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>>143666502
>ALWAYS KEEP your 3 UP
First for slit wrists
Why does Sonicor take 2-3x as many shots as every other weapon to kill nullifiers? Which trash secondary should I forma then
Are people making bets that they will revert trinity in some way?
>Mynki said that anime was an inspiration for Warframe
140 Fullarton Street, Suite 1800
London, Ontario, Canada
Threadly reminder, "complaint" letters go here.
Warframe : Where the developers are building their dream game but discounting the actual player's experience.
Tonkor "rework" when? pls DE
as a forumshitter I demand others play this game the way it was meant to be played.
nth forI want to fucking kill myself
>>143667126
who cares how are you still using that thing?
>>143666845
beam weapons and throwing star weapons are good against nullies
Mag is cute!even if she's a rotting corpse
>Sortie 3 Interception
>Be Mag in a pub, was the only one with CP
>Debuffing enemy armor left and right
>Ease with kills everywhere
>Downed often because Mag is squishy even with Quick Thinking
I saw she starts need to cast 3 Polarize (Casting Polarize by itself) to debuff armor once enemies get around 89 and up some still need two. However it was still a great feeling.
I really need to get some Suda weapons for energy and magnetic bonus for Crush.
So I like Loki, Ivara and Chroma.
Will all three of those get nerfed as soon as possible too?
>>143667126
SOME GUY ON VENUS WAS STEALING ALL MY KILLS
NERF THE TONKOR
>>143667019
Only complaints? Why not some beer? And don't forget to buy TennoCon ticket today!
i've quit since syndicates were introduced what has changed and is it still a grind fest?
>>143667126
It's a shitter's first crutch, anon. Get over yourself.
I know
I know I've let you down
I've been a fool to myself
I thought I could live for no one else
Can I trade a loki prime set for a vauban prime?
>>143667573
If i told people to send bombs/laced letters i get the pigs breathing down my neck.
a magnetize and polarize build would have same status? max range then 190 power and no negative duration?
I'm currently grinding spy to 1 forma valkyr, mag is next. am I to take that valk build is now maxed eff or the ramp up becomes too much? hysteria is a critical low status memelee weapon?
since DE is spineless and won't admit they screwed up what changes can we hope for trinity? ev dying means no support role from her, who would replace her?
I'm feeling absolute regret. my unforma mag and valk were only used in very special occasions. even my ash was untouched. what did I missed of these frames? what was left of them?
>>143666889
they will nerf EV and call her balanced, mark my words
>>143667842
Probably, you can pretty much trade anything for anything if someone is dumb enough.
I've seen some Loki/Vauban WTT so you might get lucky.
>>143667126
>craft it
>enjoy it
>enjoy it even more
>show it to your friends
>getting bored of it
>never use it again
lifecycle of a tonkor
>>143667842
noone would be willing to lose money on it
>>143667506
stealth may lose its damage bonus
chroma will get vex and cold nerfed strongly
>People do not understand balance
>Either Nerf Trinity
or
>Nerf Zenurik
>Trinity had to go so we could live
Simulacrum Mesa test:
Tested against lv100 HG with Shooting Gallery active. At least two tests were conducted for each weapon, no significant variation due to RNG.
AkSomati/AkStilleto:
>identical maxed builds building corrosive using 90% elementals
>TTK: 2.8s, no significant difference between the two weapons
Mesa:
>272% power strength, the very upper end of usable
>PM secondary modded identical to first
>TTK: 4s
PM is clearly worse against HGs than either of the top 2 secondaries. However, this is without taking into account PM's ramp-up damage, and I also aimed for headshots. Overall, I think we can say that PM is worse against heavies.
Sortie Mesa Test:
Pubbed sortie 3 (Grineer Intercept, physical enhancement). Only 2 CP. PM easily 1-shot (2 bullets) the non-Heavy units; Simulacrum testing with only 1 CP showed the same result.
