Dueling Network General #2208 - Brain problems Edition
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shot in the dark I doubt it'd happen. But someone showed a flip princess deck 2 days ago or so I'd love to play the deck at least needed techs so I can build it.
>>145761292
>Having HFD around is basically just strictly enforcing that you can't play a deck with more than like 4 traps. Traps are already bad, this is just taking a piss on their corpse.
Literally WHAT the fuck are you talking about? Heavy trap decks have never been that good unless the meta was inherently slow. Not only that but trap focused decks are still being played retard, did you miss the Cupidity threads where we proved this or did you also ignore that AND the fact SMRIII plays a high number of traps in OCG as well?
>Card Destruction adds nothing of value to the game, it's just another "lol i win" card.
Literally no other deck aside from Infernoids plays Card Destruction so you're way off
>Cyber Stein IS broken in any deck that doesn't have to normal summon him or leave him on the field at all. Why do you think he's a staple 3-of in Metalphosis? He's one of the main reasons why that deck is even good.
There's a lot to what's good about Metalphosis, a single 3 off is being the ONLY reason as to why they're being so good is not only fallacious but quite frankly idiotic
Please play the actual game
>>145761689
>please play the actual game
I do. But you apparently play the OCG.
>>145761920
>doesn't know that OCG stands for OFFICIAL CARD GAME meaning that Japs are the ones playing the actual game while gaijins get hand me down bullshit
>>145761689
>Literally no other deck aside from Infernoids plays Card Destruction so you're way off
do you not realise the bullshit we'd have to put up with from dark worlds, fabled, shaddolls, BA, dark-sync, zombie, and other floater decks if car destruction was legal? i really wish it was
>>145761986
Yeah the rest of the world only trades the cards.
New gemini archtype still not on ygopro.
Xth for liquid hydrogen
Here for petdeks, wanting to fug Lunalights and minute long webms being a hassle to shrink so I can post them
>>145762018
>dark worlds
Shitty deck that got powercreeped a long time ago
>fabled
EXTREMELY shitty deck that has been power creeped, holy shit
>shaddolls
A dead deck that barely sees play anymore
>BA
A deck that doesn't need to play it
>dark-sync
Would rather play Cupidity most of the time, but rarely tops regardless
>zombie
Another deck that rarely tops
You sure are freaking out over a LIMITED card that sees fringe play most of the time. You must have been touched real hard. Or maybe you're just another petdeckfag I can never tell with you guys
>its a /dng/ doesn't like it when other people play with cards before they come out thread and tells others they shouldn't play episode
So is Cupidity actually worth running in Tele-DAD heroes or whatever its called these days?
I mean don't get me wrong, getting it off Diamond Dude is great and all but if you just draw into it and use it you're probably banishing some Malicious'.
>>145762474
Your deck is your only resource of cards. You lose Malicious and its surrender time.
Buster Blader is cool! COOL!
>>145762548
>>145762474
You can play Cupidity in just about anything you just have to assess your risks and search out your combo pieces first before you just activate it willy nilly, something that /dng/ refuses to grasp for whatever reason
>>145762548
>Your deck is your only resource of cards
THAT IS EVERY CARD GAME
WHERE ELSE DO YOU GET THE CARDS
ARE YOU GOING TO START DRAWING THEM NOW LIKE THAT SHITTY BLACK ROSE WITH THE WRONG COLORS
>>145762757
Hey fuck you, Trip. I'm proud of my Black Rose.
>>145762757
you get them in booster packs too
>testing out blue eyes
>opp is using dark sanctuary stun shit
>opp immediately starts shit talking because he topped skill drain
>white dragon huhuhuh
>what the fuck your mom bitch
>cry white dragon bitch
>watch him talk to himself and turn off wifi before the timer ends
I feel transgressed and violated.
>>145762757
I thought you drew cards from your deck every turn anyways?????
Do we know what monster this is?
>>145758820
>>145762853
Why didn't you draw Chaos MAX
>run anti-meta
>summon Fossil Dyna
>set 2x mirror force + 1x Trap Hole of Spikes
>he summons a monster and desperately tries to attack
>activate Spikes
>my turn summon Banisher of the Radiance
>he calls me a fag for running anti-meta and quits
Sometimes I love YGO
>>145762347
i knew youd do this lol, pick apart each deck and call them non-competitive, you backpedaling retard.
you said:
>Literally no other deck aside from Infernoids plays Card Destruction so you're way off
and i gave you other decks that do, no-matter their competitiveness.
