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You should be enjoying your life despite all the shit god throws at you because deep down they are kind
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You should not be enjoying your life because deep down you know that you are stuck on /a/.
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>"You idiot."
The most satisfying thing in this volume so far.
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>>133599257
Don't make another thread if there are no new updates with the translations fag OP.
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>>133599371
>translations
Secondary detected.
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>>133599394
>Secondary detected.
Primary detected.
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Kamisato literally doing nothing wrong.

Touma is a huge faggot for getting in his way.
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>>133599316
>yfw we are our shitty harem
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>>133599448
>Kamisato literally doing nothing wrong
He attacked Tsuchimikado. He also acts like a bitch. Dude deserves a life correcting punch.
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>>133599448
He's little bitch. He deserves to get punched.
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>>133599448
He is not living his life correctly
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妻子如衣服, 兄弟如手足
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>>133599525
>He attacked Tsuchimikado

No proof for that fag, for all we know he could fucking seria and ain't at home.
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>Literally just got thrown off a building just to get complained at about having a harem

>Didn't fuck his shit up for wasting his time right there and then

Touma gone soft because of that witch.
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>>133599635
>No proof for that
A character stating it isn't proof? But fine sure, he's out fucking Seria, then Kamisato is a dick for lying to Touma and making him worry for no apparant reason.
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>>133599688
>A character stating it isn't proof?

There are many characters in index that are just full of shit.
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>>133599684
He just wants to have dinner
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>>133599759
A good example is the first few volumes where characters are tossing around absolutes dictated by Tree Diagram when in fact it was never actually right about anything except the weather. I'm convinced almost everything we think we know in Raildex is merely a case of elaborate misdirection on Aleister's and Laura's part.
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If othinus is still sort of a magic god why don't she just teleport food in the house?
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>>133599858
To me is less about manipulation and more about characters not knowing shit about what their are talking but firmly believing they are right
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>>133600085
So basically, like real life?
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>>133599684
It'd be so fucking satisfying to see him punch Kamisato's harem one by one.
Doubt that though, he doesn't seem to think bad of them, just their leader.
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>>133600172
One normal highschool boy vs 100 bitches on heat
The battle of the Century
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Only Harem Accepters in this thread...
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>>133601183
We're just all part of Toumas harem, that's all. Nothing wrong with being 100% loyal to your master.
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>>133602001
You have all of my keks anon.
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>>133602001
Kill yourself
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After this chapter, the name "World Rejector" started making much more sense.
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>>133603103
Oh shit you're right.
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Never thought I'd be excited for a fight over clashing harem ideologies.
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Is this one of those "I choose my own destiny!" sort of spiels?
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>>133606083
10/10
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>>133606083
Perfect. I'm still waiting for that EVA edit of Kamisato.

>You now have this awesome power
>This hot girls
>These others cute girls
>"I HATE YOU MAGIC GODS"
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I don't think Kamisato is completely in the right, but I have not been in support of Touma's actions since NT10. No, it's not because of shipfagging or waifus. I honestly think he made the wrong choice to save Othinus and believe that choice is going to fuck him over completely. And once again, I don't give a shit about shipping and waifus so that's not why I refuse to be on Touma's side as long as he has Othinus. I never wanted him to end up with any girl because I don't think this is the right series for shipping
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>>133606826
Othinus is the single most important influence on him, there's no good reason for her to become irrelevant to him. She's as big a part in his life as Index, just not forgotten.
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>>133606826
I was agreeing with Touma until his optimism went a bit too far. I mean, it's fine if he wants to believe Othinus is kind, he's the one who spent an eternity with her, but saying all magic gods do things out of kindness was retarded.
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>>133606083
This is amazing
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>>133607244
What happened to Tsuchimikado anyway? Was he sent to a world where incest is acceptable?
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>>133607241
He was being a little too optimistic, but pointing out that someone almost all powerful could have strong armed him into doing things but instead tried to convince him with rewards isn't wrong.
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>>133607272
Kamisato acted like he was only temporarily silenced, so he's probably knocked out somewhere or he's a lying faggot and he's actually dead/perfectly fine.
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>>133606826
Saving people is always the right choice, for Touma it has always been like that
He doesn't care about morality or affiliations. If a cute girl needs help or a punch in the face he will do it.
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>>133607198
I never denied any of this. I'm saying he made a choice to save her and allow that influence and it was a huge mistake on his part and he will have to pay dearly for it
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>>133607485
Not him, but I'm with Katze on this one. Othinus did a bunch of bad stuff but if Touma wants to try and turn her into a good person I can only see it as an admirable thing to do.
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>>133607462
I also never denied it was the right thing to do from Touma's point of view. But Touma's point of view is not always correct itself
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>>133607485
The moment he had to understand her to save his own skin made it so that she was as irreplaceable to him as index. For him to not make the decision to save her would be entirely out of character. He understood her, and she needed saving, so he had to save her. It's pretty archetypal of Touma. To not save her would be a mistake and betrayal of his very character.
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>>133602001
>Hurr durr i am going to kill all the gods cause they gave me an harem i did not want
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>>133607527
Just because something has good intentions does not mean it's correct or won't warp into so,trying incorrect.
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>>133607339
Taking out Tsuchimikado is quite a feat if you think about it. A shame, cause i was pretty hyped to see him again while reading it.
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>>133607650
He probably just sent him a winning ticket for imotouland.
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>>133607650
>Implying Kamisato didn't just kidnap his sister
There are a couple ways to take out Tsuchimikado without worrying too much
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>>133607582
Just because it would be unusual to do or even a hard choice to make doesn't make it incorrect
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>>133607624
He's trying to make someone into something good without harming anyone else, I can't see the action itself being bad. It's not like he has to sacrifice anyone to make Othinus good. So even if she goes "Haha I was only pretending to be good all along" Touma trying can't be incorrect.
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So I watched both Railgun seasons and enjoyed them, now I'm 7 episodes in Index and I'm losing interest, can I expect some improvements or does it stay like this?
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>>133607718
If that "Haha I was only pretending" comes with her harming others, then yes, Touma trying is a bad thing.
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>>133607667
>Tsuchimikado on berserk mode while Touma ensures the safety of his sister
Scratch the Touma punches Kamisatos harem, I wanna see Tsuchimikado on a rampage again.
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>>133607762
Hang on until Index s2, it picks up there
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>>133607763
You seem to be confusing the ends with the means.
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So basically, Kamisato just needs to have some confidence in himself.
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>>133607812
Or at the very least try to get some evidence. He has nothing but speculations and his crippling self doubt as it is.
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>>133607704
I think you're the one who is wrong here. Besides, Touma is the IB. Everything he does with his fist is correct, because it's the natural state of the world.
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>>133607808
You seem to be thinking my opinion will change due to anything other than the actual canon proving me wrong (which it might, who knows)
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>>133607798
Thanks anon.
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>>133607867
See >>133607871

And I'm not buying Touma is always correct because IB either
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>>133607762
Well, angel fall and Aureolous are two of the worst arcs and the Sisters Arc is a lot better in Railgun. So you're probably gonna be bored for the most part.
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>>133607915
>I'm going to stubbornly insist that I am infact correct
>And if the canon proves me wrong, it doesn't matter because the characters are known to be full of shit

Whatever, shitposter. Stay salty
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>>133607871
I don't care how it turns out in the volume, it's the principle of the "Good Samaritan Law". If you're trying to help someone then even if the end result isn't great the action of trying to help wasn't itself wrong.

If someone is begging for change and you give them some food, just because they run off and go "Sucker I'm actually fine thanks for the free food" that doesn't mean the act of trying to help the needy itself was wrong, the only wrong act was committed by the fraudster not you.
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Nigga's acting like kamisato wants to murder a bunch of civilians or some shit.

He's doing justice killing these magic gods who might do some reckless shit again like in the last volume in the future.
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>>133607965
No if the canon proves me wrong, then I am wrong. Simple as that. And I think you're the one getting angry here. I'm not the least bit upset that I could be wrong or that you have a different opinion than me.
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>>133608021
#MagicGodLivesMatter
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I'm really enjoying NT14 so far, lot of interesting things brought up. Maybe it will make up for the shit that was NT13.
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>>133608021
Fuck you, Kamisato. They're doing it out of kindness.
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>>133608036
I dunno, adamance until something strikes you in the face strikes me as salty.
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>>133607762
>watching the anime
>being a secondary
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>>133607997
I think Othinus turning out to be evil, or the very act of Touma saving her turns out to have been a bad thing, would be considerably more trouble than someone making off with free food
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>>133608021
>not wanting an harem
>wanting to be nothing
Literally worse than Shinji.
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>>133608021
This.

