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Where the fuck is the DLC edition

Old thread: >>26760272
>VS Code: vgptg

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/wg88nq9D

>How do I play online? What is a VS code?
After completing the initial menu tutorial and picking a partner pokemon, pick Online Battle from the main menu / world map.
VS codes are basically passwords. Set the preferences to Anyone > Use Vs Code > vgptg

>What are some resources I can check out?
http://www.serebii.net/pokken/
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pokken+tournament+tutorial
http://kuroganehammer.com/Pokken
http://pokkenarena.boards.net/
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Fuck Charizard
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Best Pokkén.
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>>26858544
>patch notes for 1.3 isn't included in
>not even the SITE itself isn't included

what the fuck

patch notes for v1.3:
http://assets.pokemon.com/assets/cms2/pdf/video-game/pokken/Pokken_Ver1.3_patch_notes.pdf

official site for any official tournies and basic info:

http://www.pokkentournament.com/en-us/
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>at work
>games everywhere
>come home
>dead as fuck
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>>26858637
Kys
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>>26858637
That's a pretty weird looking Gardevoir.
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anyone want to play
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>>26860045
sure
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>>26860087
getting on now
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>>26858544
The hell is Ursaring man?
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>>26860045
looks like I got dced for peeing too long
ggs, i didn't know we were actually playing in the pga
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>>26860406
ggs
garchomp is still scary
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Don't die
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I think there's going to be a tournament for Pokken streamed later today for CEO or something?
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>>26862020
What's their twitch?
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Were Pokkén's sales good enough for an NX sequel?
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>>26862735
probably
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Forgot I had saved this screenshot. Minor bug where the flame wouldn't show up.
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>>26863253
Speaking of bugs, I got one where the entire floor of Dragon Nest disappeared for the whole match.
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>>26863253
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>>26862610
/PokkenTournament
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Top 32 starts in less than 4 minutes.

twitch pokkentournament
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>chat is disabled for this channel

Really?
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Fought Ouroboro but he was using Machamp.
Would've definitely gotten destroyed had he used Garde.
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Hah, S.Mewtwo feeling it from the field phase homing nerf.
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Why don't they just remove vortex, since they haven't learned how to properly nerf it.
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Man, what's the point of watching a stream without chat? Might as well just watch a recording.
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>all these m2s
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>Empoleon

HAPPENING
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>zard vs lamp
rip lizard
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no way that just happened.
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Fuck
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chandy players confirmed for salty dcer fucks
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INFERNAPE SHITTERS

B

T

F

O
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>>26866171
>>26866188
What happened?
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>>26866363
connection error just as chandelure was about to lose.
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LMAO rekd
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LMAO rektario
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are they going to use any interesting characters

where is gengar and sceptile
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>empoleon

what does it mean.
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>>26866436
where are the fucking CHOMPS
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AW YISS SCEPTILE

please dont job
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>>26866436
Mewtwo and Charizard have already been used, but don't worry, we'll probably see more of them
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This sceptile needs to be more aggressive.
>taking headphones off mid match.
Nigger, what are you doing.
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>>26866375
>connection error just as chandelure was about to lose.
>>26866188
Did the dc round count?
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this fucking poverty ass venue jesus christ get your hardware shit together
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>>26866529
hit with a red hp burst while around 200 hp left so i'd assume so
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Is there anything better than watching zoners get BTFO?
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EAT SHIT LAMP FUCKS
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>>26866601
Machamp winning, maybe
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>>26866601
perfecting meleecucks while they try to get in all match
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>outzoned by pikachu
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Catfight btfo.
let's go pika
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A

FUCKING

LAMP
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>>26866676
>loss of loved one.

kek, why do I notice this now.
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I don't understand why people don't counter attack chandelure's up j. X, it doesn't pierce.
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>>26866601
Nothing, save for destroying them yourself.
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3 (three) sand tombs
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>sand tomb
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>3 SAND TOMBS
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good shit from this chomp
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>>26866973
>>26866976
>>26866982
>>26866993
i got dc'd. who did chomp fight against?
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>>26867080
charizard, one of the best too.
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lmao this suicune.

Sad thing is that I would probably fall for all of his obvious shit thinking he's going to mix up.
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>You'll never have a beard like Bim's
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>weavile player

pls don't bite it
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>practically perfected
holy shit bim
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>>26867182
he's playing very differently.
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rip weavile
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>>26867272
Good riddance
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I haven't played the game or watched streams or vised the general in like 2 months, any new tech?
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>>26867324
dlc confirmed, that's about it.