>>145762474
Cupidity is best used in decks like D/D/D where when it goes off, you mainly just playing the extra deck and graveyard to make a rather unbreakable field.
If your doesn't work similarly, I suggest don't run Cupidity.
>>145763061
Gearfried Phoenix
>order from tcg
>21 days pass
>still not here
Untapped come on
>>145762853
Why didn't you draw good cards? Or at least draw yourself a minimum wage job to pay for all Crayola crayons needed to finish your shitty deck
>>145762474
Obviously you should run Cupidity in it.
My real question is whether or not to run Card of Demise in it.
I think I made Mecha Phantom Beasts relatively playable, I still can't out a Dark Destroyer easily, though.
Thoughts on non-targetting removal?
>there are people in this general who can't afford a 95 cent card
>>145763159
Yeah that was my fault for assuming that when we're talking about Card Destruction posing a problem we'd be talking about decks that play it that anybody actually gives a shit about. Sorry, miscommunication on my part
>>145763339
>Wanting gold rare
>>145763390
its alright, just dont be a kneejerk retard in the future, anon
>>145763321
Kaiju.
>>145763321
>>145763321
Drowning & Storming Mirror Force are the go-to right now
>>145763471
Well I'm glad we came to an understanding that Card Destruction isn't broken because a majority of the decks that even play it suck dick
>>145763421
Anon, I agree that gold rare is ugly, but it's still better than using a shitty drawing.
>>145763309
Why the FUCK would you run demise in Tele-DAD heroes?
>>145763339
He could've drawn himself Michael or stardust spark. I just don't understand why he'd grant himself such a shitty card.
Just finished this.
r8
>>145763421
>my shitty crayola card is better than actual card
>>145763498
i was looking for something that would mesh a bit better with MPB, granted the sticky string can be a dracossack material, I really don't think the deck can support an entire kaiju engine, unless theres synergy i cant see
>>145763513
this is side-deck stuff
>>145763538
i like storming and quaking, but are they really worth maining in my build? i usually save battle traps for REAL stun-shit like ophion.dek and Volcanics
>>145763583
Diamond Dude dude, what are you stupid?
>>145763583
>why would you run card of demise in a deck with under 10 monsters and lots of backrow that likes to mask change on the opponents turn i dont get it look at me im a flailing fucking retard
>>145763593
They are harder to draw.
>>145763702
bad psct
>>145763725
Oh, I'm not that anon that drew the Black rose. I just wanted to point out that gold is ugly.
What is it gonna take for Monarchs to hop on the Cupidity train like everyone else?
>>145763928
Having more that 1 of their searcher/draw power card available for a start
>>145763928
FORGOT THE FUCKING LINK
http://ygodr.blog.jp/archives/1058512717.html
>>145763857
Draw yourself a printer, Rudy Ta'stupid.
>>145763208
How stingy are sellers on tcg guys because it's been 22 days on my end and gametimecc blocked me because they fucked up my order.
I just want to know from others experiences, will untapped get pissy too, and should I wait till monday first before I contact them to be sure?
>>145762853
I liked that Black Rose anon, I thought it was prime kek materialI guess you took Jar of Greed's text way too literally
>>145764121
>prime kek material
>>145763149
On my way to fuck your shit up
>>145764209
Holy shit I forgot that card even existedRIP Disaster Dragons ;_;7
>>145763928
Not relying on a mill engine which bricks half the time and actually having a way to tutor that doesn't die to effect veiler.
Okay, faggots. Let me explain.
I can't just walk three steps and go to my local card shop of choice unlike most of you. I gotta drive two hours to go to the place where I get my cards from.
Having said that I was planning to pick up a couple of 5D's Legendary Collections because Black Rose is a promo but I didn't have the patience to wait until next week so I grabbed a pen and paper and drew it.
It reminded me that I did the same thing back in like 2005 when the Seal of Orichalcos wasn't a real card.
I bet when you were kids you used to print your cards instead, faggots.
>>145763149
>calling a deck anti-meta when it fucks over every deck regardless of viability
>>145764468
Nice detail on the petals
>>145764347
>Super Rejuv at 3
>this is still at 1
Would Disaster Dragons even be good this meta much less?
>>145764468
>It reminded me that I did the same thing back in like 2005 when the Seal of Orichalcos wasn't a real card.
It was, UDE never released it.
>>145764468
We are only making fun of you a little. It is more that we are poking fun at the meme that yugioh players are poor.
also
>drawing your cards
>to draw your cards
>>145763702
Yeah, fuck you. A Gren Maju which can be special summoned, has full destroying protection, is immune to card effects, can attack twice and can be used as a material for Rank 10 XYZ-Cards is not broken as fuck.
