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>2.2.2 Patch Notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1647114
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.4
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
>Rough mapping guide (ignore IIQ advice if it's still in there)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1489756
Guaranteed demi classes:
Slayer
Raider
Hierophant
Anything else?
literally play hardcore or fuck off
>>140692605
dumb catposter
>>140692450
I wouldn't be sure about hierophant
Crit totems does good damage and is safe
>>140692450
>implying
all the tryhard turbotards will be going ascendent, trickster or champion
everyone else will be going slayer, berserker or hierophant because they think it will be easy demis. it won't be
the best classes to pick will be the mid range ones like occultist, assassin, pathfinder, chieftain, gladiator, inquisitor because you won't be sacrificing build quality and you won't be competing with poopsocking autists
is the deadeye chain good enough to drop the gem?
>>140693050
but Occultist is an extremely popular pick for ED
>majority shitcrows in the poeg guild
absolutely disgusting. how did this happen
this entire general needs to be fumigated
>>140693756
guess you have to log out off the thread lmao
>>140693756
>being in a guild
explain to me the benefits of memeing with other memers and never actually mapping at high level or doing anything productive
>>140693908
no need to be assblasted just because your memes arent dank enough friendo
>>140693908
the ziggyd tag ruined the guild. all the best players and memers left. the guild is shit now
>hear about garena poe and the 10 day fun league
>be skeptic, shady ass app and site, servers are russian and shit
>mfw the russian client and server run smoother than official ggg shit ever
not only it works perfectly, 150% iiq & iir is pretty fun
Can anyone explain the logic behind Pierce getting a more damage multiplier in 2.2?
Other supports expanding the AoE/coverage of a skill have a less damage multiplier (LMP/GMP/Melee Splash and so on). Conc Effect has a more damage multiplier but also a less area penalty you need to compensate.
Pierce allows you to hit 50% more targets (even more with 100% pierce) and it comes with a damage boost too. The fuck's GGG balance team thinking?
>>140694830
>ggg
>balance team
nice meem
i datamined the future and it says kobe will make another account and get 1st 100 playing coc discharge with RMT'd gear but he'll get banned 1% from 100, and then havoc will get legit 1st 100 playing LA with gear that was donated to him by his stream viewers and he'll also have a cuck supporting him
two days after havoc gets 100, the 2nd 100 will be either jeebie or stey and they'll both be playing coc discharge with gifted gear and have support cucks
give me roll your build pictures
please post an autistic arrow build for the HC two week race
>>140697073
what class? champion is probably your best bet
>>140695578
thanks, frogposter
>>140697073
I think this is my current build for phc on my CA that's at 92
stibnite+jade+dodge+grace+aa chilled ground+frenzy with temp chains CoH = fucking nothing ever hits you
>>140697073
>>140697475
>tfw forget to link build
http://poeurl.com/Ckk
>>140697073
herbalist hidden potential
>>140697539
why all the flask nodes?
The Perandues Legaue is about to end.
What do with 20.000 (in words: 20k) perandus coins?
>>140698681
rmt
>>140698681
Convert them into Chaos.
>>140698441
Why not? I have like most of the worthwhile damage on the tree, the rest of the nodes can be defensive
Flasks are a huge part of my defense, so them being up basically all the time is amazing. And the flask+mana nodes give me enough mana that I don't run a mana pot unless i'm doing a no regen map. Rallying cry OP
>>140698752
Sounds good. Know any sites where I won't get scammed and get good couns/$ ratio?
poeurl.com/Cza
What do you think? Lightning damage ES/Life hybrid non-crit elementalist.
>>140699289
I'm planning a similar low life ES version, why the skill duration?
>>140699572
I plan to use a bunch of stuff that benefits from it and 45% is nothing to sneeze at. It's like an extra increased duration socketed, right? I'm thinking vaal haste/discipline/storm call, immortal call and spark mostly. But it's not like I'm going to prioritize those points.
>>140698681
>>140699209
By the way, what happens to perandus coins once the perandus leguea ends?
why not just go 1k strength marauder BM caustic arrow with iron grip gem?
>>140699209
I used player auctions to buy some exalted orbs in the past.
I don't think I will play this game before act 5 again though.
Why is Garena PoE so much better than Chris Wilson Stash Tab Simulator?
>>140699209
perandus coins sell for 150-200 for 1 chaos, chaos goes for about 32 cents for a stack of 10, so 1 chaos is worth less than 3 and a half cents. it literally wouldn't be worth the time or effort
>>140700510
rate my're build
poeurl.com/Czx
>BM IG CA
>+3 6l bow
>drillneck
>essence wyrm + grace
>2k+ armor chest
>CA > pierce > void manipulation > rapid decay > iron grip > empower
literally fuck tons of life, fuck tons of armor, fuck tons of endurance charges, fuck tons of damage, unpopular class, easy demi
pls r8
>>140701310
K.
