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The Ruins of Mazzatun Edition.

Elder Thread: >>145709573

>Official news

Dark Brotherhood DLC is out!
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/dlc/darkbrotherhood
https://youtu.be/xrIdDh7_TBw [Embed]

One Tamriel announced:
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/12/matt-firors-message-from-be3

>Latest patch notes
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/patch-notes

>Sales and deals
http://www.dlgamer.us/download-the_elder_scrolls_online-pc_games-p-19435.html (authorized reseller)
http://www.kinguin.net/es/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=elder+scrolls+online (some anons have been using it without issues so far)

>Online lore portal and map
http://www.imperial-library.info/
http://uesp.net/wiki/Online:Online
http://esomap.uesp.net/

>UI addons for PC
http://esoui.com/addons.php

>Assorted links
http://teso-rp.com/
http://esoacademy.com/
http://eso-fashion.com/

>/tesog/ Guilds
[PC NA] message @clv for invite
[PC EU] message @the_kyrox for invite
[PS4 NA and EU] message PSN: kibukj. There is also an ESOG PSN community.

>We have a Discord open for every platform:
https://discord.gg/0zy535yopcQNGH6I

>Platform poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10281492
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>>146047095
Congratulation, you got what you deserved thinking you could best a daedric prince in his own realm.

/unstuck, log out. Log in, and while he's speaking run into the middle of the pit. He will just stand there for a few minutes, but after some time the animation will kick in and the fight will continue.
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>>146047306
About how long would you say it takes to kick in?
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>>146047817
Maybe 5-10 mins. I have no idea what or how it's triggered. I just walked around in the pit until he had enough.
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>that butt slap when making a guar mount sprint
10/10 worth every funbuck.
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>>146051189
Careful bump. Why are these threads so slow before the 1st 100 replies?
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>>146051223
We are all too busy playing the game
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There's always a party down at Rawl'Kha
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I love how you becomea vampire. Lamae Bal is just perfect.
>My beautiful abomination, how you shine in the dark :3
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FLYYYYYIN FLYYYYYYIN IN THE SKY
CLIFF RACER
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Don't you die on me
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>>146054297
what's all that about? fucking creepy...
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Hey first character lvl 10 here. What's the most effective way of levelling blacksmithing, it feel like it takes forever...
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>>146055778
Dismantle shit. Higher level stuff will give more Inspiration (crafting XP) so keep leveling and breaking down that trash.
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>>146055778
Daggerfall's workshop has a dozen blacksmith items to be stolen without no one noticing, fill your inventory by relogging and deconstruct them, you should launder them first if you can, so they give more xp (I think)
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servers going down?
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>>146056008
Thanks, I was getting tired of crafting toothpicks
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>>146056249
ye

you should check the official forums to see which days the server goes down
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>>146055778
Just dismantle stuff as you go about doing the other quest. Until you're level 50 in blacksmithin there's very little reason, if any, to sell instead of dismantle stuff you don't use.
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>>146056249
>log in for te first time today
>I won't be able to log in later and I have to get the riding lesson
>"Server is going down in one minute"
>PANIC
>tfw I managed to get it a couple seconds before it went down
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>finish updating after not playing for over a year
>server down :^)
Is Werewolf still rape mode or did they nerf it?
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>>146057120
WW is very effective for PVE and somewhat effective in PvP. It still rapes like madman but can be countered with fighters guild abilities or just nuking the cunt before he can hope to get a jump on you.
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What is the best way to get AP as a tank?
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>>146056249
Looks like it. The key to rip and tear is to buff you up like crazy before you decide to fuck shit up.
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> https://twitter.com/tesonline
> patch maintenance
What patch?
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when is it going to be over RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Have they posted an estimate for when servers come up again? Can't find one.
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>>146058480
>>146058496
Some guy in my guild said routine maint is usually like 2.5 hours.
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> All these faggots posting builds that's all legendary 160 cp sets.
I'm seriously considering making a youtube channel with builds that allows you to play all the dungeons as a pick-up player with blue, maybe purple, 150 cp gear with training as your only trait. Casuals are players as well.
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>>146058748
do it
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>>146058748
I did all normal dungeons as a healer with just dropped gear until I was v16 (before DB). I agree that you don't need much better gear for veteran dungeons either, just the right skills and knowing what you're doing.
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>come home from work
>time to play eso
>maintenance
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>>146059734
haha sissy
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>>146058748
completely possible.
could anyone do it? yes.
do i want to severely gimp myself to the tune of ~15k dps? no.
yes, casuals play this game too, but endgame build guides purposefully min/maxed do not cater to them.
if you're so inclined to run cp150 blue training items, watching videos on maximizing performance with that setup will not help.
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>Matt Firor confirmed that an Argonian Dungeon Pack and character customising barber shop would arrive in August, while the much-requested addition of player housing would be added in "the first quarter of next year".

