MEC Returns Edition
Previous Mission: >>146855956
News:
1)Shen's Last Gift DLC Rleased!!!
2)
XCOM 2 officially coming to Xbox One and PlayStation 4 on September 6th.
>https://twitter.com/XCOM/status/740181548419272705
3)
Julian Gollop is working on his new game Phoenix Point. It's a turn-based tactical game with strategy elements, destructible terrain, geoscape and character progression much akin to XCOM. Lobstermen are confirmed.
>https://twitter.com/Phoenix_Point
>http://www.phoenixpoint.info/
>http://www.pcgamer.com/julian-gollop-announces-new-game-phoenix-point/
4)
Long War Studios are working on more mods for XCOM2. The first in a planned series of five is live on Workshop + Nexus now, and is called Long War Toolbox.
>https://xcom.com/news/en-long-war-studios-creating-more-xcom-2-mods
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=674832831
Also cosmetic mod author Capnbubs - maker of the most endorsed mod on the workshop - has been signed onto the LWS team to model stuff.
The /xcg/ Mandatory Read:
>http://pastebin.com/k9pT8zx4
Piratez mod for OpenXCom: http://openxcom.org/forum/index.php/topic,3626.0.html
<<Helpful XCOM 2 Links!>>
Assorted improvements (Skip intros, alleviate stuttering, multi monitor support, and resolutions past 1080p)
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=616682629
XCOM2 NEW AND IMPROVED MODLIST, updated regularly:
>http://pastebin.com/pTMatP5Z
NEW MEGA MOD LIBRARY - Contains all 180 mods from the new modlist:
>https://mega.nz/#F!HlgWjCqR!STJ0c0kW8Fs6jKynqKyerw
/xcg/'s Long War Library (New LW players read this shit or you will be ignored):
>http://pastebin.com/YmaXBKpN
Image Library of /xcg/:
>http://imgur.com/a/S1qfx
Music to Arm yourself up:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWHA0h4SC9A
arms are useful
To those having the game freeze during customization post all your cosmetic mods to me so I can narrow down what's causing this.
>>147096340
*except on robots
>>147096368
My cosmetic mods are working fine (the pool stutters when I select them, but otherwise no problem). I'm more worried that some freshly broken gameplay mod is going to render the game unplayable some hours into a campaign.
>>147096542
Everything deserves arms, especially robots
>>147096551
what game play mods are you running?
>Leave XCOM 2 on the brink of alien rulers release
>it's actually playable FPS-wise for me
>try back after """Shen's last gift"""
>Runs like a steaming pile of shit
Don't get me wrong, my current hardware needs an upgrade, but the fact that i could run the game with textures on high and some others while having 40-ish FPS was good enough, BEFORE those DLC's
Now the main menu is around sub 20, didn't even bother playing
>>147096340
Nice meme
>>147096192
What's Astepa?
>tfw you have lots of mecha models but dont know shit about rigging or xcom2 modding
>>147096618
>putting arms on robots instead of on the torsos of needy amputees
you sicken me
>>147096760
>Don't get me wrong, my current hardware needs an upgrade, but the fact that i could run the game with textures on high and some others while having 40-ish FPS was good enough, BEFORE those DLC's
>Now the main menu is around sub 20, didn't even bother playing
I feel like there is something funky going on here, other people are reporting better performance.
>>147096836
Beep boop motha fucka
>>147096836
You think i will stop there next im putting arms on planes and DOGS
>>147096192
https://youtu.be/oHG_abjJLPM
Shen's Last Gift trailer. Should be in the OP.
>>147097038
Should it?
>>147096750
Squad Notoriety, Squad Cohesion, Mission Penalty Rebalance, Second Wave options, Remove Aim Assist, Additional PCS, Improved AI, Marathon Mode, Stop Wasting My Time
My worries may be completely unfounded, I'm just scarred from post-patch days in other mod-heavy games.
>>147096836
Is this the Human Revolution?
>>147096902
Maybe it'll run better after a good night rest, after my computer cooled off and all those shit processes terminate, but for now i'm fucked and need to find a job
Friendly reminder that you share a thread with 12-year olds that can't handle it when their games stop working because of updates.