>>140701870
Good luck getting +3 6l bow in two week race
>>140701870
> literally fuck tons of life, fuck tons of armor, fuck tons of endurance charges, fuck tons of damage, unpopular class, easy demi
It doesn't matter. When will you fucking shitcrows understand this?
No matter how much HP/Armor/ES you have you WILL still die in ONE hit.
FUCK
THIS
UNBALANCED
GAME!
>>140702391
isn't it easy to craft one? i remember there being a trick to getting cheap +3
>>140701870
also
>not getting Dirty Techniques
>grab Iron grip passive node and get conc effect instead of iron grip gem
>>140702507
Yes, only need 2 lvl 8 masters
>>140702517
dirty techniques is gud
IG keystone doesn't work with CA though
>>140702710
i remember people getting +3 6links less than a week into perandus. maybe they were lucky or RMT
>>140702802
why do you say iron grip doesn't work with ca? ca is a prog and prog dmg scales the dot, works with ed don't see why it wouldn't work with ca
Anyone else avoid the labyrinth like the plague after the first week after its release?
Shit just isn't fun.
I guess that's how people make their money on ilevel 84 helms too. No one else wants to do it. Still seems like such a scam.
>>140700510
>>140701870
>iron grip
>caustic arrow
these don't interact how you think they interact, anon
>>140703225
it's not that bad depending on the build, only takes a few minutes to complete.
>>140703160
>>140703274
wiki says the support gem works but the keystone doesn't you fucking daft cunts
>>140703349
Are you reading the same wiki?
What part of
>Since this gem applies the same effect as the Iron Grip, these effects do not stack. The strength bonus only applies once if both the keystone and the gem are used together.
>The damage bonus of strength normally applies only to Melee Physical Damage. This gem causes strength's physical damage bonus to also apply to projectile attacks made with the supported skills. Only physical damage dealt by the projectile will be increased. The bonus from strength will be +1% increased Projectile Physical Damage for every five points of strength.
makes you think you're scaling projectile damage, and not projectile phys damage?
>daft cunts
At least I can read
>>140703349
>>CA > pierce > void manipulation > rapid decay > iron grip > empower
is what the guy said... look at the tree he linked, iron grip keystone isn't selected. you my friend are the daft cunt
>>140703335
Yeah, but it's a few minutes of absolute boredom. And you have to run the same thing over and over again.
Plus if you're not using whirling blades, which is ridiculously broken incidentally, then it takes even longer and is more annoying. And don't give me that 'but you can use a movement speed build!' crap, because the people who do that are gearing their entire character towards the labyrinth.
>>140703542
iron grip gem clearly works with CA
>>140703542
>>140703542
without
>>140704161
>>140703542
>>140703936
>>140703986
>>140704328
It doesn't scale strength. The whole build these posts >>140700510 >>140701870 are talking about is using strength to scale CA
Which it doesn't do. A % increased proj damage on the gem doesn't make Iron Grip work with CA
>Only physical damage dealt by the projectile will be increased
>>140704547
yes it does scale the strength. they keystone works as well. i just tested it. the wiki is wrong
>>140704547
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Caustic_Arrow
Base duration is (2.8 to 4.8) seconds
Deals (5.2 to 550.3) Base Chaos Damage per second
Gain (30 to 49)% of Physical Damage as Extra Chaos Damage....
how stupid are you?
>>140704547
to further the point....
Iron Grip: The strength Bonus from Iron Grip does not affect the caustic cloud damage, because the cloud is not considered as an attack. But the Iron Grip (support gem) grants increased Projectile Damage, which increase the cloud damage.
IG DOESN'T WORK WITH CA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>140704692
how stupid are you for not scaling your cloud dps?
>>140704621
if it does scale cloud dps it's a bug, but i don't believe you so I'm going to test it
>>140704776
That's only talking about the % increased damage on the gem itself, not the strength scaling
What would you nerf if you were no-fun-alloweding the game?
I'd give whirling blades three charges, change the math so there was no double dipping reduce earthquake's damage multiplier to practically nothing, same treatment to pierce, give CoC the Mjolner treatment and lower it to 30% chance to cast, remove all increased fortify effects on Champion, and while I'm at it make guardian, deadeye, trickster, ascendant and occultists balanced by removing them from the game.
Hire me up, Chris.
>>140704954
ok, it's not a bug, caustic arrow gives 30-49% of phys dmg as extra chaos damage. iron grip the keystone applies strengths bonus to projectile attacks (5 str = 1% melee dmg, so 1% phys projectile damage). the support gem does that AND adds projectile damage.. projectile damage scales the chaos damage. the strength scaling works from the keystone because it is PHYSICAL damage, which caustic arrow gains as extra chaos damage.
