Ominous Wind spam edition. Old thread >>25823889
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First for, I have no idea how I did it, but I added more portraits to Lucario
Second for i found 7 secret stairs on Sky Peak and all of them were Secret Rooms
>>25834331
in fact it added more to every single pokemon.... so, does anyone have any more pictures for Lucario to use? I've already got them in, any more?
![1459819128785[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/aZkmnt7.gif "1459819128785[1].gif")
>>25834340
these are the ones I've used
if there are no more than these I guess I'll just finally start
yeah I'd say a tornado is just about one of the most ominous things out there
>>25834480
>tfw crippling fear of tornados
>Tfw have to re-do Temporal Tower every time you lose to the boss
I llike to imagine that the only reason it's so difficult is becausethe protagonist doesn't want to continue on with what is essentially suicide, and delays fixing the future as much as they can because of it.
>>25834510
i completely forgot that steel is kind of a hard type to go up against
ive been cubone and fire partner for so long
we suck ass at water dungeons though
maybe farm some sleepy seeds or something?
you'll have to do hidden land again though if you go back
>>25834415
I'll take that as a no
TIME TO DO THIS
>>25834510
>tfw never got to experience the horror because Riolu's Force Palm paralyzed it on the first turn and it only took two more to kill it
Kinda feels bad, actually. I didn't even hear the full theme. I thought there was gonna be a second phase or something.
>>25834567
I just packed X-Eye seeds. Between Force Palm and Flamethrower, we pretty much coasted on through it.
I ALMOST GOT THEM ALL!
>>25834529
well fuck me, for some reason it just froze when it game me the results of the test
>>25834700
don't give up!
I hope Espanon hasn't corrupted her yet.
Who here's ready to die?
>>25834782
ok, it seemed to be a problem when it came to the partner, but for some reason it froze while it gave me my pokemon instead
now, what's Weavile's name?
>>25834510
>>25834526
>he doesn't hit bosses for absurd damage despite bad type matchups
>>25834834
would totally like a name for my Female Weavile partnerI-I swear we'll just be platonic
>>25834918
Hm, a Weavile, huh. One that you'll havecompletely platonic relations with, huh?
Well, I'm no good at names
But what about Kat?
My trip to Sky Peak ended in 0 Secret Bazaars. Out of Eyedrop Seeds, I take the only remaining option. Wish me luck.
>>25834935
Noted
>>25834794
>Kira
named your Absol Kira?.....c-can I use that name for my Weavile?
>>25834964
Yep, and sure.
>>25834700
I think the problem is that these sprites have too many colours. I'm trying to fix the smiling Lucario one, do you want to try it?
>>25835020
probably, also I've just noticed, some of these sprites are blank for some reason..... even though in the editor it shows them
>>25835020
>>25835027
well for now, just gonna start posting
I think this is the right theme yes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIvncWqDMpA
>>25835076
also yeah. pretty sure this isn't suppose to happen
>>25835076
Riolu and Lucario have the most ridiculous idle and walking animations in EotS
>>25835156
Lucario's is pretty much the same through ALL media, Anime, this game, even Pokken his running is kind of like Naruto, just having your arms pointing out like that
although I see more Sonic's running
>>25835145
ok.... creepy
I'd would really like this fixed soon, not sure I can keep looking at these
>>25835171
The only time I've ever seen him not run that way was Super Mystery Dungeon, which I'm actually happy about... if it didn't look so goofy. Like, just swing your armsfrom side to side c'monand run like a normal doggo, Lucario, it's not that hard.
>>25835181
aww, but that's one of Lucario's special character traitsmakes him look more and more like an Anime character, which he really is at this point
he's practically Goku
>>25835181
It is certainly a "special" doggo
>>25835179
oh oops, this is what I mean, it's actually much more creepy than the last one
>only 1 reviver seed found
>only 2 max elixers
>only like 3 or 4 vitamins found
I miss being carried by items
>>25835207
maybe it's because they need to be 16 colors only?
>>25835197
no bully
>>25835223
I never really saw much of a difference between Lucario and Riolu.... well, someone said they were fixing them up, hopefully that will help
shit, I can't fit in SONIC HEROES!
damnit
>>25835270
Anpanman?
Tamago?
Saikou?
Catdog?Team Yiff?
