3DS eShop Sale
>http://www.siliconera.com/2014/10/20/shin-megami-tensei-iv-3ds-games-discount-sale/
PSN Weekly Deals
>http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/10/21/playstation-store-update-365/ (if Catherine isn't on sale now, it will be during Halloween sale shit - I can't find the link about those offhand)
>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png
>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S
>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB
>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/
>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf
Old thread: >>84913161
Who doesn't want to fuck Mirai?
>>85058119
thanks anon.
here's the full picture thenexcuse the whole dark souls and oc bullshit
CHIAKi BEST
Hua Po is my waifu.
Shit, the great taste in this thread revives my hope for /smtg/.
Please let this thread be the best /smtg/-thread ever. I believe in you, anons!
Give it your best!
>>85061248PS: best is short for bestiality
>>85061492
That is not a word, anon.
>>85061724
Last time I checked it was one.
>>85060769
Not. A. Problem.PRAISE THE SUN!
>>85061248
Many thanks; I believe in you too.
SMT IF WHEN
I'm a few hours into SMT IV so far, and I'm really digging it. Does Ma affect your magic defense in this game? If not, is there any reason to put points into it if I'm going for a physical build?
>>85062142
If Hathor is a best girl, then I'm definitely into bestiality.
>>85063710
No.
SMT IV has no defense status, just HP.
>>85063949
So I can just ignore Ma outright?
WHERES THE STREAM?
>>85064519
If you're not going to use magic, ignore it.
>>85064519
And Str too.
DX please.
>>85064519
Your stats can go as high as 999 and a little beyond that even if it shows 999.
Luck that high means you will always get a critical, even when they resist the attack.
>finished Nocturne
I feel so empty.
>>85066403
Yes...
Emptiness is all there is...
Embrace it...
Is there any point buying any of the weapons and armor early game in 4? They all seem overpriced for mediocre increases
>>85066865
how early are you
>>85062430
Thanks and that amaterasu looks fucking adorable.
>>85066968
pretty damn early, like a couple hours in
>>85066865
Don't bother, you get a decent armor set for free not too far in the game.
Jesus how much does this game expect you to grind? Came across these 2 Naga enemies who could just one shot anyone on my team
>>85068175
>grinding in a smt game
ROFL fuck off
consider using spells your enemy is weak to
>>85068175
You shouldn't need to grind at all.
>>85068275
>Using ROFL
>Can't find the shift key
>Gives shitty advice
>Can't use periods
Fuck off.
>>85068431
wow youre so cool dude!
>>85068494
>Still can't find the shift key, or use apostrophes
Did children get the day off from Halloween and came to shitpost in /smtg/?
How should I be prioritising my apps?
Are the scout/negotiate ones worth it?
>>85068742
They give you a lot of money, and you can use them on bosses for some fun dialogue.
>>85068570
Nobody gets off for Halloween, it's like 7-9PM too.
>>85067083
>tfw you notice you forgot to draw the ear and now you have a 1 hour deadline to the end of halloween
>>85068494
Eat shit faglord
IF... WHERE
>>85068742
get the MP recovery ones
>>85069048
Ask Gideon.
>>85069304
fuck Gideon yo
If... who?
I want to fuck Mirai
Is recruiting demons in 4 literally complete luck based?
>>85060769
Why does she have a tail?
>>85070012
It's pure skill, dude
>>85070012
Deny them Macca. Give them life stones.
>>85070012
Deny them everything and they join you.
>expecting halloween all year
>just play with a jack frost
>waiting outside
>no jack frost
;__;
you guys lied to me.
>>85070158
She's a SMT II Nekomata.
Persona started at 4
>>85070959
Oh that's cool. I thought it was just the maiden in black.
>>85069786
i wantthat one drawfriend to draw mirai being groped
>>85068808
>You can negotiate with bosses.
How did I not know this.
>>85071492
i want the pedos to go
>>85071713
we're all here
¡Feliz noche de brujas /smtg/!
>>85071226
I fucked up and forgot her ear. I'm sorry
>>85071734
>>85071734
Voy a poner una foto de Spookie en el altar este año.
>>85072265
Muy Spookie para mi
>>85071734
Saludos desde la capital del imperio.
Why arent you playing with the fairies smtg
>>85073247
I did.
>>85073247
There's only so many mitama I can feed her.
>>85073247
>Tried to keep playing Pyro Jack after midnight
>He burns me in the fucking face and leaves
>>85071713
Tell me you wouldn't go pedo for this semen demon.