Fuck all of you for making me do this
Iron Grip does not scale CA's cloud damage.
The Iron Grip gem only scales it with it's shit % increased projectile damage that's on the gem. You'd never use the Iron Grip gem over something like Slower Proj, which has a way better more multiplier
I'm not replying about this anymore. Fuck you all
>>140705882
Iron Grip is a keystone passive skill that applies the physical damage bonus from strength to projectile attacks as well as melee attacks.
caustic arrow
Gain (30 to 49)% of Physical Damage as Extra Chaos Damage
you were wrong, and that is ok, you don't know everything, keep reading the wiki and grinding hillock and i'm sure you will figure it all out :^)
>Someone actually makes a fair offer on a buying a listed item from me
What the fuck just happened?
>>140706489
probably an rmt'er
are there any good poison build or strong builds in general?
I just ripped my Flicker Strike trickster to a fucking volatile at +5k ES and 2k HP
instant death
What build should I do next? I am fucking sick of instantly dying to bullshit like storm bears, volatiles, lightning thorns and in rare cases, reflect
What build doesnt have to worry about any of these stupid fucking instakill artificial difficulty bullshits?
Currently leveling my 5L iron commander Champion Siege Ballista build but it's monotonous af.
Hit me with your best shot
>>140708370
No. Nothing at all.
>>140708457
A double +damage volatile of the right enemy can easily do 10k damage in a high map at 75% resist.
>two week race
>can't play melee or ranged because you can't get a weapon for a day or two
>mages are weak late game
>totems are nerfed to shit
>trappers are shit and have no defenses
>summoners are shit
>supports can't solo anything
nice game poetards
>>140708673
>>mages are weak late game
play spark you non-ranking piece of shit
>>140708897
it's not the damage, it's the lack of defenses
>>140708969
stop using a shit build then.
>>140709062
the only nicebuilds™ are builds that use several rare uniques
good luck getting those in time to win a demi in a two week race
i'm probably going to go ED with EB/ZO and run AA+grace+enfeeble with phase acro
Let me be totally and completely honest about my Path of Exile skills.
I love this game. I play a lot, not like 10+ hours a day, but I like to think it's up there. I only play Hardcore, I've only traded for an item once, and I have no other friends who play PoE.
I feel like I'm missing out on half of the game because I die. A lot. I die so often that I've never gotten to the map section of the game. Ever.
But I love the rerolling process, and making new characters is exciting to me. Sure I could play standard, get out of hardcore, but I really enjoy the high-stakes thrill of permanent death.
I know that half of the Perandus league challenges - the ones to do with mapping - will never be complete on my account. It's frustrating, but I accept it. I simply don't play the game in such a way that allows me to progress to that point. I feel like I enjoy making new characters more than I desire to reach endgame. I love new excuses to make a new character. I have 6 in Perandus HC all between level 30-60, just because I found an item for a different build I wanted to try out, or I found a quality gem, or because someone looked at me funny.
I think I'm the perfect candidate for race seasons, and events, and new leagues. I jumped on the Garena server as soon as I saw that 10 day race they were running. Why? Because hell yeah... I could make a new character! (I made a few already due to those nasty Volatile mods. They hit hard at level 2 and my poor Templars kept getting one-shot!)
My point? I don't know if I have one. I suppose part of me is really thankful that Chris Wilson and his team of rascals has made such a fun and challenging game. Not since Diablo 2 have I enjoyed playing for so long, despite not getting to the end game content. Even though I haven't made it that far, I love the game and keep trying (though only half-assed really) to get there.
>Entire league is centered around Cadiro deals giving cheap, high value uniques
>I still make three times more from frametime farming than Cadiro farming because most of the good items that Cadiro could've offered have had their offer-rates tweaked
Okay dude.
Just remember guys that whatever build you make has to be able to use whirling blades.
>>140709712
I'm gonna use daggers in my off-slot and switch for movement. What now.
>>140708673
>trappers are shit and have no defenses
uuuuhhhh
>>140709925
fuck off poopx you're shit
>>140708663
I know. I managed to read the mob having "volatile iceblood" before dying. Couldnt get a glimpse of the other mods.
I've played this game for like 1500 hours but I still cant get over how much fucking bullshit it occasionally is.
I understand that there should be challenge, but the thing is that half the challenge of the game is to make a build that doesnt have to deal with bullshit like reflect and volatiles.
If you have a build completely proof of any of the instakill mods, you've basically won the game.
>>140710092
so true, once you reach the top of the learning curve almost every death outside of lag/dc is some retard 1 shot mechanic
>>140709287
Fuck off reddit.
