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No one cared anyway edition

>Patch notes
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_1

>FAQs & General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN (embed)

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Total War Warhammer
Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!

>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)

>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation

forbidden >>147612408
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>147712831
Rollan!
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Every thread
Every day.
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>>147712831
Undead shits can't compete with High Elf and Empire superiority!
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>>147712927
FAT VAMP TATS
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>>147712782
>I prefer Rats

Kill yourself, you are literally the cancer of this franchise
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>>147712986
>inb4 le bacterian joice XD
No, it's just that no one cares about boring factions
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>>147712986
Why are wood elves so low in popularity? I havent played the tabletop personally but from what I've seen they seem neat. Although that might be because I always liked "ranged" gameplays
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AMD KEKS BTFO!

We did it bros!!!
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I don't get it, they're both the same?
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>>147713110
yes
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>Tomb Kings won't be in the game for ages yet
>Already a frequent topic of discussion in /twg/
Truly the most anticipated of factions!
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>>147712950
Your words mean nothing without proof. You can say this game based on 8th Edition, because of the fact that there Bretonia and no Sigmarines, but we don't know if this true or they just wanted to implement Bretonia. So until there proof that this is indeed 8th Edition and not they custome edition with part of 8th - we can't assume that this is 100% 8th.


>>147712898
>Getting this mad because he doesn't want a faction to be in the game
I honestly don't give a fuck about them, but if i should choose between them and something else i prefer to choose something else.
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Re-posting my word-cloud from yesterday in case anyone is interested.
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>>147713078
>>147712986

You mean children don't want to play with under-powered factions require skill and handwork to win with?
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>>147713148
Its just a meme, nobody actually want to play that. as long as there are more awesome factions still missing (like dark elfes and ogre kingdoms)
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>>147713148
I think Beastmen are the most anticipated atm
>poo
>pee
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>>147713259
>Its just a meme

Vamp-fags are this delusional
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>>147713006
Only after you my Egyptian friend.

I can play without stormvermins, clan rats, slaves spam shit, but who the fuck cares about different tactics, when you simply can say that after this kiddo, whom beat the shit out of my useless army, every other players who use this faction are cancer players and noobs.

Go sleep into your fucking Tomb and close this massive stone slab that you call door.
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>>147713110
The Dawi way
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>>147713173
>I honestly don't give a fuck about them
You seem to be writing an awful lot about them though.
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>>147713294
>goat people

Yeah, no. I'd rather get Bretonnia, elves or even the Skavens, beastmen are fucking boring.
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>chaos corruption and chaos agents everywhere
CHAOS SHITS GET OUT FROM MY LANDS
GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>147713464
Well that's just, like, your opinion man.
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>>147713415
I only wrote that there no more TK in AoS, so the chance for them to appear in TWW kinda low, because GW always use games to promote fucking miniatures, and then all the TK fags started shitstorm on me with their assumes about me being Vamp fag.

TK is one of the most boring factions in FB.
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>>147713189
>GREEN AND MEAN
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I kind of hope they give Beastmen something like the Orc poo pillars.
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>>147713464
Skaven are the strongest, most interesting faction in the warhammer universe.
How can the others even compete?
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>>147713557
CA said they want all 16 factions in the game. Tomb Kings already have an army book so are pretty much guaranteed, nobody cares about AoS because the game doesn't take place in AoS.
And
>Stop liking what I don't like
Is not an argument.
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>>147713082

They're popular, the list is for who people think is best mechanically.
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>>147713674
T.Skaven
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>>147713518
Nah it's more like a fact. Beastmen are a shitty version of the chaos army with less variety.
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>>147713674
Skavens are fucking pathetic but at least they get much more variety than the beastmen. Which is probably why we'll only get skaven much later. If they go for beastmen they'll be able to recycle half the roster of the warriors of chaos.
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>>147713806
That's still just your opinion
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SKAVEN ARE THE MOST POWERFUL FACTION

THEY HAVE THE BEST TECHNOLOGY AND CULTURE AND DESERVE TO RULE ABOVE GROUND AND THE UNDERGROUND

EMPIRE AND DWARFS ARE JUST CHILDREN PLAYING WITH TOYS COMPARED TO SKAVEN TECHNOLOGY AND EACH GREY SEER HAS MORE MAGICAL POTENTIAL IN HIS CUTE PINK NOSE THAN EVERY HIGH ELF ARCHMAGE PUT TOGETHER

SKAVEN ARE NUMBER ONE AND DESERVE TO BE IN TWW MORE THAN ANY OTHER FUCKING RACE AND IT PAINS ME THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ADDED

FUCK CHAOS
FUCK ELVES
FUCK BEASTMEN PRETENDER SHITS
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I'm looking at another mod for Napoleon Total War.
Should I go for Napoleon Order Of War, or La montee de l"Empire?
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That concludes it
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>>147713939
The denial is real
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>>147714112

Tomb Kings
Tomb Kings
Tomb Kings
Tomb Kings
Tomb Kings
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>>147714112
fuck, forgot chaos!

