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Previous Thread: >>26085539

Game download pre-patched and ready to go in english (No expansion, won't be translated for 2-7 months):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ynnmmo4k9noe0cr/%E5%B9%BB%E6%83%B3%E4%BA%BA%E5%BD%A2%E6%BC%94%E8%88%9E.rar

Expansion downloads (Not translated, japanese only): http://pastebin.com/99HRr1Vt

The game requires japanese language packs and your computer to be in japanese locale or emulated via Locale Emulator provided in the download. If you don't do this, numbers will be bugged or the game won't run at all:
https://mega.nz/#!q0lixKqI!n07oANzavBNSgGwWtm5Ezyuf9B0ifT36yi6Vmyi3kjo

Wiki: http://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Main_Page

Puppetdex with extra tools, have to download it and use a spreadsheet viewer (Has not yet been updated for the expansion):
http://www.mediafire.com/view/ozuu2sf3ovitzux/tpdp_PuppetDex_1.91.xlsx

FAQ, useful links and additional resources: http://pastebin.com/NyBVqHVy

Bridge matchmaking server, for easier time netplaying:
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=647.0
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>>26156916
>(No expansion, won't be translated for 2-7 months)
>tfw this is as valid now as it was when it was first said
>tfw it will still be valid 2-7 months from now
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>>26157285
It's dead and this general should be too.
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Reminder that Pokemon are stronger than puppets and that maybe 3 or 4 puppets tops would carve out any niche in OU if they were in Pokemon
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>>26157439
Reminder that puppets no sell everything but their own species.
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>>26157439
You're still wrong no matter how many times you repeat that.
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>>26157597
That's only relevant to that universe, there's nothing saying they're immune to beings from others.
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Why don't we ever have some kind of weekly tournament using the base game?
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>tfw no english patch
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>>26157439
1. pick random fe pokemon
2. pick random fe puppet
3. simulate a battle between them
4. repeat 10 times
5. realize puppets are stronger
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>>26159698
Do it yourself and see the truth.
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>>26161314
Won''t help much since i don't care about pokemons after genIII

anyway ill do it 5vs5 cuz 10 is hassle - don't say it, you just spewed nonsense without even trying to provide a proof.
Regirock vs power wriggle
Crawdaunt vs power sariel
Diancie vs power yorihime
Swanna vs speed lyrica
Scrafty vs Defense Koakuma

to be continued (unless you are willing to do it yourself)
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>>26161354
And if you're too lazy to do the mental theorycrafting yourself:

Regirock <<< Power Wriggle: Near 100% accuracy sleep + Mad Rush Stance + two 100% accuracy BP120 STAB moves is absurd, and she's only held back by a low BST and pretty bad defensive typing giving her a 4x weakness to steel. Regirock can't compare to that.
Crawdaunt =< Power Sariel: Power Sariel has very strong mixed offenses and a good speed stat while still being more durable than Crawdaunt, but Crawdaunt has Swords Dance + Adaptability + Aqua Jet, which is a disgusting combination against anything that doesn't resist water. I'm leaning towards Power Sariel here, but it's a very very close deal.

Diancie >>> Power Yorihime: Power Yorihime's nothing to sweat at, but Diancie's Mega-Evolution is ungodly overpowered (160/160/110 offenses on something with Magic Bounce is insane). Congrats on the RNG picking something in OU.

Swanna >>>>> Speed Lyrica: Swanna is so bad I actually had to look up the Smogon analysis to figure out what they did with it (the answer being "Defog user in PU"). Speed Lyrica is one of the weaker puppets out there and still is more potent thanks to having STAB on one of the best offensive types in the game (Nether) plus a passable ATK and base 115 speed.

So 4-1, 3-2 if you think Crawdaunt is better than Power Sariel.

Mind if I ask how you did it yourself? I'm willing to do the other five.
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>>26161501
Oh duh I forgot Scrafty vs Defense Koakuma.

Scrafty << Defense Koakuma: Koakuma has this on account of strong defensive stats, a set-up move in Brave Song to make her not set-up bait, and an incredible ability in Healing Power to enable her to recover from severe blows. Plus she can set up Genbu, which goes well with her base 30 speed stat.
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>>26161501
>>26161507
And I just realized that I accidentally had it so that Swanna >>>>> Speed Lyrica, when I meant it to be the other way around.

