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Cookie cutter builds:
>Consult thread before using
http://pastebin.com/zfAghE2H

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Can I play the game now?
New players are restricted :
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=430

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
cute (Hiraku)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
NiceBoat (Tello)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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>>145329818
Prev: >>145275643
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L E W D
E
W
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I LOVE TALT.
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4th for Doppel best DPS in the game.
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>>145329852
CUTE
THAUMS
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>>145330010
Lewd is forbidden and illegal and wrong and a sin and very bad and you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Uhmmm
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>>145329818
Lewd has been theoretically proven to equal cute. Cute is lewd and lewd is cute.

Lewd is accepted as it was one of its founding principles of this general.

You cannot deny the facts or the proof.

Lewd is here to stay as long as there is cute.
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Lewd OUT!
Cute IN!
Boys OUT!
Girls IN!
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8 levels to go until retirement!
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>>145330380
No. Lewd != cute.
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>>145330380
WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!!
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What is the real excuse for why they dont just synchronize the patches? This happens in literally every Korean game.

Somebody joked that they code in different languages
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>>145330596
Pure laziness, lack of empathy inherent among most asians, and most importantly no publisher to light a fire under their asses to get work done like they have in Korea.
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>>145330596
Because something working in Korean version doesn't mean it will work here for various reason.
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>>145330596
Why bother patching when it's a broken mess? Let kTOS test stuff before we transfer them over so we'll just copy paste it.

t. STAFF_MAX
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>>145330791
but isnt it more work to have itos running on a lower version? It's like running windows vista vs windows 7.

Isn't it just easier to copy paste?
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Who is the cutest goy!
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Is Lolinyaa here?
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>Sleeping gas gives your character a retarded face

Pretty funny that the face still stays after sleep is gone
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>>145330863
>Let kTOS test stuff
Oh my god you actually typed that like you believed it.

Like they're just testing it in the korean game because we're the customers who matter or something, right?
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Some skills have been rebalanced in PvP :
Warlock
- Pole of Agony:
- Damage has been reduced by 50%
- Dark Theurge:
- Damage has been reduced by 50%

RIP
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11347877.23354552.15243541.152535.112e3f5a65.152535

Thoughts on this? I really really really want to play a cataphract with hook.
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>>145331109
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>>145330596
Remember when every patch IMC made broke all kinds of shit seemingly unrelated to the patch? They finally realized they couldn't patch without breaking the game.
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>>145331098
here's my retard
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>>145331108
Greetings Savior,

We value our customers from around the world.

Regards,
IMC Staff
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sup, /tosg/

If you play on Orsha, we can have a pre-maintenance meetup at Woods Of Linked Bridges, right at this cozy and comfy campfire! Channel 4, naturally.

See you Monday~
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New player restriction lifted soon! I can feel it! New [spoilers]boys[/spoilers]!
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>>145331109

Kek, Pixel of Agony was already lasting only half of the original time, now it basically does 1/4 of the damage it used to do before. Gravity pole already does less damage than lolipan, I think they finally managed to kill the kinolock omnipotence since even subzero was killed.
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Why are people selling lv 10 templeshooters so cheap? 80 talt is nothing.
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>>145331390
>boys
>not even using ctrl+s
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>>145331381
I'll be there if I remember!
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>>145331381
Orshabro here!

I wonder if we will at least see 5 people showing up ; __ ;
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>>145331563
They won't kill kino unless they nerf raise.
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>>145331581
Lack of market. There are only so many Sorcs and they only need 1-2 temple shooter ever.
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>>145330791
The contrary might also be true in that they are naive self-publishing amateurs with too much sense of guilt. They want to use kToS as testing grounds and wait for the "perfect" feedback before porting, and as such, end up doing nothing.

I'm basing this on the changes to the original EA plan to satisfy the whiners even though the game wasn't ready. Another attempt to make us "happy" was the token price decrease no one asked for.
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>>145331682
Nah, Raise is fine. Every time a kino casts it you can just Reversi it for a free AoE 10 second stun.
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Just got to Sadhu, my original plan was to go Sadhu C2>Druid but flying monsters are making me reconsider.
is it too late to go Bokor then Bokor circle 2 then PD? Will effigy do decent damage at this level until I get to PD?
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>>145331974
Sadhu2 is okay on flying mobs.
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I'm in a fortress!
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>Make wizard
>literally one skill
>long cooldown
>never have any mp

What am I doing wrong or why is Wiz so shitty?
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>>145331098
>>145331192
i can fap to this
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>>145331581
Buy mine then I need to get rid of some.
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>>145332056
You can just ALT A to remove interface, you know
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>>145332056
you call THAT a fort?
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>>145331956
>kino casts it on you
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>>145332114
My Chrono is not for lewding!
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>>145332106
It just is because you either go wiz1 or wiz3.

