Based autist-kitty-sniper edition. Old thread >>24820425
Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck
/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u (embed)
PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-
Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA (embed)
Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ (embed)
Side-topic: Favorite characters?
first for best guild leader
>>24824590
That's a weird way of spelling "Wigglytuff"
>>24824590
That's not the Gates partner.
>>24824598
He didn't spell anything though?
>>24824598
But it's the correct way of spelling 'Ampharos'
>>24824603
>That's not the Gates parter
My fucking niggah
THE DASHING WANDERER
>>24824590
>>24824598
>>24824603
>>24824605
>>24824617
FOOLS! THE GUILDS ARE POWERLESS BEFORE THE MIGHT OF NANTO HO'OH KEN!
Psybeam's a good job mate.
>>24824239
>Better than Rescue team's bare bones story, but it's still much weaker than the story in Explorers and Gates
Agreed on the first one, but I thought the general consensus was that Gates had pretty great characters, but ruined by a relatively short,bare story.
Explorers is still one of the best, though we'll see how they handle it in a re-release after Z or whatever is made.
>>24824643
>Short
I never knew why Gates always gets slammed for having a short story. Start to credits took me about 19 hours while Explorers only took me 17.
>>24824643
Gates story is about as long as Super and Explorers. The only difference is some say the actual writing is a bit below Explorers but it makes up for it with the cast.
>>24824643
Plot: Explorers>Gates>Super>Rescue
Characters: Gates>Super>Explorers>Rescue
Is this about right?I put Gates plot over Super since super was an absolute mess at times. Gate's plot was basic, but it at least held itself together
>>24824656
Note Special Episodes above Super and it's perfect.
is the mystery dungeon series actually just propaganda for apple farmers?
>>24824666
Err, for characters. Leave plot as is.
>>24824656
Biggest problem with Super's characters is that they weren't used well.The school kids really grew on me, but become completely irrelevant after 40% through the story, and they put way too much focus on the partner in general
>>24824656
>No game has the best plot and the best characters.
Well. Time to wait for the next Mystery Dungeon. My autism will accept nothing less than perfection.
>>24824705
we just need a small cast like Gates but with in-depth characters that's explored via Special Episodes like Explorers, i guess
>>24824701
>PMSD AU or fanfic where the expedition society rejects the protags after all and they end up making their own with the schoolkids
when?oh yeah that's right, never, because nobody every finishes their fucking pmd fanfics
>>24824713>tfw bearly started my own pmd fanficfug DDDD:
>>24824713
>Tfw I've almost finished mine
I'll prove you wrong
Alsogathering the school kids and breaking out of hell together when a lot of the society members gave up hope. You want this, don't you
>>24824713
I finished my PMD fic anonNine years ago
>>24824731It'd be like a cliche adults are too "realistic" the idealism of the children are the future thing but damn it I don't give a shit I want it
>>24824731
>you want this don't you
Sure. It's been a while since I read any good ones, keep us postedassuming this isn't just a ruse.
>>24824720
Yeah, the thing with PMD fanfics in general is that they try to re-write the WHOLE game, only with their OCs inserted inside and their "own twists" despite following the script 95% of the time.
Like, if you wanted to do that, play the damn game instead, or write the most notable or important scenarios only because everybody knows what's going on between those scenes.
Alternatively, write new stuff with previously-established characters so you can flesh em out yourself. Romance, comedy, whatever. I mean, I don't like the concept of "headcanons," but some of the characters in PMDs are so barebones I'd be willing to accept those.
When I was stumbling around on dA for PMD fanart I found some group where someone would set a prompt and everyone else would write or draw how their team would approach the problem. Thought it was pretty neat and I'd probably have been all over it several years ago. I also think it was dead by the time I found it.
>>24824765
>Yeah, the thing with PMD fanfics in general is that they try to re-write the WHOLE game, only with their OCs inserted inside and their "own twists" despite following the script 95% of the time.
Somewhat guilty of this personally. Loosely follows Sky's story, but it diverges heavily at points.
>>24824781
>I'd probably have been all over it several years ago
Yeah, but then blah blah blah, this shit takes time, and real life/other duties finds ways to rip you a new one.
