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Best Mom edition
previous thread: >>146916492

>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
General: http://pastebin.com/SYUXsKPv
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png

>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
Tierqueer Filter: https://ghostbin.com/paste/by42s

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CURRENT UPDATE: Lunaro
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/660347-update-lunaro/
CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Vauban
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/649037-update-18120-vauban-prime/
Older stream footage: http://pastebin.com/LkZRPteU
liestream highlights: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Livestreams
For specific liestream highlights, use http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Devstream_## (replace ##)
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if its not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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Reminer not to bully ash prime users
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1st for its fucking nothing see you next week
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nth for cute Combas and Datalysts
Summon Memes
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I Will never stop praying for a prime version of oberon
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When will DE stop pushing lunaro? I'll give it 2 more weeks and it'll sleep in the basement with archwing.
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>>146994125
Here you go more.

>>146995724
I still won't be satisfy until he gets a good rework.
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Liestream soon.
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>>146995921
Don't believe their lies.
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>>146995921
Oh so tomorrow they will have a devtsream after all? They need to address all the DElays then.
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>>146995921
what liestream? theres nothing anywhere
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>>146996105
>>146996186
Prime time on thursday, Liestream on friday, if nothing has changed.
Announcement isn't up yet.
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>>146996186
Just like their content.
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>>146995547
goddamn normal ash is so fucking ugly.

you can tell he was going to be a girl and they just didnt give a shit and made a last minute sex change.
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Why can't you use the regular version of a frame as the skin for prime version? Primes are so fucking ugly. You can use the helmet already, just let us use the goddamn body too.
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>>146997108
I really want this also.

DE won't code it however, which is pretty easy.
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do we have a confirmed date for when the void is TUMBLING DOWN?
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>>146996379
#SAVAGE
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>>146997587
no
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>those shittastic new operator lines in the war within script

God I hate this kid. Why is there still no option to airlock the little fucker? Why do they insist on forcing it into everything?
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>>146997941
My warframe is a BIG DEAL.
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>>146997941
scott or your potato?
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>>146997941
You can turn them off in menu.
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>>146998071
my potato

>>146998261
the new quest involves them extensively and i'm still annoyed they even exist in the first place
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>>146998329
Yeah I don't like them too. But we will just have to complete that quest and we're done.
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>>146998071
Yes.
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>Kid potatoes
>Adult voices
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>>146997941
>those tight, tight pants
jesus christ i want her to sit on my face and call me her baby
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>>146998559
MY WARFRAME IS STRONG.
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>>146998043
>My warframe is a BIG MEAL
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How old is thicc anyway? Mid-twenties?
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>>146998912
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>>146998808
>fucking map on the screen
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>>146998808
MY WARFRAME IS STRANG
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>>146997941

>Great job, Ordis. Ship Cephalon? More like Ship Fail-bot.
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>>146998808
MY WARFRAME IS A RIP-OFF
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>>146999862
Oberon rework never.
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Thanks for the extremely detailed op /wfg/. I'm enjoying the game a lot.
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>>146996675
>haven't claimed Ash Prime in months because it looks like a gaudy overdesigned mess of tokusatsu villain cliches
I'm not roleplaying as His Imperial Lordship Scorponicus Edgia (EX Unsheathed Mode) over here.
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HOW TO BALANCE FROST

>globe now drains energy p/second increasingly like valkyr's hysteria.

>globe now decays losing 1% effective HP p/second


there you go DE hire me.
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>>146995547
reposting because it was after the new thread post:

>see "Hosting Draco
>Join as Ash prime
>2 other Ash prime
>fourth guy joins in
>it's an ash prime
>nothin personnel the whole fucking 8 rounds
>55k focus

this was so fucking retarded but so rewarding.


also ash P seems so armored, but then the bottom looks like he skipped leg armor day, there's nothing there
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so was that becca just a troll?

