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>>143646040
> Play PvP
> Suddenly you can't move for some reason, can't even break cc.
> You see someone in the horizon
> You've seen this before
> It's someone using Critical Rush
> Like a deer caught in the headlights you can just watch as this train of destruction runs towards you
> Zenimax decided that allowing someone to move out of the way as they see someone for several seconds charging at them just wasn't fair
> As he rushes towards you, you know what to expect once he's in reach
> An endless barrage of wrecking blow
> "Right so this patch we're going to focus on stamina abilities. Also we're going to buff poison damage, also we saw that Stamina DK was the top damagedealer so we gave them a buff and made sure their stamina abilities gets stronger due to being based on position instead of fire"

Thanks Zenimax

>>143646565
stam DK is getting a buff? nice!

>>143646565
based
my main is a stamina DK

stam NB for pvp - imperial or bosmer?

>>143646718
race?

>>143647092
New poisons in Dark Brotherhood coming up, as well as a bunch of NB abilities changing to disease means bosmer's resists should make fighting them easier.

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Having a limit on how many characters you can delete per day is arguably one of the worst game decisions made by ZOS

I just started playing recently and was trying out different characters and now I can't fucking play until I get more deletes, because I decided on what I want to main, but the name I want to use is in currently taken by a character I plan to delete.

Why would they limit deletes? WHY THE FUCK

>>143649762
Bots apparently. Early on, there were easy to get to, single use quests that would give good gold and were easily automated.

You could make your first alt before your main? or get a character to level 8 quickly as a crafting alt?

>>143649762
You get one delete back per 24 hours from your last deletion.

This limit killed gold spammers over night in the PC version.

Don't make so many characters maybe?

>>143649938
>>143650002

I suppose if it means less bots and mail spam, it isn't such bullshit.

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Minion now has ads, don't update it.

>>143650873
Thanks for the warning, almost updated.

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is ESO graphically demanding as fuck or just poorly optimized. Even on medium I get fps drops to 30s when I enter towns. It's mostly smooth 60 outside of them though even on ultra

Right now I just lowered resolution, shadows, draw distance and it's tolerable, but still getting drops.

Will I just have to play on low for 60 fps, or is there something that can be done.

Bought this game recently, impressed with the variety in combat it offers, but still clueless overall.

Would I be gimping myself if I played as a nightblade with a 2hander for example?

>>143653682
2h nightblade is the done think afaik

anyone know which addon gives the armour damage percentage, when you view what you're wearing?

>>143652776

I've not had any problems with performance running on high, and I have a dinky weiner GTX650, 8gb ram, and a 6 year old 3ghz black edition.

If you have the minimap addon, you may want to uninstall it.

The second I installed that addon my FPS dropped by like 40 with ugly spikes during pop-ins. Second I uninstalled, went back to being smooth as butter.

Haven't had any sort of lag since.

So, how much does Executioner actually matter for 2h DPS in PvE?

I'd understand a 30% execute, or even a 25% execute, but 20% with a passive bonus at 15% just doesn't seem very good.

On most mobs that's literally one hit, and it's really just the same damage as Wrecking Blow with slightly less cast time.

Even on bosses it's usually only 5-10 hits before it's dead.

Wouldn't I gain a much greater overall bonus from slotting somthing like Evil Hunter instead, and just continue spamming Wrecking blow?

I'm only level 38 right now - will the bosses maybe eventually get enough health for it to be more useful?

>>143657617
>minimap addon

is that advanced UI?

I have it installed, but not enabled, because I couldn't figure out how to move that stupid minimap

>>143658087

I was talking about the Minimap addon by Fyarkin, but I don't use AUI. It's possible that might have it bundled in.

>>143657812
in dungeons where things have exponentially higher health the 300% execute damage will output far more dps than even perfect light weave wrecking blows

its also a very comfy combo in overworld pve to crit charge>wb>executioner with light weaves in between.

P2W is here.

>>143659852
yep, everyone's totally going to use the shitty crown store poisons over the leagues-better crafted poisons.

this is exactly just like the crown tri-pots and food, overall shittier, but convenient for anyone who can't utilize a crafting station.

What's the word on the street with how magicka sorcs are dealing with the too brief shields in the patch?

>>143652776
I'm only using a 950 and have 10Gigs of RAM and I have no qualms whatsoever playing it on High and even Ultra when the mood takes me

>>143646565
I just respecced my DK to stam. Dis gonna be fun.

>>143665697
What level were you?

>>143659852
Specially for crafters.

Fuck it I can't take it anymore

I had to take a break from this game last year when summer ended (college/job). It's summer again, what did I miss and am I too far behind?

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Please speak slowly, and try to explain this to me like you're speaking to a child - I'm afraid I don't quite understand. It appears that, via some invisible and unknowable force, this game is causing me to have fun.

You can be honest with me. Do I have a brain problem? Am I feverish? Is it fatal? I feel faint. My vision is getting dark. I feel death at my shoulder. No, false alarm, that's just some fucking Ayelid ghost trying to give me a quest.