>Firor says that Zenimax is aiming to release multiple, smaller DLC packs to cater to players who return to the game intermittently, creating something akin to 'episodes' for the game

ign.com/articles/2016/06/15/e3-2016-the-elder-scrolls-online-to-receive-new-dungeons-customisation-and-housing-dlc
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>>146061436
>smaller DLC packs
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>>146061436
If this means no more DLC with the size of Orsinium I'll lose my shit. It's the best zone in the whole game.
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Did the server go down on time tonight/today?
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>>146062415
"should" be back up in two hours
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>>146058748
Casuals can read the builds and use lower quality versions of those items. Skill and stat placement can be changed or casuals can do whatever the fuck they want and run regular vet dungeons with zero problems as long as their builds aren't fucked stat and skill wise.

If their attributes and skills are shit it is their fault t b h
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>>146061751

The only people this will upset are people who don't already pay for ESO+
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I tried to play and game told me it was an outdate client. So expect a patch which I don't know how big it'll be.
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>>146063549
>[JEWING INTENSIFIES]
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>there are people in this very thread who think that ESO is anywhere near jew status
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>>146064135
I am gonna run two months of eso plus and buy a dlc.

Which has the best content / price ratio?
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Are people actually sad about eso+? I think eso has the best payment model that any mmo has ever had as you don't HAVE to pay to play, but if you want more/different content then you will need to pay for it. The money really helps the devs keep the quality or make it better. If it was only buy to play the quality would drop
see: gw2

>>146065083
If you are gonna buy eso+, why don't you decide for yourself? But objectively orsinium has the most content.
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>UPDATING
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>God of Schemes: Fixed an issue with this quest that could result in your character not being lifted off the ground, or becoming stuck in Molag Bal’s hand.

It better fucking work
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>>146065791
I was just about to paste that here for stuckbro
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>>146065849
You're too slow

c'mon step it up
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>>146065310
I will try to play as much as possible but I am a casul scum and kinda scared that I might not manage to experience every dlc and miss out on some great stuff.

I'll start with orsinium then.
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So how often does the PC guild do shit together or is everyone too busy actually having a life and shit to do?
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>>146066086
it says updating but I can't see any numbers. how big is the update? if it is too long am gonna go for a swim.
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>>146066205
Mine is at 444mb at the moment
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>>146066205
481mb and change.
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So, with the vet rank removal, ALL the fucking remaining Cadwell's gold zones after Auridon are gonna be champ 160 for me (EP)? Are any fucking DLC zones higher? And for getting Rubedite I gotta to the DLC zones? This seriously takes out the motivation for doing all the remaining quests like I planned to do...
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>>146064135
It's getting there, bit by bit
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So for endgame gear crafting do you just make the basic version of what you want and then upgrade it?

>>146066912
Go play any F2P MMO and tell me ESO is bad by comparison.
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>>146066848
>This seriously takes out the motivation for doing all the remaining quests like I planned to do...
Why? For me it was the opposite, playing on an alt and doing gold directly feels way better now when everything is 160cp, meaning I'll still be levelling cp at a decent rate.
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>>146066848
>i need it all and i need it NOW
c'mon dude, enjoy the game, not the rewards. If you don't then by all means leave.
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>>146067636
Mate at least I wasn't asking for the fastest way to grind to 50 via mobs...
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>>146067636
>encouraging intrinsic rewards in an MMO
As an explorefag and a RPfag I feel sorry for numbersfags, they're never going to enjoy an MMO as much as I do.
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>>146065310
>implying subscription = better
No. Actually hiring competant devs and a writing team that knows what the fuck they're doing, when they're doing it and how they're doing it is why ESO manages to do things so well. An anon posted a Pax East video a few threads back where they explain their quest-writing process and it's pretty strikingly different from, say, the GW2 devs talking about how they do their stories and design content around it. There's a world of difference in how prepared and structured ZOS sounds compared to Anet.

There's another B2P game that I'd consider about on-level with ESO in terms of quality content/writing design and that's The Secret World. They put out really good stuff and do it fairly consistently. They also offer a sub but I doubt it brings them a huge amount of money because TSW feels like it has a fairly small, niche playerbase I imagine most MMO players bounce right off the game the moment they run into a quest where they actually have to do some legwork, think and maybe run a google search or two. and I'd bet GW2 earns more in microtransactions tha TSW does off subs or it's own cash shop - but GW2 still manages to put out much less content, with much lower quality because the dev team just isn't as focused as ZOS or Funcom.

