesies.
And it keeps teasing the audience about mysteries that the audience already knows the secret to.
Tries to make every character relevant. Fate at least knows when to keep characters irrelevant, which is good.
Harry Potter's biggest mistake is not really expanding on the magic. Harry is show to do a few spells and abuses the shit out of them even know they're not useful. He'd be better off doing avada kedavra but he probably didn't because he didn't want to stoop as low as Voldemort. At least, Shirou does everything he can and uses whatever tool when shit goes down.
Also, the themes that Fate explores are more interesting.
>>134026416
I'm pretty fucking pissed they cut out him torturing that dude for shits and giggles out of the DH movie. Book Harry is "Overall good guy, but anger dial does go all the way to murder" and the sixth book established part of his main motivations was just wanting to see Voldemort dead.
The movies just scrubbed his character squeaky clean and then they just took his virtues and gave them to Hermione.
>>134021419
Harry Potter is not a porno OP.
>>134026432
>ah i thought bellatrix was sirius's sister
Orion black had two sons: Sirius and Regulus. Orion's brother Sygnus had three daughters: Bellatrix, Andromeda and Narcissa.
>>134021567
Sakura being the "villain" in HF
>>134026500
>Fatefags honestly believe their garbage porn game is better written than Harry Potter
>>134026500
>For one, it focuses too much on prophesies.
This is one of the most amusing bits of pop culture osmosis I've ever seen. The book does a thing, the movie fucks it up, and the current popular perception is that the book does the literal exact fucking opposite of what it actually did.
There's a whole damn scene where Dumbledore more or less beats into Harry that the prophecy mattered precisely jack fucking shit, and yet the popular understanding is that the thing was somehow important.
>>134026633
>Harry Potter tumblrfags honestly think their YA garbage is better written than a shitty porn game
>>134026656
>Meanwhile JK Rowling is the richest bong woman
>>134026651
Don't bother with him, he says HP is YA garbage but you can clearly see he can't understand it.
So if he can't understand "YA garbage" what kind of argument can he ever give?
>>134021419
Harry potter has the best games ever in gamindustry(1 and 2 for PC).
Fate has shitty games.
>>134026711
Twilight is high literature I'm guessing?
>>134026711
>popular = good
Whoa, what is this >>>/lit/ shit doing here?
>>134026775
>>134026809
You were already proven wrong by this anon >>134026651
Why do you keep going? it's pathetic, you can't understand
>YA garbage
How does that make you feel?
>>134026880
I don't really give two shits which franchise is "better" but to argue one is better than the other due to money is retarded.
>>134021419
EX rank Noble Phantasm coming through.
>>134026735
I mean, REALLY. Most of the shit people get wrong about these books isn't even subtle. You can not get more in-your-face than the perpetually serene mentor getting all Ian-McKellen-Gandalf worked-up and effusively telling the main character that Thing is not important and why.
Granted, the movies REALLY fucked that shit up the cooch, but the result is that you have people who consider "The Chosen One" to have been a real plotpoint, when the books play that entire thing as a surbversion of the cliché and the actual utterance is dramatic-sounding nonsense manufactured in-universe by tabloid writers.
>>134026925
Are you fucking stupid? I was mocking anon because he's a fucking sperg and not worth of a fucking reply because he talks about something he clearly doesn't understand.
It's not about money, it's about not falling for his bait.
>>134026985
>I was only pretending to be retarded
Or you could just call him out on his bad argument.
/lit/ here.
Fuck this thread.
>>134022767
>themes
Stay Night and Zero were about what it means to be a hero. Harry Potter's world is highly immersive and heavily fleshed out, and its characters are likable, but I'd be interested to hear a perspective on why it was particularly deep. Early books were meant to be easily digestible for a young audience and its use of a standard, one dimensional, fantasy dark lord didn't really do it any favors in that department. Beyond Snape, at the very end, its goodies were good and its baddies were bad with little ponderance or ambiguity; one wonder why they didn't just axe Slytherin.
>>134026952
The movies did explain a lot of things, people just don't understand a lot because they didn't pay attention and now like to spout memes and hate it because it's popular. Just like they did back then.
Granted they were pretty meh all of them but still, in the 4th movie you have like 10 minutes of Voldemort saying to Harry that he never survived because he was some sort of chosen one and that's just a lie. He survived because of his mother, not because he's special.