>Finally get gun
>That damage
You guys said guns were good.
>>85074817
>Getting trolled into thinking guns are good
Never again.
>>85074893
>>85074893
Why would you guys do such a thing
I don't really like whisper in IV, it seems like it makes the game easy to break
>>85077975
There's literally no way else your character can learn skills.
>get to Tokyo in SMTIV
>holy shit this is really cool
>step into a side alley
>monster horde kills me before I can even make a move
>brother has spent all 100+ my play coin reserve and he's only just reached level 10
>>85071492
I want drawfriend to draw Mirai hanging out with her dad/mom
>>85080890
sweet jesus that's one stacked lucy
>>85074817
Use needle skills. Same penetration type, not shit.
>>85081232
Do they atleast scale with dex?
>>85081270
does the pope shits?
Expert Scout and Scout + really make the game fun. Finally demons aren't jews anymore. Now if only the fusion system wasn't all "You don't know which demons equal which fused demon? Fuck you" but you can't change everything I guess.
>>85083286
>You don't know which demons equal which fused demon? Fuck you
>not memorizing the fusion result
git gud.
>>85083339
Same reason I dislike Pokemon. I can't remember that stuff. It just won't stay in my head. At least SMT has the analyze function which still isn't in Pokemon.
Did Devil Summoner 2 keep the Auction mechanic? That was my one big problem with the first game. Really didn't care for it.
>>85083836
You mean survivor? Yes it did. Learn to abuse it along with the compendium.
>SMT IV starts with some old dude moaning
This is hella gay already
>>85084742
Don't worry, it only gets better.
>>85084742
>not liking your SMT gay
>>85084742
>implying SMT wasn't gay to begin with
>We live in a world right now where there isn't a pyro jack version of king frost called the great pumpkin
>>85085408
>>85085408
>Implying
Tit count surpass penis by far, its not Kaneko faults that you take more careing for the dicks.
I've played through part of FES and I've beaten Soul Hackers, SMT IV, and Golden, and now I'm playing P3P on emulator.
Should I pick hard or maniac difficulty because I hear the game is easier because you can control your party members.
Also, should I evenly level up every single person that I recruit? In FES I only did the original three and some battles were tougher.
>>85086197
>implying that these tentacles are not penises
>>85086379
>Seeing dicks in snake heads.
You have far too much fascination for dicks.
>>85086254
Go for the Mitsuru, Junpei and Akihiko Master race.
>>85086534
>Mitsuru
Is she viable now that she literally doesn't
>Marin Karin
>Marin Karin
>Marin Karin
>>85084742
MINNIE MINNIE TICKLE YOUR FARSIN
>>85086670
You control her now so thats not a problem (I didnt had that problem in Fes but still).
>>85086806
Does Mitsuru have healing and/or buffs/debuffs?
Also, is the difficulty increase fair or worth it? (unlike P4G)
>>85086534
>Not Yukari/Akihiko/Aegis
Healer, debuffer, buffer. Its perfect.
>>85086865
She has mind charge and a Diarahan if i remember well. Akihiko is your defacto debufer/buffer.
I havent played Golden but the last time i heard P4G is the most casual ATLUS game since Persona 2 IS. So P3P should be harder than P4G.
>>85086998
yukari is shit
>>85087019
Best healer. Only her and Ken get Mediarahan if I'm not mistaken. And no one is worse than Ken.
>>85087006
I meant as in playing hard or maniac difficulty instead of normal, because P4G just increases demon health and lowers your damage I think, I read here that there weren't good difficulty options.
>>85086998
This seems like the most logical one. Yukari gets Mediarahan and Salvation, right?
>>85087190
Mediarahan yes, Salvation no. But Mediarahan is good enough in most circumstances, and no party member gets Salvation. Yukari is the most heal focused.
>>85087293
I think I'll use your party, it should work, sucks that you don't get Aegis until later though.
Also, I guess I'll be playing on hard and not normal or maniac.
>tfw beating minotaur with walter and after my only buff carrier got sniped in the first exchange
>>85087763
>buff
meant to be bufu
>>85087190
P3P increases damage imput for both your party and the enemies, specially for exploided weaknesses. So if things go wrong, they will go horribly wrong.
>burroughs
my dick
>>85088589
she's so fucking annoying
>shit goes down
>Looks like your quest is going well!
>>85086197
So what?
Apsu is a boy and he has tits on his arms. Ometeotl has a vagina on the male half and a penis on the girl half.
