Too weak edition. Old thread >>25845778
SPMD .cia http://pastebin.com/uR5bKJkw
Check the guides at >>>/vg/hbg if you don't know how to install the game. You won't lose any online feature or anything doing so, don't worry. You will be able to do everything that you'd normally be able to and much more.
Blue, Sky, and an emulator (now comes with rom editor so you can have custom starters): https://mega.nz/#!TUEBhRQY!mfpcugVQp_aVbNVNDoJjElo3c__57V0s6O45ftnMSHQ
/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-
Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA
Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
REMINDER: If you need a rescue, post your region. Due to a few things that make no sense, rescues are region locked. It's shitty, but be sure to mention if you're European or American. If you use the .cia in this post, your region should be listed as American.
>>25855762
First fordid you actually generate a Magikarp/Feebas combination just to make this terrible joke?
>>25855782
I saved that pic like a year ago, someone else did it.
I challenge somebody to play with this duo, and make it all the way.
ready for some extra salty tears?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBgpQJtPgYg
0:00-Grovyle's parting speech
0:25-Grovyle begins slowly pushing Dusknoir into the portal
0:49-One last tear before Grovyle enters the portal and it closes
0:52-PC and partner are left alone to mourn Grovyle's sacrifice
>>25855820
>events of the game end
>years later the future trio take the passage of time to visit PC and friends
>>25855820
I'm pretty sure this is the song that plays during that scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxEBYYHmV4Y
>>25855844
If only.
>>25855849
your point?
>>25855849the future mons and the past mons eventually end up in the same time, if SMD is to be believed
>>25855858
Sorry, I thought you were trying to make me reimagine the scene exactly.
>>25855860
Yeah, it's good to know that they really do end up being okayI'm only kinda upset that Dusknoir is still a dick.
>>25855868
re imagine with more feels than before
I wanna rescue ppl so let me know if someone needs rescuing
>>25855873
if i wipe in zero isle i'll let you know
>>25855762
Reposting Wooper's portraits in the new thread in case anyone wants to try em' out.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/m8qfd77s3tam08w/PMD_Indexed_Wooper_m_Portraits.rar
>>25855905
Recommending people play through as a Wooper starter, it's a lot of fun with that moveset, those abilities, and IQ skills
>>25855969
Don't forget to evolve!
>>25855986
>evolving wooperi really like Quagsire but nothing beats Wooper
>>25855997
I don't really like NFEs, and I try to evolve as soon as possible unless I'm going for specific moves
>>25856009
>and I try to evolve as soon as possible
i mean if it was the main games i would, but that +5 to stats isn't much.that and cutemons are the best
so, what can I do now? after beating the game and claiming an apprentice to corrupt, what more can I do?
>>25856019
Gotta recruit 'em all!Also you aren't a true explorer without clearing Zero isle south
>>25856016
i love the idea of being these adorable little cutemons but secretly we're FUCKING GODS with 255/999 stats
>>25856038
>>25856054
w-what have you done?!
>>25856038
And that's just one reason i like pmd. Cutemons are the best, and you only need a little bit more work to make them just as, if not better than an evolved mon
>>25856019
You only graduated though, that doesn't count as beating the game. You got a lot more to go
>>25856054
SEE WHAT WHOOPA CAN DO FOR YOU?! WHOOPA IS STRONG!
>>25856110
Everything about pmd wooper just raises questions, like how it throws anything or gets anything out of a treasure bag without arms
>>25856054
so.....anyone going to make a similar god poke out of Espanon?
>>25856060
Jirachi boosted his stats to 255. Now Wooper is unkillable, you can't even bring grass types to help.
>tfw recovering 3-4 hp per step
I fucked up preparing for this dungeon, but we're all good.
So, how exactly does the game decide if you get Hoopa or Hoopa-Unbound? Is it random?
>>25856507
It's random
Hard time continuing with SMD now that I have MH4U?
Is SMD a tearjerker like the others?
>>25857031
>4U
Whew lad, you're like 6 months too late to be on that bandwagon.
>Is SMD a tearjerker?
For me? Not even in the slightest. It might be on subsequent playthroughs, but the ending is a confusing plot dump the first time and that gets in the way of having a good cry.
SMD is worth playing all the way through though. Great game, 10/10, game of the year.
I just beat Red Rescue Team for the first time. What I learned in boating school today is
>bullet seed is OP as FUCK, at least during the story parts. I don't know about postgame.
>The ending doesn't hurt as bad the second time (This is my second PMD game)but it still hurts
Also, it seems like Sky Tower is the most popular song, but mmmm I don't know mang I can't get enough of Great Canyon. One of the few songs I can listen to the extended version of on YouTube. Even when I heard the remix in SMD, my first PMD game, I knew it was good shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prDOCQW0ZrU
Jam out for a bit, dudes.