>>25835308
..... YES!
>>25835209
i'm scared, i haven't found a single Max Elixir in a long time
getting real fucking sick of this shit
>>25835181
I hate Lucario's run animation in Super. I'd prefer his "arms behind back" or, hell, give him Zoroarks run animation, instead of what we gotHis Mega evolution run animation is even worse
PLOT
TWIST
>tfw I'm 35 points from the next rank and storage is 10 items short of full
>>25835387
It's goofy, but self inserting as a lucario I'd probably run like a dumb fuck as I try to evade death.
>>25835331
oh, and let's just sit back, and time a good long look at Lucario's level up moves>Espanon be damned
>>25835396
>chatot literally witnesses you two get stranger dangered right in front of his eyeballs
>still doesn't believe you when you say you almost died for 3 fucking days in future hell with no food and minimal water when you come back looking like shit
>>25835451
He was just testing you! He knew all along!
Had to break into my Joy Seeds, got 4 levels like that.
Thank you Rampardos, for giving your life to restore my PP.
>>25835451
Plus hiding from everyone you love in the trip back
>>25835440
>bone rush
welp GG game over
>get confused
>out of every direction i can take, take the one where i lose my evasion
>eat warp seed
>warp back into the monster house i just ran away from
The run was fucked to begin with, the only reason i got that far was because of Drifblim. Using it still doesn't guarantee anything, you can just get fucked over by items anyways.i'm trying again, i NEED those specs
>>25835331
isn't she so adorable?
she actually has emotion portraits, unlike everything else
it actually works out great for me
>inventory full
>storage full
>>25835538
aahhhhhh I hate forgetting an image
>>25835540
at this point i just started throwing away excess berries and shit
coincidentally this is also where i ran out of storage space as well
>>25835522
Now this right here is what i want to see on floor 1
>>25835553
But muh autism.
I want to recycle 'em.
>Dark Pulse hits wallghosts
Praise the Emperor.
>>25835020
so.... how's the edits going? watch all of them just be 17 colors, just one off
>>25835179
>>25835207
>>25835646
Here it is. It uses 16 colours, I'm going to check again though.
Would it be a problem if it had less than 16? I guess not, but I'll ask anyway just to be sure.
GET REKT
>>25835681
what if you saved them as indexed? that would make sure they're 16 colors
>>25835681
huh, no idea, keep up the good work though, we'll see how this one works out next time I get a save point and came change out the sprites, but pretty much every single one of those that I used are buggy
it's too bad, I kind of like them
>>25835713
>>25835717
I changed 16 colours to another one manually and nothing was left, so yes, they're 16. Are you going to test them now? If it works I'll do to the other ones tomorrow.
>>25835681
>>25835713
yeah it's got 16
i don't know how these sprites work, like what file format is best or anything
is there documentation about it?
>>25835737
....how? how can I test them? especially the grin...
... or perhaps, the beginning personallity test? is that what the game uses? the grin sprite? well I'll try it
>>25835747
https://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?40199-Pokemon-Mystery-Dungeon-2-Psy_commando-s-Tools-and-research-notes
>It supports exporting and importing these image formats:
>4 bits per pixel bitmap("*.bmp") files.
>4 bits per pixel png files.
>raw tiled 4 bits per pixel pixels + RIFF palette.
>>25835775
that guy REALLY FUCKING LOVES poochyenai wonder how much poochyena porn he has
Yes yes, that's obviously the case.
>>25835832
she really needs to stop fucking around and just act on her goddamn feelings
literally everything goes fucking wrong when you don't just fucking DO THE THING
>>25835853
Imagine how much time has passed in between Explorers and PSMD.
Imagine all the time that P. Celebi spent toying with Grovyle for his affection, sending him to rescue her in low level dungeons.
>>25835681
so, question..... is this suppose to be the grin? what's the sprite for this one?
>>25835871
that's the perfect tactic to use if you want to get dumped before you even date, you don't want to be in a situation where people just PUT UP with you, you want, like, mutual understanding and reciprocal feelings
>>25835880
Yep. Slot 2, grin.
>>25835880
no sorry, I meant to post image of it fucking up again
>>25835887
>>25835889
sorry about that, but is that personality portrait for the quiz suppose to be grin? or maybe it's the excited one? not sure, I'll go back and test more
>>25835889
yeah, it uses the grin, so the file still doesn't work
>>25835889
>>25835916
Yeah, it's grin. So it doesn't work?
