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Was Meruem's criticism of humanity valid?
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Was Meruem's criticism of humanity valid?
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>>133520763
Yeah humans can be a little shitty sometimes, what's new?
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>>133520763
Meruem doesn't know shit, he's 1 day old.
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>>133520763
More or less, ultimately he learned things weren't this simple and that he was too idealistic. To be fair his only experience with the human world was best Korea.
At least he was moe.
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>>133520763
>>133520953

Didn't all his worldly experience come from reading books written by humans? and that one village he passed through killing people?
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>>133520953
Madhouse shits ruined his baby face. He was a lot softer in the manga.

Don't think I'll ever forgive them for ruining his design.
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Pretty valid.
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>>133521003
He sure loved reading books.
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>>133521042
Just curious as to why he thought he was above the entire human race when everything he knew was human and his true strength came from human interaction. You'd think from all that reading he did, he'd at least understand that although he was a strong individual the human race could literally shit on him at any moment.
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>>133521003
>>133521042
>>133521178
Weren't the books he read about game theory and strategies?
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>>133521178
I still find it a bit much to believe that neither Meruem and especially Pouf, didn't know about nukes and how dangerous they are.

With how little they thought of them, they should have realized they might get at then with such underhanded means.
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>>133521042
Villains love reading books in this series.
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Killua is cute!
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>>133520763
Yes.
However, it's very hypocritical coming from him, since Chimera Ant society is far worse
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>>133520763
An ant, criticizing humans? Pfft.
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>>133522930
To quote, uhh, Jeff, uhh, Goldblum:
>There are no insect politicians
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Meurem was boring, let's talk about someone who did nothing wrong.
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>>133520763
YEAH but so what, he had to go. Uppity xeno scum
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>>133522141
>implying he missed me heart
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>>133520865
Valid? Is the sky blue, does the sea have salt and do birds fly?

What he gonna do about it? Nothing. He's a weakass ant.
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>>133521572
The more cultured you become, the more of an antagonist you become to society and its rulers. Because you become aware of your shackles, of your self enslavement and who owns the world.
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>>133523985
>killuafags are leprechauns
Explains a lot.
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>>133524129
That female leprechauns have white hair?
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>>133520763
>humanity bad
>must exterminate all humanity !
>human interaction
>Starts to develop relationship and humane attachment :'3
>maybe not so bad?
>Meruem is kill
Christ. Hxh has some of the best antagonists but Meruem was just fucking generic and awful.
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>>133524272
>some of the best antagonists
Of what?
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>>133521039
not really
the rich are hardworking people
the poor are lazy

everything is right
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>>133524272
samefag
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>>133524272
A grand furry arc felt really out of place.
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Baww muh inequality!

Worst villain ever.
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>>133524272
>humanity bad
>must exterminate all humanity !
Literally never happened, we didn't know his opinion on humans until he talked to Netero and by then he already had some contradicting views.
>human interaction
>Starts to develop relationship and humane attachment :'3
>maybe not so bad?
Hardly changed his views, he still believed human society was dysfunctional and that only a small amount of people were truly good.
>Meruem is kill
After learning that things were way worse than he imagined and what he should have focused on was his own personal relationship instead of delusions of grandeur.

>being so retarded that you can't understand a "generic and awful" antagonist
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>>133524515
We went from adventure puzzle game, to tournament shounen, to crime thriller, to trapped in a video game. The whole manga premise is anything can happen.
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Will the Phantom Troupe show up in Dark Continent?
Or will we have to wait 7 years to see them?
Chrollo will never get repowered at this rate
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>>133524272
I bet you think Hisoka and his "I want to fight strong people and test my strength" is an incredibly unique villain right?
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Rank villains

Meruem > Royal Guards > Pariston > Chrollo/Phantom Troupe = Hisoka > Illumi > Bomber
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>>133524761
Bomber because he's the only villain in that list
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>>133524801
They're all villains. Villains don't have to be evil, they could very well be sympathetic and good.
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>>133524407
whoa

you must be ignorant
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>>133524761
Chrollo/Phantom Troupe > Hisoka > Pariston > Illumi > Meruem > Royal Guards > Bomber
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>>133524869
You're confusing antagonist and villain, anon. Villains are evil.
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>>133524761
Chrollo/Ryodan > Royal Guards > Pariston = Illumi >>> Meruem >> Hisoka >>>>>> Genthru
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>>133524761
Prince Bateman has a lot of promise
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>wants to instill a meritocracy
>lives in a stolen palace filled with the butchered corpses of the innocent
Never trust people who want to change the world but can't start with themselves.
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>>133524761
Switch bomber and Illumi and you have the only correct answer.
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Humanity is a piece of shit, the only reason people disagree is CAUSE they're human and refuse to accept that fact.