>tfw you wanna improve at art but also wanna get started with writing too
>tfw you're such a perfectionist you can't write any semblance of a paragraph for an hour
>tfw jobs, essays, classes, etc
>tfw related image so a small percentage of my stuff would probably be a little niche
>>24824713
>nobody ever finishes their fucking pmd fanfics
You're forgetting If I Were Just a Little Braver, Anon.I know it isn't related to SMD, but it WAS finished.
>>24824765
You know what would I like to see?
A PMD fanfic where no one is the 'Chosen One' as there is about many humans running around ((maybe 10-15 in the end), who are creating some kind of union.
>>24824816
>tfw gates could have been like this
>>24824713
>tfw I finished mine but it's way too autistic to post even on /vp/
I'm seriously trying to remember why I wrote this considering it's just sitting in my Dropbox.
>>24824859
How is it autistic?Post it somewhere so we can determine how it is, faggot. Maybe it was just a rush of creative juices. I get that a lot and sometimes it's improperly executed.
>>24824901
I broke rule #1 of good mystery dungeon writing by not only naming the protag explicitly, but making that name relevant to the plot at a level it can't be written out. The only reason I bothered finishing it was because I felt the plot was too good to throw out. At this point I'm ironing out the other flaws in the story. "Finished", but I don't feel it's at publication quality even ignoring the primary flaw that I find with it.
>>24824688
Do you think they get tired of eating only seeds, berries, and apples?
>>24824713I've wanted to write a PMD fanfiction for so long but can never find the energy to do it. That idea sounds amazing, though.
I wonder how a fanfiction would be received if the main characters were doing something else in the world and weren't related to the actual protags of the game. Maybe they cross paths in the story on their own world-ending, or not, journey, but don't butt in and keep the canon story relatively pure.
>there will never be an episodic PMD anime that follows the escapades of a bunch of different teams with a different one every week save for multiparters
I want a long lasting game... I'm talking about 30 hours at least. Does the new Mystery Dungeon last that long?
>>24825008
I've played through Super twice and I've ended up hitting the Epilogue at 30+h
So roughly, yeah
>>24825008
The story is about that long if you power through it.
The game is about ten times that long if you're aiming for some semblance of completion.
>Walrein used Ice Ball!
>Porygon2 took 23 damage!
>Porygon2 took 23 damage!
>Porygon2 took 25 damage!
>Porygon2 took 27 damage!
>Porygon2 took 27 damage!
>Which item do you want to use to revive Porygon2?
>>24825008
It's about 30-35, yeah.
>>24825014
DESTROYED
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>>24825011
Cool, so you can do stuff after you finish the main game? Like what?
>>24825055
Wrong thread, bro.
>>24824991
I'd think it'd be pretty interesting to see how the other teams in the past games are doing now. Apparently, most of the guilds and societies have disbanded, and Team Meanies split.
Actually, might be great to see how Gengar is doingafter being doomed to be a Pokemon forever
>>24823944
This anon here.
I don't really care if someone organizes the portraits at the same time; but if you finish before I do, could you pack up all the icons, unused portraits included, without cropping them?
Also espurr's got some interesting stuff going on with her portraits.Please ignore any terrible misspellings with the Pokemon names, I was working on them well past 4am.
>>24825068
Lots of pokemon recruiting is postgame, there's a bunch of legendary pokemon boss battles, completing dungeons for treasure hunting, challenge dungeons that lower you to level 5, and probably some other stuff I'm missing
>>24825075
>doomed
can't be that bad given that every MCminus the Gates onein the series wanted to stay even after their job was done
>>24825079
Thanks!
One other question, I know you can "use" any Pokémon... My favourite is Flygon. Can you really "control" it or is it just more like a companion?
>>24825086
You can control it as a leader in the dungeon. Just not in the overworld map.
>>24825086
You can switch leader in dungeons to whatever you want
>>24825092
Aw that's bad.
But I think you can use Cyndaquil and I love him too so that's fine I guess.
I think I'll get the game, thanks for your help!
Post Carracosta
>All this fanfiction discussion
Fuck it. I'll bite.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6421734/1/Pokemon-The-Unknown-Continuum
>>24825127
>>24825078
>tfw you'll never make espurr blush
>>24825127
>>24825078
how far in are you, anon? i was thinking of starting renaming them all tomorrow but it looks like you're pretty far.