I should probably get some sleep.
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>>26161501
doesn't diancie has like, 4x weakness to steel?
anyway i used
https://www.random.org
to pick a random number from 0-316
if i get normal i just go to the expension dex and use the extra.
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>>26161560
I was comparing the Pokemon and Puppet's general viability to each other, not which one would actually win in a 1v1.

Under the latter question, Power Yorihime would probably atomize Diancie, but Scrafty would destroy Defense Koakuma thanks to the latter's Fighting weakness. So it would still be a 4-1 or 3-2 result in favor of puppets.
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>>26161560
Wait, just realized something.

Wouldn't that actually exclude all the expansion-only puppets like Sumireko and Hecatia though?
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>>26161636
yes it does
if you really must, you can add more to the number for the expension.
characters add *3 and now you can include latest puppets as well.
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Did the second set:

Ambipom vs Extra Renko
Farfetch'd vs Defense Meiling
Nidoqueen vs Extra Yukari
Gengar vs Speed Futo
Yveltal vs Assist Raiko

Ambipom < Extra Renko: Ambipom is best summed up by how the RU analysis's one set for it is named, and I am not making this up, "DON'T USE AMBIPOM"; while this is because Ambipom is much worse than another Pokemon in the same tier that is itself not very good, it does not paint him in a good light at all. Extra Renko may be the puppet equivalent to Shuckle, but her access to Bind Trap, her absurd defenses (40/205/205), and considering how Shuckle was banned from RU despite having a drastically worse typing than RenkoE...

Farfetch'd <<<<<<<<<<< Defense Meiling: Farfetch'd has a BST of 352. There are Normal style puppets with a BST of 350. Defense Meiling is kind of meh, but she's not Farfetch'd.

Nidoqueen < Extra Yukari: While Nidoqueen is much more dangerous than her stats would lead you to believe thanks to having Sheer Force for an ability and thus being able to run a Life Orb without the recoil drawback for some brutal damage output, Extra Yukari is a hard-hitting (125 ATK) Warp type with very solid defenses (100/95/85) and still packing a passable base 95 speed stat, while also having the puppet equivalent of Unaware as an ability choice. It's actually pretty close (which shows how a good ability can more than compensate for a middling stat distribution), but I'm leaning towards Extra Yukari here.

Gengar ? Speed Futo: This is a really big one and the specifics would take a long time to discuss, but the short of it is that Gengar would be better if you counted for it it's Mega Evolution but otherwise would be considered worse than FutoS. Gengar may be the only Pokemon to be OU in every generation and lives up to the hype, but FutoS is really disgusting in what she can do.

Yveltal < Assist Raiko: Yveltal does not have hands to play drums with and thus is inferior to Raiko by default.
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>>26161767
conclusion - puppets > pokemons
as if it wasn't obvious.
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>>26161767
when 4 gods assistance come with startegist, does the power double due to terrain happens after or before startegist bonus?
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>>26161923
Before, so it would only be BP120 rather than BP180.

>>26161876
As I've said, most puppets are clustered in the UU-RU range of quality, rather than how in Pokemon the power level is drastically more uneven; a very significant amount of Pokemon sit in NU or PU, far more than exist in OU, Ubers, or AG.

It's almost like Game Freak is really bad at balancing, and that, as much as I still like it, Smogon's tiering system is nowhere near enough to compensate for the fundamental balancing issues GF introduces in.

God I want to snuggle Raiko so badly.
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DLRuukoto, JKSanae, Latios, VIVIT, EMarisa and Kasen when?
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>>26161992
>Latios
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>>26162001
That was the final team that Hemo had in purple. All missignos of course.
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>>26161876
Don't you mean not surprising
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>>26162079
Kogasa is incapable of surprising me anymore, stop trying
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>>26162011
and how could it enter the tohoverse as a puppet, plot wise?
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>>26162127
Hemo appears to wreck your shit. He breaks the 4th wall and does a 5 battle 30vs6 like he did on Purple.
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>>26162153
purple was a pokemon hack, it didn't need to make sense. i think he will try to be coherent in his own game.
like saying 'yukari did it' or 'eirins new drug' or even 'its magic!'.
or combine it all- yukari brought lati@s from pokemon, a drug of eirin turned it into a puppet, shinki magic multplied it and sent it into the wild.
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>>26162179
I still want some real challenge. The 30vs6 match was fun as fuck and I didn't expect I get nothing for it.