Tiamat evolves into Ym, who is a jellyfish penis man dragon.
http://strawpoll.me/2895603
Oops. Forgot to post earlier. Its a little late but oh well.
>>85088626
She doesn't have emotions. So she wouldn't see a problem with this.Still better than Isabeau.
>>85088757
For every one dick you get 2 to four tits, if you only notice penises the most its your own damm fault for being a fag.
>>85088882
Dicks doesn't mean girls, just like penis doesn't mean boy.
Arioch is a vaginaboy, while Mara is a dickgirl.
>>85089102
>Arioch is a vaginaboy,
Has anyone ever discovered why vaginaboys are so much worse than dickgirls?
>>85088862
i just have a blowbuddy.
>>85089102
So you would fuck Arioch or let Mara fuck you in the ass? The answer is pretty important
>>85089327
How is that even a question? Arioch is totally disgusting looking. Mara is just a big penis.
...Actually. The size difference would probably make both impossible.
>>85088862
Just because you're including SMT stuff in your /soc/ questions, doesn't make it okay.
>>85089140
Still cute.
>>85071734
Hola.
Espero que tengas un buen día de los muertos.
I wish hindu/buddhist gods would take the stage as Chaos representative instead of Lucifer and his devils.
>>85090864
I wish law would be something besides yhvh or his angels all the time
>>85090864
>>85091082
I wish Neutral wouldn't be such a complicated and unfulfilling path all the time.
>>85091082
I'll show you law, ese.
>>85091171
He is Chaos thoughvato
I wish all three sides would have more universal polytheistic gods as their representatives. Its always angels for law, devils for chaos, and a local protector deity for neutral IF that. Elsewise just muh humanity. We were apparently LUCKY in strange journey to have the "mothers" instead. I want some actual diversity. Not just a different angel each time. Or in the case of IV... not even a different angel technically.
I want some actual Buddhist gods as representatives. And even if they won't be "hands on" have some universal polytheistic gods for neutral. Some pantheons who talk about how they don't interact much with earth, but want to make sure that the "titans" are kept away from assaulting humans.
Then some other gods for law too. Dunno which. I'd even be happy with some good representatives from the vile race coming up and being them. We could have a game that's light / chaos vs dark / law, but with some good neutral pantheon as a good side as well.
>>85091254
Alignments can easily be changed.
What is more law than giving yourself up so that the sun may continue to shine for your people?
>>85091302
Too bad mormonism doesn't have an alternate name for Satan/lucifer. In mormonism, satan told God that a good plan for the salvation of humans is to take away free will so that everyone would live perfect lives, and thus all be saved as fast as possible. And jesus came and said that that's bad, since no muh free will. And then satan got mad that his plan was rejected, and turned into the devil messing up the humans in part to show how bad free will was. Such a character would make an awesome dark / law figure contrasted against a light / chaos base.
>>85091673
That sounds like mastema to me
>>85091776
Mastema was the opposite mythologically. He asked for demon subordinates so as to spread chaos among humans. Which is why I begrudgingly admit that shifting him to a neutral angel representative was clever since its arguably a good representation of his mythological form when taking into account that demons represent chaos rather than evil.
Dunno. I want Satan to show up again as a characer. But also want a different group as the law alignment, who aren't angels. Nocturne was nice, but I want things mixed up even in a standard type game. The "tradition" of always having it be lucifer vs the cardinal angels is a bit tired. Especially since in half the games they aren't even law.
>SMT IV Naga fight
>Two crit lunges kill my two demons
>Extra turn
>Another two crits wiping all of my party
Those fuckers are hardcore as shit
Weapons don't affect the damage of skills, right? So unless I use the normal attack or elemental bullets, I can neglect buying weapons every time they're upgraded?
Ok, playing SMT4. Demons not in your active party receive experience, but is it the full exp or a reduced amount?
>>85092074
Fuse a demon with Agi
>>85092564
reduced
>Leanan Sidhe will never smirk at you
>>85092672
What a shame.
Oh well, time to grind a little to level up this shitdemon that evolved a good spell.
UPDATEIm gonna be uploading the pic sometime tomorrowIve got it all planned out perfectly and I think you guys will enjoy itI would've gotten it done sooner but I got addicted to a game for a few days
one more question, do you guys want it colored? I ask because Im pretty shit at coloring but I can try if you all wantthis is for the merkaba and yhwh drawing
Daily reminder that Nocturne is the best SMT game of all time.
>>85093030
>>85091082
Actually angels could work if they went with the less used ones or certain groups.
Like the Amesha Spenta, Angels of Death, Angels of Punishment, Angels of Destruction, etc.
