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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog general. Let's talk about Sonic games, old and new, and the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, etc.

/sthg/ - #491 - Too Many Hogs Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments
SEGA Confirms New Sonic Project Coming 2017
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/sega-confirms-new-sonic-project-is-coming-in-2017/

Sonic Humble Bundles
https://www.humblebundle.com/sonic-25th-anniversary-bundle
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/sonic-comics-bundle

Tons of Unseen Sonic Concept Art Revealed
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/lots-of-unseen-concept-art-of-sonic-and-company/

Sonic: Mega Drive First Look, Sequel Revealed
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/first-look-at-sonic-mega-drive-1-reveals-sequel/

Sonic Boom Fire & Ice E3 Trailer
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/sonic-boom-fire-ice-e3-trailer/

Runners is Dead.
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/05/sonic-runners-shutting-down-next-month/

Sonic is joining the cast of LEGO Dimensions!
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/09/sonic-hedgehog-joins-lego-dimensions/

>Recent Releases<
Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games is out for 3DS; WiiU on June 24. Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is out for the 3DS on September 27.

Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom

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Shit edition desu.
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>>147212951
Who's your favorite hog?
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>>147213123
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>>147213093
I was strongly tempted to do Village Hogs Edition.
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>>147213119
That'd be appreciated anon. What should the rules be?
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>>147212951
>9 threads to 500
>tfw we'll get no new art because of faggots
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>>147213361
I'm too tired to be creative now, but if all y'all spitball some ideas I can take the ones I like and be creative tomorrow.
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I do wish Ida handled that 2 page spread a little better. I've learned a lot since then so hopefully itll show in the next few issues. I'm not sure the angle I couldve put that at to fit everyone together becuase the the need of eggman to be driving around with metal sonic chasing him. I dunno can someone do some layouts they think woulda worked? Id love to hear some criticism about it.
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>>147213123
Sonic, Amy, and coldsteel
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>>147213123
Rosy and her bitch.
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>>147213492
I'm not an artist, but I think the biggest problem is the angle. Like you said, Eggman driving with Metal Sonic makes it a bit complicated. I'd suggest just bringing everyone closer together, but that might make it too cluttered.

Maybe having Eggman driving straight towards the reader, split between the two pages, with the other fighters spread out on either side of him. Could go for a lower angle then and not have to draw people back so far, especially since as characters get less detailed they look less interesting and are more liable to get messed up by the inks.
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>>147213492
Nowhere near qualified to give the feedback you want, but man I'm glad to see you around again.
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>>147213123
Impossible to choose just one. I want them all.
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>>147214060
Also, looking at it again, it just seems haphazard. Like pairs of fighters were all drawn separately and then just slapped on. Lacks a certain level of balance or sense of intention. Again, not an artist so my critique is rather non-exact, but hopefully you can glean something from it.
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>>147213775
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>>147213492
>>147214060 more or less has the gist of it. Spreads usually come down to fitting everything into the space without it feeling cluttered or empty and as you get more experienced doing them you're bound to learn or figure out neat tricks to keep from showing what doesn't need to be shown without cluttering the page. I would go look up some good 2 pg spreads as examples but I'm hopelessly tired and in the process of going to bed. I think the best general advice is to just go all out with the creativity when it comes to spreads or single panel pages. Just make it as visually interesting as possible without it becoming a clusterfuck or causing you to fall behind.
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>>147214492
Still waiting on our resident writefag to write up Rosy pegging Scourge It'll happen one day.
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>>147214060
part of the challenge of the page is I wasnt the one to make calls on the action per say, who was fighting who and such so having axel being attache dto wendy's cart and having some people flying etc, i couldnt cram it closer together without covering up others. In retrospect I could have simply drawn some bigger and I think that would have fixed the whole thing. I really wanted to make sure all of the notes were met in full without leaving anything out. I'm too eager to please most likely.
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>>147214637
Yeah, I think just making some characters bigger would've given the sense of the fighting being closer together, which would've made it more dynamic. Also having elements off different fights interact if at all possible. For example, in this spread the booster trail from Metal Sonic could be used to tie things together more; Tundra's ice blast going under it draws me attention, but otherwise most of the action seems crammed in the right corner or way in the back.
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>>147214492
Haven't seen this posted in a while.