If you plan to go wiz3 don't spend on earthquake and energy bolt more than one point each. Save points then dump on magic missile and quickcast as soon as you hit rank 3.
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>>145332403
with your mindbreaked face it's now a lewd thing
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>>145332374
Positioning is part of the game, lad. Raise is point blank, if the kino is stupid enough to jump on your then have your team punish him.
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>>145329216
That's pretty neat anon, thanks for answering!
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>>145332114
Do not sexualize the revelator
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>>145332521
Yeah it's not like he'll be full con or anything.
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>>145332652
Retarded girls is my fetish
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>>145332489
Get out of my Christian game.
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>>145332228
TIL
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>>145332728
What about retarded boys?
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>>145331620

just keep an eye on the thread, we'll be stirring up some reminder posts well before hand.
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>>145332728
You are a sick man
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When do you guys want your hats?
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>>145329818
I need to know whose foot is that on the lower left corner now.
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>>145331956

>he does know about the kino 3 thauma 2
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>>145332728
Is it time for grown-up things?
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>>145333146
Pios!
Let's do it when a lot is online!

About 12:00 server time this coming hour perhaps?
Kateen Forest start for meet-up?
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>>145333146
Is it time for hats?!
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>>145333506
Everyone fine with this?
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>>145333648
i'm fine with it, i missed two hats last time
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>>145333146
What if I want you? When do I get that?
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>>145333648
12am server time today or tomorrow?
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Is worth going Swordie 3 for Shinobi? The stick says that Shinobi clones can only use Swordsman skills.

My idea is going Sword > Pelt > Sword 2 > Sword 3 > Hop > Hop 2 > Shinobi
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>>145333828
Think he meant 12 pm server time, so in one hour.
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>>145332467
Get at least 5 in Energy Bolt. It's useful in interrupting your enemy for 1 seconds when you are solo grinding in high level map such as storage.
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>>145333952
>is my cookie cutter build good
I hope colifly stamens are cheap in your server and that the yellow flower only needs 20 or so hours for you because otherwise enjoy suffering.

E.g. stamens are 20-30k here in varena each and you need 30 along with having stuck at the yellow petal for hours without success
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>>145333146
Would probably be better if it's tomorrow before maintenance. That's when people are usually online.
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My tosg guild is now full of normie and camping WB everyday.

Help me.
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>>145334020
Ok cool, I'll be there!
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>>145334156
Please tell me this guild is on Klaip so I can jump ship.
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>character keeps warping backward
>"oh, I guess I'm having shit ping, huh"
>//ping
>0.04
>0.06
>0.05
What.
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>>145334267
I-it's on the sea monkey server.
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>>145334298
Certain skills are buggy and do that after using them. Like Astral Body Explosion.
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>>145334335
Why can't the Klaipedo guilds be try hards like these guys. Goddamn casuals.
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>>145334413
Except this is on my new alt at level 21 and I was just running in crystal mine.
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>>145334091
Was thinking of doing this too, today might be too soon.

Okay tomorrow before maintenance it is.
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>>145334156
>tosg guild on varena
well post it so we can come
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>>145330195
But thats what made RO better. The doujins were pure gold.
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>>145334605
Mil is the only good RO doujinshi artist.
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>>145333146
Is it ok to come if I got hats before ?
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>>145334683
Sure I guess. Is there a limit on how many people can get hats?
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>>145334743
no limit, but it drops a number of hats equal to number of elligible players nearby. Sleek IMC coding doesnt equally distribute it to all players though, so some players get 0 hats, others get 4
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Where are the hat locations? Want to know if I can go there on my alt or not
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Finally over the exp wall on my 1st character. Hunter is really fun to level.
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>>145333146
Why the hell would you choose Scout2?
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>>145335112
Sapper outfit is cuteandlewd.
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>>145334882
Royal Maus 4F
Shaton Farm
Veja Ravine
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>>145335159
You can't get to Scout3 without Scout2.
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>>145335184
Sappers have one of the best costumes.
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>>145335239
Why the hell would you choose Scout 3?
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>>145335532
Free hats + Scout's lewd costume.
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>>145333146
>>145334879
>>145334882