tldr; B2P isn't a bad model (especially not B2P with a good sub plan where you feel like you're well rewarded for subbing like ESO+) and no amount of money is going to fix a dev team that has no drive or direction beyond occasionally popping out some cash-shop shinies or a mediocre event every two weeks.
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>>146061436
>character customising barber shop would arrive in August
WHY
HOW HARD IS IT TO ADD THIS
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>>146067843
TSW is fucking terrible as an MMO but the writing and world building is godly. They wasted it by not making it a single player RPG.
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In order to get fishing achievements, do all the trophy fish have to be caught by one character or is it account wide?
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Do we know when the next official crown sale will be?
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Double patch? Mine had finished, but then it needed to patch again. Odd.
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>>146069443
Same here.
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>>146067843
I don't say that sub=better, but it's a good way for devs to measure players interest in the game and that way encourages them to work harder. What i mostly am looking forwards to is that they would upgrade their servers as the ping is somewhat annoying but not game breaking, and being used to WoWs good netcode and even better server hardware doesn't help at all in that matter. But as long as the game encourages players to be stacked in one zone/city there will always be lag.
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>>146069218
Achievements are character-specific as are the rewards.
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>>146070409
that's retarded
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>>146067843
I fucking love TSW.
While I like TSW's writing better, I think the questing both in TSW and ESO are great.
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That stamblade in latest lefty video, no invis waaat!?
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>>146070409
The dye station colors granted for achievements appear to be account-wide though.
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Is this game worth the time?
I played Guild wars 2 which was boring af,and i played it literally since release,tried out other mmorpg games while playing it,and they are all shit compared to gw2.
But gw2 is boring af.
Did play black desert for 3 months,thats like longest time i spent in other mmorpg beside gw2.
So TESO is good?
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I have this issue with RPG's and especially MMO's where I can't decide which class I should stick to at first (I'll end up making tons of alts later regardless but don't want to start straight away) and it's happening again.

In TES games my favorite archtype has always been a sort of Nightblade. I like stealth and I like magic so that's what I went for. But what I find lacking are the big flashy spells I enjoy magic for, I'm still early in the game but I mostly feel like an Assassin and none of the skills in Siphon which are more caster oriented seem very interesting.

Does Nightblade get what I'm missing (with the appropriate build) later on or will I always just feel like an Assassin? Should I give Sorcerer a try instead?
How much does race choice matter if I know I'm going for a Magick based build, should I always go for Breton or Altmer for those racial passives?
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>>146073175
I got bored by BDO after a week or so. TESO has pretty good quets for an MMO, and the zones are pretty varied for the most part.
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My update borked, something in client got broken and had to run a repair scan. Now downloading 6gb's. Thank you ZoS you dicks.
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Gonna try this warden templar build I found on fattias. Fingers crossed it's fun.
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>>146073939
When you ran the game, it came up as an error?
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I've got insider information next TES will be set in the provinces of Elsweyr and Valenwood.
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>>146076763

But anon we already have Valenwood and Elswyer in ESO
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Morrowing
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>>146076763
Bethesda will fuck it up.
If it's Valenwood, they will fuck up the Green Pact.
If it's Elsweys, they will fuck up sixteen(17)different breeds of khajiit
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>>146061751
The content for the monthly subscription is still pretty immense. Keep your bait for fishing achievments.

>>146065083
In two months you can just complete them all and then decide. I'd say DB is just for shits and giggles, same goes for the Thieves guild. Not to fool you, I love them both but in terms of repeatable content I'd say Imperial City or Orsinium.

>>146066848
You know, when I played back in the days with veteran ranks I had this bitter taste in my mouth as if it was pointless to make more than one character as I hated to fucking grind. Then! I realized that you need jack shit to be able to enjoy the game. It still felt like a waste of time but now with VRs removed, I can play more than one character and make progress from which my account benefits. How cool is that. Tl;dr: 2.4 patch made the game a real thrill for me once again.

>>146073249
If you ain't min/maxing then the class doesn't really matter. It gives you a few nice bonuses but this is the Elder of Scrolls and we want our characters to be pretty and cool right? I have the same weakness as you in a way that I can't stop making alts and decide what to play. I made Dunmer DK in order to be able to play tank/stam dd as well as mag dd and I must say it's great. Also, the game is very skill-based so even if someone has better racial passives than you, you can outshit him. I say make both and while progressing towards cap you can decide which one you like more and have both maxed.
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>>146076591
Nah client crashed while I attempted at the first update. Not sure what happened but downloading away.
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>>146063549
The game gained popularity only becaue they dropped the forced subscription, if they make it mandatory the b2p version would become not more than a low quality demo and the game will die again.