nothing nice happened?
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>>147002440
>how to KILL frost
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>>147002440
If DE really did go around replacing duration with drain warframe frame would be in the same state as weapons. Literally can not use any weapon without 2 straight dmg mods and multishot. Just wasting slots.
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>>147002440
Fuck, don't give them ideas for another (((re-work))).
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who wants to play moonalo with me

like, right now, here on 4chan.
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>>147002440
you forgot to make avalanche shit again

also fuck off, frost is perfect
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>>147003062
>google search moonalo
>get Shit Fart Offline
no fuck off
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>>147002825
nothing nice ever happens
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>>147002440
You just want to see him die, don't you?
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*teleports behind you*
Nothing personal tenno
*unsheathes katana*
*bladestorms you*
hehe....that was easy
*smokescreens*
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>>147003820
>unsheathes katana

not 'nikana'

one job, sheldon
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>>147003923
FUCK ME YOURE RIGHT
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>>147003820
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Daily reminder that ash prime is better than loki in every way

prove me wrong, lokifags
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>>147004238
60s of invs with hushed aug vs 8s of invs
Ash sprint speed doesn't compare to loki speed demons
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>>147002440
Nerfing frost is the wrong way to go. They should BUFF frames to be equally good, not nerf them so they're equall bad.

For example, instead of having duration, Volt shields should have hp similar to frost, and by hitting the shield with Volt's Shock, it "recharges" the shield and nearby shields.

That and increase the angle and curvature of the shield that way it can actually cover objectives.
Boom. Now volt can actually be useful, maybe not frost teir good at defense, but with that he can actually compete.

Another example would maybe be give Ivara a slow/status proc effect to enemies that enter her bubble/cross her zip lines. Again, not as simple as snow globe, but adds options.
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>Hijack
What the fuck is this?
It's like a worse defense, jesus christ.
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>>147003820
you forgot to mention his founder status and MR 22
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>>147004238
Radioactive spammable moshpit says hello
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>>147004543
don't you think frames are overpowered enough in comparison to the enemy?
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>>147004840
...
no?
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>>147004840
yeah, Mercury is a blast!
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>>147004625
>Worse
>Goes faster than defense
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>>147004975
warframe is a real challenge for you huh
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>>147004625
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>>147004625
>volt Capacitance build
>spam 4
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>>147004625
Corpus Hijack might be the easiest mission type in the game after deception. Just about as short, too.
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>>147005102
It certainly rivals it in terms of obnoxiousness
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>>147005123
are you doing this to distract the gen about how we didn't get a fuck today?
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>>147004932
They only need to fix their shit homing missiles.
Homing should fall off after a certain amount of seconds.
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>>147004840
>guys how come the golem built for bloodbaths is more powerful than space jews with their robots, degenerating clones, and hivemind not-zerg mostly made up of fleshy bits
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>>147004932
implement MGSV enemy rocket mechanic and you get a winner.
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>>147005313
so, how new are you?
did you get to the part where ballistas or the infested poison will OHKO you?
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>>147005306
I agree with you there. I just like Hijack over defense because you actually get a sense of moving, unlike the small defense maps.
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>>147005313
No worries, there are always more annoying enemies
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>>147004410
>60s
>8s

>>147004238
they're my two favorite frames, but I like to think of him as a tactical and offensive alternative to loki's strategic and defensive battlefield control with overall different applications and strengths
>press 1 to break target camera/grate/container
minimal usefulness but on par with liki, useful for stripping armor for test purposes if not terribly practical in the field
>cheaper but shorter non-air-castable non-muting non-hushed invis
objectively inferior unless you really value environmental sounds that much, or you want to try and smoke out your squad with the augment
>asymmetric *teleprots behidn u*
no ability to sleek into things with a decoy but offers potentially more dynamic transit options (teleporting to objectives and shit) and the option to roll the dice on an apparent 80% chance to straight nothing personnel the target because DE's finishers are the fucking sleekest triggers and animations in the universe
>believe it
soon to be nerfed one-click melee-combo-rampup cutscene wiping DEAC content in a big already stealth nerfed to use limited LoS radius or laughably whittling away at ancients and too-high-level sortie targets is certainly very useful, but it's hard to directly compare to the ability to literally start a big glowstick rave in that they have very different uses (and the disarm will scale infinitely)

tl;dr liki is better but I like ashu for edge
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>>147005364
void magic you faggot
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Okay so i got a prime frame, prime weapon and melee and prime sentinel

what should i do next to gear up for endgame lvl 80-100s?
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>>147005487
You do know Bombard's missiles continue to follow you until they finally hit an object, wall or you?
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>>147005649
quit
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>>147004840
>4 space ninjas vs infinite amount of robots and genetically damaged clones
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>>147005583
>it's an "i need friends" episode
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>>147005617
I was mocking that anon for complaining that warframes are "overpowered" compared to the enemy
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>Turning the corner to face 3 Corpus Techs
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Wait
Does switch teleport safeguard take mesa out of peacemaker?
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>>147005649
Prime mods
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>>147005785
but they are