>>25857031
At least finish the story in SMD because it only takes around 20 hours to complete. People seem really divided on the ending. Like >>25857053 said, it's kind of a confusing mess of plot holes when you sit back and think about it, but it really depends on what kind of person you are and what you value in stories in my opinion. Some people just can't let their emotions take over when faced with a lack of logic. Others let their emotions take control. I feel like SMD will either be a weak to mediocre ending to most, but for a select few, I think it might be the most effective. This is coming from someone who's only beaten two PMD games though.
>>25857156
you haven't truly beaten it until you've done every postgame dungeon
>>25857156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GuYenWfB_4&nohtml5=False
This the Blue Rescue team version of Great Canyon. It sounds slightly different.
>>25857176
Are you referring to RRT, SMD, or both?
>>25857332
Every game really
>>25857031Are you gud at least?
>check last thread
Well that was a disaster. But hey, now I've finally got the time to replay RRT and get a good look at the story post-PSMD. This naming part is already a problem though.
>>25857156
Gotta prefer Great Canyon over Sky Tower too. Pretty good song.And yeah, I'm one of those people in the former category. There was potential for feels in the ending, but the poor story structure just broke it for me. I've got no problem with emotions, but not when it's used to ignore any bad logic in the story.
>>25857697
I usually give the PC my name and name everyone else after their species because that's what all the normal Pokémon NPCs do.
Prevents me from spending hours thinking up names.
come to think of it
why don't we see more named pokemon in the main series anyway
are the devs just too lazy to name all of the trainer's pokemon? couldn't they just name some of them? does it take up too much space to have like 1000 names? i wouldn't think so, cause that'd only be a few kilobytes of information
>>25857970
Well there are a few such as Zinnia's Whismur Aster.
>>25857834
I was going to start naming the partner, but I think I'm just going to follow your advice this time and save me the trouble. My name sticks out like a sore thumb and I don't really like seeing it, so I name MCs everything but my name.
>partner just somehow has a house decorated after your type that he never uses
>upon deciding to become a rescue team on the spot without telling anyone, all of the tools of the trade show up in the mailbox the next day
Yeah okay sure.
Playing through EoS's post-game and found Team Raider on the beach while looking for bottles.
Who is the leader of Team Raider anyway?
>>25857970
I guess Game Freak's just lazy, which comes as no surprise to anyone.
Also wow is Rescue Team no joke, throwing Rock- and Steel- types at me as early as the third dungeon.
>>25858035
manipulated by destiny
i just realized you basically show up out of nowhere, take over their life/adventure team, and then take their house
>>25858547
I mean it's not like I meant to take their house, there's tons of room for another bed.
>partner asks if I plan on returning to the human world any time soon
>"eh not really"
>this replyTHIS DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT. I TAKE IT BACK, WAKE ME UP.
>>25858598
I'm still mad about rescue team not having the partner stay your partner after main game
it's mainly what's stopping me from playing it again
Does the Connection Orb system get less obnoxious and linear over time? I really hate being handed powerful Pokemon like that. My partner and I are like level 13-15 yet I've got all of the ACT, Salamence and more.
>>25859293
Nope. You can kind of get around the linearity by fighting against or talking with more Pokemon to open up more options, but everything's recruited in a generally set sequence. Don't worry too much about the powerful recruits, since you'll barely get to use them during the story dungeons you're forced into and they take breaks for days after one use.
>>25859293
Dpn't worry, Anon. It doesn't matter. You'll never use those Pokemon anyhow
What level should I be before going to Sand Dune of Spirits to find Xatu in SMD?
Currently a lvl 26 Chespin
>>25860163
That's the level I was. You're good.
>>25860163
I honestly don't know - I skipped most of the "Go alone" dungeons with sticksand I took Hoopa with me
>>25860163
Is it the same Xatu from Rescue Team?Is the Xatu from Explorers the same one?
>>25860237
I'm assuming so, these games seem to stick to the "only one personality per cameo pokemon" rule
>>25860370
No, i think diglett and pelipper go against this
>>25860370
Wigglytuff?
>>25860524
The one in Explorers acts very similarly to the one in Rescue Team. He even distributed friend areas.
>>25860421
What's the difference between Diglett in RT and Explorers?
>>25860781
In RT he's a minor character you rescue early on. You probably remember the "my feet feel like they're walking on air..." "feet?" "he has them? feet?" conversation, and if not, diglett feet mystery dungeon pulls up a screencap.
In Explorers, he's one of the minor members of the guild. He helps identify footprints with Loudred, and he and his dad both update the job boards every day.