But now we know how relevant each faction actually is
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>chaos is closing in
>horsefuckers declare war
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>>147713776
> the game doesn't take place in AoS
Proof, please. Better the statement of Developers that this is indeed 8th edition and not custom where they decide which one add and which one ignore.

>CA said they want all 16 factions in the game.
Link or go fuck yourself.

>Stop liking what I don't like
>Is not an argument.

Where i wrote that you should stop liking what i don't like?
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>>147714192
Yes, about as relevant as Radious and Kislev
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Do you guys use Hunnic infantry or do you go full horsefucker?
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>>147714208
>>147714112
B E S T
E
S
T
M A N
A
N
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>>147714208

> Kings
> not Kangz
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>>147714208
>no Ogres
>but Kislev and Tomb Kings
twg truly has shit taste
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>>147714208
>Chaos most relevant
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>>147714290
Always go full horse fucker, except for possibly one specialized siege horde. You don't want infantry to slow you down, and they can't kite, which is your main tactic.
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>>147713587
>Greenskins wood
Gimgor Irondick truly is the greatest
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>tfw I would have won that shitty quest battle but I forgot to turn down the difficulty so the AI doesn't get bullshit +100000 leadership
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>>147713189
>FUCK SHIT KILL
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>>147714208
>chaos > empire
THIS ACTION DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
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>>147713948
T.Skaven
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>new update cranks up my driver fps from 26 to 46 on a potato processor
>Also fucks up and washes out all colors on everything.
fug, does anyone know why this could be happening?
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>>147713948
GREY SEER THANQUOL, LORD OF THE VERMINTIDE
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Finished possibly the most bizarre TWW playthrough yet. Ended the long play through controlling all of the Dawi territory, but more interestingly finished it with an alliance that included, The Empire, Bretonnia, Border Princes and *drum roll* Vampire Counts. And mind you it wasn't some shitty typical TW alliance where everyone hates each other and breaks the alliance up when a 70 strength faction declares war on one of them, every faction within the alliance held at least a 60+ diplomacy rating with one another.
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ANTICIPATED FACTIONS OFFICIAL TIER LIST:

SCALY/FURRY (AKA GOD) TIER:
Lizardmen, Beastmen, Skaven

HIGH TIER:
Ogre Kingdoms, Chaos Daemons

STILL NOT ANNOUNCED TIER:
Tomb Kangs

POINTY EARED, TREACHEROUS, BEARDLESS PANSY TIER:
High Elves, Wood Elves, Dark Elves

NOT GONNA HAPPEN TIER:
Chaos Dwarfs Dogs of warany expansion of minor races ;_;
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Would adding mercenaries break the game?
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I think I'm about to lose my Empire campaign fuck
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>>147715730

It doesn't make sense for a lot of factions
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>>147715736
How? Did you fuck up the start? That's the only way I can see anyone losing.
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Give me your best Karl Franz /twg/
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what did he mean by this?
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do mods work in co-op campaigns, and do they break the game? eg. desyncs and whatnot?

If they do work, are there any fun ones that are must haves. I just started an orc and a vamp campaign yesterday and I'm having fun. The vamps raise dead in particular has been pretty silly at times for me.
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>>147715891

Not him, but I lost my VH Empire campaign about 90 turns in from just a maelstrom of fucked shit. I've played every faction except Chaos and Empire always felt like I was walking on the razors edge of complete catastrophe compared to the others.

Example, one of the Orc hordes from real early on suddenly farts back into the Empire from the south, with a full stack and proceeds to just raze 6 towns in my core region in my less defended provinces.
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>>147716149
How could they raze 6 towns? Didn't you have walls on everything? A single stack should manage two walled towns at best.
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>>147712986
High Elves were so boring in how broad but still good their roster was.
Not the best but the most consistently good.

Lizardmen a best.
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Fuck those fucking Skaeling, spamming those atrocious poison dogs, horsecock riders, nigger trolls, exemplar skills, raiding every fucking where, while I'm chasing the Everchosen and Prince Cocksucer in useless dwarf mountains with fucking attrition, REEEEE.
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Dear /twg/

For someone who is deeply in love with Attila: TW, please tell me why would buying Rome 2 with all its DLC as it is today a bad thing.

What is STILL wrong with Rome 2 with all the addons and patches today?