>>147214596
I'll be sure to put it on the wall.
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>>147214637
Hey abt. How was doing the issue timewise? Did you feel you had enough time to work on each page?

Also how much did the writers/editorial give you on the splash page direction wise? Like what restrictions and stuff did you have? Do they tell you specifically all the interactions that are happening and where on the page they should be etc/
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>>147213492
>>147214637
I think the main issue is how extreme the angle was. As a fan who has zero artistic talent or formal artistic education, when there's an action-packed 2-page spread I care more about things being clear and looking good rather than worrying about how it makes sense perspective-wise.
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>>147215412
On the other hand, some times a weirdly extreme angle can be helpful in showing off the action, as in this based Bates spread from Worlds Collide. If it were just drawn looking at ground level then a lot of these exchanges would be less visually interesting/detailed. It also has the advantage of Sonic running throughout the fight to connect it, which wouldn't necessarily be true of the spread in question.

http://i.imgur.com/DG08RpS.jpg
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>>147213123
Sonic, Amy, and Scourge
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>>147214637
Yeah, with that much supervision it would be difficult to make a good 2-page spread. Most of the time you'd want to create a good sense of balance in the art, and make sure that certain elements in the art are emphasized. With that many things being required to put on the page, it's hard to create a good balance.
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>>147215206
everything the caharcters were doing and their positions were laid out in the script I just had to figure out how to piece it together. Yea, I had enough time, I just hadnt drawn these characters enough to understand them fully and how to utilize their forms in page layout. so thats my fault really.
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>>147216359
That spread was actually the first thing I thought of. I disagree that's an extreme angle: it's top-down, the right side is slightly more prominent, but the perspective isn't as extreme as in abt's. With abt's the background is really far back, therefore logically the background characters will be a lot smaller. With Bates' all the characters are more similar sizes, which helps everything looks more clear.
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>>147216651
I shoulda done something similar to that megaman crossover spread actually. That mighta been better.
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>>147216527
Honestly dude I wouldn't worry about it. The only reason you're getting negative feedback on the page is because usually your stuff is really good so people have high expectations of you.

I know you'll keep at it and that your next splash will be better so lemme skip the trite comments and just say we're looking forward to seeing more from you!
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>>147213123
Robo hog
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>>147216651
It's really isometric more than anything else. Top down, but at an angle.
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>>147216838
thanks. I'll keep getting better with every issue im sure. I wanna keep learning and avoid stagnation so I have to strive hard to make that happen.
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>>147216992
do you have any plans post sonic? like is sonic a stepping stone to a book or company you really want to work with? Or is sonic your jam and you'd stay on the book till they threw you off?
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>>147216992
Relax - your work's good. As long as you strive towards bettering yourself, you're not far wrong.

Meanwhile I'm struggling on muscles and the pile of scrunched-up failures is mounting. Any tips for a learning artist on how to persevere through the times when you'd rather just kick it in and grab a beer?
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>>147213123
>Shadow
>Scourge
>Blue Knuckles
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>>147217171
Draw buffles
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>>147216819
This is basically what I'm thinking of. Again I have zero artistic talent or education and this is probably obvious.

