Ded spess edition
Previous ded >>143665852
The thread is dedicated to all games about building machines and systems out of blocks, in space or otherwise:
Corneroids, Space Engineers, Starmade, From the Depths, Factorio, Robocraft, Machinecraft, Garry's Mod, Homebrew, Besiege, Medieval Engineers, Infinifactory, Scrap Mechanic, GearBlocks, and anything else welcome. Also, all these games are ded. Only ded games may join, otherwise they must have their own thread.
WebM for retards:
>gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter.git
Space Engineers:
>spaceengineersgame.com
>SpEngies for retards: i.imgur.com/IZekrGe
StarMade:
>star-made.org
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyxsW_2xmo
Avorion
>https://www.avorion.net/
>/egg/ approved server: 149.202.65.190
From the Depths:
>fromthedepthsgame.com
>/egg/heim idea bin: http://pastebin.com/Tmk14sf2 (embed)
Factorio:
>http://www.factorio.com/
>http://guide.factorio.com/index.html
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/eggtorio
Robocraft:
>robocraftgame.com
Machinecraft:
>hrpbk2 wix com/machinecraft
>upload/download designs at filescase.com
>TT Mech template: www.mediafire.com/download/0aalnmvvyvm75sq/TT-Mech-Template.rar
>Helpful starter guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLVnW5exF3Q
Garry's mod:
>garrysmod.com
Homebrew - Vehicle Sandbox
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/325420/
>http://www.homebrewgame.com/
Besiege:
>store.steampowered.com/app/346010/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-aG7E9gTNI
Medieval Engineers:
>medievalengineers.com
Infinifactory:
>zachtronics.com/infinifactory
Scrap Mechanic:
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/387990/
GearBlocks:
>http://www.moddb.com/games/gearblocks
Robot Arena 2:
>http://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=4
>http://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=5
KOHCTPYKTOP: Engineer of the People
>http://www.zachtronics.com/kohctpyktop-engineer-of-the-people/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbOHCopCyiU
>gmod never
Shamelessly repeating this, because it's a hot topic in FtD:
>>143980508
2nd for ill never make it as a drawfag
/egg/ drama
>>143984002
Space souls drawing when
Don't worry, you can't disappoint us because were weren't expecting anything anyway
What does /egg/ listen to while they /egg/?
>>143984128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fNJZ67roTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhQD1sMGIvA
>>143984079
oh ok
iam on it now
https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/amateur_egg_dev_general
JUST MAKE GAME
>>143984128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PriMS_xGXmg
about the least engineery song you can find
>did first level in KOHCTPYKTOP
shit, that thing is THE shit.
>>143986271
>first level
lol
>>143984450
It needs to be in the OP.
pls do
>>143988261
Geez, i know I am little shit, but dude, working out how N to P and P to N bridges work is funwhat I am seeing there?
>>143984235
Wuts that. looks like the head of this thing.
>>143988375
>KOHCTPYKTOP
>in any way representative of how semiconductors work
http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/fet_02.php
KOHCTPYKTOP is to semiconductor design as legos are to architecture.
>>143988545
>/egg/ games
>in any way representative of how engineering works
I know man, doesn't mean you can at least get a glance on basics of how this work
>>143988862
>implying a true engineering game shouldn't be bigger than life
>implying a true engineering game wouldn't be almost entirely emergent
If KOHCTPYKTOP is a good way to understand the basics, Spacechem is a good way to understand quantum computing.
>>143988989
>implying our narrow human brains can understand the universe
>>143988520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6zT3kVtpHc
>>143989095
>implying that matters at all
>>143989163
>implying matters
>>143989230
>>143988989
>>143988862
>>143989095
>engineering
>games
So you never been to university? If you want "engineering games" just go "play" SPICE and matlab.
>>143989367
I've learnt how to Matlab basics.
Or at least I think so.
>>143989367
I am. Those are not games.
>>143984128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppZblOO6pA4
>>143989489
Neither would an accurate representation of semiconductor design be. You'd just be doing tutorials for a design tool. If that's fun for you, those tools exist and you can fuck with them. They're just not games. The second G in /egg/ is every bit as important as the E. Kocklitpop is a p coo game.
/svgg/ laughs at people who think spess games need to be Shuttle study sims, too.
>>143990365
are you actually autistic?
are you really arguing semantics and terminology?
really?
what is the point?