Should I buy it or not? Mind you, coming from soneone who adores Attila.
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>>147717008

It's just a worse version of Attila in everyway
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>>147717008
If you're getting the game anyway, why not just get the base game first, try it out, and then get the DLC if you like it?
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>>147717064

But do elaborate, please!
I need some serious opinions, because the comfy setting draws me in.

AFAIK it only lacks - burning, family tree [tho it does have minimal 'politics']... what else?
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>>147717064
Rome 2 setting > Attila setting
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>>147717008

Shogun 2 = Total Warhammer > Attila > Shit of the rest
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>>147717115

I might, but I do want to hear your honest opinions as to WHY.

Read >>147717130
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>>147713078
>more bretonnia armies than VC

I doubt the accuracy of this poll
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>>147717143

Mods
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>>147715891
First playthrough, Chaos ripped right the fuck through the northern provinces, my main army just defeated 2 and a half full Varg stacks but lost 2/3rds of its strength, my other armies are undermanned since I was building up military infrastructure and money generating buildings like crazy, thinking I had more time.
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>>147717008
Really not much is wrong with Rome 2 any more. Of course there's the fact that there's no family trees but you can still get some fairly interesting politics going on. I like it more than shogun 2, because shogun 2 has no variety. I like it more than attila because Attila still and will forever run like a 210 year old asthmatic tortoise with arthritis in its knees. It's honestly my favorite warscape tw game next to warhams now.
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>>147717158

Can you elaborate? I am asking for honest opinions which are elaborated upon.

Total Warhammer is great, I admit, but to put as high as Shogun 2? It's basically Rome 2 / ATTILA styled TW with mechanics cut and spread among the factions to make them diverse. And then not all is there.

Sure, the setting is awesome and it has that comfy HOMM thing going for it.

As to Shogun 2 - I actually like Attila more.
As why does Shogun
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>>147717265
...are unfinished buggy mess.
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>>147715605
>NOT GONNA HAPPEN
>Chaos Dwarfs
I hate this meme, they'll be in.

Yes to everything else though, fuck elves
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>>147713102
Any improvement in performance if you're not SLI?
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Personally I always get annoyed when I play Rome 2 because there's no building browser, you can't see what your generals/agents abilities build towards and the encyclopedia is beyond shit.

The core gameplay is good enough, but it's the small things that really drive me up against the wall and prevents me from enjoying it.
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>>147716064
>Peace is for the weak!
>Are you weak?
Well anon, are you?
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What is Rome 2 missing from Attila?

I seriously would like to know.
Can someone tell me?

Family trees are missing, burning on the battlefield is missing, razing is missing, religion is missing (tho it has culture in its place).

Anything else? Because truth be told, TW has more shit cut, and people seem to love it (I do too, just wondering whether I should get Rome 2 and not be dissapointed).
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>>147715762
Except that mercs are from every race too, including orcs and undead.
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>>147717443
meant for
>>147717226
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>>147717361

I don't know but there is this >>147714960
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>>147717443

Oh, so no building browser as in Attila?
OK, first honest to god argument.

Anything else?
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>Turn 267 as Dawi
>Only one faction left that doesn't even control 1/3rd of the map; Brittonia

Sigh. I finally got good, got my dream armies set up. Some for demolishing forts and structures, others specialized for anti infantry, yet I can't even flex my muscles. The game peaked way too early (turn 84) and now I'm left as a super nation with no challengers.

There needs to be more end game content or at least, some AI function that acknowledges you can take on multiple stacks of high end units en mass now. Orcs never got their giants or Araknaroks, Chaos went without Dragon orges and such, V.cunts never got more than their infantry. It just FEELS like there is a lot more content I missed out on.

I am the king of a single person empire.
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>try out chaos expecting fast paced map domination and battles
>every enemy lord has 20 units of missile calvary set on skirmish mod
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>Druchii still not announced
WAKE ME UP
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>>147717562

There is too many small things to list, suffice it to say Rome 2 is missing a bunch of features added into Attila
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>>147717319
>It's basically Rome 2 / ATTILA styled TW with mechanics cut and spread among the factions to make them diverse.

>Flying units
>Magic
>Corruption
>Quests
>Waaagh
>Grudges
>Manually guided artillery projectile/goblin
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>>147717667
>chaos invades
>every chaos army has 12 units of marauder cavalry on skirmish mode, 2 units of trolls and the rest are cheap ass marauders

JUST
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>>147717319

Why are people so obsessed with S2, yeah it was polished but it's just an overall boring and bland game. How can people enjoy playing with identical factions all with only the 3 same type of units.
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>>147717319
>It's basically Rome 2 / ATTILA styled TW with mechanics cut and spread among the factions to make them diverse. And then not all is there.

