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Is this the real life edition?

Previous thread: >>145030697

>Skill Tree Beta Calculator (might be out of date)
http://payday.drakendomain.net/

>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (think Frank found a new maintainer)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://beta.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (going to be out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (definitely out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>(NEW) Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
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first for pdg-tan lewds
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>>145411542
>>>/r/
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Just traded someone two of those Pathfinder codes for the Humble Mask Pack and the Golden Grin.
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Reminder to not believe Overkills lies.
Microtransactions aren't gone.
Nothing has changed.
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>>145411853
So glad Almir gave me the Humble Mask code. He's such a bro. ;)
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>>145411853
>9mm tard pipe gun does 70 damage

Did Overkill just stop trying?
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>>145411853
Is there pictures of these masks other than the tiny thumbnail on the humble bundle page?
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>>145412132
And before the weapon rebalance you could easily get 80 with the right compensator and still have good accuracy. Now you have to use silencers and get skills
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Stopped playing after the drill jew bullshit, is all the crap finally gone and the game is playable again? Are shotguns still shit?
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>>145413501
It's not gone. Drills and safes still exist. You can still buy drills.
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>>145413501
nothing has changed
everything has chains
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>>145413501
microtransactions are still there

shotguns are the best they've been since beta
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what if joker was a heister :3
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what if seinfeld was a heister
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>>145411112
>heisting
>in those shoes
disgusting
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>Your health starts and cannot go over 15%
Thanks
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>>145416108
jery steal ipad
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>>145417604
not doing 400+ damage with a single bullet.
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>>145416108

>Jerry: "Wwwhhhots the deal with these safety deposit boxes? They're not very safe if you can just pick'em right open!"
>George: "JERR-EH! JERR-EH! I THINK I CAWT HIV FROM THAT GIRL I BEEN HAVIN' SEX WIT!"
>Jerry: "Relax, Georgie boy. I'll put down a Medical Kit and it'll be all better."
>Elaine: "That bank teller couldn't give me an orgasm!"
>Jerry: "Didja try having sex with the janitor? I think Kramer tied him up."
>Kramer: "NIGGER! NIGGER! THE JANITOR IS A NIGGER! GGRAHHUHGGPGHGHH" *has epileptic seizure*
>George: "Omigawd! Jerr-eh! Drwap the Medical Kit already! Kramer is dyin' and he has the rawket launcher! WE GOTTA HAVE THE RAWKET LAUNCHER!"
>Jerry: "All right already!"
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they should put in a gay heister after the orlando shooting...
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>>145420369
We already have Houston, Sokol, Clover, Bonnie and Sydney... you want another?
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>>145420369
Bonnie
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which girl heister is the most likely to want to get dped
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>>145422090
Clover is a hideous slag so she'd probably be very flattered to find two guys willing to bang her at the same time.
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>>145422659
>clover
>ugly
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>>145422090
Sydney. Between the "notice me daddy" tattoos and the "secure my legacy" maskup lines, shes just the kind of attention-seeking damaged personality to be all about DP and ass to mouth. Not because she enjoys it, but because the infamy of being that girl that's into DP and the way people talk about her legitimizes her deep set self loathing.
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>>145422813
>Posting crayola fan art to try and pretend this is dickable.
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>>145423035
I don't play this game sober so it's not like it matters
also her voice is cute
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>>145423201
Her voice is just as disgusting as her face. Sokol sounds more feminine than she does.
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>>145423405
I never said sokol wouldn't be better to dick than clover
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>>145423035
Admittedly she hasn't got much of a chin, but you could do way worse. Personally I think the games lighting engine is most to blame for her looking like she has melted cheese for skin.
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>>145423035
She'd be cute if she smiled.
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>>145423565
>but you could do way worse
Not really. She's not even the kind of ugly that can be cute and endearing. Just completely hideous.
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What's your infamy level, /pdg/?
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>>145424486
zero
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>>145424486
12?
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>>145424486
2 and I'll probably push for 3 before I get tired of grinding for XP
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>>145424486
17-19. Cant remember which.
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>>145424486
13

don't care enough to go further
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>>145424486
XXV-100

