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>146655832

Clans:
EU-NOFUN
http://eu.wargaming.net/clans/500011239/

NA-GOYIM
http://na.wargaming.net/clans/1000022908

>where do i look up tanks
tanks.gg
>how do i get platoons
get some friends
alternatively join NOFUN or GOYIM or ask in the/vg/ channel
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aneem
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BENIS
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>>146861262
>muh poorly drawn jap cartoon
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hang all weebs
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Is there a /vg/ channel up yet? I've searched /vg/ and have found nothing.
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>>146861315
May that picture remind everyone of what could have been
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>>146861380
make one then, it's summer and everything is extra ded
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>>146861262
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>>146861380
On NA probably not right now. Even when i get on later it is usually just me, sam, and sometimes snpai anon
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The WG goys are getting pretty desperate with this one.
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>>146861482
>>146861557
No worries I've got it
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>>146861653
Do they actually think they're fooling anyone with that 'last chance' shit? It'll be back in 2-3 months as with every other Rare premium.
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>>146861797
I've seen a lot of these come-and-go premiums, back when I had left the game they didn't even do that. Still, they aren't as vile as fucking Gaijin is.
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>>146861797
Instead of just putting it into the game goldshop they do this annoying shit where they sell """"""""""rare"""""""" and """"""""""""unique""""""""""" premiums literally every 2 months thinking they'll get more money of it. WGs marketing team is braindead to say the least
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>>146861879
>aren't as vile as fucking Gaijin
I've never seen a company so aggressively try to kill it's own fanbase.

Still, it's like WG thinks they're still spooking everyone with the Type 59 boogeyman. Leaving the shop! Might never see it again! Buy it now goys!
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>>146861653
>costs more than tier VIII premium mediums
what a bargain
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>>146861439
Someday there'll be a Benis Caliphate on the CW map
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>>146862176
I think it actually backfires on them to an extent. These cash only premiums reduce the value of buying gold and aren't eligible for discounts. A lot of people who might have gotten gold for the VK at 30% off some day now have to consider >>146862353 and likely won't.
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>>146862283
Gaijin is exactly why I'm back in WoT, really.

And yeah, I don't know who they think they are fooling really. I think maybe they got a big panic-buy out of the playerbase when they got rid of the Type 59 (glad I already had mine), and so they think they can get it again and again, although they are maybe generating 5% more sales because of it (I'm completely uninformed, just making a guess here.), but the thing is that it doesn't cost them a thing to yank things in and out of sale.

>>146862353
What is the price compared to other Tier 7 premium HTs? Then again, isn't there only one other?
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>>146862501
>NA
>CW
It's a complete waste of time even with the possibility of tournaments being cut off.
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>>146862283
At least type 59 is good™, meanwhile WG is selling sub-par tanks like Scorpion, KonanPanzer and Fatton-59 in overpriced as fuck bundles as if they were OP or something
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>>146862507
People, specifically wehrboos will eat up anything look at nippon tiger and panther 88, both tanks are arguably shit but they sell like hot cakes, WG would make twice the money if they simply made this VK a regular premium available in both website and ingame shop.
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>>146862550
>What is the price compared to other Tier 7 premium HTs
probably the cheapest one since others (berlin IS-2, A45) are always sold in fiddy buck bundles
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>>146863140
God I hate this bundling bullshit F2P games do.

I honestly think on average they would get more money if they just allowed people to buy the tanks. I feel a lot of people would buy if that were the case.
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>>146863290
>I feel a lot of people would buy if that were the case
They would, even shit tanks sell well when sold in ingame shop/website. Good tanks on the other hand like Berlin trio or IS-3A would end recession in Belarus within a week. Of course then these tanks would lose their "rare and unique" status and that means WG would have to produce more tanks which translates to labor and nobody likes that shi, now come on, let's just rotate same tanks for another year and make money in the long run :^)
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what did he mean by this?
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>4100 dmg
>2nd class

