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>Fates FAQ (please read before asking dumb questions)
http://pastebin.com/ivUbamyy

>Linkbin
http://pastebin.com/bufdd9wu

>/feg/ Castle Addresses
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ONUbYoZ68OjfXSLVCHF74XUol1ajWKSJvNqFx25PoE

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Tharja* a best
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Cutest family
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>>146251319
>not posting the fixed version
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Azura a shit
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Azura is shit
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>>146251448
You mean the "angry camillafag edit because the real one is shit" version?
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>>146251473
Posted last thread. Didn't realize a new one was up.

Uhh I'm on Chapter 19 and my game crashed after Ryoma attacked. Is it supposed to crash? The only thing I could think of strange happening is that I was using Warp to jump from both sides.
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Treasure buddies!
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>>146251590
massive sixhead
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>>146251590
>being a cuck
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maybe next game they will care about the scramble dlc

even the beach scramble was better than this crap
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>>146251662
I'm sorry your waifu didn't have a romantic convo this time.
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>>146251448
100x better actually
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If this is all the DLC we're getting then good lord did they fuck it up.
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>>146251695
I was talking about the pictures, not the convos dumbass
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I love Pieri and so do you!
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So did Camilla rape your mother and kill your father or something, OP?
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>>146251590
Oh, I forgot my request went through.
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>>146251235
The English version is okay and I liked the backstory they had going on but damn, that original is really heartwarming and cute. Why would they change it?
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I like Hana
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>>146251695
what's the point of a convo if my room already exists, at least in awakening there was no my room so the convos were the only thing you got
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>>146251830
part of the shitposting cycle. In a week someone new will be shitposted at.
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>>146251885
Either laziness or some stupid thing like "Rhajat shouldn't have to be forced to act like a girl" or they disliked that line in the S rank about Rhajat pointing out how it's creepy that a girl loves another girl.
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>>146251319
we need more Camilla OPs
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>>146251885
>Why would they change it?
Who knows? Not like they'll ever explain why.

>>146251973
>In a week someone new will be shitposted at.
Nah, it has been the same people for... a good while now. I doubt anything will change.

>>146251987
>Rhajat pointing out how it's creepy that a girl loves another girl.
Honestly that did kind of sound silly to me. Especially coming out of an anime trope-filled game like this.
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>>146251817
Peri is SHIT
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>>146252157
Niles does it too if I recall correctly
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>>146252157
Yeah, it's Camilla, Flora and Azura as the top 3, so unless something drastic happens I doubt that will change.
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>>146251885
I thought that the English version emphasizes way much more on her "bad" aspects (stalking). Also like TharjaAnon said, >>146251987 laziness plus the whole "forbidden love" thing might not be what they want. Though in my opinion it makes much more sense to include that, just like how Foleo is superior to Forrest because he's not a smug, showy twink.

Though Tharja also had the whole "force herself to act like a girl" in her support with Robin so I don't think that part bothered them.

>>146252157
Well she and Niles are the only gay options for each route. It makes sense that they'd be insecure about their faggotry.
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>>146251923
my room is a set of small phrases and only like 1/5 of them made it through localization. a scramble married convo is an actual and much longer conversation
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What's your least favorite thing about Camilla
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>>146252243
there's soleil....
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>>146252264
That she's not real
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>>146252264
her localized voice
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>>146251817
I love Pieri! It's tirelessly true!
>>146252169
What a funny place to take a nap.
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>>146252264
That she likes Silas more than me
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>>146252157
>it's creepy that a girl loves another girl
But it is forbidden love. Just like in my chinese cartoons.
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>>146252260
but what if you have the japanese version
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>>146251830
>Camilla will never rape you
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>>146251885
What's really weird too is that the backstory of Corrin/Rhajat is the same as the JP version, but in the American release it has Rhajat remembering Corrin saved her before and how she used to be a bubbly little girl, but in the JP version it's Corrin who reminds her of their past, since I guess falling off a cliff gave her amnesia.
>>146252243
>Though Tharja also had the whole "force herself to act like a girl" in her support with Robin so I don't think that part bothered them.
That's funny cause Rhajat has that little "I'm Rhajat, I like long walks through the graveyard" bit, and she actually liked the tea parties she went to, whereas Tharja really didn't like the whole normal thing.
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>>146252206
Yeah. Still think it's funny though.

>>146252243
>It makes sense that they'd be insecure about their faggotry.
Not really? It's not like this game really dives into issues like that. Hell it barely does worldbuilding at all.