Maybe the problem now is
>4 bits per pixel png files
>>25835923
how exactly does that work?
>>25835923
I extracted the default picture maybe it will help in some way?
>>25835681
>>25835946
>2 KB
>655 B
one this these doesn't belong
>>25835923
>>25835930
Wait, I have a better idea.
>>25835930
All you need to do is convert them to 4bpp using something like GIMP or IrfanView and import them with Sky Editor.
None of the images in this thread will work because all of 4chan's images are 24bpp.
does anyone know what determines if a wurmple will evolve into a cascoon or silcoon in pmd? specifically sky
>>25835994
I think it's randomly determined when it evolves
>>25835989
hmm, so GIMP basically downsizes them?
>>25836005
alright thank you ill just have to reset until i get what i want
>>25835989
Is that the one from >>25834415?
>>25836006
Sort of. The final image should be about 700 bytes.
>>25836015
Yeah, that's it.
>>25836028
welp, we'll see how it goes
>>25836028
Well, that's 16 colours already. So basically all >>25835681 needs now is to be 4bpp?
>>25836058
Yes, that should be all.
>>25836067
so how would I go about making it into 4bpp in GIMP?
There is no Tight Belt/Goggle Specs here
>enter dungeon
>first room is a monster house
wew lad
>>25836097there are Goggle Specs here
>>25836082
Image > Mode > Indexed
Set the maximum number of colors to 16 and convert and export
>3 shops on floors 91-98
>no Tight Belt
I'm convinced they just straight up don't exist. Between this and cart, I've found literally every item in the game but the Tight Belt
>>25836116
I think we got em, let's just check
although I wish I could still use sprites for ALL slots, but none have been made, so what can ya do?
>>25835953
the proper one is indexed
>>25836162
>>25836214
we got em
>>25836254
Yay!
Some of them are fine as they are apparently, I'm checking them right now. I'll let you know.
>>25836254
did shinx get a haircut? he looks different somehow
>>25836263
I made a list of Lucario and Riolu
know anyone who could create the rest?
oh I forgot the default Lucario because that one doesn't matter
Hee-heee
>>25836286
eh, I fixed it anyways
>>25834415
so who exactly made this?
>>25836369
"FatefulSprites" on deviantART apparently
>>25836384
I suppose we're not getting any more sprite to be honest
oh well, back to being Over powered Lucario in PMD Sky
in the morning, I'm tired
>get to the end ofworld tree
>there's an actualenormous chest you can open with treasure inside
nice
turns out hoppip can learn silver wind
>>25836723
oh fuck
Why the fuck do my team members die from alliances? They take damage from every hit when I do alliances to AVOID damage.
Is sky just the remade version of explorers of time/darkness? Like platinum is to diamond and pearl?
If so, i've already got Time, is Sky that different? Iv had a glance online and Sky is like twenty quid lol
>>25837416
That's right. I say stick with Time, but maybe download a completed save and emulate the Special Episodes.
I'm sorry I didn't finish the picture tonight. Now I'm working on coloring it and trying out different shading methods. But I'm using mspaint and mouse so sorry if it's none too pretty yet.now I feel asleep
>>25836445
>>25836303
I think they should work
I already converted them: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=08893036426730856495
Are any of you bad enough dudes to rescue me fromthe 87th floor of zero isle south?please I have a pass scarf ;o;
>>25838079
Forgot password.
>>25837416
Don't listen to the other guy, Sky fixes so much in Time/Darkness it's not funny. Spinda Cafe is a godsend and there are a ton of quality-of-life changes that make the game 1000 times better.
>>25836303
>>25836286
These are really cute! I'm glad you're doing this, it's great.
>>25838083
>>25838079
Never mind, found someone who would do it. The absolute madman.
>>25838083
>>25838079
>just went to bed after doing >>25836153
>first thing i get to do on waking up is saving someone from ZIS
I wish i knew how to quit ZIS. It'll take me a bit to do, but i'll give it a go
>>25836286
This is my first attempt.
>>25838083
Gotta love how this is considered an easier mission than a Sky Stairway outlaw.