Post cards in decks that will win worlds
>>145765049
>Crystal Dragon is level 6
As long as it has a Cyber Dragon summoning ability like almost every other card from the movie, you can bet BRD is going into Blue-eyes.
>>145765049
>>145765049
>>145764468
You know this is actually pretty good for a crayon drawing. I'd honestly want to see more
When are we going to get an actually confirmed effect on Destiny Hero Dark Angel?
>>145765340
>everybody in OCG is using Cupidity
>nobody mains this for the free 3000 burn
Even pic related would be useful.
>>145763193
I can barely make out anything but the frilly cape bits, is it really him?
>tfw my friends and ex-girlfriend from high school are all grown-up, studying, partying and having sex and here I am playing YGO
>>145766150
don't worry you made the right choice.
>>145764468
Do you draw on your keyboard keys too?
>>145766150
>tfw the only two guys who liked Yugioh that I knew haven't talked to me since like 2013
>Last time we played was in like 2005
>tfw I'm still spending money on cards
>tfw tired of YGOPro
>tfw duel myself on my dining room table with two decks
>tfw it's the only way I can play this game IRL
>>145766150
>that picture
R E M O V E Y U R O P O O R S
>>145766014
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Trivia:Supervise
>>145764468
please do more.
>>145766445
You should attend events, anon.
>>145764468
>mfw I can go to Frank and Sons and see 10+ different card dealers at once
Feels good man
>Jizukiru is a level 9 mat for Enterblathnir that stops targetting effects
>Radian is a level 7 mat for Dracossack that summons beatstick tokens
what the fuck, what am I doing?
>>145766725
>Third world shithole
>Only place to play is an overcrowded plaza where everybody's trying to sell their cards
>Place is known for people grabbing your cards WHILE YOU'RE PLAYING without you noticing and stealing them
>You get your cards stolen and they're sold in less than 10 minutes
>Only safe way to play at this place is going with friends that can cover your back
>tfw no friends
>mfw
>>145765145
Wew this could work if they had necessary resources to revive with
>>145765340
Cupidity banish.dek winning would really be something
>Kozmos
>Monarch
>PK floating
>Pendulum searches
Why aren't people maining this like they did back in the day?
>>145766935
>Jizukiru
>Level 9
Anon, I...
>>145767138
It needs a retrain with a quick spell version.
>>145767070
>Gren Cupidity stunshit wins worlds
>Macro, Fissure, and Banisher all get put to 0
Banishitters on suicide watch
>>145767154
oh shit, i thought it was 9, that nekroz player had mentioned overlaying it for enterblathnir for a win, the fucking retard
>trying to play against meta decks on YGO
>everyone is undergroundfags
>>145767352
This is the best we got senpai
>>145767512
>nekroz player past the DUEA nuke
Ah that's the issue.
>>145767138
>Kozmos
If they run it, they can then bring it Dark Planet and have banish fodder
>Monarchs
Everything does something in grave/is used in grave
>PK
See above
>Pendulums
Yeah but who cares about them.
>>145767512
Are you sure you're calling the right person a retard? That guy never ran Jizukiru.
>>145767651
know what i was just gonna post about this, is it a good replacement for star destroyer? maybe i could run one of each
>>145767382
Pretty sure literally everyone else would be on suicide watch for losing to banish.dek, although this would actually prove that worlds list is a fucking joke format
>>145767382
I honestly think that PSY-Frames have a good chance of winning Worlds. Some other jank shit like Exodiamah boi ProWinston where u @winning would be hilarious too.
>>145767610
At least Mind Crush gets rid of multiple copies
>stunshit wins worlds
>we get back Cold Wave, Heavy Storm, Giant Trunade and HFD goes to 3.
>PSY-Frames win worlds
>Omega b&, Mind Drain goes to 3 and we get a Denko Sekka for handtraps
YES PLEASE.
>>145767651
Speaking from my Grayydle Kaiju experience, while I think Jizukiru is strictly better, a single Thunder King is good because he opens up OTKs. At the very worst, giving him to your opponent isn't too bad because he doesn't have a Quick Effect like Jizukiru does, so you can safely remove him with a Dracossack or whatever once you tribute your opponent's shit for him.
Also this is just a personal pet peeve, but Terraforming is really bad in the deck. 2/3 copies of Waterfront should be enough, the Kaijus aren't even your win condition like in the Grayydle variant.