/egg/ is /egg/.
stop shitposting.
>>143990654
I'm not, he keeps talking about how inaccurate Kotchkytop is every time someone posts about it.
>>143991631
ah ok.
>>143990654
>/egg/ is /egg/
no, /egg/ is /svgg/
Architects are the chiropractors of engineering.
>>143988545
TBF KOHCTPKTOP is a good representation of one half of IC design. Yes, in real life p-channel can only pull up whereas n-channel can only pull down, and both sides need to be complementary or else you get either floats or shorts, but matching up the halves isn't reallyfun. Not even real engineers bother with this; gate level synthesis is usually done by computers.
>>143991945
i guess that means no ftd then.
>>143992289But KOHCTPYKTOP doesn't even have rectifying
>>143992405
I thought you could make a "logic diode" pretty easily? Although if you have to use those you're fucking up somehow. I remember nets had to be 'one to one' or 'one to many' only, or you would wind up with a weird-ass logic backflow.
Guys, the Avorion dev replied to my question on faggit, early access is expected august
>tfw it's the only game you enjoy at the moment
>don't want to burn out on it before its even released
>but everything else looks so shit
>>143990365
>this is the same kind of people that argue about color of piss on /out/ providing miriad of statistcs to a guy who asked "Hey I'm going to thailand to make a very long trek, any tips" and argue that he should not trust his piss color for indications of hidratation because his autistic reasons and derailed the thread.
>>143994221
I hope somebody capped that thread, looks like it had potential
>>143994492
What the fuck is London?
>>143994815
>not keeping up with memes
>>143994492
SOme dude just said, "Hey OP start drinking water if you notice your pee is getting darker, you are a pale scotsman and you sweat your sould there". Then the dude just went full /pol/ mode and started sperging and providing statistics and saying >you provide no argument, read my sources
>you are wrong read my sources
>read my sources
>read my sources
And the sources barely supported his reasoning, then he entered debate-lord mode and started calling fallacies out. Other good thread was about the guy who said he "shot every dog in a park when he went out" kek
>>143994815
Update your meme repository memefriend.
>>143994878
I've seen it everywhere for the past year, at least, I just never really understood it.
>>143994492
was it real grillshe lookshealthy
>>143994945
iirc, it has something to do with a really thirsty autistic londinian trip/namefag begging femanons
can't really remember all too well
>>143995005
Yeah, let's hope sheis in London :^)
>>143995094
4chan is magical place
I want it to stay this way
>>143995094
That almost sounds familiar.
>>143980508
>>143983952
The issue isn't in how much a unit "costs", it's that the best units are simply too bullshit good. It doesn't matter how much a, say, Kobald "costs", one spawning is enough to assrape a path of cheese clear through you until you manage to chip it to death. By which time another is sure to have spawned.
Basing FP on RP cost would also mean that a highly decorated design that spends loads on looking better but not fighting better gets shafted. We WANT things that look good and we want FP to measure combat ability.
Right now, FP is mostly a measure of offensive ability because it's derived from the qualification test score and the QT ramps up in lethality VERY VERY quickly past a certain point.
Where it's lacking is that: A, the QT doesn't really test ability to hit things. B, the QT doesn't effectively assess defense past "exists". C, the fuzzy wuzzy fallacy is fucking things up because the KotLs are making flawed assumptions.
>>143995094
It was a trap
>>143996068
goddammit /fit/
You know, the scaling of shit in FtD reminds me of enemy scaling in Warframe.
Minute ago I was running away, shooting torps at a Paddlegun, but now A FUCKING PULSAR shits HE all over my poor bote.
And that's a 0.9 Easy plane. Fuckin' a.
>>143996068
I guess it's posts like this that really mess up my meme senses, because I really don't see the connection.
>>143996297
>I really don't see the connection.
>cooking
>anime
>shit taste in said anime
close enough to a femanon to warrant memery
mix of ftd spengies and abortion without keencode when?
>>143996820
Reality would CLANG itself with a game like that
>>143997178
>implying that's a bad thing
>>143997323
>Implying I implied that it would be a bad thing
>>143996820
>Build ship hull using Avorion-like stretchy primitives, automatically nothing adjacency and connections.
>Use primitives again to lay strict grid-based rooms inside the hull. To build machines like engines and reactors, you go close-up and play FtD tetris on the grids. You can also just lay down prefabs instead.
