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Champions and lovers edition.

Previous thread: >>145921613

>General info on Final Fantasy
The Wiki: finalfantasy.wikia.com
"What version should I play?" Information: http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>FFXV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGl_2gYrfM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fACw0LnW0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AptAyPIL88&index=1&list=PLbhHt7tfNMCC4F3KKvqf5vhK4S2ViQHbf [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVhwsUFaDE
http://youtu.be/cji-L0hu1Io

>FFRK
/ffg/'s RK FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/AwvGgpi3

>FF XII: The Zodiac Age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81NsStczT8E

>World Of FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNMey5SKKkc

>FF Explorers
http://pastebin.com/jNVTmu58
Discord room: https://discord.gg/0mpm2kbJPLFjZGX3

>FFIX released on PC & smartphones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oDeSJI0qJc

>FF XI
/ffg/ has a linkshell on Asura: "FearTheVoid"!
FFXI June Update: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/50760?_ga=1.151649081.1275968002.1463817636
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers

>FFXIV (3.3) on June 7th
Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPmeKA5-03M

>FF Brave Exvius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bhRtof5oOA
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2016/05/final-fantasy-brave-exvius-heads-west/

>Other game information
http://pastebin.com/cPCCGXNy
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heh
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This fight was ass because I had no fast way to kill the top one.
Then I abused mix and for some reason only Bartz was actually taking damage from the Firaga
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>>146008148
>Lightning sacrifice & berserk!
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>Eclair moves to France

Bravo, Toriyama
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>>146008272
And I forgot the image.
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About to jump into the FFTA hack, three questions.

>What's the name or link or something oh jesus

>What is the strongest job?

>What is the most useless one?

I never did finish FFTA's whole thing with the judges since it took a retarded amount of time to make different units.
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>>146008653
>About to jump in
>doesn't have a link
http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=11272.0

I've only unlocked the second tier of skills but strongest may be zealot or human duelist, at least early on.

I can't think of one that's legit garbo desu. I guess some are weaker with only the starting skills like professor tho.
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;_;7
I'm going to break the fuck outta this game when it comes time for the final battle now.
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>>146008461
And becomes a fashion model, so Toriyama can finally meet her.
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>>146009586
Kill Omega and Shinryu too.
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Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.

Except that performance in the playoffs earlier today, but everyone did a fuckload wrong in that so it gets a pass.
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15yo is legal where I live.
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>>146009969
Ever take advantage of that fact
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Did FF12 Anon ever finish the game?
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>>146009358
I'd say Doublehand!White Monks for strongest class physically early on.
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>>146011293
Does anyone else imagine a monk doing a sort of two-handed hammer punch? Like coming down on someone's head with your hands together?
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who here /dalmasca/?
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I have this weird urge to play FFXII IZJS all of a sudden.
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>>146011643
i'd dalma her sca if you know what i mean
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>>146011643
Ashe's hot!
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>>146011537
I imagine a double palm strike.
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>>146011898
I think you mean
Twin Palm Strike
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>>146011842
Why the fuck isn't that what she wears in game?
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Holy shit shatter mind with the assist.
This battle was fucking amazing goddamn.
Can you actually use totema btw? None of my moogle have JPs to check.
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>>146009969
Legal doesn't matter. As long as it's not illegal
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>>146012780
No, they fail if you try to use the command.
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>>146012625
It basically is, she just has this black corset thing which covers up her stomach.
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>>146012885
Aw, so it just misses? I mean they would break what the hack tries to do but I expected some gimmick instead.
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>>146011643
>worst waifu in a game filled with sub-par waifus
I'd underaged peasant poon before I'd touch that.
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>>146011537
I have always thought of this as a star trek skill. Dat hammer punchas the finishing move all the time
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>>146012780
>totema gets pommel crashed by how own tortoise
lmao
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>Bio Grenade throws three grenades
>deals two hits of damage

dena pls
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>Lava that chunks your health stupidly fast
>Room also has dragon encounters who love to use AoE
Exdeath's castle is fucking terribly designed.
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Clyde should have killed him. But I understand why he didn't.
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>>146013387

actually, it owns
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>Ruby Earring has auto-reflect
B E S T
E
S
T
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>>146013387
FFV is fully of poorly designed boss fights and dungeons. Its fans will never stop defending them though.
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>>146013459
That's why I said Shadow was a little bitch in his backstory but yeah i can see why too
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>>146013674
Atomos and those four crystals were fucking ass fights though Atomos was at least easy to cheese with sleep.
I like V so far, but there's a lot of asshole stuff in it.
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Was this the second to last one, and the one when you save Shadow in the Cave the last dream he has?
What a neat backstory. So Relm is his daughter. Neat.
I am also guessing this was Relm's mother?
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>>146013895
>I am also guessing this was Relm's mother?