They're just too greedy to keep it really b2p
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>>146057330
off heal
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>>146077867
mandatory sub and small dlc's are completely different things. This game will never have a "mandatory" sub otherwise it would already have it.
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>>146078347
As I said, they're making the experiencies differ a lot, it's starting to feel like a demo
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>>146078470
That's bullshit though. You can buy the main game, buy the DLCs, and never buy anything else and you're fine. The lack of the crafting bag does not equate to demo. Nothing like a demo. A demo would be something the size of the 1-2 introduction islands.
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>>146077867
>>146078347
They removed the mandatory sub for the console release. Otherwise console players would have to pay two subs. ESO and Xbox Live/PSN
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>>146078470

This is a good way to put it desu. I don't mind DB (really don't like TG though) but I hope they make other expansions morr in line with Orsinium and IC. Like it feels like things from DB and TG will remain in their respective expansions so they feel very segregated from the main game. I don't imagine TG or DB style quests ever turning up anywhere else in other expansions because I suppose they can't really.
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>>146078470
>gotta love these +180hour demos
I'm not even at 160cp yet and i've played that much OF THE BASE GAME CONTENT.
Do you even think before you post?
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>>146079272
Oh and add to that, i've only ever done 2 dungeon runs if you don't count public dungeons.
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>>146078470

>Wow I can't believe this game only has 300 hours of content without spending more money, fucking demos
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>>146079925
Yeah, and i can't belive THEY called Zenimax greedy.
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>>146067843
This is the video you're talking about. It's pretty cool how it's done. It's worth the watch for anyone having even the slightest interest in the process of how they put story-content in ESO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG-nQTtdbLs

There's another one regarding how they create the trials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWKDVLUnIuo
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>>146077647
Yeah I can see how it was an improvement for people with more than one cahracter, however I am not that kind of player.
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What skills should I be upgrading and using as a magplar?
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WHY DOES NOBODY PLAY MAGICKA SORCERER ANYMORE
STOP CASTING HURRICANE AROUND ME NIGGERS
SHREEEEEEEEE
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>>146082912
I went back to magicka sorc after I got a Maw of the Infernal set, since the Daedroth is affected by my pet bonuses. Bitches love Daedroths.
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>>146083164
wait you get to get a fucking Daedroth as a pet in this game?
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>>146083340
Yep. It's one of the "monster helmets", helmets skinned and crafted from defeated foes in veteran dungeons, that can drop. If you equip head and shoulders you have a 5% chance on light or heavy attack to summon a fire breathing daedroth for 15 seconds.
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>>146083779

Here's how it looks. There's other monster sets with other effects.
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I keep seeing you guys saying Orsinium is based. I just got off baby island into main world. Should I B line there since it scales or wait? Does it have neato rewards or anything?
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>>146084132
It's best played after the main story, mainly because it sort of takes place after the main story despite being playable before it.
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>should i...?
these kind of things are asked here very fcking frequently and it's starting to annoy me abit. Why don't you just play the game?
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>>146084132
>>146084132

Oh and since it's scaled it means the rewards will be scaled as well so you won't be able to get OP weapons just because you played Orsinium before anything else.
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>>146084459
Because I don't wanna waste my time if it's going to gimp me or makes sense to
do further down the line faggot story/gameplay wise and it's easier to ask someone here than dig through the shit forums. Plus
>>146084357
>>146084476
answer's were concise and helpful.
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>>146084783
>Because I don't wanna waste my time
stopped reading there
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Easiest way to caltrops?
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>>146085291
Throw em on the ground.
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Why are so many people in love with Razum Dar? I'm not saying he's not a good character, but I don't get why everybody is fanboying over him so much
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>>146079925
And over thousands of hours if you RP
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>>146085753
He's James Bond in a Khajiit body, pandering to girls. And girls love ESO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLqZXoaPwc8
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>>146085291
just play PvP
also why are caltrops so good anyway
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>>146085753
I don't follow any other platform about ESO except /tesog/ so I haven't witnessed any fanboying but I like Razum Dar because he does serious business but he has a charm and he managed to warm me up to khajit in general.

t. not a furry or a girl just a regular ole guy with his extreme sexual fetish being footjobs
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>>146087993
>also why are caltrops so good anyway

Huge AoE, relatively large snare, pretty powerful DoT.

In PvP they're just for spamming chokes and raking in AP from assists, in PvE though they provide a very nice, long duration DoT for stam builds, they also provide mass snares and initial aggro for stam tanks, which is really nice in add-heavy boss fights and trials.
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Is there any way to clean up old alts' addon settings? My settings files are getting huge.
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>>146085753
Furries.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKVqvAiT4c
Music in DB/GC is good.
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>ctrl+f dead
>0 of 0

Is this game dead? Playing Skyforge now and looking for another mmo
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>Rollgardina Pippilotta
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>>146095504
The game is very much alive.
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>Top 5 PvP Battles #40 - The Elder Scrolls Online
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wC7fKXX5Lo
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>>146095504

>one the only popular MMOs in existence
>is this game le dead xD
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>>146098995
It's a /v/ thing
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>>146098995
MMOs are dying, thankfully
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can I be a healer as a Breton nightblade?
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>>146100894
Yep, you have neat bonuses from your racial for your magicka and you really only need resto staff skill line to heal. I have a breton sorc and he heals just fine.
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>tfw finally replaced the outdated armor in PvP
feels good to have 3k more health and 300 more spell damage
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>>146100894

Yeah, just grab a resto staff. Nightblades also have Refreshing Path and Funnel Health to help out.
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Okay so I paid for one month eso plus membership but I don't want it to be recurring because maybe I'll get bored and not play next month. Everything went through fine and now I am an eso plus member. Can I cancel my subsription from account settings and still keep 30 days of eso plus + my 1500 crowns?
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>>146084459

Because I want to be efficient. "Fun" for me involves doing something well.
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>deleted char cause I thought I was moving to EU megaserver
>hear its a lot less populated than NA
>want to stay
>ask for character restoration
>they cant do it for some random error
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>>146103180
Yep, when I do my eso+, I get a month, then cancel right away.
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Are there any good guides to learning all the terminology/jargon for how to build an efficient trial running magicka sorc dps?