>>147087929
>>147097130
stop wasting my time is working and by improved ai do you mean ABA or something else
does it work mid campaign or do i need to start a new one
>>147097267
I don't want to be reminded of that
>>147097320
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618390218
>>147097267
Friendly reminder that cosmetics and modding was a selling point for the game
Also theMAGNIFICENT DESIGNcan be a bit too much sometimes, and loosing things you put time in can be the last straw for some
I understand him, and you're just being a dickheadt. a bit pissed the time i put into character pool is fucked now
>>147097038
I want the music from that trailer in game.
>>147097389
It should but I'd ask the modder and see if you can get a reply, but I dont see anything wrong in your list maybe start a new campaign and test it just a few missions maybe
>>147096192
>adds Mec's
>it's Johnny 5 with legs
neat.
>>147097658
Yeah, I'll do that. Thanks, anon.
Anyone seen this graphical flicker bug before?
spark model mods w h e n
>>147097840
Occasionally, yes. Quick save - quick load usally works for me.
>>147097840
You get to the cloud district very often?
Should just blast this dude for the memes
>>147096119
the first one without name are the planetside2 helmets
also i have destroyer's female hair mod but it doesn't show on the list
So, wait. Some people had their character pools entirely fucked, some merely had their modded cosmetics reset to vanilla stuff, and some escaped the issue altogether? What kind of whimsical shit is this?
>>147097840
A E S T H E T I C
>>147098140
Beats me F am
>>147098140
By the time its all sorted out it won't be whimsical at all.
>>147096414
This is my list
That MEC looks awful.
XCOM 2 was a complete disappointment.
>>147098060
>95 turn timer
>>147098445
guerrila war
>>147097321
Jake said you can get the sparks, but you aren't going to be able to do the story mission.
>>147098338
That MEC Looks ok
You're a disappointment.
Also there are more head options if you care.
>>147096414
didnt saw this post but here is mine: >>147098068
>>147098338
I disagree
>>147097497
Seriously though, this happens to EVERY game that is modded in one way or another, it doesn't matter how many times some developer says that they're gonna support modding. Updates are gonna break them either way, I just think you're perceiving the way they're supporting modding wrong.
>>147098501
But is the story really worth it?
>>147098140
Some of us started the game, then closed it, then reopened it again and found everything completely fine.
You should've done that, Anon. Though my character pool stuff occasionally freezes so I'm leaving it alone for now.
So how long do you reckon it'll be before we see Rule34 art of Shen getting fucked by a SPARK?
>>147098759there is some good banter with shen, bradford and the other guy
i probably play it once and turn it off later just like the nest mission
>>147098338
I like the look of the mech. Reminds me of the bots you saw in Elysium.
>>147096192
>Download DLC
>re-enable all mods
>Launch
>No mods working
>Play a little anyways
>Quit
>Subscribe to another mod
>Enable it
>Play
>Suddenly mods working again, including cosmetics
The only issue I have is that suddenly my ODST helmets have fucked up visor textures.
>>147098880
That's exactly what I did, I'm not having any problems personally. I'm just baffled by the sheer variation in problems reported.
>>147098921
I don't know but your comment probably just cut it down by 10%
Also is captcha being retarded for anyone else.
>>147097038
I knew I missed something.
>>147098921
Draw me something I dont care if you cant draw make it and post it here
>>147099135
Absolutely it turns my screen white and each time I click the opacity starts to return to normal
Can someone explain to me why so many people have been shitting on xcom 2 in here?
Is it just because they prefer the older ones and are assblasted that people are talking about the game they don't like in the general?
Also, I'm about to start TFTD on open xcom and after that try to play apoc. Anyone have some fanpatches or anything for apoc that makes it more approachable? Openxcom has spoiled me.
Are we the good guys still?
>>147099294
Oh good its not just me. Stupid captcha
>>147099358
Because its new. People were blasting XCOM1 when it was new. Also it trys to do somethings different, that's a big no no.
I have no knowledge of fan patches concerning Apocalypse unfortunately
>>147099139
That reminds me how much I hate the art style in XCOM EU. Everything looked like it was made of plastic like a kids toy or something. The proportions of everything felt way off.
>>147099036
>the answer to mod problems is more mods
Brilliant
>>147099358
Some people just like to shit on things, and they tend to be vocal about it.
>>147099596
My main gripe was the gorilla-proportioned male soldiers, and the oversized weapons. The second problem persists in X2, but doesn't bother me as much for some reason.