possibly. there's nothing to go on.
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>>146013895
HINT HINT WHO DOES SHE LOOK LIKE HINT HINT WHO LOOKS GOOD IN A DRESS
>>146013674
SHUT UP.
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>>146013895
Pretty much. You'll notice the Memento Ring can be equipped by Shadow and Relm.
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>>146014123

is it me?
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>>146013895
So can Shadow do feaky deaky magic shit? Or was that the mother?
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>>146013674
I only hate the one dungeon where you have to split your party. That is ass
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Dangit.
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>>146014321
The fucking holy and flare dungeon? Are you a bitch or something? That was literally easy
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>>146014387
Not even good 4*
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>>146014321
It takes like 5 minutes to do though
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>>146014387
you got got
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>>146014493
Magic/physical one. Shit all over me
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this lucky draw pool looks pretty shit.

well, except for divine guardian but i've already got that one
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>>146014687

what. it's a cakewalk
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>>146014790
I mean if you don't already have SG it's pretty good just for that chance.
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>>146014173
And there are three possible Memento Rings - the one Relm starts with, the hidden one in Thamasa, and the one you can steal.
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>>146015042

it's a really low chance. i think i'll get better shit per myth from bsbfest
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>5 move 8 jump
>on a vertical map with a 54 hp nu mou camping at the top
>as a duelist
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>>146015230
PULL RIGHT NOW AND SHOW US THE RESULTS
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>>146015635

i'm at double the expected 0/11 rate so fuck you you furry little shit
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>>146015635
Not everyone needs the pain of being 0/33 you fucking shit
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>>146015042
>terra
>DG
>SG

I got DG so I'm bias. And good weapons for half price is good. I can do with random synergy
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>>146014316
Shadow can use ninja veils in RK, does that count?
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>>146015571
>charged him like an idiot
>duelist got destroyed by the nu mou's archer friend
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>>146015635
Posted this earlier. Finally got wall

I want some 4* like crystal helm but i keep ending up with cat claws. This is probably my seventh. Sell one almost every lucky draw
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>>146016487
Good job kupo!

See this could've been you!

>not pulling on a half price banner for chance of SG
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>>146016219
>Charging at anything in this hack
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So when you master an SSB, it says +10 to X stat. Does this mean the SSB itself gained a stat boost, the weapon gained a stat boost for that character, or the character itself gained the stat boost permanently? It isn't too clear, but I'm also retarded.
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>>146016904
Please refer to >>146014387 for another "this could have been you." Half off 0 is 0.
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>>146017064
The character permanently gained that stat bonus.
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Any advice for dealing with those Snipers in Magic Wood?
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>>146014984
He probably used melee on the magic side
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Why the fuck would Square hide plot-important scenes like this? You literally have to go ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF BEVELLE, a second time, for pretty much no good reason. There's no indication that there's anything down there either.

But no, in order to understand half of what the fuck is even going on in this game, you need to go to the bottom of Bevelle and see this one scene. I can imagine why people hated the plot of X-2 because half of it is fucking HIDDEN from anyone who didn't use a guide.
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>>146020486
Gotta sell them guide books somehow.
I'll tell you exactly how they planned to get you to buy the guide books. But you'll need to go to PlayOnline with the code FUCKYOU69 to find out all the juicy details about this one secret!
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>>146020486

i don't know if you've noticed, but literally the only thing about X-2 that isn't garbage is the dress sphere designs

on a completely unrelated note X-2 was toriyama's first director gig
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>>146020768
>Not liking X-2's combat.
Get out.
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>>146021053

yeah see that's why i tried it, faggots kept saying it had a good battle system

the inbred fucking retards
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>>146019635
First I tried to used their very low evasion to land safe fire veils and then damage magic since the strongest one doesn't counter those. It sort of worked, probably would but I fucked up in the end and their elementalist wrecked me.
Then I took an archer, used study prey and hasted her while the bangaa cast grace and the paladin used defense.
Apparently all those bonus stack, even if defense goes away by the next turn it pretty much meant invulnerability and then the lingering protect and grace were enough to keep her alive through the counters.

