http://pastebin.com/pYdwfntu
Tekken 7 console gameplay/streams where?
Are there any moves that are punishable on hit in any game?
Fighting Vipers 3 when
>>145443879
yeah, forgot which games though
>>145443879
>>145443903
Blanka ball in SF4 is punishable on hit sometimes.
dragon quest fighting game when
>>145439574
the release of the game had a very small amount of characters, you had to learn 20 second combos to compete with other players, most people aren't interested in a game where you can get combo'd for 20 seconds then reset into another 20 second combo, Mike Z did fix a lot of problems people had with the game on launch like the length of combos and stuff but it was too late
>>145443879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LNOwddNWME
>>145443879
Urien in 3S has a move that is. I forget which though.
>>145444029
Skullgirls 2 when
>>145443701
so how about that 2016 release date for Tekken 7?
REAL BEDMAN HOURS
IF YOU UP REVERSAL SUPERING AND YRCING THEN HIT THAT MF LIKE BUTTON
>>145444029
>you had to learn 20 second combos
>at launch
more like 60+ seconds
>>145444189
probably never
they're doing another game which is an ARPG which has only one girl with tits and ass which makes them look like they're trying to get away from the pervy image of Skullgirls
>>145443879
yes. lots, actually
>>145443879
yes, there are plenty of incompetent developers who are stupid enough to put moves that are punishable on hit into their games.
>>145443879
Blanka ball is the biggest offender. It's been punishable on hit in a few games.
In SFIV, Cody's pipe is punishable if it only hits once. Some are punishable if done in the corner. Bunch of little things that can make different moves punishable on hit.
>>145444394
They don't own the rights to Skullgirls and wanted to make an RPG. In the future, we may see Skullgirls 2 but it's not going to be anytime soon.
>>145444394
LabZero are geniune SJW sellouts. Ravid was on Neofag around the clock begging those trannies to fund his shitty game.
>>145444423
Void post of the day
>>145443879
Ken's sa3 punishes a bunch of shit on hit
>>145444584
They got pretty desperate anon.
>no funding
>no more labzero
>no more skullgirls 2
I'd get desperate too.
>>145443879
Cable can ahvb punish rocket punch on hit.
>>145443879
if someone doesn't do a jump in deep enough in ST, you can punish it with a throw (under certain conditions) because they're 0 frames in that game
it's called counter throwing
>>145443879
not just attacks, but there have also been instances in some fighters where successfully landing a throw is punishable. *cough*doa
>>145445284
and SFV
>>145444992
>SJWs making a SG2
>>145445270
You can do that in GG too. And stop using the HBR's 0 frame bullshit.
Throws have 1 frame of startup in ST.
>>145445473
they made the the first one which was pretty okay
esports aaaaaAAAAAaaaaa
>>145444992
They'll never make an SG2. Ravid is too much of an SJW and hates everything about Skullgirls. Times have changed.
>>145445473
>>145445637
>SJWs making a game that glorifies violence against women
>>145445341
nice fucking game wow
>>145445660
muh dik
>Make a game only China cares about
>Don't release it on the 战斧 F1
What's SNK doing?
>>145445660
>>145445684
Yeah, everybody knows CEOs of game companies usually make games they hate.
Look at LabZero now.
>underaged spats fetish girl getting licked by monsters in the prototype game
>said girl is from India but she has T.Hawk's fighting stance.
>T.Hawk is a Native American
>Europeans thought they landed in India so they called the natives Indian
Totally SJWs guys.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/McLe0VS.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
So, are you all enjoying General RAAM?
>>145443805
literally google/youtube search it.
streams won't have it until t7fr is actually released. or if markman is at an fgc/wizard world event.
>>145443701
i wish makoto was my squirrel
>>145446424
goddamn update is taking so long for me
Anyone else actually hyped as fuck for tekken 7?
I think the trailer was VERY well done.
>>145446141
This is the most banal attempt of defending an outspoken SJW dev. If they love SG so much, why do a 180 for their new shit with tumblr reject designs instead of sticking to SG-like designs? I heard rumors that LZ artists are pissed off with the new direction the company has taken.
was gootecks ever good? i started playing street fighter last week
>>145447190
meeeee desu
how do i know if my character has more than one ultra?