>If a primitive blows up, all the room space inside it is cut at the interface, venting air out into space. Orphaned primitives become a 'ship' of their own instead of vanishing like in FtD and Avorion.
It makes me head spin thinking of how to implement this shit, but fund it for sure.
>>143996820
The reason abortion works at all is a lack of physics calculations. I'm so done with moving parts right now after all the shit we've gone through for the past five years.
>>143997616
>avorion
>cut off parts of ships vanishing
did you not see the giant wreckage fields everywhere
things get cut in half constantly
>>143997895
I haven't played it enough to notice it, but that's quite cool.
It only cements my conviction that Avorion is the savior of /svgg/.
>>143997895
I hate how the little bits are just wreckage rather than flyable ships
I want to jump into a random piece of shit and ram it into other shit
>enterprise loses one nacelle
>whole thing dead
max salt
>>143997895
If there are enough parts in the piece that breaks off, it remains a wreckage instead of exploding.
Read the wiki.
>>143998972
why are you telling me what i told you
>>143999837
You were not wrong.
But you weren't right either.I need to sleep more often.
>June 1st
Any minute now.
>yfw the flamethrower update
Factorio is nearly finished.It's all just one huge metaphor for Vietnam.
>finally got ftd
>finally got factorio
now i don't feel guilty about pirating factorio.
and now i can enjoy autism botes, without pirating it at all.
>see massive spider
>scream like girl
>it runs back into its hidey hole
>spray it's hole with shit ton of killer spray
>a smaller one comes scurrying out
>scream like girl
>spray it until it looks like someone jizzed all over it
>another massive one comes out
>scream like girl
>repeat jizz spray
>ANOTHER massive one comes out from somewhere else
>scream
>it manages to scurry back into its hole
>still haven't killed the original massive one
Please send help
>>144004983
Im preparing.
>>144004983
Burn down the house. It's the only way.
>spraying the spider
>not just squashing the bugger, bonus points for stomping him
Check your balls anon, you might actually be a girl.
>>143988794
the madman did it
he gassed the devs
Freejews trying to fuck over tesseracts while theya re just starting to get popular again.
Thank god.
>>144006336
They were in an awkward corner and I had no shoes on, fuck letting them climb me like a fucking colossus and biting my weak points to kill me.
So fucking itchy.
>>144007030
>jimmy-jams-jammy-jam factory
>tingle max flavor slip slop solar spread
what
>>144007438
>euphoric tech
Don't even try to understand.
>>144007438
They have weird shit like that on all the "posters" they make.
Heres the one from when missiles came out.
>>144007615
what the fuck were they smoking
>>144007615
>>143984235
>autechre
my autismo
>>143991945
Factorio update when
>>143992289
remind me why do we usefuninstead of fun again ? i must have memory flaws because I can't remember when this meme came out
>>144010316
Check the website doofus, it's already out
>>144010326
fun is a buzzword
>>144010316
/fcg/ comeback when
>tfw securing fucking huge chunk of land in factorio because fuck bugs biting my precious shipments of iron
>apparently my iron is already too ded to supply shit for ~4k lazor turrets
>can't resign from four layers of lazor turrets because 'muh impenetrable fortress'
>>144010326
Because of the "No fun allowed" rule from /rcg/
I guess...
>>144004983
>see a human
>a towering mound of flesh, its body lacking chitinous exoskeleton, appearing as though a flayed insect dried in the sun for hours
>the few limbs it had moved strangely, articulating at joints that, though fixed by some cruel joke of design like a mundane chitinous leg, were not apparent until the being bent a seemingly straight segment of its body
>the flesh, if flesh it be, peeled back at the top part, barely visible in the heights, revealing sharp outcroppings of stone inside it
>could feel its roar in my legs as it expelled air from the hole that had opened
>a mountain walked or stumbled
>my reason left me then, and as I came aware of my surroundings again, I had, guided by instinct alone, found refuge inside a crevice too small for it to stretch the bulk of its twisting, writhing extremities within
>all the others are dead, covered in a noxious substance the beast (if such a word can be used to describe an abomination of all natural order, not wholly plant nor mineral nor arthropod) blasted from one of its limbs
>I can still smell the acrid, penetrating smell that shook my very being, and hear the terrible roaring and hissing that accompanied the demise of my companions, and I know that even if I should by some miracle survive, neither shall ever leave my dreams
>>144011217
spiderposter pls
>>144011217
>>144010369
You fucker.