>>143669189
Dark Brotherhood update on the 31st, lots of changes...

>>143670203
anon please I need you to bring me to speed, my clan's been dead for months and I feel a little overwhelmed again

>The next time you steal something from the most powerful necromancer in Tamriel, maybe you shouldn't hide it in a fucking crypt.

Abnur Tharn is fucking golden.

>>143668013
27

>>143670575
>>143670703
Samefag

>>143670594
hahah I just did that quest too
his bant is fucking excellent, even acknowledges good calls from that tall shewarrior when earns points

>>143658221

I don't think that's it then

>>143663405

the fuck is wrong with my game then

what view distance do you have?

I'm able to get solid 60 at high settings with view distance at 50 right now

>>143670594

It's hard not to like him, he's my favourite of the companions for sure.

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I need more colors.

Has anyone completed any fishing achievements?
How much time does it take to catch all the trophy fish for one zone?
Are there any optimal strategies for fishing that could save some time?

>Pair of argonians want to kill a dark elf in revenge for slavery
>Dark elf seems legitimately regretful for her family's actions and is sad that parents are dead
>Well okay I guess I can't just let them murder her
>Maybe I can confront the assassi
>Nope we kill them
>Whew we survived perhaps someday this stupid pact will be over and we can go back to owning slaves

God dammit

>>143675713
Hours per zone. Today I spent two hours and about 150 guts trying to catch that fucking Mud Lamprey in Deshaan without getting it. Well at least you get plenty of gold from selling Psijic Ambrosia or Perfect Roe.

What class is a good fit for argonian? Their abilities seem all over the place with maybe a small focus on playing a healer

>>143679789
Some people like them for tanks due to their unique racial ability of increased healing received.
The swimming speed has no practical use as far as I know. Any place that skill might be useful is usually full of deadly fish.

>>143680549
Swim speed is good for fleeing guards

>>143680742

>all argonians are good for is committing crimes

racist

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>>143681007

Does blocking lessen the effect of red AoE attacks?

>>143685168
Pretty sure it decrees all damage, even damage over time on you for some strange reason. It absolutely help against AoE tho.

For someone who just got this on ps4, what are some beginners tips?

>>143688168
Crafting is worth taking a look at and the sooner the better. Always have something on research. Save your money so you can buy a mount asap.

>>143688168
If you're a Skyrim adventurer, take a couple hours to learn to use the combat system effectively. You'll have a lot more fun if you feel powerful when adventuring.

I'm sure I missed the shitstorm about this here, but what do people think of 4K crowns for the Dro'Mathra Senche mount?

I think it looks cool, but there's no way in hell im condoning the price by paying that much. Voting with my wallet for this one.

>>143693909

Why would there be a shitstorm over cosmetics?

They can charge $100 for that shit and people will still buy it. That's the kind of people they're afer.

If it keeps the game from having invasive monetization I don't give a fuck.

>>143694123

The forums and subreddit were a shitstorm, people were furious. I'm not as much angry as I am just not willing to pay out.

I still think it's a stupid thing to do because they'd be making a lot more money from crowns by selling it for 2.5k like they do with other exclusives. More people would be willing to shell out to buy a new stock of crowns. I'm sure the ZoS thinking was "Let's charge more than people are likely to have saved in their wallets so they're forced to buy another large crown pack."

>>143693909
I don't care how other people spend their money as long as it's not p2w. I'm fine with the way the pay model is now and as long as Zenimax is making enough money they won't change it.

>>143693909
It's too much and there were smarter ways to market it desu.

Still, richkids will be richkids, so you can still see a fair amount of Dro'Mathra Senches around.

>>143694598
>"Let's charge more than people are likely to have saved in their wallets so they're forced to buy another large crown pack."
I do believe that is the very same reasoning behind the 500crown welcome wallet

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>>143693909
I completely missed that shitstorm. As long as it's not p2w I couldn't care less. This was in Deshaan on the EU server yesterday and they got mocked for spending so much on a mount.

Join the guilds faggots

If anybody plays Xbone EU, add me at TheEnkian. I'm looking to start a guild because nobody I know in real life plays on Xbone, they're either PC or PS4.

Any good stam DK builds? I'm aiming for PvP, but it wouldn't hurt to know some levelling tips as well.
Mentioning levelling, can you guys tell me the most essential Dragonknight skills (and 1h+shield)? I'm new to DK. Using heavy armor, aiming for 5 heavy + 2 med ultimately, is it a good setup or moar medium?

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So my main is an imperial stamina dragonknight, and I am trying decide on what my alt should be. I am enjoying my dragonknight but I play on him with a friend and don't want to work ahead of my friend.

I want to make a dark elf but I don't know what to do. Suggestions?

Do your secondary weapons don't give ultimate?

When I switch to my bow, nothing gives any ulti. And then for around 5 seconds after I switch back.