I can name 100 times over how people's morals and society contradicts itself But hey "WE'RE GREAT, YES WE ARE, WE'RE PERFECT, YES WE ARE!!!!"

Delusion.
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>>133524379
Of shounen. Hisoka is a national treasure.
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>>133525099
Stop shitposting.
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>>133524761
Meruem > Illumi = Chrollo > Royal Guard > Pariston > Hisoka > Bomber

Illumi stays being most underrated. The guy made Killua his bitch in the Election arc. Figured everything out without losing a single thing while having Hisoka clean after him (to stop Teradain from exposing him).
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>>133525041
t. 13 year old
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>>133525030
Meruem was kind of an hypocrite. He talked about individuality and why it was bad for the balance of society and the bonds between people but was bent on wanting to know his name.
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>>133525099
I can't say I agree with you.
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>>133524590
We're both doing a lot of speculation, you included. But the basic layout is there, and that basic layout has been reused in so many medium. It's boring as fuck in my opinion.
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>>133524761
I thought bomber was going to be a pushover bitch ass punk after that match with Razor but he had some moves. He still got outplayed but I think that whole rock thing was biskys idea.
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>>133524672
Yes. Because he's a fun character and the trait you mentioned isn't all that there is to Hisoka if you've actually followed the series. Meruem is boring as fuck in comparison and his shitty ass generic character arc that defines most of him doesnt help.
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Razor was the obstacle in GI. Bomber looked like shit compared to that.
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>>133525168
>We're both doing a lot of speculation, you included.
What? No. I recently finished rereading the entire arc and everything i mentionned was pretty explicitely stated.
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>>133525135
>>133525164
How do meruemfags even exist? Is hxhthreads filled with 12 yr old tumblrcunts? Shit is twilight level cringey.
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>>133520865
>shitty

spoken like a poorfag. get a job you fucking bum. why should it be your right to have my stuff. weak ass pussy bitches should just fuck off and die in a gutter like the trash they are.
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>>133525168
Trope =/= execution

Meruem's gradual growth along with the ways the various characters mirror and foil him make him the best shounen antagonist. And that ending, fuck.
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>>133524761
Chrollo/Ryodan > Illumi > Hisoka > Pouf > Pariston > Meruem > Youpi > Pitou > Genthru > Prince > Genthru's goons
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>>133525041
You'll grow up one day.
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>actually agreeing with Meruem
Are you guys retarded? The series goes out of its way to explain how childish his views are. At least he has an excuse considering he's like a month old.
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>>133525249
What else is there? Hisoka doesn't want anything else but to face strong people to test his strength. He has no problem helping out the MCs because he wants them alive in order to gwt as strong as possible for when he deems them to ready to be killed by him.
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>>133524761
Hisoka is the best part of hxh so him.
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>>133525398
His views are undeniably right. Netero refused to speak to him because he knew they would agree and he would be swayed.
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>>133525461
Wow, the lack of comprehension is astounding.
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>>133525249
I'm talking about what you thought he was thinking when he was issuing orders to for the CA to kill people. Also, your second point doesnt really invalidate my basic greentext. Obviously I'm dumbing shit down, but it's true that he came in touch with a bit if his humane side through komugi. It's the basic "monster" learns to be more human type of premise. You could pretend it's oh so deeper and "different" and more mature then all the other stories that have the same premise, but it's the same shit.
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>>133524761
Youpi > Chrollo > Hisoka > Meruem > Pariston > Pouf = Pitou > Genthru > Illumi
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>>133525403
Hisoka is absolutely fascinating. From what small lapses we have into his mind and through his often nonsensical actions we can begin to construct the identity of a man who has far more going on then he will ever let onto. A confident sado-masochist, Hisoka has a love of battle and yearns to fight any and everyone who he considers strong. It’s heavily implied several times throughout the series that he’s also sexually attracted to strength, and the lengths he will go to just to set up a good fight are impressive. Hisoka’s desire to kill the things he loves are indicative of a severely f*cked up childhood, and one can only speculate at the events that led him to be the man he is today. However, he seems utterly satisfied with himself and his nature, never doubting his interests and personality and instead only reveling in it. He never becomes frustrated or conflicted in any real way. This is because Hisoka, ironically, is someone who has chiseled out his identity and has experienced enough of life to be certain of his core beliefs and who he is.
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>>133524761
Hisoka = Chrollo > Illumi > Meruem > Ryodan > Royal Guard >