>>144010456
Four THOUSAND laser turrents?
![[muffled 'Ayy lmao' in the distance].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cTzlTiH.jpg "[muffled 'Ayy lmao' in the distance].jpg")
>>144011217
We are Cthulhu
>tfw u an alien
>tfw shiny mountain falls from the sky, burning, yet not charred, glowing, yet not molten.
>tfw from this mountain strange creatures emerge, giant birds, turtles and bears of metal, that scream like tortured souls and belch black smoke into sky
>tfw tiny critters accompanying colossi soon start to tear ground apart, impaling mother planet with giant spikes, stacking boxes with some grand, yet completely illogical purpose
>tfw they see you, and almost on spot nearest gigantic crab turns to you and releases short flare from his arm
>tfw before you can react, you're lying on your back staring into first dusk star
>tfw no pain, only weird warmth, anddeath
>>144013123
go big or go home
so what am I supposed to DO in Avorion
not saying it's not fun, it is, I'm just not quite sure if I should just stick around and mine enough iron to make a giant ass ship or what
>>144011217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms2klX-puUU
>>144014006
Well it is only a demo of the game.
Pretty much mine or trade for credits to build ships to kill arrs and ayys to get turrets to get better at killing arrs and ayys, for now.
>>144004983
I have one spider in my toilet or, judging by the timespan of more than three years, it might as well be a lineage of them. The fuckers kept getting on my nerves, because for some reason the slit between the slipper and floor seemed like the most safe crevice to them.
What puzzled me always, is why were they hanging around there, since the only other life-forms ever noticed in the toilet are me and my rommate.
Then I've started seeing Spider3, the supposed grandson of spider1, fucking around in bathroom getting stuck in the think or basin or dish.
The dynasty of shit-eating spiders is probably over now, since I've once noticed a fucktard painfully reminiscent of spider3 being washed down the shower drainage.
>>144010326
not the guy you quoted.
It started idk how long ago because, to describe something asfunis not enough to describe a videogame experience.
imput lag or imput cache in fighting games, or the physics engine (see crysis meme, and replace graphics with physics)
Look at the spaceship physics in no mans sky, the are the exact same as tie fighter from DOS, so i cant enjoy it doing space travels in that shit, no real control of the movement, no spacedrifts, not even strafe like pic related, but some other dont care if the ship works like an acrobatic plane in space, they care that whatever other feature fills the"fun"factor.
TL;DRfunis a buzzword, never use it again in videogames, be more accurate.
I should probably not be attempting to learn how to into autism botes while so tired that i'm seeing things.
looks like something i can just sink tons of hours into, building and testing shit.
the tutorial is actually a really good idea.
i'm surprised it's not more common
![dNe7p8q[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ShDmBvh.jpg "dNe7p8q[1].jpg")
>>144011217
>>144018896
grilled
>>144013371
>alien
>birds, turtles and bears
>>144019063
>implying birbs aren't universal concept
>slap wingz on a chicka and you get a birb.
>>144019063
>>144019215
You want to talk alien?
Salps.
Giant tube worms.
Fungi.
Carnivorous plants.
>>144019215
>we discover advanced alien life
>it's all just fucking normal looking birds and dogs and cows and shit
>>144019917
>we discover alien life
>they're less-advanced than we are
>>144019917
desu while it probably won't be 'normal' looking birbs and shit, rules of physics heavily suggest convergent evolution is a thing for reason.
>>144020201
>aliums come to us in ftl ships
>key to ftl was so fucking ridiculous and illogical that every race who got it abandoned science
>fucking Z3 was most advanced computer of all universe when it was built
>>144020474
>key to ftl was so fucking ridiculous and illogical that every race who got it abandoned science
So, basically the entirety of quantum physics
>>144021337
Are quantum mechanics that much of gibberish?
I mean, we test shit with those, do experiments, build cool stuff, and it kinda works...
right...?