Left is a rough idea of what the perspective in your spread was like. Background was really small, which was probably intentional to fit the tower in the back. But it'd probably look better if it was closer to the right so the characters in the background were more prominent and not tiny.
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>>147217119
I'm gonna keep this gig as long as I can but I definately want to work on other comics as well. I'm looking to branch out soon and keep archie at the same time. I wanna make it big eventually so I gotta work hard. As long as my work is consistent and fast I should be good.
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>>147217292
I might have a pop at this. Currently I'm working on a friend's OC laying in a hot bath, but the OC is meant to be a bit of a muscular character. I've never drawn muscles, and the combination of my own perfectionism and tiredness isn't helping.
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>>147217364
If Kate Leth can somehow make it big, I'm sure someone who actually puts effort into their work like you can do well. I'm rooting for ya abt
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>>147217171
you have to want to be drawing instead of doing other things. gotta put in the hours but other than practice, if you feel uncomfortable then get out of your house and dont draw for a few hours, then come back to it. go ride a bike or sit in a coffee house and eat food. then go back after getting your blood pumped and sit back down and force it. and if you simply cant work then just dont and waste time until you feel like working again. usually taking an entire day off will motivate one enough to get back on the horse again, least it does for me. I work in bursts. I can go an entire week without getting anything done but then finish 10 pages in 2 days. I just do whats comfortable. also find the times your work most productivly. I work the best past midnight.
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>>147217364
that work ethic's got you where you are today dude, you'll only get faster and more efficient so remember us when you're in the big leagues!


>I work the best past midnight.

A fellow nighthawk! How do you deal with the quiet? Any recommended podcasts or listening material? Or d'ya find you work better to silence or quiet? I usually do my best work during the hours so I can't really blast music and everyone's asleep so online chatting is dead.
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>>147217207
What a team that would be.
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>>147217621
>I work the best past midnight.
>00:02
Get to work, abt. Though I don't actually know where you live, but I'm guessing it's not central time zone.
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>>147217454
I can't draw because of hands, but I've never been too hot on muscles myself.

That said, I was quite honest about the Buffles thing. It helps because you can draw him like Boom Knux and once you get sick/give up or you get tired. Draw him like one of these.
>>147217356
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>>147217621
>I work the best past midnight
Same here. Less distractions since everything's closed and people are asleep
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>>147217778
I prefer Red Sonic.
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>>147217775
i listen to shows over and over/ video games being played/ podcasts/ video game analysis
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>>147217778
Sonic and Shadow butt heads constantly.

Scourge keeps trying to fuck everyone over because he can.

Silver is a combination of overly paranoid and overly naive in the most comically hopeless way possible.

Shard is the only one doing his job most of the time and can't believe he has to put up with this shit.
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>>147218050
So Scourge is Charlie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos
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>>147217364
>>147217621
I don't mean to put you down, but is that much effort really worth it? I don't really know much about comics but it doesn't sound like there are many possibilities to be very "big" in comics nowadays and that market is getting smaller every day. I'd be worried.
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>>147218050
Sounds pretty fun.
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>>147217621
Archie's Murata, right here.
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Hey ABT, I just wanna say reading your posts tonight have really brought my spirits up. I honestly don't think I'm good enough to do comic work, but I've sent in submissions three times over the last decade, with various degrees of helpful criticism from the editors of the day, and it's just uplifting to hear from someone who made it to just keep trying. I sure do look up to your hard work man.
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>>147218224
nothing is better than working from home, being my own boss, on my own schedule, not having to answer to anyone, and most of all not being in a fucking cubicle. i wouldnt trade this work for any other job.
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>>147218050
It's the Sonic sitcom we need.
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>>147218702
im glad to hear it. keep working at it (if you want to).
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>>147218702
>getting feedback from editors

Man I've never even gotten personalised feedback from editors, but that's not gonna stop me! I'm too stupid to quit trying.
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>>147219405
Feedback would have been a better word to use rather than criticism, now that I reread my post, heh.
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>>147217356
looks like my 10 year old self's halloween costume. I wanted to be Knuckles the Echidna, but all i had was a red sweat suit and some make up that would make a clown blush in shame.
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Goodnight, /sthg/
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>>147220237
This. Goodnight.
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I>>147220340
I'm up for a bit longer but then I'm heading off too
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If the developers were to incorporate more playable characters in the next Sonic game, would you prefer they all play similiarly like Heroes and the Advance games or have each character given radically different styles of gameplay like the Adventure titles?
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>>147220991
Preferably how S3&K did it.
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Beach Volleyball is being patched out of the new M&S game.
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>>147221531
Maybe they'll redo it so that the Sonic girls can have swimsuits.
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>>147221764
No they're patching it out because a dead Shyguy washed up where they play.
They are also talking about removing the swimming events since Sonic shit in the pool.
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>>147220991
I'd choose them having different styles, but I don't think the Adventures did them well.
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>>147221764
>painted nails

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>147221868

God damn it.