PM was significantly easier to use than secondaries (much better range, no need to aim), and against non-heavy units, had significantly better TTK than secondaries (since PM essentially instant-kills them). Ended up with 46% of total damage dealt in a team of 4. It's safe to say that despite lower DPS in Simulacrum testing against HGs, PM significantly outperforms secondaries in-mission.
0 survivability mods. Got downed several times; twice to Eviscerator blades which I guess go through SS; once to a kavat one-shotting me; once or twice to others I can't remember.
>tl;dr - Mesa is viable for endgame. Good DPS with Peacemaker, which significantly outperform secondaries in-mission. Has troubles with survivability.
Does hydroid passive slam tentacle get affected by any damage or is it simply like ult tentacle
If so, what can be the best melee to slam around
>>143668214
I know what needs nerfing
enemy armor scaling
now go back to the forums and keep shilling there. just remember to get paid in USD instead of plat.
NightFrost?
NightFrost.
What's afunframe if you just want to kill shit, not be a cc machine?
>>143668389
Jat Kitty
Eventually even this is going to get nerfed with all the CC potential it has.
>>143668486
But is it the fastest at slamming, or just does the most damage?
>>143668367
fucking hell can you remove steve money shot from your face for a moment?
the only okay thing is that you were downed only by memelee enemies. everything else about your post is rose tinted glasses that it's OK to cripple mobility for a nonexistent bonus.
does PM counts punch through? rof mods?
>>143668367
that's great to know, anon, thanks
survivability shouldn't really be a problem in a party since mesa should be taken to a mission with either a buffer or someone who can protect her, but it's good to know that she still gets downed easily
any word on how multishot, crit and status affect the outcome?
>>143668367
how did they manage to make her worse...
>>143668476
That actually looksneat.
Why don't you guys just accept the fact that you're not supposed, no ALLOWED to have any fun and should just buy plat everyday?
>>143668367
>Mesa is viable for endgame
https://my.mixtape.moe/fxzxsc.mp4
>>143668598
Neither really matter since you build it for blast and slap on the Kela augment. It's meant to make everything go flying.
started recently does the end game absolutely requires autistic theorycrafting?
>>143668480
fun to kill? don't know
fun to troll? limbo. banish teammates for the lulz
>>143668367
>be immune to ranged weapons
>only ranged weapon that can surpass immunity is a explosive rocket or a sharp dishware
>be dumb enough to not recognize this
>use a skill that prevents mobility completely
>"she's OK guys I'm just universally hated!"
>>143668920
But if I were purely trying to shit out as many squids as I could, what would I use them
>>143668480
Atlas, excal, valkyr, saryn, wukong or chroma. Some are far worse than others, but they're all fun.
>>143669019
>mfw people still don't know aboutrolling
>>143667747
But now
Through all the hurt and pain
It's time for me to respect
The ones who love me more than anything
>>143669052
I'm not too sure, actually. Daggers tend to be the fastest melee in the game, so it stands to reason they'd have the fastest slam, too.
Redeemer may also work. Mine is pretty fast, but I rarely use it for slam since the damage is shit.
>>143668747
bonus is not non-existent. PM pretty much instant kills non-heavy units, which makes it significantly more useful than Aksomatis/stilletos for general mission play. In fact this was true before the Mesa change in starchart. If PM deals equivalent damage as your guns, it's always going to be easier and more efficient damage-wise because of its range and the fact you don't need to aim it.
The mobility issue is not nearly as significant as you make it seem. I only activated PM for a few seconds at a time to let it clear out enemies.
so how bad is it? Valykr is now Oberon tier sell fodder?
I never got to cheese higher level content with her either.
>>143669321
I want to cream all over that butt
>>143669401
no change
>>143667747
>>143669321
So with sadness in my heart
I feel the best thing I could do
Is end it all and leave forever
>sortie 2 rescue
>hostage rescued
>waiting at the extraction without a fucking mark or his HP for over 3 mins since rescue
sleeked
>>143669401
If you don't have an efficiency build you're fucked. But you probably already had an efficiency build so the change isn't that bad
>>143668751
PM and Aksomatis/AkStilletos had identical builds:
Hornet Strike
Barrel Diffusion
Lethal Torrent
P. Target cracker
P. Pistol gambit
Convulsion
Pathogen rounds
P. Heated charge
For AkSomati/AkStilleto this is the maximum damage build (interestingly, 90% elementals did significantly better than dual-stats for AkStilletos also).