wat
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>>146861262
Are they amazonians wtf
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>>146864491
>people still blur their names
People literally never cared who you are, nor will they in the future.
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>>146864643
>arty """"""players"""""
>people
pick one
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>>146864369
He's trying to tell you to stop playing shit games
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>>146864705
I mean in the same sense people play Cookie Clicker, yeah
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>>146864369
lmao, funny part he has it completely wrong way around.
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>>146864808
Ah, you mean paraplegics, k
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Speaking of arty, is the American tier IX Arty still better than the tier X?
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>>146864369
what did he mean by this?
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looks like I'm better than all of you
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>>146864808
>Pressing the left mouse button is hard when its in a Russian med
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>>146865501
>recent stats are only updated intermittently and may be a few months out of date

do you even play anymore?
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>Top 10 movie tank scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Ga_oZuAKE
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>>146865501
>sub 2k wn8
4/10, made me reply
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>>146865787

>no GuP

SHIIIIT list
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>>146865692
I wouldn't be posting if I didn't
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>>146864913
Yes
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>>146860268
are you going to applly
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>>146867912
Yes, I just left NTR today so I can't until the 30th it says.
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>>146862727
>At least type 59 is good™

Not really, every time I drive it I get cancer. If it just had better gun handling so it didn't feel like you were aiming with an E100 cannon the Typu would be so much better
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>>146861262
What the shit are they feeding these whores.
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>>146870381
lotsa pasta
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>>146870114
God forbid a tier lower T-54 with premium MM has downsides to it
>having to aim your shots
oh the horrors
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>>146870709
>3 aim time
>.4 accuracy

You'll never understand true suffering. The tank has been powercreeped to shit, yes you can still bully lower tiers which has always been its strong point, 7 degrees of gun depression is the only thing that saves it from being a useless pile of shit
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>>146870936
no
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>have to re-install the game
>again
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>>146870114
The problem is all the generic -10dp 6.75 mediums that are being added, it's a relic of a better time
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>>146871143
>with 2 perk crew and equipment
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>Type 59 owners trying to downplay their pref MM tank
every time
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>>146871442
2.7 is absolutely disgusting though, the aim time is incorrigible

try sniping with your 181 pen and see the shell either veer out of the aiming circle or do nothing

>>146871556
if normal tier 8s could only see tier 9 then it would be fine :^)
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>>146871556
>literally T-54 with 20mm less penetration and not-broken gold round
>fantasy gun depression combined with slavshit turret
THE SUFFERING, THE AIMTIME
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>>146871668
>try sniping with your 181 pen
T-44 and T-34-2 called, said something about you being a shitter
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>>146872070
they don't have E100 gun handling
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>>146872174
e100 has good gun handling dude stop saying that
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>>146872234
e100 isn't a tier 8 med though, the stats are going to be worse for the type since it is pref but wargaming devoted their hateboner to the gun handling and nothing else

also I want the pre-HD model back at least it didn't drive like a heavy tank and had acceleration
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>>146872462
it's a bad comparison, stb-1 is more apt
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>>146872174
I see we made the full circle and its "muh aimtime" all over again
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>>146872558
STB has APCR and it's in the same penetration category as the other tier 10 meds which both help massively
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>>146872641
i'm talking about gun handling, nothing else
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sandbox owns
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>>146872624
yes because that is the main issue with the tank

>>146872641
APCR standard I mean

>>146872737
But the STB gets crutches which make the gun overall better, there's no point ignoring those since it doesn't have AP standard and ~240 pen or whatever. The only reason it has such shit gun handling is because there's a huge disparity in reload time between it and the other 390 guns, and the Type also reloads over half a second later then the 6.75 240 mediums ostensibly because it has 10 extra damage per shot
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>MT-25
Will this tank make me want to kill myself?
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>>146873003
>main issue
More like the only issue, next thing you know IS-6 players will be whining about low shell penetration
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>>146872950
+5 gold
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>>146873263
Typu is slightly more agile than an IS3 these days, thanks HD model
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>>146873465
>HD model
>mobility
What happened, you were baiting so well and then drop this shit ? Fucking weak
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>>146873324
>tfw not a WG shill
I'd do it all day for some gold tBh
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>>146873965
How about you kill yourself? HD almost always changes the stats of any tank, the 59 used to be very quick and turned better as well as having a more lithe armor profile and better p/w, now it's bulky as fuck.
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>Type 59 is bad
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>>146874239

