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How fares your empire, /gsg/?
This day in history, July 11th:
1174 – Baldwin IV, 13, becomes King of Jerusalem, with Raymond III, Count of Tripoli as regent and William of Tyre as chancellor.
1740 – Pogrom: Jews are expelled from Little Russia.
1804 – A duel occurs in which the Vice President of the United States Aaron Burr mortally wounds former Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton.
1920 – In the East Prussian plebiscite the local populace decides to remain with Weimar Germany.
>News
HOI4 DD17/06
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CK2 DD 13 - Warrior Women
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>Random Country Picker
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# Archive
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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76
>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA
>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54
>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc
>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.2 - 09/07/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk
>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr
>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV
>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar
>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA
Old Thread >>148033190
Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
>no DH
R&I
HoI5 when
Nicky
>>148107237
>Latin
>not european
>>148107296
>no schweiz
memer detected
>>148107031
8th for the superior empire
>>148107126
George
>>148107327
The USA is closer to being Euro than Latin America.
>>148107486
>tfw you have them both on a shirt
>>148107069
how is the old thread not at bump limit yet? (at the time of writing this post)
>>148107486
WOAH
Am I seeing double???
This is like one of those twilight zone episodes!! xDDD
Antonescu
>>148107745
They're wearing completely different uniforms you fucking moron.
so since hoi4 came out but i'm poor as shit i'm playing hoi3 for the first time
I don't know how I did it but when france fell to the germans I got almost all of it
did I fuck the axis over by not leaving it to be defended by the germans since i'm incompetant as fuck
and what should my next move as italy be?
>>148107537
Latin America is the true successor to Europe for having encapsulated the conquering European spirit
Those whites left behind in the mainland were the farmers and so on too weak to brave the seas and impregnate a beautiful Aztec mistress
>>148107854
wew lad
>>148107981
>beautiful
Picture unrelated then?
>>148108170
You're obviously not a true European like those brave Spaniards
Does anyone have a download to Big Square Frames for Vicky 2?
>>148108428
It's in AFPG pastebin
>>148108579
Thanks. I remember it being in the RDS .rar
>>148108579
>>148108428
>falling for the flag frames mod gag
>>148109000
>he wants the majority of the rectangular flag to be obscured by round frames
Multiplayer crack for Hearts of Iron IV.When?
>>148107373
Reminder that the swiss are the mortal enemies of the new Germany
>>148109195
Never, go buy the game.
>>148109195
right herehttp://store.steampowered.com/app/394360/
>>148108371
>spaniards
>european
They're african, lad.
>>148109298
why is there water and shit between them then?
>>148109757
Africa starts at theRhine___
>>148109757
Well, Italy is full of them as well. The Mediterranean Sea wasn't enough to stop them
What did Johan mean by this????
>>148109232
>>148109270
No, fuck you, multiplayer crack for Hearts of Iron IV.WHEN!?!?!
I can't seem to find the EFE mashup mod on Steam.
Is it under a new name now or?
How hard is it to make a custom national focus mod?
Are they just XMLs or what?
Playing as the Soviets; if I ignore the Stalin purge and let Trotsky get frisky, can I get a Trotsky led USSR? Or does it just auto-side me with Stalin?
>>148110431
If you're registered the game on the forums, yeah Trotsky can take over.
What triggers the Greek/Turkish population exchange in HPM, is it being railroaded into when it really happened, like 1920s I think, or some other factors? Thinking about doing a megali idea game so I'm curious how it will work .
>>148110367
Pretty easy
India stronk
>>148112043
I don't fucking get it
Why are you playing in India of all places?
How much of Jutland/Jylland is German clay?
>>148112264
wot mod?
>>148112264
Contemporary is perfect.
>>148110817
???
First anniversary of the "Fuck France" Alliance.
>>148110170
bump
>>148112353
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=631545981
>>148112357
Holstein is my vassal, so just Schleswig-Holstein?