And what are all the gold, silver, and pledge terms I keep seeing pop up in zone chat that people are looking to run?
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>>146104120
Gold and silver pledges are undaunted daily dungeon quest types. When you hit level 45 you get a mail in your mailbox saying you attracted the undaunted elite or whatever and gives you an envelope when you open it quest starts and you go to your alliances capital and find the undaunted base. Two npcs give you one gold and one silver quest, gold quest gives gold key reward and same with silver. You use the keys on the loot chests nearby and get gear, motifs and stuff like that. You can do them once a day.
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Is there any point to stay in a campaign your side is going to lose? Like if I'm top 5 for emperor in my alliance but we're in 3rd place is that better than being like top 100 in a campaign where my side will win 1st place?
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>>146105090
It's not about the score, is it? It's not about winning, is it?
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>>146106371
I just mean for the final reward after the campaign ends, don't you get way better stuff if your side wins? I've only done 1 full campaign to the end and I got something like 10 various purple items and like 9k gold?
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>>146085753
He's your typical amicable rogue type and his voice actor is pretty good. He's just a nice character to run into and since he's always there it helps keep you invested both in the story and him because hey, it's your buddy Razum-Dar again. Obviously that's not a tactic that works if the character rubs you the wrong way, but most people seem to like him so it panned out.
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>>146100894

Remember that Funnel Health heal is based on the damage its does and it can heal a shitload. Mine ticks for more than double what Mutagen does. So be always spamming it to make sure the whole group has it ticking.
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>>146085753
He's a sexy man and a cute kitty in one, what's not to love? and when you RP with guys playing as rogues like way too often you appreciate him so much more because he's actually kind of good at it :P
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>>146111094
>Funnel Health
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>>146082373
all of them
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>>146104638
>>146104120

To clarify, gold quest always gives a silver key but if you do the additional challenge you get a gold key which everyone always does. And silver quest gives bronze key and silver key if you do the additional challenge. The silver quest challenge is basically nothing, you just have to kill some optional bosses or mobs in the dungeon that could otherwise be skipped. Gold challenge makes the last boss more difficult and can be annoying to do in some cases. But as long as your group isn't all hopelessly shit, you always do the challenge.
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>>146111427
Sometimes I wonder how many people go this because they thought
>Oh shit, Skyrim online!
And then immediately NOPE'd out because much like Skyrim, this game is FILLED with huge fucking spiders.

And this time you can't mod them into teddy bears.
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/tesog/, how do I make shit ton of money?
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>>146112948
stealing stuff
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>>146083164
do you know if atronachs are affected too?
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>>146113001
Yeah, I know. But I don't have that much time nowadays to steal so I'd like to work my way thru market somehow. I enjoy crafting so that's why I ask.
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how to best conquer 75% detriment to health regeneration in vamp stage 4?
I'm finding healing ward to be kinda insufficient, especially when it gets cast on an ally
should I replace it with regeneration? Grand healing? Or maybe sacrifice another slot for an additional heal?
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>>146112948
trading stuff
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>>146113423
15k in 45min in Rawl'kha inn with 140 fence interactions. Pick up greens or better only. Kill the two NPCs to run through the containers faster. It should take 30s to go through every container and then relog. Do it before you stop playing for the day so your bounty will be gone when you start playing the next day. Or you can pay the bounty at the fence to work toward the 100k bounty paid achievement.
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>no new posts for TWELVE minutes
fuck you stop being dead
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Is the stealth racial from Bosmers and Khajiits noticeable? I find that it's quite easy to be detected compared to regular TES games.
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>>146118884
Also that would mean a stamina build would be better but from the little I've played magick nightblade seems a lot more fun.
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>>146112948
If you are only interested in money, trading.
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>>146111738
>letting your phobias ruin your gaming
I'm scared to fucking death of deep water and large waves but I still played Assassin's Creed 4, those fucking pussies should man up.
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>>146118694
And you thought twelve minutes was bad.
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>>146117529
How do I kill the peoples without gaining bounty?
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>>146123060
If you've got DB then the Blade of Woe might help.
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is it worth it to level crafting on my alts? I use blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking and enchanting on my main
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>>146124994
I think maybe just Provisioning and Alchemy, since they have some passives that make food/potions last longer
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>>146118884
>>146119039

The stealthy passive is VERY VERY good for IC PvP, where the few meters detection radius makes the difference between life and death. This being because the sewers make the range at which you spot enemies very very short, and don't give you the luxury of going another direction. The damage is also brilliant in IC for ganking (which you probably wont end up doing much in cyro, as it doesn't really help and people don't go alone, but in IC is what everyone is trying to do).