Half of the new features have never been in a Total War game before.
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>>147717484
Thats about it.

It isn't a bad TW at all, it has much more features than WH
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>>147717851
>implying the gameplay and your armies don't change depending on what clan you play

Faggot.
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>>147717562
Generally, the issue with Rome 2 is that its UI is terrible.
You want to know if it's better to build a market versus building a temple? You don't know unless you either waste time and resources to try it out or go looking trough the encyclopedia, which is a nightmare to look through because of the huge amount of factions in both the main game and the various campaigns. Not to mention it is slow as shit and not always correct.

You want to know if you should give your general/agent/army upgrade A or upgrade B? You don't know which one is better since you don't know how well they scale with their later upgrades and you have no way of knowing what other upgrades they lead into. This makes planning ahead really hard to do without alt-tabbing out and looking for the information on the internet - if you can even find it.

Then there's some more subjective shit, like I personally hate the unit and building icons and I think the campaign map is really empty and boring to look at.

And I almost forgot about the corruption mechanic. Granted, I haven't played it in a long while, but I remember the corruption being capped at 95% or so, meaning you're making no money late game and it just stops your momentum when taking over the undeveloped provinces of the AI. There's nothing to stop you from blitzing a faction, except if would bankrupt you from the increase to corruption. This can of course only happen once, but it can completely kill your campaign if you're no prepared for it.

And then there's the garrisons. With the emperor edition they ruined the garrisons in the game. Any city will never have more than 10 units defending it (of which you'll always have 2-4 units of plebs or equivalent, which are useless), even when upgraded to the max, meaning you're completely dependent on your armies to defend your shit. And this also means you don't face any resistance and can just zerg an entire faction once you break their armies.
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>>147717851
Makes for great screens and rp for me, plus you have the middle ground between Empire/R2 grand campaign that covers half the world and the peninsular/aoc/whatever smaller campaigns, which can be nice sometimes if you want more detail but still have more breathing room.
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>>147717851
what the fuck are you on about?

a spear unit is still a spear unit in rome 2
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>>147716254

The stack was mostly big uns, big un boar riders and about 6 units of trolls. Shit rolls over garbage empire garrisons. The only one that did any damage was the one town I had a Reiksfort in it. Their general was some how fucking level 17 also
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>>147717851


>he doesn't know about Takeda Motherfuckin' Shingen

kys famalam
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>>147718227
That is why history is a terrible setting for total war games.
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>>147718810
They should really stick to things like 40k and LotR
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>>147718848
They should just fucking stick to WHFB.
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Well I learned never ever to take vassals. Enemies are like weeds got to exterminate them all or they will build up 3 stacks and randomly declare war against you.
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>>147716064
STUMPED
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>>147719710
You have to treat your vassals nicely. The game tries to deteriorate your relations as it goes along, and you have to continuously manage it.

I had great use of having that green Vampire faction as vassals during my Vampire campaign. They roamed my home area and fended of intruders, and once in a while sent some stacks up north and slapped Chaos and Norscans for me
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>>147720380
I should of bribed them, they declared war after I made them my vassal shortly after I dominated them. What was really annoying was the last property I allowed them was corruption free and by all means they shouldn't have been able to raise 3 stacks, but the ai cheats it's ass off.
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I JUST FUCKING REALIZED I CAN UPGRADE A SKILL MULTIPLE TIMES
FUUUUUUCK
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>>147721648
All it does is improve cool down, it's useless.
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>>147721719
I think he meant in general.
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>>147721719

Most of the ordinary skills are utter shit if you don''t max them.
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>got right outside of varg camp as kholek before getting absolutely fucking destroyed by a giant army of super units
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>>147714146

You have issues
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why does warhammer feel so bare bones and tiny. future dlcs and updates are gonna have to really salvage this shit
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Do hero bonuses stack? Ex: i put 4 necromancers in a province and they each have +15% to income.

Also do balefires stack? Should i only build one in the capitol or one on every minor city as well?
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>>147722818
Buildings stack.

I'm not sure about heores, though. I know their deploy bonus no longer stacks, but I don't know if their passive bonuses still stacks.
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>>147713110
yes, the dwarven way
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>screams internally
I don't want to lose my Daimyo
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>>147723792
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>>147723792
Then you shouldn't have fucked up, son.
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>border princes don't let me pass
Fuck off, I want to remove greenskins
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>>147723792
>tfw you finish your whole campaign with the starting daimyo
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>>147722405
> Marauders, dogs, and trolls
> super units

Get a fire Sorceror if skirmisher cav gives you trouble.
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What skills are most important for mannfred? I'm afraid I'm going to miss out on some key stuff because of the limited skill points.