Touma's house is fucked because of their kind.
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>>133608093
The size of the consequenes doesn't change the point. It's like that one commercial about watching the road so you don't hit pedestrians, but the amusing twist was that the pedestrian was hitler and it joked that the driver had thus messed up. Trying not to run over a pedestrian doesn't become a "wrong" action because that person turned out to be bad. Use your head.
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>>133608118
I don't care about his reasons since taking out these retards will benefit everyone regardless.

He's doing nothing wrong.
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>>133608090
Most people would have dropped index if they had to invest time reading the first 10 volumes.
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>>133608021
The gods have done nothing at all for a long ass time. It is only because HP was a touma fanboy that he did what he did. Thier goal was to do what it takes to keep from fucking up the world.
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>>133608204
Can confirm, I only stuck to reading the first 13 volumes because I knew volume 13 was where it got good and I didn't want to miss some lore, it was honestly a bit of a chore before that point and I would skip it given the chance later.
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I think we will get the fight today.
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>>133607948
Other anon said that S2 picks up, so I'll try to mindlessly binge S1.

>>133608090
I prefer anime as a medium and if I'll end up liking the anime, then I'll check the source material, what a filthy thing to do, right?
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>>133608204
Out of what the anime adapted, I thought only the sequence of volumes 9, 10 and 11 made me feel like dropping it due to how boring they were. Sure knowing it would get better after that helped, but I probably would be fine.
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>>133608264
Same here, there isn't that much to know from the first 13 volumes anyway.
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>>133608224
>Trying to justify their recklessness

They're too powerful to be left alone and 2 of them even stirred up shit already.
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>>133608419
>They're too powerful to be left alone
Good lord what shitty logic. Just because someone can fuck you up doesn't mean you should try to kill them on the off chance they might.
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Can you crack your neck, /a/?
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>>133608457
Nope
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>>133608457
Yes.
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>>133608451
Isn't that logic from others what drove Accelerator to participate in the Sisters experiment
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>>133608451
>Kill them
They're not.
They live in the x dimension, but not dead.
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>>133608457
Yes
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>>133608530
Anon, they're as good as dead
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>>133608457
Yeah.
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>>133608451
>Just because someone can fuck you up doesn't mean you should try to kill them on the off chance they might

Yeah if it was just me but if said guy could fuck up the entire world with no effort just by being pissed off then i see no reason why not to.
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>>133608530
I wonder if World Rejector came with a manual for Kamisato to know exactly what it does
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>>133608530
You're assuming that. Who's to say they're not dead, no one's ever come back.
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>>133608548
Point is they're not dead.
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If IB doesn't kills Magic Gods why WR should?
They wanted a Touma's back up not the Antichrist.
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>>133608564
So I guess all the world leaders should be killed en masse? They could spark wars that could kill lots of people after all, sure we trust them not to do something that dumb normally, but it's possible we want to be sure don't we?
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>>133608457

More interested in trying to click my fingers properly with my left hand since I can do it with my right. What is this bullshit.
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>>133608615
Maybe a full-powered IB would be able to smite gods just like WR.
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>>133608615
They wanted something that could keep their power in check and accidentally made something that could. It is still silly that he can run through them though. Doesn't he still need to touch them? Touma has trouble touching normal magicians and he has fucking precog. Hell They could have thrown random objects at him considering how strong HP was.
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>>133608712

Probably would and erase their magic stats etc permanently. Though still doubt kill, unless dragons are that whacky.
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>>133608224
>The gods have done nothing at all for a long ass time.
>Implying:
>The world will suddenly end one day.
>The world will be destroyed all on its own if left alone.
>The world will roll down the hill to destruction if it is simply left to the ravages of time. The world has only lasted to this day and this >moment because a great many people are desperately holding that giant snowball up and keeping it from rolling down.
>That is why the end will come suddenly.
>Through the ages and eons, the world has fallen ill and been in accidents. And one day, it will be tormented by its own lifespan.
>The world will not be destroyed because something special happens.
>The world is only being maintained because something special is happening.
>In that case, it would only be natural to run across such an ending from time to time.
Kamisato killed the worlds reserve of kindness.
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>>133608800
Basically Kamisato is bringing them all on mass suicide just cause he does not want someone being in love with him.
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>>133608800

Luckily Touma has the remaining kindness, but he won't let it go. Mans a meth kindness addict.
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>>133608861
Othinus is a hell of a drug
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>>133608921
He needs that kindness to keep on going
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>heavy object is tanking in sales
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>>133608800
>what is Gaia
>what is causality
>what is YHVH
/what's is The Almighty from vol.4
>what is System
>what is the Pure World
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>>133608921
>hey kids, wanna buy some magic gods?
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>>133609007
Maybe they'll do a S3 now
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>>133609007
The blame legitimately goes Miki for that announcement dick move.
I'm Nico stream site during the first episodes one can feel the salt from the nips.

10th anniversary was a mistake.
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>>133609045
I'll take three
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>>133609014
No for real, what is the Pure World, I'm pretty sure it was just the world before phase shenanigans happened.
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>>133609007
Maybe it wouldn't be if all the volumes weren't just random shit happening and then back to the state after destroying their second object.

I hope Kamachi ain't gonna pull Qwenthur out of the prison too easily and make Heivia totally ok with him resetting everything back to after Volume 1.
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>>133609071
>yfw index last boss is Miki
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Who #TeamSato here?
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>>133608619
We need them unlike magic gods.
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>>133609302
Fuck off Ellen. He doesn't even wants you around.
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>>133609331
>We need leaders
>We don't need Magic Gods
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>>133609302
I'm more on Kamisato's side than Touma's.
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>>133609080

Careful man, you might take a trip that will feel like an eternity of torture.
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>>133609345
which only proves how much of a fag he is
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>>133609369
Othinusfags don't care what she did and actively ignore it. Just that she's hot and can be used to shit on other shippers and waifufags.
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>>133609369
But it would smell godly.
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>>133609369
It's cool man, I know how to ration them I've seen what happens to guy who try to take more than one at a time, some fucked up shit man.
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>>133609433
>if I keep repeating this in every thread maybe it will become true
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>>133609369
But think of the aftereffects
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>>133609482
But it is true even if it's not repeated
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>>133609302
Me.

Too much attention must suck desu
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>>133608457
I do it all the time. I can crack pretty much every joint in my body at will.
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>>133609512
Sure thing.
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>>133609331
>We need them
>We don´t need people whos job is to make us happy.
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>>133609512
>Implying Othinus isn't kind
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Othinus too skinny desu senpai
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>>133609365
This.
Who is to say Touma wasn't pulling sophism on his convenience like be himself admitted always does.
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>>133609576
All Raildex girls are skinny as fuck.
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>>133609576
She is/was just the right size
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>>133609574
>implying you aren't a shitty meme poster
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>>133609014
>what is the Pure World
Ask the Magic gods they know.
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>>133609624
>Implying we aren't both
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>>133609639
If only they weren't dead then
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>>133609614
Kanzaki and that blonde chick who beat up tsuchimikado are pretty thick desu
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>>133609433
It's funny because I see far more Mikotofags starting shit and hating on other girls all the time.
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>>133609613
Ssh, don't use logic. It'll trigger Toumafags and Othinus apologists.
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>>133609624
Doesn´t make the truth untrue.
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>>133609132
>spoiler
Volume 10 happened in April and 9 was in May, so we already know that they're back in action by the next month.
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>>133609655
All waifushit and shipfagging is cancerous but Othinusfags take the cake because they are currently the most vocal. But Mikotofags that ship aren't better
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>>133609652
Then ask Othinius.
>“The man who names himself the Silver Star seems to have been attempting to directly
>tamper with the ‘pure world’ beyond all the filters…that is, the world of science that is unaffected by religion.
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Who here thinks NT14 ISN'T very interesting? Show of hands.

o/

It doesn't help that Haimura's art seems very uninspired this time around, even with the girls.
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>The threads are just now kindness meth dens

Fuck it, I will take some of this kindness. I want to smell like the rest of you. Sick of being a square.
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>>133609623
How is she shaving her pussy when shes only 15cm?
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>>133609737
>o/
Erase yourself
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>>133609737
I would have agreed until shit started getting real with the last translations
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>>133609737

I found the start interesting though got bored when Kamifag harem stuff came in. Still assuming rest of it gets good.
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>>133609715
It's not just about being vocal. That sounds like you are just upset people are liking what you don't like.