I'm still missing the Lati@s counterpart in purple, because Hemo catched it and it doesn't appear in the game anymore. Got 2hu, Sariel, Kongara, Kiguri, XTenshi and I'm not sure which other legendaries I'm missing.
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>>26162431
saw that one coming from a mile away
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>>26162450
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>>26162475
God, it's surprising how something like this can actually make me feel sad and sympathetic for a fictional character.
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>>26162475
Post more Kogasa suffering.
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>>26163183
No
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>>26162811
Fuck I just realized what I did

Why can't I delete the post
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>>26163183
You are a terrible person and should be beaten by Raiko until you learn your lesson.
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from posting a very lewd preview of a H-doujin with hecatia to a cute t-shirt design? Hemo is a wild one.
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>>26165125
>he doesn't know about Hemo's evil twin Goburin
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>>26165229
it's gurobin
get it right
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>>26164636
Actually, why can't I delete the post?
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Rip thread
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>>26164636
Thanks for the meal, nerd.

Anybody want to play?
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>tfw no puppets
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>>26161767
>implying that a BST680 uber is worse than what you're comparing it to because it can't play the drums

What
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>>26165609
too much time has passed

>>26168649
It's called 'the waifu effect'; don't even try.
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>>26168649
>not being able to take a joke

It's kind of obvious that Yveltal is stronger than RaikoA, no denying that.

But the whole point of this was proving that on average, a randomly chosen Pokemon would be worse than a randomly chosen puppet; even being as biased towards the Pokemon as possible still is only a 5-5 record; a more neutral POV would put it at a 6-4 or 7-3 record, and an 8-2 if one considers Gengar to be worse than FutoS. And of the two that are clear-cut decisions in favor of the Pokemon, one of them has access to a Mega-Evolution (a mechanic that has no equivalent in TPDP) and the other is a BST 680 version mascot Uber (again, there's nothing on that caliber of strength in TPDP)

Yes, you could if the RNG rolled right get a set of 10 matchups in which the Pokemon side won 10-0, but such a result would be less likely than a 0-10 in favor of the puppets.
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>>26169762
>higher-end of Pokemon is stronger than TPDP
>puppets would be more likely to win on average

Your skewed math is showing
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>>26169787
I see nothing wrong with it.
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>>26169801
How do you see nothing wrong with the bias towards puppets?
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>>26169817
look, if only few pokemons are stronger than puppets than its obvious that most of the time puppets would win. so objectively speaking puppets are stronger, no bias here.
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>tfw no english patch
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>>26170555
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>>26169826
Name a puppet that can keep up with Ubers first.

I do like TPDP and will admit that the puppets win out in the cute department.
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>>26170984
a puppet? not a team?
anyway, yes, puppets will have problems in the ubers. but they win out the rest of the pokemons.
also im not competitive, but speed sanae is up there
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>>26170984
The thing with Ubers is that the stuff in the tier was almost always designed to be really overpowered compared to the normal Pokemon, and balance never really went into consideration when making them. So you end up with the issue of little kids wanting to use their awesome box legendary but being disappointed when it's banned from most tournaments and whatever battle facilities are in that game.

TPDP doesn't have anything of that level of power save for the upgraded dream fragment, which requires you to beat the battle tower equivalent (good luck with that) and can't be used online anyways.