In fact, is there a general rule of thumb for what stuff to take over others when it comes to lords?
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>>147712894

keep on rollin'
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>>147724464
Definitely go for 3 ticks of replenishment.

Death spells you need not go farther than Fate of Bjuna, vortexes are ass. Aspect of Dreadknight and Doom and Darkness are useful too.

In Vamp lore, the passive one is good, as well as Raise Dead. Gaze of Nagash is a bit tricky to use with terrain, but the Zombie Dragon solves that. You might want to go for Earthing if you plan on a lot of overcasting.

After that, I just went straight into melee skills.
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>>147724282
i had just fought a battle destroying one of vargs capitals and was pretty wounded

i encamped and suddenly this huge army appeared and raped me twice
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>He lets his greatswords receive aa charge
>He uses his greatswords as line infantry

What the fuck is wrong with people?
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>>147723943
True though I didn't have much of a choice seeing as everybody declared war on me the second I went independent so my troops are spread pretty thin. Thankfully my fleet is keeping reinforcements away from the mainland.

>>147724249
Best feel. Hopefully i can win this
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>>147724948
>he still uses non-GS infantry by the time GS are available

What are you, a poorfag?
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I should re-install Nappy or Empire again one of these days.
They were always fun, and I usually won all the battles I fought, but despite that, I never actually felt like I was good at the game.

Anyone else feel like that?
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>>147725042
Nope but my dire wolves and Cav like how your ass and side and front taste
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>>147724948

Greatswords are better line infantry than any of the line infantry units
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>>147725042
>he doesn't forge a massive anvil out of halbardiers, then hammers the enemy infantry with greatswords
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>>147725356

>Hammering with anything that isn't Demigryphs

Halbardiers are a waste of slots
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Is there anyone who plays multiplayer battles? Which one is most op shit to avoid? Which one is most fun shit to play?
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>>147725094
yes NTW was quite hard even though you didnt lose it was atleast a challenge. I think its the nature of the warfare, in melee games you win easily by hammer and anvil every time. In gunpowder games you're primarily being shot at and TW ai is quite good at shooting.
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>playing Chaos VH and it's impossible.

seriously Skaelings have SIX (6) stacks at turn 30. How the fuck am I supposed to defeat that?
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>>147725235
Good thing I'm using GS and not shit infantry.
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>Enemy breaks before your handgunners can flank and I can watch

ITS NOT FAIR!
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>>147725793
TW AI was awful at shooting especially ETW. Also your forgetting that archers exist in previous TW titles and Archers have always been the most cost-effective unit in any pre-industrial revolution Total war.
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>>147726000
>enemies break before the battle even gets good

there needs to be a to the death mod or at least less chance for fleeing
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>>147716064


He was fishing for info, he played you anon.

The CA Total War AI has achieved self-awareness.
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>>147726339
this
he was testing your war resolve.
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>Pyrrhic victory
I call bullshit.
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>>147726213
No everybody basically agrees the AI in this game is built for shooting not melee

The ai in general is embarrassingly bad and CA should be ashamed
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How playable is ETW with Imperial Splendour?
I dislike the focused frame and timespan of NTW.
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>>147725793
It's more a case of higher lethality really. In melee-focused games you usually can reliably form a main line of hardy troops and have it receive the brunt of the enemy force, and if you put better troops in the main line they're most probably going to perform much better. In Empire/Napoleon even the lowest unit can shoot your men dead if they get close, arrows are more lethal than what you're used to because of no armor, and melee is quick and brutal for the same reason. If you put grenadiers or guards in the main line they're going to win a fair fight against line infantry but at a much higher cost than what a dismounted knight unit against spearmen would, so you have to use them differently.

tl;dr everything is a glass cannon, or just glass
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>Empire starts in 1700
>United Kingdom is a starting faction
>no Act of Union event to merge Scotland and England in 1707
>mfw

My historical autism knows no bounds.
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I'm running on a 6600k and I'm disappointed a bit with the performance. Anyone else?
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>>147726497
I don't really share your certainty that you could afford to lose 500 more men with that army anon, but who am I to judge?
>>147726512
I'd rather suggest Darthmod with the playable minors mod, no doomfilter, more immersion and any faction has a good roster to play with.
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>>147726694
Does DM also give the various factions recognisable strengths and weaknesses?
Like Russia being good at melee and Prussia being good at shooting the shit out of me?
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>>147726570
scotland is really just england
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>>147725356
That's completely retarded
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>>147726570
CA have got more historically accurate over time but people still bitch.