Quick reminder that Hisoka turned a guys fucking arms to flowers.

He has nen abilities outside of Bungee Gum and what not.
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>>133525461
No, Netero refused to talk to him because he knew that in the end things would be the same. He wanted to get it over with quickly because he understood Meruem was a genuinely good person with little understanding of the world, which is what he meant when he said "You know nothing".
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>>133525548
meant for >>133525281
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>>133525560
>Quick reminder that Hisoka turned a guys fucking arms to flowers.
I want animeonly scum to leave.
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>>133525168
so, what's good and not generic in your opinion?
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>>133525560
>Hisoka turned a guys fucking arms to flowers
dumb animefag
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>>133525629
Shit.

I own the mangas too lol.
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>>133525628
I already stated Hisoka.
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>>133525548
>what you thought he was thinking when he was issuing orders to for the CA to kill people
He never did this though, it was Pitou and Pouf. He even told them not to bother him with this. Thanks for confirming you didn't pay attention to the series.
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>>133525548
holy fuck you are stupid

there is a trope for literally everything. meruem is great because he is a perfectly executed version of a crowning being questioning his raison d'etre.
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>>133525332
The ending of CA was the only thing good about that arc and Meruem had nothing to do with it.
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>>133525694
>raison d'etre
This isn't ergo proxy, go away.
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>>133525754
b8
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>>133525551
This fucking double standards. You can do the shit you are doing with Meruem to Hisoka and just meme greentext summarize his charactet.
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>>133525666
the gambit shotacon joker? really? he isn't bad, but is far from "fascinating" in my opinion.

btw
>Hisoka’s desire to kill the things he loves are indicative of a severely f*cked up childhood, and one can only speculate at the events that led him to be the man he is today.
this is generic.
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>>133525694
>perfectly executed version
delusions if i've ever seen one. read more books, faggot.
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>>133525813
I'm not him. Meruem is the best character, but Hisoka is pretty good too.
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Youpi was the best, prove me wrong.
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>>133525146
>>133525391

>I can't acknowledge humanities flaws
>Y..You're a child!