>>134027046
How often do random YA books get discussed on /lit/ anyways? I assumed they wee just trying to make a thread to talk about it here because even lit wouldn't want to talk about the new Maximum Ride or whatever shit.
>>134023614
Voldemort sucked.
Dumbledore and Grindelwald summer gay adventure as dark lords would have been more interesting because they had some kind of plan.
>>134021419
HP's worldbuilding feels more natural. Fate feels like it always has a DM.
>>134027115
Let's find out, shall we?
>>>/lit/7395529
Though, to answer your question, not often. YA and most speculative fiction is pretty stigmatized on /lit/, you'd have better luck trying to talk about anim, VNs or LNs.
>>134024077
Dude, what? Sauron fucked around with people way better than Voldemort did. Including when he was doing his Annatar bullshit.
Remember Numeror?
>>134026515
Wait what guy? Was it diner guy or ministry guy?
>>134027241
Both of them fucked a lot with people.
Also, we learning about Voldemort and his family's past was great in the books. The movie really cut that short and gave it little focus.
>>134027115
What's wrong with Maximum Ride?
>>134027311
Not in the way Sauron used to fuck with people with before he got Dark and Firey and then became a Giant Eyeball.
Voldemort always struck me as a bitter sociopath with daddy issues while Sauron/Mairon/Annatar was a force of absolute order and industry, to the point he was a tyrant, like the dark side of capitalism and technology in middle earth. It's kind of interest to contrast him with his Master who is more chaotic evil.
>>134027378
It was ok, like most random YA, but if you read the last volume it was a absolute trainwreck to the point of hilarity. The random angst between max and fang was pretty groan inducing too.
>>134026942
What a shitty faker sword you got there mongrel
>>134022767
>lying on the internet.
>>134026942
It does absolutely nothing. It'll be B ranked at most.
>>134027390
And Voldemort used to fuck with people when he was like 5 in an orphanage anon.
Like I said, both of them fucked people. And yes Voldemort is a psycho but not with daddy issues, mommy issues were what he had.
>>134023942
Crashing the World
>>134027424
Look Gil, a Snake. That sword killed it, what did you do?
>>134027445
>Does absolutely nothing
It Kills giant snakes and horcruxes
>>134027462
That makes him a sociopath.
I just don't see it comparable with someone like Sauron or Morgoth who are more forces of nature.
>>134027511
>>134027287
Neither. One of the twin Death Eaters that get put in charge of Hogwarts. His twin sister gets knocked out, Harry hides, and the brother shows up with McGonagall and panicks because his sister had called Voldemort as if they had captured Harry. Thinking it was a fuckup, he decides he's going to tell Voldemort that she got mobbed by the students who activated the mark themselves. McGonagall flips out and tells him he won't allow him to throw a bunch of kids under the bus to save his skin, and the dude just tells her to go get fucked and spits on her face.
By that point, Harry was so past pissed off with the hellhole he'd heard Hogwarts had been turned into that he just walks out of cover and casts Crucio on him.
>>134027462
I know Rowling tried to explain the fucked up circumstances of his birth and his loveless childhood as reasons for why he's a psycho but I think he's always meant to be crazy.
>>134027462
>a psycho but not with daddy issues
He deliberately fucked up his face to not look like his father.
Oh, also that one time he went and murdered him and all his fucking family. That had to count for something.
>>134027511
Big deal? It's attribute would be "effective against snakes."
You're retarded if you think that shitty sword can be anymore than C, specially when has zero fame points. Have you forgotten Excalibur, the sword made by Gaia as planet-threat killer and easily destroys armies, castle, mountains, etc is A++? Also most famous sword ever.
Griffindor's sword is a cheap knock off of Caliburn and Excalibur without beam powers, in how the concept is made by Rowling, it was mean to be a reference.
>>134027603
Comparing powerlevels between these two universes is pretty dumb, HP is generally very low on the powerlevel scale.
Dudes with guns could beat most wizards.
>>134027445
Technically, it "takes in only that which makes it stronger"
Basically, anything that coul hurt it is instead absorbed and made a a part of the weapon.
>Kill giant poisonous snake
>Blade becomes impregnated with the most deadly venom known to man
The only reason it isn't completely broken is because the only people to use it in-universe are too purehearted/stupid to minmax.