>>24825140
>Mfw this scene
I didn't ask for this, Nintendo
>>24825078
>that dratini
>>24825127
>>24825132
are you shillingbecause so far it's a pretty 9/10 shill, on chapter 3
>>24825156
>>24825144
>>24825140
Why is he so perfect?
>>24825319I am, guilty as chargedHope you enjoy it
yfwyou bet your silly sphere I would
>both teammates dead
>desperately scaping up sparkly floors for emeras
>Ally Reviver emera
is there any possible use for this or is the RNG just pissing on my corpse?
>>24825383
It's an old reaction gif, but it checks out
>>24825434
+5 HP
What is all this talk I hear about rerolling for movesets? What the hell does that even mean?
>>24825592
For dungeons where you start as Level 5 with beginning move-sets and all.
>>24825592
In the level 5 dungeons, if your pokemon has more than 4 moves it can learn at level 5, then it picks 4 at random
>Shitty escort mission with guest Cranidos
>Cranidos uses Headbutt
>It takes 7 recoil damage!
>Crandios fainted!
FUCK THESE ESCORT MISSIONS
WHY WOULD YOU LITERALLY KILL YOURSELF YOU STUPID FUCK
AND THEN WOOP WOOP HE TELEPORTS HALFWAY ACROSS THE FUCKIN MAP AND I GOTTA TREK OVER AND REVIVE HIS STUPID FACE
>>24825622
Slightly related to this, what is even the point of moving pokemon around the floor when they need reviving? In what circumstance would I actually want to do that.
>>24825630
Sometimes throwing around a dead corpse can make you feel better.
>>24825630
Fainted pokemon can block moves, movement, thrown items, etc. They can also be sitting on top of items that you want. I once ran out of reviver seeds and had to move the fainted guest out of the way to grab the tiny reviver seed he was sitting on.
![PC_131223_jh6og_rci-rob-ford_sn635[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PerkleM.jpg "PC_131223_jh6og_rci-rob-ford_sn635[1].jpg")
>On the final floor of Golden Suite
>4 fucking rainbow TMs in a Kecleon shop
>no reviver seeds
>no pure seeds
h-here we go
>>24825849
It's not worth it my man
>mfw the never hungry dungeon walls are impenetrable
>mfw I can't use a ghost type with satiated looplet to cheese these 40+ floor dungeons
>>24825078
>smiling espurr
my heart
>>24824765
>Yeah, the thing with PMD fanfics in general is that they try to re-write the WHOLE game, only with their OCs inserted inside and their "own twists" despite following the script 95% of the time
Oh hell no, that's not what I was trying to do. It was going to be more of a 'quest for identity' thing set in the MD world, with only OC characters. That way, the stories of the games wouldn't be rehashed, and the canon characters wouldn't be derailed by bad writing.
>>24826054
I made it into a custom badge for my 3DS menu.
>>24824765
Guys no think about it
We have an entire affinity chart with cute connections of pokemon that we don't know shit about
Guys please
So I'm at the part of the story with the ghost stories. What do I spend my money on? Since Mini-Reviver Seeds are much more common than Revivers were in the old games, do I just buy good looking looplets? It seems Escape Orbs are much more rare in this game than others. Is this true?
>>24826234
Hang onto the money, you'll want it later
I'm having trouble with the missions where the enemy pokemon runs to the stairs. Is there a strategy I'm missing?
>>24826240
use a Petrify Wand, and maybe some Whirlwind wands to knock them into a corner
Just beat Dialga in Explorers of Sky.
I feel really cheated out of a satisfying ending. The way things were set up, the player was some sort of spacetime abomination that would vanish when the time continuum was fixed and rightfully so. In-universe it technically made sense that Dialga brought the player back, but fuck it was disappointing when what struck me as the best way for the game to end was some sort of epilogue with an unknown trainer in the future with Grovoyle.
I know it's a kiddy game, and that people in it for the gameplay would get upset over the loss of the character they'd been building up, but it still felt so weak after the build-up. When things are set up to be tragic, I want tragedy. Not a cop-out that feels like deus ex machina because of the way the thing was written.
>>24826239
ok, thanks.
And are there any abilities that are considered more OP in this game? Chansey's Healer as proven to be very nice for poison, and Damp was incredibly underrated in the DS games.