Gotta love dumbasses.
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>>133524761
Chrollo/Phantom Troupe > Meruem > Royal Guards > Hisoka > Pariston = Illumi > Prince > Shit >>>>>>>> Bomber
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>>133525760
How dumb can you be to literally reject the fact that existentialist tropes exist?
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>>133525847
take this "read more books" shit to another thread. a published author who has likely read more books than you considers CA a masterpiece
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Meruem essentially wanted the same thing as SEELE except by making it work into a society.
He should have won.
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>>133525813
That's some other anon, but honestly what does meruem's character even have besides his "perfectly" executed troupe? What's so different and special about him? Hisoka has a basic troupe but Togashi usually adds certain twists to his characters to make them unique/entertaining when you look at them outside of that troupe. It's the same with Gon. Meruem literal had no character besides what his is to that basic troupe that's been rehashed time and time again.
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>>133525992
Meruem’s relationship with Komugi represents the central optimism of Chimera Ant – it is its saving grace. Dozens of named characters die in the arc, along with tens of thousands of nameless innocents. But at the center of all that senseless bloodshed, the one creature dictating the future of the ants ends up becoming too human to survive. His games with Komugi dismantle his strength-focused philosophy piece by piece. How can he say he is the “strongest” if a physically helpless girl can always defeat him? What does it mean that he enjoys being defeated, enjoys the challenge even if it doesn’t result in him impressing his will on the world? If that’s the only thing he enjoys, then what is the good of power after all? How can you measure “strength” if his attempts to impress fear on the girl backfire immediately, because her mental resolve is stronger than his own? And how can someone who possesses such strength still be so weak, so “inferior,” so willing to be obsequious and never exert her own will on the world?
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>>133525911
Yeah, some third rate author that no one gives a fuck about. You know fanfic authors can become published too right? If you take shit like that into account then you must think one piece is the second coming of christ or someshit.
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Would you nuke Meruem?
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>>133525911
>i cant form my own opinions
>i need other sources to assure me if something is good or not
how much of a betafaggot can you be?
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>>133525992
Besides that trope you dislike so much but has actually been executed differently (ie him not changing his mind about humans after meeting Komugi and instead because of a bomb), he is shown to be merciful, collected and diplomatic while at the same time being firm with his leadership and enjoys having his strategic skills challenged. This is more than there is to Hisoka and you're being an hypocrite.
I don't know where your irrational dislike of him comes from and i don't mind it, but don't try to rationalize it like a retard.
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>>133526130
Obviously
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>>133524761
this tbqh
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>>133526072
What the fuck are you even doing? What the fuck is the point of this post? How does this answer my question about what makes him unique about his character? It's like you think this shit is hard to understand or get. Nigga no.
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>>133524761
Are you ranking them by power levels? Everything should be reversed except Bomber.
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>>133526395
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>>133526395
Are you retarded?
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>>133526429
>>133526468
The strongest characters are at the top despite them being bland and boring.

It should be reversed completely.
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>>133526575
Nice meme opinion. Do you feel contrarian yet?
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>>133526643
Not him, but I agree. What makes one opinion a meme and not the other? The original post is just an opinion too that I highly disagree with.
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>>133524951
The Phantom Troupe are evil
Stop being edgy
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>>133526072
Why the fuck do you keep posting this? Are you the owner of that blog or something?
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>>133526729
We reject no one.
So take nothing from us.
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>>133526766
That's hypocritical coming from people who take everything from everyone else
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>>133526643
Why are meruemfags so defensive? Who cares if people dont think he's the best villain in hxh or even good at all? It's like you niggers are compensating for something. Usually happens when deep down you know your favorite isnt all that great. Need to bring down others to prove yours is the best even when it's from the same fucking series.
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>>133526683
I have never seen someone make a compelling argument about why Meruem/the RG are bland or boring, it's always the exact same thing as what has been said in this thread and people always explain why it's a worthless argument.
I also have never seen someone simply claim "i don't like him", it always is a strong statement meant to generate some (You)s.
I chose to assume it's either shitposting or claiming this for the sake of not agreeing with others. If that's genuinely how you feel though then i'm sorry for shitposting.
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>>133526849
Fucking this. The PT's motto is stupid
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>>133526852
>meruem isn't the best hxh antagonist
Nice fucking meme.
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>>133526852
>like thing
>someone say thing is shit
>disagree
>hurr why are you so defensive? do you compensate? i bet you actually know it's shit
Come on anon, you're better than this.
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>>133526859
The counter argument isnt all that compelling either.
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>>133526849
>everyone else
Have they ever targeted civilians, though? They mostly steal from the mafia and others of that sort. And don't bring up the Kurta because we don't know the full story yet.
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>>133526927
>like thing
>someone says it's shit
>suddenly say nu-uh this is even shittier! when latter wasnt even mentioned
>not compensating
okay
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>>133526962
>And don't bring up the Kurta because we don't know the full story yet.
Full story? They massacred an entire town and stole and their eyeballs, and went out of their way to fuck with people so that their eyes would turn red before they died.
There is no possible justification for it.
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>>133526979
>like thing
>someone says it's shit
>someone says this is even shittier
>suddenly say nu-uh why are you so defensive?
>say not compensating
>suddenly
>okay