It's probably safer to just debuff them from afar though, since the other guys can fuck you up if they get close..
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>>146021143
It does though, it's the best atb and you can switch jobs on the fly
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>>146021505
It's literally prototype FF13 without the autobattle.
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>>146021505

it's garbage for idiots
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>>146021684
Way to prove you've never even played X-2.
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I DON'T CARE
IT COUNTS
FUCK YOU AND YOUR CAT GELATO
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>>146020486
Isn't this a mandatory scene? Like I'm pretty sure you need to see this scene to progress with the game
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post best siblings
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>>146022583
It's not. It happens after you complete the Besaid and Kilika Hotspots in Ch3, after the Djose Hotspot appears (which is the last mission of the chapter). There's nothing indicating that there's any reason for you to go to the bottom of Bevelle.
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>>146022938
Wow, so the scene where Shuyin transfers from Nooj to Baralai isn't even mandatory? I didn't realize that. Course I was following the strategy guide and it told me to go there so eh
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>>146020486
So ffx-2 is a bad game. Whats new
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>>146021684
It's nothing like 13, but thank you for playing.
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>>146023140
Yep, you can totally miss it. I guess people who miss it probably just assume that Baralai had Shuyin inside him the entire time.
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>>146023194

well, it's good to put out the occasional warning for anyone going through the back catalog
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>>146022901
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>>146023194
>>146023514
FFX-2 is a good game.
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>>146024087
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FFXIII is a big game.
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>>146024614
for you
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GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS!?
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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>>146024950
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>>146024950
NOW
I KNOW
THE WORLD OF REAL EMOTION IS SURROUNDING ME
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Real waifus have waifus.
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>>146024950
Most underrated FF villain finally appears.
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>>146023140
>the scene where Shuyin transfers from Nooj to Baralai
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>>146025658
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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>>146025824
Guess that means I pressed X enough times.

Seriously, this game was just made to sell guide books.

It's still a good game.
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>>146025984

no it's not
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>>146025824
Does Yuna always wear her gunner costume out of battle even if you have something else set on her default?

Like can you make her thief or something while she's in the overworld and in cutscenes?
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>>146026403
Nah, they always look like their default dresspheres (Gunner, Thief and Warrior) respectively except during certain cutscenes (like Yuna wearing Songstress in some).

Unrelated, I've always wondered... Just what the hell is up with this area down here? It doesn't lead anywhere and there's never anything here.
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>>146026403
Everyone is always in default costume outside of battle.

Gunner Yuna, Thief Rikku, Warrior Paine.

Except during certain story sequences where Yuna ends up in Mascot, everyone in LeBlanc uniforms, etc.
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>>146026908
>>146026893
bullshit desu. Would definitely play it again if I could choose
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>>146022901
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>>146027110
I've seen people talking about modding it in, but it's apparently currently impossible.
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>>146022901
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>>146022901
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>>146023682
Isn't there some thing about how they're not siblings by blood
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>>146027324
I don't know whether its her general form or her tight shirt, but something about her top half is really appealing
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>>146027324
Good to see they found something for Roxas to do.
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>>146027324
>that girls face
:3
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You farmed those Gigantaurs, right ffg?
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241st eternal reminder that Terra is best girl
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Would Lulu game with you?
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>>146028971
She'd probably sit and watch.
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good enough or keep going?
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>>146029236
>14 mythril

Keep going, kupo.

Why don't you do another 11x pull, kupo?
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>>146028971
tfw I could never get my gf to cosplay an FF character
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When is the BSB banner expected to be revealed?
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>>146029649
never ever
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>>146029649
Y'all need to settle down and get excited for Big Bridge instead.
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>>146030224
Why? Its just gonna be a bunch of ultimate+ bosses I can't beat again.
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>>146030456
There's tons of crazy orb shit going on with it, though.
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yfw squeebix launches FF Mobius for global at the same time of the Battle of the Big Bridge AND the Mobius event.
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Hey guys just to remind you - the nightmare summon dungeon is open
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so, currently my brave exvius team is:
>Cecil Lv66 5* with equipped with Lv13 Ifrit
>Rain Lv32 3*
>Cyan Lv25 4* equipped with Lv13 Siren
>Kain Lv25 3*
>Krille Lv15 4*

but people tells me that Laswell is pretty good in the long run, so I should be swapping someone for him?
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>>146032309
Laswell's better than Rain at the moment but when 6* comes out then Rain's better.
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I'll be on over at /pullingonluckybannertomorrownight/ if anyone needs me.
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>>146029509
What is wrong with you?