Hope to fuck your dungeon has a lot of Max Elixers
So, uhh, I attempted to use the rom editor to set Garchomp and Latias as my starters.
And this happened.P.S. How do you screenshot? Nothing happens when I hit F12.
>>25838332
>your partner is a totem
>>25838332
F12 should open a window where you can pick what folder to save it in, at least on Win7.
As for pic related, maybe it's because of legendaries? What's your OS?
>>25838346
>primal Sigilyph
>>25838332
He says chicken, but I clearly see two Garchomps.
>>25838332
>>25838353
The game hung itself as soon as I entered Beach Cave.
>>25838346
>>25838349
I thought it was hilarious that it's a totem saying "I refuse to be paralyzed".
>>25838349
My OS is Window's 7
>>25838332
Looks like you tried loading a save state from before you edited the ROM. That fucks everything up.
>mass influx of people editing the rom to start off with fully evolved pokemon
where's the magic in that?
>>25838391
Hey don't look at me, i just ran with armless axolotl/static sheep
>>25838391
You know, maybe they want to play with evolved Pokémon.
Since you don't evolve at all during the story.
I wouldn't do it either, but it definitely doesn't ruin the game. If anything it makes it better since they can use whatever they want.
>>25838391
"Wahh, other people are playing as the Pokemon they want to. That should NOT be allowed, no sir, not on my watch! Back in my day, blah, blah, blah, magic..."
You know just to trigger your cosmic levels of autism, I'm going to start a game with nothing but fully evolved mons right now.
>>25838083
Your dungeon fucking sucks, there are basically no good items in it
>>25838542very well, I can't stop you anyways
getting really fucking sick of this
>>25838601
>short two characters
take your tricks elsewhere
>>25838542
>being this buttblasted over a moderate observation
>>25837666
I like it, satan
>>25838542
Which mons though?
So, how would you guys describe the Voidlands?
>Go back to playing the base games
>Why aren't my moves levelling up?
>Remember this isn't a PMD game
I've been playing Super a bit too much, it seems
>>25838733
fun for the whole family
>>25838733
>>25838733
The only other good twist that caught me off guard.
>"Well shit,the main character and the partner's fucking dead. Guess it's time for a change of protagonists so that they can be rescued-"
>wake up in purgatory
>>25838657
I think you mean >>25838391 that's where the real assblasted levels of mad is located considering that faggot is bitching about how people choose to play a fucking game.
>>25838711
Marowak and dragonite, We're going to be team vp autism
>>25838813
I mean, I haven't really insulted anyone while you're savaging my ass for noticing a rise in fully evolved mon runs.
In any case, hope you have fun, anon.
how do you add more portraits to pokemon with only 1 or 2 with SkyEdit?
>>25838929
Use PPMD KaoUtil and GIMP.
https://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?40199-Pokemon-Mystery-Dungeon-2-Psy_commando-s-Tools-and-research-notes
>>25838929
There should be a "Fix Missing Portraits" option. Click that and it'll create slots for all the missing portraits.
You'll need to convert the portraits you want to add to 4bpp before importing.
>>25838980
I'm not seeing that option and I can't get >>25838959 to work. Probably because I'm retarded
oh well I'm not too bothered by lacking portraits
>>25839120
Try this version
http://dl.uniquegeeks.net/SkyEditorBeta/
>>25839159
sheit thanks
>>25838079
>>25838083
Here's your mail, jesus christ is running this dungeon 3 times in 12 hours a pain in the ass, but i got you.
Please don't wipe in the following 12 floors, i don't think i can do it again
>>25837757
pretty sure I've already converted each one of them myself
>>25838624
>sticky trap made the CLEANSE orb sticky
wow, now that is fucking hoorible
>>25838739
you've been here before Anon, saying the same thing
>>25839431
Oh, by the way the ones I posted (apart from the last one) are a little bit different, as they have a background closer to the original. I guess it doesn't matter much though.
>Get Dizzy
>Stumble around the room and somehow manage to activate every single trap in the room
Jesus fuck just kill me now
>>25839588
Classic slapstick comedy
>>25839588
I've discovered a way to fix that
whenever you're confused from a trap, hold b+a
if you remember, that's the combo to skip a turn, and you won't move therefore letting the confusion wear out on its own
>>25839588
>not spamming Aor holding A+B
Ok, I think I got the right opening theme this time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhT-nPnqZKU
>>25839732
m-maybe?