I'd wager this is also the max damage build for PM also. Only thing that might be different are fire rate mods, which I have not tested
>>143667747
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>>143669483
What's done is done it feels so bad
What once was happy now is sad
>>143669361
So I picked up kogake and started just attacking, every pair of hits spawns a tentacle for some reason
Too bad No-fun-jews capped them at three tentacles, if I spawn more they just release the mob and get lost within 3 seconds
>>143668808
Yeah I love Grineer aesthetics.
The colors are:
Lotus Palette Row 4 Column 3
Orokin Palette Row 11 Column 5
Lotus Palette Row 5 Column 5
Fire Palette Row 9 Column 5
Fire Palette Row 8 Column 3
Best reproduction of Nightwatch colors I can get.
>catalyst required sac for third title
>>143669262
>lowlvl friend asked me to accompany him in t2 def
>'don't worry I can banish the cryopod'
>mfw I banish him the whole time
>mfw he couldn't do shit and didn't know why
>mfw gentleframe is a master in the tenno arts of trolling
>duration is affected reversely on ev and wol
>so 200% duration means 5 sec ev, 12% duration means ~18 sec ev
>ev target killed before it's time will only give a half the energy it currently does
>bless has a base DR of 30% affected by power str. maybe 35% if DE feels kind. the bonus lies on no self harm for bless
>likely it will still have the range shit wich is in modded because it's a retarded limitation in the game design
>btw her wol/ev trick died a long time ago
>link should get something. fuck me I don't know what.
how is this?
>>143667747
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>>143669726
I'll never love again
My world is ending
>>143668367
Good shit anon
Have you bought your new 10ogen skins yes, /wfg/? Better hurry, once there's too many people with them you'll no longer look unique.
>>143669401
nah. Valkyr is still top
just have an eye on your energy bar
>>143669380
why is pm better that any auto shotty
or hek
goddamit stop shilling for once. look at what you wrote, how can you defend this
>>143670080
>>143669682
Thanks... back to farming for continuity I guess.
>>143669997
Bought a skin for a frame no one uses in pubs.
It will never be overused.
>>143669050
what the fuck are you talking about?
>>143667747
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>>143669945
I wish that I could turn back time
Cuz now the guilt is all mine
Can't live without the trust from those you love
>>143668367
>top 2 secondaries
>>143669780
According to google, Tipedo and Dual Zoren have the highest base attack speed in the game. The wiki says they both have the "highest", not even in class, just highest. But Zoren is listed as having 1.17 and Tipedo as 1.33, so I don't know what they're basing off of.
>>143667747
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>>143669945
I know we can't forget the past
You can't forget love and pride
Because of that it's killing me inside
>>143670458
that is a speed multiplier based on their animation. it's only useful to compare same animation weapons.
REAAAAAACTOR ALERT
DAMAGE CONTROL
>>143670458
It doesn't say highest for Zoren, just "high base attack speed"
>>143670680
thats the new event, retard
>>143670685
Must have read it wrong.
>>143670458
Like I said it doesn't matter anymore, they are capped at three
>>143667747
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>>143670503
It all returns to nothing
>>143670761
DELETE THIS
anyway to end Mag suffering?
POTATO ALERT
>>143670821
Alright, figured you might want to min-max for fastest tentacle spawning anyway.
>>143670680
>>143670962
>Proxy Retribution
Nope, not falling for that shit again.
>>143671005
Yea but since kogake every 2 hits shits out a tentacle without a need to slam
>this ded thred
they really killed their game, those madmen. after i'm sure they're done with the damage control alerts i'm leaving too, just downloaded [PROTOTYPE] yesterday so i've already got a new game ready. might also play new vegas, i dunno. probably gonna avoid multiplayer stuff for a bit, whofarm has left a bad taste in my mouth.
what about you guys, what will you do when you finally leave?