what is your mission success rate anon :^)
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>>147005738
no u faggot
YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME OR MY CRIPPLING SOCIAL ANXIETY
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>>147005676
yes, that's why i told you that even if you fix the bombards you have several other enemy's gimmicks to rekt your ass in higher levels.
didn't thought that i should spell this shit for you to understand it.
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>>147005841
only baro has em or what?
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>>147005887
Crippling you say?
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>>147005912
Yeah, prime mods are the Baro-jew exclusive.
You'll also want to look into corrupted mods, you can get them from derelict vaults that need a key, they're easier to get with friends but you still got a 25% chance on your own.
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>>147005814
>void exterminate
>opening a door to 3 heavy gunners, a bombard, 2 ancients, a few MoA's, and some generic infantry
>all in a small room
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>>147006139
Bioshock 2 is my favorite pseudo-incest game
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>>147006139
I don't understand how it relates to DE.
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>>147006217
>tfw fucking everything up with the drill
That shit was satisfying as fuck
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>>147006252
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>>147006337
>that circle

rofl
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>>147006139
>what of sinclair? the man who would sell paradise

Fuck this just describes the state how warframe is handled nowadays
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>>147006485
What circle?
I don't think it was clear enough.
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Guys I haven't played this game in like 2 years what weapons are top tier right now?
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>>147006620
Boltor prime/tonkor
Lex prime/Kulsar
Nikana/War

There
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why does everyone hate this game but is still here

you assholes remind me to the dota 2 community
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>>147006336
V A M P I R E D R I L L
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>>147006748
Because we are watching a game we liked die.
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>>147006748
It caters to my fetish

No wait, I like collecting frames, that's it.
Also can't let go of the past, of times that weren't as shit, good pleasant times.
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>>147006774
>Vampire Drill
>Needing that.
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>>147006843
too deep man. fuck you for making me feel stuff.
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>>147006748
>tfw I just need a timesink
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>>147006748
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>>147006748
because I'm trying to get Rebecca to notice me so I can propose to her
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>>147007119
this should be in the pastebin to warn new players
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>still
why
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>>147006748
people still play it because they enjoy it and updates add new content

I still enjoy it, even if literally all I do is log in, sorties, focus farm, log out

Despite what people say, they still play the game so clearly they are still enjoying it

I can't fathom why people would play a game they no longer enjoy

Just close your eyes and walk away from the screen
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What's going on here?
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>>147006748
Warframe, at its core, is a very fun game. The mechanics and premise, and even the grindy endless horde killing is pulled off well enough that it scratches an itch other games (like Destiny) haven't quite managed to scratch. It's just being done worse and worse, layered with more and more useless crap every update.

And as >>147006843 said, part of what keeps me here it he strange mixture of smug satisfaction and quiet melancholy that I get from watching something I wanted so desperately to succeed degenerate into a bland mess of wet paper that surrounds a shrinking, albeit solid core.

Its like an old friend that went away, only to return a paraplegic with dementia and nothing to offer but memories of times long past.
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>>147007410
>he literally leveled up almost every single weapon in the fuck game

holy shit get a fucking life you perma-virgin and go outside
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>have rhino forever
>get the arcane Thrak and Vanguard helmets back in the day
>wear Thrak all day erry day for more tanking
>these days my fastest frame was Valkyr
>leveling up rhino prime
>decide what the fuck, might as well give the Vanguard helm a shot
>mfw
I was not expecting this
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>>147007463
>Just close your eyes and walk away from the screen

You should do that too tierqueer
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>>147007576
I'd feel better if I hadn't missed a handful of exclusives
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uff
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>>147007538
Dude, that is deep... and true. I come here to images not feels
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>>147007913
rhino noob
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>>147007538
I want to dock vulkars with ballista [113]
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>>147008204
Have your Ballista while I cuddle my Comba
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>>147008204
That's disgusting.
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>>147008369
>That eye
This is inaccurate. I demand to file a complaint as it represents Grineer kind in the wrong way.
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>>147008638
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When will this game just die already?
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Reyojce! I'll be away from the computer for a while, so Baro will bring several one-time only shit, and there will be an amazingly rewarding event.