>>143705403
I'm leveling a stam DK dps with 2h/dw. 5 med, 1 light, 1 heavy.
The unstable flame is my standard opener
Burning talons and burning breath help a lot with those groups of three that are so common in pve. I chose Burning talons for the additional dps.
The chain pull thing is nice for maneuvering mobs to a safe place to fight and for the CC.
If you're ranged, stonefist is a good CC.

>>143705403
>1h+shield
It's really a tank skill line. 2h is good for a stam dps.

Why are the only people who use mics in this game black? I've heard maybe 20 different people using a mic in random campaign groups and almost every single one of them sounded black except for one hick white sounding dude.

>>143705570
DK skills are mostly melee, go ranged for different gameplay.
Dark elves have some flame damage racials. You could do a flame staff wielding sorc.

>>143708876

Black people have quality taste in video-games.

>>143709024
>flame staff

I will be honest; I hate the way staves play. Lighting staff is the only one I can bear, which is sort of my dilemma.

I had thoughts of starting a magplar but it seems dumb to use something other than a fire staff as a dark elf.

>>143688168
do at least enough crafting to unlock the hirelings for each craft, join a big guild hopefully with a trader and sell off any gold or purple materials you get from the hirelings

use the gold to buy a horse asap to start getting it upgraded and get the first few bank/bag upgrades

always have something researching in your crafting stations, starting on it early will result in a lot less headache later on

try to wear 1 piece of every kind of armor so you get skill ups, also try to have at least 1 class skill from all 3 trees to keep them leveled

when you hit 10 look up the cyrodiil skyshard map, join the non vet non champ map first if you want to do actual PVPing but you can guest into a vet map that your side dominates to collect more skyshards

>>143709527
I was more implying why is it only black people who use mics? I'm not convinced 95% of the population in the game is black but 95% of random mic users certainly are.

This was the NA PS4 server too, I would have thought black dudes would all be on xbones but now that I think about it the PS4 is kind of the main system for fighting game fans which = black people.

>>143709637
I have Dark elf magplar healer, flame staff/resto staff.
I think high elves have a lightning damage bonus.

>>143710553
6% fire/ice/lightning I think, still probably better off using a fire staff though because of burn

healing staff best staff

>>143711161
How good is stamina sorc on a dark elf? It seems like it is the closest to a spellsword, which would be my ideal character.

>>143711161
You could go bow with a flame enchant, but you're not going to get nearly as much out of racial bonus.
While I prefer the feel of a bow and the sneak attacks, I prefer the staff abilities to the bow abilities.

>>143710245
probs because a lot of black people are extroverted

>>143709024
And what for secondary?

>>143712447
And rapists

>>143712884
You could go for destro/resto for all ranged even if you're not healing. Resto gives you a self-heal and has some nice passives for magicka users.

>>143711398
staff so nice I equip it twice

Does anyone know around how much sustainWerewolf does fully upgraded?

I can do around 9k DPS single target in dungeons at 39 with Wrecking Blow spam, but my werewolf only does around 5k.

I'm just wondering if it's even worth it to start upgrading right now.

>>143718646
people have pulled 40k on ww in super short single target fights before, but that damage quickly goes down as the fight drags on. it's a decent morph for vet dungeons that aren't vcoa/icp/wgt.

>>143711398
Resto staff has it's advantages, but it lacks some of the nice features of the destro staff.
I like crushing shock for the interrupt on those healers and necromancers and the knockback of the flame staff's destructive touch is great for dealing with anything that gets to melee range.
That's why I like the desto/resto combo.

Pls don't die.

>>143708560
Any PvP skill choice tips? The Talons are quite disappointing to me, I thought they were a better version of sorc's Encase but their range is pitiful.

>>143708762
A-actually I wanted this character to be quite tanky. I might use 2h as the primary weapon and move 1h and shield to the back bar once I reach 15 lvl.

>>143730059
I haven't done a lot of pvp, so I can't offer much there.
The talons are for close melee only, you get right in the middle of the mobs, lock them down and go to work.
Tanky is fine and you can get through pve content solo with 1h+shield. It takes a bit longer to burn mobs down, but there is nothing more satisfying than shield bashing a caster to death in mid cast.

>>143730059
talons is good for draining your target's stamina, many people use shield charge from S&B and couple it with talons to CC lock people, to leave, they will have to either wait out both CC, or break free then dodge roll, the latter costing a lot of stamina.

you know what this game needs? hand placed unique items around the world in various locations people in the know can rush to like other tes games. When you walk into a dungeon in this game you have no real thought that maybe something good is hidden somewhere. I miss that feeling.

>>143693909
I think it looks cool. Happy with my current mount, so I didn't get one. It does tickle me a little how its pricing made a few people rage, which I will admit is probably a flaw in my character for which there is likely a name.

>>143733218

So much this. Even if it's just an extra momento or hat every now and then.

So how many of you guys consider ESO canon or TES fanfiction? I haven't seen any contradictions that stick out to me, but I'm also fairly blind to these sorts of things.

>>143739143

I consider it canon despite the while Cyrodiil jungle issue. Most do, some lorefags are just babies because they don't want the lore touched.