>>25839834
and then there was a threesomeand perhaps a foursome if the Weavile Anon joins in
>>25839834
now that is what I wanna see
>>25839939
oh boy, look what we've got here
>>25839972
Why did they make Screech so broken?
>>25839972
We gettin swole here
>>25840244
The juice bar
>>25840257
Push ups, sit ups, and plenty of juice
>>25840244
>>25840296
we getting all kinds of ripped here
>>25840311
Bitches get stitches
honestly, right now, just bring on Espanon, I am ready to pound some skulls
>>25840356
>Directly challenging Espanon
Woah hey hold on now, Anon. I think the roids are messing with your equilibrium
Let's just all dial it down a notch
>>25840356
be careful what you wish for anon
>>25839502
Have I? I think that was a different guy
>>25840356
Remember: strike from afar, don't look directly into the eyes
>>25840482
fine, I'll actually get more levels
also, I need to get my Dark move, I can remember Dark Pulse right now so that's great, although I'll probably go for a physical Lucario
but I'm not sure
>>25840576
Mixed Lucario works out fairly well in my experience; plus, Dark Pulse does hit every enemy surrounding you, including Ghosts in walls.
>>25840576
You mustn't charge into a battle head first. you must learn about your opponent. Learn their strengths and weakness
You must train your body. Train ones soul to sync with thyself in perfect harmony. Train your partner so you becomes your partner in body and soul. Become one
You must use the Forc- err, Aura. Not as a weapon, but as an extension of oneself. You must let it guide you onto the path of justice
>>25840598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R82B_WwHoI
>>25840620
Basically. Just need to up his Sp. Atk when you can, Dark Pulse isn't a STAB move.
>>25840617
>>25840640
I think I'll stick with the squats and the Hypertonic lion tamer
Skorupi and Sneasel guy here.
I'm looking for a challenge. I've played through vanilla Rescue Team and Explorers too many times. I tried the randomizer, but I got some OP items and the game turned into a snore. Now I'm looking for self-imposed rules to make the randomizer more difficult. Here's what I came up with:
>no eating Joy Seeds or Golden Seeds
>no using stat boosters(Sitrus, Vitamins, Gummis)
>no holding EXP Chests
>no linking moves
>Fox only
>Final Destination
Does anyone else have ideas on how to make the game a bit harder? Maybe ban buying Revivers because you can get 1/2 per day? Should I stick with Skorupi and Sneasel?
>>25840755
so, those exclusive items don't need to be equipped for boosts? the info on them says that so
>>25840867
Nope, just have them in the bag
>>25840867
Exclusive items just need to be in the bag for them to take effect. Having multiples of the same item won't stack, but multiple individual items can stack with each other.
For example, two Defense Globes won't increase Bug defenses even more.
>>25840831
Don't buy anything. Only use stuff you pick up.
>>25840831
If you find stairs on a floor, you must explore no further. Pick up items in the room and then advance to the next floor.
Should leave you a little underleveled.
>>25840884
but if I had two different items that boost the same stat, then it would stack?
like Riolu claw and Lucario claw would increase attack twice?
also what IQ class is Lucario? I want to say C
>>25840937
yes
>>25840942
and C IQ has nothing to aid is PP moves.... fantastic
>>25840979
This is why I liked having them as a partner instead as a leader. Leading with something like Espeon or Empoleon gets you extra PP while a Pokemon with IQ group C can occasionally contribute if necessary.
so, thoughts? which one to delete?
>>25841084
every time, every fucking time....
>>25841093
Unless you can find a good move to link Swords Dance to, I'd delete that. Also, once you have the chance, get Extremespeed over Quick Attack.
>>25840898
This is good, but it might make it impossibly difficult in the beginning. I'll try it out.
>>25840900
I like the idea behind this one, but it isn't very "concrete". For example, what if I see the stairs but I'm in a different room, or the hallway I'm in doesn't lead to the room with the stairs? Do I have to take the shortest path to the stairs? How do I know what the shortest path is? Can I grind as long as I don't know where the stairs are? When I'm going to pick up the items, can I dillydally? Can I heal up on the stairs as I usually do? It's an interesting concept, but I don't really understand the execution.