My question though: is there a way to buy shit from baro from a mobile app or something?
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>>147009306
just leave your login info with someone you trust, like us
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>>147009306
No, but if you give me your login info I can get it for you :3
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>>147009306
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> Friend gets back into the game after our binge session last summer before the Void Trader was introduced on consoles
> Ask what prime parts he has to trade in
> Full Ember set

Nigga just made 500 plat
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>>147009306
oh are you going to AX too?
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>>147009590
>500
holy shit he made a third of what he could have
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>>147006748
im a sucker for skinnerboxes and collecting shit, witha fear of missing out on limited items.

If i sold each shitty MMO accuount i grinded up, i would be rich man, but alas, fuck that noise, and yahoo decided to lock me out from most of my kinda-throwaway emails so fukit.

Good news is that im missing only 6 currnently obtainable (including trade) weapons +emeber p, and am reaching MR21 without prettymuch all arcwhing shit (beacue even i cant be bothered by it), so im runing out of excuses to come back.
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Does Rebecca have a boyfriend/husband?
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>>147010182
Yeah, me.
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>>147004543
>1 frame/weapon/mechanic OP
>"hurr durr lets buff everything else instead of the nerf one thing that's broken"
Spoken like a true retard.
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>>147009590
>500
LOL
O
L
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>>147010304
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>>147008861
I'll have my lawyers for this!
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>>147008357
my waifu has a larger caliber rifle than yours
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>>147010390
those dick sucking lips

too bad she's a lesbo
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>>147010319
that' guy itrust has no shame. doesn't even hide that he's buying and selling at the same time.
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>>147010684
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So for my ash prime build I got max power then some range then flow and efficiency so it doesn't cost 190 fucking power to use. Added steel charge. Do I need to change anything or grab the augment?
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Just tried out the Azima, seems like absolute fun
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>>147010909
Now forma it for no absolute reason what so ever even if it sucks that bad.
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>>147010909
>Azima
What is that?
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>>147010885
max strength*
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>>146995547
PREMIUM R63 ASHU SKIN WHEN? I really fucking wish Ash stayed a girl.
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>>147010885
If you are building for bladestorm that go max range and strength. You can collect energy with carrier. I've never seen the difference with and without the bladestorm augment so thats up to you.

Go for cp over steel charge. It makes a difference.
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>>147010885
http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

see frame guide

max efficiency > max str for most cases

no need for Flow with max efficiency
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>>147010885
You need to change the game you are playing. Be free anon!
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>>147007119
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>>146994125
>useless frame does not associate with useless frames
u wot m8?
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>>147011169
>see *my* frame guide
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>>147011169
Oh here we go

>>147010885
Dude dont listen to>>147011169 trust me
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>>147011165
>It makes a difference.
for anything that isn't bladestorm, sure
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>>147011165
Ok well I guess that makes sense that id want more range than power seeing as max power does 9600 damage. Seems like overkill. But CP over steel charge really?
>>147011169
You're literally contradicting the guide you link so you must be retarded.
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>>147011169
nobody fucking wants you here and nobody asked for your shit
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>>147011347
10/10
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>>147011435
have fun having dmg fall off. It must be fun bladestorming the same mob over and over again.
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>>147011356
Valkyr is usefull though!

As a sex toy for Kubrows
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>>147011347
This is really cute.
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>>147011489
nothing I said contradicts the guide

but if you want to follow the advice of someone who suggests CP for bladestorm, go ahead
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>>147011597
do you... have any idea what finisher damage is, or how it works? do you even read the numbers on your screen? go ahead, try bladestorming something with and without corrosive projection on (not in the simulacrum, auras don't work there)

the damage fall-off on blade storm is very real but has absolutely nothing to do with armor, it's simply because it deals flat damage (though it can scale with power strength, melee combo multiplier, melee delete this, and ash's passive for the procs) and it counts as a power for purposes of mitigation by ancient bullshit auras
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>>147011685
>max efficiency > max str for most cases

>-Bladestorm build that runs high power strength and high range. Dump stat is duration, though some players like to add in Prime Continuity so they can use Smoke Screen as a get-out-of-jail button. Press 4 and watch cutscene, over and over. Good for Defense missions to speed up killing waves, especially in augmented armor Grineer sorties. The only build in the game that works best with Steel Charge and doesn’t require a dash aura polarity slot for CP. Mod your melee weapon with Fury/Quickening to speed up the animation and Body Count to increase damage. Other melee mods don’t carry over.