>>25860868
And here's the screencap from RT in question.
I'm kind of amused it's been searched enough times to become an auto-result for Google.
>>25860868
Well, yeah, that's all I remember about Diglett. Considering Dugtrio in Explorers and Rescue Team are absurdly similar, though, I wouldn't be surprised if the Digletts were one and the same.
I swear I've got the right theme this time
this is One Punch Man right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtXjsh3qS8I
I fucked up again didn't I?
I have the first rescue team on gba somewhere, would you guys recommend I find my gba and play that or is it okay to start on one of the more recent ones.
>>25861501
if it still saves, go for it.
>>25861333
oh hey trips
what cruel fates await me up ahead?
>>25861884
where have I seen this before? forgetting the images once more
>>25861898
I'm NOT the villain!
I'm the guy who's a hero for fun!
>>25858615
Your partner stops being your partner after the main game?
Do they just completely lose their identity and become another nameless member of their species?
>>25862337
Exactly
>>25862337yes
>>25862359
>>25862364
Wow. What a colossal fuck up.
>>25862337
yep. Once you evolve, you also lose your portraits too.I evolved my Totodile the first time i played Red. It was the last time i used Totodile//evolved in PMD
>>25862386
Hell, even Pokemon WITH story portraits don't have them. Charizard and Blastoise both have story portraits in Rescue Team, while if you evolve your starters if you started with Charmander and Squirtle you get jack shit.
>>25862435
no, i could have sworn I saw portraits when using alakazam
>>25862446
Zam gets portraits, it appears if you finish an exploration with him. But still, lack of portraits was only one reason I totally dropped evolving my starters
>>25862446
Some definitely have portraits, like Groudon or Rayquaza. It's just a damn shame that CHARIZARD and BLASTOISE, of all Pokemon, don't get portraits after finishing a mission.
If it takes a kilobyte to store each portrait, and each pokemon got 16 for the full starter range of emotions, it should only take 12 megabytes to store portraits for all 721 pokemon, it seems the bottleneck here is the devs not wanting to paint them all
>>25862572
How about if you ignore legendaries?
>>25862572
I don't see anything wrong with that. Why would they need to make emotion portraits for Pokémon that don't appear in the story, aren't starter choices, and only have their portraits appear when you talk to them where they say one line? They didn't do it Rescue Team, they didn't do it in Explorers, they didn't do it in Gates, and all those games had less Pokémon in them than Super. They're not gonna start doing it any time soon.
>>25862631
so we can have every single pokémon as a starter
>>25857970
The only time there's been nicknames in the game is with overworld NPCs and usually their Pokemon in their houses.
>>25862656
If only. Man, that would be crazy. Obviously Spike Chunsoft cares more about Pokémon than Gamefreak so I don't think putting in extra work is beyond them, but talk like that is still a fantasy to me.
>>25862656
I don't see every pokemon happening, shit like basically all first stage bugs/magikarp/feebas would be unplayable in story. But we need more starter choices, running through with 2 of only 5 different types of starters kills replayability, especially since 2 of those 5 types have 1 pokemon each
>>25862572
>>25862631
Well, hey. We can add them now. I'd say we should go on until we make them all!
>>25862728
If we could go back to a 2D format, that'd be great. Gamefreak's future-proof models be damned, we could do so much more with sprites, and it would be easier to implement player-created content.
>>25863042
I wonder what Super would've been like if they went with super updated 2D everything
Would it look sort of like Black/White?
>>25855905
Are there more pokemon with portrait sheets?
>>25855860
I always thought that the future pokemon world branched out into an alternate timeline
>>25863073
I think they could do that, but I'd prefer full 2D.
There's more than one smile worth protecting.
>>25863042
>>25863073
Maybe? It's hard to say for sure.
Personally I wouldn't mind going back to 2D, if mainly because it takes less effort and doesn't make things drag on for a long time. 3D is okay, but between needing the occasional special animation for the models, having to script out and "film" the cutscenes, so on and so forth, I'm not sure how much the game actually benefited. It was a lot of nice spectacle, but most of it really felt unnecessary.The scene where the partner is jumping to chase the Tree of Life in particular felt really hamfisted.
It's a pipe dream to expect the next PMD to be 2D only, as much as I hate to say it, but I really do wish they'd go back to the old pixelart/sprties style.
>>25863556
>that scene
I liked it by itself, but my problem with it was that it's just the Bahamut scene from Advent Children and I couldn't take it seriously. Super aped a lot of games, but I can't believe they'd pick Advent Children of all things.
>>25863556
>having to script out and "film" the cutscenes
huh? I don't think that's a problem in any way you know. Actually, maybe they even made it easier now that they use lua and just need to rotate the models, but I'm not sure about this.