So no, there is no puppet comparable in strength to Mewtwo, Kyogre, Arceus, or the like (although depending on the Uber it's possible for one of the strongest puppets to be able to put up a good fight/win against it, like how the strongest stuff in OU can somewhat keep up with what the Uber tier holds). But that's a deliberate design choice, not a fundamental flaw of TPDP.
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i wish i had a sumireko puppet so that i could bully it
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Does using a stall team count as bullying?
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>>26174808
If by bullying yourself, then yes
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>>26175004
Why would I be bullying myself with a stall team
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>>26174808
>Implying you can stall in touhoumon
The game is designed to fuck stall.
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Post a moveset
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>>26176285
Assist tewi @ quick eye
small bit
64hp / 33fo def/ 33spdef
lightning speed
stealth trap
prank
first aid treatment
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>>26176508
i like your style
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>>26156916
Sill haven't beaten Mokou maybe I should just go farm for some new puppets
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>>26176969
Get one of them style changed.
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Honest question: is SukunaD actually worth using even with her ability?
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>>26177058

She's literally top tier.
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>>26170555

I'm too old to learn a new language.
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>>26177058
A better question: Is there a reason to NOT use Sukuna?
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>>26177138
How small is the actual Sukuna anyways
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>>26177138
Being homosexual?
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>>26177277
Even if you are homosexual that doesn't stop you from finding her cute
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>>26177210
Small enough.
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>>26177026
Changing chen to a speed type was really helpful even tho Mokou still cost me half of puppets
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>>26177550
I mean in comparison to a regular person
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>>26177744
Small. Enough.
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>>26177792
Small enough for what?
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>>26177911
Small enough to love you.
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>tfw no english patch
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>>26178546
>come back to thread
>find this

Are you trying to kill me with cute overdose
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How viable is Byakuren in this
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>>26180151
She's shit, total garbage. Better get a different waifu.
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>>26180759
Repent, heathen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh-oDu7DGkE
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>>26180759
You are a terrible person.

What about Youmu and Yuyuko?
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>>26161354
>Raiko anon dislike new gens and don't care about new pokemon
You lost my respect.
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>>26181084
I'm the one who made that post and im not raikofag.
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>Raiko anon has not even cleared 50-Tower

What a nerd. Post teams.
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>>26181191
Why do I keep forgetting my pics?
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>>26181177
Leave it, he just want another way to try and troll this general (since the pokemons are stronger than tohos one was obviously a failure). Using a trump reaction image should have given you a hint.
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>>26181084
That wasn't me. Even Gen 6 had me still like all the Pokemon introduced (like I did with every previous generation) and the new mechanics (Mega-Evolutions, fairy type, trying to balance things a bit more than previously even if I hated the Special Attack nerfs). What killed Gen 6 for me were how the actual games just weren't very good and how GF ditched the third version that probably would have salvaged XY like how Platinum salvaged DP in favor of just jumping straight to Gen 7.

I replied there because I wanted to actually do the analysis of the matchups myself, and then did the second five myself out of interest in the topic.

Just for fun, here's another set of 5:

Blastoise v Power Merlin
Crobat v Power Hatate
Dunsparce v Power Yuugi
Laitas v Power Elly
Volbeat v Power Rumia

I was half-tempted to reroll this because literally every single roll was a Power stance, but RNG is RNG at times. Feel free to discuss if you want
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>>26171954
Add ZPuppets. There, Ubers mean nothing anymore.
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>>26181366
How overpowered were ZPuppets
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>>26181366
>including something from unofficial hacks
>not just using the upgraded Dream Fragment to turn any puppet you want into a Uber-destroying killing machine
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>>26181375
990 BST everywhere. ZSanae has Wonder Guard. Mokou becomes viable. Reimu has no weakness. Flandre can 6-0 any uber team. Yuyuko and Kaguya can permastall no matter what.

Is either that, or the missigno mons that Hemo created in Purple.
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>>26181384
That means they have to run an item, but the mon itself is not an Uber tier.
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>>26181392
No, you forgot the ridiculous part.

ZSanae had Wonder Guard and 180/180/180 defenses. Literal waifu bias.
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>>26181191
Here's a team for ya.
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>>26181077
Youmu's aight but a dork, Yuyuko is poo.
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>>26181410
I don't think you understand how ridiculous the Dream Fragment can get (represented here by a +2 stat change) [remember puppet EVs are different from Pokemon EVs and that is reflected here]

252+ Atk Primal Groudon Precipice Blades vs. +2 0 HP / 0 Def RenkoS: 258-304 (91.8 - 108.1%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

+2 64+ SpA RenkoS Arclight vs. 104 HP / 96 SpD Primal Groudon: 357-420 (97.2 - 114.4%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

Without Rock Polish, Primal Groudon is outsped and probably 1-shot by RenkoS. And that's assuming RenkoS doesn't invest in any bulk or speed at all, and she still has 66 points to distribute there as she wants.
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>>26181191
>tfw waiting for english patch so I can move on to the expansion
;_;
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>>26181392
I don't think it was Hemo who made the hacks with z puppets.
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>>26182819
It wasn't.
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>>26181806
You are poo and a dork!
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Are we insulting 2hus now?

