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Useless edition. Old thread >>25750464

SPMD .cia http://pastebin.com/uR5bKJkw

Check the guides at >>>/vg/hbg if you don't know how to install the game. You won't lose any online feature or anything doing so, don't worry. You will be able to do everything that you'd normally be able to and much more.

Blue, Sky, and an emulator (now comes with rom editor so you can have custom starters): https://mega.nz/#!TUEBhRQY!mfpcugVQp_aVbNVNDoJjElo3c__57V0s6O45ftnMSHQ

/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u

PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-

Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA

Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
REMIDER: If you need a rescue, post your region. Due to a few things that make no sense, rescues are region locked. It's shitty, but be sure to mention if you're European or American. If you use the .cia in this post, your region should be listed as American.


Side topic: What do you consider the most useless item?
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>this fucking damage
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>>25764941
>STILL no REMIDER fix

I love you idiots anyways
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>>25764962
Not very effective my ass.

What were meeps' level ups like? Anywhere near starter?
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>>25764972
that was after a Violent Seed+Charge+Discharge.

Levelups were about average, maybe not quite as good as a starter, but certainly has a better movepool than Shinx, that's for sure
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https://clyp.it/ob4il4gp
Reposting from last thread.
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What's a good partner to treecko in Sky and Super?
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getting my swole on at the marowak dojo
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>>25764994
i know charmander gets smokescreen and i think cyndaquil might too. smokescreen is easywins
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>>25764992
Damn, who made this
This is pretty good
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well, this spawn location was interesting
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>>25765080
It's fine
You'll be fine
Everything is fine
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>>25765080
just unleash your charms on them, it'll be fine
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>>25764992
Pretty darn good anon.
It has a bit too much reverb, but the strings are spot on.
I'd like to ask you to check that mixing though.
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>>25765097
>>25765106
they were just bitches
slapped them once and they kneeled
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>>25765122
I should have mixed it with headphones on since my speakers aren't great.
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Time to do Bidoof's episode
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>>25765126
>Mistress Espanon continues to increase her harem
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>>25764941
>Side topic: What do you consider the most useless item?

The Silence Orb. Every single item in the game has a use, but this one is the definition of situational. It stops the enemy from attacking, but only if they're using certain moves that come from their mouth. The best you can use this for is recycling.
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it's so cute how he thinks he's so tough
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>>25765201
>run up to him
>use Water Gun
>red -999
>mfw
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>>25765201
The weak should fear the strong
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OY VEY
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>>25765239
ok, so where do I find Wide slash?
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Swirlix is best SMD girl though
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>>25765306
Far-Off Sea. Floor 50, needs a key. Explore every floor past the second scenery change for a tight belt (that is, the first area doesn't have it, the second doesnt, but after that does) Should be 35F and after
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I've seen people with pokemon in SMD with stats at 200+. How are you getting those numbers? My pokemon are getting +1-2 in each stat per level, there's no way they'll even get close to 200 before level 100.

Does everyone just pump stat boosting items into their pokemon until their stats are bloated to that level? Why would you even need stats that high?
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>>25765297
what if you do have 6500P
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>>25765346
>Why would you even need stats that high?
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>>25765346
Why not spam stat boosting items when you have shit like Water Looplet
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>>25765346
>Does everyone just pump stat boosting items into their pokemon until their stats are bloated to that level? Why would you even need stats that high?

>he doesnt want to be the strongest little unevolved mon there ever was


>>25765349
Bidoof has 7000P but doesn't want to spend it
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>>25765351
>>25765355
>>25765357
I've already roided up my mons a fair amount, but at 80 Sp. Def (up from 50 before roiding), I'm taking single digit damage from a lot of pokemon.