Mikotofags deliberately go out of their way to start shit with cancerous waifuwars and pretend to be retarded afterwards to deflect the blame.
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>>133609654
Not on Haimura's watch.
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>>133609715
>being vocal = being bad
They're just the most numerous. Usually nothing even happens with them besides talking about how the new novel is cute until someone else stirs shit up anyways, they could be a lot worse.
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>>133609613
Because do you think that kamisato derves the unhappyness he lives.
Kamisato realy did not ask this question.If he decides the outcome before anything really happens that´s called ignorants.
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>>133609433
>>133609655
>>133609715
>>133609783
>>133609827
>lets go meta with shipperfag discussion
Can you not?
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>>133609783
They are all cancer. Yes, all of them, not "everyone except muh grill", A L L of them. I'm just saying Othinusfags take the cake at the moment.
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>>133609757

Magic?
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>>133609850
>Can't talk about more than one thing at a time
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>>133609684
But what if the year is different?
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>>133609866
Take your false flagging nonsense to the Yahari thread (if there is one), you fucking faggot. This thread hasn't even hit 180 posts.
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>>133609827
Except their "this is cute!!!!" comes with a side order of "this is also proof your grill a shit" which starts the shipping cancer from the others. you're all shit
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>>133609934
Not that kind of multiple things at once, I was telling the guys talking about Yahari to fuck off as well, this on the other hand is tangentially on topic.
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>>133609850

I miss Komoe. OH god I just realized how fucked Touma is for school.
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>>133609960
I think you're reading too far into comments like "proof x is best girl" if you think that's true.
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>>133609856
Except no. Even when the novel has high focus on Othinus, Mikotofags still manage to be the most cancerous forcing their girl when there's nothing to talk about about her while shitting on the others.

See the thread four days ago for example.
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>>133609987
Can't wait to see again Touma's arch-nemesis - homework.
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>>133607812
>Kamisato just needs to have some Guts
FTFY
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Friendly reminder to ignore and report Mugino.
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>>133609960
>seeing things that aren't there
>this is how Mikotofags justify their shitposting

Sad.
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>>133610041
Every last one of you is cancer, Othinusfags and Mikotofags included. You got that? Good. Now fuck off.
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>>133610092
>my fanbase is being panned for being cancer
>I better bring others down to my level to make myself feel better about it

It doesn't work that way.
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>>133610092
>The guy who constantly tries to steer on topic conversation into conversation about how they're cancer and need to fuck off isn't the true cancer
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>>133610083
I've said multiple times Mikotofags are cancer too so you're kinda proving my point by accusing me of being something I'm not
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>>133609987

The kid isn't graduating unless Crowley gives a freebie by influencing the school.

I have a terrible itching feeling that the series is going to end with a full reset and Touma will actually live a normal life for once.
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>>133610074
When do we get some oldclass gunha?
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>>133610134
Pray tell me oh wise one what is "my fan base"
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>>133610151
You're way too transparent, son.
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>>133610163
>It is part of the Keikaku to keep bailing him out
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>tfw no qt god waifu
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>mfw kamachi brings back the magic gods later through some bs
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>>133610170
After his clone.
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This obsession with a certain body of waifufags is reminding me of that loser spamming THK. Only now it's taking the ball and running in the opposite direction.

When exactly did Raildex threads become Fate threads? When NT started?
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>>133610219

Touma would be in deep shit if that happens. They all come back and there is Touma surrounded. Probably lots of crazy ones who will try to grab him.
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New Accelerator manga chapter when?
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>>133610219
>some bs
>When it´s about Gods
Sure anon.They will come back.For them it´s probably just holyday.
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>>133610203
>no one can genuinely hate all shipping and waifufagging
>everyone must have a sekrit waifu/ship
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>>133610224
That's just his straight man I'm pretty sure
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Wonder how Kamisato would try to justify himself if he met Hamazura
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So how do you think this volume will end and what do you think NT15 will be about
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>>133610249
>They all kill each other while Touma breaks down

I can see it happening.
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>>133610318
He'd say Hamazura clearly isn't a normal highschool boy or something, it's more about his self confidence so I think he can admit there are amazing people out there, he just isn't one of them.
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>>133610336
Accel volume like OT15
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>The Aeons of Isis, Osiris, and Horus.
>When was it that the man who divided the world’s chronology into those eras had crossed the sea and arrived in the desert?
>When was it that he had experimented in summoning a great demon no one had ever heard of?
>However, there was a certain brown goddess who would appear where she pleased, identify with people as she pleased, and weep for them as she pleased. >And for once, she was laughing.
>“Oh, dear. You don’t hear those three names often these days.”
So aleister.
>"That" which writhes at one point in the Sahara
I am ready.
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>>133610367
This would be awesome
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>>133610212

Funnily, it's the most normal problems that give Touma the hardest time.

>Not being able to graduate
>Fear of guns/getting shot
>People who actually know martial arts instead of fist fighting
>"Normal Magicians" such as Acqua of the Back
>Trouble navigating in foreign countries
>Keeping stomach full

The boy shits on everything else, but normal issues are his bane.
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>>133610286
With the way you act you're just a sore Othinus hater. The way you desperately deny the fact Mikotofags are by far the worst fans in these threads, ignoring all reasons given in order to keep your hate propaganda gives you away too easily.
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>>133610301
No.
>"Sogiita Gunha - first try. At this stage, I had a very poor grasp of his character, and it shows. After it became clear I had to draw a >second version, I asked Kamachi-san various things about Sogiita's character. What I got from him was "guts" and "Less of an urban >delinquent and more of a rural delinquent". With that in mind, I made the second version below.
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>>133610367
Can we wrap up all of Kamisato's bs in one chapter? I wouldn't be too surprised if it spilled into the next volume, especially if Touma does lose his POV like the spoilers say
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>>133610286
>>133610412
Christ
Go find a room you two
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>>133610409
Don't forget not having his window fixed and freezing to death.
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>>133609830
English motherfucker do you know it?
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Are Kamisato and kamijou just the Arcetype Hero?
And that´s why IB and WR gathered around them.
Probably also the reason why gunhas power has so much potential.
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>>133610430
Ah alright, I never read the comments on it before where'd you grab those?
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>>133610437
Maybe we will get Accelerator vs Kamisato? That seems far off but I would have never imagined Mikoto meeting the other magic gods as soon as it happened. Kamachi could make it happen
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>>133610516
Touma wasn't affected by the archetype fuckery of NT7 though so I think even if he acts like one he's outside of it. Especially after he fought the whole world for a villain who destroyed the world.
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>>133609737
Still better than NT12 and 13. And it's paying off.
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>>133610525
Js06 translated them.
Can see it on the Wiki.
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>>133610559
And NT11.
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>>133610535

A Vs Hamazura development would be nice. He'd be like "Tits or GTFO" with harem arguments.
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>>133610367
Wait, did Accelerator make a cameo in NT13? Lots of other characters did, but I don't think he was there. What if he wasn't even in the city at the time?
Maybe that "back to England" arc Kamachi mentioned once is going to be about Accel fucking with the magic side while Laura keikakus ominously in the background and gives us a few glimpses of her agenda.
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>>133610602
Now that you mention it, why not both?
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>>133610535
Accelerator vs Kamisato would be over too quick to be interesting, also Accelerator doesn't give enough of a shit about other people to seriously listen to Kamisato's bitching. I don't know how Kamisato would even approach him in the first place. I mean maybe, but it'd take a lot of work.
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>>133610318
>Implying Hamazura doesn't have a special right hand.

>Raise your hand if you belived a simple Level 0 could defeat a Level 5.
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>>133610657
>Implying a regular highschool boy could help change anything in WW3
Clearly there's more to him than meets the eye
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>>133610634
Well we never got it confirmed that he returned to AC, did we? This would be interesting but unlikely
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>>133610657

Hamazura doesn't need a special power. He's Macgyver.
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>>133610369
Choronzon is Dragons.
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>>133610554
>Touma wasn't affected by the archetype fuckery of NT7
Yea but gunha also wasnt affected.
>He was here for a very simple reason. He had run across the commotion while walking
>through the city. A true hero did not need to be led to the incident like the artificially
>created ones had been.
What does that tell us?
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>>133610286
In my case I don't. I like Itsuwa and Kanzaki but deep in my mind I know they're not winning perhpase Index will.
But I'm not into her.