Got it a year back shortly after it came out. Then abandoned the game.
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>>145424486
25-100
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>>145425910
>>145426057
Is it really worth going to 25 since it's just xp bonuses past ~19? I don't see much point in it.
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>>145426751
Not like you have anything better to do.
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>>145426751
Just wanted to beat the game at the time.
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>>145426857
i have a lot more fun seeing how fast you can get through on DW while getting as many bags as possible, mostly
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>>145426751
no real point unless you care about achievements and/or masks
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>>145426751
Helps you unlock the new perk deck if you own all characther packs
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I distinctly remember rising in infamy no longer burned your spending cash after a point back when 2.0 was new. Is that still a thing?
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>>145428335
Should be that you stop burning spending after infamy 5 but I haven't gone infamous in a long time so I couldn't tell you.
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>>145428335
Yep. After 5th infamy, going infamous is free.
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>>145428498
What is that gif from?
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>>145429091
Little witch.
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>>145429091
Little Witch Academia, lighthearted short film with a longer second film. Cute art.
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>>145429141
>>145429298
Looks nice, I'll have to check it out
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>>145342215
>>145343825
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Dentist Appointment! (dentist_4_jobs)
- The First Line (the_first_line)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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Is is possible to make Anarchist usable with ICTV?
because I really want it to work with it and not be shit
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>>145435282
Use Armorer. Anarchist regen with ICTV is shit.
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>>145424486
0-100. I won't prestige because I don't want my character holding up a card like an edgelord.
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>>145437757
so rather than looking like one you became one
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>>145435573
>>145435282
Don't use Armorer, it's literally one of the worst perk decks
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>>145424486
V-100

I don't see a reason to actually go further than that until they actually add something to the future levels of infamy to make it worth it.
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>>145439894
how is 35% more armour terrible?
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>>145441147
because in DW minmaxers minds it doesn't have a form of health regen therefore it is shit
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>>145441389
well, that is understandable. but if you just get Hostage Taker you can use Armourer to rocket the ICTV up to crazy levels. thanks for explaining that, anyway
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>>145439894
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>145441389
>Using Bezerker
>Using Frenzy
>Caring about health at all.

Armor is the new Health.
You're lucky I still bring doctor bags at all.
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I somehow can't imagine ron perlman screaming
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>Overkill disables safe drops, causing people to buy them at higher and higher prices and for drills to start selling even more.
>overkill has changed 505 gone they no more jew :))))

>Overkill announces they're releasing two separate paid DLCs on the same day again.
>duh of course they always do that dumb poorfag
Trashly must've given the posters over there brain damage swinging around that ban hammer because you really can't miss the irony in this.
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>>145443481
well, if Bain can talk to the crew when they're on the job, I'm sure Rust could use the same earpiece or whatever the fuck.
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>>145443660
>GGC + Sokol
>The Bomb + Dragan
>The Diamond + Clover
>Point Break + Bodhi

Paid two-pack DLCs have always been a thing, only Bodhi was the super special exception. Doesn't make them less jew. But citing the biker packs as OVK getting worse is retarded.
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>THAT GUY THAT PAYS +9 DOLLARYDOOS FOR 3 MASKS
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>>145444242
>Paid two-pack DLCs have always been a thing
I never claimed otherwise.
>citing the biker packs as OVK getting worse
I never claimed that.

learn2read.
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>>145444507
>That guy that pays money to Overkill at all.
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habbening
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>>145443660
>>145444542
Crimefest 2 and drills was a step back. Getting rid of them is step forward. Everything is where it used to be, so I really don't see what you're saying here.
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>>145435282
Anarchist's regen is too slow on ICTV, you'd be completely dependant on Bullseye stacks.
I'd just suggest using the LBV because you can get ICTV-esque armor values with good regen, high mobility and if you want to build it that way, even a pocket full of dodge to further mitigate damage.
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>>145444721
you're a little late...
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>>145441147
you can get significantly more health with other perk decks or both health and armor, plus either better armor regen or actual health regen
armor regenerates but the final hit blocks you from any damage anyway unless it's from a sniper
an increase in armor is typically not worth it unless it's moving up from a suit to a vest or a vest to the ICTV because the amount you get extra isn't worth the tradeoff of another perk deck
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>>145444721
>The Trouble Comes Comes When
Overkill quality like usual.
>>145444764
Except they did not "get rid of them". They discontinued them and are still making money off them right now. Probably more than they were making when they first came out. They didn't make a step forward, they made a side step. Which isn't even the point I was making by the way. The original point of my post which you apparently completely missed was people were praising Overkill for changing when they didn't and then defending Overkill by claiming they're just holding the status quo.