>tfw I can hear my girl getting beat up in the background.
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>>26860177
We aren't allow to have fun bears like Ursaring and Pangoro.
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rip mlian
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I haven't been watching much, but do they ever switch to the other player's camera?
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this gardevoir is getting bodied
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So far we have seen
Garchomp
Chandelure
Suicune
Weavile
Sceptile
Gardevoir
Pika Libre
Lucario
Charizard

Anybody else? no Blaziken or Machamp?
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I hope this results in Charizard nerfs.
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>j]X[ 666X is required in order to git gud with chomp
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>>26867416
Would you really want this in your future?
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>>26867589
no sight of Blaziken or Machamp.
Lots of S. Mewtwos and mewtwos.
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>>26867600
Shame
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I didn't even know Chandelure had Minimize.
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rip shadow mewtwo

>commentators getting so hype that they blow out the audio
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Holy shit, my heart. Catfight's prostate must've fallen out of his ass after that.
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Hope they nerf Mewtwo's throw damage.
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>>26867820
>Hope they nerf Mewtwo's damage
ftfy
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>announcement

holy shit, is it time?
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>>26867847
what announcement
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>Mewtwo, S. Mewtwo, and Charizard
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Tomorrow is the last day of the tournament right? I really fucking hope we get trailer by then.
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Games anyone?
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>>26868022
sure
i wanna practice some combos though so apologies in advance if I play like shit
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>>26868035
Alright, give me about 10 minutes. Going to take a quick shower first.
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Now that Mewtwo has failed to make any significant impact on tournaments and received several nerfs, are you niggers finally going to stop crying about it?

Seriously, Mewtwo was never top tier, even before the nerfs. Its approaches are extremely unsafe and its damage is merely on par. More importantly, it doesn't get a free "I win" move with invincibility to ignore the attack triangle and do huge damage every round.

It's a good pubstomper, which is why it's been overrated so much, but that also means you're a major shitter if you get destroyed by it.
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>>26868099
Interesting that CEO had no Blaziken. I see them often in the other tournaments, and I feel like I almost exclusively fight Blaziken online.
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>>26868099
Gengar, Braixen Machamp and Blaziken confirmed for shit.
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>>26868099
>tfw no Gengar reps
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>>26868314
No damage = No reps
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Anyone still on the code?
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>>26868388
I guess I could get on in a couple minutes.
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>>26868388
I'm considering hopping on. Slow afternoon and I feel like fitegames.
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>>26868408
This anon here. Gonna be messing around in friendlies and ranked, but if anyone else shows up wanting matches let me know and I'll hop onto the code.
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Good stuff, just learned that garchomp's back [y] (I think) pierces counters on field phase.
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>>26868070
>actually pull it off approximately 1 (one) time
committing combos to muscle memory is suffering
gg
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>>26868566
waiting on the code
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good games, Kurisu. Those were all super close and well played.
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>>26868612
Not him, but I'll hop on.
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>>26868677

GGs
I'm considering to start using more fennekin/emolga instead of cresselia/reshiram after this
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>>26868099
Never thought mewtwo was broken but I still think it has way too many combo starter moves. Not to mention that they just have to mash one button after they connect a hit, and the output will be over 150 damage.

I was hoping mewtwo would be more technical, kind of like chomp and sceptile to justify the damage.
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>>26868703
You're damn good with that Fennekin. So many times when I whiffed something important with your quick reflex.

I've been trying to play an honest Chandy that doesn't zone too much or pull mindless bullshit. Could you give me an honest rating from 1-10 on how much bullshit I pulled? 10 being some ol' bullshit.
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>>26868747
I think it was fine maybe 3/10 only thing that really frustrates me about chandelure is the command grab but I kind of play terrified of it so idk
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>>26868566
ggs
not really feeling it today, sorry
dropped combos suck
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>>26869056
>clashes and whiffs in the last seconds of the penultimate match
>failure to pull off the burst mode turnabout in the final

GGs! Though I was prepared for you when I recognized the name but you've changed up your style a bit. Fun all the same.

And yeah. Which is pretty much all of my Blaziken matches. Need to find a support set that compliments his abilities. Maybe Rotom/Togekiss or Misreavus/Ninetales idk.
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>>26868099
>Absolutely no Braixens
Seriously? Is nobody interested in playing as Braixen? I really hope Tonosama brings the heat at EVO/PWC with his.
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>>26869762
Braixen is a shitty furbait character, no one with any self-respect would play it. Least of all at a tornament where everyone can witness your degenerate furfagottry.
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So how does this all play out? I mean we had UK champion, Italy and Germany champions some time last week right?
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>>26869762
Is this a true combo?
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>>26869838
I know you're joking with that statement, but just in case you aren't, are you saying that people would rather keep their image intact instead of playing as their best character, particularly when thousands of dollars in bonuses are at stake?