Also curious about Arlon. I'll vassalize Switzerland and the rest of the "German Confederation", and use Krakow and Nitra as Polish and Slovak vassals, and use either Croatia or Serbia for the Balkans.
>>148112264
>>148112678
Scandinavians are Germanic. So, in the spirit of true pan germanism, all of it.
>>148112619
Is the EFE mod dead? Is there a replacement?
>leddit
My first battle with the allied fleet patroling the atlantic. Not to bad, even though my entire fleet had to retire to repair in spanish ports.
I've since assigned 1000+ CAS planes to the region. I hadn't realized how effective they are against just about anything seaborne.
The end goal is of course to achieve at least partial naval superiority so I can send troops over to England.
>>148112264
>>148112810
Actually, the reverse is true if we're talking Aryanism. Germanics (or "Teutons") are Nordic, rather than the other way around. The Nordic race is the progenitor of all other superior races, including germanics, normans, romans and the ruling castes in India, Persia and Greece in the antique...
That is, you buy into National socialist mysticism.
>>148114196
>National socialist mysticism.
Go away Himmler, no one believes your theories anyway
>>148114327
Himmler was based
>>148114408
t. Himmler
>>148112176
Because it's fun to stomp all the Indian countries as an obscure branch of Christianity and fulfill the dreams of Saint Thomas.
F U C K
F R A N C E
>>148114327
Verdamnt, kaufen sie meine hühner !
>>148114561
I bet the Frogs did this.
>>148114646
>86K vs 43K
>Lost
How?
So is there any way to get rid of the DLC verification requirement for the CPR Plus mod for CK2?
>>148114859
Bullshit French generals and their bullshit national ideas combined with Austria doing something stupid like attacking into mountains over a river, probably.
>>148114196
>>148112264
So Ribe, Aarhus, Viborg, and Aalborg: Y/N?
>>148114982
Jesus christ, Austria is even a joke in games.
>>148114646
THE VULTURES COME RUSHING IN
DIE FRANCE DIE
>>148115007
For authenticity, no.
That border you have right there is as far north as any German Reich has ever considered to belong to the German volk.
>>148114859
>>148114982
>trusting alp niggers with your battles
Austrians are on the same level as a united Italy, 2bh
>>148115283
Shut it, Bismarck
>>148115539
Sad Otto was based
>>148112264
Everything. Everything is German clay.
>>148112678
Arlon, Liège, Hainaut and Namur should belong to a Wallonian vassal.
>>148115007
Ribe, Aarhus, Viborg, and Aalborg: Nope. Only Germanic cultures provinces m8.
>>148114513
Noice.
Playing Spain in Victoria 2. Whats the difference between regular Spain and Carlist Spain, both in-game and historically?
Also reminder that the Spanish were actually the first "empire on which the sun never sets"
>>148115730
Noted. I'll consider Flanders too if the Dutch don't want them.
Still deciding about a Balkan vassal/march to along with Slovakia, Switzerland, Poland, and now "Belgium". Here's most of the region.
>>148114513
Did you use a custom start? I did something similar back before the tribal update fucked up viking raiders. I had invaded Lanka and southern India as norse vikings and immediately converted to Nestorian via concubine from Socotra. I eventually lost when I tried to go Messalian.
I've never been able to reproduce anything similar in ironman despite my efforts, just curious how you did it.
>>148116024
>Spanish king has a brother
>He doesn't have sons until one day he has a daughter
>He pushes her daughter as a queen of Spain instead of his brother carlos, by changing a law
>People freak out
>>148116024
Carlist Spain will go Absolute Monarchy
r8 my patented "England-o-Vision"
>>148116214
I'm playing while using the CK2 Plus mod, with a mini-mod of my own design that puts a few of Nestorianism's holy sites in Southern India (corresponding with the location of St. Thomas's arrival in India as well as the site of his tomb). I then used a default start as the ruler of Mahoydapuram, the trade node county in the Indian southeast.