>>145447386
Define 'good'
>>145447386
Maybe slightly above average in AE, but by the time Ultra came around he couldn't compete.
>>145447386
do u want 2 suck his dick?
>>145447328
Sg designs were shit too.
>>145447328
>an outspoken SJW dev
who? proof?
>180
have you seen the final boss of the game?
also, did you miss this post? >>145444394
>LZ artists are pissed off
only rumor that sounds like this is that Zone (yes, that tentacle guy) is sad because he can't draw the MC fully nude anymore in the rough drafts of her sprites or w/e the fuck because the game development has been streaming alot of shit
also
>SJWs playing games
>SJWs playing hard games
tumblr is going to cry at the difficulty of this game when it comes out and it's going to be hilarious.
>played 5 games today
>only won 2, one of which didn't rematch
>>145443879
Gief's greenhand m8.
This fgg not bitch about sjw's
>DMC5 wasn't real
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
And weren't they supposed to talk more about Tekken?
Typical Famitsu teaser bullshit tiny ass picture for ants going over a bit more of KoF and showing off Antonov for the first time.
>>145447190
meeeeeeeeee
>>145447629
characters look more interesting than skullgirl shit alread, nice to see a company grow
>>145448282
They did
>>145448376
Wait I missed it
What did they say?
>>145448425
Coming out on console early 2017
>>145448493
That was at the MS conference, I was talking about the Sony conference
>>145448546
Why would it be at both?
If there's going to be more info it's going to be on the showfloor
SFV is complete shit. I fucking hate Xrds gameplay, but at least I get to play with people. I know it's going to die in a couple months but fuuuuuccckkk
>>145448597
https://twitter.com/TekkenGamercom/status/742445144809582592
>>145448642
That's not an official account, they were just hoping
>>145447414
Why is she so white there
>>145448345
Have you ever noticed how the XIV in KOF XIV looks like the IV in Street Fighter IV
>>145448843
No because it really doesn't.
An actual Tekken 7 FR release date
but it is a little more than 6 months away at earliest
>>145448345
is dat a gril on the left
Is Ibuki's SFV movelist up already somewhere?
>>145443805
Tekken 7
Nude mods ... when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4h8o4pWECI
best designed FG characters?
vid related for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bptNiftn3XY
skip to 0:55
>>145449041
>tfw the trailer is dash and mash
>>145448950
It's a boy
how do i know if i have a stand
>>145449891
do you have 2 functioning legs?
Man why do I even bother trying to play fighting games. After 100 hours im still shit. How the fuck are you cunts motivated to still play
>>145449990
i have 400+ hours and less than 1000 LP in street fighter 5
>>145449041
i'll grab it on pc if it has crossplay haven't played tekken since the first one when i was a kid
>>145450045
I made it to silver in a day and stopped playing online
>>145449990
it's only 100 hours. plus, things ramp up each time you learn new stuff and develop good habits.
>>145450090
>when i was a kid
so yesterday?
How drastic do character movelists/playstyle change between games? For example, tekken 6 to tag 2 to T7?
Soon
>>145449990
Im pretty new, im so used to being decent/good when I have over a 100 hours in games but with fighting games you can expect to play for a 1000 and still be shit.
Thats what someone told me anyway
how do character archetypes work in tekken?
>>145450286
I really wish, i'm 26, still shit at fighting games and wasted too many years doing nothing
the fact that i'm still posting here is also depressing
>>145450331
all tekken characters remain largely the same from the very first 1996 game through tekken7
>>145450415
>>145450164
Seems like I need to hire a tutor to actually get better at fighting games. Its the only genre where I hit a wall and can't git guud
>>145449081
>combo into jazzy nyc
>>145450331
Tekken sucks lmao i guess its better than shit like gg for a secondary /fgg/ game
>>145450331
not largely. it's often just a handful of new moves, adjusting old moves (sometimes just the frame data, other times the properties), or changing inputs.
in those specific games, t6 -> tag 2 was overall a pretty big change mainly due to tag assault combos. sure, you can call it t6.5, but there were a ton of adjustments.
tag 2 -> t7.0 is not a huge leap, actually. most returning characters kept all their moves and were given maybe a couple new ones, with some adjusted to be a screw attack for combos. it's mainly the new system and system changes that affected each of them most. tag 2 -> t7fr is a different story, so far at least.