>>146252362
Still only a handful of lines. Now with screen rubbing!
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>>146251843
Looks cute
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>>146252332
What's in that bag
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>>146252425
wouldn't you rather touch your waifu than talk to he though
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>>146251923
Have you not seen the marriage convos? They're quite long, especially the ones for the adults. They're also really good, better than any supports Corrin has by a wide margin, which worries me a bit.
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>>146252456
It was only fun once honestly.
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>>146252264
Localized!Camilla notwithstanding, I don't like that she's too emotional. The fact that she was willing to betray Garon in her first Birthright fight just because Kamui (who has deflected to the enemy's side) said Garon wanted to kill them. She is very much someone who acts according to her emotions, which is a pretty significant flaw.

She is my second favourite character (after Xander) but they both have pretty major flaws, which is why I like them so much I suppose.
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>>146252492
>They're also really good

Okay I wouldn't go that far.
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>>146252264
her flat ass
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>>146252518
>It was only fun once honestly.
I don't know about you guys but I fucking love the facerubbing, every time the option comes up I go straight to it.
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>>146252530
I like this anon.
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>>146252530
I don't think that was as big a deal, since Leo showed up before we could actually see what she'd do. But yeah she acts on emotion-based impulses a lot.

>>146252564
Compared to any of Corrin's supports they sure are.
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>>146251319
>>146252485
>>146252485
>>146252485
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Awakening did the scramble DLC better desu, both for the pictures and convos.
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>>146252421
Which is why I like her more than Tharja. I find that aspect of her very cute. Like her support with Kinu.

>>146252271
What do you mean?

>>146252425
If you're the only one who has an uncommon preference, I'm sure you'd feel a bit uneasy about it at times. Plus straight people outnumbers gays by a large margin, so of course Syalla and Zero would assume Kamui was straight and wouldn't like them back desu.
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These are pretty fun.
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>>146252802
>waifufags always steal m!kanna when they make these
you guys really will never get it over huh
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>>146252791
i don't think anyone will deny that, even if you hate awakening they really did good for their fanservice dlc, far better than fates at least

this one was kind of sub-par for a game like this but they probably spent most of their time for hiers of fate
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>>146252893
Why you gotta be like that?
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>>146252264
That her hair looks so much better than mine.
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Felicia is the cutest! Nobody could ever make me feel as happy as she does! She is truly perfect in every single way to me! I want her to always be happy and smiling! I could never ask for more! I love Felicia!
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>>146252791
Pictures yes, convos I dunno about.
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>>146252937
the truth hurts.
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>>146252793
God her Kinu and Mitama supports are fucking adorable. I also like her Shigure(I think it's his) support where she kind of whispers to herself that she had wanted to make another friend
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>>146252793
>If you're the only one who has an uncommon preference, I'm sure you'd feel a bit uneasy about it at times.
Considering the lack of worldbuilding. Who the hell knows. Again I just think it's odd for a heavily-rooted anime game like this to try something like that.
Also MaMU looks like a faggot no matter what you do with him. Honestly now.

>>146252667
It just started feeling like a chore really quickly.
I don't mind the cute shit from that whole system though, I hope the next game does something more with it. Just taking out the boring aspect.
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>>146253069
Maybe it's just me really liking Rhajats moans after S ranking her that keeps me coming back to it.
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Here is your Caeldori.

God damn, these are some bad genetics.
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Would one of these things with tracia on it work on a snes converter or a i beter off buying the more expensive retail release that im sure will work
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>>146253031
Well, it's all in good fun. No need to be such a downer.
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>>146252694
Had Leo not showed up, she would have probably joined you right there. She is very attached to Kamui and pretty much has a confirmed crush on them in the JP version.

She cries a lot when it comes to Kamui as well, as seen in their supports. She indeed acts a lot on emotion-based impulses, as seen with how much she freaked out about Kamui and Elise in Birthright.

Also I'm curious as to how her JP support with Flannel played out. Was it more or less the same sans the unnecessary part where Keaton acts passive-aggressively sexist?
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According to Caeldoris corn support, she was rejected twice before corn accepted her
I heard somewhere people who get rejected often get clingy when they get in a relationship
So, would Caeldori be a clingy kanpeki wife?
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>>146253220
Keaton doesn't act passive-aggressively sexist. What the hell are you talking about?

And yes, it was more or less the same. It's a shitty support all around and is done just for eugenics.
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>>146253172
Forgot pic
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>>146253229
Sure, why not? This place is headcanon general, might as well go all the way.
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>>146253140
Just gotta use your imagination m8.
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>>146253368
>headcanon
I was asking a question based of of facts found in-game
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>>146252530
>>146252694
>>146253220
>Birthright could have had Camilla join you had Leo not shown up
>Leo could have joined too with some convincing from Camilla
>Elise would have joined regardless
>Xander would take a while to be persuaded but would possibly crack
>could have gone full Revelation if it weren't for bad writing
>>146253293
Why not just emulate it?
>>146253408
If you close your eyes it's great
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>>146253293
>>146253172
you have better chances finding someone to bootleg the ROM into a cartridge online. You'll even get the (broken) English translation too.
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>>146253437
If it's not explicitly referenced in the game it's only an assumption. She's been rejected twice, yes, but there's no evidence that she's clingy or anything.