It can't be that bad
>>144020474
I would like to think it was basically a point in science where it branched off, one way would be ftl the other being where we are in science, like aliums coming to us in ftl still using gunpowder weaponry etc
>>144021668
and then we steal their ships, reverse engineer the everloving fuck out of them, and reapy the favor with jets and tonks
>>144020201
>aliens are retard savants that can fold space but don't understand the concept of firearms
>>144021863
Of course, thus Humanity becoming a dominant space faction with advanced ships and weaponry
Finally finished this crap's outer hull and turrets, now i only need to add engine, resource pools, flares, a couple more of camouflaged missile tubes, the paintjob and the sky lords will have a new escort bote for their freighters
>>144021863
>implying we ever could reverse engineer alien technology
>>144021668
>>144021863
There's already some kind of story like that
Basically aliums with muskets stumble upon our planet and see all of the crazy advanced tech we have, and most importantly our weaponry, yet we don't have warp drives
Then at the end the crew realizes that their fuckup allowed us to reverse engineer and make warp drives ourselves, allowing us to use our crazy terrifying weapons across the galaxy
>>144021863
>>144022118
>humanity is actually space america
>steal everything
>reverse engineer it
>improve it ten times over
>sell it back to the people we stole it from at five times the price
>>144021668
There is a science fiction story with just that premise, I can't remember the title or the author though but maybe some other anon does.
>>144022383
I think that's pretty much what I based my little outtake off, I can remember reading it a while back, a cool concept though.
>>144022004
>>144022118
>we lern how to terraform and starseed efficiently
>we don't even need to conquest shit, we just hop from one nebula to other, making proper star systems on the fly
>by the 2500 there's mole of us
>>144022341
In 1800's something bunch of Abos stole a brig, sailed it, ran aground on some noice islets, eradicated natives and colonized islets forever and ever
They barely were able to create fishing boats before.
>>144022762
You can't reasonably compare what it is to understand and work with a material like wood, which is what humanity does since its Habilis stage if not earlier, and reverse engineer a starship made by some unknown sentient specie.
>>144023356
But think of all the tools we have to study matter, we could reverse engineer the shit out of anything made from compounds that obey the normal rules of physics and chemistry.
>>144023614
>we could reverse engineer the shit out of anything made from compounds that obey the normal rules of physics and chemistry
That's the problem, if they have learned a way to generate and use, for example, super heavy elements, we might know how are they built, but not how to generate the materials to build them
>flying around in spengies, need uranium
>find everything but uranium
>...or nickel, for solar panels
>don't need uranium
>find giant blobs of it
>>144023356
I doubt Maori could easily grasp the concept of square rig and how to not sink themselves on open sea.
>>144023614
Yeah. Implying they have used the Elements we know from our periodic table to build it. Otherwise...
>>144023614
>anything made from compounds that obey the normal rules of physics and chemistry.
Here's your fuckup:
>>144020474
>>key to ftl was so fucking ridiculous and illogical that every race who got it abandoned science
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4douse
>>144023889
Well, right now we already know of pretty much every single useful element there is
All that's left is to try to see how many protons/neutrons/electrons we can manage to cram in an atom and have a half-life that lasts long enough for us to actually confirm that we've managed to make it
>>144023889
>Yeah. Implying they have used the Elements we know from our periodic table to build it. Otherwise...
There are pretty solid reasons to think that those are the only types of atoms available to build things from, regardless of where you are in the universe.
>>144024162
This makes no sense.
>>144022429
That's China, except the last part is selling it for half the price, which is what makes them highly competitive.
The problem with science is that in order to know what the future holds we have to either have discovered it already or someone who discovered it has to show us
there could be ridiculous shit just over the horizon that makes no fucking sense just like modern physics theories would be batshit to people in the 15th century
we won't know how crazy the future is until the future
>>144024467
To preface, I'm not opposed to what you are saying but I know that I do not know a lot.
Does humanity know everything that we know is true absolutely or is everything under some amount of doubt?
What if everything we think is wrong?
>>144024574
>which is what makes them highly competitive.
*retarded
Fixed that for you.
They also make it 10 times as toxic and cancerous.
>>144024789
>What if everything we think is wrong?
Regardless of what we think or whether we truly understand with 100.0% clarity, protons and neutrons will still behave and stick together in the same ways and be surrounded by electron clouds that interact in the same ways.
>>144024574
>implying china improves anything they steal
>>144025028
Non-toxic costs more, using lead paint is an acceptable cost-cutting measure
>>144025123
Well I mean what if even that is wrong?
What if that turns out to not be true at all
how would scientists operate then
>>144024467
>>144024323
Yes evidences are there but it's still called a "periodic table of elements" and not a "definitive table" for a reason too. Science is a work in progress and I would not exclude the AMT-1 scenario on the behalf of our so-called state of the art's empirical evidences. Although you're probably right in the case where a freaking unknown starship had to crash on Earth, we'd surely understand its material basics.