Well, the factions have, the units in Attila started getting fantasy tier but at least the factions were right
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>>147725356
It's alright anon I feel you, some of these guys here are just tryhard gaylords with NO BALLS. They can't pull off anything flashy or glorious if it hurts their chances of winning due to a lack of aforementioned balls.
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>>147726785
Yes, both in stats and unit numbers quality is going to be differen between nations. Playing against russia is a short stand before they affix bayonets while going against austria means the usual stand and shooty. Curiously enough prussia tended to get up close and personal pretty often against me, but the infantry charges were well timed with death's head hussars so there's that. It probably just all clicked into place but it was a pretty "oh shit" moment when they just ignored one of my flanks like that and collapsed the other switching the battlefield by 90°
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>>147725963
You defeat it by ________________git gud__________________________
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>>147726000


Fucking this. Battles are so retardedly fast in Warhams that you barely have time to hammer and anvil before one side or the other have broken.
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anyone have a link to that website with all the total war tactics? like shoot to the right etc. etc.?
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>>147726000

>not surrounding enemy armies and massacring them the last
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>>147727146
That sounds fun. Maybe I'll finally try to play as Prussia, the idea of having high quality units sounds pretty fun.

Any tips?
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>>147727206
use radius mod.
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>>147727310
Don't
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>>147727303
Tips about what?

In general I'd say that playing as prussia is sort of like playing as some minors at start, you're surrounded by a bunch of factions that could all gang up on you if you're weak. At start you don't want to slowly build up your economy but get a big strong army going so that your power ranking will make AI minors think twice before dowing you. While you're weak at start no one will want to trade with you, that will change once you become one of the big players. Sometimes the AI will just dow you no matter what right after you conquer a region, don't be afraid to actually give that region to them in exchange for money, peace agreements and anything you want, they'll stop bothering you. The AI almost always won't betray you when it has military access, you can use 20 turns concessions to get better diplomatic leverage. When in doubt on how to develop a settlement, build schools.
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>>147727310
>Chosen Armoured Hex Demigryph Ironbreakers (Great Weapons, Trollhammer Torpedo)
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Can someone post the Bretonnia horse, Empire knights with Dawi Trollhammer Torpedos on their shoulders, not on hips?
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>>147725963


Skaeling are like Kislev and Tilea/Estalia/border princes. A low-tech version of another faction.

So if you think about it they can't field the really good stuff like chaos knights, mutant trolls, daemon cannons etc. etc.

This opens up several new dynamics in your favor on the battlefield.

So with that in mind you have to git gud.
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>>147727572
>>147728307
?
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>>147729308
I ask you: Do you want total war? If necessary, do you want a war more total and radical than anything that we can even imagine today?

Radious mod is not a mod to be taken literally. It is saturated with an abundance of metaphors and symbolism; some painfully and intentionally obvious whiles others painfully subtle. It is not particularly intelligent and never makes any attempts at being profound. Although occasionally nonsensical and gratuitously pornographic, it would be wrong to judge Radious mod on its face value alone.

Radious mod is the ugly duckling: scorned for unsightliness, but an ethereal swan from the start. It is a fairytale of vibrant colours and simple joys. It truly is that brilliant painting of which a fleeting glimpse you catch, but an enduring impression you get.

In conclusion, I do not think Radious mod deserves all the ridicule and hatred that is being dished out. The stringency and inadaptability of the traditional historical and lore friendly approach practiced by so called "understanders of strategy" is to blame for this. Hoc salsum esse putas? fugit te, inepte: quamuis sordida res et inuenusta est. Radious mod is unshackled from such rigidities and doing so through homosexuality rather than the vapid norm, it sheds light on the enigma which has eluded psychologists for centuries.

Nun, Volk, steh auf und Sturm brich los!
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How do you fix it?
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>>147729298
sure but 6stacks of chaos marauders, posion warhounds, chaos chariots etc will still rek my one army of chaos warriors
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>>147729458
Why would you write this kind of shitpost to look smart. Couldn't you say that Radious mod considered shit for?
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>It's a Skaeling fucking shits army with literally nothing but marauder horsemen and warhounds against a standard formation Empire army

fucking why fampino
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Would this pc be able to play warhammer on ultra?
Would a newer graphics card be needed?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Freshtech-F2A68HM-HD2-Motherboard-Performance-Certified/dp/B00UC9YI1Q/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1467909955&sr=1-4&keywords=gaming+pc
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>>147729308
>Greatsword Thunderer Pegasus Knight Black Orcs (Shielded, Greatweapons, Flying)
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>>147729903
Like this.
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>>147727310
>armored hammerer slayers
this one isn't even fake
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>>147729903
You don't
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How the fuck did it take that long to develop bayonets that you can have fixed while firing?