You can say she's clingy. It's not a big deal.
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>>146253059
Her scramble convo with Nyx is great too. Made me go d'awww.

>>146253069
Isn't the "b-but we're both girls/guys" an anime trope though?

Also I tried my best to make a decent-looking non-faggy Kamui. R8 me.
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>>146252791
Everyone knows awakening did dlc better in literally every way, the poll winner scramble was a joke this time.
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>>146253169

>Selena is the worst
>she's even worse than Setsuna

JUST
FUCK
MY
GENES
UP
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>>146253496
I want a real cart for my collection and i want the game in Japanse insead of the crap translation

>>146253475
Im trying to get a full fe collection and Also want fe5 to go along with the fe4 copy i aready own
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>>146253518
>with Nyx
Yeah, that one was one of the better ones, even if it did have the whole "lol Corrin" shit in it. A good amount of her scramble convos were pretty damn cute
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>28.Camilla
Once again proving that North America doesn't give a shit about Camilla.
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>>146253518
>Isn't the "b-but we're both girls/guys" an anime trope though?
Isn't it one of the more quirky ones though? Not like they ever imply that they have to hide it in fear of prosecution or some shit. Unless I'm forgetting something.

Still looks pretty bad.
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>>146253475
I would rather have Xander and Elise still die
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>Rhajat's unmarried ending has her possibly stalking Corrin
>but Camilla's stalking was removed
Did Treehouse just absolutely detest Camilla or something? I'd understand if it was a "no waifu for you stinky neckbeards" thing but Rhajat still exists and is pretty much unchanged compared to Camilla.
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>>146253747
Camilla isn't actually very popular in most FE communities, especially /reddit/.
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>>146253827
>something creepy and weird as fuck is removed and actually makes camilla look better
>they hated her!

Not even trying to defend memehouse on this one but what the fuck are you going on about.
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>>146253747
>Best Waifs: Caeldori 51 / Mitama 45 / Velouria 42
>Best Husbs: Shiro 38 / Hinata 34 / Shura 24 / Dwyer 23 / Siegbert 18
uhh
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>>146253827
Are those boobs
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>>146253169
All I'm seeing from this is Mozu stronk
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>>146253827
I don't think normal people find stalking/yanderes endearing so if anything they did good by removing it.
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>>146253169
Those stats on Spear Master Mozu!Dori aren't all that bad. She's as good as Oboro, though, not better and even then she still has Aptitude.

>>146253605
I wouldn't be so sure She's worse. She has better defense, if only slightly, and Strong Repository, which synergies well with a Guard Naginata.

>>146253747
>top 3 are Felicia, Oboro and Selena
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>>146253795
No big loss
>>146253827
Maybe cause Rhajat already has a precedent of creepy staking in English versions
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>>146253827
What was the original ending?
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>>146253747
>Caeldori is #1
Yes! There are people outside /feg/ with good taste!
Though, to be fair, everyone's waifu is good.
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>>146253919
>>146253946
That's my question, why was this being removed considered "good" whereas Rhajat's stalking gimmick remaining being seen as okay?

tldr, why the discrepancy? If stalking was seen as completely bad, Rhajat would've been changed as well. Furthermore, you'd think that girls stalking guys would be considered okay given the current climate surrounding games.
>>146253982
Camilla watches over the SI from the shadows. Pretty much similar to Rhajat's.
>>146253925
no, it's from a really shitty lewd of Mamui fucking Lilith
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>>146253747
wow this one of the worst lists I've ever seen
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Is Soleil better off as a Hero or as a Bow Knight?
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>>146253827
>>146253919
Here's the thing; if they liked a character, why would they change them so much? The most logical explanation is that if a character was given significant changes then that character was not particularly well-liked.
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>>146253271
According to Treehouse, he said "You need a strong man" and she was like "Fuck you" or something like that. Just like the whole Saizou/Azura thing with the scars.

Well at least he seems like a nice guy. I wouldn't give Camilla to him (Zero is better) though he can have Elfie or Mozume.

>>146253475
Then there would be no incentive to Jew out IK. Plus that isn't how countries at war act like....

>>146253717
Well the good thing about it is that Nyx assumed the love spell was for Kamui, but turns out it's for her. I was surprised Nyx didn't initially think she was a momcon though kek.