>>24826248
There's more story later on.
>>24826248
anon play the postgame. I think you'll feel a bit more satisfied afterwards
>>24826262
Unburden is still as godly as ever, but maybe a tiny bit less desirable due to emeras.
Run Away doesn't make your partner shit themselves and run anymore
How often do you guys use your protags in your team in Super?
>Get Unown, Manectric, and Flareon in MOTIVATION
>Flareon is Sp. Atk based in this game which is fantastic yet not
>It can learn Heatwave
>10,000 Dollars
Should I fucking do it? I need to go to Mysterious Geoglyph and kill everysect eventually.
>>24826279
100%
>>24826279
Chespin is on with Wooper/Ampharos. Cyndaquil comes in and covers for one of them if they head out.
>>24826279
most of the time. heat wave charmander is godly.
>>24826279
shit anon, I'm still struggling with the concept of changing leaders mid dungeon, let alone changing the whole team often. The pokemon being unavailable to explore for the consecutive days seem like a good way to keep teams fresh. I think they hit the nail on the head with that and the preselect teams.
>>24826279
They're my mains, fully 'roided and all.
>>24826279
literally all the time if I'm allowed to
and if there isn't a good motivated team, which rarely ever shows up
>>24826305
I dont like it because even pokemon you dont use go on break
>>24826320
is there a rhyme or reason to the breaks?
>tfw I need my boy Sylveon to go on a journey with me to take out a Salamence who's being a Salamenace
>nigga tells me he's got custody this weekend and cant come
Convince me to buy this.
GTI really killed mystery dungeon off for me with how easy and linear the story was compare to the classics. Does this one live up to those or is it GTI status?
>>24826338
anon all their stories are linear
>>24826338
>Story
>Linear
They were all linear you tool. As for as the game as a whole goes, Super is the most linear since it railroads you on the story
>>24826338
they fixed it, it's worth.
and the main game is more challenging.
you dont have to use the same 2 pokemon all the time if you dont want to
and your schoolmate asks to walk you home just like one of my japanese animes
>>24826338
Just get it. It's better than GtI. The consensus (seems to be, anyway) it's on-par with Sky.
>>24826338
It's the "hardest" if that's what you want, but GTI wasn't really all that much easier besides ditching hunger.
>linear
Literally what.
>>24826336
Might be based on level, but there's no guarantee. The higher their level is, the more likely they go on break
>>24826358
Huh, in a way that sounds comparable to a Pokemon of another OT's obedience in the main games.
Which Pokemon has the best in-dungeon flavortext?
>>24826368
>Let's go in style!
>>24826363
It's shitty though because i'm like level 92 and Ampharos still goes on break despite being in the mid 80's
>>24826363
Yeah, it's the closest they could do since no matter the level EVERY pokemon disobeys you in Super.
>>24826375
Arguably one of the best teammates in the game
>>24826358
The higher their level over the MC's, the more likely they are to flake.
>>24826281
Oh god this was worth it, so fucking worth it. Holy shit, so many levels.
>Name my team "Dream"
>games have always had the word "Team" always before your actual team name
>instead, it's just the word "the" this gen
>I am now "The Dream"
Pretty cool when it say "The Dream and X have been connected!"
>>24826508
You better be using Darkrai/Musharna/Hypno with a name like that
>>24826456
What level do you need your heat waver to be in order to efficiently genocidesect? My level 37 charizard isn't cutting it.
>>24826518
I've been playing 90+ hours, and Flareon was at LVL 59.
>>24826508
That's pretty sick
I had to rethink Team Paheal once I noticed it was "The" and decided to be The Voyeurism
>>24826518
Helps if one of your teammates can learn helping hand
How are you guys doing screencaps? Is it related to Homebrew?
>>24826544
Homebrew, Miiverse.
>>24826368
speaking of flavortext, my Salamence is saying different things. At the begining of the dungeon, he said "Grr, I can still go on" or something like that, then now he's saying "Whoever's opposed to me will burn to a crisp! Well... that's one possibility..."
Do mons have multiple phrases? I can't get him to say the first one again.
>>24826544
it's up there in the FAQ
>>24826593
related to damage taken
I'm thinkin' about restarting in PSMD. There's literally nothing worth doing after you've recruited all 720 species besides hopeless attempts at Sacred Ruins.