>>145449990
Nowadays I play fighting games to release my anger. There's too much fucking bullshit. You think I give a fuck about being good. As long as I can do my combos I don't care if I lose to Diego, John or Steve. Getting good. Shit it's not about getting good it's about playing the game
Alright tekken guys
Who uses lightning in Tekken
who is unga rushdown in tekken?
>>145450461
what do you mean? they exist, but they aren't really confined to any specific playstyle or gameplan. for example, a grappler can actually play lame and keep out.
>>145449081
Rashid, his offensive tools make him very fun especially for a SF game.
>>145450987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBzbdw5y-sE
>>145450885
mishimas (kazuya, devil jin, heihachi), normal jin, and lars.
>>145450987
at low/scrub levels, hwoarang, steve, and law. at higher levels...maybe feng?
>>145451181
Aren't the mishimas hard to use? Or so I've read here
>>145451137
I hope they nerf that gorilla before release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdRE18D4PpE
>>145451230
They are pretty basic and most of the time you just need to know how to do EGWF and you are set for a decent run online but other than that they aren't harder than other characters, at least that is how i see it
>>145451398
that recovery is retarded lmfao nash dash tier of retardation
>>145451097
Pitiful how low his damage is though
>>145451230
it's mostly an execution grind, but it's nothing too special or particularly difficult. if you're mashing with your friends, it'll make no difference. if you're trying to compete in tournaments, then it's almost a handicap to play them without certain basics. all the while learning tekken basics.
reality is that they're harder than most of the cast to get a solid grasp of in order to jump into a tournament and play solid tekken, especially compared to feng or dragunov, let's say. it doesn't help that everyone knows, or should know the matchup, so it's an uphill battle in that sense too.
otherwise, if you just put in like 15-30 minutes a day practicing the execution stuff in training mode, it's nothing anyone can't handle. applying it will take a lot longer, though, and that's where the main difficulty lies. it's not the wavedashing and ewgfs that are hard, it's doing them on command while playing tekken with a human opponent.
it's also the super optimized combos, but pretty much no one except top level kazuya players need those.
>>145451463
>>145451610
Alright thanks for the info, I will definitely try them out since I actually like grinding a little bit before actually playing, helps me getting warmed up
>>145451765
Well you know that the game is not out yet right?
>>145451827
Yeah. but I'm thinking of picking up tag 2, and maybe I can start from there
>>145451765
Considering how Tekken works just use whatever character you find intereresting unless you actually like one of the Mishimas then do whatever you like and learn how to EWGF
What's the eu fgc discord channel?
>>145451765
>>145451872
no problem. there are plenty of video and written guides to help get you started on mishimas. and most characters, really. but don't lose sight of learning the whole game.
tekken on, anon.
What's the au fgc discord channel?
>>145452630
check >>145452404
>>145449081
>arg! BEES
every time
>>145452630
https://discord.gg/0tfDuLX1oxl5IUCk
>>145452404
https://discord.gg/0TRfv0uy1A3zs9Rs
>>145450345
June 32nd is almost here!
Anyone up for some 3s? eu
>>145453168
shoot me an invite
>>145452849
whered you get these links
What do people see in stuff like Overwatch?
Those kinds of games are meat grinders where you barely even have to aim or move or hit many buttons to get a 10-kill streak
Overwatch is even worse at this because they don't even differentiate between assists and kills and the hitboxes on everything are fuckhuge.
>>145453179
sent ;)if you're serious; what's your name? Mine is bbqbob
>>145453284
Wrong general
>>>/vg/overwatch
>>>/v/
>wake up
>Tekken 7 still announced on pc with stam page up already
Neat
>no new characters
Wow glad I did not stay up for sonys meh show. Glad I learned from the past.
>>145453516
>tfw I did for DMC5
>I only got RE7
At least it seems ok
>>145452849
delete this
>>145453516
>wake up
>moms still alive so i have to postpone my suicide by one more day
I was kind of hoping a Riot games fighter would have been announced.
https://www.change.org/p/fightcade-make-hildr-move-back-to-america
Who wants to play sfv?
>>145450987
Bob in Tekken 6, Shaheen in Tekken 7 Vanilla.