>>144024574
China is a cancer that steals ideas from literally everyone and cuts corners anywhere they can
>>144025123
>electron clouds that interact in the same ways.
But anon that's the electron cloud model theory. Bohr's atomic model wasn't built in the same way so the results were - predictably enough - not the same.
From wiki:
"In the Bohr model, electrons were assigned to different shells. These shells explained the repeating patterns of chemical properties in the periodic table. Using quantum mechanics, chemists can use the electron cloud model to assign electrons to different atomic orbitals. These atomic orbitals are not all spheres. Atomic orbitals also explain the patterns in the periodic table."
So what if a new framework proposes a new way to understand atomic configurations someday ?
>>144026015
>So what if a new framework proposes a new way to understand atomic configurations someday ?
Then we'll have a better understanding of exactly why things happen, but it doesn't change the fact that carbon is still going to mainly spend its time being tetravalent, silicon will still have a high affinity for oxygen and fluorine, diamond will still be the hardest metal known the man, etc, etc.
>From wiki:
Which particular wiki do you mean? Are you perhaps talking about Wikipedia?
>>144025285
>>144025460
The structure of atoms are fairly simple
They have protons, which determine which element it is, electrons, which determine what charge it has, with a neutral charge it has the same number of electrons as protons, and the neutrons determine which isotope of the element it is
If you go left to right on the periodic table, you'll find the elements listed according to how many protons they have, starting at 1 with hydrogen and going up one by one for every single element on the table
It'd be one hell of a thing if they managed to create an element with something like 6 and a half protons or some shit
>physics with /egg/
i love it when this happens
>>144026430
Yes I've pinched it from here https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_cloud
>>144026440
The only real places to go are up, in which case you just get things that violently cease to be themselves functionally instantly, or down in which case wow you've discovered the neutron good job.
Or, I mean, you could pull an entirely new set of particles out your ass. A set that had somehow never been observed on Earth despite acting much like normal particles, to the point of being usable in macroscopic machinery.
What would happen if you rammed a car made of diamond into a wall made of diamond at 400 diamonds per diamond?
>>144027169
A lot of subatomic particles we've theorized about before we've ever actually been able to confirm their existence
We've known that the Higgs boson probably exists since the 60s, but it hasn't been until recently that we've managed to build a giant particle collider and point at the data it spits out and say "Yes, the Higgs boson exists, we found it right here"
Though, hopefully there is eventually going to be some major large-scale use for the things we'll discover by researching this stuff
That's pretty much the whole point of it
>>144026440
Is there an actual, realistic, theoretically possible way to turn say, an atom of silicon into an atom of gold?
So could you make a thing that basically eats trees, stones, dirt and whatever and turns it into stuff like titanium?
>>144027169
I've always wondered.
through some magical faggotry, would it be possible to just make a new particle?
>>144028162
I think this has actually been done before, some scientists at cern dicking around or something.
>>144028162
Yeah, you can just shoot neutrons and protons at shit until it either becomes the desired element or decays into the desired element.
It costs a fortune and requires a particle accelerator and laboratory conditiosn, but you can do it.
spengos question:
Are hydrogen tanks even necessary for a primarily hydrogen shap if you have a hydrogen generator and enough cargo space for a shitton of ice?
>>144024503
This is exactly what captcha is learning here.
>>144028326
>Supcom will be reality in far future and the only resources required will be mass and energy
>>144028162
Bombard atoms with other atoms and hope they fuse at the nuclear level. It's literally how stars do it, just with gravity instead of Particle Accelerators.
>>144028328
I've actually flown without a hydrogen tank and I've noticed a hydrogen tank is actually detrimental.
You're better off slapping an oxygenerator on a ship without a tank if it's a small ship.
>>144024789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KThlYHfIVa8
>>144028162
It is
That's how we make all the various artificial elements that have names that begin with "unun" and have a hundred-something protons and half-lives measured in microseconds
Though this is done on the atomic level, so it'd be hella expensive and time-consuming to even get a gram of silicon turned into gold
>>144028162
Sure, fusion and fission are real processes.
With enough hydrogen, you could recreate the entire Earth - "simply" using fusion to create heavier elements as needed.