>>143669189
changes that will make stamina builds great again, I'm excited myself

>>143711647
lol what dark elf has specific passive for Fire damage, that race is more towards magic dk

>>143739847
The lore doesn't make the game, the game makes the lore.

>>143693909
Don't really care for any cosmetics, if I ever get a surplus of crown from getting sub then I might look into them but I won't be outright buying crowns anytime soon.

>>143739143
TES lore has room for contradictions built right into its fundamental cosmos, everything is canon.

>>143713969
Sounds nice, I'll probably do that

>>143694123
It keeps them from putting stuff like the craft bag behind a paywall, oh, wait...

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Why does the DB update have to hit the day after TW3 Blood and Wine? And why does the Dirty Bomb crate event still go on at that time? All while I gotta study for my master's exam :/
AND WHY DOES THE FUCKING LEGACY CAPTCHA ALWYS SAY I AM WRONG WHEN I AIN'T?

>Nidras, a thief?

Is there a way to get past this agegate bullshit? Or a fix for it to work on firefox?

>>143752715
Disregard this, I suck cocks.
Apparently agegate needs the tracker 'typekit by adobe' enabled to function.

>>143753003
what was that?

is there a use for posions now?

someone tell, this is the 100% deciding factor in wether ill give this game another shot or not

>>143754468
The poison patch will be released the 31th.

>>143755629
nice. i dont even care if the poison will be shit but crafting ravage stamina poitons without a single fucking use makes me go autist

>>143754347
That agegate thing which asks your age on the ESO webpage doesn't work with ghostery blocking the usual trackers.

>>143739143
Considering the trainwrecks that Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are for lore purists ESO is as canon as any other game. The fact that they have to consult Bethesda for any major lore decisions and the fact that they've said it's canon only solidifies it further.

I approach lore the same way you approach lore in the Warhammer universe; things aren't true and false as much as they're written to further the writers own agenda.

ESO have given me wood orcs, ancient argonian civilizations and letting me travel to one of the moons. More interesting than what I got out of Skyrim.

>>143755893
Oh, I see.

We really need a way to check out people's gear and slotted abilities. There's no way to know if a damage-dealer is good, bad or mediocre before you're half-way trough the dungeon.

Can anyone tell me how people are able to multi cast ultimates? I just watched this sorc cast two storm atronashs, then when that fight was over, he cast another two very soon after

>>143756250
There's an infinite ultimate exploit going around right now, expect a hotfix today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KosPhi1vchQ&feature=youtu.be

>>143757685
It's not an exploit but a 3rd party software. I'm not sure what they can do about it except banning people using it.

>>143761338
sounds fair, cheat engine, maybe?

>>143761338
>I'm not sure what they can do about it

they can do plenty. just because it might be software doesn't mean it's magically immune to ZoS developers

117th for barbershop when

>>143765165
it baffles me that even after 2 years or daily forum threads asking for it, it still isn't implemented

>>143765165
>>143765604
they are working on it still you fags

>>143766762
are they mentally challenged?

>>143756210
I could see people abusing this to kick anyone that uses a slightly different build from the "best" (i.e. ones from Deltia's site)

And you are still prone to getting that player that copies a great build from a YouTube video but has no idea how to use it.

cunt

>>143766969

Are Delita's builds even still relavent?

At least looking at Sorc builds, they're all from over a year ago. From what I know about the game so far a lot of the choices seem questionable.

>>143766969
> "best" (i.e. ones from Deltia's site)
I understand why you put those quotation marks there. So sure, skip the skills, but still allow me to see the equipment. I was more thinking about avoiding groups when you've a veteran rank 11 going around in half the gear green from veteran rank 8 and the like. Like it or not, not all players can do all dungeons with all gear. If someone gets one-shotted there's fuck all I can do as a healer.

>>143761338
How exactly are they doing this? Are they reading memory and editing it or something?

>>143772248
>when you've a veteran rank 11 going around in half the gear green from veteran rank 8 and the like
sounds like me

>>143772606
No idea, I haven't encountered it yet.

>>143773934
they exist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhNtQx2dIdU
Stamina sorc based on outsubstaining your enemies with dots and heals from the new surge.
What's your thought /tesog/

>>143733218
I'm not sure that would work so well in an MMO. If the items are any good, they will be well known immediately because everyone will be using them. Then you just look it up online and go get it.

>>143774095
>>143772606

As far as I know they're using Cheat Engine. The lag in Cyrodiil is a result of anti-cheat measurements. They've been fixing some of the lag and as a result stuff that worked years ago suddenly work again.

who the FUCK is sitting on all those wh40k names

>>143770398
No.

If you want builds go to tamrielfoundry. The only youtuber that has actual good builds is Alcast.

>>143778471
?

>>143777339
I remember seeing that video a little while back when I was looking for builds - did he post one of actual pvp with it?

I'm too bummed about how they wrecked sorc shields to even think about the new meta for stam sorc.

You guys are alive again? I swear this general comes and goes.