>>145768047
Just like how Tellars got slaughtered on the banlist right :^)Don't say ROTA to 1 slaughtered it. It may have ruined the deck's competitiveness but it's nothing compared to the Infernity treatment
Jokes aside though, as a PSY-Frame player, I really hope they don't do that. Omega to 1 I could live with, hell maybe even a semi-limit on Overload, Gamma or Circuit would leave the deck dead in the competitive scene but playable. Any more would make them worse than Cloudians.
>>145768083
Meant for
>>145767732
>>145768374
>Don't say ROTA to 1 slaughtered it. It may have ruined the deck's competitiveness.
Infernities are nothing like Tellars since they actually had plays outside outside of r4 and stunshit.
RoTA to 1 was what really killed the deck by ruining all consistency and Ptol b& was the final nail in the coffin. Monarchs are currently pissing on the grave.
Why do I have to give my name for YGOpro?
>>145768083
so as an engine, for my MPB deck, good ratios would be:
>1 Jiziukiru: beatstick, targetting protection to synergize with draco's destruction protection
>1 Thunder King: level 9 mat, target for cloudcastle, beatstick, good kaiju for opponent
>2 Radian: level 7 mat, token generator, beatstick, good kaiju for opponent
>2 Sticky String: level 7 mat, good kaiju for opponent
>3 field, no terra
>3 slumber
and then just ignore gamaciel because the opponent could use it to fuck me over?
>>145769902
i'm gonna need that theme
Rate and hate. LAO is much better in practice than it seems.
>>145768917
Not to say that they're tier one or anything, but Tellars have stolen a small number of tops recently so I would hardly call them dead.
http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/deck_search_result.asp?Location=State+Championship+-+2016-06-12+Wisconsin
>>145770483
>taking out the 1 copy of marauding
:(
>>145770798
Kagemusha Knight is generally better anyway.
>>145770558
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decks/Satellarknight
>a single top after nothing for 5 months doesn't mean that a deck is dead.
>>145770446
bg or texture?
>tfw you use Master Key Beetle's effect on your Mask of Restrict/Anti-Spell Fragrance and search Phantom Knights' Wing
>>145771230
kagemusha doesn't trigger mist
>>145771424
It's gotten a few others, and the only point I'm trying to make is that if it can still top I'd refrain from calling it dead.
>>145771595
Cosmic Cyclone ;)
>>145771447
I'd like the textures for the theme.
>>145770558
Infernities topped in the OCG a couple of times with different variants when Pend Magicians dropped but they're still dead
>>145771990
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6dOwjhndJ2KTUFHUGFhYlBpVWs
>>145772575
ty babe
>>145771695
That's fucking retarded lmao one random top doesn't not make a deck not dead
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29069941
So the Yugi and Kaiba SDs are due tomorrow in OCG land.
Any expectations?
I expect Dark Magic Succession to find its way into DM tops and Magnets/ABC may be fun rogue over there.
>>145773616
>DM tops
DM hardly tops.
>>145774093
Retard
lol
You are no longer seeing a robot but you are now seeing a ray gun from an underneath point-of-view
>decisionguy was mistranslated
>his 1 and 3 effects are actually once per DUEL
for what purpose
>>145774818
Since we're talking about updates to card effects, looks like most of Kaiba's Union monsters got a buff
This time with an actual fucking link:
https://ygorganization.com/ocg-union-text-update/
>>145774328
>Neo Bubbleman is unable to be played because of the current banlist
JUST
>Removing the 1 union per monster rule and making all unions protect from battle and card destruction
Fuck yes.
>>145775081
>>145775081
nice
>>145775081
Too bad the original XYZ Trio is still pretty useless.
>doesn't work with union hangar
>can't protect the unions or Infinity
>don't float unlike ABC
>>145775081
It's a shame Unions are still pretty useless outside of gimmicky decks.
>>145775175
Now if they'd only let unions give their effects when equipped by any means.
>>145775696
Only X-Head Cannon doesn't work with Hanger, Y-Dragon Head and Z-Metal Tank work fine.if Rescue Rabbit goes to 2 or 3 I'd run X-Head Cannon desu
Gun Dragon support when?
WHY THE FUCK DID X-HEAD CANNON HAVE TO BE A FUCKING VANILLA
>>145776394
You may as well be asking why Magnet Warriors are vanillas.
This card is like 19 years old and nobody considered that Unions might ever be expanded on past GX.
>>145776028
They already do don't they? Stuff like Roll Out! give them their effect and it doesn't state that it's special or anything.