>>25863556
>It's a pipe dream to expect the next PMD to be 2D only, as much as I hate to say it, but I really do wish they'd go back to the old pixelart/sprties style.
I don't know Anon, I actually think it might happen one day. I'm not sure how though.
I mean they did it with the other MD games.
>>25863556
Now that they have the 3D models, it will actually take them less time than spriting, I don't think they will go back to 2D.
>>25863624
Granted, I don't have much experience working with 3D stuff like cameras and camera movement, and so on and so forth, but there's no denying that it's more work than setting 2D sprites up to move around on a 2D background, occasionally interspersed by a balloon icon or emote, a change in lighting, and/or a cut to some pixelart.
>>25863698
Well, except for the few detailed animations they basically just rotate the models, so I wouldn't be so sure.
>>25863698
Until you need to start making animations. Frame by frame spriting is more time consuming that camera work and animating a properly done 3D model.
Thankfully for Chunsoft the sprites were pretty small in the 2D games.
>>25863257
I've only made Wooper so far, but I hope to do some more at some point.
>>25863945
you should do>Espanon>No not Espeon, specifically sprites that would be used by Espanon herself
>>25863945
you should do mareep, and it's not just because i'm a greedy piece of shit asking for portraits for both his starters.
>>25864166
How about we cut it out with this tired and boring shit
>>25864166
>specifically sprites that would be used by Espanon herself
>They're all smug but in different backgrounds and lighting
the time has come... my evolution draws near!
>>25864645
>Smug or licking lips
>>25864660
>Bueno.jpg
>>25864652
a few sliverwinds and im on my way
>>25864673
>hoppip uses silver wind
>because it weighs nothing it gets blown halfway across the world from a few uses
Why did they use 3D models in SMD, the animations are so stiff it ruins any effect that the cut scenes might have
>>25864652
so if we changed these pokemon including Darkrai
what pokemon would they be if it wasAbsol taking revenge on you for killing Espanon
in smd, if I've justgotten out of the voidlands, how much do I have left before I beat the game?
>>25864738
Just keep going, Anon. You'll know
>>25864725
nah, it would be Umbreon taking revenge
Absol would be Dusknoirwho would be redeemed later on and brought back to the light
heres a cool new member
>>25864738You've got one normal dungeon, I believe? (It's a huge pain in the ass to boot), then another "give the player extra party members because we can't into level curve" dungeon, and then the final "tower" stretch.
>>25864844
>Quilfish
I'm confused
>>25864859
i picked him up a while back. hes a pretty cool poke and he rounds out my team pretty good
>>25864493
it will get boring on it's own, just wait for it to pass over
>>25864845
Cool, thanks for the info.
I really haven't enjoyed the dungeons where they expand my party to ridiculous sizes.Having all 3 legendary beasts in my party was the tipping point
>>25864723
As opposed to 2D models that also don't move? I'm not seeing the difference.
>>25863945
How about giving the mid-evolution starters expressions?
>>25864882
>hating fun
I love those sections. Did you get unlucky and have them die off screen or something?
>>25864895
No the dungeon was relatively easy, I'm just not huge of having a large party I have very little control over
>>25864844
here comes a good move
>>25864725
>>25864813
no, I think it would be Umbreon as Dusknoir
because whenDusknoir betrays Primal Dialga, Dialga starts kicking the shit out of himwhich I would not do if it was Absol
OR Dusknoir could be my new apprentice LuxerisAbsol could be the Manectric in their safe havenand Umbreon is still Darkria
>>25864927
>slugma goes from not too good to overpowered
Oh fuck
>>25864940
Have you taught your apprentice about the Rule of Two
>>25865070
There can only be one master, and one apprentice?
>>25865082
Precisely
No more. No less
>>25865088
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.in espanon's case, literally
>>25864927
the conditions have been met
>>25865132
Are you playing Time/Darkness?
>>25865159
sky
>>25865132
All you had to do was waste a few days and you would have gotten told you can evolve eventually
>>25865182
oh... well i was gonna recruit every pokemon eventually so no harm done
>>25865196
You might want to max Hoppip's IQ, Nature Gifter is great
>>25865220
ive been working on it but im only at 2.5 stars
>>25865234
You might want to get a ton of trash for Prism Tickets, you can very rarely get an IQ Booster from it, something you normally need Guildmaster Rank for.
Is it possible to get Kyurem-Black and Kyurem-White in SMD?
So did I miss some sort of window of opportunity, or is the boss room for the seven treasures in Sky not guaranteed to appear? Really don't feel like running through Sky Stairway 50 times.