God damn your fucking post.
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>>147213123

Silver in the background still gets me.
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>>147226013
stop
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Ya don't stop. Ya proceed.
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>>147218050
>Shard is the only one doing his job most of the time and can't believe he has to put up with this shit.
What would be Shard's version of "I'm getting too old for this shit?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6dXmsR4_VQ
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Which Sonic game had the most potential that they failed to reach. Hard mode no Sonic 06
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>>147227498
>"You guys make me want to go back into the volcano"
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>>147228492
Heroes. The team concept deserves a better try.
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>>147228492
>>147228957
this, although since its already been said..

Sonic Boom.
The fanbase wanted a more adventure style game for a while - multiple characters, hub world, exploration, story.

so they decided to make a side-series which will have all these elements, as well as being a throwback to an earlier era of 3D platformers.
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>>147228957
>>147229473
What are some things that could improve Heroes, I've never played it
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>>147229892
some people do like it, so you might.

>enemies have hp
>you also have to fight certain enemy waves to progress
>The team mechanic gets old after the 3rd zone
>movement is really slippery
>you have to play 4 stories
>levels are too long

those last two might not be problem if I liked the gameplay
It's like they were worried it was too short and so added as much filler as they could.
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>>147227498
My circuits are too fried for this shit
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>>147229892
I find the movement to be a little too slippery, camera can be a bitch at times, you have to replay the game 4 times to get the final story, the levels can drag on too long, the models are ugly, and the voice acting is pretty fucking poor.
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>>147230165
These are great!
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>>147230110
>>147230279
Them dragging the game out to long outta of short play time is a common problem for Sonic Team
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>>147230616
Generations had a good solution for this, a lot people disliked the missions but I thought they were gimmicky fun.

games like Heroes and sonic 06 used the good classic system of having different characters play through the same levels but having their different style provide a different experience. We know they messed it up.
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>>147213123
Sonic > Shadow > Silver > Amy > rest are irrelevant
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>>147232073
>Silver
>Relevant
He wishes
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>>147232184
at least he has made an appearance on media in the last 2 years :^)
enjoy your dead recolors
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>>147227498
>I'm getting too rusty for this shit
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>>147232243
>Enjoy your dead recolors
>Implying I like'd them
>Implying I don't want silver to join them
Enjoy your pot head
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>>147233387
why is tails the best?
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>>147233457
Because he shitposts harder.
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You know sometimes I can't help but think that Ori and The Blind Forest would be a great inspiration to take from if Sonic wanted to go true 2D again.

Seriously you can go blindingly fast through that game if you know what you're doing and I can't help but feel like that's what Sonic was about in the first place.
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>>147232937
>>Implying I like'd them
I like you
I never said I liked Silver either
just that he's better than the rest I mentioned
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>>147235024
watching a speed run, I do like how fluid the animations look and how zoomed out the perspective is. one of the issue of the classic series was not being able to see in front of you in 2d.

and the artwork is beautiful, that exact style wouldn't work for sonic but its shows they should embrace sprite work, theres more to it than muh sprite nostalgia.
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>>147235329
Specifically I think Ori's moveset would work well with Sonic in 2D altogether desu. Especially the bash attack which is essentially a mastered version of Sonic's homing attack.

The art style of Ori wouldn't work with Sonic of course but that's because Ori has actual inspiration and talent to it while Sonic was basically just a MickyxMario crossbreed.
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>>147235491
>Implying that despite that he doesn't pull off his look
This guy
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>Cucked by Vegita
>Cucked by Mewtwo

I-i'm still the Ultimate!
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>>147236503
>Vegita
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>>147236640
He's been watching them in Japanese
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>>147236741
>Subbed
I bet he doesn't even enjoy Sonic X dubbed
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Happy Saturday /sthg/
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>>147236503
since its been bought up.
do you guys really think Shadow cares about the 'ultimate lifeform' thing, like its a title or something. He brings it up in SA2 but that's hen he's being threatening and when he's also naive. There's also a line in the final hazard boss fight where he calls sonic as the ultimate lifeform as a complement. Even his more aggressive behaviour in SA2 can be put down to his motivation in that story.