I'll repeat my original point again since you seem to have brain difficulties. People are claiming Overkill has changed in response to MT criticism, and they're also claiming Overkill isn't doing anything new in response to two paid DLCs in one day criticism.
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>>145424486
VIII cause I'm too lazy to move up.
I've only got 1k hours too.
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>>145445184
to be fair if I have a drunk friend stumbling towards a road that I don't want to die and I'm too drunk to help him myself I'd be happy if he stepped parallel to the road
even if he's not further away from taffic than before at least it's better than stepping closer
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So I haven't played since the crimefest shitshow, I heard about the new changes so I'm getting back into Payday 2 again.
What were the major changes?

Is dodge still broke?

Are pistols and revolvers still broke?

What's op nowadays?
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>>145445685
I hate this meme
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>>145445663
I wouldn't compare it to a drunk friend stumbling into a road. It's more like a politician changing the subject when posed with a question he can't come up with a good lie for.
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>>145445849
>meme
>implying nobody stopped playing then
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>>145445920
to be fair if I have a drunk politician friend that gets asked a loaded question that I don't want him to answer and I'm too drunk to help him myself I'd be happy if he side stepped the question
even if he's not further from the debate than before at least it's better than ruining his credibility
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So I haven't played since the game was released, I heard about the new changes and so I'm getting into Payday 2 for the first time.
What were the major changes?

What is dodge?

Are pistols and revolvers broke?

What's op nowadays?
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>>145446070
>Overkill
>Credibility
Also why are you trying to push this drunk prefix. The only thing Overkill is under the influence of is greed.
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>>145444673

The humble bundle money goes to charity, not Overkill.
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>>145446307
STILL OVER 9 FUCKIN DOLLARS FOR 3 GODDAMN MASKS, EVEN IF "IT’S BECAUSE PEOPLE IS BUYING IT" SHIT IS ON THE "OVER THE AVERAGE" TIER YOU DAMN JEWS
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Do I lose the community weapons and other stuff if I stop following the Payday community?
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>>145446712
why would you do that goy ;)
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>>145446307
>implying giving money to worthless starving children in Biafra is any better
Only winning move is not to pay
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>>145446712
Yes. Sometimes they relock for me when my internet connection gets interrupted, so unfollowing them would probably do the same thing.
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>>145446943
Seems plausible. Free stuff is nice, but I don't like how much room the news take on my feed.
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>>145447206
>feed
Do people actually use the community feed?
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>>145446124
>since the game was released
dude that's like a completely different game now
everything is op
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>>145439894
I play Armorer with shotguns and every damage buff I can get. I run around killwhoring like an complete retard and I don't even get to activate Berzerker every heist.
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>>145447417
Ladies and gentlemen he took the bait
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/l-lewd/
help me im bad at video games
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103th for cute cloaker unit when ?
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so does basic aggressive reload, aced lock'n'load and aced blood thirst stack?
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>>145450959
yep.
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>>145451016
Good to know, just need to figure out what other skills would be fun for a yakuzerker build. I got as far as http://payday.drakendomain.net/?15=b&16=b&18=b&24=a&25=a&26=a&27=a&28=b&30=a&50=a&51=a&53=b&54=b&72=b&85=a&86=a&88=a&89=a&90=b (replace camouflage with second wind) but I couldn't think of any other skill that would work wellf or this, any ideas?
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>>145446307
I was gonna call you out but it's nice to see that Twitch is the only one jewing it up with that bundle
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>>145452702
He's lying.
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>that feel when joining a nightclub lobby
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>>145452921
HAHAHAHA
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So who's hyped for the E3 booth ?
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>>145454187
did OVerkill mean that its just a sneak peak of the biker shit at the E3 booth or is it released at the same time as the E3 booth?
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>>145454187
>hype
>Overkill
Does not compute
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>>145435282
>>145435573
I've been running ICTV Anarchist and I feel almost release grinder levels of invincible so I don't know who's having the unusual experience here
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Is the new shotgun going to be a primary or secondary?
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Let me tell you all right now in this moment since you all seem to be very confused
All of your builds are shit
For one simple reason
They're not maniac shotgunners with ICTV
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>>145458332
Hey man I can't do shotgun builds for every build that shit would be boring