>>143671225
no they didnt. forumites are gobbling it up. youtubers are praising the shit out of them and their playercount is still steady.
the normies won anon.
>>143671225
I reinstalled Darkest Dungeon, and it's pretty fun. I haven't played it for over a year, so it's neat going through all the changes and stuff.
>making a silly video on void sabotage
>lost all hope for it
>what is this on wmm
>bless video scratches
>note, get orkpower permission to show his build
>and a pic of his trinities
...o-oh
>>143670962
defending a target with literally no shields against 20 waves of hyenas? again? no thanks
>>143671320
>forumshits and jewtubers are asslickers
tell me something i don't know. the steady playercount is concerning but why would they damage control like this if they don't feel like they fucked up?
>>143670861
now buy more plat.
>>143671320
3 youtubers already called it shit. they say even volt was a net nerf
go back to pleddit and don't forget your mom's phone to up vote yourself. also get paid in USD, dumbass
>>143671225
retards that play this game feel good when the devs nerf some shit to the ground. They make threads saying "I'm not mad at all! Thanks DE" and feel good, because they think that if they continue playing after fun is destroyed they're skilled and good at the game.
So 99% of the player base is rejoicing at the nerfs.
>>143671553
when isnt DE in full damage control?
they always are like this.
its probably why the retards praise them in the first place.
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>>143670861
It just keeps tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down
>>143670962
>Proxy
No. Not again. I did it three times in a row with friends. The horror.
So many potatoes.
>>143671553
the official youtubers haven't said shit yet
they will need some tremendous brain gymnastics to pull this one
I wonder how Planetside 2 is doing these days.
>>143671756
It looks like a piss easy mobile defense this time
>>143667747
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>>143671704
It all returns to nothing
>>143671872
Apparently it got better.Also seem to have been bought out from sony
>>143671683
this is the only primarily pve game where i've seen almost an entire forum rejoice about nerfs, this is absurd. they're battered housewives
>>143671860
not really
just like with the saryn nerf
>"lol u think it nerf u a monkey :^)"
>>143670129
I already fucking explained this, how can you be this fucking retarded? PM has significantly better range than guns such as AkSomati/Stilletos, and the difference is only bigger against shotguns which have shorter range. PM also doesn't require aiming. FFS it's clear you've never actually played wih PM in an actual mission
here's a webm. 20 lv100 frontier hellions (chosen because they don't fuck off into cover), killed by PM in ~9s. The efficiency is unrivaled by weapons like AkSomati or shotguns; the only ones that come close are explosives like Tonkor, but even that requires considerable time spent running into range and aiming
Note that this was DPS test. You can clearly see Mesa getting shit on by explosives, and the only reason I didn't die was because I killed them so quickly.
Overall, I'd give Mesa a B- right now. I said she was viable. I never said she was good.
>>143671756
What?
I did it with 3 MR3 Excalibur while pubbing, was a Frost Prime with a Synoid Simulor myself.
Only one of them died once.
How did you manage to not do this first try?
>>143672040
We didn't fail. I just had to help 3 people separately.
>>143670962
Its mobile defense. There's hyena's but its easier, dont let more than 2 do that fire line aoe move on the terminal. it will get it dangerously low
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>>143671907
I just keep letting me down letting me down letting me down
>>143672270
Oh, I'm dumb as shit then.
Sorry mate.
>>143672040
Not him, but my first party had an Ivara that spammed ziplines all through and around the defense point, making reloading dangerous.
>>143671320
>youtubers are praising the shit out of them
No quite a few of them are upset.
The one who started the """""chimp""""" is being completely passive about it. Since he deleted his previous saryn sprig videos I doubt he would be retarded enough to do it again.
>>143672463
Not at all. I should have just worded it better. My apologies.
>>143672631
why the fuck would ziplines affect reloading in any way?
>>143671756
I did it with a Frost Prime and I was a Mag before the rework.
Only two of us in the pub and we kicked ass.
>>143672946
Because I often reload before I empty the magazine and I never changed the hotkeys, so both my reload and zipline keys are set to X.