>>85091302
Rahab is pretty much the weirdest one. He's been part of the Dragon Race/Type in the games he has always appeared in, even when he's a member of the angels.
>>85093917
But they already did that in devil survivor with remiel. Okay, so now we've seen common angels AND uncommon ones. By this point they really need to do something new. IV was a good game, but it honestly didn't add much that we haven't already gone over. Other than a neutral angel representative who you might not have even noticed since he's in two scenes.
happy halloween friends
i am drink and not fit to play smti called a girl a bitch atr this party and she left because of it
sorry for blog
>>85094527
Why did you call her a bitch anon?
>>85094527
Tell us more. Living in a wurld of str is one way to find out how stupid it is.
>>85094527
Should've called her a whore instead.
>>85094802
>fujoshits are the shitposters
WOW WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED
>>85094802
>I'm like BITCH IM 28, and she's like I'm 21
You've gotta keep your cool, Turbo Granny.
>>85094802
Sorry, for those who don't know, to clamrify, and also because I'm drunk
You pull a card that says something with fill in the blank(s), and then everyone else plays a card to do so, and you pick the winner from the pile
Virgina Tech was what she picked, even though she didn't know what it was.
She also doesn't know who Nic Cage is.
idk man
>>85094875
Virginia tech isn't this huge thing that everyone should be expected to know.
>>85094868
I don't usually shitpost, and I'm not a damn fujoshi.
>>85094872
i shouldve hit her with my cane
>>85094917
>>85094875
I guess it's just hard for us to keep track of all those shooting sprees in schools.
>>85094917
We live in Canada, so she should've. She was old enough to know it was a big deal at the time.
And I'm not the only one that was surprised; anyway, it just led to that dialogue.
I'm just a vulgar personm.
Anyway sorry for my drunk posting, I just needed to rant. I wish I could've stayed at home and played Freedom Wars.
Did anyone sdo something SMT related?
>>85095104
I played smt4 all night while ignoring all the parties.
It's really fucking good so far, probably my favorite.
>>85094317
Remiel is one angel instead of a group to represent the alignment.
I'm talking about the group as a whole. Like how there are six-seven Amesha Spenta, 7 angels of death including Samael and Michael, etc.
Not just one angel. Besides they tend to use the angels from SMTII at least once in another game. Even Zaphkiel and Haniel show up in Card Summoner, and Zaphkiel is the least used one.
Soul Hackers for example had three of the Grigori's leaders as enemies, and Kokabiel didn't show up because he's still an angel in Soul Hackers.
>>85095104
I lamented over my tiny SD card being too small to hold SMT IV.
>>85095186
Euro, I assume? Glad you like it bro, even though it took fucking forever
wait is cosmo seriously retiring from speedrunning to get a stem degree?
wheres he got hte money for that
So in IV since there is no Def stat is rakukaja useless?
>>85095685
oh whoops wrong thread
>>85095734
Not entirely, but you need to use it in tandem with Tarunda to notice anything significant.
>>85095775
Should I even bother using it against minotaur at all then?
Currently getting destroyed no matter what I do.
>>85095843
It couldn't hurt. Try getting demons with ice magic first, though.
>>85095734
What? As far as I know your Vitality stat is what grants additional defense. That's how it's been in practically every game. Why would it change in SMT IV?
>>85095894
The problem is his physical skills.
I go into battle expecting agi with my fire resistant armor and demons and I get facepunched to death instead.
>>85095912
There is no Vit stat in 4
>>85095953
Oh, well disregard that then, I suck cocks.
>>85095953
Do you even have access to demons that resist phys at that point? I can't remember.
Having Bufu lets you build up press turns and spam buffs so that you can get Rakukaja/Tarunda maxed out as early as possible. Actually, fuck Tarunda. Use Fang Breaker.
>>85096019
>Do you even have access to demons that resist phys at that point?
William wallace is the only one I can think of. Dont have anything with tarunda or fang breaker. Ill look into it.
>>85095054
>We live in Canada
Murrica doing the shitposting, who could've guessed?
>>85096092
you non freedom havers are never happy, huh
>>85087006
>Akihiko is your defacto debufer/buffer.
Akihiko doesn't even get buffs.
Akihiko + Aigis + Ken/Yukari is the only party worth shit in that game.
>>85096830
>ever, ever, EVER using ken
>>85096963
>muh feelings
stop giving people advice
>>85097028
>implying ken is worth using when anybody else can do his job better
>not always having at least one buff and healing spell on at least one of the MC's personae at all times
Ken is worthless.