>>145450885
Jin
>>145454134
why do you care about a riot fighting game?
How do you unlock Dizzy and Kum?
Are they only available through buying them on PS store??
What would you like to see in a fighting game for mobile devices?
>tfw you anti-air jumps with Raam's down+HP
>>145454542
>tfw you anti-air jumps with anyone's LP
>>145454530
you mean all the kof games?
>>145454503
You need to "buy" the free dlc.
>>145454202
kek
I'd sign but change.org are a bunch of cunts
>Don't be fooled by the flag! Hildr is simply a gaijin in nihongo clothing! His rude and belligerant behavior, shameless braindead play style and obnoxious FITS OF YELLING show his true (American) colors. #BringHildrHome
>tekken 7 on pc
>still not kof xiv
BOI
>>145455072
>kof xiv
just download the rom and use pcsx2, should run it 100% well
>>145453284
its popular. its popular because its blizzard.
has waifus though and no 360mlgnoscope
what's the difference between tekken, doa and vf ? i only play doa so far....
>>145455784
Superiour
Limb
Based
Combat
>>145455784
vf is a man's game.
tekken and doa are for weeaboos
>>145447190
Trailer was cool and all but the best part about it was Lili's new move.It was a homing move.
How was Crapcom completely silent this E3 regarding SFV? Just what the hell is going on there?
>>145455784
vf is primarily focused around playing at the range where characters are up in each other's faces. the flow of the match constantly changes, and both players are highly encouraged to take initiative and make decisions. this is reinforced by all the system mechanics which don't have much use or value outside of that up-close range.
tekken is primarily focused on mid-range; vying for positioning and space control. you basically play the poke-counterpoke-whiff punish game for neutral, using the elaborate movement system to properly space yourself. the movement system is also very important in offense or defense or any stage of the game.
doa is more focused around_____________________________________tits______________________________________and often the game can be boiled down to__________________________shit____________________
Already looking at T7 Trailer you can already feel that the game is made by someone who really gives a shit about it. It shows how Harada is a much better executive producer than Ono.
>>145456461
The game will be completely dropped after the last charcter of the "first" and only seaso is released. Enjoy your dead game while everyone will play THE KING OF IRON FIST TOURNAMENT SEVEN FATED RETRIBUTION
>>145456582
>Harada is a much better executive producer than Ono
That might be true but Ono does genuinely seem to work very hard. I don't think he's half assing it or that all the screw ups are his fault (though of course he is going to take the blame)
>>145456662
>Enjoy your dead game while everyone will play THE KING OF IRON FIST TOURNAMENT SEVEN FATED RETRIBUTION
I don't get whats with all the Tekken and SF comparisons anyway. SF is a 2d fighter, Tekken is a 3d one. If you want to shit post, at least say "Play KOF" or something
>>145456473
I love you
>>145456695
Get a trip, ono.
>>145456913
:^)
>>145456662
in """""""""early""""""""" 2017
Are servers back?
>>145456582
Ease up on the cocksucking, this is a blue board.
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/742683835964395520
Reposting
Anyone 3s fightcade eu?
>>145456826
get in line.
>>145457454
>more fg podcasts with 3 viewers
>>145457454
is this going to be like blazblue radio or something?
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/screens/tekken7-e3-2.htm
Some gameplay footage from e3.
>>145457889
Eye patch is the new hotness.
>>145457512
Do you play ken, yun or chun?
>>145457945
nah akuma
>>145457942
How hard will capcom fuck up juris ingame look?
>>145457945
There's *nothing* wrong with playing as Ken! Yun and Chun fags can jump off a cliff though.
>>145457942
>koreans
i bet knee and jdcr will replace their glasses with an eyepatch.
>>145457942
It's stupid and gay
>>145458037
Eh not feeling like a mirror, sorry.
>>145458071
Ken is boring as fuck and everyone that plays him is too
>>145458142
Not him but holy fuck are you serious? How do yall take this shit so seriously? Just play another character then lmeo who asks beforehand what character someone plays for fightcade games?
>>145458145
>daigoYou stand correct
I need you Akiha
>>145458186
I would not play a casual round of mvc2 if I kow my opponent picks the top tier tem.