As to stam v mag NBs, stam is meh-tier for PvE, unless you have VMA daggers/axes, it is extremely strong in PvP though (some would argue stam NB is the strongest PvP class entirely), especially when it comes to ganking. Mag NB is decent in PvP, not as bursty (though you can still kinda do the proxy det shittery), but with more sustain and group utility, in PvE mag NB is second only to mag DK in terms of DPS output at endgame, they are the second best healers after Temp and the second best tanks after DK. Mag NB is the PvE jack-of-all-trades.

If you're new though, remember that mag NB has an easier time leveling, as stam classes have limited sustain options, especially early on, so don't get discouraged if you get BTFOd by NPCs at low level if you do go stam.
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I'm level 16. I don't know if I want to play this anymore. I'm not having a big amount of fun. I'm even reading all the quest dialogue.
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Some anon posted a picture from an addon that summarized the battle afterwards; statistics on how much damage you did compared to the others. Anyone remember the name of it?
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>>146113207
Yes it is. They're affected but there's some differences in, say, how powerful the Daedric curse is. The text on the skill explains it if there's a diffrence.
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>>146131137
that's the problem, just skip the dialogue and run from activity to activity.
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>>146134123
Combat Metrics?
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>>146137465

Isn't FTC better?
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>>146118694
our resident tripfaggots ran away
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I don't understand, are the Imperials posessed by Molag Bal or what?
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>>146138532
No they're not.
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>>146139295
Why are they hostile then?
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>>146139541
Because the Alliances are trying to depose them and take their shit and make it their shit. So the new rule is "fuck anyone who isn't us." Just to be safe.
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>>146139541
Towards the soldiers from the factions invading Cyrodiil?
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Question for PvPfags:

I'm able to go to Cryodill (and presumably the Imperial City if I have the DLC?) at level 10, right? How bad of an idea is that? Does the scaling give me any chance of surviving an encounter with another, actually leveled player? Even if it's just "only won because I surprised him from stealth" or "just survived by running away."

Similarly, are there many other people running around at less than optimal levels? I kind like the idea of mid-level newbie slapfights but I figure they'd be rare this late into the game.
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>>146134123
i was using combat metrics
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While at the imperials, anyone know what's happening in the eastern Nibenay Basin and Blackwood?
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>>146139936
join the below 50 campaign
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>>146140485
How much PVP will I have to engage in to do the Dank Brotherhood stuff?
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>>146141639
Non. You can go directly to the gold coast after the tutorial.
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>>146141828
Oh cool, I thought Gold Coast was a PVP area.
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Is there any way to try this game out before i buy it?
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>>146141887
It's in a part of Cyrodiil that isn't featured in the whole Cyrodiil PvP area.

Emperor Trump built a wall, you see.
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>>146142078
But did he make the Khajiits pay for it?
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>>146140485
>haven't been to Cyrodiil yet
>they cut out that much of it and did nothing with it

Sheesh. Maybe it'll feature in that "argonian" DLC we're supposedly getting?
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>>146142216
No idea, but I'm hoping that we'll see more of Cyrodiil since Rich Lambert worked on Oblivion.
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>switch from magplar to stamplar
>suddenly taking triple the damage I did before

I'm...not sure why this is. Anything obvious I may be missing?
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>>146140485
I believe Leyawiin and Bravil had their own independent thing from the empire, Sai Sahan's journal mentions Varen fighting over Leyawiin before the events of the game.
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is anyone elses client fucking up like nothing is happening but you can still move
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Bump from a noob who bought the game on xbone and is waiting for it to finish downloading.
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Is clv on for invite?
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Are mag sorc dps builds even viable? Maybe I'm just shit at theorycrafting, but looking at the abilities for their class and destro staff I'm not really seeing where the major damage is supposed to be coming from.
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>>146113519
>>146119179
Yeah but how do you guys go about making profit? I am not that much of an enterpreneur myself so I'd appreciate some tips. I'm levelling provisioning and I have capped alchemy.

How do you find the cheapest mats on the market or force others to sell it cheap to you?
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>>146124213
Here we go, no, I don't. More mechanics behind a paywall, yeah!
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>>146151384
any one of us can invite
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Any good /vg/ guilds I could join?
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>>146153524
>More mechanics behind a paywall
Shit, I would love to see a company that gives out content for free!
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>>146153524
>More mechanics behind a paywall, yeah!
mechanic that is only needed in the quests for that dlc
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>>146153808
See ArenaNet and their lack of anything substantial for long periods.
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>>146153105
Master merchant addon. Get into high traffic trading guilds so you have an accurate price for goods. Search by recent so you see early postings that may be underpriced, go check all guild traders to pick up good deals. Buy low, sell high. Understand what goods are in high demand and flip quickly, such gold tempers and alch ingredients.