okay
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>>133526929
The counter argument is an objective, observable fact. It is not the "monster hates humans, bonds with human and it makes him change his view about humans and then dies" trope like what is claimed every single time.
I honestly legitimately believed it was some sort of recurrent shitpost at this point.
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>>133526925
>meruem
>best anything
nice meme
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>>133526979
>>suddenly say nu-uh this is even shittier! when latter wasnt even mentioned
>things that didn't happen
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>>133527053
Your greentext doesnt even make sense, you triple nigger. Nice try though.
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>>133526849
>>133526901
>>133526962
>>133527042
>Troupefags will defend this
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>>133526859
Why are the RG interesting? If anything Gyro and NGL were the stars of the arc.
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>>133527072
>It is not the "monster hates humans, bonds with human and it makes him change his view about humans and then dies" trope like what is claimed every single time.
Are you serious? The troupe is there. Whether you think Mereum's character executes it well or does a nice spin of it is a different matter, but not acknowledging that the troupe was used is just being delusional.
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>>133527108
Read the thread, you faggot. I claimed meruem was a boring antagonist and suddenly people are mouthing off Hisoka when I didnt even mention him.
>>133524672
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>>133527162
> Gyro

And I'm done with this thread.
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>>133527225
>someone did this so everyone who disagrees with me does it too
You're pulling my leg now anon.
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>>133527225
>meruem was a boring antagonist
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>>133527162
Early Chimera Ant was my favorite part.
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>>133527259
I just linked one but there's a lot more hisoka bashing in this thread if you just scroll up nigga.
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>>133527162
>buh buh muh sob backstory
>i had a shit childhood so i'll become a druglord!
>more interesting than characters exploring their empathy, jealousy, respect, and discovering unconditional love through different points of view
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>>133527231
What's interesting about Pitou and Pouf? The fact that he's fujobait?
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>>133527270
Not baiting. I think he was the worst major antagonist in the series, and CA was the worst arc.
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>>133527163
For it to be there it needs to happen. It doesn't happen because Meruem doesn't change his opinion with Komugi. You're complaining about him because of some vague overarching plot that isn't even conventionally done. I want you to think about this for a minute.
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>>133527369
The growing humanity of each RG was one of the best-done aspects of the entire arc.
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>>133527393
Are you the same anon from the other thread?
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>>133527435
So you're saying he doesnt develop some humane feelings/characteristics because of his interactions with Komugi? You know most of these monster stories are similar right?
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>>133527543
This is the only hxh thread I posted in today. I wouldnt be suprised if there were other CA haters out there though. You know, opinions and shit.
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>>133526929
How the fuck can you counter 'I got bored'? That guy got bored, nothing we say can change it. He straight up shuts down >>133526072 by asking what the point of it, even though it's an exploration of why someone finds his character development interesting.

Personally I see Meruem's development as good/unique for a few reasons. It's slow, subtle and incomplete. There were excellent moments like Komugi being prepared to die if she loses a game, Meruem protecting her out of instinct after resolving to kill her, and of course the death scene but it never feels forced because it's low key, it's not falling in standard romantic love and changing completely. Meruem still retains his original attitude, just a more moderate version.

Secondly, the catalyst for the development is Komugi, not a main cast member. Which is important because Gon etc changing Meruem for the better is a way to glorify a character we're already interested in and automatically support (eg: Naruto talk no jutsu-ing Pain). Not much time is spent making us like or know Komugi and she's not conventionally cute. Our investment isn't in her as a person, but in her relationship with Meruem, it's built solely on their relationship development without any preconceived bias towards her.

Thirdly, the lack of backstory and established characteristics make his development better executed. It was good to make him a 'newborn', that means Togashi can't cheat to make him sympathetic with a sob story from his past. Tragic backstories are a cheap, easy way to force a character's development and the audience's interest in them. Not only does his attitude not stem from his past, it's mainly rooted in biology instead of just his personality, so it's harder to argue with. It's a very solid way to establish shades of grey in his moral stance.