>>145458142
>>145457945
lmao what a scrub
>>145458259
ITS FIGHTCADE NIGGA BAKA
What the fuck did Capcom do to resident evil
>>145458283
You play him.
>>145458365
sorry i left my oven on g2g
>>145458362
Looks like Silent Hill now.
>>145458362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gc0ccsTHNM
Made it better?
>look for re 7 trailer
>max video has 40k views while normal trailer has 9k views
>>145458424
/fgg/ still the master at dodging. You can not dodge what you can not see!
>>145458362
I don't know, but RE7 might be an actual horror game now
>>145458561
I never thought of that game as horror. I mean that shit was cheesy as fuck when it came out with the live action stuff and "Jill sandwich"
>>145458253
That hairstyle is stupid and gay
>>145458362
>capcom makes re too actiony
>fans complain
>capcom listens but goes way too far into horror now looks like silent hill
>sfv shown
>chun is way too much marvel
>fans complain
>capcom listens but goes way too much into the direction of cripple mashing
>>145458667
its cute
>>145458625
There is another trailer without the tape-1 thing which was sorted above that for me.
>>145458708
I think people just wanted it to go back to the style of the first three games. Instead we got an AAA Amnesia clone.
>>145458786
Capcom has a problem with the good middle groud these days.
>>145458667
You are stupid and gay too
>>145458786
This.
I just wanted a good mix of slower paced
action, horror, adventure and the classic RE characters and cheese.
Amnesia/Outlast/Slender clone is just about the last fucking thing I ever wanted RE to turn into.
RE5 and 6 were amazing action games no matter how you feel about the other aspects. They had actual gameplay.
RE7 is going to be a fucking walking simulator with next to no gameplay
It wouldn't surprise me if they chose to go this route because it's much cheaper. Notice how they didn't even show their new engine Panta Rhei or Deep Down? Capcom fucked up immensely and are probably barely getting by on MH and RE money. Only reason DR4 exists is because of MS.
>>145459074
>Only reason DR4 exists is because of MS.
Weren't most of the series entry funded by ms anyway?
>revelator just came out
>uniel on pc soon
>kof xiv in a few monthshopefully on pc too
>tekken 7 at the start of 2017
feels gud
>>145459074
I said it before and I say it again. Capcom is only 2-3 years from being in the exact state Konami is right now.
>>145459259
Everything's gonna be alright.
>>145459021
Stupid and gay post of the day
>>145459074
>Panta Rhei
Phanta Rhei has to be dead. I don't think any of the Japanese companies planned for:
>complexity of modern game development in a cross platform way
>how much sense it makes to use Unreal Engine instead
UE4 is just going to be used for everything from this point on. Custom engines will only be for AAAAAA games with studios that have unlimited funding (Naughty Dog, Sony Santa Monica, Squeenix) that can afford to have 4+ year development cycles
>>145458667
Tsundere withouth twintails is like a fighting game without jumping
>>145459820
She doesn't usually wear twintails, that scene is the only time she has them.
Was a new soul calibur announced?
Akuma is a terrible character to start off with if you're not well versed with 3s, isn't he?
>>145459896
That is why it is so precious, she finally let's her go and be herself
>>145459980
Any day now!
>>145459980
yes but it's a QTE game with dating sim elements
>>145460039
3S is called 3S because it got 3 viable characters. Evil Ryu is not one of them.
>>145460039
Yes because:
>worst health in the game
>lots of moves and options that you need to be familiar with
>no EX moves (I don't know whether thats an advantage or a disadvantage actually but whatever)
Start with Ken or Ryu but preferably Ken.
>>145460181
Meh I'm doing decently fine with akuma and having a hell of a lot of fun. I'll just keep getting wrecked untill I get better at the game
>>145460098
Nice, I wanna take Voldo on a long walk on the beach
>>145460142
Not really. Outside of Chun being S++++, there are a lot of characters that are decent enough to be viable. Yeah, Ken and Yun are extremely good. But you can fuck shit up with lots of characters, so stop spreading FUD
>>145460303
t. jwong
>>145460246
>Meh I'm doing decently fine with akuma and having a hell of a lot of fun
Alright man, whatever suits you. Make sure to abuse akuma tatsus all day erry day
>>145460303
how is Chun S+++++ if she gets her shit slapped by Yun?