Nice to see you all back again.

>>143779427
Seems to be more active now 2bh.

I remember when you'd see one posted every few weeks and it'd get 15 replies before 404ing. Those were some sad times.

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>>143646629
>>143646718
>>143665697

Laugh all you want. Stamina based templars and dragonknights can solo veteran city of ashes but HOLD YOUR FUCKING DAEDRIC PRINCES seems like sorceres have a little too easy time in veteran maelstorm arena! we wouldn't want sorcerers to continue being good at the only thing the class excels at, right? After all we've some real problem if people can clear solo content and we need to focus on that instead of the fact that people can finish 4-player content solo without breaking a sweat! Who cares that sorcerers gets outbursted and outlasted in PvP or are useless in all roles in endgame trials because dem sorcersers m8 we need to keep em in check it's not like dragonknights and nightblades are balling out of control.

Fuck me.

>>143779302
Not that I know of.

>>143779623
Sorc is just such an annoying brainless class to deal with in PvP though. All they do is spam mines and shields and crushing shock. It might not be good but it sure is fucking tedious to deal with, especially in IC. No pity for the magSorcs.

>>143780351
You won't need to worry about their not really good, but tedious asses any more, friend. MagSorcs are now crafting writ alts.

>>143781139
>MagSorcs are now crafting writ alts.
why?

>>143781534
massive nerf to all shields and that crit buff that healed you on crit damage

>>143781662
I just made a mag sorc :)

>>143777891
thats how you do it in the singleplayer games as well

it still adds to the game when you go somewhere and peek in a little nook and see a thing

>>143780351
>All they do is spam mines and shields and crushing shock.
That's simply because everything else got nerfed and it's all you can do to survive.

>>143733218
I could see this work. Zenimax already have specific NPC's that only occurs during specific times and places. Werewolves and The Golden comes to mind. I wouldn't mind if they did something similar with a treasure chest.

Anyone have a good nightblade build?

>>143784756
The golden?

Quick question for really anyone willing to answer, but this game isn't canon is it? I really have no interest in playing it but I love lore like a fucking tolkienfag. I don't want to miss out on a potentially canon experiences.

It looks fun but I'm not really sold on it. Does the game even really matter story-wise?

>>143787178
The pvp vendors that shows up in Cyrodiil on weekends and sell monster helmets and end-game gear for either 100k gold or 200k alliance points. If you're v16 you should really have a look because she's selling Morag Kena's helmets this weekend.

>>143788524
It's 100% canon. If you like orcs, wood-elves and argonians you'll probably like it since they've gotten more love than in the rest of the games.

>>143788941
>It's 100% canon
Source? My ass.

>>143789078
Source: the Bethesda "loremaster" that Zeni have to go through to get any piece of lore approve.

>>143789078
https://twitter.com/tesonline/status/372017971423498240

All big decisions on lore literary have to be approved by Bethesda. The reason there's no Imga or Sloads is because Bethesda didn't wanted them in the game.

>>143789291
I don't think anybody trusts colonel sanders

>>143777339

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/db-stamina-sorcerer-dd/

Something like this looks more appealing to me desu. That build looks okay for pvp, but like it's going to be really boring.

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>>143789762
> Something isn't canon because I don't want it to be canon
Why even bother with lore to begin if you're going to behave like a child.

>>143792146
Because retcons are a piss-poor replacement for consistency.

So I haven't tanked in a very long time. I used to tank when everyone put all points into health due to the soft caps.

It may sounds strange but is stamina tanking viable these days? As in having all my skillpoints and enchantment on a heavy armour set in stamina? Or should I put all of em in health?

>>143788941
>>143789291
>>143789370
>>143792146

Well thanks, anons. Guess I'm going to have to buy ESO now. The game isn't too demanding, is it? My PC is complete trash

>>143792658
Oblivion retconned Cyrodiil jungle in the first place, and Skyrim retconned an entire dragon war in the past that's never been referenced before. And that's how TES lore has always worked.

>>143792658
So what, you don't like any game past Daggerfall? Because Daggerfall is the only game I can think of that didn't make some really major changes to the lore.

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>>143792982
Transcription errors.

>>143792843
Just don't buy it full price, the authorized reseller at the top of the OP sells it for $19, and there are unauthorized ones that sell it for less.

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>>143792950
My personal retcon have to be the Argonians.

Daggerfall turned them from lizard-people with hair into lizards.
Morrowind changed the Hist from being slightly smarter lizards into sentient firewood and gave them immunity to poison out of nowhere.
Oblivion turned all races into potatoes.
Skyrim changed so all the argonians who just stood around doing nothing was really returning home, because the now sentient firewood decided it was time to invade oblivion.
ESO changed it so that the Argonians have had previously huge and advanced civilizations with laser weapons fuelled by Hist sap that always ended up in the shitter due to the Shadowscales (and previous cults that's similiar to the shadowscales) fucking up the Argonians ability to communicate with the Hist.

>>143793914
Jesus Christ Oblivion...