Shoulda listed that in your "guide" then idiot. Either way you seem to be some kinda giant faggot so fuck off with your "guide".
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Reminder not to fall for old baits from tierqueer to prevent thread derails
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that's the last time I ever satisfy my curiosity

I'd like to get the lex skin, but conclave is not fucking worth it
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>>147011628
She is useful
for Zanuka parts
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>>147011685
>recommending steel charge over cp
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>>147011884
>Unless otherwise stated, each build will, of course, maximize power efficiency.

read the intro faggot

maximizing efficiency is such a basic tenant of modding that it's taken for granted. You need a good reason to NOT mod for max efficiency, and BS is not a good reason
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>>147011926
>lex skin
I fucking want that, badly, but I can't really stand conclave - it's only fun when I'm either hosting or playing with low-latency people who stick around for more than one round, and when it doesn't sleek, and when it doesn't host migrate, etc etc
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>>147011926
Maybe you need to git gud at cheesing it instead of playing seriously.

Of course its not worth it anon. You play only for the sigils and armor.
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>>147011926
hey anon, could you show me my your comp riv guards on a big frame plz
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>>147012015
Or I could just not read your shit guide?
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>>147011905
Holy fuck.
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>>147011905
You're too late anon, the shitposting has already begun.

THIS THREAD IS DOOMED
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You know what i learned?

I can post a single image, a single link and it derails threads after threads and never fails no matter what filter. no bans and no warnings

you guys will, and always, never learn, even after 5 months

you all caused this yourselves
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>>147010990
I have fully forma'd twin grakatas which i customized solely for total ammo, magazine, multishot, and firerate and not at all for damage because i like to have fun

I don't bring those types of weapons on sorties because I'm not a shitter but its always nice to have guns like them to make DEAC missions less boring
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>>147012078
they're just the min guards with some extra small spikes added
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>>147012241
not tierqueer
get out you fake
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>>147011986
I'm not going to back tierqueer here, but >>147011843
see:
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_2.0/Finishing_Damage
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Blade_Storm
unfortunately, while finishing damage type from procs, ev, etc do still seem to bypass shields, physical finisher attacks no longer do, so the wiki's wrong on that count
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>>147012243
That's good that you like to have fun. HAVE FUN!
WHY DO YOU HIDE IT? BE PRIDEFUL

Shout in this thread and say "I LIKE HAVING F U N."
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>>147012241
>a guy with an anime reaction image looking for any sort of attention

what a surprise..
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Type /? to view available chat commands.
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after hours and hours and hours in void survival and defense I've decided im not gonna farm for vaub and ash parts, instead im gonna sell a bunch of small things till i can afford their parts

what are mods and parts that are worht something and how do I farm them
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>>147012241
No one wants your shitty, forced, and poorly ranked tier guide.
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>>147012492
/w [de]rebecca So, what color panties are you wearing tonight?
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>>147012501
i got vauban prime for 145 plats so fuck farming and start jewing
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>>147012501
>Asking a jew to reveal it's tricks
You better start apologizing for the 6 gorillion right now goy
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Remember this is your operator when you play Valkyr.
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>>147012081
do w/e you want. If you want to play a shitter build while following the advice of shitters like
>>147011986
>>147011165
then go ahead

there's nothing I hate more than shitters who try to talk back to more experienced players
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>>147012739
Maybe you should learn about the game if you wanna have that attitude.
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>>147005814
>bring glaiveP to deal with nullifiers while burning through T3S keys just to 20 minutes each.
>decide to go to 40 a few times because I get decent tiles
>38 minutes, running to life support, double stack of nullifiers, each with their own ancient healer
>Oh, and an arctic bombard for good measure
>ded before I could pop the first bubble because I had a Vhek.
Fuck. Nullifiers should also be immune to friendly Ancient and Eximus auras. It still triggers me that hitting a nullifier bubble actually counts as a fucking miss, so it shits on your accuracy score. The one thing I tried to keep up all this time. My overall accuracy is soon going to fall below 50% for the first time ever, solely because of fucking nullifiers. Hell, before nullifiers (and the fact that DE added accuracy stats to sentinel weapons and melee weapons), my overall accuracy was over 70%. That's with 2k+ hours.
Also, the fact that you can never actually hit with the Simulor, but it still counts accuracy, so EVERY shot counts as a miss. It doesn't ignore the accuracy stat like continuous weapons do.
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so this is what happens when you go too fast
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>They are still falling for tierqueer baits