I run maniac ICTV with the Repeater and that tree that makes me buff as fuck with jokers and hostages
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>>145458332
/pdg/ used to say that builds don't matter on overkill
now the same is true for dw
maniac shotgunner with ICTV is the best tho
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>>145459460
man, I kind of actually want the humble masks on account of being completionist like that. but over 9 bucks and there's literally nothing else in the bundle I give even half a shit about.

This might be the worst humble bundle ever.
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>>145461219
9 bucks is what I typically spend at lunch.
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How hard is it to cheat in enough perk points to get all the decks maxed? Fuck this grindy bullshit.
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>>145462732
Stop sucking at video games
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>>145462732
Go infamous, the lower your level is the easier it is to get perk points, the conversion rate takes less exp
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Quit earlier this year, how does the new skill trees work now? Is every single weapon still shit besides deagle?
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>>145461753
and if I got a sandwich with those masks, I'd be fine with it.
instead I get mask-equivalent content in a bunch of games I down own or play, beta builds of like 3 games that don't sound interesting, and psychonauts, which I already own. twice.

maybe if I actually saw a larger picture of them and thought I might really use those masks.
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>>145463320
Fucking look it up on YouTube or just reinstall and find out
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>Install DMCWO
>Bulletproof is up the 'Sniper' tech tree
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Just made a stealth build with new skill trees and there's still 40+ points left. Why did they fuck up...

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mjl:ekl:tIKL:gABCDEFjl:ff:ibcdea:::
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Do you think Dallas in game lives up to Dallas in all the live action stuff?
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>500 megabytes to replace that thing everyone skips with something else everyone is going to skip

FUCK YOU OVERKILL.
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>>145468076
this is a silly question. Dallas in game portrayed by Simon Kerr's voice and Dallas portrayed by Eric Etebari in live-action are basically two completely different people/personalities.
If you know anything about Eric, the kind of person he is, the kinds of roles he prefers to play etc, it's plain to see that Eric doesn't really understand Dallas' original character.
Dallas' PD2 model is supposed to be Eric's face, but the resemblance is barely there at all and I think that's for the best.
Eric thinks Dallas is suave and sophisticated for the most part, but in-game Dallas is more dorky.
There isn't anything to "live up to" when Eric doesn't have a clear understanding of who he was trying to portray in the first place.
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anyone able to look through files to see if there's some hidden e3 masks this year?
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Everytime I try to shoot my character just uses melee, what the fuck
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>>145469589
nvm I got it to work
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Trying to get into the game again, but the new talent tree updates seem overwhelming.

All the guides are out-dated or confusing.
Anyone know some good builds/guides to a good loud build with the new updates?

I am only lvl 60 tho (which is one of the reasons most guides wont help, as they are infamy focused)
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>>145473183
You can do your previous lvl 100 build with just lvl 60, that's how easy it is
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>>145473759

But i cant follow the builds.... i have no idea what works and what doesnt, and i dont wanna be a useless twat to my team.

Sub trees are now stand-alone.
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>>145474041
Just use your head, you incompetent buffoon. Want ICTV, go up the ICTV skill tree. Want shotguns, go up the shotgun skill tree. Want to do dodge, go for sneaky bastard/low blow. Want inspire, grab inspire.
And you're afraid of being a useless twat play on Overkill--literally, not figuratively, impossible to lose unless the entire lobby is garbage.
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>>145474041
each sub tree is basically focused on just one thing that's loosely related to the old roles that the whole tree used to be about
I'd suggest looking at the top skills in each sub tree and then try to find a mix of those that you'd like
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>>145466906
>mods

Kill yourself
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>>145467746
>has points left over to buy even more shit on top of stelf
>calls it a fuck up

You're like a woman. Even if you were handed a million dollars you'd find something wrong with the money
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>http://paydaycrimewar.com