>>145776394
Just give it and the original XYZ trio retrains.
Does anyone have this without the logo?
If not, then please someone photoshop them out
>>145776394
The only reason X-Head is considered bad at the moment is because they make effect monster exclusive effects. Like what would be the issue if Hangar said ANY light machine? (The summon effect, not the search effect) Shit, fuck it EVEN the search effect.
>>145776831
>Like what would be the issue if Hangar said ANY light machine
You'd give Cydras more search power and make Galaxy Soldier -> Infinity a shitload more consistent
>>145776831
If Hangar added any LIGHT Machine on activation, Cyber Dragon/ABCs would be fucking insane. I'll go out on a limb and say that'd make them meta.
Destiny Hero Diplopia Guy's destruction effect isn't once per turn? What's stopping that from being abused?
>Cause it's a fusion LEL
Come on man, don't be stupid. You know how easy it is to fuse 2 heroes from like every fucking place in this game? deck, grave, hand, banish, etc?
>>145775696
>doesn't work with union hangar
You're an idiot, the only one that doesn't work with Hangar is X-Head Cannon and that's specifically because it isn't a Union monster
>can't protect the unions or Infinity
Did you not read the actual article? They got buffed, they protect from battle AND card effect destruction just like the new ABCs
>don't float
They're fucking old as shit cards man, no one really expected them to
>>145776805
No need to thank me
>>145776572
The Union support cards give them their effects, but no other methods do. For instance, I play Vylons, and Vylon Omega can equip one of them to himself from the grave, but they just sit there uselessly.
>>145777119
ok, is there anyone here with actual photoshop skills that isn't an ebin memester and wants to help?
>>145777081
>don't float
What were the oldest floaters anyways, I remember Mystic Tomato and Dekoichi seeing a lot of use.
>>145777283
It would be a huge pain in the ass to do that and it isn't even an interesting image in the first place. Making it to begin with would have been easier than editing out the logo.
>>145777283
Tried my best.
>>145777354
Sangan and Witch of the Black Forest came in Metal Raiders.
>>145777436
pretty good, based
>>145777416
BTFO
>>145777459
Completely forgot about them for some reason.
>>145777081
>Did you not read the actual article? They got buffed, they protect from battle AND card effect destruction just like the new ABCs
They can still only equip to X and Y, and nothing else
>be 5'5" and 110lb trap
>friend asks me to go to locals with him since I play online
>refuse because I don't have real-life cards, relent when he says I can borrow one of his decks
>come to find out it's a black locals with one or two Asians
>friend is on the other side of the store, sit down to play my first game
>black guy starts hitting on me
>win, trying to ignore him
>happens again in my next match, get sick of it
>start talking about my "boyfriend"
>"Who, that cracka you walked in with?"
>since he's on the other side of the room, decide to roll with it
>every time a black guy hits on me I start talking about how great he is, all these fake qualities I really have no knowledge about
>every black guy gets so pissed off they keep misplaying and lose
>finally one guy grabs my wrist and angrily whispers, "yeah, I got a 9 inch dick bitch"
>crack a smile
>"Oh, how big hard? My boyfriend is only 8 inches soft."
>black guy punches me right in my face
>starts chimping out so bad cops are called
>friend apologizes profusely while the ambulance cleans up my face, promises we'll never come back to this place
Can we just ban black people from Japanese stuff in general?
>>145777032
>Destiny Hero Diplopia Guy's destruction effect isn't once per turn? What's stopping that from being abused?
How about you read the card? Each effect has a hard OPT and the destruction
>targets
Not only that but you need to change its attack for it to trigger but nobody reduces atk nowadays so have fun with Twin Flashing Swords.
>>145777698
Pics
>>145776394
So you can use pic related
>Dystopiaguy can only target level 4 or lower "Destiny HERO" monsters for its burn effect to activate
>no 3400 burn damage on summon with Dogma
>regarding the actual meta, its sole interesting effect got nerfed hard, making him basically useless
Thanks, Konami
>>145778949
>there are people who still don't think Konami intentionally nerfs cards, especially from older archetypes
inb4 Blue-Eyes, which only works because people had to buy 3 of 8 new cards to make it work.
I had an idea
What if they make a new version of X- Head Cannon with an effect?
>>145777698but I like Japanese things ;_;
>>145779147
Well if you like Japanese things and you're black don't hit on or be abusive towards traps who are visiting, it's extremely rude and I didn't like bleeding on my favorite blouse.
>>145777698
>Black guys looking for traps
>Every black guy there is gay
trying to hard fampai.