What should the main character and partner be this time around?
>>24826636
Special doggo partner
>>24826358
I think it's more relative to your MC levels.
I've been relying pretty heavily on Vaporeon, and the nigga hasn't been on break at all lately, which is awesome.
>>24825342
Okay I changed my mind. Ain't my cup of tea anon, sorry :(
It's like that one time I read that Persona 4 fanfic, "magnificent bastard" or whatever.
>>24826636
Oshawott MC
Fennekin partner
best OTP
>>24824577
>finally recruit ideal third team member
>start heavily grinding to stay near the same level
>mon steadily leveling up by itself in the meantime
F-Fug
>>24826638
>>24826996
So is Fennekin gonna be a husbando or waifu?
>>24826279
Never.
Ever.
>>24822945
Man, I wish that Charmander still gritted his teeth in his angry portrait,and looked less chubbier.
>>24823236
Donphan?
>>24827045
Waifu. Was totally worth it.
>>24827045
WAIFU
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Unless you really like knotty fox dick
So, where's the PSMD animated special episode?
>>24827068
>>24827078
Alright, lastly, I gotta name these fuckers. I'm tempted to just go Oshawott and Fennekin, otherwise I'll name them Anon and whatever you guys decide.
>The Emera Swap trap changed Ally Reviver to Lullaby!
>The Emera Crush trap crushed the Lullaby emera!
Trick and Switcheroo are useless, aren't they?
>>24827124
yep
>>24827109
I didn't name mine
So it's not really great, but it's not bad either..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAOmQ-foqeg
>>24827181
that dub quality
>Ditto in Aurora's Edge
this is going to be a fun ride
>>24827181
Seen it before, I was embarrassed to watch it on TV as a kid not because it was Pokemon, but because the voices sounded like Code Lyoko quality.
>Duskull is connected to Persian
It's the little things.
>Go to Magma Cavern for good times with Groudon
>Get OHKO'd 8 floors in by a Excadrill
>"Well no big deal-"
>No revive option
>in haste to start dungeon, forgot the reviver seeds
>Partner is a Pikachu, third wheel is Psyduck
>FUG
>Kill Excadrill
>Immediately afterwards find Type Bulldozer
>solo dungeon and boss with those two exclusively thanks to that Emera
>Also find some Reviver Seeds thanks to Excavation Looplet
Scariest minute and a half to experience but after that the tension slowly waned. Type Bulldozer is the godliest Emera. Special thanks to that sweet looplet too, best 10 gold bars I ever spent.
I am surprised how little OC there is on PMD. You think it'd be a treasure trove of fictions or fan made spinoffs. Aside from how hard romhacking it is, of course.
Is there any fanart with the starters from Rescue team, including the normal type ones, Machop and Psyduck?
>>24827181
Who the hell is responsible for this? They've mispronounced Minun and Gengar, and called an Ekans an Arbok.
>>24827246
There is a bunch of art and fiction of characters, teams people played as, or OC teams, though. Maybe not as much as the main series, but you're not totally bereft.
>>24827216
>Shiftry mentions it was kidnapped by Zapdos
>>24827268
I forgot about that.
Truly, this is the effort put into PR for thier Spinoff games. Conquest could have been hailed as a masterpiece if a little more effort in the gameplay and an ounce of PR was used.
Fun story- I walked into FUCKING Gamestop to pickup my PSMD, and I inquired about a preorder bonus I thought they would have ( I heard there was a poster or something). The clerk told me he knew of nothing of it, checked in the system, and told me there was none, but to check around town. I went to 3 other FUCKING Gamestops to hear the same thing. One clerk even told me "Hell, I didn't even know this game existed until the day after we got them in." There were no displays, posters, or anything around the store.
>>24827268
Does it matter? It's just 4 Kids. They won't know the difference.
>>24826636
How long did it take you to recruit them all?
I just purchased the game expecting many hours so I hope it was money well spent...
Your adventure is about to unfold!
Anon the Oshawott...
Femanon the Fennekin...
Are you two ready to take your first steps in your journey?
(Any name changes / suggestions?)
>>24827298
I was a lazy bum, so around 150 hours. I've seen people recruit everybody in 40 or 50.
>>24827311
furbait the fennekin
>>24827245
Type Bulldozer love! It's saved me so many times as well.