>>85097074
>implying people use ken for his skills.
LMAO. They use ken since he's so smooth and supple, and I want so rub my dick on him.
short giten update, continued directly from the last installment of This Game Isn't So Bad I Promise
http://pastebin.com/WqSvMN70
>>85097207
What am I looking at.
>>85097246
マンドラゴラ?
>>85097074
Ken is Mediarahan, just like Yukari, everything else is irrelevant.
Wasting turns on MC for healing or buffing is stupid because the MC is by far the best damagedealer in the group.
>>85097293
And what about it?
>>85097316
この悪魔は可愛いなの?
>>85097396
I dont find mandragoras with no eyeballs cute no.
>>85091171
nig u crazy
Tezcatlipoca would be megaten's lawful Aztec in the pair
>zealot/vile
>dark neutral/ dark law
whether or not that's ironic with actual aztec mythology is a separate matter
>>85096830
>Ken
>Worth shit
His light spells are situational, easily replaced by switching persona.
His lightning spells are worse than akihiko's.
his stats growth also focuses too much on agi.
He's shit.
>>85097506
I'm not fucking the ass of something which's face literally melted off showing the skull underneath, so I don't know why its showing it to me.
Upon realizing that I like nice define eyebrows, who has the best eyebrows in SMT?
>>85097207
What is this? Translation? Let's Play?
And why pc98 version not windows?
>>85097563
>Not fucking skulls
Let me guess, you have some shitty 2D female waifu with tits and long hair and skin and all that shit.
>>85095953
I had 2 demons (+MC) with Rakukaja and one with Sukukaja, so my first turn I used all of those then spammed Bufu on it with my MC and regular attacks/healing with my demons.
He didn't put up much of a fight, the only minor issue I had was when he used his multi hit move twice in a row one of my demons died.
At that point if you fuse right you can also get a demon with Sukunda as well, so you can just make him miss fucking everything and never get to move.
>Finish turn of random battle
>Only 1 enemy left
>Jonathan: THERES AN OPENING
>Casts Bufu
>Against an demon immune to Ice
>DEMON SMIRKS
>CRIT KOS 2 OF MY DEMONS
Fuck you Jonathan
I'm going with Walter out of spite
Its true that 4 gets easier later? Because so far is fucking brutal, lack of defense means even level one demons can kill you.
>>85099746
>implying Walt is better
Yes, Isabeau is a retard too.
You have no choice. There's only one path whith no retards.
>>85100817
jonathan, pls
>>85100817
Meh, just ignore the retards and do whatever, anything better than the White.
>>85099613
I was in the same bag, two demon with bufu was enough but for Medusa I had to teach my MC zan and have three zan demon. Fuck this bullcrap
>First Hunter Tournament round
>Crit
>Crit
>Weakspot
>Buff
>Weakspot
Whelp. Time to grind to kill those Pokemon rejects.
>>85101686
Don't get attached to a team. You very well may have to fuse them away to power up for a boss.
Such is life.
>>85102896
Fusing demons for just a single boss is a thing too.
>>85101686
Most demons are like condoms. You should change as soon once they're pst their expiration date.
>>85100418
I'm a few hours into the tokyo part and so far everything after medusa has been a cakewalk. And I found medusa annoying (but not minotaur).
>>85104537
The hardest for me so far was David.
Blight almost always killed at least 1 demon (and poisoned everything else)
And Mamudo had the annoying habit of hitting MC every time.
>>85104537
But why is it suddenly easy?
>>85104803
I think its more that early on its just really hard because you tend to get one/twoshot a lot and dont have access to anything good yet.
>>85104803
I think atlus tried to streamline the game too much. Also with press turn you can kill a lot of stuff before they even get a chance to attack. They fucked up.
>>85104906
>Also with press turn you can kill a lot of stuff before they even get a chance to attack.
Just like Nocturne
>>85092862
Your call drawfag Anon.
>>85104989
Oh well I haven't played that yet. Only strange journey and soul hackers.
So minotaur is the hardest boss in the game then?
>>85105696
He's a Wake-Up Call Boss, like Matador from Nocturne.
>>85102896
>>85103348
Being forced to have zan on my MC is bull
Demon are worthless piece of crap only good at dying anyway
>>85105987
Except Matador is piss easy to trivialize.
>>85105696
He's a matador with a better design
>>85106413
>better design than Matador
Next you tell me Mot wasn't the best boss in any game ever made.