>>145779521
>knowing it's a trap
Considering how black women look I'd be surprised if a black guy can even detect a trap.
>>145779041
>inb4 Blue-Eyes, which only works because people had to buy 3 of 8 new cards to make it work.
What are these 8 new cards again?
The only new cards you need for BEWD.dek are Alternative Dragon, Sage with eyes of Blue, Ancient Stone, Dragon Spirit of White, Blue-eyes Spirit Dragon and Gospel of Revival.
Everything else is winmoar as fuck or gimmicky trash like Deep-eyes, Neo Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon and Blue-eyes Chaos MAX Dragon.
I do agree with you that Konami intentionally nerfs cards,
BLS has WAY too many restrictions
Red-eyes fusion has way too much restrictions to be good
Blue-eyes is full of "when...you can" and has hard OPTs everywhere.
New Destiny HEROES are just as shit as if we're back in GX with how underpowered, gimmicky and restrictive they are.
>>145779752
>Everything else is winmoar as fuck or gimmicky trash like Deep-eyes, Neo Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon and Blue-eyes Chaos MAX Dragon.
lmao people still call MAX trash
>>145776362
Field Spell Card: Rigged Casino
Once per turn, you can special summon one monster from your hand which requiers you to flip a coin or roll a dice to activate it's effect. Whenever you activate a card effect which requiers you to flip a coin, pick heads or tails: Tread it as the result of the coin flip. Whenever you activate an effect which requiers you to roll a dice: pick one number from 1-6, thread it as the result of the dice roll.
>>145779896
Do we really need to post the list of easy to make shit which takes out MAX?
If you check OCG results, Ritual Blue-eyes or Blue-eyes with Chaos MAX does even worse than Pure Blue-eyes.
>>145780080
>perfectly balanced since it only works on gamble cards
>dies to MST in case things get rough
>field spell so not unsearchable
This is one of the few CaCs I approve getting made into a real card.
Gamble cards need something else that's not second coin toss.
>>145780132
It doesn't fucking matter when you should be winning the turn you summon MAX and not sit on it like a retard.
>>145780558
Nice 10/10. would hit with my whitu genes.
>>145780080
ARCANA FORCE TIER 0
>>145780558
I can fap to this.
>>145778915
If only this could work with Gemini. I hope they get a searcher spell
>>145780080
>>145780826
Just negate the summon. Or activate a non-targeting non-destroying effect which removes this card. Gren Maju is way better than Chaos Max. It is not cockblocked by Special Summon locks, does not need an additional card to be summoned and is generally far more splashable since everything runs cupidity anyway.
>>145780080
>not "The House Always Wins"
>>145781286
>>145781494
ZA WARUDO
>First turn Void Ogre, Rafflesia and Dark Law
Why didn't you guys tell me Heroes were so much fun?
>>145779752
Why does Konami even still print gimmicky shit instead of just simple good cards
You'd think they knew at this point that any card that doesn't meaningfully advance your gamestate and works with minimal to no setup will not see play
>>145762018
>DW
awful, just awful
>fabled
awful, just awful
>shaddolls
maybe
>BA
meh
>zombie
it would help
>dark-synch
Im not sure what this is specifically, is this the gofu and synchron extreme decks that topped?
What is the best deck to deal with the monarchs which is not tier 1 or 2?
>>145781504
>>Just negate the summon.
With what?
There's exactly 4 cards capable of doing them and one of them hardly ever sees play
> Or activate a non-targeting non-destroying effect which removes this card.
Such as?
>Gren Maju is way better than
oh nevermind, I was talking to a shitter all along
>>145782059
Exodia Burn decks
>>145781984
>Why does Konami even still print gimmicky shit instead of just simple good cards
Yugioh has three audiences
The animefags
The casuals
The tourneyfags.
Animefags will buy anything, regardless if it's good so long as it was used in the anime and it can help them cosplay as their favorite character.
Casuals are like animefags but they are more or less value card art over card potency. Mostly petdeckshitters this group.
Tourneyfags are those who play ARG or in Worlds. This group only buys the best cards and that's basically everybody in here.
>>145782059
anything running Future Visions ;^)
>>145782174
Just play Solemn Strike. Or Evacuation Device.
Effects which banish, shuffle into the deck or do similar stuff which makes sure that that card can't attack.
>>145781984
There are only so many ways you can copy paste special summon from deck and add from deck to hand across an entire archetype, and those are pretty much the only "good" effects in YGO. At least on main deck cards.
>>145782302
>and that's basically everybody in here.