>>143672961
>giving blanket statements with zero evidence - worse than zero evidence, zero reason
any retard can give claims without backing them up. But don't worry, you're in the good company of most of /wfg/
>shitters actually have trouble with these alerts
what the fuck is wrong with you people
So i haven't tried out mags rework yet, can polarize still nuke corpus or is she even more useless?
>>143673232
Er, my interaction* key.
>>143672009
you can easily do better with a varelok. you can one shot them with it.
7 seconds for them is impressive thanks to how they dodge but you keep forgetting to compare them to already existing weapons.
varelok would be faster and wouldn't endanger you with stillness against their rockets that should bypass the defense skill
>>143673232
if you never changed your hotkeys you could reload with r since thats the default option.
i fail to see how this is anyones fault but yours.
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>>143671907
In my heart of hearts
I know that I could never love again
>>143673101
>Did it with a Mag, Trinity, and Mirage before the "update"
I forever remember their sacrifices.
>>143673339
magnetize is her go to skill now
it's okay ish mostly because it's cover + AoE. she's definitely more generic.
>>143673362
are you really this retarded
>>143671225
Mwo again i guess. The new shit since i last played years ago seems interesting.
>try finding randoms for proxy cause no friends
>host migration
>host left squad disbanding
>2 embers and lvl 18 mesa
id rather eat a bullet
>>143667991
and Limbo will become the best energy dealer in the game, as Broberon is the best healer now.
BALANCE.
repostang
>>143666634
>>143673362
damage is only part of it, the main draw of PM is its range and the fact it doesn't require aiming
this is the 3rd time I've hard to repeat this
Make a webm of you killing 20 lv100 hellions with a v.marelok in 9s
>>143671225
Prototype is a fun game. Avoid the second one at all costs.
>>143673706
>Broberon
Either bait or an actual forumite.
>>143673232
I'm surprised there is someone that actually actively reloads with x instead of r.
>>143673843
second one isn't that bad, it's just worse.
the fact they casualized the power switching made me mad though
So /wfg/, what's the best build for Beastmaster Oberon?
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/652695-trinity-revisions-feedback-post-update-1813/?page=15
>Shitters everywhere
>>143674009
>Build a house
>Build a noose
>Apply noose to neck
>Hang yourself.
>>143674009
Good one, Anon.
You almost had me there.
>>143674140
Do I need Forma for noose?
>>143673391
Ive lost everything...
>>143674009
Actually I might put a potato in him and actually mod him if these trinity changes are permanent.
>mesa
>decent disarm on shooting gallery
>95% dmg resist on shatter shield
>room clear with pinpoint accuracy and no fallof with a crit secondary build
>shitters are still bitching
Fine with me. The less retards touch her, the more chances for another buff might come up.
>>143674225
Three for Fury, Primed Reach, and Pressure Point
>>143674286
>The less retards touch her, the more chances for another buff
That's not how it works newshitter
>>143673843
i've already played both a long time ago, 2 wasn't that bad but the worse story and cars not denting when you ran on them let me down. it's been a couple years since i've played either tho.i pre-ordered both prototype games. i know pre-ordering is bad but i was really hyped for prototype. i liked it a lot so of course i also got hyped about 2
>>143674286
>decent disarm on shooting gallery
this has to be a joke.
Building SG for range means you're sacrificing so much for her other abilities
All this for a garbage CC
>>143674250
>>143674590
>you will never be soothed by a motherly Trinity
>>143674250
That one hurt a little
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>>143674250
E V E R Y T H I N G
I wonder if that faggot Ork already hanged himself.
>>143674286
red crit build is fun, too
>>143674286
mesa now has more dr that trinity
kill me
>>143674885
I wonder who could be behind this post
>>143668367
Show me your Mesa Build's percentages.
>>143674885
I wonder if that faggot poolboy hanged himself
>>143675007
Tell meI'm genuinely curious if you get it right.