>>25865278
yes
>>25865281
can't do it on a mission, you need to enter without a mission in the dungeon
>>25865303
Okay, thanks. Gonna run a smaller treasure dungeon without a mission. I already got one, and I didn't know what I was doing differently.
>>25865088
Well Absol is my lover
and Lucario/Luxeris is my apprentice.... but then what about Umbreon? she was.... actually once my apprentice
although I should probably add Umbreon into the lore from after I killed Pikachu... but how? when I claimed her last time it was "N-notice me sensei~" and then evolve to Umbreon.... how can I fix that?
>>25865367
You must have your current apprentice strike down your old apprentice. She was weak. Of course you see this or you would've never got a new apprentice
Which would then cause Umbreon to go into hiding, swearing to strike you down for this betrayal and having a broken heartbut unable to do so because she still loves her sempai
And then something something very long and drawn out battle between Umbreon and Lucario
>>25865451
or, Umbreon would be Grovyle?
>>25863548
>the one at the top right corner attached to the board
L-LEWD BLUSHING
>>25864895
i was still mad at them for shit talking me and my partner so i purposefully shoved them into situations that killed them
>>25865451
>>25865461
so here's what we have once more
Dusknoir is Lucario/Luxeris who is loyal to Espanon
Grovyle is Umbreon who came to the past to stop Espanon's rule
later in the special episodeLucario regains her sanity and returns to the light only to be attacked by Espanon for it (replaced Primal Dialga)Umbreon, Lucario, and Celebi go to take her down once and for alland Darkai is Absol who wants revenge like before
>>25865132
on my way to gummi town
>>25865641
>>25865568
I think this could work out alright
but what else can I do right now with my Apprentice?
>>25865881
You must teach your apprentice everything you know, and one day they will surpass you, and continue the cycle with an apprentice of their own
>>25865904
or they could be Darth Vader and ultimately betray and kill you in the end
>>25866077
But they would need someone to be the voice of reason. Someone who would be able to reach into the light deep within that Lucario
>>25866099
>Umbreon survives the encouter
>Goes to the past to try and stop Espanon
>Lucario is sent in place of Dusknoir
>Later Umbreon aids Lucario to bring her back to the light
>BOTH Apprentices fight to defeat Espanon in their corrupt future
>>25866128
>Lucario wants to kill Espanon and end it all
>Umbreon also has the same idealsbut doesn't have the heart to do it>Says that Espanon deserves a fair trial>Lucario doesn't see it that way, and that keeping her alive will only spell more chaos>AnakincutsWindu'shandandPalpatinetosseshimouthewindow.gif
>>25866234
but Anon, that'stoo early in the seriesthat's when Lucario first becomes Espanon's apprenticenot when they defeat her
>>25866287
But thenwho was Windu?
>>25866328UmbreonUnlike Windu, she survives and returns, taking the place of Grovyle in the story, and Lucario takes Dusknoir's place
>>25866328non-espanon espeon
>>25866234
>>25866328
Anon, you know this had to be donehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_DqV1xdf-Y
Why do I now what a PMD Sky edit with Espanon taking over the future? Why do you people keep doing this?
>>25866700
hey don't look at me, i'm just recruiting and saving pokemonand thoroughly punishing outlaws
the time has come
>>25866924
>that portrait
alright time to reroll
>>25866992
gonna chill as a skiploom till i get my skiploom item
Where are we going?
>>25867054
skiploom swap item acquired
>>25867419
Zero Isle North, better get ready
>>25867715Thief? I just wanted to take a closer look, but i tripped and this seed fell in my mouth.
>>25867729
wait, why was that post deleted?
I'm pretty sure using Unburden Ominous Wind once in an outlaw's Monster House violates several laws.
>>25867773
I fucked up, the pic wasn't the one i meant to post. Mainly because i already had the gold ribbons in said pic and i said four instead of five. So I just deleted it.
>>25867785
oh I thought it was another rogue janitor, there seems to be one going around deleting a few posts that don't clearly break rules
>killed a Lickilicky with an Oren Berry
Never done that before
If someone were to make a PMD hack, what wouldn't you want to see in a story or what Pokemon wouldn't you want to see as a villain (either for being edgy or whatever)?
>>25868066
The following are all shit that'd make me not touch it:
>fakemons
>genies being prevalent in the story at all
>blood
>OC donut steels
>really anything in pic related
Probably more i can think of, but not offhand
>>25868066
Mewtwo as final boss? like, it's so obvious anyways, but it works
>>25868066
i don't want to know how the main game world ties in, i just want the pokemon/pmd world to be standalone
>>25868119
Why not the genies? I'm pretty sure there's some good story potential that could go along with them.
Unless you don't like them design-wise.
>>25868173I hate everything about them and i'm glad all they got in SMD was a single island for all three of them, not even a battle arena floor or anything.