Assuming stats scale linearly, if I pump myself up another 20 points or so the entire game becomes trivial. Is there anything you actually need stats that high for, like Mewtwo or some other end boss, or is it just useless padding?
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When should I stop pumping stats in Super? I'm level 45 and both my attack stats are about 175, and with the Wildfire Looplet I have 205 Attack. Should I go to the max or should I leave room for level boosts?
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>>25765375
Go ahead and try the postgame dungeons like Destiny Tower with that much defense.
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>>25765375
Oh no, absolutely not
Go ahead and try those postgame dungeons, Anon. You can totally do them with that defence
Totally
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>>25765411
Yeah, you can do them without a single reviver seed, the difficulty really plummeted for some reason
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>>25765416
Yeah. I mean, what's up with that?
Just completely eradicating the difficulty
I mean, wow! You can totally do these solo
Totally
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>>25765423
Shit man, i even soloed one of those pathetic dungeons with an Unown
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>>25765428
Maaaan, I did that yesterday. Solo'd Sacred Ruins like it was nothing!
I remember just blitzing through legendaries. Man, that difficulty nerf post game man. Damn, it's just too easy!
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>>25765172
b-bidoof senpai

i love bidoof senpai

he is and is shaped like a friend
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>>25765378
On average, you'll be getting slightly less than 1 point per level, so you'll need a little more to max them out. You could safely get a +25 boost and almost definitely won't reach 255 at level 100.
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>>25765445
I make like 3 Sacred Ruins runs before breakfast. Can't believe they tout that as the ultimate dungeon! These games just get more and more casual!
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>>25765459
Cool, thanks.
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https://clyp.it/xtn3z5ux
Messed with it a bit.
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Please god let me die in my sleep
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This seems familiar
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>>25765566
But anon, dead humans can't be sent to the Pokémon world
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>>25765579
I don't deserve it at this point.
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>>25765569
same mon?

same mon

same mon!

SAME MON!
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>>25765658
The one in Super mentions being from Star Cave.
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>>25765668
well i mean

super subscribes to the belief that there's only one unique npc for every pokemon, unless there isn't, so of course all of the special pokemon you've seen in the past are the same ones as now
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>>25765535
I liked the first one better
But this one has a more mystical charm to it
I like them both
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That's what I'm talking about, a miracle drink that doesnt up HP by 2
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So, what do I name her? She WILL become an Umbreon soon, but what shall I name her?
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>>25765725
Estelle
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>>25765725
so, it's going to be a Gen 2 female Umbreon
Lyra
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>>25765757
..... love it already
will train then get item
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Time to graduate.
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>>25765826
They didn't even attack once.
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>>25765835
>Local Wooper Terrorizes Guild
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>>25765535
The drums are totally drowned.
Up the volume on drums and lower on bass strings, up the volume on main melodies.

Keep it up.
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>>25765689
That's what really bugs me about the fanservice cameos, to be honest. It's kind of contrived to think that all the species of Pokemon from previous games you meet just so happen to be the very same ones from previous games. It's just really weird.
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>>25765858
>medicham, after being rescued by the player in wish cave, decides to turn to a legitimate lifestyle
>gardevoir no longer has any purpose after gengar's plot is over
>the two join together to explore other continents
>they meet lopunny
>they form the most mediocre master rank team in existence
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I'm never taking missions that give money just to spite you.
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Let the training commence
here's the music I'm using for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_0QHtEnq04
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SOON
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>>25765912
>Going for the innocent sensei/apprentice route that turns into the apprentice falling in love with the sensei but is too shy to say anything and yet the sensei notices that the apprentice is being off causing the apprentice to admit their feelings for the sensei in a heartfelt confession that leads to kissing under the moonlight which triggers the evolutionary process
Hm, yes, I like it
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>>25765936
Don't you fucking do it you little shit.
If you walk away from a ZI untouched I'll go to sleep
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>>25765936
>Zero Isles
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>>25765961
>>25765966
I'm doing this, you doubt me?
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>>25765974
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>>25766001
Look at these stats and tell me i can't.
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>>25765974
>>25766014
Anon, there's better ways to go out
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>>25765966
Is this a GTI reference?
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>>25765952
y-yes please
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I've played too much Super lately and am sorta done with its infinity of dungeons most of which have only 1 mission in them.