Why live?
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>>133610634
I don't think Accelerator would be just chilling in Russia with the clone Will hijacked, he was probably just asleep at home when HP went berserk. It's not like he stops everything that goes wrong in AC, the real question is where was Kakine, I'm sure someone must have called out for the White Beetle to save them from the falling glass or something.
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>>133610651
I do agree it'd be one sided no matter who wins. But Accelerator losing by WR would fuck shit up, which could be fun. As well as Kamisato and his harem getting trashed and Aleister laughing. It would need some work but Kamachi is good at that
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>>133610657

Hamazura's right hand is only special in that he masturbates with it.
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>>133610739
Gunha is just the ultimate wildcard, he's even least useful of the level 5's to Crowley's plan. His power is like Ollerus, they're literally incomprehensible.
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>>133610318
>Riajus should just die!!
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>>133610771
I don't think that Accel is going to die until Aleister needs him is the thing. So I don't think him getting hit by WR is likely to happen.
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Can Kamisato exile accelerator electrode?
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isn´t WR basically the Power of Satan/Mara?
It´s tempting people out of the World.
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>>133610844
Him dying before Crowley uses him would be an interesting twist. And his death not being his own design or will is also kind of intestine too.
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>>133610535
Mikoto didn't even get a proper meeting with them.
>Running away from HP
>Trying to pull tsun antics at those 2 girls who tried to take him away from Me
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>>133610922
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>>133610634
Yh i don't think he's there as well. If HP's shit actually messed up the majority of AC i don't think he would let that go by if he was there.
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>>133610922
Accelerator built it after analyzing the old one, so if he can't WR Accel he can't do it to his electrode
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>>133610742
What if he met with Stelle and both teameed up against so kind of magic/science bullshit.
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>>133610799
>Fapping Right Hand
This what trolled you Aleister.
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>>133611123
Kinda hard to do that when Zombie girls arc isn't done in her own manga yet.
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>>133610948
An unexpected Accelerator death could ev used to further humanize Aleiester. Or sort of throw his previous humanization under the bus.

"Damn, that kid's dead. Look at all the shit I let him get put through. He should have never had to think about whether or not to kill those clones. I feel bad." or something similar would kinda fit in with making him seem human.

"Fuck, my vector controlling device is gone, now I gotta get new one. Or switch to plan that doesn't call for one." would also kinda sorta make sense and throw his "humanity" under the bus
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>>133610634
That would be a pretty good volume.
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>>133611192
>different point in the timeline
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>>133611274
Kamachi still at least waits until stuff in the side stories is done before referencing them in the main one is the point.
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>>133611192
Actually that would be awesome. The volume could even address where Estelle was from vol 14 on. Not that it's that much time
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>>133611204
I really can't see the first one happening, Aleister is somewhat human but he's not going to speak aloud about how he regrets killing someone.
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>>133611354
Yeah I think it'd be a bit weird too but the point is a reaction similar to that would further humanize him. I think throwing hose attempts under the bus would be more likely, however. Just pointing out the other option exists
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>>133611410
I think he could do something like it, but it would be expressed differently, like Kihara Doge would ask him if he felt bad about it and he'd give a difficult face or something, he wouldn't just randomly spout apologies.
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>>133611312
He did NT11 and boring daihasesai at the same time.
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>>133611454
I could see that.
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Birdway fight scene when? I need this.
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>>133611204
No way he is killing Accelerator.

That's what Noukan is for, unlike Accelerator, the dog isn't a tool.
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>>133611454
I was also kinda overdramatizing it to get the point across so there's that
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>>133611459
You mean referencing Dolly or whatever it was? I thought that happened in like the last two chapters of Daihai or something? The point is that Zombie is like 10 chapters into her development, so I don't think he's going to throw her into an entire other story arc until she's done at least one arc of her own. If you mean just referencing her existence that happened in Idol Accelerator already and doesn't impact much.
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>>133610409
>The boy shits on everything else, but normal issues are his bane.

You know who else is like that? Aleister. Can deal with magicians, espers, Magic Gods. Who fucks his plans up? Hamazura, the most normal protag.
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>>133611569
>Dolly
>not Misaki
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>>133608781
World Rejector has some range on it, unlike Imagine Breaker. In practice so far, it seems as if it's limited by Kamisato's line of sight, but according to him, he could erase the sun and stars if they fit the criteria needed for being affected by WR.
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>>133611569
Having NT15 be about Estelle and Accelerator would kind of make sense though
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>>133611644
You just meant having Misaki in the story? She's originally from Index so that's obviously no issue. Estelle is a character who was introduced in Scientific Accelerator so there's different hurdles in having her becoming a main character in a novel before she's even had a chance to do anything in her own manga.
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>>133611696
Not if she dies in the manga
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>>133611569
>>133611644
Speaking of Dolly, what the hell happened to her and Mitori?

They disappeared and are nowhere to be seen. I thought Misaki at least would mention what happened to them in NT11, but nope.
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>>133611682
>World Rejector has some range on it, unlike Imagine Breaker.
Only because Touma doesn't know how to use it
Or maybe the Gods were getting tired of Touma not knowing how to use his range so they actually took it away and gave it to Kamisato.
When is Terra becoming a Magic God so we can know
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>>133611682
We should get rid of Kamisato. Anyone who could fuck up the entire world has to be offed.
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>>133611703
Not really? Just have it implied the settle the issue without spoiling. And explain where Estelle has been
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>>133611682
>if they fit the criteria needed for being affected by WR.
They have desires?
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>>133611750
>Anyone who could fuck up the entire world has to be offed.
Hi, Kamisato
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>>133611725
That's a popular and plausable theory but in no way confirmed to happen. If she appears in NT15 or after it would confirm the opposite
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>>133611757
It is though, you cut off several options from the manga writer by putting her in a story later and make assumptions about how it will go, if she'd still be friends with him, alive or the like.
>>133611815
Which is exactly the problem with just tossing her into a story before her own is done, the author might have had a plan in mind for her that wouldn't work like that. Maybe she'll get crippled, lose her magic ability, get a new one and people question why she didn't use it in NT15, it limits the story if they're not the same guy.
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>>133611763
Anything made by someone who has unfulfilled desires fall under WR. That could theoretically include the sun or stars as Kamisato said. We don't know the truth of that yet, but we do know he WRed away Aleister's countermeasures against unwanted people sneaking into Academy City. That's how he and his bitches got in in the first place.
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>>133611899
Wasn't it conflicting desires not unfulfilled desires?
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>>133611924
You're right. Conflicting desires. Rest of the post still stands though.
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>>133611874
Kamachi is the manga writer. He's the one writing everything. He knows what his plans for her are. It's not a matter of balancing two writers ideas.
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>>133611936
But is the sun not science?
It doesn´t have desires.>>133611899
>away Aleister's countermeasures against unwanted people sneaking into Academy City.
That could be the Power of one in the Kamisato faction
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>>133612036
Kamisato literally erased soap bubbles and a telephone pole onscreen, it works on inanimate objects that are built. If the sun counts as being built is a whole other debate.
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>>133608457
Yes. I think it's a bad thing though.
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>>133611991
Kamachi and Arata both I figured, it still limits how he could write it going forward I think and could retroactively make things in the manga make less sense.

I talked as if Kamachi wasn't writing the manga because the quality control on stuff like the esper powers and how likely it is for people to know who Accelerator is seems off for him to be writing it on his own, it's probably like Nagai Space where he gives the overall idea and they run off with it.
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>>133612078
Soap bubbles aren't built. Also the sun is probably too far away.
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>>133599257

>raildex

Is this a newfag thing?
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>>133612166
We don't know what the range is on Kamisato's WR but regardless I think he was talking as if he was closer to it, not that he'd snipe it out from earth.
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>people criticize monogatari series for their deepness because they got distracted by fanservice
>people praise fate/ because lore
>people praise raildex and ignoring fault in their deepness because Touma keep punches women
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>>133611696
We already had so much christmas teasing, it should come soon
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>>133612187
Kamisato deletes your shitty bait, newfag.
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>>133612214
>Still 3 weeks away
Maybe in NT25
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>>133612187
It's frankly amazing how often I see people get this meme wrong
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>>133612163
>it's probably like Nagai Space where he gives the overall idea and they run off with it.
Wasn't this confirmed in a Railgun takonbon? The mangaka was the one who added Gunha to that whole Level 6 shenanigans, for instance. I do think Kamachi is the one with the final say, though, he just doesn't really give much of a shit about the timeline particularly (iirc the anime-original stuff was approved by him/written by him as well)
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>>133612233
Saru Lock would be disappointed.
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>>133612163
Kamachi knows what he's doing. If there IS an idea he has that needs to be explained before putting her in the main story, he'll wait. It's no "problem". If she shows up you can bet he's not cutting himself off.
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>>133612200
Touma hasn't gotten a decent fucking punch since ages. He better be steamrolling through Kamisato's chaining punch combos like nobody's business. Fuck post Othinus fighting style. Fuck Mikoto for telling him not to punch HP. God bless High Priest for telling him to punch some shit though.
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>>133612251
I don't know about Railgun the manga, but yes I was talking about stuff like Silent Party Kamachi was confirmed to make the plots for and hand them over to Nagai to go with. IT didn't say in how much detail he wrote stuff, like I doubt he said "Put Saten in a mecha oh and make sure Mikoto gets her friends involved in the dark side after losing to a metal robot" but I think he made the plans for the arc itself.
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>>133612290
He knows what he's doing for the most part, but I'd rather not have another Railgun SS2, with Mikoto wondering who the hell Lessar is later if it can be avoided.
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>>133611729
Just like Shinobu.
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>>133612292
>punchfags
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>Remember the arc where /g/ was the evil bad guys
>Now remembering Satan knew how to use a mecha

Why the fuck did I remember that OVA bullshit. What the fuck was going through the guys head when he made that shit. OF course it is the same guy who hates Index and prefers moe shit.
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>>133612187
>raildex

>dex

Is this a newfag thing?