>>25868119
>Full of sadness...
Someone really misunderstood the source of the sad parts of PMD.
Say, anon.Would you stay or leave if you were transported into the PMD-verse?
>>25868190
not that anon, butI'd stay
>>25868190
stay for sure
i don't want to be in this reality anymore
>>25868190>passing up what are essentially superpowers
>>25868205
>>25868214
>>25868216
What if everyone home was aware of your choice?
What would they say?
Surely you must know someone thatloves you
Would you guys bring anyone if you could?Like someone anonymous.
And what would you do with those that refuse to come with you?
>>25868240not really, no, I don't have that much hope leftstill have enough to get through the day though
>>25868240
who cares about people in real life and what they think of where i go
id bring someone if i could but my only friend who i used to "would trust with my life" doesnt really reciprocate my feelings and its basically all my fault so i have nobody who i could really want to start a team with
im sick of having to constantly do stuffi dont want to do just to survive in this shitty society
>>25868119
The genies did nothing wrong
>>25868240wouldn't really affect my choice, don't talk to many people irl to begin with
>>25868258
Anon, let me lay it out like this.
The PMDverse is a world where there's a world-ending crisis often.
Creatures become feral and lose all sense of reason - and this isn't a minority, this is the vast majority. The majority that lives in dungeons.
Creatures that often require that outsiders come and make them regain their sense of hope for the future - as otherwise they leave powerless, maybe even meaningless lives.
It's a world with infinitely many outlaws and limited do-gooders, and only a minority of them believe there's good in everyone.
What makes you people think that, as you are, you'd be part of the bunch that would simply never ever give up and be happy in spite of all hopelessness?
>>25868315
don't talk to me or my team ever again
>>25868325
come to think of it that's basically the setting of dark souls
>>25868347
PMD is basically the Dark Souls of Pokémon.
>>25868359
>the Dark Souls of X
don't do that
>>25868382:^)
>>25868066
Not just to spite the other guy, but I do think the genies could have a minor story arc.
For example, Thundurus and Tornadus fucking up with the weather again, berry crops failing and desperately needing Landorus.
>>25868325
>Creatures become feral and lose all sense of reason - and this isn't a minority, this is the vast majority. The majority that lives in dungeons.Think about the countless exploration teams that got lost in a dungeon and went full feral. What if going feral is not always reversible.
>>25868382
>>25868347
>>25868359
Point is, you're more likely to be Dusknoir than Grovyle.
Perhaps giving up the future out of fear of your own life being more precious than the future you could build.
More likely to be Munna or Scrafty than Hydreigon.
More likely to be Gengar than Alakazam.
Except you may not even be relevant to the world's next upcoming crisis.
>>25868240
Clearly, the correct option is to bring your family, if you have one that would miss you.
>>25868433
I know this is 4chan, but you can't just assume everyone here hates themselves. I want to be the Pokémon because the games make it look like the best thing ever, tragedies aside.
>>25868461
Hmm. Would you really want them to go through a literal world crisis every now and then in exchange for basically superpowers that may just be useless on the grand scheme of things?
>>25868464
I know not everyone hates themselves - but none of these characters had to hate themselves to fall into what they became.With the exception being Gengar.
Is there a pokemon that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Drifblim? Let alone defeat him? And I’m not talking about Aftermath Drifblim. I’m not talking item holding Drifblim either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Ominous Wind Drifblim. I'm talking about Drifblim with the Minimize buffs and Unburden (with no held item and being capable of both Astonish and Shadow Ball), equipped with his Breeze Scarf, an Easy Charm, control of the IQ Skills and Quick Striker, with stat drinks implanted in him so he has 255 in all stats and can perform Ominous Wind spam while being an expert in floating and using Gust.
>>25868503
>Ominous Wind
>Minimize
>Gust
>Astonish
>Shadow Ball
You fucking blew it.
>>25868848
fuck, i'll fix it next time
>>25868848
It brought a Shadow Ball TM into the dungeon, and used it after minimize spam
>>25869009
>After the Minimize spam
Unless Minimize works differently to EVERY OTHER stat increasing move in the game, the bonuses dissipate after moving up a floor.
>>25869021
it's a one floor deal
>playing SMD
>want to use varied teams
>inevitably just bring MC+Partner+Random Third Pokemon
Is this the right way to play? Will I regret doing groups that exclude one or both of them?
>SMD doesn't allow you to name recruited pokemon
L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y for what purpose?
>>25869131
Because you don't recruit into your team, you make "friends" with their own "lives" that might even tell you that they do not want to evolve.
The connection orb was a mistake.
>>25869137
>The connection orb was a mistake
I think the connection orb was one of the biggest improvements to the series.