Good, I can finally say that Renko deserves to be teased.
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>>26185124
no, only sumireko and youmu do because they are complete dorks
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>>26185124
Why didn't the spoiler tag work, I wanted it to make it look like I wanted Raiko to be teased
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>>26156916
Is this fun?
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>>26185668
yes
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>>26185668
Yes. Worth giving a shot at any rate; it's a really comfy game.
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>>26185174
how about i tele slap your mom, hoe
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>>26185668
Depends, do you like the idea of being bullied by the red miko bitch?
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http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/nitpickzone/

I knew I made the right choice when I decided to never play these.
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>>26186283
>implying anyone's going to read all that
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>>26187357
I-I did.

It was fun.
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>>26186283
God, I'm glad those weren't my first exposure to Touhou-based Pokemon stuff, otherwise I'd probably have dismissed TPDP out of sheer recoiling horror.
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>tfw no english patch
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>tfw you have 0 idea on how to make a team at all in this

How do I build a team without BST 600 dragons, bulky as fuck steel types, and ultra powerful event legendaries?
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>>26189984
Build with characters that you like. Just keep an even spread of typings and stances.
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>>26185668
its worth giving a shot if you don't mind tempering a bit with locale.
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>>26190047
1. What if I care more about winning than about using my favorites? I mean full-bore Smogon-style team building
2. Why is Nitori in a cup
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>>26190364
That would then require logical thinking with which puppets may synergize well with others. The three mischievous fairies are noticeable in this if I recall.
Think about this in a smogon mind-like state. Such as if your team is weak to... Say, wind types, then put a Nazrin on your team and set up something like Stealth Trap.
There isn't such a website to help you on this besides the most used puppets I think, but the game gives you all the applications to help you on this trek.

And Nitori is in a cup because Nitori can be in a cup. There's not much reason for it, but there's not much reason against it.
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>>26190395
Yes, but I suck ass at it. In Pokemon I could compensate by just using the most overpowered things and still be able to do okay, but here everything is close enough to each other in power for that to not really work.
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>>26190364
1. a true smogon fag will have more fun coming up with good new sets for new mons. but if you want victories, there is no other choice here but getting good... or playing some unbalanced game like pokemon. the reason pokemon isn't balanced yet is because GF know people like you play their games. (and not because they can't)
2. it's kisume, she just want you to believe she is nitori.
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>>26190452
I don't mind helping you build a competitive team in an attempt to git gud. For a small loan of a million dollars, of course.
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>>26189984
Why do you post this every thread?
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>>26190477
>loan
the thing with loans, you end up returning much more than you took. ask the banks for more details.

>>26190452
well, you could go for the blitz course, i.e use poke- err puppets that are both powerfull and fast.
http://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Puppetdex
you can even have them arranged by stats!
well, looking a bit you might want to try
speed gengetsu, speed tojiko, speed yorihime and speed kagerou
you can add 2 more puppets after experiancing with this team a bit and realizing your weaknesses
gangetsu would be available the most late, so she should be your starter.
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>>26190585
It's a risk I'm willing to take.
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>mfw i realized just now sakuya alt costume is ruukoto
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Can this run on my toaster of a laptop?
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>>26191313
i have a computer from... 2002??? wait no way its that old. anyway it 1.60ghz cpu and 0.99 gb RAM and it slows down in paces with fog and like. how toaster is your toaster?
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>>26191346
Can't play snes games online and is completely uncapable of processing any video above 720p without cuts.
Also, it can't play those shitty half-flash ero games without exploding.
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>>26191371
>half flash ero games
what does it mean half-flash?
anyway yeah it sounds like my own laptop. cant play ds games, but i can play snes games after downloading the rom. don't you have another computer in the house?
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>>26190585
Unless you invest the loan and pay the it with part of that income, in the end you will pay more...but not with your money.
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>>26191410
if the invest succeeds. if not you are in an even bigger debt.
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>>26191410
>>26191441
That's why I said it's a risk I'm willing to take.
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>>26191387
There was another but it was just as toaster as this one and it's currently down. Motherboard is in intensive care.