What's the difference between power boost X and Y as far as attack boost?
>>24827246
Actually, it does have a pretty large share of sparkledog OCs and fanfiction. Also worth noting that it spawned a number of failed Visual Novelsthanks to PurpleKecleon
>>24827409
X boosts Attack when you use it instead of set it on a looplet.
Y boosts Special Attack when you use it instead of set it on a looplet.
>>24827409
X = Physical Attack
Y = Special Attack
>>24827270
Emolga a cute
>>24827291
Yeah, it's actually sort of odd that the advertising department apparently isn't not putting much resources into putting PSMD out there.
No anime specials, no big CoroCoro announcements as far as I know, and no english commercials until after it was released.
Glad to see that the game is selling well despite the lack of advertising. How're the initial + total sales compared to Gates?
>>24825849
>>24825849
do it faggot
>>24827421
>>24827426
cool, thanks. So there's no difference if its on a looplet then?
SO how does Arceus work in this game? Does he have anything that changes his type?
>>24827491
As far as I know, no, but I still equip em instead of use them because as far as I've seen, the power difference is gigantic.
>>24826279
100% m8
im totdile, my partner is chimchar, and I bring along a machop because machamp is my boyfriend's favorite pokemon. and plus when you meet machop he challenges you to see who has better muscles, and my boyfriend is obsessed with working out.
>>24827513
which reminds me, anyone know a good moveset for Machamp?
>>24827513
tell your bf to get better taste in pokemon
Why didn't they put some sort of random mission system? Once you recruit everything, there's pretty much nothing left
>get to Sheer Mountain Range for the first time
So this is the power... of the 3DS
>>24825078
This anon here, >>24824168 unfortunately I already did some cropping with my copy of the portraits and dumped all the junk icons. I could start again with the renaming if you want. Only reason that I was taking so long was the cropping process. Won't be able to start right away though, work and such.
So what's a good moveset for Charmander post-game? Heat Wave is a must, but what else?
>>24826279
A vast majority of the time. Charizard / Swampert / Rotom-Mow, Shaymin-Sky, or Jumpluff.
>>24826279
Currently, all the time. The majority of pokemon I'd rather use I either, don't have, or they're so massively overleveled compared to me I can only use them every once in a while.
Speaking of the protags... Who did everyone get/choose?
>>24827549
Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Focus Blast, Dragon Pulse, Air Slash, and Solar Beam are good choices.
>>24827550
I wish sky shaymin's moving animation wasn't so offputting
>>24827554
MC Chespin with Squirtle partner, evolved them into a Wartortle
>>24827523
eh, he never really got that into pokemon. He's the kid that played red/blue and maybe emerald, but never went past that.
>>24827567
True but I love the Energy Ball snipes and support moves. Earth Power is nice as well.
>>24827554
I got piplup, but I chose totodile (since thats who I originally got in blue rescue team)
>>24827521
Yeesh, Machamp's lacking in the ranged attacks department.
If you don't want to waste Jew Bars on Calciums and Focus Blast:
>No Guard
>DynamicPunch
>Dual Chop (multi hit move)
>Knock Off / Drain Punch (Ghost-hitting attack or healing)
>Bulk Up
>>24827549
If you're gonna stay charmander, you gotta buff up both offenses because its movepool is averageoutside of Fire-type attacks:
>Flamethrower
>Heat Wave
>Power-Up Punch
>Shadow Claw / Dig
>>24827521
Dynamicpunch, Fireblast, Dig, and Focus energy are what I used in Rescue Team
>>24827579
Sky Shaymin is going to be one of the regulars on my 3rd spot, along with Ampharos and Nidorina, eventually. I need more gold bars to bump their stats up.
That said, I could get Ampharos and Shaymin's sp.atk to 255 right now with the bars I have on hand so I might get that sorted next time I play. Shaymin also wants levels because he is like 10 levels behind everyone else. I guess I could feed him my golden banana.
>>24827530
It'd be nice to have, but I think their thoughts were simply that most players will have gotten their fill and moved on once they've played that much.
Isn't it like at least 50 hours to get them all?
I do wish it had multiple save slots, so you could play through the story again and try out different MC + PC combos without deleting though.