>>25841093
Drop Sword Dance unless you have a link for that
>>25838733
As metal as this album
>>25841151
Well, you're the only one who can enforce the rules anyways so it's up to you. But basically the first priority on any floor is to find the stairs. The idea is that you take what you think is the shortest/fastest route to the stairs, only taking items/fighting enemies in the rooms you go through wile seeking them, and then advance as soon as you've picked up the items you want in the last room.
Does that make it clearer?
and here comes the long journey
Does anyone have the backgrounds for the portraits in sky?
>>25841547
Okay, that makes it much clearer. What you're suggesting is more of a forced general strategy than a rule, which is fine because the only one enforcing the rules is me.
That's pretty much my go-to strategy anyways, which makes it not very interesting to me. For someone who usually grinds on the last floor, or picks up all the items on each floor, this would be pretty neat to try out, but what I'm looking for are more solid rules that even a computer would know the difference between following and breaking.
>>25837666
Is thisinspired by Ears, hardcore mspaint anon?
>>25838733
Interesting concept riding hot on the heels of the game's only decent story sequence, but it didn't live up to its full potential. It looked nice, but between not being attached to the characters and constantly carting around party members through the majority of the dungeons so I didn't actually have to fight that much, it wasn't terribly compelling.Dark Matter's sheer existence polluting the only decent plot twistdidn't help either.
>>25841899
Here you go.
>>25841970
I'd say the void and the part afterwards with beheeyem was the best parts of the story by a huge margin. Everything else just kind of floundered due to bad character usage and shitty pacing.
At times like this, the only proper choice of action is to beat the living shit out of thieves.
>>25841970
thank you
>>25841990
you don't actually get to fight them do you?...
>>25834667
Wish me luck guys. I'm going in to fight Kyorge, with a gold looplet, hopefully type bulldozer, clutch preformer, damage dodge, barage and some other things, several four leaf clover cookies, and as many revive seeds as I can.
>>25842000
Nope. You find them all beat up when you finally cath up with them.
WAN
PAAANCH!I really should get the rest of the stone carvings. Thing is, I can't remember where I got the first 9 episodes from.
>>25841924
in ears the fennekin is female, i think they said it was m/m art, so not really
>>25837666
also this coloring is really nice
This thing was bugged for you?
Not for me.
>>25841987
Eh, for me the lead-up during the Revelation Mountain climb, and then the twist immediately afterward, felt a lot stronger to me. Part of it's because I love Revelation Mountain's music (it's still the only track that I found memorable), but it was the only time aside from the very beginning where I felt like the game actually managed to set up an atmosphere. The mountain's music, the difficulty of getting up there, the sense of urgency, and then the big twist and reveal, of course, it all just worked well.
It's kind of weird. I don't like Serene Village since you spend way too much time there, but I also like it because it's the only place that I feel has the most success during the story, too. Both intentionally and unintentionally, anyway.
Semi-related, but did anyone notice that Super and Gates only had one storywriter compared to Rescue and Explorers' two? Maybe I'm slow, but I only checked the credit listings the other day and that stood out to me.
>>25842194
>he can't see it
ICE to meet you.
>>25842200
Oh yeah, that was pretty good too, completely forgot to mention that. I really loved how absolutely everything that could have gone wrong went to shit in that scene (to the characters, not the scene itself. That would be the ending.)
The Serene Village stuff is something I disliked in hindsight. In isolation, it was charming enough and the school kids were a very likeable bunch that bounced off each other well, but looking at the story as a whole, it ate up so much time that could have been used to cull the mad plot rush towards the end and space it out more.
>>25842290
...no
but yes....
this is why I love Weavile in main games, dragons become nothing more than lizards, superior speed and x4 attack
oh, I guess this is one time where being steel type doesn't help me
I may not need them for a while, but a nice find nevertheless.
They should know what Groudon is, but nobody wonders what its pic doing on the walls.
Couldn't One Punch this, unfortunately.
The Riolu swap item never showed up.
Oh, you should have brought more firepower
>>25842605
A swarm of babies how fucking scary
>>25842605
well finally
how much boost do I get?