No seriously, is there some sort of aversion of your GF being someone else
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>>146032309
Laswell can wield the strongest weapon in the game currently, which you unlock by beating the white dragon
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>>146033389
>>146033575
>>146033687
>>146033859

don't be left out anons! you can do that too!
start doing your squats and one day you may be a hero too!
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>>146033952
Tried. No job openings. I don't want to be a shinra janitor.
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>>146034160
But even as a janitor you will be close to Turk qts who will be mirin your massive quads and shapely glutes.
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>>146033842
>Beating the white dragon

Is that how you ask Faris for a handjob?
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>still can't use Saint Cross
>still can't use Thief Raid
>still can't use Tornado Strike
>still can't use Dragon Fire Dive
but Cloud can? fuck this biased game
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>>146033842
I've trying to beat the thing via Cyan's Paralisis but every.single.time. I reach his last %30-%40 suddenly his Blade Bash begin to stop inflicting Paralisis and I get rekt.

and thanks to my job I've have very little timo to grind for xp/rank, currently I'm trying to get Biggs in the free gacha with no avail.

>>146034160
>[pic related]
If they where able to succed you can too!
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>>146030224
>tfw have a leveled Gil with his SSB on my main team already
I'm going to blare the shit out of that theme while working to make those ultimates my first to complete.
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>>146034654
>manlet dyel
>fatass neckbeard
No thanks.
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>>146033771
What's wrong with that? And what about that implies that he wants his girlfriend to be someone else? Simply dressing up as a character isn't synonymous with BEING that character.

I can wear my sister's clothes. Doesn't mean... doesn't mean I want to be... be her... not at all...
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>>146035057
>I can wear my sister's clothes. Doesn't mean... doesn't mean I want to be... be her... not at all...
Palom please.
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>>146034631
He literally can't. What are you talking about
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>>146034631
>>146035895
Only thing Cloud can use outta that is Tornado Strike if he record dives to get 5* Spellblade, which Lightning can, too.
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>>146034631
Lots of bias but lightning a shit

Give me a hero like cecil he needs a buff
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>>146027324
These two are the only thing I don't like about WoF, they just look so jarring next to all the chibis and doesn't help that they look like they should be in KH.
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>>146036495
Cecil is one of the best characters in the game, the heck you talking about anon. Just wait until his BSB is introduced during the fest, he becomes toppest of tier instantly with that thing
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>>146037454
>tfw already have Agrias' SSB and SB + rank 3 Saint Cross
>tfw really want Cecil BSB
I might just craft a second Saint Cross and get it to rank 3 if I get it
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>>146027324
>literally Roxas
>head bigger than her torso
I'm not a Nomura hater, but these character designs look seriously phoned in.
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>>146029509
I've never been able to get any of my boyfriends to cosplay an FF character either...
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>>146037579
I'd play around with it a bit first, if you do get it. Saint cross spam on agrias while cecil lifesiphon spams his BSB might be overkill already.
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>>146037454
Uh seems bad compared to gilg. What does he excell at?
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>>146038371
Gilgamesh is poop once you're done with reta meta
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>>146037861
I really love how he draws faces and I like his designs in general, but his proportions, oh god, they either are very alien-shaped (see KH1 Sora, Riku, Kairi, or the WoF siblings) or pretty accurate but with imposible-big haircuts.
so yeah, I can see your point.
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>>146038430
He's still a samurai able to use both knight and spellblade abilities and who has a soul break that does damage while giving Major Regen. He's a damn good melee fighter, although one that could be replaced depending on the soul breaks you get. He's still got a huge selection of very handy abilities that usually have to be spread along multiple characters, though - Look at the FF6 characters, to get the spread of abilities you get on Gilgamesh you'd have to take Cyan and Edgar.
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>>146039957
>146039957
Gilgamesh is a very very good jack of all trades, and he's incredibly useful in the "early game". Once people start amassing honed 5* abilities and more powerful SBs though his utility becomes a lot less useful.

With a SB weapon gilgamesh is still plenty useful, but he's not going to be taking a spot from someone that can do what he does plus has a SB.