>>147099697
Mod it until it breaks
Then mod it more until it works again
>>147099057
at least it beats the surge of S H E N W H E N
god i hated that so much
>>147096340
B-But what about muh Pistols!
Aren't they Useful?
>>147099480
>killing snek
No, Anon. You are the bad guys.
>>147100050
They are.
Why wouldn't they be?
>>147099871
Really? I think the weapons in XCOM 2 fit really well with the soldiers. The tier 2 mag weapons can be pretty bulky looking, but I think that's by design. They are supposed to be clunky, barely functioning, scrapped together weapons with exposed wiring and no finish. Then for some reason the tier 3 weapons look like beautifully machined full production weapons suitable for a showroom.
Also the captcha is fucking up and it's really annoying.
>>147100089
>Not having your own sneks to kill other sneks with
>>147100089
>>147100089
Snek deserved it you
>>147099480
Ask me again when no humans are ground into genome slushies, and I'll let you know.
>>147100050
pistols are usefulare you happy now
>>147100439
>>147100584
would by any chance have the image of sneaky pistol?
>>147100246
But I do, Anon. I use Playable Ayys for a reasonbeyond snek waifu
>>147100298
>>147100370
YOU ARE UNDER ARREST BY THE SNEK POLICE
>>147100720
>>147100720
>>147100837
>>147100886
thanks comrades
>>147100827
>>147100886
Pistols are useful
>>147100584
>>pistols are useful
YAY!!
>>147101025
You know what you have to do, anon.
why does Firaxis have to make everything XCOM has looks less cool then the advent stuff? have to friendly up the MEC's by renaming them Sparks and giving those damn WALL-E faces
>>147100584
>never need to reload (?)
>immune to weapon malfunction
breddy gud
So I figured out how to make capnbubs accessories and all other mods work with the new DLC/patch today. Just verify integrity of game cache in steam.
>>147101173
Just be careful, that blood isn't there because she got or nothin'.[She's on her snek-period is what I'm sayin'/spoiler]
>>147101173
Tell me anon
Even the ayys agree that Pistols are Useful.
>>147101316GIVEHERTHED.
>>147096192
>Rleased!!!
nice typo faggot
>>147101195
>>147101541
Thats mighty lewd friend
>council mission pops up 2 seconds before scan a continent away is about to finish
FUCK, JUST LET ME STAY THERE FOR THE TIME IT TAKES TO TAKE A SHIT FUCK OFF
Beagles?
>>147101710
Snek is for lewd.
>>147101405
>>147101681
What graphics options are you running? I hope it looks better than that in my game.
>>147101860
I see where your priorities lay.
>>147102168
That's not my screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/4jY5C
This shit needs updated version.
>>147102326
Why change perfection?But seriously why
Why do some arm configurations have shoulder armor on only one side? What use does that serve? Wouldn't you either have shoulder armor or not have it, no half/half?
>>147102632
The kevlar tier of armor is whatever XCOM could scrounge from junk and old war relics, so it's supposed to be more ragtag.
>>147102632
I have no idea. There's a mod for that though.
The character pool freezing seems to be caused by the longer names mod oddly enough. At least that's what it is for me.
If you don't have that installed then I'm sorry I can't help you.
Also the random buttons for customization don't seem to be working either, I'd disable those as they might have an impact on the freezing
>>147102632
I've always found shoulder pads silly looking on modern and sci-fi armor. Are they expecting to football tackle their plasma-slinging enemies?
>>147103009
What about a door?
>>147103096
You don't usually want to tackle doors open in a combat situation, because if it folds easily enough, you follow through into an unknown situation on the other side.
>>147103298
I can think of alot of situations where you'd want to tackle a door. Like if you were being chased by a plasma-sling enemy for example.
Besides, why wouldn't you football tackle a sectoid? And you still need to fight people.
>>147103009
>>147103096
>>147103298
Maybe not a door, but it'd certainly help with the impact of slamming into a wall or a pile of rubble at high speed. When you're moving from cover to cover under fire you really don't have time to mince about.
>>147103439
>>147103829
Yes, I suppose that's true. You'd be hard-pressed to find an actual soldier wearing shoulder pads, though.
>>147098308
>>147098068
Just so you guys see this
>>147102913
>>147096760
Have you checked your graphic settings? The patch could have reset them and set them to higher than you had them, resulting in slowdown.