>>146253783
The JP support didn't mean it was a persecution thing. I mean it makes sense that straights would be find gays' preference strange, gross even perhaps. They just didn't think Kamui would swing that way and love them back. Japs aren't crazy about SJW shit like Westerners do.

Also dang it. I tried to make him look good. That was inspired by Clear/Kilma by the way.

Is there even any non-faggy small Mamui builds? Large Mamui looks like a retard to me so I never go for it.
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>>146253747
>Velouria is considered shit here
>but not on reddit
hmm
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>>146254081
No, I meant the exact ending
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>>146253169
she's lucky she has a pretty face.
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>>146254081
didn't NoA make Rhajat literally Tharja or something? I'm pretty sure I seen something about that
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>Caring about reddit

why
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>>146254239
She's pretty much a watered down version of Tharja regardless.
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>>146254196
/feg/ is contrarian
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>>146253747
Leldit hates Camilla though. They find her "problematic".

>>146253827
Well stalking isn't very "motherly". They wanted her to be more like a mother figure to Kamui. Though I think her solo NA ending was okay, I prefer my stuff unchanged desu.
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>>146254269
I honestly consider /reddit/ to be the lowest of the low regardless, just because of their stupid upvoting shit.
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>>146254161
Master Ninja. Bow Knight otherwise.
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>>146254190
I don't think anything that happens in Fates is how countries at war should act like


Also I'm pretty sure the love spell was supposed to be for Corrin, but Rhajat decided to use it on Nyx because she stopped her.

>>146254239
JP Rhajat was more of a very light Tharja, where NA Rhajat is just a sort of light Tharja.
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>>146254081
If that's basically just it then I think I prefer her localization ending honestly. But that's just me.

>>146254351
>They find her "problematic".
Really? Because every time I see her brought up in character discussions everyone was more surprised she wasn't just a pair of tits and actually had a decent story going for her. Same for Charlotte.
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If I'm going +Str -Lck Ninja for Conquest, should I go Dread Fighter after learning Dragon Fang until I can go Master Ninja to keep my Sword and train my Shuriken rank or should I just go Ninja after Draconic Curse and give myself Arms Scrolls?
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>>146253169
She isn't much different from Sophie, actually. Except, you know, for the fact she needs a parallel seal to get going.
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>>146254529
I don't really mind the change, I'm just confused that they'd change it. Also the mothering gimmick is fucking stupid, why would they do that? Very few people like being infantalized.
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>>146254432
I liked her as a Hero. What would make her as a bow knight that much better?
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>>146254529
I remember that too, back from when I occasionally lurked reddit for release info. I stopped paying attention to it much after that, but from what I gather it seems like they really really dislike her now. Seems like a basic shift of generalized opinion to me. It's happened here and it happens in other places.
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>>146254663
>shitty unfunny names
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>tfw laying in a bed made of elephant feet and lion fur sipping dolphin blood out of an ivory cup

How's your day so far fellows?
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>>146254450
In Birthright or Conquest it's at least fairly believable, though the whole muh honour thing is retarded. Plus chapter 17 Conquest will never not anger me.

I thought Nyx made a wrong assumption? Do you have the link to the JP convo?

>>146254529
No. They always praise her as a unit for obvious reasons, but it's always accompanied by "hate her outfit/personality".

>>146254541
That video though........ Doesn't it have the most views out of all of them?
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>>146254541
I'm lonely why won't she become real and comfort me
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>>146254736
>Being this much of a grump.
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>>146254190
>and she was like "Fuck you"
yeah, she cut him off in the original too but she comes off more strong in the localized version. I think it's mostly cause flannel is being tsundere and failing as usual but treehouse can't translate that so camilla's reaction suffers too.
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>>146254770
I have two links actually

http://pastebin.com/7XKuKPah
That's my shitty translation I did

http://fe14festivalofbondstranslations.tumblr.com/post/145780455618/hoshidan-festival-nyx-and-rhajat-parent-child

And there's another
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>>146254695
>>146254770
I'm still seeing the same general opinion of her there. Not sure what you two are on about.
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>>146254613
>Also the mothering gimmick is fucking stupid, why would they do that? Very few people like being infantalized.
My guess was just as a means to distance her from Corrin romantically. From that perspective all of the changes make sense. That said the whole 'initializing' thing isn't actually as overdone as it seems. She really only does it on a few occasions outside of her support, where the general idea is that she stops doing it.

Should be 'interesting' what Treehouse decides to do with her marriage convo. Her's is the only one I expect may be changed.
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>>146254986
I'm expecting the bathing thing with Kana to be removed entirely.