Or do crafting writs, they give pretty good gold.

If you're console it's way harder cause no master merchant. Same principle, more likely you'll find good deals because no one has master merchant but I'd imagine it's just hard.
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New PB

Nothing but purple training gear and the occasional group
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>>146154308
What is that addon bar called?
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>>146153524
>More mechanics behind a paywall
And the first was..?
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>>146154595
The one at the top or bottom?

wykkyd's toolbar for top

Advanced UI for bottom
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>>146151784
>I'm not really seeing where the major damage is supposed to be coming from.
no one knows.
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Yo clv, make a tabard for the guild mate

My suggestion is this, black background with black or white trim and white crest. I think these colours will suit most armours.

And here's what they would look like, but you can choose the crest.

I just want to rep lmao

you can check out the different types here
http://www.the-elder-scrolls-by-mysticals.com/
They're at the bottom
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>>146155631
>not green and purple
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>>146155893
/fa/ has changed me, monochromatic fits is all I wear

Raf Simons Rick Owens usually what I'm dressed in
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>>146112948
Buy mainly jewellery cheap and sell em high. That's what I do. That said I've made some really terrible decisions. Bought stuff from the Vicecanon and Viper pieces expecting them to sell for a shitton. Haven't sold anything.
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>>146155017
Are the Alchemist Surveys like the treasure maps or do they just show you a place that always has plentiful alchemy reagents?
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>>146157770
Derp, didn't mean to quote. Also I just found out the answer.
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>>146153105
Guild stores in good positions get the most customers, thus, you can sell at market prices there. Guild stores anywhere else get shit all and you'll be hard pressed to sell even popular items there except at considerably lower prices. Because of that or just ignorance, you can find stuff at prices well below what they could be sold for at better spots. But you have to scour a large part of Tamriel's guild stores every day looking for deals.

Some stuff you don't buy and sell as is, like raw mats. On average, one 200 stack of any raw mat gives one legendary improvement mat. So, you can calculate a price at which you will make a profit buying raw mats, refining them, selling the refined mat to vendors (because you'll get hardly any more selling it a guild store and it'll take ages to be sold) and selling your legendary mats onward. Remember to take into account the money you get from selling the refined mat which essentially lowers the price you pay for the raw mat.

Finally, you need to position your items in the guild store so they will be sold. If your items are not on the first page of search results for that item, they will sell slower or not at all. Items are placed on the results page based on their total price, not their unit price. Large stacks will be pushed further down, reducing the opportunities for them to be seen. You don't want to sell annoyingly small stacks of cheap items that are used in large quantities. Any item worth 1k+ can be sold in singles.
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> Be healer
> vICP
> Had some trouble with the first boss, the tank is one of those tanks who think he only has to taunt the main boss
> Get to the Ibomez.
> "Do everyone know this boss?"
> Everyone says yes
> Tank doesn't say anything but goes in
> Shortly after Ibomez the Flesh Sculptor throw me to the ground like a used-up hooker trapped in a GTA game, I watch in terror that I realize I've made a fatal mistake; I asked about boss mechanics instead of game mechanics. For all I know these people didn't understood the tutorial at the beginning of the game but just mashed keys randomly when they taught you about blocking, bashing, rolling and so on.
> Feel even more stupid when I realize that one of the damagedealer previously didn't understood why she took so much damage when she didn't bother blocking
> Realizes that the introduction of the block symbol is a stroke of genius from Zenimax since you easier can see who is retarded and not retarded.
> But that's all to late now. I watch as I get nailed to the ground trough my chest as the rest of my team tries to nuke down the boss without bothering bashing to interrupt his channelling.
> Killed
> Revided
> 3 flesh golems up and running
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>>146158106
tnx for you (you).
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>>146112948
Crafting materials always sell no matter the level. People will be buying them for levelling craft up or making level appropriate sets or to resell them. Alchemical herbs are always sure to sell, people run out of those fairly fast and there is always a demand for them.
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>>146159998
I really hate it when vICP is gold. Not because its hard, but because of the fucking people. At least vWGT isn't that bad
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what is endgame like on PS4/xbone?

how do you group and raid without area chat?
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>>146160639
Now I don't want to be the poor fella that runs around picking up the mats. I just want to press few buttons to make top-tier potions and poisons and sell them for a shit ton. Do you think this would work? I think it should.
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>>146144293
jabs doesn't heal you anymore, anon.
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>>146155631
>>146155893

i will look into this

though haven't i given you all every permission in the tickboxes? it's /tesog/'s guild, after all.
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>>146056520
You wat?
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>>146162142
You don't actually do any real work, do dungeons for clothing, blacksmithing and woodworking mats. You just deconstruct the weapons and armor at appropriate crafting stations and pick up runes and herbs when you are out there questing. Sometimes you'll drop rares and some of them extremely valuable. I sold bunch of gold runestones for 9k each, I had five of them.