>not even 1.5k average damage
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>>146874239
I kind of agree with the points raised on gun handling here, firing the gun is like lobbing potatoes. But at the same time making it a laser pointer wouldn't be good for balance, there's definitely a less shit inbetween
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I'm not even replying to that, that's some flat-earth levels of retardation if it ain't bait
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>>146875102
?
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Glad to see after all this time the Type-59 debate still rages.
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>>146875207
Previously posted HD model conspiracy, I'm certain it's just some retard farming (you)s
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>>146875321
it's just baddies trying to rationalize why they aren't doing well in a good pref MM tank
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>>146875369
Are you actually saying tank models and their statistics don't change? Just look at the IS6 you stupid fuck
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>>146875321
If I ever get one I'm going to abruptly join the "call it a terrible tank on internet forums and argue over it to the death" club. Just have to.
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>>146875437
>>146875497
Its crazy really, I've had mine forever and its always done well by me. Er, I uh, er, the aim time is teeeerrible though!
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>>146875782
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>>146875464

the is-6 has always been overpowered
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>>146875464
>even with all this 3rd party software to look up tank characteristics people still believe WG is stealth nerfing/buffing tanks
>never the less WG is using HD models to cover it up
Do you have any solid proof of that other than """""feels"""" or at least some kind of document from your doctor proving your disability ?
Also while we're on mental issues, do you also happen to believe in "impulse" ?
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>>146875102
>earth isn't flat
come on man, wake up. There are dozens of videos that prove it and all the ones that have supposedly "debunked it" have been debunked themselves
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>>146876270
That's not what I'm saying, the model change for the IS6 wasn't just aesthetic when it was made HD

>>146876301
What the fuck are you even talking about you delusional retard?
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>>146876423
yeah it changed the armor model, nothing about the mobility though
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>>146876423
tanks don't get heavier or lose engine power, the changes are in soft stats and the armor profile
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>>146876423
>delusional retard
says the person that believes HD models affect mobility
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>>146876270
Whoa whoa, don't let people know that, I don't want them nerfing my baby
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>>146876519
But it changed something, WG has always used the HD remodels as a way to fix/tweak the tanks, besides just making them look better

>>146876524
It's a shame we don't have preHD information for the Type

>>146876710
It does, at least in regards to things like terrain resistances
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>>146876843
>It does
Surely there's some kinda of way to prove it right ?
it "feels" doesn't count
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>>146876843
>at least in regards to things like terrain resistances
terrain resistance is a documented stat, it's not affected by the model at all and if they do change it it shows up in the patch notes or on one of the many wot blogs
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>>146877196
with hd the ground resistances were reduced by 20%
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>>146876843
>It's a shame we don't have preHD information for the Type
1.go to http://wot.djgappa.com/
2.download whatever version you want
3.use tank inspector too look up wanted stats
4.????????
5.put an end to your petrol huffing addiction
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>>146877332
>[citation needed]
you're brain capacity was reduced by 20%
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progamer bros ww@?
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Hows the M103 stock grind? Keep in my I managed the M46 Grind with only getting tracks and one 90mm.
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>>146877626
10%*
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>>146878409
It is godawful until you get the final gun, at which point its fairly good. That being said, you are a big glowing red kill button to artillery players.
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>>146878724
so they buffed it
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>>146878976
that is what I said...
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goyim, our bracket is a bit easier this time around

no deep purple teams to face
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Nazi TDs or Slav TDs?
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>>146879802
Pretty sure their recent WN8 calculations are completely fucked up. It still has me as 2.95k recent WN8.
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>>146880389
they are, pretty sure it's for everyone though
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>>146879802
C-team is going to get fucked again. Guess all the good teams came out of the last ride.
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>>146879968
Slav to the 704
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>>146880945
Who is C-team?
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>>146881884
t. E-team
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>>146881884
Pzmoes without Seeker to call. Norin's doing what he can, but these brackets aren't helping. We're going to change up our strat tonight.
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>>146882576
Goyim team has brought 3 lights and a heavy and tried to get early lights. You might want to consider not bringing bulldogs because most of the engagements last quite a while and take place across long range
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KV1 or KV1S?