This place is fucking petdeck central, the only time people talk about the meta here is when they want to shitpost.
>>145782479
>>Just play Solemn Strike.
On a ritual summon, yes.
>Or Evacuation Device.
On Chaos MAX, yes.
To Stratos, goodbye.
To /dng/, thank you.
And to all of (You), congratulations!
>>145782583
>There are only so many ways you can copy paste special summon from deck and add from deck to hand across an entire archetype,
Tell that to Tewart, his entire deck does that.
>>145782007
dark sync is anything that spams the shit out of arma, plaguespreader, grepher, and malicious
>>145780558
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh myyyyyy fuuuuuuuuck
>>145780558
>you will never tap this boipussi
why even fucking post this?
>>145781265
>>145781297
>>145783349
>>145783397Thank you, but please don't derail the thread.
>>145782685
Prevent the special summon then. Or the activation of the ritual spell. Never had any problems with Chaos MAX to be honest. However, I run GrenMajuBanish.dek and usually have a card at around 8000+ on the field, so there is that.
>>145782918
So does every good deck.
>>145780558
Hot
>>145783537
Too late, the people demand more
>>145782583
I beg to differ, you can search and summon all day but you need some sort off payoff to actually win. See: Fire Fists
>>145780558
first we get breath of the wild link, and now we get this
>>145782302
The thing is that the casual cards dont have to be (and frankly shouldn't be) total gimmicky shit.
But we already went over that last thread.
>>145784569
Hence why I said main deck cards. Actually winning is what the extra deck is for.
The main deck is your engine. The extra deck is where your plays are.
>>145785132
>Actually winning is what the extra deck is for.
>The main deck is your engine. The extra deck is where your plays are.
Oh you have no idea how much I am laughing right now.
Hohum, gonna try and meme with Gigavise once the field comes out on pro, need a break from karakuri memes.
>>145785132
Kozmo and monarchs are laughing really fucking hard right now.
>>145785353
>>145785509
I'm talking about an ideal world here. Kozmo and Monarchs are fucking shit design and shouldn't exist.
>Mill Miracle Fusion with Diamond Dude
>Shit, I hope I get some way to bring Bubbleman out next turn, I don't have any water targets yet
>Next turn, topdeck into Bubbleman
It's always nice when your deck responds.
>>145784681
That's a good point but designs matter more to casuals.
As long as the card is playable, it will sell
This deck is fucking nuts.
>>145785132
That's what I'm saying. Fire Fists have awesome engine pieces and combo enablers (Leopard/Spirit/Tenki/Bear/Wolfbark etc.), but nothing to actually do with those cards. It's kust empty advantage since Horse Prince is nothing but a 2200 beater (who gives more empty plusses or Vulcan who
>targets
>>145785945
>MPBs give no fucks about getting Slumber'd
>Radian is R7 material
>Kaijus are ultimate removal anyways
Nice to see that you've refined your deck anon, how are the matchups against the meta? Also I'd recommend replacing Terraforming/Upstart with Sacred Sword for maximum memes.
>>145785575
>my opinion is the right one
>anything that goes against it is a abomination against nature and shouldn't exist
>hype about new Destiny Hero support
> it all sucks
Its not fair
>>145785912
Do I just jam her into random pendulum crap and call it a day?
>>145784681
What's your definition of gimmicky shit?
>>145786425
I'd say we'll still get a few more cards, but yeah. What we've got is pretty shit.
>>145786305
pretty good anon, with all the non-targetting banishing and tributing going around, removal's never been easier, im new to kaijus so if you have any tips on ratios or plays im all ears
>power creep has advanced to the point where not even removal is good anymore unless it's non targeting non destruction
What IS even still "good" for a card to do these days
>>145786697
Banishing Judgment Dragon
Tiaramisu and Judgment Dragon's lovechild
Power creep Lava Golem clones more than Kaiju
>>145785575
Even then, you're still wrong since we've had several formats from DM-GX where the ED was irrelevant.
The only formats where the ED was relevant back then was GOAT, Cyber OTKs and Gladiator Beasts.
5ds - Zexal is when the ED became important and then Arc-V made that pointless with how much Shaddolls shat on synchro and xyz deck and how badly Nekroz raped you if you used the ED.
They're taking a complete shit on it nowadays with Monarchs and Kozmos.