What's this about free hats?
How do I get them?
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>>145335236
Thanks, just finished Shanton. I'll be able to go to every place.
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>>145335532
Scout 3 is fucking awesome.
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>>145335653
>scout use Scan at hidden hat chest location
>a chest appears
>scout open chest
>hats come out pouring
that's how I think?
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Greetings, Saviors.

Our PVP server for [EU] Fedimian went through some connection issues earlier and you may have been unable to access it. Connection was affected during the following time: from [EDT] 19:30 to 21:25, June 12 2016.

We would like to let you know that we have now restarted the server and connection has returned to normal. Thank you for your patience.

>Our PVP server
What.
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Volume curl is by far the sluttiest hairstyle in this game

also, any info on new top 50 minigamers? don't see many kinos anymore
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>>145335873
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=468
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>>145335873
Probably for that team battle minigame
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I was making an elememe and now I'm Wiz 3 but I decided I don't want to be party of the meme army.
What should I do with this character?
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>>145336224
It's not implemented yet.
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>there are people here that didn't know that pvp was enabled
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>>145336239
chrono rune caster warlock
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>>145336239
Thaum3 for even more Futureproofness. Then Warlock or Featherfoot.
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>>145336239

pyro 2/3 /linker/warlock
kino 3 warlock/ff
linker 1 necro 2 optional linker 2 or something else
cryo 3 rc madman
build of kings (pyro 1 kino 1 cryo 1 rc)
linker 1 sorcerer 2 warlock (legit as fuck)
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>>145336239
PK3 Featherfoot.
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>Orsha, the server nobody willingly went into, now has more player strain than Klaip or Telsiai

D E D
E
D
G A M E
A
M
E
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>tfw Mia rubs her feet on your crotch
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>>145336380
>>145336406
>>145336407
Is Featherfoot even worth playing? The skillset just sounds in every way worse than Warlock... what makes it any good?
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>>145336480
it will revive when they open the boarders
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>>145336616
It's currently a Special Bloody Snowflake until C2 proves to be worth it.
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>>145336616
Blood.
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>>145335532

Who knows, the split arrow meme could be real.
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>>145335985
What even is that image about? What is "succ"?
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>>145336616
It's inferior, but classes have been known to be redeemed by later circles.

Who knows what the lewd tattoo class will get. Meanwhile, niggapyros will only get more damage.
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>>145336616
Nothing, literally special snowflake class.
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>>145336849
negro twitter gibberish shit memes

see also: fuccboi, thicc
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>>145336798
Split Arrow isn't really what makes Scout c3 good. However, its synergy with rogue makes it amazing.
Capture your flare shot and just check out the amazing damage you can put out with that increased duration and double stacked flare shots.
Split Arrow is good for mobbing though, no doubt.
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>>145334586
I-it's not varena.
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Hats today or tomorrow during meetup?
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>>145336616

Damage is lower than lock, kinda demands linekr to works decently, still r7 tier when paired with qc and links, also, hp regen, good for soloing, as long as you spam alchemist sp potion, your HP will be fine
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Where did this shit drop, I can't remember. Need to craft shit and the mafia has edited tosbase.com again and took it out. Is it the flying nigger mobs in Roxona West? I can't just fucking remember man.
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>>145337150

Wait, then should I take Rogue C1 over Musketeer or Cannoneer?
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Newbie here..how good is diev anyway?
where to farm silver..since im pispoor.
and cant afford a good hat

pic related.
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>>145336864
>Who knows what the lewd tattoo class will get. Meanwhile, niggapyros will only get more damage.
Just you wait until Warlock 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cYTTC4YorM
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>>145337384
Foretress Battleground
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>>145337384
It doesn't drop in Evacuation District anymore.