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>>143793914
my personal favourite retcon*
Also posted wrong image

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oy vey

Is Bound Armaments really better than Evil Hunter for Stamsorc?

5% max stamina vs. 10% crit

>>143796554
that as well?

>>143797423
Depends. Evil Hunter gives you Major Savagery. That's a buff you can get trough a potion.

>>143797423
Why not both?

>>143797814

Okay, if I'm still leveling and don't have those potions, it's better then?

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>>143797621
The game even have dinduns.

>>143797949

Also it appears based on builds that Dual Wield is more single target DPS than 2h after the patch, is that true?

>>143797949
I'd have bound armament instead of evil hunter (if you don't want to have both at the same time) since you also get spell and damage resistance, and crit isn't really that big of a deal if not the rest of your gear or starsign utilize crit.

With Bound Armament you also get use of the the Daedric Protection passive, giving you 20% healing regeneration.

>>143798285
Dual wield offers more damage if you're using class abilities (such as surprise attack). If you're using weapon abilities as your main damage source, 2h is better due to wrecking blow.

This is of course untrue if you have VMA daggers/axes, which, after the patch, will be the best in slot stam DPS weapons by a mile.

>>143798034
Come on, that has to be a joke.

>>143798323

Yeah but I have Storm Atronach for passive, and it's only minor ward.

I mean, my bars are:

2h: Executioner, Crit Rush, Wrecking Blow, Boundless Storm, Evil Hunter, Storm Atronach
Bow: Acid Spray, Arrow Barrage, Poison Injection, Crit Surge, Evil Hunter, Werewolf

Realistically I can switch out Poison Injection and Executioner for Bound Armaments, but I'm not sure that's worth it. They're both pretty good.

Especially if I have to switch Executioner for Brawler when there's a bad tank and I have to tank 8 adds.

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>>143781139
really? you were that dependant on a shield for your dps? God fucking cry harder and fucking kill yourself. the new changes to criticall surge basicly let you heal 3k health every second as long as you continue to deal critical damage you sad piece of shit.

>>143799415
what's critical damage?

This games pvp is so shit, i waited for the weekend to see if maybe it picked up, but it didnt.

This really upsets me, its just small groups trying to ninja sieges and then getting zerged by defenders, and a bunch of people arguing about 'dueling' in zone.

>>143799674
Hello.

>>143799674
play in a campaign with a decent pop, if not a vet, go to blackwater blade, and git gud.

If you're on console you brought that on yourself.

>>143800445
>bwb

im in bwb on na pc, each faction has 2 bars, nothings happening.

>>143800770
BWB usually gets good in prime time (8 - 12PM), what faction are you in? for all i know DC always notzergs, AD has steady pop and EP is kinda ded..

>non champion point campaign has like 6 people in the whole zone, can only do scout missions
>regular vet campaign I can't even ride to an objective without getting 2 shot by what I assume are maxed out nightblades

this is frustrating

>>143801209
ive tried dc and ad and both seem about the same, though ad has a lot more arguing in chat

but seriously, for an rvr game on the weekend i would expect 100vs100 zerg clashes, at a minimum

ad just took a keep.. from npcs, since there were no defenders

I think this games siege mechanics are kind of screwed up and dont really allow for good keep fights, its too easy to start a siege, and too easy to have it end as fast as it started. Also i think mounts and fast travel, but not during sieges, is pretty much backwards, it should be no fast travel and slower mounts always, or fast travel always even during sieges, that would ensure better confrontations by either turning it into human wave zergs, or very defensive and well fortified siege camps with skirmishing in the middle. As it is people just rush around but then get hard blocked and thats it, go do something else, and then the zerg falls apart, nobody knows what to do, you get all these individual groups off trying to do their own thing, and nothing gets accomplished except by accident.

>>143802812
>but seriously, for an rvr game on the weekend i would expect 100vs100 zerg clashes, at a minimum

Due to things like siege weapons, and the sheer amount of AoE in this game, coupled with the relatively complex character models and effects, there is no way it could handle 100v100+ fights (ZOS needs to improve the performance in cyro as is).

Plus if you PvP enough you'll quickly learn that bigger fights are nothing but laggy proxy det clouding swarm bullshit storms, they are really fucking awful, they're just a contest to see who can stay bunched up tighter and who has better AoEs.

Smaller scale PvP however is VERY fun. Try Imperial City if you have the DLC, it's where all the good PvP is, and its the only place you get actual serious money rewards for killing people (especially after next patch). Or you can join a dueling guild and go 1v1 people all day.

>>143803878
fucking cunts, that's not how you get new people into the game...

>>143803878
Why have an open world factional game then?

Massive aoe spam sounds like fun, seeing lines ebb and flow is the entire point of rvr games. All this does is encourage people to be selfish and build themselves around ganking.

An example here. I can go make a new character in planetside 2, right now, do the initial tutorial, and have enough points to cert the ammo supply for the sunderer. Then i can take my ammo sundy, park it somewhere near the front lines, and be activly helping my team, as a 10 minute newbie. That sunderer could be critical to holding a bridge or something.