What I'm asking is that they seemed to have turned him into a Vegeta/Sasuke figure but is he really?
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>>147236850
>I bet he doesn't even enjoy Sonic X dubbed
>Enjoying Sonic X
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>>147235491
Anything would work better than Sonic's uninspired art style and gameplay
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>>147237702
go away Jon Tron and/or Arin
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>>147237851
>Implying I have to be a shitty e celeb to know the truth
Sonic's gameplay was always uninspired at best and the character designs either tried too hard to be "cool" or were Mickey ripoffs
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>>147237702
>Uninspired artstyle and gameplay
Did you just finish playing Lost World
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>>147238131
>That Webm
Only proving my point
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>>147238176
>Only proving my point
I meant to post this webm anyway
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>>147238057
I can't believe this conversation keeps happening on sthg general

Sonic's a platformer where he goes fast and rolls around, it's simple but it does give him his own unique feel.

The designs take inspiration form the silver screen cartoon icons. Having influences doesn't make something uninspired.
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>>147238370
Shame the unique gameplay is ruined by having to platform which slows you down
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>>147238821
you can skip them by pressing boost :^)
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>>147238821
I'm bored of this get your kicks somewhere else.
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>>147238257
GAMING IS DEAD.
HOPE IS DEAD.
THE ONLY HAPPINESS I GET IS FROM DRAWFAG'S ADORABLE DRAWINGS.
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>>147238868
I wish you could just boost to win, because that'd be fast. Platforming is slow and is what's holding Sonic back
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>>147239047
do you like the SA2 sonic shadow levels or the the Day Unleashed levels then?
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>>147239220
Too much platforming in both but daytime Unleashed is the closest you can really get to being good
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We need a Doom-esque Shadow the Hedgehog game where he goes to the Black Arm's planet to kill all of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw
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>>147213123
Rozy.
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>>147239435
its never gonna happen desu, the majority of the fanbase consider platforming a key element, although I guessing you mean slow platforming and not acrobatic jumping from spring to crossbar to light dash - that sort of thing.

maybe one day they'll finally make that console Sonic R/Rivals spin-off.
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It's a platformer though at that point just play a Allstar racing. Those don't have jump buttons meant for jumping. Honestly sonic needs more skating type gameplay with inertia and momentum to make jumps instead of automatic boost ramps
The platforming only gets bad whens its slow and blocky moving platforms on cycles
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>>147239628
no we fucking don't.

although if they did they could give shadow the ability to actually strafe and have plenty of wide open spaces to accommodate this
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>>147239832
Platforming is bad for something meant to go fast by default. Sonic should be a racing series, though I haven't played SASASRT so I can't say how good that is. But it should be based around going fast and dodging obstacles rather than platforming
>>147239765
I guess the majority of the fanbase wants Sonic to just be bad forever then if they consider tedious slow platforming necessary
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>>147240009
>Actually supporting Unleashed's linear playstyle.
I'd prefer the "tedious slow platforming" over the "Move the control stick in one direction, boost, and let the game do the rest."
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>>147240009
You can go fast and jump over stuff anon, seriously just go play Transformed I heard that's a good racing game. I don't want them slowly more into a car, he's got the turning radius of a truck now
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>>147240213
If that's true then Transformed is the only good Sonic game. Least it's better than nothing
>>147240170
It seems like you don't get the point of what Sonic's supposed to be:fast. Platforming isn't fast
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>>147240389
>It seems like you don't get the point of what Sonic's supposed to be
But Sonic had platforming in his very FIRST game. It's always been apart of the franchise.
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>>147240389
>It seems like you don't get the point of what Sonic's supposed to be:fast. Platforming isn't fast
>he still believes 90's Sega's lies.
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>>147240484
And that's why this franchise is such a waste of potential and nowhere near good, especially not as good as it can be. It's in the wrong fucking genre
>>147240496
Those lies are better than what we got
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>>147240389
It can be fast though, that's like saying MegaMan should stop being a platformer and just be a shooter
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>>147240579
>It's in the wrong fucking genre
>Saying this when that genre was the reason Sonic was so popular.
I can just tell your first Sonic game was Unleashed. There is no hiding it.
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>>147240604
No, because Mega Man games have good platforming and aren't supposed to be fast. Shooting doesn't actively go against platforming like speed does
>>147240670
Keeping it as a platformer was a mistake. Sonic should be fast. Racing games are fast. Make it a racing game or it can't be good
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>>147240801
>Make it a racing game or it can't be good
Sonic is not a Car, anon.
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>>147240847
You're right. But both are meant to go fast
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So when Archie goes down under, what company would you want to pick up the Sonic licence if Sega allows it?
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>>147240801
MegaManX is pretty fast