You fucking idiot
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>>133612574
Never doubt the Saten.
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>>133612573
High Priest meta is too much for me. I just want to see that punch.
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>>133612617
Once again

>punchfags
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>>133612574
Don't forget Mikoto asking her Level 0 friends to help her fight the bad guys
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>>133612643
What's wrong with wanting to see a normal high school boy punch people?
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>>133612664
Speaking of, Hamazura and his Ninja friend spin-off when?
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>>133612643
What's the problem with it?
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>>133612292
>he want a cute girl
>he just wanted se Touma punching people
>he just wanted to be noticed
>he just wanted be told how to live his life correctly
>mfw High Priest was like us /a/nons

Now I hate Mikoto.
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>>133612664
>baaaaaw baaaaaaw I didn't get muh punch
>his arm would have grown back, a guy with already serious trauma getting hurt again doesn't matter
>baaaaaaaw baaaaaaw
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>>133612726
>he want a cute girl
When?
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>>133612726
>he wasn't a cute girl
FTFY

>>133612750
So much butt hurt anon, do you hate fun?
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>>133612750
He has a million of other occasions to punch him that might've not blown his arm off. And honestly who doesn't want to see Touma suffering more?
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>>133612750
>>his arm would have grown back,
The rest of his body is fucked though if he even lives.
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>>133612687
Hanzou or the chick? I can't see Hanzou being important any time soon but I'd welcome it.
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>>133612750
Anon stop being childish.
The other anon just wanted to see Toumas signature Move.
Nothing wrong with that.
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>>133612810
> And honestly who doesn't want to see Touma suffering more?
Me
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>>133612750
It's funny because the start of this volume has already shown that not punching HP and trying to understand him was a mistake. So you're just being a faggot.
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>>133612810
>He has a million of other occasions to punch him that might've not blown his arm off.
And Mikoto never prevented any of them, just the one that would blow his arm off.
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>>133612824
Who cares about that though? Gimme muh punch!
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>NT12 people complaining about things would be different if touma had been there
>NT13 punchfag
>NT14 alt touma if who uses his assets hates the life his right hand had given him, and is willing to kill

What meta enemy is next?
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>>133612842
You want to pretect his smile?
You´re quite late.
>>133612830
There is still the whole Ninja plot line.
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>>133612868

This nigga knows what is up. Dragons would have sorted it all out.
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>>133612862
Mikoto wasn't even the main point. Are you a Mikotofag?
She actually did, as said by HP
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>>133612892
But he's smiling like never before. Did you read chapter 1?
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>>133612872
Shippers
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>>133612901
I'm fairly sure he was being sarcastic though.
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how would Kamisato have reacted to Omega world?
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>mfw Nepthys is getting more character development in this novel than Mikoto I'm NT13
Is this intentional?
She is going to die isn't she?
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>>133612892
>You want to pretect his smile

The man was genuinely smiling this LN, you miss the parts with Othinus?
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>>133612933
I don't think /a/ would be able to handle it. Also that's somewhat related to this volume
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>>133612933
>a fujo girl who keeps shipping the delta force
>touma must fight his dignity crumbling with the girls
>tries to do it by fighting aogami
>loses
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>>133612824
>Touma's body completely burns to ashes
>Only his right hand regenerate
>Since IB is not just attached to his hand, but more to his mind, his consciousness is brought back from death
>Touma is just an arm now
>Fukou da

At least that whole arm is protected by IB.
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>>133612939
>Fucking Magic Gods thinking that a fake world is worth anything. Stop warping my friends minds to make them think they're happy
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>>133612943
>She is going to die isn't she

Yep
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>>133612943
Yes, and Patricia is to blame.
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>>133612939
Something like
>this is perfect! I can have a normal life here!
>Othinus: now kill yourself
>Othinus and perfect world gets offed
That or she gets offed before she could ever pull her bullshit
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>>133612970
>fighting
>stopping fujos in any way
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>>133612967
If Kamachi mocked shippers and essentially said "every one of you are faggots" most of /a/ would shit themselves in retardation while I'd be going "he's right you know"
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>>133613032
That's the thing, it fuels her more. But Touma doesn't get that
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>>133612943
No they are showing parts of Aleisters past.
Till now the Magic gods were quite nice to Aleister.
BTW can´t wait for Othinus between the line.
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>>133612943
Is this the fate of any female character with more development than biribiri?
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>>133613034
If Kamachi openly mocked shippers he'd lose a large portion of his fanbase. Not only that, unlike the constant "when will Touma use a gun" type of things the volumes have been addressing, Kamachi is actively responsible for a lot of the shippers existence.
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>>133613034
It would go over a lot of people's heads. Of course a special enlightened individual like you would pick up on it immediately though.
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>>133613022
>Anything granted by Magic Gods
>Perfect
Kamisato would hate it, he wants something untainted by them. Maybe if they just sent him to the first world before phase changes.
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>>133613092
I'd be okay with shippers fucking off especially if they are so thin skinned that Kamachi mocked them turns them against him.
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>>133612910
>Are you a Mikotofag?
Well, denying that would just mean more shitposting. Some other post was the typical 'fuck Mikoto, I wanted that punch', so I stepped in to defend her. Also

>Implying HP wasn't full of shit
As said by Touma.
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>>133612989
>implying IB isn't attached to the arm because it's Touma the one wielding it.
>>
So I was going to the flower shop the other day to get some flowers for my imouto, and there was this guy who looked like a high school student walking that way. I opened the door for him to be polite, which caused him to just stop and get a weird look in his eyes. Then he suddenly started yelling and making dramatic gestures. Something about "magic gods" and me being poisoned. I decided to just go inside and move away from this scene.

I occasionally looked outside while picking out my arrangement, and he just kept going, acting out his one-man stage play. When I got to the check out, I noticed a girl wearing what seemed to be a lab coat that was too big for her walking towards the weird guy. The girl didn't pay any mind to his rambling as she approached him with flirtatious motions. Ignoring what had previously transpired, the scenario here seemed to be a young boy attempting to surprise his girlfriend and getting caught in the act.

The boy had returned to a neutral posture as the girl started talking to him, then he turned and spoke back with a deadpan look. Whatever he said evoked a shocked reaction from the girl. Then his lips moved again, still lacking any visible emotion behind them, causing the girl to pause for a moment before switching to an irritated expression. She took a weak jab at his chest, though I couldn't see how her hand was configured, and said one more line. Lip reading is not a talent of mine, but I managed to pick up the word "baka" somewhere in there. Then they walked away together.

On my way home, there was the sound of a loud crash, and it caused a big commotion. Apparently a wind turbine had mysteriously collapsed.
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>>133613134
Of course you're fine with it, but Kamachi still wants to sell volumes believe it or not. And there's no way he isn't egging them on with the shit he pulls with Mikoto and things like Othinus and Touma's shopping trip this volume, it's hardly accidental.
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>>133613167
>Implying HP wasn't a nice guy who Touma could have understood if he fought him normally
As also said by Touma, stop cherrypicking.
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>>133613130
>he wants something untainted by them
Impossible.Even if they do nothing something change.
They are basically the gears of the world.
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>>133613197
But Kamachi pretty much killed the Kamikoto sink in NT13.
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>>133613253
>killed the Kamikoto ship*
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>>133613250
Why do you think Kamisato is killing them all?
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>>133613197
Implying he still wouldn't sell plenty of volumes without swelling his fanbase with thin skinned shipperfags that couldn't even deal with being mocked. I doubt Kamchi meant for the shipping to be as retarded as it is
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>>133613253
He didn't though?
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How did that thing not ended yet, is this Naruto of light novels?
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>>133613317
>I doubt Kamchi meant for the shipping to be as retarded as it is

Nobody fucking ever does, but it just happens.
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>>133613297
He holds a grudge?
He will regret that.
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>>133613336
He did. The afterword was the last nail on the coffin.