THANK YOU IMC
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Can Pios wait another 10 minutes or so so that I can make it to the hat distribution party?
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>>145337458
>meme class thanks to that streamer
>vubbe fighter
>use goggles until lvl 280
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Hoplite3 or Hoplite2Cata
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>I have no friends in real life or in game.
>Always an outsider.
>I sit in town AFK while crying in real life because of how lonely I am.
>I ask people simply to click like as they pass by in the hope that it will somehow fill the empty void inside.
>I have almost 1 thousand likes but I would trade them all for one real friend.

t. like whore
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>>145333146
>>145333506
>>145333648
Let's do it!
KAteen forest now right?
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>>145337656
He moved it tomorrow's meetup.
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>>145337730
But putting in the work to actually talk to someone is too much work for you, right?
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>>145337458
Ay girl, you're cute.
Wanna have a good time? I'll tell you about Dievs.
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>>145337762
>>145337781
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Glackuman up ch3 klai
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We got duped!
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>>145337384
Keparis in Starving Demon Way
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>>145338080
>all the warlocks are now using ele outfits

YUSH MY JOB IN THIS GENERAL IS DONE
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>>145338080
He said tom. before maint. silly.
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>>145336480
What?
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>>145338080
Reddit hat stealers please go.
You guys don't even read the thread.
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>>145338202
Still not using ele outfit.
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I can understand futurepoop being dumb but why is cutenotlewd here too?
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>>145338463
For the prepremaintenance meetup
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>not kissing yourself softly

kyss
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>>145338583
Show me your socks you slut.
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>>145337440
That's totally up to you. It's a viable option.
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this general is so fucking gay

every time i come here i regret rolling a female character

should have rolled a fucking manly man

need to convince myself of my masculinity just in case you fags and your fagginess rubbed off on me
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Is the Rune Caster quest bugged or something? It's been a day and that whore Chronomancer master hasn't given me the rune yet.
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>>145339192
boys in this game all look and are little fuccbois
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>>145339192
So true, though, you wouldn't want to look up a man ass for an entire mmorpg game right?
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>>145339270
Boys are C U T E!
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>>145339192
>need to convince myself
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mfw starting Main chamber, who thought having multiple mobs that can chain freeze you was a good fucking idea?
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>>145337150
r8?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31148889.1a294a51.1545.15213f4f516385.152535
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>>145339192
>his masculinity is so fragile he can't maintain it on his own
Maybe you're a fag but you just don't know it. Because real men don't give a fuck if anything's "not manly enough" because they know it won't affect what defines them.
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>>145339385
Buy some dispellers.
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>>145339385
Thankfully it's only the first floor
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>>145339263
Have you tried the Orsha side Chronomancer?
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>mfw fighting will pick up again after almost a month of carebearness

Can't wait.
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glackuman up ch 1 klai
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>xp tomes cost 9 TP now

didn't these... use to be 8 just now or? Have I just been fucking seeing things?
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Why does my character is so weak!
I mean, I went for a Tank/Damage but still, in some evenst where mobs rush to you, I can only last a few minutes before they break through me, and I can't even do a proper damage output.
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>>145339512
>real manliness is never self-reflecting, worrying, or questioning anything ever

So a "real manly man" would maintain that he wasn't a fag even though he was wearing a dress and getting bred by ten guys with six foot dicks and subsisting solely on semen?

Seems pretty fucking stupid to me.
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>>145339784
Who cares, they're fucking useless. I hope you haven't been using them to grind truffles, etc. with them because if you have you basically just put your TP in the garbage.
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>>145339845
>Pelt 2 into Hop
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>>145339845
>leveled spirit
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>>145339490
Looks good. And remember, this build gives you every possible reason to ignore DEX.
It might seem useful while leveling and you might feel that your crit rate from the swift step buff is going to waste but you won't really need it or benefit much from it at endgame once you're fully geared.
Feint has you covered for accuracy and Sneak Hit has you covered for crits.
Can also get a sizeable chunk of crit from gear alone. Try to keep that in mind!
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>>145339845
you need con you slut also

>spr
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>>145339845
>10000 likes
sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
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>>145339910
That's not true. Every tome I've used increases the experience gain in the millions per hour. It's time saved.
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>>145339845
>Pelt2
>Stats
WORSE THAN KOENING
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>>145339845
>SPR
>Pelt 2
>No points in stabbing
Just reroll and save yourself the pain.
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>>145340061
I know! How dare a Pelt2 have stats?!
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>>145340057
Do I need to get shouting Saber figurine image man in here?