It just would have been nice to name my recruits, thinly veiled excuse for lack of features be damned.
i want more games that import your save from previous games and shit happens in reaction to things you've done
do you think that would be nice in the next pmd?
>>25869159
The connection orb both trivializes recruiting and hinders it by only being able to get one of each pokemon, apart gender dimorphism and formes. With no naming, not always being available and often not being made to evolve (on top of evolution not giving a stat boost anymore), it's doesn't feel like you're actually recruiting them.
Why the fuck should I care about generic shitmon's problems and then have it pad the already overinflated pokemon list just so I can get to whatever mon I want.
>>25869180
The connection orb gives a sense of direction and progression in the post game via the connection system without diminishing your sense of exploration. It avoids the frustration of recruiting pokemon without simply handing them to you on a silver platter. If you want your Empoleon, you have to clear the relevant quests to unlock your Empoleon. But once you do, there's no ambiguity about whether or not Empoleon will join you.
You always have a steady supply of new missions and can hoard missions for a single dungeon instead of hoping and praying to get multiple missions to stack up for one dungeon.
You only need to recruit one of each pokemon with shared EXP. Unless they revert EXP gain to be party-specific, this is a fine system.
It'd be better if you could name pokemon, if evolutions still gave stat bonuses, and if they made the break system less temperamental, but all things considered it's vastly superior to the job boards of previous games.
>>25869229
Here's how you fix the connection orb:
>Make this an optional way of recruiting stuff, so people dont have to play 100+ hours just to get a favorite
>have randomly generated missions thrown into it, under a different section, replacing the Mission Boards from previous games
>have said random missions give items
>have more ranks, so that you don't just hit max rank by doing recruit missions
>allow naming of recruits again, friends call eachother by nicknames all the time anyways
>>25869180
Look, I liked recruiting Pokemon and naming them and all that shit. Pokemon were almost like farming for rare loot drops, only the Pokemon was the loot. Taking this aspect out is a little disappointing, but aside from it not making sense in SMD (You and your partner are a part of the expedition society, not a stand alone rescue team formed by themselves) the connection orb makes getting all the Pokemon a feasible task that still requires plenty of dedication.
Like, I see the complaint, but the connection orb just seems like the most logical way to go for the game with 700+ Pokemon.IT JUST WORKS
>>25869229
> It avoids the frustration of recruiting pokemon without simply handing them to you on a silver platter
Do some shitmon mission, recruit it and it's friends, also shitmons
> If you want your Empoleon, you have to clear the relevant quests to unlock your Empoleon
Nothing wrong with that, but I'd rather do it by doing quest until I have access to the dungeon where Empoleon is recruitable.
Even then I would rather recruit a Piplup and evolve it, I prefer that sort of progression.
>You always have a steady supply of new missions
There's a set amount of missions, and they aren't even random.
>You only need to recruit one of each pokemon with shared EXP.
How is this at all relevant?
what ever happened tom/m fenne snivy anon?
are you still there? that thing you were working on looked really promising
>>25869304
Here's the thing, I only care about a small subset of those 700. The rest is just filler and enemy encounters.
>playing Time for the first time
>think the game is over
>all dat post-game content + story arcs
So comfy. Was kinda sad when I evolved, got the highest rank, and the game was truly over.
>>25869431
>evolving
>implying max rank is the end
You aren't truly done until you've beatev every dungeon and recruited everything
>>25869336
No, I feel u there mang. I'm not saying it's perfect, but hardly a "mistake." And I mean, it's not like it doesn't take time to get to whatever Pokemon you like in the other games. And you have to recruit them too, which COULD take a while.
I think it works well, but if it returns in the next game, I hope it evolves a bit. I'd be okay with the original style coming back too, but I think it might also need changes to accommodate for so many Pokemon.
>>25869229
>It avoids the frustration of recruiting pokemon without simply handing them to you on a silver platter.
He said, ignoring the numerous missions that give you anywhere from three to five Pokemon, often highly powerful, through easy missions. Whiscash is an example I point out often, and it's not the only mission of the lot that's incredibly simple yet gives you a massive reward for no reason. There's no satisfaction there. If anything, it's frustrating for the opposite reasons, you're constantly being given a bunch of Pokemon for little to no effort. Combined with being unable to nickname them and the game enforcing the whole "this is a character, they have a personality" thing no matter how thin it is, and I never got excited for recruiting anything, even if it was a Pokemon I actually wanted to use.
Similarly, even though you have a steady supply of missions, they do eventually run out, and you'd be surprised at the amount of players that play just for the missions. Sky keeps me coming back because of the steady supply of jobs that I can do on the bus or in a car or during a break. By comparison, I stopped playing the story mode in Super after a while because I was sick of it, and Pelipper Island doesn't have enough impact to draw me back.