For me gilg used to be in my party all the time. Now I only really use him in IX events/dungeons where my only good synergy weapons are fists that my usual team can't equip.
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>>146039957
This, I use him as my tank a lot of the time.
Draw Fire and the mage version are both really solid skills.

>>146040236
That really only puts him into a similar tiering as mages.
They're good, but falter when you get to the highest tiers of meta building.
Lightning will leave my party before Gil does.
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>>146039957
>>146040236
Fuck looking at hust SB. He has one of the greatest stats in the game. Then you look at abilities
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I started lightning returns, and while I don't want to bust out a guide are there any particularly good sidequests I should make sure not to miss?

Also do I have to wait til Midnight to get this last passcode number? I've found npcs who will tell me the other 3 codes even though I already found them but the 4th one is in the warrens and I haven't found anyone who says what it is
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Gilgamesh isn't bad for the reasons given by the posters but I found that even with his SSB he's an easily replaceable unit given adequate SBs and weapons on other chars.

I have his SSB and AoE dmg + hi regen doesn't cut it anymore for U+ level bosses. I'd rather take the (imo) objectively weaker skill set of Beatrix because Magic Blink and high single target dmg is way better than what Gil can offer.
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>>146041846
Sidequests only increase your stats and give you money. The more important stuff like stuff that deals with your schemeta (garbs, weapons, spells) is all acquired through chests/battle/shops. So when it comes to sidequests just focus on the stuff you can complete and if your stuck on one go focus on another (the game tells you as much early on).
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Is Lightning problematic for setting WILDLY unrealistic armpit standards?
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Agrias dancer 5 update when?
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What can Bards in RK do?

>lol sonic damage, later explained as magic non-elemental damage
>aoe Sleep that doesn't work most of the time
>Boostga, made obsolete by Shout
>Faithga, made obsolete by Magic Infusion
>two halves of a Wall, made obsolete by actual Walls

Basically, SBs do the Bard's job better.

When will this Bard discrimination end?
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>>146043665
They have an aoe heavy regen ability and an ability to reduce the entire party's cast time for 3 turns in JP now.
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>>146043665
>SBs do the bard's job better
that's more a testament to how strong the abilities tend to be though. Their regular abilities are the same effects you'd otherwise need SBs for. The idea is you can get bards that also have a good SB and they just bring tons of shit to the table.

When they get their 5* and 6* skill they get a little bit more useful though.
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Yesterday I killed Edea without sucking off this big guy.
Had to restart, good thing the boss fight is a joke.

Any names?
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>>146044569
whitenite
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>>146044569
White Privilege
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>>146044943
I'll roll with it.

>>146045447
That's too big, onii-chan.
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I'm sure she will be okay.
I'm sure of it.
Please.
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>>146045683
you abused of the Angelo Cannon isn't it?
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>>146045683
I hope you find early disc 3 as enjoyable as I did. Favorite part of the game.
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>>146046062

Ah, I'll look forward to it.
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>>146046498
>Squall I'm dying
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>>146046724
>Whatever...
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NO!
NO I FUCKING DON'T WANT TO CHECK THE COMMSPHERES, YOU PRETENTIOUS LITTLE TWAT!
BUT I HAVE TO CHECK THE COMMSPHERES! YOU'RE HOLDING ME BY THE BALLS! YOU KNOW I WANT 100% YOU FUCKING LITTLE SHITBAG!
SO SURE, LET'S CHECK THE FUCKING COMMSPHERES! LETS CHECK ALL OF THE FUCKING COMMSPHERES! EVERY LAST FUCKING ONE! BECAUSE FUCK MY LIFE!
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>>146046943
If you wanted 100% that bad why not just get it on a NG+, percentage carries over so you're basically guaranteed to get 100% on a second playthroygh
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>>146047221
Because I don't feel like playing through twice right now.

Also...