Somehow that guy who finds him boring strikes me as the type to prefer a backstory to make him interested.
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>>133527393
Chimera Ant is not, as you so crudely put it, the "worst arc". It's generally bad for your reputation to denounce it so openly in a forum of HxH connoisseurs. Please read through the thread. There are a number of intelligent responses that completely cripple your amateur analysis of Togashi's work.
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>>133527369

They're both hot, that's pretty interesting.
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>>133520763
"Do not underestimate humanity's infinite potential for malice"
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>>133527609
Not today, i think that anon posted yesterday.
I'm curious then, what made you think of it as the worst arc with the worst antagonist in the series?
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>>133527658
I hope you're being sarcastic.
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>>133527658
Please kill yourself. CA is a great arc but you're either a shitposter or a massive faggot.
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>>133527658
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>>133527694
He died for our sins
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>>133527499
Did Pouf ever grow though? He seemed one dimensional the entire time.
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>>133527658
>HxH connoisseurs
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>>133527835
Because he's a butterfly. You can't evolve what is already in it's final form.
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>>133527835
Please tell me what you think one dimensional means.
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>>133527658
>connoisseurs
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>>133527835
>pouf
>one dimensional
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>>133527929
>>133527919
>his absolute idealism would permit no modification
There. I think that's the "one dimensional" side of Pouf.
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>>133528010
>one dimensional means that a character doesn't magically changes stances
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>>133528010
that's a dimension to pouf, but he's not one-dimensional. Please don't be the retard who tried to claim pitou was one-dimensional too.
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>>133527919
That was his entire character from the very beginning. He never evolved from that or grew as a human as I'm told every ant did.
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>>133528010
>has more than one "side"
>one dimensional
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>>133527714
As an antagonist/character, I found him boring and generic, pretty much on par with Chrollo's character with having no defining/interesting personality except I at least enjoyed the arc he was associated with. Also, the whole trope behind his character was overdone for me, which made it worse. I understand you can like him for his character arc, but I personally like antagonists that have a defined personality and can be entertaining outside of that. CA in general, I thought the execution was shit, until towards the end. I didnt care about nearly anything that was going on and the new characters introduced except maybe Knuckle. The CAs themselves were shit too.
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>>133528064
He was literally the opposite of that in the beginning.
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>>133528043
That's what I used the "s. I'm not the anon who posted the original one dimensional post.
I understood that the other anon meant "one dimensional" as the fact that he didn't humanized as Pitou and Youpi.
Please don't bully
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>>133527714
And no, I didnt post in a hxhthread yesterday.
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>>133528089
Not him but what sides? He wanted the king as a ruthless killing machine no regard for humanity. That’s very literally it.
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>>133528130
http://myanimelist.net/manga/11/Naruto
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>>133528130
>i don't like it
>it's bad
>i didn't care
What kind of reasoning is this?
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>>133528130
Oh boy, we've got a retard with the attention span of a flea.
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>>133528064
Yes, it is true that he kept the same view from the start. No, that isn't what one dimensional means. Please don't be a retard anon, i know you're smarter than this.
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>>133528204
Do you seriously think newborn Pouf, this >>133527919 Pouf, and scheming Pouf who lies to Meruem for his benefit don't make him a complex character?
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>>133528234
Then what kind of reasoning do you have for your least favorite arc? Fuck off. I explained why I didnt like Meruem and why I thought he was boring. If you dont agree, whatever.
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>>133528231
What?
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>>133528265
What does attention span have to do with anything? Did I say I didnt understand shit or was confused about anything?
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>>133528130
>pretty much on par with Chrollo's character with having no defining/interesting personality
Explain your reasoning as to why you believe he doesn't have an interesting personality.
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>>133528330
>>133528376
>>133528417
Anon, you can reply to more than one person in a single post.
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>>133528167
I'm sorry, i misread your post and thought you were the same anon. There will be no bullying.
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>>133520926
he was a week old or some shit not 1 day
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/pol/ please leave. Everyone knows rich don't deserve to be rich as long as dynastic wealth exists. The only way to create a fair world would be to destroy the concept of inheritance and thus only the hardworking and naturally talented will move forward.
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>>133528130
> not liking Shoot

This fucking shit taste is ridiculous.
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>>133528558
Fuck off commie.
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>>133524272
>>humanity bad
>>must exterminate all humanity !