In this game, i take considerably longer to level to 10, do the only thing that seems viable with a low level character with out anyone to craft full sets of totaly upgraded gear for me, grab a restro staff and go around trying to heal people and maybe try some cc or something... and what happens? I came across a group of two other newbies trying to kill one level 40 something, i joined in. the three of us couldn't do it despite battle scaling, im not sure what the other people were doing, they seemed to be non healing builds, yet the level 40 coudlnt kill them either.

Now of course, im not saying i should be able to take my crappy ap leeching build and 1v1 people, and sure its great that that one guy could 1vs3 us level 10-12s.

But that shouldnt be a situation that has to happen. We should be able to go to the low level rvr campaign, find a zerg, tag along, learn the strategies and flows of the games territory war while still being useful to the faction in some capacity, and slowly gain knowledge and understanding doing this untill one day we can 'graduate' to running small special teams that work off of the zergs position and be badass operators operating

The issue is this games territory war seems to not actually exist. do camps outside of keeps even do anything? Every keep that ive taken we just ignored them, id think you would need to capture them.

>>143805020
>Why have an open world factional game then?

Because ZOS didn't think that far ahead.

>>143805020
>The issue is this games territory war seems to not actually exist.

Yeah it's a bit of an issue. They are fixing it though, as DB brings IC district capture, and the next update is (supposedly) going to bring town capture to the rest of Cyrodiil. Hopefully it'll also bring more useful services to Cyrodiil towns as well, as right now all they are are places to do quick daily quests for easy XP and nothing else.

As for the other issues, yeah the social side of the game is a bit lacking, especially in Cyrodiil, no idea if Zenimax ever intends on changing anything about it, so it's just a hurdle you have to get over sadly.

>>143805020
Get some siege equipment, if you want to help out, there nothing like running over to a siege and seeing 3+ guys all operating 3 trebuchets each. Hell I remember busting on down to a siege and everyone's equipment got smashed up, so I popped out like trebuchets for everyone and battering ram, my lonely level 20 ass saved that one for them.

>>143805875
Is all that going to be behind a paywall?

>>143806069
Imperial City is, but any improvements to Cyrodiil at large wont be, as it's an integral part of the base game.

>>143800770

I think a lot of people play Azura's Star.

I haven't been to Cyrodil a lot, but I'm in two guilds and both of them are out there with big groups every night.

I'm DC, NA PC.

>>143806764
i notice the populations are higher in some of the other campaigns even though people talk about bwb like its the second most active because people just keep rerolling to play it.

well see, i came into this game due to TES and honestly pvp was a secondary interest of mine, but ive always like rvr games, daoc was the second mmo i really played longer than a year straight (and still the last one ive played for more than 2 years), and playing this game makes me want to reinstall planetside instead, which is a shame because my eyes get drawn to pvp as the endgame option, and if i cant make that work then it detracts from the thought of doing anything else in the game. Its like i feel like i should just reinstall some skyrim conversion for tes, and reinstall planetside for rvr

>>143806764
No, don't recommend Azura's.

Min/max faggots left the place because they can't play without CP and there's barely any action anymore, that's why most here recommend BWB, since there's quite a few dedicated guilds and there are no meta endgame builds or oneshotter nightblades.

>>143807862
If you really want some clusterfuck action try trueflame, the most populated campaign, though i'm not sure you'll be very competitive without high CP or a decent group backing you up.

too many campaigns...

>>143811672
And factions.

bump and goodnight

What's the equivalent in this game to EVE AFK mining?

>>143798034
>put guy in stocks
>don't even confiscate his weapons first
See, THIS sort of shit is why Altmer are the syperior race and deserve to be the true rulers of all Tamriel, inferior Mer and Men-kind because we do stupid shit like that.

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>>143799415
> You were that dependant on a shield for your dps?

The changes to the shield are just nonsense. In PvP your shield won't last that long anyway so it's not a problem, in fact now we've even an additional shield after they've changed so that the light armour shield now absorb all damage. It does fuck all to make shields less frequent in PvP.

Now you're fucking with PvE where sorceres already are at a disadvantage. As a sorc healer, empowered ward is pretty much the only sorc skill you can use to buff your group, giving people minor intellect for 20 secounds. Now they've reduced it to 10 secounds. It was great being 20 seconds because it would linger around in case some mob decided to fuck with the twilight, arguably the best burst heal in the game if you could keep the fucking tits on wings alive.

But I'll keep my bitching in reservation that I may very well be wrong, I haven't played an awful lot on the test server and I may very well be proven wrong in the next patch, maybe the buff to the negate magick ultimate will make up for the shitty shield changes.

Huge violation of /v/ culture by playing this shit you know

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>>143827474
So is discussing /v/ culture, just sayin'

How much spell damage should i generally go for as a nightblade in PvP? I want to steer away from VD+soul tether bombing as it really isn't all that 1v1

>>143827474
Kill yourself retard

>>143827474
Good thing no one of any worth visits /v/ then, isn't it?