>everyone looking forward to cosmetic spark mods
>they don't realize it has the same problem as the ayy hunters dlc where modders can't access the dlc assets
BEAGLES WHEN
>>147105826
Now.
>>147105565
Is that deliberate on Firaxis's part, or just an oversight?
>>147106068
deliberate, cant have people ripping all the DLC files.
>>147106068
Most likely an oversight to stop people from releasing the dlc for free somewhere else.
>>147105973
And it's mec time as well.
>>147106068
I'm sure it's deliberate, probably some piracy panic thing.
You know how sometimes people will upload Bethesda's dlc to the nexus because they're just plug and play? Well Firaxis doesn't want that, because unlike Todd they aren't swimming in cash and they still need to give a fuck.
>>147106267
I wonder if it might be possible to let us create mods with DLC assets as long as those mods are automatically flagged as DLC dependent.
>>147106443
I'm pretty sure that system is already in place, where you can flag a mod as requiring X dlc. Still can't use the assets.
>>147097038
Man, Shen Jr looks like ass
Whoa, Shen finally dropped? How long has it been out? I last came by here like two weeks ago.
I was running 136 mods, how fucked am I?
>>147108230
It came out today.
Flip a coin, but your should probably be all right. Just make to launch, and then relaunch your game. It probably changed all your settings and un-selected your mods.
>shen's last gift
>it's literally jsut robots
>no soldier sacrifice for the greater good
>just upjumped shit shivs
why this
mecs when
CAN I SMASH THROUGH WALLS???
>>147108409
this is what you're getting, cyborg mecs aren't coming back, it makse sense to have them in old xcom when the AI to run them didn't exist, and so a human interface was critical, not any longer
>>147108665
With the new SPARKS? I believe so.
>>147108668
>trusting ai
>ever
xcom 3 will be about the robitt apocalypse screencap this fucking shit
>>147108665
When overdrive is on or if you pick up the wrecking ball perk.
>>147100050
I kill way more people with this bitch out of her mech than in it
So I bought XCOM 2 with the reinforcement pack a couple of days ago...
When should I expect the "Shen's Last Gift" thing to show up? I'm worried because it doesn't appear on my list of DLC :(
>>147108319
I use the mod launcher
>>147108854
Thank god
TIME FOR NEW CAMPAIGN
>>147109164
is that girl naked and only covered by tattoos?
>>147108870
Her Pistols has a very Useful rate of fire.
>>147109465
Not him, but yes.
so in openxcom its been like 6-8 days and still no ufos that i have noticed, am i doing something wrong?
>>147109686
Check Graph for UFO activity
>>147109506
better than the mech actually
Think there will be more DLC in the future? Like, a mega sized one, like Enemy Within?
>>147109164
Why is the girl naked?
>>147110125
You want the males to be naked too? do you want to watch their purgeboners as they kill xeno scum?
>>147110303
Absolutely
>>This is not the Kinetic Punch I know.
- Beagle 2016
>>147109048
Hello? Anyone?
>>147110716
Hi, get a support ticket on steam they can help you
>>147109851
it shows that its high i just dont see any
>>147110716
Have you tried restarting steam?
>>147110481
Beagle can shove it where the sun don't shine
Also jamball a shit
>>147110835
Tried, no option for it
>>147111174
Yes, and in steam support it says I own it but its not appearing on my list of installed or purchased DLC
>>147111340
wtf is jamball
>>147109164
Can you please tell us what the Mossberg and M60 mods are? They look pretty good visually, but I worry about them sounding like shit or being unbalanced stats wise.
That XCOM EU rifle looks like shit though. It did in EU and still does in XCOM 2. Way over sized and looks more like a plastic toy.
>>147111594
Beagle's partner.
>>147111594
Jamball is Beagle's wife if I'm not mistaken.
>>147111698
>>147111754
It always amazes me that scraggly autist has a 3d waifu
>>147111858
Shes not exactly cute or anything.
This stream right now...
Update ruined by character pool. Even after a game restart no one's customization are coming back. That's over 100 soldiers fucked over. What's worse is that my character pool backup won't even display properly so I can't import that last list that was still working.
I
I don't even feel like video games anymore.