wrong

he initially just saw humans as the perfect meal
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>>133528470
I know, but when I reply to one, another one appears and so forth.
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>>133528614
True meritocracy has nothing to do with communism. Dynastic wealth is the cancer killing capitalism.
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>>133528680
Is modern capitalism a failed idea that attaches economic value to arbitrary labels?
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I want to go on a date with Pitou
I want to make tender love with Pitou
I want to marry her and have a lot of children
I want to protect her smile
I want her to cry and hold my hand while I'm on my deathbed sending me off with a kiss
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>>133528763
Me too
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>>133528845
DELETE
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>>133528763
Sorry, but Pitou is a cocksucker who only cares about Meruem and you can't impregnate an infertile male ant.
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>>133528845
Kill yourself
>>133528913
If I love her enough she can become a girl
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>>133528913
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>>133528913
Etc
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>>133528913
you got it backwards, male ants are fertile, but Pitou being a female ant would still be infertile.
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>>133529064
does youpi have a penis?
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>>133529178
Youpi can have whatever you want, baby
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>>133529178
>penis
more like horsedick
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>>133529178
Yes, but he could probably morph it into a vagina.
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Meruem was the perfect living being born to rule.
At the beginning, humans were to him just livestock, he wanted to prove himself that he was superior to them in every field.
Then he meets Komugi and keeps losing against her: the fact that she always defeats him goes against his previous beliefs that humans were just livestock. He starts to develop feeling for her(more of respect than love).
That's the part where Meruem tries to avoid the truth and goes delusional with that edgy speech about strength being the only thing that matters. Even if he says this, he deep inside knows the truth and when he goes to kill Komugi he ends up saving her. Here he also noted how weak Komugi is and start to think that he could use his strength for better things like protecting the weak.
Even though he has this developments, at this point he's still the perfect living being and thinks of himself more of a god than a human. A god with the right do judge humans.
He was literally a god for the entire arc, infinitely superior to all the others characters, he even acquires some kind of omniscience, being capable of seeing everything, teleports wherever he wants, understand what the others think etc.
After he gets in touch with the human true power(evolution/malice) he realizes that in the end he was nothing more than a living being, and after learning his fate he regrets everything he did because he's not a god and should just have pursued his own happines, like he did in the end.
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>>133528746
Yes.
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>>133529178
No but Pouf probably does.
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Why was Pouf the only ant with five fingers?
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>>133528558
Man has known the son to take after the father since prior to the first written word.

If a man is of such a superior physical or intellectual endowment as to amass an inheritable sum for his kin, they are likewise of a nobler strain than the subordinate classes and more deserving.
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Yeah and no.

Meruem was right to point out that humanity was flawed, but given that his vision for humanity was genocide at worst and enslavement with the freedom of a few specimens deemed superior at best, he was in no position to criticize. Doubvly so as the natural born king of an insect society.
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>>133530139
Because he's best boy.
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>>133529301
heh
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>>133525837
Not him but still less generic than monster-becomes-human.
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Meruem > RG > Chrollo > Hisoka > Pariston > Phantom Troupe > Bomber > Illumi

Though it's hard for me to decide whether Bomber or Illumi is the worst. Bomber felt like he could be replaced with any "generally evil" guy and the story wouldn't suffer from it, but I did really enjoy his fight with Gon.
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>>133531606
> Illumi bottom

Fucking kill yourself.
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>>133531677
edge lord special snowflake family.
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>Meruem
>villain
The true villain of the CA arc is Pouf, not Meruem.
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>>133525308
And you should try to capitalize your sentences.
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>>133531721
This thread really is fucking terrible.
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>>133531606
Why is Illumi last?
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>>133527042
Fucking this. I'm tired of reading responses like
>"HURR we don't know the full story!"
>"b-but the note!"
The Ryodan knew exactly what they were doing to the Kurta when they raided their village. There is no justification for the atrocities they committed against them. >>133527128
>>133526962
Did you read the manga? It's explained by that one guy what meteor city folk are like and the kind of shit they pull.
This is the case he brings up:
>One bum claiming to be from meteor city gets arrested and detained for murder
>3 years later he's proven innocent, turns out some drug addict actually committed the murder
>shortly after 31 meteor city residents go and allahu akbar all 31 people involved in the bums case (judge, prosecutor, members of the jury, witnesses etc)
>meteor city suicide bombers had smiles on their faces while killing themselves and their targets
>note left behind was "We'll accept anything you leave here, but take nothing from us!"