You just put a knife under your gun

holy shit europeans are fucking retarded
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NO

SLEEP

TILL BEASTMEN
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>>147730704
It's sad to see that all that hindsight and cumulative knowledge really didn't help you being less of an idiot.
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>>147730907
>People want a worse Chaos/Greenskin combo race
smfh tbqh
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you could've stopped it...
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>>147729903
You don't, it was just too pure and perfect for this world
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>>147731724
Reminds me of the aoe cheat actually, could we get something like that?
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>>147730104
Uninspired and repetitive as mods nowadays are, many a disillusioned fan don’t hesitate to call out the medium as fallen. Along comes Radious mod, the latest entry to modding self-critique and introspection.

On the surface Radious mod seems like your ordinary mod which is seemingly unremarkable but whose charm is so irresistible yet so subtle, that the people who've played it cannot but fall for it, much to the frustration of some self proclaimed "understanders of strategy" who cannot see any logic to these affections. Os et labra tibi lingit, Manneia, catellus: non miror, merdas si libet esse cani.

Unlike our hack-ridden mod industry, Radious Mod uses metaphors in an excruciatingly subtle way. Sharp-eyed spectators should be able to spot the humanistic properties Radious mod displays. Radious mod is a self-aware and self-referencing work. It points out the flaws and implausibilities which often plague its genre, yet offers no alternative. Though criticized for conforming to its genre without innovation, composing the rest of the mod with uninspiring features essential in achieving what Radious mod wishes to do. While it does highlight the unrealism which plagues the modding community, it also serves to illustrate the irrationality of passion and infatuation, which which is shown by the hatred often spewed at this masterpiece. Poor Radious is left with naught, but to hunger evermore.

The team is aware of the flaws and tropes in their work, but artistic integrity has to be weighed against the harsh market. Even so, no artist wishes to make hollow trash as much as “understanders of strategy” so often may think. Behind these stories are genuine emotions, far more so than half-assed criticisms by blind followers of objectivism.

I don’t think this mod justifies an arbitrary rating of stars; it’s much better than that. It deserves a place among the highest modern philosophical works of our world. "Nietzsche, thy name is Radious."
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>>147730704
How the fuck did it take that long to develop a spear?

You just tie a sharp rock to one end of a long stick

holy shit cavemen are retarded
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>>147731465
Sure do.

Ya chaos has the higher tier infantry (that can never pay for itself). But Beastie Boys have missile infantry, more access to frenzy, maybe be like Picts with the whole all vanguard and they have interesting monsters with ranged attacks, access to better monsterous infantry and base flying units that should be a decent combatant.

Should be a fun shock faction. Less talking, more raiding.
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>>147732295
How the fuck did it take that long to develop a sharp rock?

You just hit a rock with another rock until they get sharp

holy shit homo sapiens are fucking retarded
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>>147732295
Cavemen WERE retarded so are you agreeing with me? Fucking worthless whitey aren't so smart afterall.
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>>147732585
WE
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>>147730957
>>147732547
>>147732295
>implying it is not inferior genetics that caused this lag in technology
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>>147732714
WUZ
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>>147731724
>>147729064
ty
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>>147732714
>>147732821
THIS MEME DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT
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>>147732585
If they were retarded they would still be running around in furs n sheet waiting to be conquered by a superior civilisation that got bored with sitting in their old lands
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>>147733093
SUMMON THE ELECTOR KANGZ
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>>147732295
Pre-historic humans had to fight the elements and had to develop the tools to create progressively more advanced tools that would eventually allow them to create spears WHILE ALSO still developing their brains and actively adapting to their environment as they left Africa.

18th century white people had already made bayonets, but you had to stick em in your gun which is fucking retarded.
I can make a bayonet with a butter knife and duct tape nigga these Europeans had entire nations of wealth and ingenuity behind them and didnt make a non-shit bayonet until way later.
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>>147733408
Congrats.
With the benefit of evolution, education, knowledge of history and modern technology, and the power of hindsight, you are smarter than someone from 300 years ago!
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>>147733408
Swords and hatchets hadn't completely lived out their usefulness by that time, weapons like that would have still been used in close quarters so you could say they just had bigger concerns really.
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>>147712927
>Veiny tits
>Pampered flour facemask.
>Aesthetic beautymark on tits and on upper corner lip.
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pls post the toddbringer pic when you see him from the back while walking towards an empire force.
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http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?731465-WARHAMMER-Radious-Total-Units-Mod-%28Released-30-5-2016%29&p=14991417#post14991417

give me 1 reason why you aren't using this
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>>147733245


>Elector Kangz

oh lawd
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>>147712831
so what's going on with tabletop? they canceled everything and now they have this Warcraft flavored thing people call Shitmar?
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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?
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>>147730907
>poo poo
>pee pee
>where's the Beastmen DLC?
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>>147734356
I'm not a filthy casual?
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>>147734356
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>>147734976
Pretty sure beastmen are going to be released with the Wood Elves since they are sworn enemies and they pretty much fight and dwell in the same woodland area.
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>>147733408
>I can make a bayonet with a butter knife and duct tape