So should I restart Explorers or play Sky with some neato "random" starters?
Haven't played explorers in ages and never touched the postgame in it. Been a while since I played Sky, too, but I've cleared the game completely. Well, I never went to Destiny Tower nor recruited everything, but did just about everything else.
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>>25766105
randomizer mystery dungeon? sounds fun
>you will never get your tongue stuck on Glaceon's own tongue and just sit there as you both enjoy it
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>>25765874
see that would have been insanely good continuity if they went with it, but i don't think they ever explained it/implied it
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>>25766017
I'm still alive
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>>25765892
i really wish at this point they would have dropped that and just let you rake in the millions

they could make tms more expensive that way, or have more expensive exclusive things or something
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>>25766187
You fucking shitlord. I hope you go far and prosper
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>>25766204
Pic related is my last run in this place on cart. It's blurrier than a fake leak, though
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so, after like, level 80, is there a better place than lightning field to get vitamins?
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Are secret base missions in super pre determined on whether or not they're monster houses or not? I've done two secret bases in a row and they were both just dandy.

>pic related
yes I fucking did
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>>25766248
that bitch stole your joy


steal her life
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>>25766280
i feel like they're predetermined because of the way they wrote the dialogues and because of what i assume is laziness or rushed-ness
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My team is gone, but I've been holding back this entire run. or at least since I found this bad boy on the ground
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>>25766296
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For the purposes of the Excavation Looplet, is the leader defined as Player 1 in your roster, or by the player you're controlling?

I want to say it's the pokemon I'm controlling, but I've yet to see a single hidden treasure when I'm holding it.
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So, what's a better place to farm Vitamins than Lightning field?
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>>25766337
Mt Faraway shops sell them
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>>25766295
That's what I was thinking too, but I just got to a 3rd safe base. At first I thought secret bases were always monster houses because that's all I got the first 3 or 4 times. I guess it's just a coincidence.
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>>25766349
hmm, hmm
what about Western Cave?
I seem to find a lot there
I'll probably go anyways, because fuck you I'm level 80, I can do what I want
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>>25766319
Whoever you're controlling. I never change the team order but give the Excavation Looplet to whoever I feel like using at the time, and I've never had issues with it.
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>>25766306
>when you get sniped by something you couldn't see

There wasn't a thing i could do to prevent this, outside finding a Warp Scarf. Just goes to show that Drifblim is the best choice, they don't have quad weaknesses
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Grovyle did nothing wrong
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>>25766380
But it's all good, we got some good items from there! Look, that's +8 HP!
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>>25766295
Nah, I don't think it's laziness. All the monster house bases follow a theme.
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Suck it team ACT
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>>25766388
the only thing he did wrong was be in the wrong place at the wrong time and he lost everything

pretty much
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>>25766425
and the theme is "people that look mean or are dark/ghost type are evil"

"and a couple of people that look nice are also evil, as a joke, we're lampshading the trope, can't you see?"
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>>25766380
More like explorer of oops
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>Able to use the L button to advance dialogue
All games should do this
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>>25766349
>>25766364
ok, so. results are....
2 bottles of zinc from lightning field......
yeah fuck that, onto Mewtwo's cave once more
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>>25766604
Yep.

Literally the only reason i was able to win this dungeon with 4 Unown is because I had the best items in the game. Unown's swap item, Pass/Warp Scarves, 20 Rare Fossils (like gravelerocks only 100 damage) and several Pure Seeds for the final floors.
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>>25766536
The whole series has done this, I don't understand why it's such a big deal now.
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Espanon shall be sleeping now
expect great things from this champ in the making
also, expect many lewd things
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>>25766648
Yeah, I remember those times
Crazy times
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>>25766759
It still counts though. Someone asked me to use 4 unown, and i did, within the restrictions of the dungeon
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>>25766769
What I still wonder is how did you get 20 Rare Fossils.
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>>25766705
it's always been a big deal

to me
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>>25766536
"Except for the one inversion, Hidreygon"
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>>25766787
I hope the next game has, like, a water-type or something as the main antagonist. No "you thought it was x, but it was really y" bullshit, just an evil non-dark/ghost/poison type from the beginning.
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>>25766829
their motive is

>i hate the land, it's disgusting and dry and dirty and taints the water
>look how beautiful the water is, my beautiful home
>if i destroy all of the land, then the water will be everywhere
>this can only be a good thing
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>>25766829
Fuck that, Normal type antagonist
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>>25766852
their motive is they want everything to be neutral.