There you have it. Meteor City residents are legitimately insane, they take everything overboard. They are literally niggers. I'm sure the Kurta clan massacre was no exception either.
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>>133532584
>They are literally niggers.
>>>/pol/
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why diddnt meruem comment on gon-san? what would he have to say about gon?
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>>133532860
I know a lot of people were happy that the MC didn't "change" him like other shonens but I'm still disappointed they never got to speak to each other.
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>>133524998
Who?
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>>133533141
>animefag
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>>133532860
>"lol what a gay"
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>>133533141
the prince that owns the remaining scarlet eyes
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>>133533406
>coaxed
How did he coax people to give him a crimson eye?
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>>133533539
Kurapika pleases old men for eyes!
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Regarding Gon's status of not having Nen. How is he going to handle it?

Is "Badass normal" a possible thing in the world of HxH?

Do you think that Gon's mom may be related to kakin's lineage? Having a nen beast is one of the options i can think of him being part of the DC.

Or maybe he befriends another "ai" and asks it to get his nen back
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Meruem got what he deserved for being cocky and thinking he was above the human race. All his talk about how he was born to rule the world and how superior he was to humans and in the end he got destroyed by a cheaply made bomb that could be easily mass produced. He wasn't even enough of a threat to register on most humans radar. In the end he got crushed like the weak little ant that he was.
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>>133534448
>Regarding Gon's status of not having Nen. How is he going to handle it?
Something just ain't kosher. Gon has some form of amnesia about what happened to him. There is definitely going to be something off the wall about the way he gets it back.
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>>133534916
>nuclear weapons
>cheap
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>>133535251
The Rose bomb was a fairly cheaply made bomb, yes. This was spelled out in the manga.
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>>133535251
It's explicitly described as cheap
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>>133535251
The cheapest mass produced WMD money can buy (in bulk)
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>>133535103
>Gon has some form of amnesia about what happened to him
That's not even true. He remembers everything.
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>>133535308
>>133535316
>>133535321
the cost of manufacture isn't that high for nuclear weapons it's the set up cost for infrastructure(which is decreasing decade by decade with technological advances)
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>>133533539
He coaxed them by being a kiss-ass and doing their dirty work, everything he did for them was strictly business.
>>133533610
Go away.
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>>133535475
There is still something suspicious about what's going on though, else there wouldn't be any point in hiding from Gon how bad he turned out.

Also to Gon himself there's some mystery about why he's out of nen. Either that has to do with the nature of restriction he placed on himself, or the wish Nanika made. Either or there's an issue. If it has to do with the restriction, then there should be no mystery to Gon, but there is. And if it's Nanika's doing then it's a mystery to Killua who is supposedly the expert on her abilities.

Something just isn't adding up.
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>>133535800
>Also to Gon himself there's some mystery about why he's out of nen.

No there isn't. Sacrificing his nen was part of the condition for his power up.
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>>133535889
Then why call Ging up to inquire about it? It seems less like it was something he was expecting and more like the restriction he made was what it was blamed on.
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>>133535800
I don't remember anybody trying to hide Gon's condition from him. I'm pretty sure Leorio told him about it too.
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>>133535946
He probably just thought the wish cured it
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Was Shinji stronger than Mereum?
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>
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>>133536581
I'm not reading Hunter x Hunter because you haven't updated it in a year you spine-injured nip fuck.

Forget about what makes you happy and concern yourself with finishing your masterpiece. Imagine if Michelangelo quit the Sistine Chapel halfway through.
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>>133523381
Locksmith was the best character, prove me wrong.
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daily reminder togashi is hack,
>tfw no killua vs pufu
>took me 15mins in paint, took togashi 7years
pic related
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>>133536924
this isn't real is it

I heard some chapter were redrawn but this is just too dogshit.
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>>133536990
>I heard some chapter were redrawn but this is just too dogshit.
stop this meme, togashis art isint even that bad,
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>>133537059
you just got TROLLED son
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>>133537083
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>>133536924
i really need to reread that arc,
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>>133537287
I wish Hisoka was half as entertaining as Pouf.
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>>133536742
I'm sure he cares about an entitled autist.
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These are the top 5 best HxH volume covers, any other opinion is objectively wrong.
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>>133538730
When Pariston will get his own cover?
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>>133520763
>Meruem
It's Melem you dipshit. AD agrees.
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>>133539855
It's Meryem, shueisha agrees.
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>>133539855
>>133539930
actually it's museum
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