There is a LOT of stuff in that universe that could be used to make that sword a Godkiller.
>>134027603
This shit is why Fate is inferior.
>>134027046
/lit/ is a cancerous place.
What the fuck is this thread? This isn't /a/ related at all.
Who would win in a fight between an average Nasuverse magus and an average Harry Potter wizard?
>>134025942
>a megalomaniac psychopathic asshole who created a larger-than-life persona when he was a teenager and spent the rest of his life making himself enough of a threat that he could make others play along
Sounds like Dio.
>>134021419
What are you talking about?
HP is a magic school battle harem.
>>134027580
He's basically meant to be nega-Harry. Similar fucked-up childhood, completely different choices and results.
The point of the "three lost children" symbolism was that the three pretty much started in comparable situations and had similar possibilities, but Harry was the only one who didn't go the fucked-up route. Personal choice and responsibility is a big theme in the books, the idea being that life deals you shitty cards sometimes, but what you do with them is up to you.
>>134027621
>There is a LOT of stuff in that universe that could be used to make that sword a Godkiller.
Anti-Divine weapons aren't weird in Fate, anon. It's fairly common.
And as bottom rule it's pretty much a knock of Excalibur. Harry himself is poor ya wizard's version of King Arthur. There are clear parallels Rowling was setting. He even married Ginevra (one of Guinevere's name).
>>134027682
Can Dio kill wizards?
>>134027287
>Harry shouted, “ Crucio! ” The Death Eater was lifted off his feet. He writhed through the air like a drowning man, thrashing and howling in pain, and then, with a crunch and a shattering of glass, he smashed into the front of a bookcase and crumpled, insensible, to the floor.
Grindelwald had more of a strong personality in a short cameo than Voldemort had in all his appearances.
>>134027699
>Harry will get NRT'd by his universe's Lancelot.
I'm ok with this.
>>134027718
Can vampires and ghosts kill wizards?
>>134025852
It was some ancient relic tiara in the segred room Harry used for Dumbledore's Army which apparently Voldemort assumed nobody would be able to find.
>>134027618
HP has the three curses and the deathly hallows though.
Also Dementors are beyond broken.
>>134027746
Grindelwald was Albus' foil (and love interest), most respected wizard of that time.
Voldemort foil was Harry Potter...
>>134027603
>Beam powers
This is the most retarded shit ever. I can't believe you defend a series where the ultimate power is shooting laser beams.
>>134027699
Except it's not anti-divine, it's anti everything.
>>134027781
>Also Dementors are beyond broken.
Because they eat souls? All Servants can eat souls with ease: because they are spirits. It's their nourishment. Most are too moralfag to do it.
>>134027781
The killing curse is slower than a bullet and I'm pretty sure you have to be up close and concentrated to use the other two curses. The ring sucks and the cloak has limited usefulness, leaving the wand as the most useful but it can also be broken.
How do you counter Dementors again?
>>134027882
>How do you counter Dementors again?
The Patronus.
>>134027857
I think he was comparing to muggles anon.
>>134027603
Fucking mongrel. That cheap faker Excalibur isn't effective against snakes, it's power is it absorbs foreign elements like the Basilisk venom making it effective against Horcruxes.
Any sword could have beheaded the basilisk. It's just only important because it has end game potential against Voldemort.
>On a side note, EMIYA made the fake Sword of Gryffindor
>>134027857
Because they're amortal and can fuck with your mind just by being a few blocks where you are.
Unless servants know how to do patronus they're getting fucked by dementors unless you want to pull Gate of Asspull take a weapon that can kill dementors because reasons
>>134027924
Yeah, but isn't that the user's willpower or spirit or something?
>>134027941
>On a side note, EMIYA made the fake Sword of Gryffindor
It was his poor attempt of making Excalibur, his true love.
Oh god we've moved on to the portion of the evening where we wank our preferred series' powerlevels for no reason other than competitiveness
Having higher powerlevels isn't inherently a good thing guys
>>134027962
Read the wikia, it's very complete.
>>134027949
What is magic resistance?
>>134027992
It always devolves into this when you have Fatefags.
>>134027992
Fatefags have nothing else that can put them above anything, just read the guy saying laser beams are cool.