Like those guys from Futurerama
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Who to pick as partner?
I'm Charmander.
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>>25766843
I like this plan
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>>25766875
I'd go with treecko I think

or toto

toto is really short compared to you, that's cute, you can be his aniki
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>>25766784
i did 5 of those "hunt for a rare fossil with an escort" missions. They're rare
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>>25766880
the moral of the story and partner's character conflict can be overcoming selfishness and realizing that your actions can negatively effect other people
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>>25766904
Here we go!
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>>25766946
i love the maps in rbtds, im kinda disappointed with the quasi-realism styled map in super
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Charmander's sprites aren't the best, but oh well. You can't get everything.
Also, Toto seems to gain a hell of a lot of Attack and very little sp.atk. Gen III really suffers from the lack of phys/spec split.
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>>25766954
>>25766946
incidentally how about a map dump
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ultimate plot twist from the next pmd: pikachu is not a starter and has no plot relevance either
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>>25766829
>>25766843
>>25766852
>I can't remember the secondary antagonists from GTI
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I seem to remember that there's something nasty at Mt. Steel, but we'll see.
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Oh yeah, that was it.
No elixirs and no PP reset before the boss.
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>>25767243
If you have any Blast Seeds, use them.
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>>25767243
Just a heads up that Feraligatr's sprite is atrocious
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>>25767435
if i was in pokemon world i would want to stay cute with my partner forever anyway
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>>25767488
>not evolving

good choice
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Going to try the randomizer. Which Pokemon should I play as?
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>>25767518
I'm gonna say you should play Skorupi and Sneasel
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>>25767529
Sounds good! Why specifically those two?
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>>25767557
Skorupi was pretty useful last time i did a level 1 dungeon, and both of those mons are unevolved forms of most of Team AWD
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Playing Sky as this duo might have ruined the game for me, I don't think I can go back to the normal set of starters again, it's too much fun
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>>25767133
What would you remember them for? They're just there doing nothing at all the entire time. They are only part of the plot as "munna's friends". That's it.
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>>25767133
>>25767640
That's the sad thing about GTI. If it had a better plot and worked more with its characters, I think it could've been really good.
That and better gameplay.
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>>25767658
>>25767640
I think the sad thing about GTI was that it was determined to tell instead of showing, the Bittercold was a vague and etheral antagonist, and overall it was too childish. Even though PMD is marketed to kids, it's usually mature enough to be satisfying to the older audience as well. GTI was just too kid friendly.
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>>25767640
>>25767686
>>25767658
Also the text speed issue, the lack of difficulty (did it pick up in post-game? I never finished it.) and the overabundance of characters.
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>>25767699

>lack of difficulty
I don't know about you, but GTI was pretty difficult imo
Bug Bite and Incinerate ate up my inventory pretty quickly, and stat reductions didn't help.

I never did the post game. What is there to do?
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>>25767814
>What is there to do?
Lots of late game dungeons IIRC.

>GTI was difficult
Axew trivialized the game. Access to a plethora of boosting moves and the ability to farm stat boosting items with the challenge board eliminated any difficulty. Not to mention that STAB+Rivalry on a booster Dual Chop completely murders any Dragon-type boss. I two-shot Kyurem, for example.
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To anyone that has finished 100%ing SMD, will I be able to take my team of Swampert / Emboar / Tyrantrum through to the end of the game, or am I going to get fucked over hard for not using a team of legendaries?

Does it matter that only one of my pokemon can mega evolve?

How prominent are fairy types in the most difficult dungeons?
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>>25767835
I never used Axew, I liked Oshawott more, along with Snivy.