>>144028852
>>144029058
>yfw eggheads might dig down to "island of stability" in you lifetime
what is inside the smallest thing we know of? what is inside that?
>>144028852
iirc they found a new proton-neutron configuration that allowed certain artificial ultra-heavy elements to be forcibly stabilized.
only worked for certain ones.
>>144029381
Something we don't know of apparently.
>can't understand physics beyond basic shit
>still my favorite subject to discuss and learn about
Is this normal?
Also holy shit how do you get more fucking power in Avorion
>>144029381
CLANG
>>144029786
power comes from surface area.
stack tons of really flat plates of solars on top of each other.
nest them inside blocks.
don't actually have to see the light.
>>144028078
>Universe.exe has encountered an error and must now close.
>>144029812
>the strings in M theory are actually quantized Clang
become one with our god
become one with the universe
>>144028078
you would prove that diamond is indeed the hardest metal known to man
>>144030118
Isn't the whole string theory about string vibrations deciding what a particle will be?
Ie one string vibrates at this frequency, so it'll be an atom of helium, this string vibrates at that frequency so it'll be an atom of hydrogen.
>>144029381
I heard about some theory once where, once you get down small enough, everything is just something resembling the game of life
That is, everything's just a 3D grid with squares filled in or not filled in, and they all follow apparently very simple rules, but on larger scales they have more and more complex effects, like how in the game of life with the right rules and right arrangement of blocks you'll get something that's self-sustaining and keeps itself moving in one direction
I'm pretty sure I heard this from some Numberphile video or some shit, I'll just go look for it
>>144029381
this
>>144030696
a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOxDb_BbXzU
>>144031043that thing needs to be gassed
>>144030363
>metal
>>144032113
>>144030363
what is a metal?
>>144032275
A miserable pile of atoms.
>>144025582
Well, it's such a cancer because American corporations outsourced almost the entirety of their production to China.
>>144032275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgrCKhxE1s
Harder than diamonds
>>144032559
so hard they couldn't play their songs live
>>144032559
>harder than diamonds
dummy, diamonds are THE hardest metal
>>144029381
Funny thing is: we don't know which of things we know is smallest one.
On quantum scale, our concept of length and related ones like size, trajectory, continuous movement and so on become inadequate.
You can slap those to protons and neutrons with some success, it is basically defined by distance on which short range interactions kicks in.
For example, the interaction of two protons is defined by electromagnetic forces for a huge range of distances, but if protons are set on collision course with very high speeds, they will be able co come close enough for the nuclear interaction to become stronger than electromagnetic one, and such collisions will have results (directions and speeds of protons after collisions) completely different from the ones conditioned by coulomb interaction.
For 'smaller' particles like electrons and neutrino, there's no strong or nuclear interaction, so it's difficult to have 'size' in the same sense. And for quarks of which protons and neutrons are made, the strong interaction manifests itself in ways more complex than just changing directions of particles.
And that's not mentioning purely engineering problems of observing such small scale processes and a world we live in.
>>144032383
Have at you!
/egg/ - particle physics general
>>144032437
>Only American corporations
>>144034470
http://robocraftgame.com/forums/topic/will-robocraft-be-adversely-affected-because-74-of-freejam-owned-by-hyperion/
>Info found from: https://companycheck.co.uk/company/02687345/FREEJAM-LIMITED/summary
>Freejam Limited – the company behind robocraft, has 2.4m in assets and 3.6m in liabilities
Currently, Freejam has a net worth of -1.1million, with 1.1million owed to the company Hyperion Venture Ltd
>Hyperion Venture Ltd is who provided the money for Freejam to lift Robocraft off the ground
>The current director of Freejam and Hyperion is a guy named Karl Jeffery
>Karl Jeffery was CEO of Climax Group in 2007, which dissolved, and is now director and CEO of climax Studios and Arooga.com
>Arooga.com is a mobile games developer specializing in the “social casino”
>Freejam Limited used to be named Climax Group Limited, and is currently 24 yrs old.
>SUMMARY:
>FreeJam is under the control of a guy specializing in mobile and gambling type games. FreeJam has a negative net worth and its next accounts due on the 1.1million owed to Hyperion is 30 Sep 2016. FreeJam is under pressure to raise revenue, Karl Jeffery most likely proposed loot crate system as he has experience with that kind of platform in the past. With Karl at the helm, since his experience is in mobile games, the focus is on flattening the skill level to gain player base by widening appeal rather than on map development, balance changes. It’s not FreeJam’s fault as they need to pay back loans.