Sonic supposed to be able run,roll and jump of ramps its supposed be more like a skateboarding type thing you can't do that if there is no jump and everything is automated
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>>147240992
Sacrifices like unnecessary platforming have to be made if Sonic is to go fast and be good
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>>147240989
None, we'd be in a lose/lose situation. Just leave it in peace.
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>>147240579
>Those lies are better than what we got
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>>147241051
How would it be a lose/lose situation?
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>>147241039
>Sacrifices like unnecessary platforming have to be made if Sonic is to go fast and be good
Then what else would there be? Only running tunnels and sometimes fighting enemies and that'd be boring as fuck.
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>>147241039
Dude, Sonic needs to do more than just run. Speed was always a defining factor in Sonic but it wasn't the sole one.
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>>147241148
>>147241161
Basically make it like that Temple Run Sonic game, Sonic Dash was it? That's ideal. It allows for speed but also dodging obstacles and no platforming
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>>147241039
We should sacrifice the boost and drift
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>>147241051
Marvel and DC speak for themselves. If you thought the crossover garbage was bad with Archie, if IDW got a hold of Sonic, they'd make sure to cross him over with every IP they had the rights to.
Not familiar with many other publishers honestly.
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>>147241247
>Make it a pay to win mobile app game
Wew lad
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>>147241247
>Wanting Sonic Dash to be the crux of the entire franchise.
Nigga, are you off your Meds or something?
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>>147241381
No. Just have Sonic Dash without pay2win shit
>>147241383
It's what Sonic should be. Speed, dodging shit, and nothing else
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Deepsilver will buy Sega in our lifetime.

>>147241383
Your post is too meta for us.
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There should be a Soneek game where you be building ze cityscapes.

Call it Soneek ze Hedgehog: City(es)capes
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>>147241443
I really hope people like you are a silent minority.
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>>147241443
I want dodge by jumping onto objects and over hazards
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>>147241497
Meta?
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>>147241635
You can jump over things in Sonic Dash. Problem solved
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Why are you guys responding to an obvious troll are we that desperate to get bumps?
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>>147241674
>"Well, you can jump over things!"
That is still not enough to warrant Dash to be linchpin of the gameplay.
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>>147241776
Says you. If you don't want to make it a racing game that's how to make it good
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>>147241639
>replies to a post about Sonic Dash the game
>comment about Sonic Dash the game
>posts image by Sonic Dash the drawfag
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>>147241814
But what you're suggesting is still limited in gameplay. You might as well have Sonic go full Mobile (And don't say that's a good idea either).
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>>147241814
But Sonic Dash isn't a racing game your not racing anything
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>>147241957
That's what I mean. If you don't want to make Sonic a racing game, then at least make it like Dash
>>147241943
It's not like making it more complicated would make it better.
Simple=effective
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>>147241853
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>>147242051
But you're still pretty much suggesting the same thing between a racing game and Dash. Limited and downright empty gameplay. Simple does not always equal effective. It can be considered watering down.
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>>147242201
Sometimes you gotta trim the fat to make something good, and in this case the fat is platforming
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Platforming in Sonic should feel like super-highspeed epic parkour.
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>falling for it
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You're all wrong!