I'm also wondering how they'll handle Elise calling Charlotte pure. Pure-hearted maybe?
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>>146254552
I went Ninja straight after Dragon Fang on Lunatic Conquest and it wasn't that difficult. You do miss the power of the Yato early on for a few chapters (like Chapter 10, Yato enables you to solo the wave of berserkers on the left with fire orb support) but nothing that can't be handled otherwise.

If there's no one else to make Dread Fighter, that seems a good idea to go into after Dragon Fang. The tradeoff is that your skill growth might be hampered, I think it's 15% lower. Nonetheless, it should be a decent class to go into until you can promote into Master Ninja. By the way, if funds are tight, you don't have to use a master seal, just a heart seal back into Master Ninja when you're a level 21 Dread Fighter.
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>>146254695
The female fanbase hates Camilla's guts. Reddit and Serenes is really henpecked by its female audience.

Tharja also recieved that treatment in Serenes back in the day, where they equated Tharja giving runny noses to Frederick and Noire to traumatic life-scarring domestic abuse.
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>>146255061
>where they equated Tharja giving runny noses to Frederick and Noire to traumatic life-scarring domestic abuse.
Hey look at that, /feg/ thinks the same exact thing now.
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>>146254642
>Grey!! This is sudden but, what's more important, sweets or me?
>Huh? You.
>Yay!! So I win this one!?
>Ah yeah, that's right!!
cute.
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>"In her support with the Avatar, Camilla is shown to keep items in her bra (in the Japanese version, she kept directly in her breasts), specifically, a map."
Sounds painful.
There's a lot of poor wording on the wiki huh?
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>>146254986
>initializing
Infantilizing, fuck me.

>>146255052
Oh there's no doubt there. I dunno what it'd be replaced with though. Maybe something with flowers if we're lucky.
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>>146254613
>Also the mothering gimmick is fucking stupid
No, it's accurate from the Japanese version, actually. Camilla is very doting and motherly in the nip version. Problem was translation and execution, and her English Voice Actress is to blame.
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>>146255061
Are you sure? Camilla is beloved on tumblr and twitter. Reddit is Reddit, I'm not sure about serenes though.

This place is retarded with opinions swinging back and forth, so who knows here. Only popular characters get heavily shitposted, so there's that going for her.
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>>146255061
Again. Not really.
A lot of people generally like her.
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>>146255061
>The female fanbase
try SJWs. I swear the reason Charlotte isn't targeted is because these peoples can't get good at using her.
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>Can strip male Kana
>cant strip female Kana
Why is it OK on male but not on female
Also what happens when you use a raider weapon on f Kana?
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>>146255413
Kanna's locked into wearing a bath towel. You hit Kanna with a raider weapon and she's wearing a whole towel underneath.
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>>146255345
SJWs don't care about Camilla or Charlotte. They did, once, then they played the game and liked those two characters and subsequently shut up about them.

They were more interested in Soleil because of that idiotic tranny.
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>>146255105
kawaii
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>>146255413
As evidenced by Treehouse E3 stream, men are ok to sexualize, women aren't
>>146255457
Seriously? That's dumb
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>>146255523
>Soleil because of that idiotic tranny.
I can't believe we saw that shit unfold right before our eyes and shit actually affected the final game.
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Why do you people care so much about why others love or hate certain characters
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>>146255109

With all of the more egregious changes to complain about I have no idea why someone would grasp at straws with one like this.
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>>146255413
Probably because female Corrin players don't sexualise their son while many male Corrin players sexualise their daughter
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>>146255618
Thats sexist
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>>146255618
>Seriously? That's dumb
Not anymore retarded than anyone else wearing a towel under their armor. Or a bathing suit.
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>>146254663
Her stats are more geared towards it. She has more res than def, but puddles for hp, meaning she wants a class that accentuates her strengths instead of rounding out her weaknesses. Bow Knight and Master Ninja both accomplish this, by buffing up her res growth and letting her attack from range, protecting her from damage. And her great str is a nice bonus to the typical low damage done by the classes. And from personal experience, it just works better for her.
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>>146255109
Confession: I had done a number of page edits there, mostly adding supports for characters. I had touched up that Camilla page several times because someone who has a rather poor vocabulary kept editing it. I eventually just gave up on that and some others. Looks less detailed now than it was.
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>>146255109
>>146255848
God damn, I remember that one time we noticed some dude making completely unnecessarily long descriptions to pages, with the most flowery language imaginable. Shit was euphoria central basically.
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>>146255837
How do you cope with the low weapon rank?
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big sister hugs
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>>146255059
Yeah I'm more concerned with the Skl and maybe Spd and Res growths.