>>144034901
Please do not post about robocuck here ever again.
It's not an /egg/ game for a long time.
>play avorion
>holy shit its fun
I hope this doesn't flop.Who am I kidding, of course it's gonna flop.
>>144034901
Not /egg/ game.
>>144035043
also, is there a way to turn off the inertial dampeners or what have you in Avorion?
>>144034901
sounds like a pretty fucking ded gaem
>>144034901
Oy vey shut it down
I was wondering if someone could make a 5 point star in Avorion and post a pic with the blocks highlighted. Thanks.
MAV-6395R-1X26Z-8Q0Z0-KU5AH-446IH
>>144044404
Still got this after 4 minutes, thanks to the thread being ded'd.
thanks based anon.
>>144044404
>>144044759
too bad mav is shit :^(
Where the Factorio posters at?
>>144044887
I just went through the trouble of updating it and it just freezes at the login screen.
I fear you may be right.
>>144047489
If you post a report on the forums the developer will probably reply himself within an hour.
>Someone tries to steal my car
>Lose my wallet
>No card, no cash, no food in the house
>haven't eaten for a day, can't eat until tomorrow
>worst of all, can't even build my own robbits to kill other peoples robbits
WHY ME
>>144047562
Well at least there's some good news.
>>144047843
Are you trying to play on Steam or the standalone version?
>>144048489
I just put it on Steam and it worked fine.
ded
>>144052151
>>144054078
mmm, I love how kikewagons look
Hey, remember that weird ass russian Robocraft clone that was only available if you had the russian facebook thing?
Now the games going to be on steam.
Robocraft and Crossout on suicide watch.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=619286876
spess
>>144059845
looks neat
any idea how long it will take till we can play it?
>>144059845
>Underwater battles and underwater vehicles
want
bumpo
>>144062726
>any idea how long it will take till we can play it?
If you use that sketchy russian facebook knockoff Im pretty sure you can play it right now. I forget its name.
But thats literally the only way to get it right now.
On their indieDB page and even that steam greenlight page is says the game is coming out on May.26th, but that was days ago. People are asking whats up and if it got delayed, but they are russian devs that hardly have any contact with anyone so people are just waiting.
It looks like it could be alot of fun.
>>144065450
I hope they stole the current wheel physics of Robocraft.
>>144059845
I remember that game, it was like steam punk robocraft, it actually looked really good, glad I don't need to use Russian Facebook to use it.
I know it isn't egg but that new kirby game looks cool as fuck. It's all robot enemies and some company wants to mechanise everything, whispy woods is now clanky woods, meta Knight is mecha Knight eat, and the final boss isa new clockwork comet like comet nova in milky way wishes (that yellow cat clock face thing you have probably seen me post made in a bunch of games). [/spoilers]
>watching the few lps
>want to see people's reactions to seeing an old face as the big bad
>what the fuck is going on? Who is this? Is it a cat?
>this boss makes no sense
>>144059845
Doing a terrible mic-less stream of it if any of yous want to watch.
Windows only game on linux so it's a bit buggy.https://www.twitch dot tv/bobdabiscuit/
>>144068176
build a tofu
>>144028078
Probably this
>>144068176
How are you playing Cykacraft?
>>144069154Bob is Russian.
> The 1st
> of June
> June 1st
> JUNE 1ST
> FACTORIO
FUCKIN
UPDATE
WHEN
>>144030039
>.exe
>implying the Universe runs on Windows
>>144030565
>string theory
God doesn't play dice anon.
>>144030363
Thats not dragonforce.
>>144034383
>space engine now has black holes like that one
>>144069613
No, he plays the guitar.
/egg/ is away....
>>144072702
kek
>>144070160
wait space engine has accretion disks now?
>>144073296
looks good...
>>144073507
Here is from closer
>>144073507
>>144073637
not as kino as interstellar, but i'll take it
do they come in hotter colors than red?
>>144073684
This are the pics i have.
>>144073752
>>144059845
Now that's real neat. Hope custom games and platooning is a thing.
Is Barotrauma /egg/?
>>144073885
>>144073976
>>143984128
What game is this?
>>144074095
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>144073964
no, barotrauma is /ss13/ when it doesnt have an alive general of its own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd-nkLFUUqE
Never ever