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>>143827474
>/v/ culture

>>143827474
coming to /vg/ is a violation of /v/s culture

>>143827474
Next general better be "Violation of /v/ culture" edition.

needs OC depicting '/v/s culture' being violated with elder scroll strapon by kinmune

should i be spending my alliance points on siege stuff/repairs? or saving them for something?

Anyone here ever played the first Elder Scrolls game ?

>>143832556
I'd like to know this too, I've just been hoarding them until I either hit vet 16 or the patch hits.

bumping thred

>>143834962
Bumping thred. Revive

Is there a way to Dragonknight tank maining magicka?

>>143796554
He's from Morrowind, not a reference to jews or whatever you think it is

Shit. I just bought three molag kena guises from the Cyrodiil vendor by accident instead of one.

>>143840049
lol retard

>>143833580
yes, but not much and only after Daggerfall

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>page 10

>>143832556
Do both desu, siege can make you very useful in the field if you can't really get gud, and wall repair kits are overall good for your group

>>143816909
Maybe running around to your damaged keeps and repairing walls? Might be closer to the factional warfare deplexing or whatever, because you're still at slight risk. There's nothing i'm aware of that you can do that will keep on doing itself for 5-10 minutes and only require minor adjustment each time.

Maybe fishing, but you've still got to watch it.

We had some nice lore discussion yesterday. What's everybody's favourite lore that ESO added or at least touched upon?

>>143847040
Meridia and Molag Bal's rivalry

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>>143847040
This place.

>>143819393
>In PvP your shield won't last that long anyway so it's not a problem
When focused, in an open field, of course, but only when fully exposed, and in those circumstances, it's only on to give time to react, and you're pretty much fucked anyway. When used with cover, the shields can and do last longer than 6 seconds, and they go down when you're ready to expose yourself for long enough to do your thing.

With the buff at 6 seconds, you've only got a couple of seconds worth of coverage before it wears out, after you've run back from behind whatever rock or pole you were hiding behind. It also forces sorcs to be constantly on their backbar to recast. The solution is either to have one shield on the front bar and lose entropy, replacing it with surge on the backbar and thus losing the +% health from entropy, or moving the finisher to the back bar. Either option is a whole lot more fucking around with bar swapping and a general nerf to survivability and QOL, but I guess this is a stamina patch and it is their turn.

>>143848952
the real solution is to let us bind all 12 skills to physical keys and have the game do weapon swapping automatically like a civilized pc game would and not have these console handicaps. The servers dont play togeather, theres no reason to punish pc

>>143789370
>The reason there's no Imga or Sloads is because Bethesda didn't wanted them in the game.
fuck! can't they be content making their own games boring and generic?

>>143851326
clearly the reason they dont allow them is because they want them to be new and fresh for when the next TES game takes palce in the 1st era and features the elves fighting those peksy necroblobs on their island

>>143850086
I like the weapon swapping though

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>>143798748
>we wuz bretons n shiet

>>143847040
pretty happy about the bosmer always making cheeky might-be-jokes about cannibalism

>>143851978
I'm not optimistic about anything beth does anymore, i just hope they let zos get wild in the future. akaviri races expansion when
hell, how about some unique meshes for the races we do have.

>>143852302
there's also some degenerate loving quest IIRC

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>>143847040
Wood orcs in Valenwood worshiping Hircine instead of Malacath. Iron orcs culturally separate from other orcs to the degree they've their own language and worship stones. It's no big deal but it add flavours.

I also like the diversity in food and armour styles.

>>143850086
that would be freaking amazing

>>143847040
I liked the lore behind the factions, especially the Ebonheart Pact.

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>>143851326
Look on the bright side, datamining have revealed these locations, so there's bound to be some weird-ass stuff happening in a future dlc.

>>143860436
they better not screw up balmora

>>143674096

He's the only one I wouldn't mind running into again in another DLC. Even if it's just a small side quest. Every other one of the companions was boring as fuck but my boy Abner was golden.

>>143860436

I wish they'd just do all of Vvardenfell. I want more areas to feel big and have a lot of area to rub round and explore.

>>143863472
I'd wager it will be about as big as Orsinium.

>>143866464
>>143863472
>>143862850
They're expensive

I shitpost but also contribute fairly, am I good or bad for this thread?

Is there a site that shows the xp from a given quest? I have a V1 who is 15000 xp away from V2 and I'm trying to figure out how long it will take me to get there. I'm doing Cadwell's Silver.

>>143871660
Are you a Dunmer?

>>143873438
maybe

>>143866464
I doubt it, it'll have to be at least twice the size of Orsinium. Vvardenfell has too many major towns to be the same size as Orsinium which has 3 including the city itself.

Thing is, they've said that the next expansion after DB wont have a new area, just housing and stuff, so hopefully that means they're spending roughly twice the time on the area in the expansion after that (I'd assume the winter/early next year one), which might indicate that it's gonna be a big area.