Jesus
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>>147012909
dunno what you're trying to imply. I know a lot about the game, and the guide is accurate, certainly much more so than the typical retard on /wfg/ as this ash discussion has demonstrated
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>>147013113
While the guide does seem to include accurate information your "tier list" of frames is entirely based on personal opinion and differs largely from the opinions of the majority of players. If you want to be an authority on info then you need to set aside your personal opinions and pride and make the guide objective and based on facts. Just because you've "played longer" doesn't make you all knowing and 100% right.
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>>147010647
Touche, the Grineer are strong in that department with their training.
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>>147012362
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>>147013315
Where the hell is the Scott or Steve head?
B-.
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Would letting punch-through work against Nullifiers but drastically decreasing the damage balance them?
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>>147013301
and genetic modification/enhancement

>ywn discreetly slot heavy calibur into her vulkar in the midst of cuddling
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>>147013280
>differs largely from the opinions of the majority of players
The majority of players are absolute shitters who think Hydroid is a good frame, or that Mesa provides great CC, or that Rhino is one of the tankiest frames in the games (all arguments people have given me in the past). Majority rule is no way to make a guide, especially when most players don't even bother giving out reasons for their thoughts.

Whenever players offer reasons for changes, I always reply. Even if I disagree, if enough players suggest it and it isn't pants-on-head retarded, I'll put it in.
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>>147013862
how are nullifiers even real haha just walk to them and melee them nigga
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>>147013862
this would be one good step, the other would be drastically tweaking the range on shots required to pop the bubble such that a single high-damage projectile can manage it
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D:
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>>147014081
Here i'll link you a good objective guide so you can get an idea of what to do to make yours good.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DdsYLFaWL58_mQeKewm_ejCQdfXM7hSVx9o4PbZ-yD8/htmlview?sle=true#
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>>147013862
the only real problem with nullifiers are that they don't instantly pop unlike arctic globes.
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>>147014098
How are Nullifiers real, if this game isn't real?
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>>147011169
let me kiss your tummy already
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>>147011905
>oh_you
>oh_well
>"has it really been that long"
>"where has the time gone"
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>>147010885
i'm making mine still but i run: (mods aren't maxed in my case... but should be)

Aura:
E. Siphon

Mods:
Reach
Blind Rage
Intensify
Transient Fortitude
Streamline
Fleeting Expertise
XXXXX
XXXXX

Exilus
Power Drift

this makes your bladestorms cost 65 iirc, thing is once you max zenurik aura you'll be getting 4.6 energy a second, which recharges bladestorm pretty fucking fast

you get 2 slots for whatever you want, i don't know what i want to put there myself, the BS augment is supposedly pretty shit if you have -duration, and is absolutely outclassed by having body count in your melee (i think, i wasn't around for THE FUCKING EVENT FFF-)

i'm thinking P. Flow with quick thinking is the best option for tankiness.
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>>147014081
>if enough players suggest it and it isn't pants-on-head retarded
Being an onlooker to this... "discussion", I feel the need to point out how impossible that qualification is to breach. These threads will have difficulty reaching your nebulous "enough players" qualification (we're lucky to break 100 IPs most threads, and we all know a lot of it is shitposting). As for the arguments being retarded, as you pointed out to the previous dissenters, that is something purely judged by you.

So you have a situation where legitimate criticism can fall under your "not enough players" condition and any other time where multiple people give different views, you can counter with "pants-on-head retarded" because they're too busy arguing with themselves to formulate something you deem sufficient. That means the guide isn't really anything people have input on.
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>>147014289
it was a shit list even before it was out of date
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>>147014898
That's just your opinion. I've been using it since I came back and everything listed on it has been accurate and led to me being a better player.
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>>147014898
>omg guys explain why don't just shitpost!!
>lol that guide sux dix
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>>147014545
And this guy hasn't got banned
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>>147014979
DELETE THIS
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>>147014979
how do I replicate this sleek?
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>>147014979
neat
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>>147015032
>>147015049
it's sleek, I ain't gotta explain shit - I watched one guy circle the drain for a good minute after the end of a round before he got sucked in
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sup bros quick question

anyone knows what was removed in order to add those new items in the reward pool?
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>>147009590
>Only 500
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>>147014704
The "enough players" and "pants-on-head-retarded" clause was only for suggestions I disagree with. For example, I dislike using Firequake on Ember, but enough people like using it that I felt compelled to add it to the guide. I also dislike using Limbo for Spy/Rescue missions (Loki is much faster) but enough people do that I also added it to the guide.