>>143674834
>they took my trin
>then my mirage
>the frames i've lost
>they just keep hurtingyou feel it too, don't you
>>143673362
It's official (again.) FORUM-SHITTERS ARE EVERYWHERE and those WB members who haven't been taught anything are EVERYWHERE
>>143673339
Good at nothing to be honest, every frame will be Oberon'd in the near future.
just use nova or Equinox and 4 CP.
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>>143674834
Everything that matters to me
Matters in this world
>>143675004
mesa was decapitated for months and it was completely DE's fault for not nerfing the other frames that make her an auto turret
Oberon just become underpowered overtime with the constant enemy changes.
>>143673786
>Make a webm of you killing 20 lv100 hellions in 9s
you use nova and tonkor/SS?
>still haven't gotten nova systems out of the derelict
>I've gotten 3 forma with the exact same drop rate
just kill me
>>143675075
here is the Mesa build in that webm
I do not recommend r7 BR, which causes PM to drain 4.5 energy/s. I am currently using r5 BR, which hits PM's 3.75 drain cap (only reason I didn't use r5 for the test was because I didn't have it earlier, I just bought an unranked BR and leveled it to r5).
0 survivability mods. Whether Vit is better than TF/BR for general use remains to be seen
>>143675613
>pulled 2 systems in 2 consecutive runs
>had to buy the fucking chassis because it's a god damn myth, much like Ash bp
>DE cocksucking forumites coming out the woodwork
so, hows mag's "change", i mean is the armorpen worth it?
or is it a flat nerf?
The latest update seems to have broken my client.
Trying to enter any Void mission causes the game to crash on the loading screen.
t-thanks I guess
I suppose I'll go play Paladins or something then
>>143671225
desu the game isn't really any different with the nerfs. People are just tired of these arbitrary lateral changes that don't increase the fun or "balance" in any way.
I'm more upset that Greedy Pull didn't make a return to gathering all the loot for everyone. This is more a QoL thing.
Seems like a no-brainer solution to their "everyone uses carrier 98% of the time" problem.
GIVE US GREEDY PULL!! WHAT DOES IT MATTER?!!! YOU"VE ALREADY NERFED EVERYONE AND DESTROYED OUR CHEESE!!
>>143676219
Did you ever play a lvl 100 sortie excavation?
Thanks to the energy absorbtion Valkyr is practically useless now.
Talking about the nerf AND the cold damage which additionally drains your energy.
Can someone post pics of the Peace Maker targeting reticle size with different range mods?
>>143676507
>Talking about the nerf AND the cold damage which additionally drains your energy.
Last I've seen EV is still a thing, and so are energy pizzas. You can still do it if you really want to.
I got fresh edge, /wfg/
>>143676560
Please for the love of god fuck off.
>>143676560
range difference is negligible
>>143676919
I'm sorry, do you want me to cry about nerfs? Would that help me fit in?
>>143676813
post it then
>>143676626
Are you aware that you're not receiving energy while in hysteria except from blue orbs?
>>143677293
I have read up that range seems to only affect the final reticule, but that was before the rework. Anybody knows if it affects how much it diminishes per shot or the startig reticle?
>>143677397
Are you seriously crying about the only nerf that actually did nothing?
>>143676813
Where, Anon?
>>143677397
What's stopping you from dropping hysteria for a few seconds to refill?
You're being contrarian on purpose.
>>143672007
The idiot AI tends to focus on capping one point in interception, so frames like Ivara and Equinox can sit there spamming that point with sleep, then use CL daggers to finish off the remaining enemies and repeat. Sometimes the sleep bugs out the cap point and it'll be continually blinking aka in process of being taken over, even though there is no enemy around, however it never ends. The shit AI doesn't go for points that are in the process of being contested, and neither does it go to cap a third if two are already being capped. If you manage to bug out two different cap points the enemy never even tries to cap the points back. All you have to do is survive the boredom.
>>143677617
wow youre fucking stupid, literally forumnigger tier trash, go and stay go
>>143676813
m-muh image
>>143677676
DELETE THIS
>doing syndicates
>go to next title
>back out of the menu
>"you must pick a reward"
>clicking redeem doesn't do anything
>can't leave because I haven't picked a reward
cool, thanks de
>>143677712
>i'm too inept to press 4
Nice smokescreen retard.