I've finally given into the Russian bias. Which one allows me to exact Putin-tier amounts of bias and bully people better?
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>>146883167
Did you guys send the 3 lights into field and the heavy into city?
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85 or 100 for wz131?
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>>146883338
1S is almost as broken as the OI Exp. Moreso if you spam HEAT with the 122mm.
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>>146883450
No, the lights go where they need to. The heavy goes city, but since its an IS-2B it can be flexible enough to go where it needs. We brought an LTTB , 131 with the 85, and a Type 62 which is basically a 131 with the second 85, instead of the top one
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>>146877043
>Surely there's some kinda of way to prove it right ?

i've got the xml files going back to 6.5. it's unchanged and he's full of shit. no proof because i'm lazy

what HAS changed is that the very first physics patch increased the base resistance value for many terrains (this is what the ground resistance property on the tracks multiples to get actual friction). but that was ages ago and had absolutely fuck-all to do with the HD remodel years later.
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>>146883450
Nobody into field. It's important to make the enemy think you aren't interested in using it, and when you get into a sniping stalemate you are free to send a tank there to flank

North:
We sent 2 lights into the D5/D6 region to spot and shoot and 1 light to watch the 0 line/city

The heavy really reacted to what we saw them doing initially, if they were going into the city he'd take a defensive spot there and keep them lit and if he saw them playing through the field he'd just try and be useful and land a shot or two on them

South:
For this map we usually sent the light tanks into the field but not very deep. We'd take the E-F 5-6 region and get early shots while the heavy heads into the city then 1 light would take the 5-line ridge and another would poke out along the wall in e-5 to get shots while the other would play around with our heavy and try to attack from another angle
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>You have to get more than 6 kills and carry an entire team in a fv304 to master it

wew lad.
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>>146884136
>>146883450
when I say "wall in e5" I mean where the red dot here is, within the city wills on the right side of the gridpoint
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Which gun for the KV1S?
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>>146883829
>>146884136
>>146884412
thanks, it'll be good reference for future tourneys
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>>146883829
Why are you using a 62 when it's flat out worse?
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>>146884520
85 if you want to be economical, 122 if you have the funds to shoot mostly HEAT
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>>146884580
and this one
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>>146884580
pretty sure it's the only light tank baka has at that tier and he's good enough to make it work
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>>146884698
Because we dont have another 131/LTTB
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What is this "heavies cant camp" meme
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>>146884914
I have a 57 girlfriend
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>>146884698
>>146884961
Well, we do have another LTTB. But a good player in a 62 is better than a shitter in an LTTB
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>>146884520
derp or 85mm, depends on you which way to play you like more
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>>146878169
Really makes you think
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this game is so obviously rigged holy fuck
3 good teams in a row
3 bad teams in a row
3 good teams in a row
3 bad teams in a row
repeat forever
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>>146885361
this meme comes from normie-unicums in their meds cuz they feel they dont have enough meatshields
heavies are meant for camping behind cover and trading shots in their favour
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>>146885947
Your shitposting is off the charts, where did you study?
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>current year
>he still doesn't bring 2 repair kits to tournaments
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>>146886368
studying is for nerds Tbh
im a memeber of the kool kids klub
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>swamp
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>>146887449
Dolan should be gassed for not gassing you before he left.
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>>146887608
>the IS-3 with one shot of damage gets more xp than that T-62A
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>>146887608
That had less to do with the map and more to do with your team just sucking.
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>>146887449
Who taught you, who wears the memes?
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>>146887995
i was born in memes
molded by memes
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>>146888256
Wish a meme would strange you to death desu, no offence
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>>146888256
this guy is just on level 1 of memes. His only specialty is frequency
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+1 poster count
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>>146887838
chai sniping
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>>146888469
then how do i level up my meme skill
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>>146887090
>current year
>people play above tier 1 without fire extinguishers
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>>146889043
converting other skills into meme mastery, like anything else, costs gold. not worth it imo.
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>>146889043
fall for your own bait, pretend to fall for bait, get into arguments over things you don't believe, pretend to be someone pretending to be you, roleplaying, ironic suicide threats, doxxing yourself, reporting your own posts, advertising local businesses, creating in-depth theories and spamming them in threads
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>>146889443
>advertising for local business
>reporting your own posts
i get the other shit but what do these have to do with memes
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>>146889443
Wait, I'm retarded, ignore everything I said in this post. You're doing fine!
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>>146889838
those two are pretty much the epitome of shitposting