>what does it mean half-flash?
There are some erogames that really look like they were animated in flash but they were clearly programmed without it.
Crackle Cradle comes to mind, but that's more ryouna.
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>>26191450
ryona is still a h-game you know
what about fromage, violated heroine or puchidan?
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>>26191450
sucks to be a poorfag. i guess for now you can only play touhoumon on vba. i reccomend touhoumon purple.
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>>26191466
No idea. I started downloading mine on an impulse so I never took the time to look for recommendations.
Fromage looks cute.

>>26191472
What's the one in the OP, though?
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>>26191489
>What's the one in the OP, though?
tpdp
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>>26191446
its not a risk tough, you either have a solid investment plan or you don't. do people bangee jump without checking if they are properly tied first? same with investments- if you checked, if you bothered to research, its either a good investment or it isn't.
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>>26186283
I'm fucking dead.
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>>26191441
That is a risk worthy of take, unlike the normal bullshit of changing time of your life for a set pay.
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>>26193154
Don't look down on working class men; without them, all investments would end in failure.
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>>26193296
I don't look them down, hell, i am one of them, but i don't want to work like that until i retired.
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>>26192520
What a radical Regi
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Anybody feel like playing?

http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=647.0

A friend of mine just gifted Dark souls but I get notifications if you invite me, so I'll leave it open.
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>>26194390
Are we going to play base or the expansion?
I only have the base game.
even then I still have to go home and get it set up.
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>>26194447
I only play the base game, translation is too important for me to go without.

It's okay, I have time. How much time are we talking about?
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>>26193493
I live in my mom's basement; welcome to the franchise.
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>>26194475
I'm back home now, give me a couple of minutes if you're still willing to play.
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>>26194775
I'm ready when you are.
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>>26194489
Where I live, living with your parents after 18 years old is not a stigma, hell, is something normal to three generations to live in the same house.
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>>26195460
Mexico?
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>>26195460
where does this move out when you're 18 meme even come from? unless you're making some serious bank before you get out of high school or your parents are helping you, chances are you're not going to be able to move out on your own. shit's expensive

also puppets
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>>26195504
>where does this move out when you're 18 meme even come from?
America.
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Well that was some nice, fun matches. Now if only we could make some people interested in some kind of weekly tournament thing like I suggested.
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>>26195824
I just don't feel like fixing my pre-expansion team or grinding up my post-expansion team.
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>>26196240
I-I understand.
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>>26196257
And even if I did do those things I'd be too scared to actually ever start a match with anyone
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>>26196319
But that's like one of the biggest appeals to Pokemon.
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>>26196349
Wonder Trade is about as far as I can go with strangers without physically dying.
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>tfw you realize just how fucked the OU tier of Pokemon would be against puppets

What the hell would you do against Nether types being unresisted by all Pokemon types, Smash Spin being unblockable entry hazard removal, Warp types basically eating the OU tier alive (Steel and Flying being weak to it + it being immune to flying and steel resistant would be a major issue), Stall dying in a fire thanks to stuff like the Weakness status and the Byakko terrain effect, and the top-end puppets being horrific in what they could do (SanaeS would just run ramshod over the tier thanks to having Earth type moves that ignore immunity for one example)
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>>26196461
That's easy.

Use puppets.
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>>26196454
How are you even able to post on 4chan then? It sounds like some serious anxiety or something.

>>26196461
>Weakness will never be an actual status
>Byakko terrain will never be an actual terrain effect
It's fucking suffering.
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>>26196495
Do you want stall to die?
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>>26196461
TPDP Showdown when?
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>>26196526
One of the main reasons why I like puppets more than Pokemon is because I don't enjoy stall.
That's also why I like Little Cup since it is hyper offensive. Also baby Pokemon are cute.
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>>26196461
No puppet even resists dragon. Spam outrage. Or make a baton pass team. Or use Shedinja who can only be hurt by two puppet types. Or use actually good weather inducers for much stronger weather types. Or stall while having an aromatheraphy user in your team along with anyone with access to substitute. Or use something that survives Sanae who only has 95 speed and meh stats overall and whose ability doesn't trump levitate (for instance, Rotom-W who makes its way into many teams).