Guess if I redo the game again, I'll try out Axew and see how it goes.
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>>25767943
Axew gets Dual Chop at level 13. It'll nearly one-shot everything you come across. You get access to Swords Dance, Dragon Dance and Hone Claws as well, with one boost you're near guaranteed an OHKO on everything. Scary Face is great for bosses too. Your only weakness is a lack of steel type coverage, so Tepig is the best partner. Any partner can be used though.
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>>25767872
>will I be able to take my team through to the end of the game?
Sure you can.
Legendaries aren't that much stronger than other Pokémon, and they'll often be going on breaks. Plus your team gets room clearing moves.
If it feels like you're getting your ass kicked, you can always buy some vitamins from Cofagrigus to boost your stats a bit.

>Does it matter that only one of my pokemon can mega evolve?
Nope. Mega Evolution is pretty much Awakening with a super-strong regular attack and your Pokémon going berserk at the end. I almost went the whole game without seeing it.

>How prominent are fairy types in the most difficult dungeons?
Not really any more than other types, as far as I could tell. Type matchups shouldn't be too troubling, since they were really toned town in Super.
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>>25768039
>Type match ups were toned down in Super
They were toned up compared to RB and TDS
>Going berserk
Can you give an explanation of what berserk means in SMD?
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>>25768076
They seem toned town from Rescue Team and Explorers. I'd say ~120% for SE at most.

When a Pokémon goes berserk, you lose control of it for a short while and it blows up enemies with its regular attack. In the absence of enemies, it just destroys walls. It also might attack its allies.
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>>25768189
How long does berserk last? Is there a way to heal it?

IIRC the numbers are 1.5x for STAB and 1.4x for super effective. The biggest change that I'm aware of is that immunities are actually immune now, instead of just having a very small multiplier (iirc it used to be 0.4 for immunities like ground vs flying).
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>>25768211
Not very long, maybe 10 turns or so. There's a looplet which prevents you from going berserk, but otherwise you'll just have to wait it out.

Sky had 1.4x for super effective hits, but as far as I can tell they've lowered it.
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Is it just me or is Charmander underpowered? I level slower than my partner and get worse levelups. It's 1 level higher and has 5 more in every stat apart sp.atk.
Also, I forgot how bad the AI is in this game. My followers seem to love nothing more than spamming their default attack or getting stuck behind some water. Would activate exclusive move user, but it's mutually exclusive with PP checker...
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>>25768568
Just wait until smokescreen. It's all worth it by then.
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>>25768568
>Is it just me or is Charmander underpowered? I level slower than my partner and get worse levelups. It's 1 level higher and has 5 more in every stat apart sp.atk.
If I had to guess, I'd say it's because Charmander gets access to Smokescreen, which is very broken, especially combined with sleep or imprison or something similar.

>Also, I forgot how bad the AI is in this game.
Except for getting lost or stuck sometimes, they seem good enough to me. But I haven't played Super.

>My followers seem to love nothing more than spamming their default attack, would activate exclusive move user, but it's mutually exclusive with PP checker...
Exclusive move user is much more important than PP checker. Just turn off moves that run out of PP manually. It sucks, but it's preferable.
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>>25768673
Take this situation as an example:
In Super, the partner would move to either green, if it had ranged moves, or red, if it didn't, and attack the enemy. In this it just... stands there, doing nothing.
It rarely matters since normal enemies are so easy, but it'd let me preserve some PP if I could rely on my partner. Plus it's damn stupid for them to just sit there and watch.
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>>25768740
Oh, I see. To me, the movement in Explorers is better because I can predict exactly where the partner will move in any situation(he won't get his stupid ass into trouble going to grab items or stuff like that). But I can understand why someone wouldn't like that the partner is so passive.
Also, in your example, I would just move backwards to the green spot to have a 2-on-1 without taking any damage.
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>>25766219
Wait, what Pokemon are you?
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>>25768866
I should also mention that there's a setting for the AI to chase after enemies. It's pretty bad(they usually get lost as a result), but it's there for certain situations where it makes a big difference, such as in boss battles when your partner is behind you.
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The thing that really bothers me the most with this game is that you can only sell one item at a time.
Also, I've now bought all the friend areas. Is there anything to use money on now?
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>>25768568
Smokescreen balances that the FUCK out. Stats don't mean jack when you can just make the opponent incapable of action.
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>>25769005
Joy seeds, but that's about it. Thank god they still sell those.
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Just restarted super for the second time, last time i only got to poliwrath river. Let me tell you, that shit is impossible as a chimchar. This time its oshawott and chikorita, lets hope for the best
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>>25767686
>Too childish
Compared to what? Serene Village? The Wigglytuff guild? Gates felt the least saccharine of the stories.