>reporting your own posts
basically means you made a post for the sole purpose of getting it deleted or temp banned, it has no other purpose. Also provides laughter.

think: replying to a "how old are you" post with 12 and reporting it

>advertising local businesses
no one will ever need this and it is completely off topic
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>>146889443
Who made this post?
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>>146890436
me
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>>146890436
me
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>>146890072
but if i report my posts nobody will see that ive reported them and if i make shitposts i want ppl to react to it
if the post gets deleted then only a few ppl will have seen or reacted to it
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>>146890616
i am the real samcyanide
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>>146889443
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went to olive garden earlier, got to say it was a really good time, I even got some free bread sticks
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>>146890436
t. poster
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>>146890783
this is the ironic version, original version is much better
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>>146890865
>going to chain restaurants when you could be going to a local family-owned place like Arrivederci
shiggy
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>>146891087
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>>146891234
>going to restaurants owned by white scum
>not supporting businesses run by poor syrian refugees
Tbh Emeks Kebap is the best
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>>146891234
I gotta say Rigatoni Alla Vodka is a fantastic dish, and $12.95 is not a high price to pay
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>>146891434
I prefer this one
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>>146891434
>Ohio
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>>146891840
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>>146892085
Oh Right thanks for reminding me
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>>146892085
I now have a boner for my state.
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>>146892639
ok duke
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>>146893573
Who?
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hi where is disscussing of tanks??????
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10614878

help
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>>146894096
greg you better get fucking optics for your t20
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>>146894180
I'm not greg and I don't play tanks without equipment. It's really more of a "which tank should I play" question
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>>146894257
calm down greg
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>>146894180
>optics
>t20
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>>146894369
t. greg

kys attention whore
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>>146894582
>greg attention whoring
no, it's people shitposting
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>>146894646
nice damage control greg
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>>146894646
t. B-team
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>>146894501
>not wanting to be able to spot what's shooting you
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>>146894872
we don't have a b team
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>>146894968
t. wargaming
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>it's a Jingles whoring out Rita rerun episode.
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>>146894968
t. C-team
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>>146895249
>2016
>Still watching Jingles
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>>146894954
>he lets enemies over 400 meters away have shots on him
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>>146895482
if you cannot see your foes in battle you shall perish. this is the true way of ninjitsu
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>>146895482
>implying range is the only factor
you get more frequent spotting checks if you have higher view range, so if you are in a poke fight you will be able to shoot and get back to cover before they even light you
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Why does JingleJangleJingles get so much hate around here? I don't rely on his advice, but I think the history he provides on tanks is cool and he seems like a cool guy. plus he gets to bang a tranny, so I envy him
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>>146895275
>>146895046
This meme has grown stale. I demand a new one
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>>146895275
Cipher is on EU, NA can't have a C-Team
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>>146895559
If your enemy cannot see you they will not be able to save their allies while you decimate them with your 2.5% increase in dpm given by vents. This is the true way of ninjitsu
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>>146895840
but would you want to be on the receiving end? you could run vents/optics/rammer on many tanks b/c <2.3s aimtime is fine
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>>146895795
Cipher is the f-team cause he always fails.
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>>146896038
>no vert stab
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>>146896038
Maybe. MAYBE. MAYBEEEE on scouts.