You aren't very smart if you think those were issues. Fuck Rotom-Wash
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>>26196495
It's really only fighting games where things get unbearably bad for me (especially with spectators). I have never actually tried Pokemon battles against someone online but I feel like it would end up almost as bad as that.

>>26196732
>No puppet even resists dragon.

Well, technically Puppets naturally resist everything Pokemon has, since only Puppets can hurt Puppets.
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>>26196851
Try battling at least once and see how it goes.
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>>26196732
>no puppet resists dragon
>there are steel types in TPDP

If you hate Rotom-W, how do you feel about Assist Raiko
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Guys. I want to bully Sukuna. What should I do
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>>26186283
>kogasa is the first enemy
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>>26197735
Bully her and fulfill your dreams, anon.
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>>26198889
Did it surprise you?
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>>26196851
I could be your first time if you wanted. I'll be gentle
But seriously, you could try, no one would watch and you could even ask for the other player to keep the replays private. Maybe you'd even find it fun.
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>tfw you spent so much time in this thread you dreamt you battled puppets with Pokemon
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>>26195460
tell that to my sister. she decided country life is boring and is trying to strike it big in the city.
She works while i live on social warfere. i'm the one who sends her money tough. she still unwilling to come back, the idiot.
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>>26196461
nether is resisted by light tough.
defog could remove entry hazards no problem as well.
steel and dragon type ware worse.
status effect is just a status effect, it can be removed via moves like therapy and rest.
use a terrain other than byako. terrain wars!
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>tfw no english patch
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>>26200717
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>>26195504
USA and several first world countries, but USA above all.
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>>26196851
If puppets can only hurt puppets, what would happen if you wished upon Jirachi to have harm happen to a puppet (sort of like Doom Desire)?

Or had Ditto/Mew/Smeargle transform into a puppet?

Or used Celebi/Dialga/Arceus to travel back in time and prevent puppets from ever existing?

Or PP-stalled one out to the point of them struggling themselves out?

What are puppets made out of to be so indestructible anyways, neutronium?
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>>26201944
>Or used Celebi/Dialga/Arceus to travel back in time and prevent puppets from ever existing?
so, mystic square over again?

>What are puppets made out of to be so indestructible anyways?
busty fairies
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>>26202210
puppets aren't made of fairies
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>>26201944
A more important question:

What is Sukuna saying in your picture? What is she contemplating?
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>>26202265
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1667439

blessed be danbooru and it;s translation tags. (its more fun reading it hovering on the picture)
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Zero Mokou when? We need Mokou to be viable at least.

>she is shit in TPDP
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>>26203869
Extra and speed are good. S has enough Spread that she can invest fully into speed and still be damaging only held back by being monotype. E has wish equivalent with 130 HP and okay defenses and sp attack. Her new typing is better and she gets some trap moves (unsure if they're actually good here but just saying there's those and perish song). And her ability can be a free strae doll or heal in the anti stall terrian.
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>>26202222
They are, though.
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>>26205004
they aren't
if you're referring to that one picture hemo drew where shinki "explains" how she created the puppets, then she was lying
yumeko even says so herself
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>>26203869
I'm gonna get two mokous just to prove you wrong.
will take a while tough cause im that lazy.
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>>26205106
Why did Shinki make the puppets anyways?
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>>26205409
The official reason is that she wanted more cute things in the world.
The fun reason is that Alice didn't want to play the "mommy's little girl" anymore and Shinki wanted to fill the void.
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>>26205538
You're serious?

She literally did it for cute?
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>>26205555
It's what I would do.
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>>26205555
Yes. Also nice quads.
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>>26205591
im bringing cute back
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>>26205623
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>>26205648
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>>26205672
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>>26202851
>>26205623
Stop making me fall in love with her
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>>26205623
Lacks smug.
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>>26205733
go get yourself a waifu before she steals your heart
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>>26205858
>resolution
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>>26205892
Was most likely a sample image from a Booru.
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>>26205902
Saving samples saves both space and time.
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>>26206047
It triggers me quite a bit.
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>>26206047
But the quality is worse.
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>>26206047
It also makes your pics look like shit.
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>>26206047
Saying that with a Seija picture makes it look like you're lying, you know that.
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Where can I find Reisen puppets? I want to beat them up.
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>>26208388
Bamboo Forest of the Lost.
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>>26200172
Oh for reference, I fielded a team of all Ubers.