From there, I played normally as a Hindu character, hopping between vassalhood of various rulers before getting stronk enough to form the Kingdom of Tamilikam. Then, as a Hindu raider, I took a daughter of the ruler of Socotra as a concubine and had her do some education to give myself a Christian heir and a couple of male courtiers I could turn into vassals before he took the throne.
From there, I just rolled north, holy warring the subcontinent while keeping a careful eye on when they'd be vulnerable (declaring primarily during large claim wars among the Hindu rulers, or declaring on the occasional Jain ruler who wouldn't get much auto-help). I then formed the Deccan Empire title and tech-rushed Legalism to unlock Kingdom Viceroys.
>>148116605
>he fell for the triple monitor meme
>>148116347
this, and carlists became a traditionalist/reactionary movement in their own right. they started about 3 civil wars and did side with the nationalists during the spanish civil war though franco didnt really give a fuck about them as far as i know
>>148116605
IT
KEEPS
HAPPENING
>having a comfy cherokee game
>slowly colonizing my way towards Scotland who are friendly to me
>suddenly
>England pops 1 colony near my ally
>instantly conquer them
>I have 50k guys
>they war me
>their 5k guys beat my 50k
>lose 21 20+ development provinces in one peacedeal
eternal anglo etc ree
>>148116667
I thought it was changed way back so you couldn't have children flip culture/religion unless educated by someone landed. I'll try that though.
https://www.amazon.com/Why-Air-Forces-Fail-Anatomy/dp/0813167515
Good book.
Recommend other good books, /gsg/ style.
>>148116746
>F R A N C E
>>148116898
I'm playing on 2.4.5, since I hate Conclave.
But I think you might be right. Now that I think about it, I actually broke off the concubine arrangement with the woman I stole, then married her matrilineally to some asshole who I landed, then had their son do the education.
>>148116997
https://www.amazon.com/Das-Kapital-Karl-Marx/dp/145388632X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1468234676&sr=1-1&keywords=das+kapital
>>148117097
It was mandatory reading when I was in school, so I've been there already.
>>148116884
>their 5k guys beat my 50k
Did they have the Maxim?
What's the comfiest Vicky 2 nation that isn't a Euro power, USA/Japan, or Vietnam?
>>148117221
Australia.
Comfy rural industry and Asian adventures.
>>148117051
Ah, that is a creative work around. I'll try that. A shame I can't just use the concubine decision like pagans.
>>148117221
prussia
>>148117221
Thailand? Australia? Sikh Empire? (Playing as Sikh is hard as hell due to lack of wood or iron).
>>148117221
India, that is if you cheat and release them from the start
>>148117221
slovakia
>>148117221
Brazil, Argentina both are extremly comfy due to immigration
South Africa has potential for a strong industry, not sure but you might also get immigration as them if you have enough buffs/modifiers
>>148117290
>tfw you can't be a landed concubine
>you STILL can't RP as some BIG NORSE RAIDER's cockslut
It's been a long time since I've played EU4.
How do I do more than take 2 provinces at a time without incurring the world's largest coalition?
>>148117624
Check who might be mad enough to coalition you and suck their dick so they dont drop under the threshold.
>>148117864
What if they're Burgundy and hate my guts to no end? Do I just have to man up and beat the coalition?
>le Frence resistance
It's the fucking Capital and it didn't even revolt once.
Cowardly fucking Frogs.
>>148117907
>burgundy
Literally doesnt matter. When you said coalition I thought you were talking about the HRE getting pissy and a bunch of minors were going to coalition you.
Negative opinion from rivals literally doesn't matter. Coalition danger from rivals doesn't matter either unless it's multiple independent rivals.
How am I doing so far?
>>148118307
Are you Zoroastrian yet?
>>148117349
>vanilla
>>148118197
Burgundy and a bunch of asshurt Dutch minors. I was just wondering if there was any trickscheatsthat I could do to get them to get fukt and stay fukt.
>>148118358
How do you become that?
>>148118009
bit mad there lad innit
Excellent. Time to find a communist flag for Denmark since they just got liberated
>>148118689
You let rebels reconvert you.