THIS is how Sonic should be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6ak3ebBep0
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>>147242504
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>>147242504
>Make him more animal-like
>Said redesign makes him less animal like and incredibly generic
Every time
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>>147242504
B A C K P A C K
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>>147242504
Sonic was always the underdog compared to Mario, Sega was bullsy to even try and compete.
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>>147242504
>He posted the Nu-Gaming, Indie garbage Sonic video again.
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>>147242504
Delete this
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>>147242504
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>>147242504
>>147242627
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>>147242504
>Let's fix Sonic
>By removing every single thing people like about Sonic
Absolute fucking cancer. Anyone got that long ass series of comments by one user telling him how wrong he was
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>>147242504
ayy
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what if we made sonic a cute girl
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>>147243005
There was this one game that did that Planet Freedom or something idk
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>>147243005
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>>147243005
A cute girl you say?
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>>147243005
And then made her sing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC-zPJAFfXY
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>>147214637
Sounds more like the writer not thinking about exactly what he's asking for than anything. Wanting 15+ characters AND mooks in a spread where the focal point is rushing AWAY from the action makes for a hard spread, as even in your finished version I'm wondering how CS actually made it all the way over there so fast.

Not to say you couldn't do better, just that it's a terrible idea for a spread. I might take a crack at doing a rough layout later, see if there's a better way to frame it.
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Sonic as a fantasy JRPG?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irS0SuQmAGM

Best pairing or best Pairing?
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>>147244227
hi kkm
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How do I have fun with Sonic CD? Dead ends everywhere, like one enemy every 50 yards, 15 second cutscene whenever I shift time and shifting time doesn't even seem to do much except rearrange a few blocks.

What am I missing? People have called this the best Sonic game and I've hated it for far too fucking long.
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>>147245005
You don't have fun, Sonic CD is the worst of the original quadrilogy.
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>>147243005
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>>147245103
We starting this again?
Can I join?
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>>147245005
Don't treat it like a normal Sonic game, it has more exploration than the rest. Get a past bar, find a good pace to time travel, blow up the transformer and holoprojector in the past, time travel to the future, finish stage. Repeat for the entire game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgQvxMKYwu0
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I need more pictures of Maria for my folder, post em
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>>147245549
>There are literally only benefits to Sonic being female.

>Platonic friendship for class points - Check
>Don't have to fight over the same slut - Check
>Sonic gets to do things again instead of shitters like Sally and Bunnie - Check
>Sonic is cute - Check
>The Sonic/Tails duo now has someone who can beat the shit out of Rogue and the qt Egg boss waifus without it being misogyny - Check

>Prove me wrong. You can't.
autists
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>>147245549
wut.
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>>147245487
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>>147245487
I wish Muhriah actually looked good and not some mongoloid with forehead the size of texas
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so I just got 130 emblems in Sonic Adventure

it was the chao garden holding me back, I just simply had to let my Chao rest before putting him in the race. I also had to get lucky with that Black Chao thats OP.

There's still mission mode but fuck that, I don't even know what they were thinking putting that in. Metalsonic is cool desu but he's a sonic reskin so I did it mainly for completionism.
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>>147245487
>>147246053
>>147246170
Dude she's like 12 years old.
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>>147246367
Is she? We never got a definite age for her. She could be 16.
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>>147246367
So is Amy, I just want my pictures man
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>>147246367
And human.

>>147246529
Some of us had to be player 2 you know.
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>>147246506
It was somewhere stated in official sources, just like Not-aIDS.
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>>147245549
There are literally only benefits to Tails being a carnivore.

Drinking blood from a wine glass for class points - Check
Don't have to fight with his friends for food because they eat veggies - Check
Tails get to do things again like being a cannibalistic crazed villain - Check
Tails is cute - Check
The whole Sonic vs. Tails arc can now actually have a decent story and plot behind it - Check

Prove me wrong. You can't.
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>>147246742
But he won't have any friends.
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>>147244971
>Anyone who says Ian-sama could have made a mistake is a namefag shitposter.