As if it wasn't unlikely enough already.
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>>133613253
I have to agree. I think Kamachi has killed every ship except Index and even with Index you could say they aren't romantic and be right. But shippers are so retarded they refuse to see it
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>>133613317
None of us can say how exactly Kamachi wanted the shipping scene to pan out, but he's still the one who wrote all the teasing interactions between him and the cast of girls. It's obviously done on purpose to some extent.
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>>133613350

I wonder if you are the same anon.
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>>133613376
>But given Mikoto’s nature, I want her to keep at it from head on. I want her to keep
running after Kamijou’s back no matter how hopeless or reckless it seems.
This doesn't feel like killing a ship as much as it does keeping the status quo like he always does after pretending she will develop.
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>>133612939
In Sargasso
>O: I got Gungnir!
>gets it rejected by WR
Alpha World
>K: Ha-ha nope

Beta World
>K: I'm more normal than that.

Omega World
>K: XD

Othinus would end mind broken instead.
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>>133613350
It kinda is.
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>>133613443
It kills the hopes of anyone who wanted actual development between the two.
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>>133613366
He holds a grudge but he also wants a normal life that isn't affected by the magic gods, so nothing granted to him by them would make him happy. The main reason he's upset after all is that he thinks the magic gods gave him his harem and they dont actually like him.
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>>133613461
And kinda isn´t.
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>>133613386
>>133613386
Even Index Touma relationship has more gender awareness Mikoto will never reacch.
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>>133613484
It could also be interpreted as a hint Mikoto will never actually catch up
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>>133613443
It is if Mikoto never gets in the same wave as Touma.
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>>133613484
It's not killing their hopes or straight up insulting them like he's hinted at with people asking for Touma to use weapons or the like this volume. What's he's doing is stringing them along which is entirely different. It would be like if in Touma and Othinus' conversation about powers instead of saying that he increases his ability to cut people off she said it only helped him lower the number of victims by giving up on the other dude. Or something, it would hint that maybe one day Touma would get to a point where he goes Kerry and saves lots of people instead of everyone. But he didn't.
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>>133613443
Why do you think the amount of Kamikoto has drastically decreased on Pixiv since NT13?
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>>133613506
>The main reason he's upset after all is that he thinks the magic gods gave him his harem and they dont actually like him.
So he is angry because the gods gifted him?
Most people have the opposite as a Problem.
I
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>>133613651
>They probably thought it was a small thank you, a bit of an extra reward. That’s all. That’s all? That’s all it took to twist people’s thoughts and emotions to your will!?
Yes that's exactly his problem, did you not read the volume?
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>>133613605
Shippers will always keep existing through fanart and doujins (which have decreased drastically as well), but shippers that keep up with the novels and actually hope for something to happen in canon is another matter altogether, and they're the shippers I'm talking about.
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>Othinus is kill
>Touma is depressed and despairs but doesn't completely lose his shit, no demon lord, Ollerus a shit
>Mikoto confesses, gets rejected, is fine with it after a short bout if depression
>Touma never remembers Misaki and she never does anything relevant

You can all get fucked. Make it happen, Kamachi
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>>133613692
I did but i still can´t understand how he can say that if that´s not what gods basically do.
In every religion.
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>>133613752
Mikoto getting rejected and getting over it isn't he problem.

It's her fans that would turn her in the next Sakura Haruno with their butt hurt.
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>>133613752
>>Mikoto confesses, gets rejected
Considering last novel, this is highly unlikely.
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>>133613752
But where is my fucking punch

KAMACHIIIIIIII
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>>133613752
>Killing characters and letting it have zero impact on the story
Come on anon, that's not how writing works. Even HP is making Touma rethink things through his death, if you think after going through all the shit we had in NT9-10 killing Othinus and having Touma not even react is a good move?
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>>133613839
She wont even confess to begin with.
It would be out of character like her understanding what is magic.
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>>133613816
He's atheist or an idiot, it's not hard. The character straight up told you his motivations this shouldn't be easy to misunderstand.
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>>133613651
I don't know about you, but I'm the kind of guy who relishes what he took with his own two hands. For example, if you wanted to give me money, I would first ask if there's no one else who might need it more, then ask how should I earn it before I accept it.

Kamisato wants to value the things he reached out to. I understand his disgust with "easy mode".
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>>133613851
In that scenario there isn't "zero reaction" it's just not "DEMON LORD CAUSE MUH WAIFU" shit
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>>133613838
SakuraXSasuke is the most popular ship. If you're going to bait, at least make it believable.
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>>133613752
>Touma is depressed and despairs

Yeah I like the suffering.
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>>133613902
>For example, if you wanted to give me money, I would first ask if there's no one else who might need it more, then ask how should I earn it before I accept it.
This is way past having an aversion to using cheat codes, if you see a 20$ on the ground do you also leave it there because it's too easy? Good lord.
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>>133613962

Not the same anon, but yeah I would leave it there. Too prideful to pick money of the floor if it isn't mine originally.
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>>133613917
It might as well be, having a page or two of him being upset and then just moving on with the story is no reason to kill a character, you have to have a good reason for it, even Terra was killed because he would have revealed information about IB and to paint Aqcua as strong and no nonsense. There's is nothing to gain from killing Othinus as she is now besides altering Touma's character in some manner, if she were still in Magic God mode at the very least you could have her job, but you want it to happen just because you don't like her which is the height of stupidity.

I don't like Index but you don't see me hoping she falls off a cliff with no impact, I'd like her out of the story but I want her to fucking do something first.
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>>133613920
>implying the most butthurt fans aren't Narusaku
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This LN is so mind-numbingly slow. Picked it up recently and now I'm losing the will to go on at v20. Can I just skip to a volume that isn't faggot of the right and Touma getting harassed by his harem of vapid fucks yet again? Or is that all there is to see beyond this point?
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>>133614099

Gets dope once you hit WW3. Keep going.
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>>133613962
First I would check if anyone dropped that $20.
If no one claims it and I don't have any immediate debts to anyone, I'd go use it to make someone's else day better, like paying for their groceries if they happen to be next to me in the line.
If it never gets the chance to use it for the rest of the day, it stays in the wallet for tomorrow.
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>>133614099
If by some miracle you don't like WW3 there's honestly nothing n the series for you.
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>>133614130
Volume 20 is WW3 anon
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>>133614175

Well that case drop it and leave forever.
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>>133614064
>Touma is only sad for a little while about Othinus's death because he realizes he still has Index to live for

Have some extra butthurt anon
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>>133614135
>>133614042
There's a limit to moralfagging. If it's not hurting anyone and it could improve your mood just go for it.
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>>133613902
I can see your point, but I can't relate to it. If someone gave me anything I'd just ask "Why?" and depending on the answer I'd decide to accept or not. He's the one giving things away anyway
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>>133614219
I'm just making sure you know what an idiot you're being. I'm fully aware that Index is the title character and that either her, Mikoto or no one is winning. I'm not delusional, I'm just not an idiot who thinks Kamachi should write characters out of the story for no reason at all.
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>>133614219
>Index becomes relevant

What butthurt? You just made me impressed.
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>>133614299
Ssshh. Calm down. Nothing has actually happened to your fairy. It's all fake. No need to get defensive. Looks like I designed the maximum asspain scenario well
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>>133614370
Was talking to other anon raving about Othinus dying
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>>133614245
I'll take the money that falls on my lap, but fortune that comes to me quickly should go to someone else just as quickly. My paycheck, now that's a different matter.

>>133614255
That's also fine. I'm not here to persuade you to be less selfish; the thrill of life is knowing what you personally chose.
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>>133614452

And?
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>>133614404
Not particularly, you didn't destroy her character properly to be thought of having designed anything well.
>>133614452
It wasn't about her, if you had said the same for Mikoto I would have reacted the same way. Every character in the story has had some purpose, so saying X dies and nothing happens is what's stupid about it, have her get her power back and immediately job to Aleister and then Touma doesn't care, I don't give a shit, the point is that something happens.
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>>133614519
You think Mikoto dying would result in anything other than Sad Touma for a volume or two
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TOP 5 WORST VOLUMES: OT 15, OT 19, NT2, NT4, NT12
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>>133614607
1/5
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>>133614607
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>Only chapter 4 and the epilogue left

Shit thought there was more, guess I am not that invested with this vol.
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>>133613752
>Mikoto confesses, gets rejected
This is something that will never happen.
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>>133614599
Not the act itself anon, I'm saying deaths are usually used a vehicle for something else in the story. For example Aleister would be pretty upset I imagine.
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>>133614607
>not saying 0T15, NT6 and NT8 so people can make Kakine jokes

0/10
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>>133614607
Is NT2 just in there to convince people you're being serious or are there people who actually liked that volume?
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>>133614607
Be more subtle next time.
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>>133614140
>oh Touma I'm yet another irrelevant character! I'm going to force my way into your harem too! Just fuck me already!
>Duh...fooka-do

>K-K-K-K-KWA KWA KWA I WANT TO PROTECT LAST ORDER BUT I'M JUST A SHITTY VILLAIN??? SUCH A FUCKING BOTHER

>I'm Faggot of the right, and my power level is higher than those other guys! Help me gain my Italian mobster name!