COME ON, GATHER ROUND EVERYONE! LET'S CHECK THE COMMSPHERES! LET'S CHECK THEM ALL TOGETHER! EVERY. LAST. FUCKING. ONE.
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>>146047345
Is it just me or does her neck look broken?
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Edea...
I have only one thing to ask...
Would you...
PLAY SOME MOTHER FUCKING CARD GAMES?
>Random rule
fffffuuuuuucccccckkkkk
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>>146043140
Absolutely. Lightning's armpit-pussy just can't be beaten.
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>>146047529
I was totally right about what I thought before. They didn't render the inside of his mouth.
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>>146043665
I get Protectga/Shellga off a bard instead of a second character with White Magic, which works for me.
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>>146047579
>he didn't do rule manipulation autism
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>>146047706
BEAT IT, IT'S THE FUZZ!
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>>146047762
While I do admit that the Bard defence buffs can stack with Protect and Shell, don't the Bard songs give only a small bonus?
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>>146047950
>our first female samurai
a little late, but better than never I guess

Post YRW these literal whos from XI end up being the new bias and introduce with god tier relics and SBs
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>>146048154
No, those buffs literally ARE Protectga and Shellga.

Only the Atk/Mag ones are direct stat buffs, and they're 15%, compared to Boosts 25%.
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>>146048276
First female Samurai blatantly should have been Paine, since her unique commands include Bushido.

But if you look slightly to the left of those two you'll see Onion Knight, which is the real new bias.
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>>146048154
>While I do admit that the Bard defence buffs can stack with Protect and Shell
lol
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Man this is some hate. Done like 50 dungeons at least and still haven't seen anything of IX. Look how every FF is here except IX. when do I get it?
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>>146048476
STOP FUCKING USING THIS VIEW AND SWITCH TO THE BRANCHING ONE.

The third fucking time we tell you.

Then you would fucking know where FFIX is, too.
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>>146048476
The first IX dungeon is a difficulty 43.

>>146048539
>Being autistic over what view someone uses
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>>146015635
Not pulling. I got wall last banner so you can shove your pearl beads up your ass.
Thank you for the wall, really. Please give more relics.
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>>146048598
If using the view which blatantly gives more information would remove the need for his question, yes.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>146048603
I'll give you more relics if you pull on this lucky banner, kupo!
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This cunt's got some attitude.

Also, it's 4:23 AM, I should really stop playing... but I'm enjoying this too much.
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Flat!
On both sides!
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>>146048292
>>146048375
what

That is stupid. Now I'm glad I shattered that free Enveloping Etude.
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>>146048709
It really doesn't.
I know you probably have all the core dungeons finished, but try to remember there are a fucking ton of them and a series could pop in for one, maybe two dungeons and then vanish for like 30 dungeons.
Hell, I'm barely halfway through the core dungeons myself, but that's a mix of me working on dailies, events, and elites more than the base core and I feel like I've done a billion of the fucking things.

>>146048746
This is why I never try to 100% games.
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>>146048746
Did ya forget to sleep in the Celsius that chapter or something?

To be honest when I started playing the Remaster I didn't run around and talk to moogle-costumed yuna on the docks right at the start, you know, where its actively out of the way, you gained control 20 seconds ago, and there is an endless stream of enemies running onto the screen that force a fight when they bump into you before you ever got access to Dress Spheres, healing, shops, or really anything of the game, since it started 20 seconds ago.

No idea why I didn't feel like carefully exploring everything under those circumstances.

But from then on I was like "Fuck it, 75% ending will be good enough".
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>>146048840

Literally a man's body.
How can people even be attracted to this thing?
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>>146048840
Lightning has a boy's body!
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>>146048746
I hope you've created a new save file every time you save. That's what I do with this game.
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>>146048935
I made sure to do all of that. I followed this guide to the fucking letter. And I don't care so much about the ending as I care about the achievement for getting 100%...
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>>146048920
But that view even shows him if it pops in for like 2 dungeons and goes away again, and when it comes back, and if theres a character or MC unlock coming up before he has the dungeon in question unlocked...
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>>146048840
I'd be fine with her being flat if she had some muscle tone. As is, Toriyama gave us a flat stick.
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>>146049040
I FUCKING GOT IT!
I FIGURED OUT WHAT I WAS MISSING!
I hadn't watched all of the Crimson Spheres I have yet. I watched them and now I have 63%!
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>>146048539
The branch view is useful but it shouldn't be your main view, because how are you gonna hear those world map themes otherwise? Just peek at the branch view so you can plan ahead, then switch back.
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>>146049142
Oh yeah, that was my second guess. You know the spheres it automatically makes you watch when you get them? You need to rewatch them, every time.
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>>146048840
>People actually like this character
I seriously do not understand.