Franchise is going fucking nuclear
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>>145473183
Jesus Christ you're hopeless

Just uninstall and fuck off
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>>145475573
>Car-4 everywhere
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>>145475373
>>145475573
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>>145475251
Thats the point, why giving so many points if you dont have ANYWHERE to put them to. Like isnt this game supposed not to be piss easy? Like you are given 10000 points while you might not need half of that. Its ridiculous
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>>145475872
>don't have anywhere to put them to

Bullshit. Just start clicking random skills you fucking literal retard
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>>145475091
>shitting on DMC

I bet you think the melee overhaul mod is cheating too.
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>>145476051
jeez Johnny, I dont think you understand me. Theres nothing I NEED or WANT to put my points to, game should not give you more than you need to complete something it should give you just the right amount or even less for higher difficulties.
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>>145476224
kys, modshitter
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>>145476316
>>145476436
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>>145475373
mfw everyone is using Amcar in this game.
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>>145476629
savage
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>>145476629
>downloading 3rd party modifications so a game will cater to your retarded playstyle isn't autism
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>>145475384
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>>145477468
>mfw drum mags will never be on a good weapon
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>>145477468
Now only if it was good
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>>145476817
wow it's almost like that's exactly what mods are for

i bet you're a consoleshitter
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>>145477468
>>145477990
>>145477964
>63 accuracy max

wew lads
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>>145478008
so you admit you have autism and need mods to cater to your retarded playstyle then?
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>>145477468
infinite ammo, 10-20 damage, LMG-tier recoil, damage falloff, y/n
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>>145477468
it's fucking garbage
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day 2 where
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>>145477084
what a cute dog
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>>145476316
>I have exactly one build I ever want to use
>that one build has all the points it needs
>there aren't any utility skills like higher movement or improved criticals that I want, therefore no one should want them

Jesus, I know we're usually joking when we call someone autistic, but goddamn.
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>>145477084
WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE
IM NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU ANYTHING
FUCK OFF THE DOG DISH FOOD IS FOR MY DOG NOT YOU!!!
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>>145424486
V-97
Just a few more heists and a couple million more and I'll be a little bit closer to getting those retarded ass infamy masks
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>>145478904
The balaclava is a good mask you fuck
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>>145477468
>Requires AR skills
Truly a thrill
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvwhtbN1FhM

reminder wolf has the best pager lines
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>>145479767
reminder wolf will never get any new lines
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>>145479767
>draining the mongoose
I still don't know what this is
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>>145479767
I just realized how much Wolf sounds like Joel
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>>145480057
it needs draining
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>>145480057

benis
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>>145479767
hoxtinator

the hox
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>2 new paid DLC packs coming
>another fucking e3 mask pack
Thank goodness I have the dlc unlocker.
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>>145483827
Jew detected
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>>145483902
fuck off almir
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>>145446307
oi m8e got any of them mask packs for us innit crikey
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>>145483995
>stealing is ok
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>>145484495
>stealing isn't okay
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>>145484572
it isn't
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>>145484638
>stealing isn't okay
>in a game about stealing
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>>145484702
>stealing in real life is ok because i play a video game about stealing

doesn't hold up too well
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>>145484847
But I'm not stealing anything real, it's all digital and in the game. :^)
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>>145485569
it's stealing
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>Changelog
>Replaced the Sydney trailer with the Biker Packs trailer

>Patch Size:
>481,3MB

ALMIR YOU FUCK
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>>145485759
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>>145476316
I see what you mean. Might as well do away with trees altogether and go the PDTH route if they're going to give you everything. The only difference between my stealth build and loud build is 2 non-aced skills. Whats even the point in that.
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>>145411112
>SKILLGUIDE STILL FUCKING SAYS "(going to be out of date)"
FUCK OP
IT'S BEEN NEARLY 2 WEEKS
GET YOUR SHIT
AND PUT IT TOGETHER
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>>145491169
exactly, theres no commitment at all. No sacrifice, you get EVERYTHING and ANYTHING you want
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>>145491758
If somebody makes an updated guide, I can try to put it in a new OP if I get to make a new OP.