Having the Yato in your inventory will already gives extra stat bonuses without also giving you Katana Def and Res minuses. Who needs the Dread Scroll in Conquest though? I plan to make Mozu an Archer again. Dread Fighter gives her an easier start but she becomes less useful later on. Snipers are better.
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>>146255949
Both Bow Knights and Master Ninjas use Swords, so weapon rank is no problem. And, for the latter, her str is so high that with a few other boosts (her personal, Elbow Room), she was tearing apart enemies with a mere Bronze Knife. Low weapon rank isn't really an issue for her in those classes.
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>>146256014
>will never wake up to camilla every morning

why even live?
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>>146256167
Because she's not real you pathetic neckbeard
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>>146251590
She is cute.
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>>146256347
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>>146256167
I guess you should just kill yourself then.
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>>146255232
You mean black Camilla is beloved on tumblr.

>>146255523
What idiotic tranny? Is there a story here that I don't know about?
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Alvis fucks Sigurd as Deirdre watches!
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>>146256347
not a neckbeard
big sister wouldn't like that
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>>146256167
If I'm alive I can at least pretend she goes to bed with me
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>>146256436
>a day on the beach
>black
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>>146255625

A plethora of reasons but, boredom and over-attachment due to a lack of attention from female figures in general are the top reasons for the waifu flame wars I'd say
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Best family
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>>146256452
That's not how it goes, Eponine!
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>>146256436
brown=/=black
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>>146256374
Not really. Awful character, shit personality, bad supports. Design doesn't make up for it. Worst girl in Fates, even taking Rhajat into account.
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>>146256465
>Camilla will never help you shave and give you a haircut while pressing her tits against you
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>>146256528
>>146256957
Still that's not her skin colour.
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>>146256436
Blackwashing is disgusting
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>>146251904
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>>146257160
Dude people change up shit on characters all the time in fan art. It's not new.
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>>146251448
Of all the things to fix
>the frills + ribbons combo, so not Camilla
>the lack of lining and support for the boobs + the lack of consequential apparent nipples underneath the fabric
>the boobs
>the collar
>the lack of a neck
>the red lining
>the red thighs (fucking disgusting, both in 2D and irl)
>the shoes wouldn't be so bad if only they weren't the SAME COLOR AS THE THIGHTS
Why the teeth? It's really not what bothers me the most about this.
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>>146256618
More pls
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>>146257396
>the frills + ribbons combo, so not Camilla
what IS "Camilla-like" then?

>the lack of lining and support for the boobs
I'm more concerned about lack of shirt physics.

>the red thighs (fucking disgusting, both in 2D and irl)
fuck you

>the shoes wouldn't be so bad if only they weren't the SAME COLOR AS THE THIGHTS
he probably glossed over it since the screen wouldn't show her shoes anyways.

I can't believe all of these artwork was drawn by Yuusuke Kozaki. All of these DLC artwork are so off-model and poorly drawn.
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>>146257960
The ones for the male characters look alright. At least compared to this shit.
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>>146258473
Camilla's vampire look good, say, in comparison to Oboro, Nina or Camilla's beach one.
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>>146257960
You only need to look at her to know that. Sexy, structured, rigid clothing, also a bit of transparent silk for the sake of mystery and reminiding everyone she's royalty.
Not frilly stuff. That's for maids and women with petite chest/ass who need to buff their silhouette. And if anyone needn't buff any part of their anatomy to look good, that'd be Camilla. Not to mention frills are practically synonymous with innocence, which clashes horribly with Camilla's personality.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/4p81qo/rfireemblem_made_a_waifuhusbando_tier_list_fates/
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>>146258734
So a Corset and a semi-transparent cloak would be better, you suggest?
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>>146259020
Not an overly elaborate and girly one like the one you posted, but yes, a corset is a better choice.
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>>146259194
>only knows one fucking song(and doesn't even get a dance scene in the canon route)
Some singer
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>>146259194
Oh fuck I remember this. Poor Jakob.
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These Felicia stats I got going into Ch. 7 Conquest Lunatic is scary good.

A surge in DEF and SPD definitely helps.
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>>146259543

She's sadly just a healbot no matter what until you get the flame shuriken. Having your Kamui hulk out in the prologue is more important.
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>>146259543
if you have rating, giving her a Felicia's Tray really boosts her usability
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What's with the recent surge in Velouria hate? Nothing wrong with not liking a character but geez, these last couple of threads were venomous. Is this another waifu wars thing?
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>>146259543
I'm on this chapter Hard and I've been failing so many times. This isn't my first time playing or anything but damn I always take so many tries to complete it without letting anyone die. Playing it on a new copy so no MyCastle reward items either.