My opponent fielded a team of puppets using that upgraded dream fragment.

I lost.
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>>26208901
>losing to puppets with Ubers

What, did FishE sweep half your team by herself or something?
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>>26208901
Ubers are not banned, dream fragment is.
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>>26209641
Is there an option to allow using it, or is it more banned than Mega-Rayquaza?
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>>26209887
Game won't allow it no matter what. It's there to help you grind.
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So what's the goal of TPDP
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>>26211070
cute
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>>26211070
The guy that created the touhoumon hacks wanted to take his hack to the next level and turn it into a full game. It helps he can draw too.
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>>26211070
To catch puppets, use the caught puppets to fight other puppet users as you travel across Gensokyo, fighting the Puppet Liberation Force and attempting to find out why Puppets are appearing all over Gensokyo.
That's basically the entire plot of the game.
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>>26211342
Spoiler: the reason is because Shinki made them so there would be more cute.

TPDP does not have a grimdark serious story.
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>>26211440
I was trying to avoid spoilers
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>>26211456
It was already mentioned earlier in this thread.
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>>26211461
I-I know
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>>26209966
Note that getting it is post-post-game only and still requires a massive amount of effort; it's really just a for-fun thing. "Ok you won, now your waifu is unstoppable forever"
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Are you guys making a team BASED on your waifu- like, are you seeking her relationships and add puppets that are friends with her and the like?
For example a mokou based team would have okou, keine, kaguya, sumireko and futo.
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>>26214214
>okou
fuck typo, i meant mokou
there is absolutly no connection between mokou and okou.
weird no?
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>>26214214
What if I told you that I based my team around characters that I would consider sister-tier instead?
Except Nitori. Nitori is mah waifu.
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>>26214214
At first my theme was just 2hus I really like (with some minor changes because too many of them ended up being the same type)

Then I went full gimmick team and made it 6 different styles of the best 2hu.
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>no one in here plays the expansion
>not even competitive
Fucking shitters I swear.
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>>26214400
I don't even play the game itself i just like to talk about tohos.
Have you checked iosys latest album?
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>>26214400
I played the expansion a while ago, though.
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>>26214400
I want to play the expansion, I REALLY do. But I'd rather wait for the EVENTUAL ENGLISH PATCH FUCK.
But I'm always up for some matches if I see the opportunity.
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>>26214451
>But I'd rather wait for the EVENTUAL ENGLISH PATCH FUCK.

So you never want to play the expansion?
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>>26214487
I STILL HAVE HOPE.
no I don't
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>>26214492
just play it untranslated, even if you don't know any japanese it's not that hard
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>>26214707
>playing pokemon using abilities you don't know and moves you don't understand
errr.... no.
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>>26214400
>playing an expansion that adds shitty types, (mostly) bad characters and waifufag pandering as well as an easy mode item for casuals

Sorry, I'll be here playing my objectively superior game without Sumireko.
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>>26214795
I never tought about it that way
thank god i didn't spend my time anticipating such a big disappointment

more content to the base game, like fighting flandre, would be nice tough.
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>>26214400
Almost no one here even plays it, double doubles, we had what? Two people who did in the weekend?
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>>26214795
>waifufag pandering
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>>26214400
if it at least had an interface patch i'd be bothered to finish it, i don't know enough moon to make a competitive team
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which puppet is the best at bullying sumireko?
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>>26218188
none
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>>26218188
What is the best way to bully Renko
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>>26218753
Use Upbeat so she can't set up, that will ruin her day.
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>>26218833
Please stop reminding me of how RenkoS managed to make permaweather actually not worth going after

That's bullying me
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>>26218753
Bully Sumireko until she hangs herself, Renko is never born and there's the plus that you're bravely eliminating a threat to my gensokyo.
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>>26219211
>my
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