But as it is, the skill trees are still too new and we're waiting for OVK to slap down their "balance changes" before doing anything.
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>>145492524
just outright change it to (out of date)
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>>145492690
Oh then blame the guys making the new threads.
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>>145491169
>>145492268
Fuck off, don't enable that retard's autism.
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>>145494990
whats up shill are you able to complete DW with this easy mode after the patch? I bet you were playing beta since they enabled it
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>>145495336
>shill
>>>/v/
>>>/pol/
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>>145494990
the game is really fucking easy now though, if you deny that i think you are being really disingenuous

or you probably thought Very Hard was too much for you before the patch
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>>145495437
I never even lurk these familia
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Are there any DW viable melee builds now?
I have all DLC.
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>>145495437
I hope you realize that shill is an actual word.
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Is crew chief worth using? 30% increased survivability and 20% increased stamina for the entire team seems pretty solid.
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reminder this is literally the only stealth build you need unless you go something different like sensor tripmine build

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mhjlnpr:eklNQr:tIKL:gABCDEFjKloPqr:fqr:ibcdea:pB8:::

you can give or take the brawler skills, right side silent killer skills, aced inner pockets, and likely the aced ammo bags though
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>>145497208
It's not that crew chief is awful in it's own right, it's just that there are other much better perk decks that increase everybody's individual survivability much more than crew chief does for the whole team
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>>145434725
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I WIll Take With Impunity (kosugi_3)
- Target Practice: Melee Weapon (melee_35_kills)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>145498954
i love you side jobs bot
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So what's this about the game no longer being p2w? Jumped ship as soon as they nerfed everything and released crates.

What did they change to un fuck this game.
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>>145502680
>game no longer being p2w
never happened, go to bed
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>>145502974
>M308 best primary
>Loco/Judge/White Streak best secondary
>Muscle one of the best perk decks
>LITERALLY a free grenade

All free baby ;)
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>>145502974

Im talking about like crates providing uber buffs as well as them destroying all the weapons
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>>145497208
>>145497423
Crew Chief needs more bonuses.
Like increased domination effectiveness or reducing Inspire cooldown.
Or something like that.
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post yfw you get downed after spending 20 minutes getting all the loot on shadow raid
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>>145505124
get good
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>>145505558
but anon, i got all the loot on shadow raid, i just got unlucky when going down the sewer
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>>145503519
The uber buffs were never really a thing other than the Legendary skins which had absurd stats. Rest of the skins were basically an extra stat boost or two per skin, and OVK sort of dropped everything to appease everyone with the free stat boost system before going back to peddling Point Break.
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>>145505619
>downed while solo'ing Shadow Raid
>get "unlucky" while going down a ladder
You have zero excuse when you're host.
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>>145505840
unlucky is just another way of saying i miscalculated how i could manage going down the ladder

i didn't say anybody else or the game was at fault for this, so why do you have to be so defensive about it?
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>>145506193
it's 4chan mate, gotta talk as much shit as possible to fit in
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>>145506674
i understand, friend
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>>145502680
>p2w
>needing dlc to win
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>>145503519
>Im talking about like crates providing uber buffs

I see you jumped ship before looking at the actual numbers of the "uber buffs"

So in light of that, listen to this:
The game is literally pay 2 win now. The game now sells "boosts". For every dollar you spend in-game, you get a permanent +4 boost to whatever stat you want on whatever weapon. You can literally max out each stat on any and all weapons you choose, so long as you pay real money to do it. The stats are only good for 30 days though, after which they expire and you have to "reboost" them again.

And also you can outright buy levels and infamy now, with real money.

So yes, the game is literally pay 2 win. You may as well uninstall and never play ever again. You've already shown us how you're entirely too smart for this game.
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>>145506193
>i miscalculated how i could manage going down the ladder

You are not a very bright individual.

There is nothing to miscalculate about pointing yourself at a ladder and going up and down until you are at the top or bottom.
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anyone want to play deathwish
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>cloakers can down you when they are more than a yard away
Why is this acceptable?
Do they clap their feet together and create a sonic boom that knocks you over?
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>>145507646
not with you
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>>145507771
>Letting them anywhere near you

git gud
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>>145507441

Its not about being too smart, it's about OVK turning their back on us with XD MICROTRANSACTIONS when they said they'd never do that.