Does the surge in Def and Spd occur only once? I missed it because I was busy visiting castles. Also your Felicia has such a high level what the fuck.
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>>146259818
It's /feg/ culture to shit on Velouria. If you don't like it, leave.
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>>146259818
there is one retard trying to start wars and falseflagging
He's the one that spammed flora threads and broken links
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>>146259848
Personally I began getting good as soon as I learned to alternate between Attack and Guard stance for that chapter. RNG has to be on your side sometimes for Arthur and Effie.

There is no shame in using a Freeze staff use on the guard stancing faceless too.

>>146259818
0 idea. Maybe some Selkiefags salty that Velouria is a great unit and Selkie can barely keep herself together.
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>>146259818
Velouria is top tier waifu, I don't understand these wars
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>>146259818
Just the latest shitposting topic. I swear this place has to turn everything into a pissing match.
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>>146259818
Flora wasn't getting him as much (You)s so now the shitposter is moving onto slightly less stale targets
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>>146259848

>Also your Felicia has such a high level what the fuck.

I abused her heal staff until it ran out. She gets a new one at Chapter 6 anyways.

Her ability to actually tank hits with her DEF up really helps.

But that ain't the only thing surprising

>Azura got a surprising 5 DEF up
>Now currently has more DEF than my fucking Corrin
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>>146257960 I thought the art wasn't drawn by Kozaki but commissioned by different artists instead?
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so, do we have nicknames chapters in conquest? Does chapter 7, 8, 9 and 10 have nicknames?
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>>146260009
Oh god. Harold and Elise needs that RNG bless. I'm only on Hard and sometimes Elise even misses her Freezes. Never hard much problem with Elfie though. I once had Silas missing a 94% hit and almost got himself killed.

I always use the Freeze staff on the GS Faceless pair.
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>>146260459
In case this is your first time playing Fates, a big difference from Awakening is that Fates now uses "real" percentages, as opposed to fake ones.
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>>146260518
Fake ones? What do you mean?
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>>146260443
>Faceless Gangbang Woods
>Flora's Race for the Gold
>Metal Gear Water
>Break a Bitch
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I kinda wish there were an Azura beach brawl CG, although I cannot complain about the amount of official art there is of her.
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>>146260648
Long story short: Percentages above 60% or below 40% were about 10% more likely to hit or miss, respectively.
That's why 70~% were reliable, because in reality they were closer to being 80% and 90% never missed. Likewise, 20~% hits always missed because they were closer to 10%.

Here in fates prepare for Berserkers with 10% hit to all hit your Swordmaster's bitch boy ass into submission.
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>>146260850
>using Karin in Thracia.webm
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>>146260850

Fates doesn't use true hit or displayed hit, it uses its own wonky formula that's inbetween.
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Takumi makes me happy!
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>>146260850
I never tried hitting a swordmaster with a berserker. My fighters miss about half the time. when pitting them against anyone, so swordmasters... Oh well, can't hurt to try after I promote them.
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>>146261058
I am inclined to believe there is a reverse true-hit going on in which attacks with 10-20% are more likely to hit, and attacks with 80-90% miss.

I attacked, motherfucking Mememaster Shiro with everyone. Literally everyone in HoF 2 and none but one hit connected and nobody had less than 50%. Maybe Ophelia had 47%, but still
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Why must I choose only one husband, this is so hard...
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It's me or Birthright takes a dive right halfway through it, after recruiting Lobster and Scarlet?
I'm playing on Lunatic with no grinding, did the mistake of doing Kanna's paralogue though so some of my guys are a little beefier than they would have been, but I'm using some weaker units for supports and the difficulty still feels like it took a dive in difficulty and map design.
I'm not even using Ryoma or Takumi nor I plan on doing it.
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>>146260850
This image is incredibly accurate
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>>146261589

Birthright is literally worse than Gaiden.
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>>146261589
For a few maps it swarms you with enemies that aren't that strong, for some reason. Around chapter 17 IIRC it spikes up again, especially without Ryouma.
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>>146261421
I once did in a "fuck-it" move of desperation, and she critted having 40% crit rate and 20% hit rate.

That's how Charlotte became best girl for me.
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>>146261589
Only chapters I remember being laughably easy are Leo's chapter and the Faceless chapter
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>>146261589
Birthright's difficulty really mostly comes from three things

>am I going to grind?
>am I going to use Ryoma?
>am I going to use more than two fliers?

If none of these requirements are met it's still decently difficult, particularly on Lunatic.
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On Revelations, should I reclass Felicia to Strategist? Is making Sakura a witch a good idea? What about Elise? Do any of the two fare better as a DF?