>>24827600
>I guess I could feed him my golden banana.
lewd af
>>24827608
>>24827600
I'd advise against that, since other members of your team gain a proportional amount of EXP regardless.
That being said, is there a way to teach Shaymin Air Slash? It seems I missed its level-up, and have absolutely no intention of using the land forme because I could just use other generic Grass-types.
>>24827628
can't you learn or remember it at hawlucha?
>>24827558
>>24827595
Thanks, I'm definitely not evolving ever because my autism can't handle perma-flying charizard.
>Razor Wind Heliolisk
What the actual fuck
>Shaymin doesn't get Seed Flare until level 100
to what end
>>24827644
You should be able to.
>>24827652
:(
Wish Shaymin got Petal Blizzard but Earth Power works well enough.
>>24827652
Energy Ball is already good enough by the time it reaches that level, so I'm not complaining.
>tfw feel empty after realizing all i have left is the sacred ruins
>>24827666
BUT SIGNATURE MOVE
what effect does seed flare even have in PMD
is it a range move? does it hit an entire room, or what?
>>24827679
I think it is like T-Bolt and Dark Pulse. Adjacent.
>>24827686
That's...significantly lamer.
>>24827690
If only it was full-room :(
>>24827690
That's what is was in previous games too. At least it has a 40% chance of sharply lowering the foe's SpD.
>>24827708
Serene Grace is pretty good Energy Ball often lowers SpDef for me.
>>24827708
Well, yeah, but by the time that kicks in, the enemy's already dead and you're left wondering why you couldn't just go for something with more PP.
What can I do to raise my recruitment odds in Sky? I keep killing Mew while wearing the Golden Mask, making sure to land the final hit myself at close range, but he will not join.
>>24827787
Level up to level 91+, have Fast Friend IQ skill. You might have to try a bunch, since it's not a guarantee.
>>24827842
Oh, level affects your odds? Good to know.
I'm very bored and have nothing to do. What should I do? Try to get every mon in Blue, do a Zero Isle South run, or use a random mon in Sacred Ruins?
>>24827879
Try Sacred Ruins.
http://randompokemon.com/
>>24827884
>Nosepass
I guess i can try
http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/dungeon/sacredruins.shtml
>Japanese Name: Sacred Ruins (アッカの岩場 Suffering Rockface)
>>24827904
That screencap isnt the Sacred Ruins
>totodiles scarf doesnt go all the way around its neck.
>it just looks like a random bowtie protruding from its throat
>>24827892
I don't even need to go into the dungeon to tell how Nosepass will do. Horrible starting moves, only getting Tackle/Harden. Avoid.
Rolled Foongus, lets try that
>>24827904
>39 floors
>All unevolved Pokemon
Haven't unlocked it myself, but what makes it so difficult? Are the opponents higher than level 5?
>>24827968
Died floor 1. Starts with only Absorb, and is too weak to last. Rolled Goodra this time, lets see how this goes.
>>24827975
>random fully evolved pokemon
>they deal about triple to quadruple the damage of everything else, and take less damage
>shedinja around
>enemy can kill shedinja to evolve
>>24827981
So I'm guessing that Serebii page is incomplete.
>>24828001
Oh absolutely. There are random Machokes, Braixen, Delphox, Amoongus, Amolamola, and worst of all, Bellossom
>>24828001
Serebii's oddly lax when it comes to completing or updating PMD entries. I'm pretty sure the guys in charge haven't checked out stuff like Glacier Palace: Depths.
>>24828012
Serebii hates the gameplay in PMD and has gone on record saying Gates is his favorite because of Paradise breaking up the monotony of dungeon crawling.
>>24828012
Serebii's list of IQ skills in Explorers is totally messed up. As a result, I don't really trust any of their PMD information.
>>24828022
I wouldn't blame him honestly, but just get a guy who actually likes and played the game 24/7 and have him write it instead of torturing yourself.
>>24828022
>>24828028
>mfw a better source than serebii for some things
>be in an ancient tree miles up in the stratosphere
>theres multiple deposit boxes inside tree
what
>>24828037
Hey Pomf.
>>24828053
It is the will of Arceus.
>>24828055
>implying pomf even so much as tells you a good pokemon for ZIS
What are you guys using for your fourth slot on Shaymin? I'm deciding between Giga Drain and Dazzling Gleam.