I can't even call the Bittercold an antagonist since it didn't even seem to be sentient. At least the whole negativity stuff made sense unlike in Super

Telling but not showing crippled the overall story though. It really should have used flashbacks to show shit that we were just told about.
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>>25769310
>flashbacks
This killed my enjoyment of Sky. I never understood people who praise The Last of Us for good storytelling until I played Sky with its frankly bad storytelling.
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>>25769356
The Sky flashbacks were bad since it was of stuff we already saw. In fact, I swore there was a flashback to an earlier point in the same cutscene. The flashbacks that could have been used in Gates were of stuff we were only told about. Example, when the timburrs were describing how Gurdurr went from a builder to a miserable con artist, it was just through dialogue where they could have shown it in a flashback scene.

Sky's main problem though was the characters. None of them endeared me aside from the episodes.
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Ah, yes. And now comes the part where I cringe because the MC & Partner don't know how to open their mouths and claim someone's lying.
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okay so I want a greninja/ Charizard/ torterra team but greninja will get hurt by EQ from torterra.

Is there any item that prevents this?
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And this is where we'll leave it for now.
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So what the fuck was Bunnelby there for? Just to fill a slot in the Expedition Society? He didn't even have a character. They probably put him at the entrance during the post-game so that people would remember he exists.
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>>25769005
Buy every escape orb you can find early
later in the game when you need them the most, they'll be like, the rarest item to buy
there's still places to grind for them, but buying is a much safer option
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>>25770306
>a normal type pokemon is a normal, plain character
>being surprised by this
Bidoof is an exception
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>>25770765
Bidoof is both completely insufferable and admirable in some ways.
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>>25770765
It just bothers me because every other member had the spotlight at some point.
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>>25769421
>you werent endeared by bidoof
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>>25768896
Unown T, if you look real hard you can just barely make out the T
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>>25771041
how the fuck
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>>25771082
>warp scarves to skip the hallways
>pass scarves for survivability
>Cryptic Sash to confuse attackers
>20 Rare Fossils, gotten 5 at a time from treasure hunt missions, to 1shot massive threats from afar
>Reviver Seeds
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>castform size 4
I wasn't going to use him anyways, but why?
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>>25771134
wait what

for what purpose

weather isn't that overpowered
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>>25771134
>>25771175
4 forms, that's probably why
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>>25770952
>"Aside from the episodes"
Bidoof's Wish was a complete tease. Wish he was the partner instead of the one we got
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>>25771219
Oh yes, "Let me repeat everything you just said back to you in the form of a question." I wanted to restart and name my partner David because holy shit did they have an extreme case of Solid Snake syndrome.
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>>25771134
He's a big guy.
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>>25771268
>Metal Klink?
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>>25771283
for chunsoft
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>>25771134
Reposting from when this was asked before:
"Because Weather Ball does hella damage. As a test, I had Castform use Weather Ball(in Hail) and Articuno use Ice Beam on a shitty Tiny Woods monster. Castform is level 50 and Articuno is level 53. Here's the damage:
>Castform: 681
>Articuno: 451
Enough damage to beat out a Size 4 Legendary. Not only that, but Weather Ball has twice the PP of Ice Beam. It's true that Castform doesn't have much else going for it, but hot damn is it good at what it does.
I conducted my test in Rescue Team, where it's only size 1, but the stats are probably the same in Explorers."
It probably isn't as good in Explorers now that Base Power exists, but back in RT it was killer, and they probably wanted to nerf it a little.
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>>25771313
What the fuck.
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yes, yes, everyone get in line for your beat down, one at a time please
you in the back, no cutting!
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>>25771313
What were the stats?