But then again whatever floats your boat, you need in game money for buying gear, potions, quality glyphs, food and shit like that which you can make for yourself or buy them with the money you make selling mats or crafted goods of your choice.

As long as you put something on the market which is useful to people, people will buy it.
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>>146162924
doesn't sound like a quick way to make money
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Who can invite me to the american PC guild?
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>>146165109
message the_kyrox
>>146151384
you too if still needing the invite
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is this game any good?

it's dirt cheap right now.
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>>146165473
It's worth 10 bucks
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>>146165268
Says it's not found.
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>>146165557
add the @
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is this gonna be dead game soon?
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>>146165747
No, the game is like 2 years old and there are more players than when it was released.
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>>146162142
There is no quick way to make money with crafting. The quickest money-maker is trading, that is, buying cheap and selling for more. Even that requires going through guild stores every day.

Provisioning is piss easy to level, ingredients are dirt cheap, a 100-stack of food lasts long time and the provisioning hireling brings tons of ingredients every day. So the demand for food is small. Food sells slowly even at rock bottom prices.

Alchemy is more time consuming to level but not difficult either and pretty much everyone wants to have it leveled for the increased potion effect time passive. There's tons of different combinations for potions so people would rather craft their own so they exactly what they want instead of having to make do with what's being sold. So, again, potions don't sell fast and there's basically zero profit margin for buying ingredients and crafting them into potions.

Selling ingredients that you get from your hirelings or gather yourself or buy cheaply from going through every guild store is profitable. And you don't need crafting skill to do that except for the hireling.

Equipment crafting can be profitable but you don't make money through the guild store. You need to find people who want stuff crafted and craft it for them. Also, in order to make profit from buying raw mats and refining them you need to have the passives that increases the chances for mats gained from refining.
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>>146162142
> I just want to press few buttons to make top-tier potions and poisons and sell them for a shit ton. Do you think this would work? I think it should.
The closest you'll get to this is making is making psijic ambrosia. They cost a lot but they also cost a lot to produce.
> Do you think this would work? I think it should.
lel
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What's the average DPS a DPS should have before calling themselves a DPS?
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Skyrim DLC when? Is Falkreath part of the Cyrodiil or Skyrim at the moment? I would like to see Winterhold in its glory.
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>>146168879
What are you talking about. DPS is for people who don't play tank or healer.
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>>146169043
>Winterhold in its glory
All 10 houses of it
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>>146168879
10k = kys tier
20k = competent tier
30k = great tier
40k = god tier
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>>146169043
It's part of western Skyrim.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Orcs_of_Skyrim
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>>146169205
How is dps calculated?
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>>146160834
I mainly play as a sorc with 3 alts on the side but fuck me if I don't hate sorc pugs
> So you're a dps and you've a clannfear with you
> Yea m8
> Why?
> It can tank and it heals me
> So you're the tank or healer?
> No I'm the dps
> So you're a dps and you've a clannfear with you
> Yea m8
> Why?
> It can tank a bit and it heals me
> So you're the tank or healer?
> No I'm the dps
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>>146170000
Impressive digits anon.

DPS is calculated by addons like FTC which have inbuilt DPS trackers.
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>>146170614
I'm level 40 and my these are my numbers, am I fucked?
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>>146169456
I need more insight. Western Skyrim is not part of the Pact. Eastern skyrim is in civil war with Western Skyrim. Old holds (the pale, the rift, eastmarch and winterhold) are part of the pact. Ruler of eastern skyrim is our beloved Jorunn. What is the capital of Eastern Skyrim? Winterhold or Eastmarch? I would say Winterhold because Jorunn is high king candidate of Eastern Skyrim. The Reach is ruled by the reachmen(ruler unknown). Western Skyrim consists of Haafingar (Solitude is the capital of Western Skyrim), Winterhold&Falkreath holds and does Hjaalmarch exists? Is Snowhawk the major city of Hjaalmarch if it exists? And the ruler of Western Skyrim a descendant of Svartr of Solitude. Am I correct?
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>>146171174
Oh my, I meant Whiterun&Falkreath holds
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>>146170092
I fucking hate min/maxers in pugs. They see your race/class/weapon/skill combo and kick you even if you're doing better dps than the min/maxing dps guy.
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>>146168404
Fishing takes a long time. And the profit margin for buying perfect roe and selling the psijic ambrosia you craft is in only a few hundred gold per perfect roe.
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When exactly should I start looking for armor sets? As soon as I reach veteran? And how common are people with all traits researched/all crafting skills maxed?
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