>>145460254
>a-anon, does this codpiece make my butt look big~?
>>145459074
I never got the appeal of the original games. They were just bad Alone in the Dark clones that replaced the Lovecraft mythos with zombies.
Only thing they had going for them was the cheesy acting.
>>145460392
Isn't heavy minus 5 on block? It really doesn't seem like it, but it says so when I look up his frame data. Also says light tatsu is 2 frames startup, but I still can't punish lots of stuff with it, so again, it really doesn't seem like it's correct.
tl;dr what's up with 3s' frame data?
>>145460303
If you only play on fightcade or against casuals offline you're probably never gonna face Chun Li.
>>145460181
Akuma lets you get away with a lot of stupid shit like tatsus since it's almost impossible to red parry them online.
Tekken 7 now got the Good OST tag on steam. I checked sfv and saw "Arcade" as tag, that has to be trolling.
>>145460438
It's not unheard of for there to be one or two characters who counter the absolute top tier. Like Akuma killed Sagat in vanilla SF4.
>>145460546
kek
>>145460486
There are way too many people who love shitty b movies as long as they have violence. RE ws exactly that but in videogame form. They even hired actors to act for cutscenes for maximum b movie flavour.
>>145460546
Have they even released the soundtrack yet? I'm an euro so I like trashy disco music.
>>145460438
She has one somewhat hard counter until she builds enough meter to rape Yun I guess. I think overall she's still far better than the rest of the characters
Are there any guides on parrying in neutral? All I can find is parry compilations and stuff.
Do you just kind of stutter around mixing it up between parrying low and high?
everything about FFXV looks fucking stupid
How do I get good with Jam?
>>145460807
>Are there any guides on parrying in neutral?
What did he mean by this?
>>145460887
I don't know, I think the protagonist being a monotone bishounen with an anime sword is a breath of fresh air, as is the entire game world looking like it's made of fucking plastic.
Jesus Christ fuck Nomura.
>>145460931
How can you not understand what I mean by that?
>>145460751
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtO6DK-Pa4JoNnwunI3LP9rkbSWDJqQzZ
No offical release yet as far as I know.
>>145461113
What game are you even talking about? Soul Calibur 2?
>>145460807
Just use your typical sf footsies of waggling the stick left and right while mashing your win all neutral move.
>>145461194
Who the fuck plays soul calibur 2?
It's obviously 3s and you know that, you're just grasping for straws to make it seem like you don't have reading comprehensions
>>145461113
I dunno what you mean by 'in neutral'
>>145461304
Do you mean parrying a poke?
>>145443879
Alex's standing HK is punishable on regular hit, -4 IIRC
>>145461304
I still do, it's by far one of the most fun fighting games of all
I miss LTG's streams...
>>145460519
Too many animation frames leads to weird frame data
>>145461342
>>145461367
Yeah parrying in neutral. When someone doesn't just present you a gift to parry aka a special or a super of which is all I could find on youtube. Parrying when you're both fishing for a hit
>>145460807
Parrying works the same way whiff punishing does
If you try to just parry at random you are going to get destroyed
>>145461439
Get a trip.
>>145461537
I assume it's really just reads tbH. You can't react to the startup of a mk when there's a certain amount of time you have to press parry before the move hits to actually parry. It seems impossible, so I'll discard of this tip
>>145461529
Im a scrub and not really a fighting game player so I still don't get what you mean by 'in neutral'
This might be bad advice but parry on reaction, don't guess unless its on wake up and even then the best thing to do most of the time is block. Parry on wake up if your opponent is being obvious.
>>145461529
If you are in a shoto's cr. mk range tap down because if they press a button it'll probably be that
>>145461820
Yeah that's what I'm currently doing and it usually works pretty well. Any idea on how long the "parry cooldown" is? Like how long you have to wait to be able to parry again?
>>145461820
This sounds like terrible advice. Why would you try to parry in neutral at all?
>>145461876
>cooldown
What?
>>145461820
>>145461876
the blind leading the blind
>>145462012
Start fucking reading my posts in full before asking. I actually prepared for this by explaining what I meant by cooldown.
>>145460887
>>145461069
I haven't paid attention to it since last year but I distinctly remember how wet many on this site were for it and hot it was the saviour of Final Fantasy etc.
What changed