Fuck off. People like you are on the level of Penders' fans back in 04-08. It's fine if you don't agree and think the blame should fall squarely on Adam, but don't do the staff the disservice of deflecting negative opinions and labelling posters as boogiemen.

Besides, I couldn't possibly be KKM. I think Diana and Evan are better pencillers than Adam.
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>>147246529
That's not a Tailsfag, that is what we like to call an advanced form of autism and possibly repressed sexuality.
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>>147246835
>>147244971
>kkm
Who?
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>>147246506
Yes, she is 12.
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>>147247019
Some namefag that doesn't like how the comic is being written.
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Suddenly

T H E B I O L I Z A R D
The Prototype of the Ultimate Life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx90TMgFv94
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>>147247538
BROTHERRRRRRRRRRRR!
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Doom Guy vs. Super Sonic.
Who wins?
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>>147247538
To the pressure everything is just like an illusion.

I'll be losing you before long.
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>>147246367
yes and?

>>147246529
see >>147246839
I am betting on the latter

>>147245549
>>147245920
>>147246742
how many memes can we creates from this

>>147246808
Does he have them now either :^)

>>147246945
well hedgehogs eat shit
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>>147248154
Sonic is small and a cartoon character, therefore he does not have huge guts for Doom Guy to rip and tear. Sonic wins.
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>>147247226
Name sounds like some Sonic artist.
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>>147248568
>"""artist"""
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>>147247538
[Muffled SUPPORTING MEEEEE in the distance]
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>>147248154
Sonic can dodge bullets, so Sonic
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>>147248616
Are you saying "Sonic artist" isn't much of an insult?
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>>147248795
I'm saying his work is an insult to the insult.
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>>147248890
Why?
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>>147248890
So he really is a person that draws? Can i see examples, please?
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>>147249014
>That damage
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>>147248490
Aw, I wish Amy still looked like this.
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>>147245458
Lah is cu--
>patreon
FFFFFFF
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>>147249032
I don't see it. I'm a big fan of duck comics so it's nice to see someone with a beak kicking ass like 19th century scrooge mcduck.
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>>147242504
I have never seen this video and I don't plan on doing it. I'm curious but disgusted.
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>Want to see more posts tagged #thunderbolt the chinchilla? Sign up for Tumblr

Pfft, yeah right. I've gone 4 years without ever visiting that place, I'm not starting now.

Hmm.

Suddenly my life feels really really empty, is that normal?
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>>147250131
Right, you probably have a url that looks like tumblr.com/tagged/thunderbolt-the-chizoro
Replace tagged with search.
Enjoy your day.
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>>147250246
No, I had the search thing. But they want me to sign up for a place I've been told to hate.

FUCKING SHIT THEY HAVE NAUGHTYFINS TOO

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, I HAVE TO DO THIS
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>>147249951
Patreon is your friend, Anon. Please support those atten-...starving true artists of the fanbase with your money. You don't really need money yourself, do you? Of course you don't! C'mon, give some of that useless money to real personalities like - for example - MtD! It will help the Sonic community too. You're not anti-community are you, Anon?
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When will Cream get her own arc?
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>>147250405
That's odd, I can get by for years without joining up.
Join up if you want, follow only the sonic artists and stay away from all drama and we won't judge you.
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>>147249032
She's kinda _cute_
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>>147250703
She's old.
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>>147250082
How about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AK3n-srj5E&list=PLr-C4V5-8-PdIXz5rePFmw5CB3R7RPe34&index=1
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>>147250721
43 is not old
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>>147251223
How's that mid life crisis going, friend?
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Welp, it's relatively saturday morning for me, so I'm watching some sonic satam for an hour or so if anyone cares to join me.

tails.rocks/test/
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>>147251057
Should've just linked to the 3rd part because that's where he actually proposes a new game.

I'd play it.
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