>>148118719
At this point I'm just sad for them.
>>148118791
But not anymore.
I fucking hate Elan!. It's the stupidest NI in the game.
>>148118791
which mod is that?
How do I convert the Ottomans to__.Tengri__in EU4?
>>148118998
It's the 1444 start date for HoI 4.
>>148119026
you have to convert to animist first.
>>148118883
t. white pro
Reminder the airplane and the radio were Brazilian inventions.
>>148119026
fuck you apostate
Doing some colonial testing and this is what I get to fucking see.
>>148119441
>1877
>91
>5
>1877
>91
>5
>1877
>91
>5
>1877
>91
>5
>1877
>91
>5
>1877
>91
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>1877
>91
>5
>1877
>91
>5
>1877
>91
>5
>1877
>91
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>1877
>91
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>5
>1877
>91
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>1877
>91
>5
What ideas should I get?
>>148119606
>Doing some colonial testing
>usually involves unemployment for migration
Hey reddit.
>>148119718
Naval, race Britain.
For V2 uncivs do I get the first education reform asap or do I save up for the universities one first?
>>148119727
Sup 4chan?
>>148118724 here, can't find a flag so can someone post the one from Victoria II please?
>>148119747
No you want to kill niggers in order to get research points faster so the genocide in exchange for reserarch points is what you want first.
>>148119727
Then post your colonies' pops you mong
>>148119718
Espionage
>>148119816
>>148119819
They're shit lad, 4% right now and they're not growing as quickly as I want. Maybe I'll wait a little longer for more pop growth reforms.
>>148119816
I'm playing Morocco who start with some military reforms and I've already annexed Algeria, so there's no-one aroud to genocide anymore
>>148119745
They're my buddies. I need something to dump my admin into.
Now that we all know HoI4 is shit, whats the best HoI of the past? 2? 3? Darkest Hour?
>>148120075
Build ships and go behead some poor pigmented people.
>>148119718
Innovative, economic, quality for space marines
>>148120075
Mauritania then Senegal.
>>148120120
Both are good, DH has better gameplay and 3 has more autism
>>148118453
Holland, brabant, flanders are in a union under burgundy, they are effectively burgundy.
>>148119797
Used the ones in the AFP.
The gang in order: USSR, Mongoilid, Tannu Tuvid, Finland, Romania, Iran, Hungary, Denmark, Croatia, Slovakia and Serbia.
>put one heavy tank battalion in an infantry division
>+24 armor & 36 breakthrough
>>148120884
>heavy tank meme
Why bother? Medium tanks are best for the buck.
>>148120884
That is exactly how heavy tanks are meant to be deployed, in infantry formations where they can be the most useful.
What, you think heavy tanks are for killing OTHER heavy tanks?
>>148120972
Saves research to skip everything else as a minor and the low speed doesn't matter when you use them to power up your infantry.
>>148118307
Always Timurd.
The best kind of France.
AARnon where
>>148121017
Do you think she's seeing Tyrone behind the scenes
>>148121264
How much of France are you planning on conquering?
>>148121091
Did you release and then reintegrate Persia? How'd you survive (if you didn't)?
How likely is it for FSA/CSA to win in HPM?
>>148122065
seen FSA form twice, CSA form 3 times.
You can get somewhat decent chances playing as Spain and undermining the US militarily and by sphering CA/SA, but it's some hard stuff.
>>148122202
out of ~50 games I should add
Rate my winter war
>>148122301
>>148122202
and I'm pretty sure it's from AI glitches every time it's happened
>>148122403
If there is a good Finnish national focus mod on the Steam Workshop, could you upload it somewhere?
I'd like to play as the Finns, but the generic tree bores me. I want more decisions and flavor.
>>148109924
Rezmar has a crack up.
>>148122403
mods?
>>148122641
For singleplayer only though.
>>148122403
>HOI4
>not having completely occupied the soviet union by now
0/10
>>148122687
No, there's a MP crack.
>>148122781
Care to share it?
These are really piling up.