They don't do what it they say they do. You're that idiot who was always given the placebo while everyone else got acid.
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>>145339845
>Koenig's sister
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>>145339908
>just one minor aspect of life defines everything about you
That's why you're staying a faggy fuccboi.
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Playing since 12 of may may or close to that date. Got lucky and made +10 Grand Cross without failures.
Friend quits and gives the pistol right before I hit 170.
How much time it will take for me to get Didel if I never got lucky to roll a peta or arde.
And did anyone get lucky with running shot monster gem so far?
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wait, revenged sevenfold applies to the whole party?
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>>145339845
hoplite is boring weak garbage

if you want a fun "tank/dmg" build get pelt1barb3 instead
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>>145339845
Hoplite doesn't really do damage, it only gives you means for your later classes to do damage. Pelt has 0 damage output, so now you have no damage into no damage.

More Pelt doesn't make you more tank. More Pelt makes you slightly more useful.

How to fix your build: Pelt3Hop3. Then wait for Rank8.

Personally, I would reroll.
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>>145339534
>Thankfully it's only the first floor
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>>145338463
>The only person from CnL I care about isn't there
>Won't go either
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>>145340212
>DerpRage

I believe 9ga.g is that way >>>>>>
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>>145340212
>someone else named their pistol Meme-meme
that fucking memo though disgusting
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>>145340227
What about Pelt 3>Doppel?
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>>145340368
oh the fucking irony
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>>145339845
>pelt2
>stat
Are you Koenig's sister?
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>>145340189
Eh you don't understand. Tomes do save you time and money. TP is wasted when you buy 90x enchant scrolls and they ALL give you nothing! You're doing it wrong.

Only losers need cash shop revives.
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>>145339385
>tfw died three fucking times as a cleric
on that day i learned to switch fucking channels whenever i got frozen by those cunts
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>>145340161
You aren't getting it
Your stats distribution is just terrible
Literally Koening 2.0
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Is lv10 Fire Pillar worth it or is lv5 enough?
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>a new Koenig appears
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>>145340336
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>>145339845
If it makes you feel any better, you're not the only one with a weird build.
leveling this hasn't been that bad to be honest.
I'm planning on maybe doing highlander c2 into doppel
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Fucking normies there've been 2 other stat retards browse the general more
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Why do people do this? Is it fun to be going around the area, provoke and then hold fucking C for 10 minutes?

This guy had 0 damage output and almost died multiple times because he refuses use my heal unless his HP is like, 300 or something and would rather use his own potions instead
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>>145339845
my daughter you are now the new koening congratulations enjoy your new slutty life full of bullying
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>>145340371
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>>145340651
>tfw no one calls it "pulling a lolipantsu" anymore
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>so many new Koenigs
>one of them is my fetish Thighlander
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>>145339845
learning disability
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>>145340749
because they're brain dead

>>145340781
lolipan beta orbiters have died out thank god
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>>145340371
Bad idea
You know how to save an Hoplite3?
Dragoon or Shinobi
But your stats distribution already made it beyond repair
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>>145340718
>>145339845
Didn't attach the correct image.
Should have been this.
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what the fuck this fucking build then
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/tr4jt1qyf6/
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>>145340896
Have a guide to tosbase
the longer the page
the worse the build
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>>145340879
The beta orbiters of that mediocre monk are far worse
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What then? I should build a Monk or Chaplain?
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>>145341050
Chaplain.
Never a monk.
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>>145339845
Post your skills for Pelt. I bet you killed your build by maxing out Guardian and High Guard. I bet 1000 talts you did.
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>>145340749
Looks like ET build to me.
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>people hate on monks
>everytime I get paired with one is Siauliai the mission goes twice as fast

???
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WTF THIS GAME

I CAN MAKE GHOSTS BLEED WITH CROSSCUT BUT FUCKING RUBABOS ARE IMMUNE TO IT

THEY ARE MAMMALS
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>>145341086
The guide says to max High Guard, but only gives 1 point to Guardian
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>>145340212
You will NEVER get it.

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4196&category=%EC%BF%BC%EB%A0%90%EC%8A%88%ED%84%B0&l=74892

This korean is up to hundreds of boxes and 47m in rerolls.