>>26869860
I doubt it, since you could probably counter out of the fire spin. This combo was also created pre-patch, so with fire spins guard damage nerf, it probably doesn't work anymore. Still a cool combo though.
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>about to finish crushing this guy several ranks ahead of me, literally seconds from landing the finishing blow
>Internet drops out right at that moment
>mfw
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>>26869860
You could counter before the second hit of 8X, but that would've lead to you getting burst attacked.
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>>26869762
wtf braixen is so gay
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>>26869762
>Tonosama

There's the name i've been looking for, been meaning to see how he plays.
I was expecting some crazy play and shit I probably never thought of before but it looks like he's just really good with mindgames in general.

Hope he does well at EVO.
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>>26869838
You need some time off of 4chan. Normies don't assume off the bat that you're a furfag for using esque characters. They also don't hate furfags as much as we do.
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Bumparoo
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Top 16 of that tournament from yesterday is happening right now.

Same place.
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>>26871905
Fuck, I forgot. Thanks for the reminder.
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>Suicune took it over sceptile
At least it was a hype GF
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There was far less banter during this stream, shame.

God damn it I just want my trailer, they can't make us wait until the world championship.
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>Page 9

What the fug
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When's EVO so I can stop playing this busted game
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>>26876160
July 15-17
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>>26867343
DLC? What kind of DLC?
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>>26876706
Potentially Darkrai, Empoleon, and Scizor as new fighters.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokkenGame/comments/4o5mnh/some_info_about_file_differences_in_the_new_13/
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>>26876892
>still no mawile
>no swampert, but empoleon
Darkrai and Scizor are cool I guess, I can see darkrai being insanely broken with dark void+bad dreams+dream eater shit. That's disappointing though.
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>>26876984
>Darkrai and Scizor are cool I guess
Not really.
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>>26876984
Honestly, we don't need another legendary Pokemon. Let alone Darkrai, who's demeanor feels awfully similar to Shadow Mewtwo.
Empoleon is at least good for any water starter at all.
Scizor is good in that we finally get a bug type.

Any of these may be planned as half a support set, though. Anything with currently only two move animations or fewer could be support.
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>>26877413
I agree with the demeanor thing but I feel that Darkrai's typing and aesthetic are different enough to distinguish it from Mewtwo/Shadow Mewtwo.
I think they can give it a unique gimmick that involves sleep that could also set it apart.
With Darkrai we would be a little legendary heavy, but I there are worse legendaries and Pokemon in general to get than Darkrai.
I'm not a fan of Empoleon, but I do agree, having another water rep/having a water starter would really round out the cast. As an aside, they gave Suicune a lot of Ice moves which is something I feel the greater Pokemon franchise does (see Smash and Movies).
Scizor is definitely a good addition. A lot of people like it and it's one of the strongest bug types in the game.
I'm hype, truly I am. I really do hope these are new fighters and not parts of support sets.
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>>26869762
I think Braxien could be really fun for all sorts of Support combo shenanigans, but I'm generally too annoyed facing off against them to seriously consider it for a main position.

Plus I'm restricting myself to a single mon of each category for now and Blaziken has me covered for Standard.
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>>26877611
I feel similarly.
Braixen has a cool/unique design, but I fucking hate fighting it. Projectile spam is the most obnoxious and brain dead thing in any fighting game.
That's an interesting restriction. I tend to group the Pokemon in my head by wether they're beam spammers/up close/mixed.
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>>26877744
Braixen is mixed. Braixen is the Ky Kiske of Pokken.
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Just finished watching the 2nd day of CEO via VOD. Those later matches were hype as hell, partucularly any match with TeeJay playing. Being an Eeveelution fan myself, I was also pleasantly surprised about how much Sylveon in particular was used, especially compared to previous tourneys.
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>>26879457
Let's just say that Sylveon saves lives and its an actual pain especially with stats off.
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Do you think Pokken 2 should stick with 1v1 + assists or go 2v2? Gundam Vs. or Tekken Tag style.
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I missed the stream because I was out
how did best mon do
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>>26877744
Yeah, I think I make note of the traditional fighting styles they fit into and try not to double up in that regard as well. But I just figured it'd be interesting to be familiar with a mon from each of the categories so I've kept that in mind when it comes to picking up a new character. Most of the mons I'm interested in fall under Power though.

Started with Chomp in Power, added Blaziken after that.