Why on gods earth would you want to do this on any other tank, though?
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>>146896321
Actually you have it completely backwards. Vert stab is necessary on any fast tank to limit the bloom. This would work for slow meds and heavies
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>>146896145
not all tanks can mount vstab family
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What are some beginner mistakes when driving tanks? Especially the first few 3-4 tiers?
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>>146896636
acting like tactics matter, that stuff is for the big boys at 5+
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>>146896451
I was gonna say slow meds and heavies rely on making their shots count since they're likely to be brawlan.
So a smaller aiming circle is very important
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>>146896742
But what if like, two goys got the same tank but are around a corner and KNOW the cunt is around the corner? What do?
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>>146896636
#1 newbie mistake is generally being overly aggressive and/or taking bad positions that expose you to too much fire. There's a time for aggressive moves, but not at the start when you have no idea how many enemy tanks you might be driving in to.
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>>146896636
Aggression is every newbie's mistake.
Unless you can be reasonably sure that you can deal more damage than you will take when being aggressive, it's probably not worth it.
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>>146896636
>don't rush
>use your autist teammates as cover
>try to bait your teammates into dying in the open so you can hide behind their carcasses
>sit in bushes all game, only fire when you can ONLY see the outline of enemy tank (be at least 15m(?) away from bush or you will lose 70% concealment)
>grind grind grind, baby
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>>146896831
activate nitro boosters and run in the 90s
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>>146896113
Savage
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>>146896831
Do you have support? Do they have support?

It doesn't matter because they'll probably push you either way
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>>146896831
Fall back to better cover, don't take the bait.
Let the enemy make the mistake or have him be useless in his cover waiting for you to pop out while you farm the rest of his team.
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>>146896946
nice
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wat expect
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>>146896451
Everything wants to limit exposure, vstab is best in slot on pretty much every tank that can run it. Pretty much everything in the game wants to run rammer/vstab/vents or optics depending on the tank. Lower tier tanks with shit view range can throw in binocs or GLD.
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>>146896897
>>146896930
>>146896936
>>146896946
>>146896986
>>146897063
Ay, thanks for the fast replies so far, guys.
Especially you, 936.
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>>146896113
Savage
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>>146897219
holes in you're mantlet
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>>146897219
one of, if not the. best T5 heavies around. Is very good for beginning players.
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>>146897219
Overwhelming relief that you finally have a tank that won't die immediately under fire. Then you get the 1S and have KV-1 that moves like a medium.
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>>146897219
hide your front, hide your turret when you're not loaded

you'll be king of the tomatoes
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>>146896113
Savage
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New RNG, Rolling Sturer edition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2tM0lf2NTw
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T95 with cola and gasoline is quite fun. You arrive late to the battle but you're tetraplegic wolverine.
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>>146899250
>T95 with cola and gasoline is quite fun. You arrive late to the battle but you're tetraplegic wolverine.

stopped reading there
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>Vickers Medium III
>bunched up against Tier 5
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>>146899316
t. Z-team
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>>146899316
>stopped reading there

stopped reading there
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>>146899472
we don't have any other teams besides A
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>>146897603
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>>146899623
t. A-team
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>>146899748
kys
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>>146899623
>trying to hide the secret H-team
fuck off, greg.
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>>146899872
Does the H stand for homo?
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>>146900232
I don't remember any boys in gup
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>>146900232
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>>146899872
Its h-team cause he has to play by himself.
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>>146900369
There were plenty
but not greg, he's not cute enough to be anime
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>>146900835
>>146900976
ok greg
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>>146901027
calm down greg
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>>146901027
>>146901064
t. greg
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it's another ace tanker in IS3 episode
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Is Oberst still taking Photoshop requests of spurdo?
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>>146901186
Not like his autistic neet ass has anything else to do.
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>>146901178
Wow Greg, great moves! Keep it up, proud of you!
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>>146901317
>neet
>unironically buys every premium in the game
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>>146901186
give what you want converted
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