>get last piece of vauban prime, the systems
>craft it
>now 28k cryo away from Sibear instead of 19kPopsicle never ever
>>143678252
>i've never gone past 30 minutes on endless! -the post
>>143678002
Nope :D
>>143678674
I still can't believe they did something this retarded and got away with it
So recently my PC broke and I am forced to use my sister's shitty $800 PC, I played Warframe for a bit and it red screened, is there any way I can play Warframe decently with this setup?Please note any insults you guys make will be taken and used against my sister later today.
>>143679239
fuck her in the ass
Are they going to fix Volt? This must be the worst rework ever. He cant shock half the mobs at all now.
>>143679239
Throw it out her window
>>143679239
>$800 PC
Alright, this is bait.
>>143679239
>800$
How the fuck do you get a pc this shit for that high of a price
Why are you still here? Why do you still have ded game on hard drive?
>>143679239
>800$
>for that turd
I would not take it even if I were to pay 800 in monopoly money.
>>143678674
dont grind for it, its shit
>>143679239
Looks like the Corpus got to your sister.
>>143679470
no it isn't
>>143679386
I wish it was. I so wish it was.
>>143679435
The guy who sold it to her was a massive jew, she's also a massive idiot.
>>143679467
That's a good one, I'm using it.
I'm still wondering if it's possible to play on it, even if it's horrible it's the only thing I have to keep me from going insane from lack of vidya. I have everything on the lowest setting but I was wanting to make sure I couldn't edit the ini or some magical tech wizardry to help.
>>143679470
wow nice I guess I shouldn't have gotten 99% of stuff in this game and stayed MR3 this whole time
>>143676507
>excavation
>valk
>cant handle minuscule energy drain increase
maximum shitter
>>143679579
>Look up "Corpus Jew"
>http://www.jcccorpuschristi.com/Home.html
I couldn't help but laugh
>>143679239
What I got and i5 and a 760 for 550 last year? How is this 800
>do all my experience grinding on sechura
>hours a day
>no draco, i just hit sechura over and over
>still not able to keep up with my credit needs
How the fuck do people have credits? Jesus christ fuck
>>143671032
>>143671464
>>143671756
What's the fucking problem?
I have been playing 2 weeks and did both easily in a pub. I just brought Frost because it's a fucking defense mission and I am not retarded. Why WOULDN'T you bring bubble boy?
Havent play in a while. Can someone give me a quick summary of how Mag, Trinity and Volt were all nerfed?
>>143679590
>paste has been removed
shit tiermong what did you do
>>143679778Sorties, Law of Retribution. If you do all that in one day, you can make anywhere between 200k and 400k depending if you find the credit booster or not.
Do I delete this?
>>143679778
Sorties, credit booster + T4 capture
>>143679886
ah shit I linked the edit pastebin
brb remaking
>>143679334
his 4 is shit but afaik his speed and shield are better
just don't 4 and expect to stun everything
>>143679334
It's strictly better than it used to be, so is shield
Shame speed got nerfed to shit though
>>143679590
Page not available faggot
spores r us
>>143677794
>>143680030
>Better
Yeah nah, you haven't played volt for more than 20 minutes.
>>143679239
This makes my poorly made tower look good compared to this monstrosity.
>do cipher to start survival mission
>cipher decides to cancel itself
>didn't even press ESC
>>143680026
His 3 is capped to four shields now. I think that alone makes all of the changes a net nerf. His new buffs are relatively insignificant in comparison.
>>143679590
>EV, most usable skill untouched
>A+ to C
Lmaoing at your life
>>143679778
Void missions and sorties give tons of creds
>>143679847
They were not nerfed. Its just that the retards from here hate change and anything that isnt press button to win its shit. Oh and by the way these are the same people who claim the game is too easy and boring BUT DONT CHANGE MY OVERPOWERED FRAMES PLS.