Do you use them for anything but Baha weapons?
>>148122835
http://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=65592
>SteamFix
>Crack for Singleplayer, and Online. Needs Steam running in background.
![g1g7kYz[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Q29So9h.jpg "g1g7kYz[1].jpg")
howd i do /gsg/
>>148123240
>How To Lose Your Steam Account: The Short Animated Guide
>>148123314
bretty gud :DD
>that fleet comp
>64 BB
>1 CA
>4 DD
M A D M A N
A
D
M
A
N
>>148123378
>he pays for games on steam.
>>148123378
the smartsteamemu crack doesn't actually use steam
steamfix does obviously
>>148123378
>he has any games on Steam
topcuck
>>148121601
I increased autonomy in every province that had unrest, and fought the rebellions when they were minor. Im trying to rush for muhgals before trying to convert anything because Im in so much debt and religious turmoil.
>>148123436
>>148123436
You can't even tell his fleet comp since it only shows loses detailed. Surface fleet might be composed of whatever, but it will show the biggest ship type icon in fleet.
>>148122658
Finnish Focus Tree, More Countries Mod, Bitter Peace
>>148121586
All of it, plus the Low Countries, and after that Iberia if there's time/I can be bothered, plus the historical British Empire overseas territories (India + North America + Cape to Cairo).
![L9L1mzF[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PpFUrOl.png "L9L1mzF[1].png")
>>148123436
>>148123560
this is my comp
Reminder to remember the rightful French borders
>>148123436
>2016
>unironically being retarded
![ZeqT3AL[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VgYzpkB.jpg "ZeqT3AL[1].jpg")
should i invade potato island further?
y/n
What are my goals as Russia in Vicky2?
>>148123805
create eurasia
>>148123684
>Europe, white Oceania, North America at top
>Middle East, Africa, Southeast Ásia, South America and the Caribbean at bottom
Fucking white males with their fascist agendas smdh
>>148123805
Reclaim the Mongolian Empire.
Alternatively, the classic Russian objective of having natural borders that you can defend in all directions, rather than a natural highway from Prussia to Moscow that you can get invaded through. So look for big rivers, mountains, coasts.
>>148123805
Global communism.
>>148123684
"no"
>>148123684
Damn, I lost my graffiti saying France for Africans on top of the France for French poster.
>>148123879
Australia is not the top of the world, lad
>>148123805
Lisbon to Vladivostok
>>148120774
Rate my communist central Europe, /gsg/. What should I do with Kaliningrad?
>>148123992
>Australia is whiter than New Zealand
>>148123665
It's ok, but if you want to stand a chance against an alien invasion you have to improve it.
>>148124124
>not the Dublin-Cape-Singapore-Vancouver Square
>>148124157
>Germany doesn't own Austria
>Bulgaria doesn't own Macedonia
>Turkey and Slovakia exist
No sir, I don't like it.
>>148118883
>Quaresma
>just tanned
>>148124157
You should've taken east prussia and liberate czechoslavia istead of giving czhechia to the austrians and letting that nazi puppet around, also why do you hate greece?
![8x9Bnqp[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1ZBBvxg.jpg "8x9Bnqp[1].jpg")
i want Gibraltar but nationalist spain wont give me fucking access despite being a fellow facist. do I need to invade him to take this place? because so far naval invasions have all failed miserably.
Just started a EU4 game as Ceylon. 1510 right now and fuck all has happened. Vijayanagar are fucking strong, conquered Bahmanis and the southern plebs without triggering a coalition, and Indochina is getting unified through Champa and Siam
My only way to expand is through colonizing those nigger islands on the Indian Ocean. Sad.
>>148124596
Try parking your fleet off the coast. The Naval Bombardment bonus should cause it to fall.
>>148124596
make spain join axis and join the war
there should be something in the national focus tree that removes his neutrality
People, is there the possibility to put the peace conference system from HOI4 into HOI3? It seems to me it's the only decent feature they added. At least it prevents border gore caused by retarded allied AI
>>148118883
Pepe is Brazilian and Quaresma is a gypsy
>>148124596
>him
>>148124923
>his
>>148124924
plsbejoking. plsbejoking. yougottabejoking.