>>146049178
>Game forces you to watch something
>You then have to go watch them again for them to count
Truly amazing game design.
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>>146049246
The millions of tiny little shit things you can miss in that game forever poisoned my ability to play LR, simply because I could not trust them with a time limit and missable shit ever again.
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>>146049338
The time limit is so lenient it might as well not even exist and there's like one or two sidequests you can actually fuck up in LR.
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>>146049338
I did everything on my first playthrough. Was far less frustrating that trying to get 100% in X-2.
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>simply because I could not trust them with a time limit and missable shit ever again.
you never played Majora's Mask right?
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>>146049393
Yeah, the time limit is barely there. I spent the last three or four days sleeping simply because I had nothing to do.
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>>146049506
I finished everything except that one quest where you have to return the next day at noon and the alternate conclusion to the diary quest, killed almost every Last One and still had to spend like 6 days doing nothing but sleeping at the inn to pass the time.
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>>146048539
sorry m8 no need to be a hater though I just didn't see you say it before I'll give it a go I see now

>>146048598
I'm gettin closer I see now but its still a bit, fuck because it comes with vivi too and I want a black mage
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>>146049338
I completed almost every single side quest in the game. I had 4 whole days to spare.
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>>146049423
Without a guide?
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>>146049338
Man, I really need to finish my blind 4jf so I can go back to finishing XIII so I can do XIII-2 so I can see just how bad of a clusterfuck LR actually is.

>>146049480
>Missable
>MM
Anon....
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>>146049720
Not that guy but the only thing I used a guide for was looking up the locations of the last few quests and a couple of items. It's completely obvious the moment someone cries about LR's time limit that they've never even touched the game.
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hey guys I'm really tempted to spent my Lapis in 3 draws, yes or no?
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>>146049874
don't
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>>146049745
>so I can see just how bad of a clusterfuck LR actually is
LR is better than its predecessors which were both also good games.
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>>146049720
Mostly. Generally used a guide to look up monster locations and drops instead.
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>>146049863
Well yes, I said as much. Based on my experience with X-2 I mistrusted them tot much to consider a time limit not a red flag.
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>>146049941
This. It's quite good.
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>>146049941
>>146050041
So to a non-Lightningfag LR is a decent game and not as big a horrible clusterfuck as the two previous ones, I figure.
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>>146050123
I'm not a Lightningfag and I think all the XIII games are good. Fuck off you presumptuous retard.
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>>146050016
LR is way more forgiving if you have any idea what you're doing. No "press X here for 100% completion" bullshit.

>>146050123
To me it's a decent game, though inferior in all aspects to XIII-2.
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>>146050161
>I think all the XIII games are good

I don't even need to say anything anymore to discredit your opinion.
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>>146049941
Eh? I hear LR has good combat, but I'm not looking forward to it as someone that hates Lightning.
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>>146050232
>I disagree with you so your opinion is completely invalid
go eat a pile of dicks
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>>146050123
I fucking hate lightning but I have to admit the XIII trilogy is good.
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BSB TRANSLATED BANNER FUCKING WHEN???!!
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Personally, the only time I was really having fun in XIII-2 was in the paradox 1v1 fite me faggit battle with Caius.
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>>146050280
The first and third games would have been better with Serah as the protagonist.
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>>146050371
Which one was that? The dream world?
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>>146050552
Serah is a crystal for the first game though
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>>146050350
NEVER EVER
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>>146050280
This is the sign for me that it might be time to just give up on gaming and let the "new generation" with opinions like this have it and sever, rather than trying to maintain a poisonous relationship with it.

Not once have I legitimately seen someone explain why the 13 series is good, what about it could be considered good, in a way where I went "okay, maybe not me, but I could see how people could find this good". Every single time I could only be appaled at how anyone could actually think it was good. So if this is your gaming, if this is your future, I might just have to get out, because these ideas that 13 was good have become literally impossible for me to empathize with or rationalize in any way.
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>>146050559
err.

I can't recall Noel's as well, but that fight felt more like a huge damage sponge that had SOME dangers.

But Serah's was BEAST, almost died several times.
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I personally don't care about Eclair, XIII was a horrible game. period, XIII-2 fixed a lot of things and was actually pretty good, in LR they ried t fix stuff that wasn't broken, and, in my honest opinion, made me feel like if I was playing Lords of Shadows 2 meets Dirge of Cerberus: Doll Dressing edition... and up today I'm not totally sure if I like it or not.
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