Dont be such an asshat
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>>145507597
Except the ladders in PD2 don't work that way. You have to throw yourself onto the ladder as opposed to climbing down from where it starts like in literally every other game. Defending Overkills inability to properly code something every developer except Bethesda knows how to do is disgusting. Fuck off shill.
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>>145507932
Don't be such an overly-sensitive thin-skinned hysterical cunt obsessing about her first-world problems.
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>>145507921
>not modding the game to spawn only cloakers
I'd like to see you try to not let any one of the thousands of cloakers get within range.
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I shitpost for /kspg/
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>>145508014
>You have to throw yourself onto the ladder as opposed to climbing down from where it starts like in literally every other game.
This matters if you're *NOT* the host. Hence, >>145505840

You can definitely still walk up and down ladders without throwing yourself off a cliff.
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>>145507597
i'd say that nearly every person who plays shadow raid a lot does the thing where they go down a ladder by dropping down and catching the ladder mid fall, since ladders in the game don't really work as much as pointing yourself at it and going up/down, especially in the sewer's case where you have to go down through a hole

it is possible to miscalculate on the specific ladder near the spawn, since it's a tube entrance with more room that allows you to fall next to the ladder. most of the time when i play shadow raid, i don't use that entrance so if on some occasions i do, it's easier to fall down.
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>>145508014
While the ladders are indeed shitty, once I figured out exactly how to "stick" to them, I never fell down them ever again.

You just don't want to admit you are bad at the game.
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>>145507932
>turning their back on us
m8 Overkill has never been facing us to begin with. If you seriously think Microtransactions was the turning point for them and not the $100+ dollars of DLC, hype train, and constant lying, you're dumber than a bag of hammers.
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>>145508238
>since ladders in the game don't really work as much as pointing yourself at it and going up/down

Except, they do.

>does the thing where they go down a ladder by dropping down and catching the ladder mid fall

To save themselves maybe ONE SECOND, whereas if they just "stuck" themselves on the ladder and stayed on it until they were at the top/bottom, they wouldn't have downed themselves after a 20 minute run in Shadow Raid :^)
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>>145508252
i don't think a person is bad at the game because they didn't learn exactly how to stick to a ladder mid fall. especially considering i do do that a lot and the specific entrance i'm talking about has more room for error than others.

>>145508482
the problem is, i do that trick thing most times without error and the error in how i did the ladder thing was not remembering or realizing the fact there's more room for error in the entrance i used.

i'm not even saying it's the game's or anyone else's fault, so i don't know why you're being so up in arms about it
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>>145508725
>so i don't know why you're being so up in arms about it

Because you came on here to bitch about your mistake, I pointed out you made an easily avoidable mistake, and you're getting all defensive about your mistake you obviously aren't going to learn from.

I hope you remember this next time you make the same mistake and end up downed at the bottom of a ladder again. But you won't.
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>>145508725
see
>>145508973

BTFO
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Reminder the only people stupid enough to pretend Overkills ladder codes are okay are shills.
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>>145508982
i think you're acting like you're trying to teach me about this game like you're some troubled father and i'm the unruly teenaged kid.

i know my mistake, and i've said it many times that it was my fault! i got defensive because you insulted my intelligence, friend. i don't know why you're taking the role of acting like i'm some kind of idiot for talking the game which this general is about

i think i know why this general is dying now...
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>tfw pubbies keep going down in Shadow Raid because they keep failing basic and "trick" jumps
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Behead those who support Overkill
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>>145509171
i don't think these people are shills.

they're just being a bit rude because i made a post they don't like, but what they do like is arguing on 4chan and insulting people.

it is ok. this is a free website, you don't have to imply they think overkill are any less jewish than they already are.
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>>145509475
They're defending Overkill. They're shills.
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>>145509230
>>145509475
If you didn't reply to the standard git gud response with I WAS JUST UNLUCKY MAN, NOT MY FAULT, you could've avoided giving the other guy all that ammo.
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>>145509681
i think that's true. it's just a difference in how we define unlucky, i know it's my fault. my original post wasn't even about it being anybody's fault....
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>shotgun accuracy boost
>decreases accuracy by 4
???
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>>145509681
Fuck off shill.
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