>>148124924
sick bait
>>148124929
Brazilians can be white
t. very white Brazilian
>>148125057
but Pepe isn't obviously, it's not his tan
>>148124989
>>148124998
Jokes on you, it's not bait. I'm sort of serious. The peace conference system is logical if you think of it. I played some of HOI4 to this point and it seems easier to acquire what I want when I'm aiming at specific regions when I declare war.
Goals for an Ukraine playthrough with HPM?
>>148125128
>Yugoslavia joining the allies and eating all of Germany
>China taking all of Russia
>Japan taking Turkey
>logical
In what universe.
>>148124989
>>148124998
Also, it happens quite often to me in HOI3 that, for exmaple playing Germany, after defeating russia with all axis allies, they get random chunks of russia in the fucking middle of the territory I gained. It is stupid as shit and impossible to prevent if not via cheating, which is equally dumb. With the peace conference system you have more control on this
>>148125128
the Peace Conference is good but badly implemented, the way that Yugoslavia can annex all of Germany doing fuck all
>yfw HPM purposefully used a proxy to pretend he's not a monkey and posted on /pol/ to pretend he's not the reddit cuck we know he is
>>148125187
Reclaim your ancestral lands
![dj40VCy[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wb6n4IC.jpg "dj40VCy[1].jpg")
>>148124923
I did
but thats apparently not how it works or something?
>>148125057
>Brazilians can be white
Go back to your favela, Pablo
I'm thinking my only choice here is to expand onto Madagascar, thoughts?
>>148125474
Make an empire of the isles lad
own every single island in the world
![FwrKf6l[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ba1YG6G.jpg "FwrKf6l[1].jpg")
>>148124923
>>148125124
True tbf
>>148125471
What if I told you over half of the Brazilians you meet on the internet don't live in favelas and are white/tanned me senpai?
>>148125471
>implying favelados have internet access
>>148125561
>Falange Española
>Franco this old
>Gibraltar takes that much of a land
This upsets me
>>148125746
>half of the Brazilians you meet on the internet are white/tanned
Loving. Every. Laugh.If anything, you're as dirty mulatto
>>148125845
How do I prove I'm white and don't live in a favela, my white master?
>>148126106
>How do I prove I'm white
You can't. You're brazilian after all.
>don't live in a favela
I don't really care about that.
>>148126106
To prove you're white you need to be white to begin with.
>>148126106
Posta pila
>>148125796
They do, they just stay in the Brazilian internet.
Hold out boys!
>>148128305
Poor Thailand
Well /gsg/, which borders are best for Quebec here?
>>148125448
>Ancestral land
Aren't Ukrainians literally Russians who don't call themselves Russians?
>internet cuts out randomly after downloading the EU IV DLC and pirating HoI IV
>>148129268
You should have bought it.
>>148128678
Green plus red plus Maritimes plus Greenland.
>"install HPP it's good"
>crashes out the ass
>>148129268
Keikaku doori
>>148128678
>>148128678
Your best borders are getting annexed by France
>>148128678
If you go for green then just go full march of the west.that's a good idea though, all of modern day Canada plus Alaska.
>>148129389
>Greenland
>Quebec
>>148125187
Get annexed by Russia.
>>148129081
Yes.
>>148130105
Only realistic colony other than Haiti and the rest of Canada 2bh
Anyone ever been in an instance in which you've encircled the entire enemy army which has itself mutually encircled most of your army?
r8 my outer borders, the enclaves in Egypt and near the Levantine Sea will soon be dealt with
>>148123593
>R&I is the LiS shitposter
really makes you think
>>148130297
Yeah,it happens when your army is not fast enough and you overextend too much.
Also it happens when enemy army is much much bigger than you.
>>148130551
>LiS
I don't even know who R&I is but he should kill himself
That's a good trade off