Shared EXP I have no problem with, but Super was made by bad designers who make bad level curves. Gates had shared EXP and it was fine, right?
Also, this might just be me, but the connection orb in general is a huge pain in the ass to navigate, whether you're exploring the web of connections or just using the menu. It's too damn slow and clunky, and it really feels unpolished. The orb in general feels like they had an idea, but weren't able to finish it all in time, sort of like how the whole game feels.
Sad fact is, even though the job board did an much better job at "connecting" you to the worlds the games were set in, >>25869304 is right in that now that we're 700+ Pokemon, it's prob the only logical option.
Hey Wooper portrait guy, i went on pixiv and someone uploaded those portraits there
jumpluff has all his swap items now not counting the dust
>>25869331
I'm here!Sorry, classes and laziness have gotten the best of me. The original picture is kind of finished enough to post, but I'm not going to yet because I'd rather post something that I really tried with. I mean, I've already invested hours into it with mspaint of all things, so at this point I'm thinking I'd like to just go all out and make a series of images.
One reason I'd like to do that, aside from actually kind of enjoying it, is because the current image, the one I've teased, really feels more cute than uh, you know. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but if i'm going to be drawing lewd, I'd like to make it so that it's 'good enough to use' because I don't think people save porn just because it's cute.I don't have classes tomorrow or the rest of the weekend, so I'm going to try and get some done.
Sorry for that borderline blog post, but at least the threads are usually pretty quiet around this time anyway.
Also,>that thing you were working on looked really promisingThank you, anon. That really makes me feel more motivated to work on it. I wish I had more to share at the moment.
>>25869560
>I don't think people save porn just because it's cute
I object, and cite my entire porn folder
due to a need for a map surveyor and stair sensor i have swapped out qwilfish from the main roster for carvanha. i will be evolving him later on
I kinda wish maybe emera abilities would rub off on your pokemon if you gained enough exp in a dungeon, and then the effects would stick to you for a few dungeons, like maybe 3 to 7
that would incentivize equipping the same emeras to the same pokemon every time so they keep their emera iq abilities, and just remembering to recharge your emera abilities every once in a while, you know what i mean
How do you add custom portraits to the game?
>>25869639
You use this tool (PPMD KaoUtil) found on this thread:
https://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?40199-Pokemon-Mystery-Dungeon-2-Psy_commando-s-Tools-and-research-notes
>>25869620
>not taking wooper
>>25869620
>>25869639
made a quick guide on how to insert portraits with sky editor since it's been asked a bit
http://pastebin.com/GzLZZ0Sg
>>25870035
Nice
>>25869560
I'd save porn if it was cute!I don't like sex but...
>>25869506
You can just wonder mail any pokemon you want in the old games, anon. Plus, even if you don't have access to wonder mail, going into a dungeon with an amber tear/friend bow takes no time at all to recruit whatever you want.
>>25869431
Have you gotten the 7 legendary treasures? Completed Zero Isle? The final maze of the marowak dojo? Recruited all the legendaries? There's a shitton of things left to do anon.
>replaying Red Rescue Team
>Gengar and co. show up and immediately reveal that they want WORLD DOMINATION
>they proceed to steal all of the E-Rank requests in my mailbox for whatever pitiful funds they reward, even though there are probably better-paying jobs out there
>on top of it all their team name is MEANIES
This team couldn't be more obviously evil if they tried. I don't know who's worse, Team Meanies or Team Skull.
As a Chespin / Fennekin combo, are there any TMS we should buy from Coffaragus? Or do I just dump all my gold bars on roids?
>>25871247
Roids
Heat Wave you can just talk to luchaburd about
Just assassinated Regigigas, Chespin 2 strong
>He hit Tyranitar for 939
>Marine Resort
>two pages of gummis
>turned into one page after a grime trap
>>25872917
.... do cleanse orbs fix grimy food? I know they fix sticky items but
>>25873025
I didn't have one on me to try, but I happen to run into a secret bazaar on the same trip, and when I tried to get Lickilicky to clean my items he said that there weren't any that needed to be cleaned.
>>25873025
Nope, since grimy food is a separate item, it doesn't count.
>>25869761
no offense to wooper of course its a great poke and it would fit with the gen2 theme but i chose against it since there was already a wooper guy in this general
>>25869859
ty
>>25869859
beautiful
now Lucario and Weavile
best buddiesnothing but platonic relationship too
>>25856996
That's pretty damn cute.
>>25872917
>tfw trap seer
>>25874250
>tfw IQ group C
I guess I'll just make Drifblim the leader for everything from now on.