Good luck field testing that
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>>147712894
roel
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>>147733408
>Pre-historic humans had to fight the elements and had to develop the tools to create progressively more advanced tools that would eventually allow them to create spears WHILE ALSO still developing their brains and actively adapting to their environment as they left Africa

Too bad that the ones staying there didn't get any of that.
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>>147735626
fug off lucas
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>>147735429
When CA's dlc plan is still unchanged we'll get Beastmen first with a mini-campaign in the Drakwald forest.
Then I guess Bretonnia and after them the Wood Elf mini-campaign in and around Athel Loren (also with Beastmen)
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>tfw reading through the faction list on the steam page before it came out
>tfw no chaos
>tfw jokingly assume they'll be released as day 1 DLC because they're the most popular faction in Warhammer
They actually gone and done it huh?
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>>147734356
>Black Arrer Boyz
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>>147734976
I like my spam better, Beastie Boys are a good faction nickname and the orcs are better known for shitting on things than Beastmen
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>>147735327
looks good to me
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>>147735878
They were free for the first week or when pre-ordering

>>147734356
>Skeleton Archers
It's time to kill this guy
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>>147735878
Welcome to 7 months ago. How's that rock treating you?
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>>147735327
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>>147736084
>>147736040

whats wrong with skeleton archers
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>>147736597
>what's wrong with armored Slayers
>what's wrong with Warriors Priests riding Chaos Manticores using Grenade Launchers
It's simply against the lore/rules of an formerly established fantasy universe.
How about Roman Mounted Legionnaire Archers? Sounds great, don't you think?
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>>147736597
There's a reason VC don't have ranged units.
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>>147736597
game balance and faction variety, everyone having the same unit types is just boring and no tw had that
well, except for shogun 2
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>>147736978
which is
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>>147736597
Making every faction decent/good at everything makes them just reskins of one another offering no critical thought of what are your comparative advantages over your enemy are as well as managing your weaknesses to that same faction.

And its that same idea that is every single radious unit mod. Make everyone decent at everything. Whats next imperial giants to "make up" for empire's lack of monsters?
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>>147734356
who should I play as
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>>147737157
You have too many mounts around the empire roster to say that they don't get monsters
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>>147736597
Nothing. There is nothing wrong with skeleton archers. They should be shitty to keep faction flavor, but there is nothing in lore saying SKELETONS COULD NEVER EVER TAKE A BOW AND SHOOT IT. FIGHT IN MELEE, BLOCKING, STRIKING AND DODGING - THAT'S FINE, BUT SHOOTING AN ARROW? NUH-UH.
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>>147737416
Everyone has flying and monsterous mounts anon (aside dorfs), not the point of the post either.
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>>147736597
Skeleton archers are property of Tomb Kings.
Do not steal.
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QUICK QUESTION TOTAL WAR NERDS!

How many armies should I be fielding during the Chaos invasion ?
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>>147737727
But the empire is THE decent at everything faction. Their point used to be THE COMMON MAN AGAINST ALL ODDS and using combined arms, but instead they get monster mounts as regular units instead of heroes only like if they were fucking ogre cavalry, and their top units shit over the others in the game 1v1.
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>>147737721
They had archers.
They where so incredibly awful they NEVER got used.
Literally worse than gobbo archers.
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>>147737416
>horse
>barded horse
>pegasus
>deathclaw

Only one is actually gives you a big boost to your army's effectiveness with raw damage and a significant HP boost, the other 3 are purely for mobility.

What are you smokin bruv?
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>>147737934
27
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>>147737979
Not sure what you are hitting at here.

I agree their base infantry is too good right now, even more so when considering their costs. Demis are supposed to be really rare but that stipulation isn't really enforced so you see them all over the place.

The other monsterous mounts are all on lords and heroes which I don't have a problem with
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>>147737934

1 at least
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S L A A N E S H
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>>147738701
depend of your faction

but field 3 armies: one to stop the norscan invasions, one to kill minor chaos armies and a big one to fuck them up, supported by the previous one
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These poor skeletons are being bombarded by Imperial bully-class meanstorm rockets.

1 like= 1 prayer
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Warhammer killed this general
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>>147739321
>muh gook memes!

good ridance
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>>147739321
>look at all the constructive posts I'm not writing

Next you'll say that old /twg/ had interesting discussion every day and no shitposting
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>>147738753
SLAANESH'S PERVERSE GLORY
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>>147739321
Good for you
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