>>147110991
You need radar coverage to see UFOs. You can try patrolling around with aircraft, which have a short ranged radar, or you can build a base with a radar station there. Getting radar coverage expanded should be a priority, especially to Europe, Asia, and the Americas.
Some months you'll just not see many UFOS, since the aliens launch missions in random countries.
>>147112079
>tfw beags uses your plasma rifle
Also this patch broke modbuddy apparently, if i launch it through steam i can't debug my mod, people on leddit and the nexus seem to be having the same problem.
Th-thanks Jake.
Why does my computer shit itself whenever I'm in the Avenger base?
>>147112185
Verify your game cache man. Made all my mods work again.
>>Anime Hair is BACK
Time to check that out.
>>147112840
I want to have Jakes children.
Stream is Over.
>>147113268
Why? He'd just make you buy them all one at a time as dlc
>>147113329
You don't want to watch Overrated?
>>147113435
i watch overwatch just forTracershe's so dreamy
>>147113268
Sooo did you get it working? Verifying game cache worked for me. It said one files was missing and downloaded like 13 MB then all my mods worked.
>>147113435
I'll see it for Mei'sPistol.
So, someone better bring six SPARKs on the final mission with the Commander's Avatar. Let's see how that goes.
>>147115497
Taking 18 non turn ending actions?
Literally drawing all fire from enemies then being repaired to full?
Infinite amounts of 6 damage explosions?
Having rockets and hacking on the same unit?
Gee I wonder how that would go.
>MECs are actual robots now, not people
DROPPED
>>147116881
Is this a naruto? Whatever it is it looks awful.
>>147117026
Look up 'naruto vs pain' on youtube. It's fucking hilarious
>>147117080
Nigga I'm not watching something that's over an hour long.
What is this new bar below my squad members? I've never seen it before the DLC.
If they just re-added MELD and made Enemy Within 2.0 (I guess instead of MEC Troopers we could make, like, Adam Jensen type cyborgs and of course Gene Mods)), would you yay, or nay?
>>147117854
health pips yours arent showing up though
>>147117989
Yay, why fix what ain't broke.
should I just wait until all the DLCs and expansions are out because I honestly don't want to re-download and backtrack all my fucking mods everytime a new patch hits and fucks up everything
>silently release the DLC without any warning or hype
>it's absolute shit
>it's the last announced DLC
Is this is? Is XCOM over? Will there be an XCOM3?
>>147117739
Do one of the short ones. one that says something about tails
>>147118460
All the DLC is out. The expansion is a year or more out.
>>147118464
Calm down on being objectively wrong so much at one time.
>>147117739
>>147117080
>>147117026
>>147118705
Do you have the one of Pain running like Sonic?
>>147118705
I dont like what im seeing here
>>147118876
>>147118886
I got you senpai
>>147118937
It makes me laugh. Every fucking time. That fight looked so fucking garbage
>>147108870
Well, yeah.
>>147118549>>147118705
What the fuck am I even watching? Here I thought bleachs battles were incomprehensible garbage but this puts that to shame.
Do people actually like this?
Does anyone else think the shen story mission is just fucking awful? Pure enemy spam, one unit per turn elevator nonsense, on top of the incessant retarded dialogue, please firaxis. Fine with never touching that shit again.
>>147117854
>>147118018
It's showing up now before I launch the second mission, but now it's conflicting with ShowMeTheSkills.
>>147112840
>verify cache
>downloading 8 GB
YOU DID THIS TO ME
>>147120201
Well you obviously needed ur.
am i the only one that thinks that the health bar they added its completely unnecessary and looks awful out of place?
i mean they could have just added a small icon to the unit card to indicate that the spark is damaged
and from the unit list in the barracks just change "available" to "damaged"
i hope someone releases a mod to remove it
>VIP mission, decide to extract instead of kill
>ADVENT trooper is next to VIP
>fire a shot at trooper with 90% chance
>shot misses, goes through a car door and crit-kills the VIP
Is there anything more frustrating than that?
>>147121243
The fact that you're lying on the internet. is more frustrating.
>>147121243
You might have opened the fire menu before you finished moving
>>147111947
Pic?
>>147115869
I know it'll be a total curb-stomp. That's the point. It'll be hilarious. Play it right, and the Commander's Avatar wouldn't even have to do a damn thing.
Oh, and give half of them Blaster Launchers and the other half Shredstorm Cannons. I wanna see those enemy Avatars die fast and in hilarious ways.