>I'm Ham Sandwich and I annoy downers while kidnapping cripples. I'm also a sith lord.

What part of this shitfest is supposed to be enjoyable?
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>>133614915
>I'm Ham Sandwich and I annoy downers while kidnapping cripples. I'm also a sith lord

That is fucking amazing, how are you not finding that enjoyable?
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>>133614720
You do realize part of the butthurt that post was intended to cause was people getting autistically mad over her death not causing a BIG HUGE CHANGE in the story, right? Kind of like you're doing right now. So yes the butthurt post was effective
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>>133614821
I've seen people who like it here, mostly because of Birdway shenanigans.
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>>133614915
I'm not here to tell you how to have fun
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>there are people in this thread who actually think that 15 and 19 aren't some of the worst

Please tell me you're baiting.
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>>133614915
>I'm Ham Sandwich and I annoy downers while kidnapping cripples. I'm also a sith lord.
I feel like rereading WW3
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>>133614683
Somehow I thought chapter 3 would be the last one and the conclusion would come in NT15. Still hyped for it.
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>>133614720
For Touma of course. Accelerator, him too.
Noukan, of course he would.

Others are disposable.
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>>133614994
Is WORST into anal?
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>>133614964
Every death is a chance for the story to do something with it, doing nothing with a character gives you a chance to do something with them later, explicitly killing a character and doing nothing with it is what's stupid no matter who it is because you've now wasted any chance to do anything with them. Not recognizing this basic story telling fact is what makes you a moron.
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>>133614915
>I'm Ham Sandwich and I annoy downers while kidnapping cripples. I'm also a sith lord.
To me it looks like you are enjoying it, specially Hamazura.
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False-flagging aside, what are the best volumes of index?
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>>133615083
Ask Accelerator. He knows, but I don't know whether or not he'll share that information
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>>133615015
Noukan is honestly more disposable than most of the cast as much as I like him.
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>>133615130
What a lucky bastard.
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>>133615117
NT15
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>>133615148
It made Alister lose his shit anon.
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>>133615218
>Believing fake spoilers
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>>133615117
>No more Group
>Still have shitty Item
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>>133615166
Accelerator collecting all the Misakas for awkward and gruff but sincere loving when
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>>133615117
OT3, 8, 13-15, 18-23. NT4-7 9-10 13-14
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>>133615293
It was confirmed, and there is scan for that anon. He expected a miracle for Noukan.
It didn't happen and things went thry his Keikaku said.
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>Tfw Touma will never ever tame his harem
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>>133615405
Nice try but we all know that Aleister is mad because his Keikaku is going too well, where have you been?
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>>133615391
>OT23
I guess Js06 translated it.
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British royale was such a shitty arc.

Only good part was Touma punching carissa.
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>>133615350
Next volume.
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>>133615117
3, 15, 17~22, NT4, NT6~7, NT9.
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>>133615472
Typo, meant 22
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>>133615493
I hope those two appear next volume ;-;
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>>133615449
Re rea the post again idiot, the keikaku was fine but he hoped to be wrong by having a miracle for Noukan.
Being perfect is makingg him lose his humanity, just like Noukan told him right before.
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>>133615491
I thought ritish Halloween was pretty cool and Aqcua vs Knight Leader was ok.
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>>133615117
OT: 12, 15, 22
NT: 9, 10
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>>133615551
It said he wanted to be wrong to prove he wasn't like the Magic Gods and that Noukan's just in cold sleep, not dead. But arguing over it is pointless anyways, we'll get js06's translation today or tomorrow anyways.
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>>133615551
>However
>that miracle didn't happen
>His plan was moving along
>Every part of his plan was perfect
>"Just like those Magic GoooAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"
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Fight scene soon
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>>133615117
OT: 15, 18, 20-22
NT: 4, 9, 13
best overall NT9
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Place your early bets on what NT15 will be about
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>>133615391
>>133615524
>>133615776
>NT4
>Best anything
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>>133615867
Continuation of Kamisato's bullshit
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>>133615608
The first volume for it was fucking shit. Spent 70% of the time in an airplane.
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>>133615867
Someone telling Kamisato to learn to deal with his shit
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>>133615889
>I posted it again!
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>>133615867
Gunha injecting someone with guts
or
Introduction of the first barefoot girl in index
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>>133615927
imo the airplane part was the best of that volume. Don't really like Lessar and her bitches, much less Big Tits from OT 9
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>>133615867
Mikoto's quest for power gets her tied up in magic shenanigans and she gets BTFO.
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>>133616014
Only the scene when he wanted to fuck up the terrorist in the plane was good, the staff there were so retarded it pissed me off.
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>>133615992
?
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>>133615867
Mikoto and Accelerator meeting, Hamazura vs Kamisato, Touma missing confirmed, Hamazura bumps into Accelerator and Mikoto while going to get Item, the gang is off to save the idiot
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>>133615989

Fuck off, NT4 was a half-assed OT 15 with literal whos. Don't try to defend that dog shit volume.
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>>133615867
There won't be another volume.
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>>133616148
Now that would be a twist
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>>133616146
>Implying I need to
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>>133616115
>aiwass
>girl

I doubt it is the kind of thing that reproduces
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>>133616146
The only good parts were the lasts.

The reason why people say it is "good" is because NT3 was a general disappoint with a lots of wasted potential for character development and literal who antagonist.
>>
Saint battle royale when?
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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume14_Chapter_4

It's here!
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>>133616342
Speak for yourself, the whole volume was fun. Seeing more of the Kiharas and the ninjas was cool and it was our first look at Gremlin too.
>>133616402
>Implying I'm not already refreshing that page every 3 minutes
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>>133616402
Jokes on you, I had already checked 20 seconds ago
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>>133616402

Usually the person makes a new thread at this point. So I can easily say you are lying.
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>>133616440
Who said Kiharas weren't? Their clash was in the last parts.

>still better than NT3
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>>133616540
Not just Kagun vs Nessie, I liked Marian against her and Ninja girl getting in over her head, Kihara Enshuu, the whole novel was pretty good. Wasn't that also the novel that explained that Kihara's were basically a naturally occurring phenomenon too or was that later with Noukan.
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>>133616612
>novel that explained that Kihara's were basically a naturally occurring phenomenon
I think it was alluded to at the and by Noukan's assistant. But Noukan is the one who explained it fully.
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>>133616518
Well sometimes it pops up when we're at like 2-300 posts in an existing thread so I often just drop it in there because whatever
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>>133616612
It's people playing favouritism.
Maybe because they're aware that those character will dae away once the rude ends.
The poor comparison with OT15 comes from those fags that can't enjoy it unless there are muh level 5 dickking around.
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>>133616802
Which is a shame, some of the best characters are the side characters, not being able to appreciate them just because you know you won't see them again is a missed opportunity.

Lovecraft cabal's boss a best.
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>>133616890
I remember /a/ being asspained when the Natural Selector didn't came to be the WSJ tournament they wanted with level 5s.
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>>133616940
I have no clue what you're talking about, which volume is Natural Selector
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>>133615117
OT 3, some of the second half, can't remember too well.
NT 7, 9-11, possibly 14
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>>133617020
NT4
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You guys are forgetting something very important. Kamisato threw Touma out of the fucking building and made him endure all his complaining bullshit, but at the end of it all, Touma is still returning to his room with absolutely nothing to eat.
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>>133617186
Ah right because it was an esper tournament. Guess the preview didn't say it was from outside AC then.
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>>133617235
I feel sorry for the Kamijou faction. But seriously, how does Leivinia not carry loads of cash with her. Magic gods are useless too.
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>>133608457
>There are people that don't crack their necks and fingers multiple times a day
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>>133599349
No, that would be when Touma gets defeated by Kamisato, the one who is right about this whole issue.
Idealism is for kids, and it is time for Touma to grown up a little.
Cannot believe he actually said all that garbage to Kamisato with a straight face. We are seeing how shameless and childish Touma truly is in this volume.
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>>133617235
So? Just the usual.
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>>133617346
He'll starve
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>>133615117
OT1-3, 15, SS1 and 2, 15-18, 20-22, Norse Mythology, Index SP (barring Stiyl's chapter)

NT4, 8-10
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>>133617341
Erase yourself, Kamisato
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>>133617341
Touma is a sophistry kung fu master, as long as it is convenient he will use those words.
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>>133617341
Hahaha.
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>>133617383
>implying Crowley wouldn't make it suddenly rain ramen if Touma starving to death becomes too possible
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The less lever 5s are in each volume the more I like them.
Fight me.
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>>133617544
I agree. I still don't like any of them, except Gunha.
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>>133617544
>The less female Level 5s are in each volume the more I like them
ftfy
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>>133617544
Why would I fight against the truth?
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>>133614654
Post the rest
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>>133617714
Nah
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>>133617427
Touma can say whatever he wants, people should just learn to ignore his idiocy and give him the beating he deserves like Hamazura did in NT12 until he learns to live his life correctly.
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>>133617544
True story.
Level 5s are all irrelevant characters, outside of Accelerator.
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>>133617683
I hate what Kamachi did to both Misaki and Mikoto.