My Technical is Shadow Mewtwo at the moment but I've become so annoyed by the Mewtwos that I've been considering swapping it out for Gardevoir instead. Which would give me a zoner as well which tends to be one of my better playstyles.

The only one I'm not sure on is Speed. Kinda want to play Weavile, but Pika Libre seems more likely. I'll work at it more once I've honed my Blaziken a bit more.
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>>26879886
Stick with 1v1 + Assists as standard, add an optional 2v2 mode for fun if they must.

Personally I really enjoy the game the way it is. It's simple enough and has a small roster which makes it accessible to learn, yet there's enough to the mechanics to make play at higher levels fun. First non-Smash fighting game in a while where I've felt like I know what I'm doing.
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>burst chomp 5Y5A j]X[ 8A on light characters
it's such an ass combo in so many ways but holy shit if that isn't stylish as fuck
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>>26879886
Well, it does have roots in Tekken.
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>>26879886
>>26880823
I've been hoping for this mode for the longest time. I mean consider tag with pic related

Maybe make it an option?
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Bumparoo
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anyone on
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So who won that tournament at CEO?
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>server maintenance

Oh.
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>>26880939
>Pika/Pika Libre
>Machamp/Conkeldurr
>Garchomp/Flygon
>Suicune/Raikou
>Blaziken/Infernape
Yeah I could see that
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>>26886189
>Blaziken/Infernape
>not Blaziken/Emboar
Fast Guy and Big Guy is better than Fast Guy x2
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>no one ever talks about Gengar
>except for when talking about how bad he is
He's not that bad, is he?
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>>26885720
Suicune Master won with Suicune + Croagunk. Teejay got 2nd with Sceptile + Sylveon.
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>Trying to rank back up to B4
>Win first 2 matches
>Win the 3rd with a grab, guy disconnects before it ends
>I mess up the next three matches

Annihilating an A5 Suicune today made me feel a little better.
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Hypothetically - Smeargle as a playable character?
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>one stream on twitch

Is it over bros?
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>>26891932
Maybe if that tournament stream allowed for chat, more people would have been drawn into caring about the game.

Goddamn, what a terrible choice that was.
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>>26891932
No. Just no one gives a fuck about that piece of shit console Nintendo makes.

If they released this game for pc I would have bought it already.
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>>26888837
he's not bad at all
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>>26891970

I'm praying the NX is backwards compatible.
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>>26891977
Would be nice. I seriously don't own a single console other than a 3ds to play a handful of games. Like pokemon.

Everything else I play on pc and retro gaming I have my pi retro console I made.

I hate having to spend hundreds of dollars on some shitty ass console to realistically play 1-2 games I want to play.
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>>26891977
I'm expecting we won't get backwards compatibility and they'll either port it or go straight to the sequel.
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>>26892007

I thought the same thing, then Wii U ended up having like 6 or 7 games I want to play. That's more than I usually buy in a gen.

But I decided to "hold out" for NX, and have been for years now. Regret that will only be eased by backwards compatibility.
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>>26888837
He's not. He just takes work and careful play.

>>26890037
This happened to me so many times before I finally got to B1. I've lost so many matches due to lag/luck and then haven't been able to compensate because so many fuckers rage quit. I should still get my points if I was going to win. And those who rage quit should lose double points and be banned for 10 minutes ala Smash Bros.
Also fuck Suicune and all beam spammers.
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>>26892037
Yeah I mean...don't get me wrong, I could FIND games I would want to play but honestly I just want to play pokken. Maybe a few other games. But I can't justify dropping money down for a console I'll barely ever use.

I just wish Nintendo would make some shit for pc. Even if they have their own launcher. But that will never happen.
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>>26892050

I really wanted to play MH3U, W101, Bayo 2, Splatoon, Smash and Pokken. Then others as "might as well" games. Would have been more than worth it but I can't justify it so close to NX.

Putting games on PC would just make them easier to emulate.
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>>26892038
Realistically, they should have the match keep going with P2 playing as a computer, kinda like what (I think?) Smash 4 does.

I don't care about them not losing points so long as I get what I worked for.
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How's my fake list of characters for Pokken 2?

Charizard
Pikachu
Pikachu Libre
Machamp
Gengar
Kangaskhan
Mewtwo
Scizor
Ursaring
Skarmory
Suicune
Sceptile
Blaziken
Gardevoir
Manectric
Regirock
Empoleon
Garchomp
Lucario
Weavile
Darkrai
Scrafty
Chandelure
Hydreigon
Meloetta
Braixen
Greninja
Aegislash
Malamar
Hawlucha
Deoxys (final boss)
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>>26892112

>no heracross
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>>26892124
Need to save some characters for DLC, like Hoopa, Plusle & Minun and Alakazam.
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>>26892112
Too many safe choices and not enough wildcards.