>>25771340
>that gray grovyle
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>>25771348
>What were the stats?
I wish I had written them down back then. I can tell you that neither of them had any stat-boosting items like gummis or vitamins.
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>>25771219
bidoof was cool even before the episode
he was the most passionate alongside your partner
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>>25770800
Bunnelby's basically the worst form of plot dressing you could ever include in a story; he contributes nothing and has absolutely no personality or bearing. I almost wanted to compare him to Corphish, but even Corphish had a moment when you reached the Groudon statue where he was around to solve the puzzle, and then went to get the guild. Then I wanted to compare him to Croagunk, but Croagunk is actually useful because he's a handy vendor.

The best comparison I can draw is Trevor from XY, in that there's no personality or purpose to Bunnelby. I'd say Tierno since I dislike Tierno more, but it's not as accurate since they tried to give Tierno a personality and made him annoyingly personality-less instead, much like the other Society members.

>>25771391
To be honest, I've always entertained the idea of what would have happened if you'd never returned, and if the partner and Bidoof became the main duo instead. Might make for a fun Sky Editor run sometime, at least.
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a few protein shakes, hard boiled eggs, milk for some strong bones and you're on your way to being the best
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>>25771545
Ok, so these are her stats at lvl 20
and Mewtwo is.... lvl 40 with around the exact same.... strongest pokemon my ass
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>>25771748
See, legendary doesn't mean shit.

I think out of every pokemon, only Deoxys and Lugia end up with stats over 100 without Gummis
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>>25771545
and remember to always eat your greens
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>>25772019
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dropping beautiflys with my bullet seed
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>>25772019
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>>25772110
why does grovyle look troubled at the sight of a plate loaded with grass gummis?
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>>25772160
They're not all Grass is why
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>>25772187
nah, some are slightly different shade of green, I'd say it's a few green and grass gummis
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what's that? is there something you want to tell me?
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>>25772261
>give me more gummis you fuck.
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>>25772284
woah now Anon, we don't have to be so hostile
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>>25772261
>>25765952 was right
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It's that time again.
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>>25772333
oh, right, but it doesn't work unless we have the moonlight, probably going to need to fix that
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>>25772363
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brother...?
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These teammates are making it impossible to spam earthquake without caring. but if i evolve that other Wooper and have it in my party enough that swap item just might appear.
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>>25772438
This is why gods aren't allowed to make friends with mortals
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It just keeps getting worse.
Same Pidgeot used QA twice. See the difference in damage taken.
Toto is now 3 levels higher and has 10(!) more in both defences. I can't do a fucking thing without getting killed thrice while it's nearly immune to everything.
Smokescreen when?
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based
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>>25772523
huh weird in sky you would already have smokescreen by this point
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>>25772523
You might want to just dump ALL of your gummis into charmander to make up the difference like I did when cubone had bad stats
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>>25772523
If this game uses FRLG's movesets, you get it in 1 level
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Speak of the devil...
>>25772595
Can you get stats from gummis in Explorers? I've eaten some and haven't seen a single stat boost.
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>>25771481
At least he appeared as a guest in a couple of dungeons.

Swirlix was a flat out millstone to the society.
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>>25772608
wait, you're at mt blaze already?
oh boy, I remember when I came to this thread while going to mt Blaze
I suddenly became a semi well known Anon who has a fetish for using Attract a lot
and now there's another with Smokescreen
oh how history repeats itself
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>>25772608
Oh wait that's in spinda cafe that you get a lot of extra bonuses