>has female characters with shower powers that are cool and strong enough they don't need to be constantly protected

>let's make one into doujin-henati bait with super sad past with MC and she still wants his dick

>let's make the other a bratty teenager in love with super powers

>now let's make them lolrivals

Fuck that
>>
So is aogami pierce actually relevant in any way or is the whole #6 thing a meme?

I'm only on NT6 but I was just curious.
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>>133617999
It's a joke but could turn out to be true
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>>133617999
There's no truth to it yet but even Kamachi seems to be in on the joke as he keeps having Aogami make jokes about things he shouldn't be able to know.
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>>133617844
>Every female Kamachi character ever
Meanwhile the boys are all best bros, but don't get any screentime.
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>>133618142
>Implying
Some of the girls still manage to be good despite it all
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>>133618142
Kongou is a bro and so is Saten
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They're boys in disguise.
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>>133618142
>Came in for the ESP shit and interesting powers
>Stayed for the girls
>The further I god the less I cared about them and started liking side characters
>Now I hate almost all the females except for a select few and just read it for the bros before hoes moments and ocassional crazy shit happening all around
Index in a nutshell
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>>133617544
I ain't even mad.

You're right.
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>>133618283
I came in for bullshit science and now I'm in for bullshit magic while still getting parts of bullshit science like NT7.
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>>133617844
Well they're rivals because Misaki blames Misaka for Dolly's suffering filled existence, and that they just don't have compatible personalities, while she'll fuck with Misaka over her seducing the T, she knows in the end that she can never win him without the help of a miracle
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>>133617544
I like Gunha, Accel and even Kakine Fight me.
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>>133618283
I hate most Raildex girls and those I do like, I hate their most popular ship so liking them is suffering unless I jump on their ship which I won't ever do
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>>133610844
>>133611204
He still has Kakine as backup. You are overestimating Accel's worth.
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>>133618388
>defending shit rivalry to me

I don't care. It's shit.
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>>133618283
>Came for the science bullshit
>Stayed for the science bullshit
It's always been there, there's a few annoying characters but seeing how far Kamachi will go with stuff is always fun. I especially liked that last volume we had spoilers saying that "Kihara Noukan, a cigar toting talking dog gets a magic drill and flies into a comet to kill a Magic God" and you could tell it was true because of just how bullshit it was.
>>133618413
My nigga, the boys are just fine.
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>>133614713
It could easily happen if any of the girls think to simply confess to him first.
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>>133618758
That's the point though, they never will, even Seria who's supposed to be really smart when seeing Touma react to a love letter just acts pissy about it instead of acting on it. Kamachi will never write a girl acting rationally about their feelings to Touma unless they die right after. So something like Mikoto confessing, getting rejected and giving up as the Light Novel goes on as normal is impossible.
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>>133618482
Yeah but it would take more time for Kakine to be useful to Aleister according to Aleister, and even then, Accelerator was still not mature yet.
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Himegami will do it
You hear it here first
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>>133618881
>Kamachi will never write a girl acting rationally about their feelings to Touma unless they die right after
But Index did, and then she became irrelevant as side effect.
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>>133618974
Eh, I'll give you that one, that one was Touma not accepting that he was the same as the person she was confessing to.
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>>133618970
>Himegami
Who?
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I just noticed that even if Touma is safe against WR his clothes aren't Kamisato actually has the dreaded stripping attack, he really is a harem protagonist.
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>>133619042
If the story telling Kamachi is going to where I think, the end will conclude with Touma's acceptance about it.
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>>133619231
Dude, that uniform has more guts than all of us combined
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>>133619231
But can he kill his cellphone?
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>>133619310
His jacket does, but does the guy who made it?
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>>133618881
>acting rationally about their feelings
>feelings
>reason

Does not compute.
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>>133619231
>implying Touma's clothes are made by gutless people
>implying Touma's determination hasn't seeped into all his clothes
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>>133619343
I'll also point out that girls usually don't act on feelings. They'll try to get the guy's attention for a while but if it takes too long for him to do something they'll just move on. Most girls do that at least.
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Toumafag tears soon
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>>133619360
>implying Touma's clothes are made by gutless people
He found them on the trash container m8.
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>>133619534
And it's still going strong even after getting thrown away.
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>>133618881
There are probably several that would. The problem is that he's never in one spot for them to track him down to do that. Seria has the same brain defect as Mitoko which is why neither of them stop convoluted bullshit. The Sisters are actually fairly direct to the point that I'm wondering why one of them didn't win 30 volumes ago. They even told Mikoto exactly what her problem was (not being direct enough) back then too.
Itsuwa is probably capable of outright confessing. She just has strange ideas on courtship rituals.
Misaki is only held back by a miracle and if she figures out Mikoto is going to confess she might try some sort of hail Mary scheme.
Every contestant in the school is only held back by the fact that the rest of the delta force hasn't told him to stop ignoring X's feelings for him already.
TLDR even with what you said in mind there are plenty of girls that could/would confess before Mikoto does.
>>133618933
Kakine got pretty close to copying accel's progress and surpassing him so playing catchup isn't as hard as one would think. He's even preloaded with his own personal loli.
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>>133619581
I bet they were what Gunha was wearing before he had to undergo a transformation sequence.
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>>133619619
The Sisters might be rooting for Mikoto. Itsuwa is in jail, Misaki has literally no chance. There's very few to no girls who are going to confess their feelings rationally to Touma. Himegami is amusingly the closest one like this anon >>133618970 said but she's also invisible.
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>>133619619
>mfw Index confessed only because she is foreigner
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>>133619619
Some Sisters might have a somewhat sweet and innocent crush but I get "hero worship" vibes of the Will. Not romantic feelings.
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>>133619693
>The Sisters might be rooting for Mikoto.
They consider her a complete nonthreat to their plans of romantic conquest over Touma.
Did you forget Russia Misaka thinks she has a better shot to the point that she was looking down upon and pitying Mikoto the entire time in WW3?

>>133619785
They were trying to get him to give them a marriage ring and declared waifu war upon Mikoto while grabbing Touma's arm. They want the T.
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>>133619619
Itsuwa is being constantly fed bad dating advice from the guys in the Amakusa, she's not going to do things rationally either.
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>>133619899
No I remember that they tell her that, but I got the feeling they were saying that to push her to action. If they were seriously gunning for Touma as you said they would have won several volumes ago, so that's how I figured it must be.
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>>133619899
I said "sweet and innocent crush" I could imagine a 5 year old giving a boy they like a ring and telling their 6 year old sister they get to give him the ring, not the sister. That scene does not change the fact the Will's feelings doesn't come off as romantic, just hero worship.
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No one confesses to Touma because they want the guy to actually survive his adventures
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>>133620015
This. Who would purposely death flag the man they love without confirming they have some natural ability to ignore them like Othinus does?
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>>133619959
They've plotted against each other over who gets the T. Eg one attempting a diet to get an edge.
They take it seriously but Touma's schedule is so packed that I don't think they really had the oppurtunity.
>>133619999
Will, maybe. You are forgetting that all of the other sisters are their own person. I was not saying Will herself is in love with him.
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>>133620092
Will is a collection of all their thoughts and feelings. If the Sisters were super duper madly deeply in love with him and it wasn't some cute crush SOME have, she'd be affected too
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>>133620091
Othinus confirmed for just being a really good bro?
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>>133620015
So Index wanted him dead?
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>Girl marries Touma
>now has to babysit a spoiled cat, headcrab, and fairy, along with the shit that comes with dating the T
Only a saint could stand that shit
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>>133620236
To be fair it was a bit of a last resort since he told her to her face "who the hell is index"
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>>133620236
She confessed after the big adventure was over, so it's fine
The fact that she never tried to confess again shows that she doesn't want to risk it now that he's always in adventures
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