QS3, never ever.
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>>145341005
>giant douche is better than turd sandwich
what matters is there are less shitters
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>>145341131
Competent monks are rare. Good monks are even more rare.
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>>145341131
Not because of the monks, to be sure. It's not like they have anything in their kit that's inherently good.
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>>145341208
>there are less shitters
No?
We have more every day, like idiots just theorycrafting or posting tosbase links
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>>145341131
Monks aren't bad for missions if a wiz uses lethargy.
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>>145341131
Yeah I love monks in missions desu

things I absolutely despise in my missions

>tanks
>full healers
>FUCKING ALCHEMISTS
>pvp builds
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>>145340749
Because Plet3Squire3 is the theorycrafted "ET tank"
Which on paper is correct but in practice it just got proved less than a week ago ET 1-20 can be cleared withour any swordman in the party and Peltasta1 has the same taunting power of Peltasta3 if you swashbuckl and move around with the buff a little instead of sitting and holding C, Peltasta1Cata is the best tank in the game because this
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>>145341510
>this meme again
because very team is going to have that perfect comp like the koreans and abuse invincibility right?
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/exploiting-the-fact-that-imc-allows-players-to-set-up-shop-on-statues/247080/21
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People forget that Squires have a food buff that gives 40% more health.
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I'm not having fun with my Hop2>Cor1 build. I'm envious of archers and mages doing insane outputs while I just stand there and draw bosses aggro. Will my dps improve on Cor 2 (DWA) or on Shinobi? Or should I just join the meme and make an archer now?
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>>145341615
about the team composition? you are right
About Peltasta3? Peltasta1 can get you in high floors just as a Peltasta3
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>>145341705
huge lack of swordies in this game right now as long as you're pelt1 you're assured a spot to 280.
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>>145341705
A Swordsman's DPS will NEVER EVER compare to that of a Wizard or Archer. Even Clerics can out-DPS you. Swordsman DPS circles are exclusively PvP, because they do enough burst damage to kill a player, but not any monster above 220.

Even if we get all of the kTOS changes, that fact doesn't change.
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>>145340212
>>145341207
Don't give up, I actually got one! On my Warlock...
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>>145341918
>A Swordsman's DPS will NEVER EVER compare to that of a Wizard or Archer
>what is Doppel C2
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>>145341993
Got it on my Druid!
Not even planning to make a QS3 EVER!
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>>145342013
If you can get your Valor stack to 10 without dying too fast, sure.
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This kills the Elememe.
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>>145341993
>>145342103
m-maybe IMC will make untradeable items tradeable between account characters
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>>145342174
Doppel new DPS meta, every elementalist is rerolling!
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>>145342013
Again with this meme. You never get 10 full stacks of Deeds of Valor. Expecting to get hit 10 times, build up 10 Warcry stacks, getting 20 charges of Frenzy, and still unleashing 2 Cyclones is delusional. No matter the order, your buff will be running out first, and the Eleme is already placing his second Frostcloud.

I like swordsmen, and I really want to like Doppelsoeldners, but this is a delusion.
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>>145342175
That would kill the purpose of high level untradable things
Making you rolling alts
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>>145341174
Just think of them as having quick coagulation agents.
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>>145342174
>falseflaggers are this mad doppelmemes can outdamage elememe in super specific scenarios
why are elememe so insecure about themselves?
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>>145342294
>get really good thing you can't use
>untradeable, even within acc
>let it rot and despair

>get really good thing you can't use
>untradeable, but okay within acc
>create alts
>repeat
>more TP being bought to buy slots

It's like IMC hate money or something
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>>145342174
Is there any build that can out-dps doppelsoeldner? And I'm not talking about c2 doppelsoeldner. I'm not talking about doppel2 with 10 deeds of valor stacks either. Hell, I'm not even talking about doppel2 with gung ho, frenzy, concentrate, warcry and 10 deeds stacks.

I'm talking about ktos full str sword2barb3doppel2 with max gung ho, concentrate, warcry, and frenzy with max attributes and monster gems, 10 deeds of valor stacks, 2 sissel bracelets, max petamion, full lolopanther plate, +15 lolopanther 2H sword with level 10 crit attack gems, squire weapon maintenance and consumed alchemist level 10 critical attack potion, with full dex linker3 slave plus spiritual link to share QS3 level 8 running shot as well as thaum3 slave with max swell attributes and chrono3 slave with pass while casting cyclone with 100% attribute.
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