>>25842309
That's probably the best way to put it, yeah. I like Serene Village's characters, they're nice and fun, but after the emera tutorial and everything I was mentally saying to myself "c'mon, get on with it". Maybe even before then. I actually got my hopes up after we went to see Ampharos in Poliwrath River, but then he left and once I realized that we weren't finally going to Lively Town and getting the plot started, I think that was when I kind of "broke" and just stopped caring anymore.
I definitely think they should have cut a lot of the early school stuff, but I do think that they should have involved the plot a little more, too. Like, I hear people gripe about Explorers' intro sometimes, but at least there they were easing you into the world but they also threw in the Dimensional Scream getting used a lot and developed the partner a little to boot. I can't think of anything tying the Serene Village half to the Lively Town half outside of thematic stuff (which is nice but still minor) andNuzleaf's trips away from home, which are too minor to be that significant.
This is slightly gay, but no homo.
It begins.
>>25842655
I'd say the usage of the characters was the worst part of the story. They should have just stuck with either the kids or the society. What was the point in giving us lots of time to know them, and even for them to get some development if they were just going to be ditched about 4/10ths the way through the game? By that point, it's a little too late to start introducing a newer bunch, who are far blander, albeit do more in the story.
The balance between the partner and player is so lopsided in favour of the partner that he becomes the only main character in the story. I can see why they did this since you can't really characterise a mute player stand-in, but since I just never grew to like him, the entire story collapses. I don't even think he got much meaningful development since his flaws were just kind of swept under the rug and ignored rather than addressed and concluded. The only thing I felt as though he learned was not to faint in fear of ghosts. Any other revelation came right out of the blue, so I just assumed it was just something he had right at the start. Same goes with the 'you're a kid' spamming. It just kind of went away rather than really being tackled in a corny but charming Spongebob: The Movie way. As for the player character, I really wonder why he was even there. He had less impact in the story than about half the side characters and probably could have been written out entirely without much impact. When that's the character we play as and technically gets the most screen time, that's a huge problem. Sure, the other PC's in the PMD games had no real character to them either, but they still felt like they were there for a reason. I think the story between the two leads only could have worked well with a voiced and characterized human.
Temporal Tower was a lot shorter and easier than I remembered it being.
Wonder how many punches it'll take to bring this one down?
ONE
PUUUNCH!
wew lads
I'll...
just be over here, crying my eyes out
>>25843024
the trip gets me every time
when partner trips right before they get on the rainbow stoneship again
i kinda wish they'ddraw it out a bit with them on the ground because it'd be way sadder
>>25843113
>If you listen carefully, you can hear Anon crying
>>25842734
I forgot how much I love the pixelart of these games.
I really need to get cracking and finish my own replay so I can screenshot as much of it as possible. I just wish I had an easier way to rip the backgrounds, since I don't understand Desmume and just do it the brute-force, screenshot way.
>>25842800
Pretty much. Even though I think the Serene Village part hurts the game as it is now, I feel like it would have been a lot cooler had they kept you in the village and had the schoolkids form a summer club or something. It would have been a lot more compelling, to be sure.
I've always felt like Explorers kind of handled that player/partner balance the best, simply because you both feel like the protagonists. The partner's got the arc of character development (and is the Hidden Land's chosen one with the Relic Fragment and all), while you're the one with the mysterious past (with amnesia and strange visions), and the game always felt very focused on making sure you both got... well, an equal amount of focus.I can't really speak about Gates since I haven't played it, but the demo left me pretty unattached to the partner or the town, so I don't know whether I'd like it better or not
Off to Sky Peak with my brand new Goggle Specs! My team got buffed up with the Joy Seeds I sto-i mean bought from ZIS dungeons. How does it look?
>>25843217
I found the secret bazaar, but I think i didn't bring enough money
question, if I had this Lucario claw, and then I found a Riolu claw, would the two attacks stack?
they're two different items but for the same poke
>>25843275
They should, but having two of one wouldn't work
>>25843275
I think they do, yeah, you're trading inventory space for raw power, as long as the items are unique
What's that? is it something I can eat? It sounds delicious
I'm still mad that the Gengar in Super isn't Rescue Team's Gengar
>>25843390
DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A BAD TIME?
Because this move is badbad to the bone
>>25843509
It's so inaccurate, it's really annoying
>>25843576
I've counted 13 times where it completely missed
around 4 did no damage at all
one missed 5 shots for literally no reason whatsoever
alright then, what move do I replace this with?