I forget about just raw gummis

If you meant rescue team, you have to eat them in the friend zones
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>>25772608
In Rescue Team, i dont think you can get a single point into a stat from gummis in dungeons. In Explorers, it's merely a chance of a statup, and only in dungeons. Eating them in town is a horrible idea, always do it in the Cafe, unless you're just boosting IQ in which case you can pierce hurl it through your team for triple iq boost
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>>25772632
That's true, he at least was a party member. Swirlix is probably the most Tierno-ish of all.
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>>25772658
What equip was pierce in rt and explorers?
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>>25772724
Pierce Band in both. For 100% accuracy piercing throws, you need to use a Pierce Orb+Lockon Specs in RT. You can use that combo in Explorers, but it's better to just use the Pierce Hurler skill and specs.
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I can't spam earthquake here, but Mareep can spam Signal Beams through everyone
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>>25772645
Oh great. Now that they actually have some use, I can't access them.
>>25772644
I actually saw an Attract TM in the shop but didn't buy it because I heard it's terribly broken.
Smokescreen only has 10PP tho.
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Also, guess how many reviver seeds I have?
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Does SMD let you use Pokemon that aren't the main starting 2 early on, or do you have to wait till endgame to remove them?
I wanna know since someone said it'd be better to not evolve at all, since it doesn't count in the connection map and it just makes it impossible to 100% it. Is this true?
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>>25772787
one
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>>25772787
Moltres isn't that hard, Articuno though is a massive bitch
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>>25772796
As soon as you get enough mons to make your own team of three, you can swap your player and partner out.

Your player and partner don't really count towards a living 'dex as you're able to recruit the species that you started with anyway, so you can evolve your player and partner without worry. If you evolve anyone else, though, you'll sacrifice the chance for proper living dex.
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>>25772796
No, it's not impossible to 100% it, whoever told you that was lying. Evolve if you want, you'll always have at least one copy of your starter and partner no matter the stage.

Yes, you have to wait until post-game to remove them.
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>>25772798
None.
>>25772803
Well, all it did was Agility to 4x speed and then spam normal attack. Didn't really do anything because Smokescreen lol.
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>>25772829
adding onto this to say that evolving also has literally no impact on your stats, and to not bother.
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alright, we have everything we need for a beautiful confession of love, under the moonlight, a very close bond
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Gee i wonder what's in this room.
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>>25772872
that's just a normal room honestly
every single room stacked with at least 4 traps right next to eachother
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>>25772844
Like I said, they can evolve if they want. Can't blame them if they'd rather have an Empoleon than a Piplup
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>>25772894
I EQ'd the room. Sadly my stat gains aren't that great anymore, but who cares? Memento Skuntank's a pain in the ass though.
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>>25772850
Be gentle
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O hai.
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This is the 4th monster house i've seen on this trip
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>>25772850
>>25772919
it was a wonderful moment for her
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Is it just me or does hunger drain REALLY fast in SPMD compared to the other games it seems like I had to eat an apple every 4 or so floors
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>>25772997
It drains 30% faster than in Sky. 7 steps per 1 hunger instead of 10 steps
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>>25772997
yeah I think it's a bit faster

maybe with the neverhungries it's more manageable? but they're postgame, so...
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>>25772986
And like that Unbreon became a slut to Espanon's delicate touch
>Even though she doesn't want to admit it
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little Weedle? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class from Wigglytuff's Guild, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Zero Isle, and I have over 300 confirmed rescues. I am trained in Slaking warfare and I’m the top explorer in the entire team. You are nothing to me but just another outlaw. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in this dungeon, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the job board? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Magnemite across the world and your location is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, Wurmple. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your crime life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just without my Petrify Orb. Not only am I extensively trained in itemless combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the team's item storage and I will use it to its full extent to arrest your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking arrested, kiddo.
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BROTHER
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Oh, so she knows about Umbreon's Toxic usage
well, right now she's going to be a good physical attacker, shadow ball, screech>tackle, moonlight
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>Go into a Dungeon with a team featuring the Salamence you get early on
>Found Awakened Emera
>"Oh neat now I can mega-evolve"
>"Wow this is pretty cool"
>"OH FUCK"

Truly Mega-evolution is a curse. Also do they ever tell you that after a while of being mega you just straight up fuck up shit indiscriminately
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