Also, is archer the best class for Mozu? She was a rape train on my Conquest run, and she could take a beating better than Xander as a Sniper, although I was thinking of using Takumi and his son, Kanabean's lover, since I prefer them as characters.
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>>146262162
>decently difficult, particularly on Lunatic
more like a chore, enemies have way too high attack and come in way too big numbers later in the game.
All of Hoshido is collectively made of paper too.
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>caeldori:welcome home, robin. do you mind if I stay with you until you fall asleep?
what? what oes she plan on doing after I fall asleep?
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>>146262863
Sniff your hair
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>>146262863
yes, I named him robin. don't ask why
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>>146262543
>should I reclass Felicia to Strategist?
what for? Staffbotting yes, she welcomes the movement, Inspiration on top of Demoiselle and Rally Res. Attacking? No, Flame Shuriken Maid is better.

>Is making Sakura a witch a good idea?
it's better to make Felicia one, if you're gonna be that way

> What about Elise?
comes too late. By the time you get her you'd be getting Leo in conquest. Needless to say she comes at level 7 to boot. she's useful if you plan to promote her at level 10 and keep her a staffbot.

>two fare better as a DF?
I don't know about Sakura's magic power, but I can say Elise comes way too late for that.
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>>146262942
why?
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>>146260850
This is why dodgetanks need to have breakers out the ass alongside reverse weapons if they want to dodgetank. Hence why getting a Nohrian Blade>Sunrise Katana for your defensive blade purposes.

That's why many people felt the drop in Hana's usefulness as dodgetanking is unreliable in if/Fates. She would be an absolute monster in Awakening mechanics. She still is, however she's only good for player phase shenanigans now due to the dodgetank nerf. Same with most units that are like her in that dodgetanking is unreliable and they should be relegated to player phase shenanigans. Thankfully this game is oriented towards that anyway since the lower HP values and the plethora of powerful player phase only skills should make you do most of your offenses on Player phase alone if you wish to play it safe.
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>>146262987
dammit I told you not to ask
I didn't like corrin so I chose something familiar
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>>146263073
At least you don't make up headcanon names like I do.
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>Revelation endgame lowers your deployment slots by 2
t-that's okay I didn't want to use my whole team anyway..
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>>146263138
I have trouble filling out the slots in the first part anyway, since they spend a chunk of the game allowing you like ten people
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>>146262863
>Felicia in my room
>Welcome home! Can I get you something? ... Oh! You wanted me instead?
>click "Invite Ally" and call Kanpeki for some "bonding" time
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>>146263138
But you get all the deployable sluts.
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>>146263238
>>146262928
But seriously, what does she plan on doing after I fall asleep?
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>>146263407
Leaving.
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>>146263443
I wonder what she plans on leaving for...
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Should I get a Tharja daki? It'd only be $90 for the pillow and the case, and I'm a lonely bastard.
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>>146262543
I always reclass Felicia to strategist early game, to shore up her weak offense. I reclass her back to maid once I am able to get the Flame Shuriken. I prefer Priestess Sakura to take advantage of her decent mixed growths, and in Rev, she's the best candidate for your Shining Bow. Witch Elise is strong, but you probably already know that any caster reclassed to Witch is strong. Dark Falcon Elise is an interesting option and one I have considered. However, an important point here is that you will not be able to Warp to an ally, kill a target and get a Galeforce reset, because you will be considered to be in a pair. The other scenario is if you kill something on your own, get the reset, Warp and attack, which happens less frequently because you don't have the mobility of a Dark Falcon, and you wouldn't want to be in the Dark Falcon class because of its lower Magic cap. I would say a DF Elise is situational. Certainly could come in handy, but only if you're not intending on using other units who would appreciate the DF boost, like Leo.
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>>146263567
If you really are that much into her, and have the money to spend, then go for it.
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>>146257493
ok
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>>146263567
Only if you're sure no one susceptible to come to your place would ever have second thoughts about hanging with you after they see the daki.
If you don't have anybody, go for it.
If you have many of these, go for it, getting rid of fake friends will save you time and energy.
If you only have a few and you're not sure, I'd refrain from it.
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>>146257493
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>>146264034
>implying daki-owners don't hide their dakis when having people over
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>>146264240
>hiding something this big when friends are coming over
Kinda hard when you're living in a small ass NEET hutch. I suppose it could work in a bigger house though.
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>>146262994
Never forget the Ike/Mia support that made them both even more broken since they could march around with 90% of enemies pulling less than 10% hit and doing retard damage
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>>146264505
You would only have to hide the cover.
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I learned something new with this game. Apparently breeding Cousin and Mr."Totally obsessed with Femui to the point of having fantasies of genderbending Mamui if it's Mamui who exists instead of Femui" gives Shiggy Wyvern instead of Cavalier. Nice to know if you are seeking to put Rally Defense on him for the rallybot build as a Marriage to either Velouria/Rhajat/Mitama/Soleil/Nina would net him the remaining rallies.
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