>>85106637
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>85106413
>Minotaur
>better anything
Matador is one of the classiest motherfucking demon designs in the franchise, almost nothing can compare.
>>85106316
..Which is the point of the boss
Matador is designed to make you go 'What the fuck how am I supposed to beat this guy... Oh, if I use these buffs/debuffs hes actually super easy. I guess buffs and debuffs are actually good in this game unlike every other JRPG'
>>85106763
And then they made them suck again in the next game.
>>85106812
Such is life.
>>85106724
How long do ailments last in SMT4?
Can I cure Sick over time by just running around or battling? Or is the only way to get rid of it by curing it directly?
How the fuck do I get past Seraph's Light Wing Barrier in the Purgatorium?
>>85108776
See the color of the shield when casted to determine what element can get throught like if you see its bluish then use bufu (If it fails then its the opposite element, i forgot the logic behind the barrier).
>no money for SMT IV
>suddenly get 30 euros
>friendsof the same alignment as meplan to go back to WoW
I bet this was Atlus' doing.Fuck you, MMOs are fun with friends and WoW is good.
>>85109559
No fuck you for misusing spoiler tags like a retard.
>>85109559
>WoW is good.
Maybe a decade ago. Fuck friends, who needs them.
>>85097848
The only correct choice.
>>85109831
This shit again?
>>85110861
What shit?
Stop typing like a meme retard.
>>85111087
You are a fucking idiot.
>tfw finally get SMT4
I decided I'll stack Luck on my first run, let's see which path I get when answering truthfully, I usually get either chaos or neutral.
>>85110109
Sometimes they're useful to have fun in multiplayer games.
>>85111294
I don't think I ever partied in any MMO I played. Bothering with other people is too tedious.
>>85111294
Where the hell is that pic from? I know the paper design from somewhere.
>>85111431
Escape from Bug Island
>>85111478
Well, maybe not. Thanks anyway.
>>85110861
Not him but it does get annoying when there arespoiler tags fucking everywhere.See what I mean?
So are Fiends mostly the GOAT demons to fuse in 4 like they were in 3?
>>85111663
The Fiends are, for the most part, high level superbosses. So you wont be using them through the game like in Nocturne
>>85111663
I don't think fiend were so overpowered as Daisoujou was in 3 in any gameTrumpeter was pretty good in P3/4 though
>>85111651
Sometimes they are amusing, but it's true a lot of people have been using them way too much "lately".
>tfw jack frost used mabufudyne outside
>>85111663
Check them out yourself:
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Fiend
If I remember correctly Matador in III was good for when you first got him, Dekaja, Focus and 19 agi Taunt abuse for cheesing randoms and all that good stuff but he couldn't really keep up with stuff 8 levels above him, Daisojou is amazing for reasons I'm still incapable of comprehending, Biker was meh, White and Red Rider made for a nice pair, together they have access to Dekaja+Dekunda, 3/4 elemental coverage, enough slots for support skills like Debilitate and amazing resistances, White Rider insta-gibs shit with his Expel Bow too, Black Rider is a pretty good caster, Pale Rider is Black Rider but worse edition, mama Harlot is fantastic and the Trumpeter is pretty gimmicky but still good depending on how you build him, Dante is great for anything that's not Lucy.
>>85112036
He used elwind outside for me
>>85112128he also used that where I live
>>85112128
>elwind
Fuck, I meant Mazandyne. I've been playing too much fire emblems
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>>85112273
>gonna
jack youve already done it
>Not having a pastebin for Shilliconera links
So I'm playing Desu1 and trying the Lucifer battle. His first wave of Megidoladyne wiped out my entire party. Do I really have to grind to stand a chance?
>>85112684
He's the hardest boss in the entire game, so yes.
God IV was hard as fuck until you can fuse, my demons were constantly getting one shotted
The Minotaur wasn't that hard though, even with Walter fucking everything up
>finally reach a shop with better armour than White Samurai
>costs 7k macca for one bit
>only have 10k macca
Why is everything so expensive in the post-apocalypse?
>>85111232
Holy shit the tutorials.
And they say P4 is easy to pick up, that game has shit all for tutorials compared to this game
>Minotaur says that shit he says just before he dies
>fuck yeah beat the guy on my first try
>suddenly MOST UNFORTUNATE FOR YOU
>smirk
>labrys
>crits two of my demons
>all of them die
>kills me in his next turn
I'm all for difficulty but I really feel like Atlus should have made it impossible for Walter to join you in this fight, it's annoying to get punished for the AI fucking up