One person saying one thing can be enough of a reason for something to be added to the guide, e.g. Atlas farm vs. Sentients, and Creeping Terrify Nekros also got added because one person said it was good (I later tested it, and it was decent).
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>>147015297
the update release date
and ash prime
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>>147015328
So you admit everything in the guide is just based off what YOU like and what YOU want and YOU think is good. Therefore your guide is shit.
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>>147015297
https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData/commit/b219888fca8fe2d745538e6d58739c8560992322#diff-d5561246c5e26973f69cf7f18ace874f
https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData/commit/e76492723efac1a12e29d0daf451e034658caea1#diff-d5561246c5e26973f69cf7f18ace874f

looks like he changed the format so there's a lot of "noise" in the diff, but you can see pretty easily how things were altered in the tables
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>>147012739
So you admit you hate yourself BPNPC ?
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>>147015467
>>147015381

thanks guys you are awesome
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>doing tower survival
>being a shitter and sitting around in front of the console waiting to pop my focus for energy regen
>bring up steam overlay to look at some shit on the wiki in the browser
>overlay browser is set to take up whole screen
>tab out to second monitor to read the shitposts here
>all of a sudden the damage notifications catch my eye
>close the steam overlay right when I die
>no dialog of something leaving after a successful assassination attempt
>respawn
>nothing in the room except for some ammo and credits where I died
Spooky
As I was typing this Captain Vor started talking about some shit or another, so I guess he did it
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>>147015467
Which mission is that for ash prime helm it just says sabotage A
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>>147015017
>>147015020
literally too much shit to post. It has absolutely retarded statements like "Pre-nerf Mesa has great damage," Vauban lower than fucking Atlas (who is first in top tier), Nekros in top tier because he can revive teammates, etc. dumb fucking shit

And that's without getting into how it barely explains its reasoning for the tier list, and NO info whatsoever on how to build frames

By the way, the tier list also has Bows as some of the best weapons in the game

It's also outdated by several weeks
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>>147015887
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>>147015887
And somehow it's still better than yours.
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>>147015458
I've already said this multiple times. Yes, the guide is based largely on my opinion, but this is the opinion of someone who has 1k+ hours in the game.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who made the guide. The only thing that matters is accurate the guide is and how well it backs itself up.
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>>147015813
internally, tower missions are referred to as A-D, being T1-T4, so that's t1sab, "rotation" c
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i wonder if tierqueer is cute!
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>>147016008
You still don't get it do you? Your hours don;t matter. It matters if your info is not based on opinion. If its based on opinion then it might as well not even exist because it means your info cant be trusted.
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STOP

FALLING

FOR

THE TIERQUEER BAITS

HE SAMEFAGS WAY TOO MANY TIMES ONCE A REPLY IS MADE
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>>147015995
Use whatever you want. I can give people advice and warn people away from shitters, but the player himself is ultimately responsible for what he chooses

If you actually want to explain and give reasons why that tier list is better than my guide, I'm still here, but you're not going to
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>>147016063
Oh wow now that I look at it again it makes sense. I'm retarded thanks.
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>>147016125
>If its based on opinion then it might as well not even exist because it means your info cant be trusted.
Fallacy of the first order. Opinion matters. Few things not just in Warframe but IRL is completely trusted to objective evidence.

You sound like a college freshman taking his first stat course.
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>>147016170
It's all over the thread desu opinion < Fact, rework your guide and then see how WFG feels about it.
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>>147014545
leave my BF ALONE or ill fucking smash you
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>>147016579
you can stop samefagging
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>>147016460
Like what? The guide uses fact e.g. "SC is better than CP for Ash" when such facts are available and relevant.

Give examples, not this generalized shitposting.
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>>147016579
Why love Tier guide guy mystery anon?
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