>>24828086
Energy Ball / Earth Power / Tailwind / Air Slash, Aromatherapy, or Sweet Scent.
>>24828097
Grass Knot could be useful for certain bosses as well. Giga and Dazzle are good choices as well.
>>24828086
Generally you should go for three attacks + one support move. I prefer Aromatherapy so battles don't go full-on retarded with confusion or sleep hax.
>>24828105
Oh, and it heals Perish Song, if you're particularly made uncomfortable by random certain death.
Giga Drain is good if you NEED a fourth attacking move, since it heals a significant amount of HP with just one use.
>>24828105
Aromatherapy is a godsend.
>tfw I regret choosing my pokemon instead of the quiz one
How do other people deal with repeats in these games? I already had squirtle and wanted something else but now it doesn't feel as "proper" or natural to choose instead of allowing yourself to control what's given to you.
>Doing a mission in Sky
>Have to rescue Misdreavus
>See it moving around inside the walls
>Hold down A+B until it moves somewhere I can talk to it from
>Instead, it leaves the map entirely
>Message box comes up and says Misdreavus passed out from exhaustion while waiting to be rescued
Fuck ghosts.
>>24828105
I'm not high enough level for Aromatherapy yet - I'd like to be able to fit Energy Ball/Earth Power/Giga Drain on there but I think I'd also like to keep the coverage from Air Slash so I'm torn
>>24828115
I think its a good choice just in case you hate what was given to you. Would you REALLY want to be stuck with something you hate the whole game?
>>24828113
speaking of Perish Song, does Healer cure it?
so anons, is there a point in roiding up speed? aside from electro ball shenanigans that is
>>24828188
I have heard that Speed affects Accuracy. I dunno though.
>>24828188
actually landing your moves for one
>>24828188
Speed improves your accuracy, so it's worth it
>>24828199
>>24828200
>>24828201
alright cool, I'll get some carbos from jewfagrigus after I work on the rest of the stats then.
>>24828207
Yeah they are good. Especially for AoE moves
>>24828188
In addition to what the other anons said, I think, but don't know for sure, that it also increases evasion.
>>24828207
don't forget to use the water looplet
Could someone help me?
>>24828263
Fuck, and I just reset my game today. Godspeed, Anon.
>>24828263
I will save you!
>introduction captivates me, I feel attached to the game, in spite of tiny reviver seeds annoyingly being handed out like candy
>schoolchildren fade out for no reason
>get into guild
>do missions, oh hey, this connection orb thing is pretty cool, Sylveon turns into support
>randomly walk into Victini, make connection
>next mission, intrigued by mechanic where you can't bring certain Pokemon with you at random, bring Victini with me in place of Sylveon
>get tasked with taking down Salamence, okay, must be nerfed
>it isn't but Victini helps to take it down with the use of an insane amount of tiny reviver seeds, escort Axew faints, it doesn't matter
>I wind up with Victini at level 19 and a level 50 Salamance when my partner is at level 11 and I'm at level 14, it's way better than any of my other Pokemon
Fuck, this game doesn't make me work for anything. I remember playing through Red Rescue Team when it first came out and being thrilled by the suspense of potentially returning to the last checkpoint. Why the fuck should I keep playing this when I can play Earthbound, Earthbound Beginnings or PMD EoS? Tell me, /vp/. Does it even get challenging ever? And don't give me the "hurr, don't use your best mons" shit.
>>24828312
If they're at a higher level than you, pokemon take breaks during missions for long periods of times. The game tells you this.
>>24828312
Postgame is possibly the toughest in the series.
>>24828312
You're literally at the start of the game. Why don't you play awhile more before you start complaining.
>>24828312
>in spite of tiny reviver seeds annoyingly being handed out like candy
>with the use of an insane amount of tiny reviver seeds
i hope you're seeing the connection here
>>24828263
Finished
>>24828312
If you need that many reviver seeds to take out Salamence, have fun with 50-floor dungeons.
>>24828312
Hope you enjoy the single use you get from that level 50 Salamence for like 10+ dungeons. Make it count!
Build your team to the dungeon/types and moves you can bring with it. You're whining now, but enjoy tackling breakneck bullshit dungeons with base evo mons because your runs with your stronger level teams wiped hard, later on.