5/10, it's average.
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>>26865857
>Undefeated against ouroboro with his gard
>Will never make it past b4

I readily admit hes better than me but out of the 4 times ive faced him ive only lost once to his machamp.

I think its just strange
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>playing Garchomp when you can play Mewtwo
>playing Gengar when you can play Shadow Mewtwo
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>>26895603
>playing Pokken at all
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Code, anyone?
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What are you supposed to do with Garchomp's 8A? Seems pretty useless.
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>>26897495
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>>26897525
Do nothing unless you have Vic then?
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>>26897695
there are other ways to get crits aside from victini anon
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>>26897709
It feels like they have to try and grab you after you've started the animation for it.
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>>26898128
A little bit. It's typically matter of guessing when they're going to grab. You'll get crits a lot with more predictable opponents.

Besides crits, it's just one of Chomp's many options for messing with your opponents head. >>26897525 and I have done a few Chomp dittos and it's typically a 50/50 on committing to D.Rush in hopes they'll commit to Sand Tomb, or cancel and go for a grab in case they cancel into Stone Edge. It's as fun as it is nerve inducing.

tl;dr: Its usefulness will come down to how good your reads are.
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I was in a /v/ thread, and somebody mentioned

>Pokken has a system where any attack done from neutral (not from wakeup/after block) has an extra 6frames added to its startup frames.

Anybody have more details on this?

>>26888837
Gengar himself isn't bad, but he's not nearly as good as any other character

However, his mega/burst form is basically an instant win and turns him into a completely different character that's basically unstoppable.
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>>26899742
I vaguely remember something like that, check out one of the resources in the OP.
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An honest question, /ptg/.

If Pokken Tournament had launched with the average expected fighters (20 - 24), with at least 4 of them being chosen by the fans via polls to make sure it's what people want, along with one or two additional modes to have some variety. Then how much better do you think it would've performed by now? Would it have duplicated the sales? Have a healthier online playerbase? Have a better reputation or more hype surrounding it?
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>>26904321
I doubt any amount of characters would have helped Pokken. The main turn off is the game mechanics, not the amount of characters. You can only play rock, paper, scissors so many times before it starts getting boring.
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>>26904368
>main turn off is rps
>when the least fun characters in the game just so happen to be bullshit zoners who can break rps rules
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>>26904321
Probably not on roster size. People would still be whining that their favourite didn't get in. Honestly I don't understand the quantity over quality mindset. Just makes a new game a bit of a nightmare to learn match-ups wise.

Some extra modes might've helped out but I'm not really sure what they could add that they don't already have. Custom lobbies for online you can set the rules and stage for like in Single Battle, perhaps? Maybe a survival mode or something with an added chance of lucky bonuses or a boost to EXP for easy title and S.Lv grinds.

>>26904368
>there are people who don't like the rps system

But I always thought it was a fun way to implement the concept of type advantages into a fighting game. Not to mention it's not too different from what other fighting games already do. You just typically don't get bonus damage for punishing with a specific type of move in relation to another.
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>>26904321
Raichu still wouldn't be in the game, and Raichu being in the game wouldn't make it sell any better.
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Sceptile player here, I could use a few tips.

>Where do I put my skill points?
Currently dumping them in Synergy because Mega Sceptile is amazing but I have no idea if that's optimal.
>How do I fight Lucario?
His moves seem to easily eat mine. Luckily he's not common online but I want to improve the matchup.
>How do I fight Machamp?
Sceptile can't ranged spam and if Machamp closes the gap twice I'm dead. How does one dethrone the People's Champ?
>How do I fight Libre?
Haven't run into one since the nerfs were handed out but before that Libre was some touch of death shit. Its combos involve aerials and Sceptile's anti air game seems extremely mediocre.
>What are some good supports?
Early on I went with things that could clear status for use after Leaf Storm, but most rounds go without ever using Leaf Storm and the move frankly kind of sucks anyway. Then I just used Diglett like everyone else. I'm sure I can do better.
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>>26905186
>Where do I put my skill points?
Attack
>How do I fight Lucario?
traps
>How do I fight Machamp?
traps
>How do I fight Libre?
traps____________
>What are some good supports?
Cress
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>>26904321
It's doing better than SFV, and that's before any DLC was announced. I'd say Pokken is sitting pretty.
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>>26899742
Divekicks BTFO Mega Gengar.
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>>26892029
Those or NX has a Wii U eshop
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