>>147098338
This desu
>>147111631
As far as I know the weapons are completely identical to their ballistic, magnetic, and plasma counterparts. However, they tier up separately from your regular line of weapons.
I haven't had the chance to use them so I'm not sure what they sound like
>>147119764
Believe it or not, Naruto gets really good near the end. Doesn't save the other 95% of the show, though
>>147122526
I dropped it when Sasuke made it clear he was evil and not just a dick, that wasn't why I dropped it, but it helped me realize that the show was shitting the bed bad
I thought there was a "Red mist" like mod in the workshop
Am I wrong? I haven't played since before alien hunters and I'm re-doing all my mods. Anything similar?
>>147122825
Sausage helps save the day, but Nardo still has to beat the piss out of him to make him not evil. Not Sausage is a one-armed autistic loner dad who leaves Sakura and their child on their own while he explores the world.
Madara was cool
>>147123057
You mean red fog?
Look for second wave reborn on the workshop.
>>147102458
>tfw someone calls your photoshop perfect
>>147102326
I have to update the 'state of /xgc/ comic' with the latest arms autism after this dlc dropped. Wouldn't know how to represent the assburgers in picture form like the space mecha gandalf tangents.
All of XCOM 2's mods are nuked. They're all gone. You can only save one.
Which mod do you save?
>>147123420
That was it. Thanks senpai
>>147123505
I guess Flank Preview Evolved. That shit is great.
>>147123505
don't waste my time
>>147123505
A Better Advent.
>>147123653
But vanilla XCOM 2 has that now with the zip mode.
Whelp, game has crashed three times and I don't want to go back to vanilla. Mods are love, mods are life.
>>147124039
That actually works?
I admit I haven't played the game since I beat it after launch.
>>147124039
>>147124369
It works, but it doesn't work well enough. You should still use Don't waste my time on top of Zip mode.
EXALT
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>>147124832
>Kerrigan
>>147124627
Yeah, I didn't think so. I don't think Firaxis understands the need for speed I have as an amphetamine user.
>>147124832
The bandana hides the blushing
>>147125203
Nude mod?
i wish there was a mission to specifically assassinated a heavily guarded individual
and then after all their guards are downed or after taking a shot at them, they just brush it off and go maximum NANOMACHINES, SON
but alas, it is not to be
>>147124882
You are aware that's a real name right? Like there's a guy who plays cricket for lancashire in the uk called simon kerrigan?
>>147125436
Yes
>>147126027
Starcraft is more important than names though.
>>147126208
No.
>>147126282
I'm sorry your name was usurped by a video game. On the plus side, ramifications from the video games will hold true much longer than any effect you have on the world.
Cyclops robots when
>>147126078
Where?
Why do I suck so bad at Legend.
How do you overcome the RNG in the beginning.
>>147126757
loverslab
gosh, read the OP
>>147126760
I'm convinced most people don't. I'm willing to bet only a portion of the 1.2% of the people who have the Immortal Commander achievement have done so legitimately. Most people likely use mods to 'lighten it up', or 'fix' things.
I'm not saying it's impossible of course, that nobody has done it, or can do it. I'd go as far to say maybe half of that did so legitimately.
>>147127034
This definitely doesn't feel easier than EW. At least you could just turtle hard as shit. The turn timers force you into shit positions and you can't afford to lose any advantages to them on Legend. Like fuck man. It's sucking all of my enjoyment in this game
>>147126754
There's already a cyclops head.
>>147127225
Post it plz
Anyone else having this issue?
>>147126760savescumming
>>147117989
thats exactly wat i wanted
Oh well ._.
>>147127529
I haven't gotten mecs yet.
>>147117989
>>147127805
Only if they look SPOOKY
>those derelict/prototype MECs
Terminator mod when?
>>147096192
>MEC Returns Edition
Fucking lies, you mean stupid robot with MEC perks comes along and shits all over the notion of getting proper MECs.
>>147129834
>EVERYTHING HAS TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME AS EW OR IT'S SHIT
You are fucking insufferable.
>>147102818
Wrong.
>>147102836
>>147102632
It's to provide protection from the front when holding a Rifle. The shoulder that has the pad would be facing forward when you're holding a rifle, while your other shoulder is tucked back and relatively safe. It's a compromise between safety and weight.