>>143680124
And you haven't used old overload against anything above level 10
That shit was so garbage useless, the new one does more damage and disables for longer, it is flat out better
>>143679602
mastery fodder and ugly to boot, only crafted it cause I have too much cryotics, its not worth the farm
>>143679641
1 weapon wont make a difference and why would you endure this absurd grindwall for mastery fodder, you will only be disappointed
Fucked up the link, here is the real link:
http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG
NERFED edition
I've done playtesting with many of the nerfed frames. Grades/descriptions/builds are HIGHLY PRONE TO CHANGE
Changes since last time:
>Mesa: grade raised from D to B-
>Mirage: grade lowered from A to B+
>Trinity: grade lowered from A+ to C+ (RIP)
>Volt: grade unchanged
READ THE PASTEBIN FOR MY THOUGHTS AS TO WHY I CHANGED THEIR GRADES! Don't just look at the grade change and start shittalking.
Frames I still need to test:
>Excalibur: Preliminary testing in sortie 3 (Grinner Intercept) actually doesn't seem too bad. Damage is still decent. Likely drop from A to B+.
>Mag: Absolute clusterfuck of a frame right now. I barely understand how her new abilities work.
>Valkyr: haven't tried her yet but people seem to be okay with the nerf. Apparently the energy drain is still easily sustainable. Grade will likely remain unchanged (B+).
Note that many frames that were untouched this patch will likely have their grades changed. Power levels are relative, not absolute. For example, with Blind Mirage kill, Vauban will now rise from A- to A. Similarly, with Mag's Corpus annihilation gone, Equinox is now the best damage-dealing frame for Corpus, so she will likely rise by B to B+.
(Pic unrelated, it's what Volt's speed pickup looks like to allies)
>>143680124
Why did you ever use volt's 4 before? Why would you use it now? Are you well?
>>143680098
And the last one for now.
Is this edge or not?
>>143680348
DE sent this guy here.
>posted it twice
>>143679778
Don't forget to go through your inventory and sell your hundreds of oberon blueprints for a free 100-400k boost
>>143680294
why its mastery fodder? And I think it looks nice
>mag helmet alert
fuck you
>>143680294
>MR 22 is now barely available to non founders
>1 weapon won't make a difference
'k'
>>143680691
But she is better now.
>>143680348
I usually don't disagree with you tierqueer, but C for trin? Really? EV is her most used ability and with stretch of w/e bless is still pretty useful on an EV build. Sure blessbuilds are kill, but that alone taking her down this much...?
>>143680191
EV Trin lategame is significantly less needed with the introduction of Zenurik. It's still good for shit like Draco, but the guide doesn't grade based on that.
>>143680348
>Trinity
>Absolutely gutted by the nerf.
i disagree
EV is still god-tier, take in account that most people don't even pay attention to the schools of focus and that a proper EV trinity has the overshields augment
>>143680691
>Caring about non-arcane helmets
>>143679470
Yeah I'm not. Maybe during double drop weekend. But it would still take forever then.
I have a ghost clan and had to use tons of cryo for research but even if I hadn't, I still wouldn't have enough.
>>143680691
Mag's alternate helmets are fucking ugly anyways.
Her default vortex face is the best.
>>143680026
>>143680030
Stun doesnt work on some mobs AT ALL, neither from ult nor from Shock. Volt is broken, obviously DE never tested it.
>>143679239
I would bind your feet to your hands and then tie them behind your head. Next I would place you in the outhouse and make you my meat toilet where I would fuck, shit and piss in you repeatedly for a month.
>>143680793
>>143680762
>>143680191
Maybe I was too harsh on Trin. But I've never ran into energy problems after popping my maxed Zenurik. The tier list only grades based on endless sorties/long void runs, so for the vast majority of the mission you will have Zenurik active.
What grade would you give her? B? B-?
>see skin in the workshop
>looks great
>they add it to the game
>looks like shit now
???
>>143681226
>Stun doesnt work on some mobs AT ALL
Are you implying it used to?
Again nigga shut the fuck up Volts 4 is still garbage but its still better than what it used to be.