>>145786697
>generates advantage (see Pantheism)
>floats from anything (see BA, dolls and Kozmos)
>complete effect immunity (see Towers, Ultimate Ruri and Magnus)
>tutors from the deck/summons from the deck
>summons itself easily
>>145786697
Destruction is still good on backrow. But right now the only good removal is either Kaijus (best removal, can't be Strike'd, doesn't start a chain) or non-targeting shuffle/banish. Targeting monsters isn't worth it anymore, though I'd make an exception for PSY-Frame Overload only because it banishes face-down which is as close as you can get to totally removing a card from the duel nowadays.
But we all know the best removal in the game isSphere Mode
>>145786480
no anon, you jam random pendulum crap into her
>>145786697
Float, search, negate, or otherwise ignore things your opponent is doing.
>>145786697
>Tribe-Infecting Virus is irrelevant
>Yata-Garasu is irrelevant
>Destiny HERO - Disk Commander is irrelevant
>Fishborg Blaster is irrelevant
>Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaity is irrelevant
>Dimension Fusion is irrelevant
>Pot of Avarice is irrelevant
>Super Rejuvenation is irrelevant
>Gateway of the Six is irrelevant
>Butterfly Dagger - Elma is irrelevant
>Return from the Different Dimension is irrelevant
>Last Turn is irrelevant
>Time Seal is irrelevant
>Ultimate Offering is irrelevant
What a time to be alive.
If Tewart loves Kozmo why is Mind Master still banned?
Checkmate server, atheists.
>>145787284
What about Statos and Construct
>>145787554
What about them?
>>145787665
Is the meta so retarded that they've been powercreeped?
>>145787779
both of them could easily be at 3 and they would't do shit.
>>145787284
>Time Seal
>Irrelevant
Making your opponent skip their draw phase seems pretty relevant to me. It's less resources for them.
>>145787284
>>Tribe-Infecting Virus is irrelevant
Floatshit is to blame for this.
Don't forget Raigeki and Dark Hole
>>Yata-Garasu is irrelevant
Hantraps and grave quick effects did this
>>Destiny HERO - Disk Commander is irrelevant
He's broken draw power, what are you on?
>>Fishborg Blaster is irrelevant
Fish Masturbation tier 0 with this guy around.
>Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaity is irrelevant
It was always Hunter to be banned anyways.
>Dimension Fusion is irrelevant
HELL NO.
This is the original Soul Charge
>Pot of Avarice is irrelevant
Basically, everything floats so it's only good in slow decks
>Super Rejuvenation is irrelevant
D R A G O N S took this with them when they died.
Blue-eyes bricks too much to even use this.
>Gateway of the Six is irrelevant
Sams died since 2012.
>Butterfly Dagger - Elma is irrelevant
That loop is still annoying, what are you on?
>Return from the Different Dimension is
irrelevant
See Dimension Fusion
>Last Turn is irrelevant
u srs?
I bet you don't even know why this is banned.
>Time Seal is irrelevant
It's a trap Yata so it's easier to get off.
>Ultimate Offering is irrelevant
GADGETS
A
D
G
E
T
S
are dead anyways so yes.
>>145787554
Stratos is dead because HERO doesn't need all that consistency and Construct need to come off
>>145787284
>Dimension Fusion is irrelevant
>Fishborg Blaster is irrelevant
>RftDD is irrelevant
>Last Turn is irrelevant
>Ultimate Offering is irrelevant
Let's not get crazy now. Those cards are still stupid.
>>145787996
>He's broken draw power, what are you on?
>needs to be in your graveyard
>then needs to be special summoned from the graveyard
>to draw 2
wow so broken
kuraz does the exact same fucking thing but less situational and he can be played in an actually good deck
>>145786697
Destroying cards throught battle while inflicting a shit ton of damage.
Original requester here.
so perfect. thanks a bunch!
>>145788184
t. Cubics and Cydras
>>145788274
What would Cubics need to be good?
>>145788392
Another good in-theme monster, and good new generic machine support.
>>145788392
Duja clones.
>>145788392
Actual consistency and monsters they can actually summon which don't suck.
The Cubic Dieties are some of the most bullshit cards to ever exist.
>>145788392
More consistency really. Crimson Nova is an amazing boss monster and is super easy to summon but you have to make sure you don't brick.
>>145788134
Yeah, because it's so difficult to get Destiny HEROs into the Graveyard. And he's basically unsearchable too, a Level 1 DARK Warrior-Type HERO monster! There's barely any way to get him into or out of your hand! And don't get me started on reviving him. Yeah, I mean we do have triple Oasis and CotH at our disposal, but it's not like any good decks use those right?
>>145788245
I'm the drawfag, glad you enjoy it anon.
>>145788392
Lavalval Chain.