>>140709287
wow the asshole elitist circle jerk nature of this place is simply astounding and literally unneeded.
who cares what league i play in ? what doe MY decision have to do with YOU ? why do you care so much ? are you just that much of an asshole ? like seriously ? are you that much of a fuck head ? you remind me of those fucking idiots on the /pol/ board who get on their moral high horses and tell people how to live, it really sickens me, just accpet that some people like things different than you.
but seriously does MY decision make me any less of poe player than you ? NO it doesn't so fuck off kid.
>i like to die and lose me character
>herp-derp
>look at me im such a hardcore gamer !!!!
>please accpet me im really HARDCORE GAMERRRRR
so desperate for attention you have to live out your impotent existance by belitting others over what type of games they like to play. oh yeah you soooo cool. you such a MAN. yeah your really fucking manly.i just bet your a regular chad fucking thundercock.
no fuck you. seriously elitist assholes like you are what run communities by ostracizing you fellow members. seriously your asshole attitude it not needed go take that shit to some other community some other website because its bullshit.
I browse this place all time but am too afraid to post questions about my builds because pricks like you would shit all over me because i play standard. hey dipshit, ever actually play standard ?
ever experience that rush of using skype with your friends to narrowly survive a 76 map with every single mod to boot, no. You one of those pussies who probably thinks certian map mods are OP and whine and bitches about it. I honestly think that standard leagues are the REAL hardcore experience. it forces you to grind and it take knowledge to grind and get the proper exp per hour to achieve effectively leveling. do you know what its like to level up a character to level 100 ? have you ever even made it past 80 ?? i doubt it.
tutorialcore
>>140685747
I don't see the point of a 100% piercing ED. I guess it's because I've never had an issue with hitting the invulnerability aura mob.
>wake up
>new microtransactions
>they freeze your game a second each
>no performance changes but just microtransactions
>no races
every time
>>140714249
it's just QoL
>>140700854
>Garena PoE
How the fuck would that even work in countries like China, considering nearly all of POE has grimdark 2edgy4u skulls in it
>tfw someone afks in your ho
>>140717445
Why? Do chinks have something against that sort of stuff?
>>140719260
skulls and skellingtons are too spooky for them so they're forbidden
d
>Alch all my red map jewelry
>Keep all the non-junk
>I now have four tabs of rings and amulets of 2+ chaos value
>I only have four tabs
Well.
>>140721723
>item x is "worth" y
>nobody is buying x for y
i hope you know what that means, anon
>>140721974
It'd all sell eventually. Pay to win stash well holding me back.
i went to church today... we are sinners... but we can strive to be good...
i'll pray for you poeg... and i hope you'll pray for me...
based charan dropping truth bombs again
This was a response to another thread, but then it became something else.
People lament the loss of Iron Lore but then we got Crate and the very good Grim Dawn. And while it could never measure up to Diablo, Torchlight was really great too. At a larger remove, the demise of many a band has led to amazing solo careers, or the formation of something much better. In short, not all endings are necessarily tragic. They really can be just the fresh start and freedom some people need and don't even realise it until they notice they're able to breathe once more.
You know where this is going, right?
One simple question.
Who knows what GGG devs might go on to make were they unshackled from the stone pendulum tied around their necks that PoE has become?
That's a harsh way of looking at it but it's important to remember what GGG were like during the beta of PoE.
I feel like we were witnessing a creative burst of epic proportions in 2012 with PoE, but something has definitely gotten stale since then. Where other game development companies might recognise this and start new projects, GGG obstinately keep adding layers of make-up to what is essentially an ugly game. And ugly is fine, ugly is raw and visceral and most importantly it's forced to be interesting. And if we're being honest with ourselves, were Ascendancy classes really that interesting? They provided new ways of doing the same old things. And okay, thats an ARPG but there are so many ways to push the definition of ARPG. The Labyrinth was one way, but even the Labyrinth starts to reveal its repetitive layout before too long. It's a long time in the making but that doesn't change the fact that it just isn't varied enough, doesn't go far enough to entice players to run it over and again beyond the forced appeal of prizes for racing. Blergh.
But ugly doesn't mean unfinished and make-up can't conceal a lack of true polish.
>>140724109
shut the fuck up weebran
>>140724109
I can't put my finger on it but there seems to be an exhaustion underlining the game now, a feeling that "good enough" is increasingly the standard of work. We still have shitty character animations. Shitty minimap. Shitty chat and guild functions. Shitty text heavy character screen. Shitty white overlay to zone exits. These are all issues of polish. The lack of basic polish might be something hardcore gamers can excuse or ignore but to me they're indicative of a certain loss of desire to improve the game rather than just adding more crap for people to do.
I've been watching a lot of dev videos from other games, particularly Smite since it's another one game one company deal, and it astounds me how they never stopped tweaking the UI, effects or other points of basic polish. How one build of the game looked perfectly fine to me but then the next was just so much better. This is what designers do, after all. They see ways to make things better for the user that the user can't even imagine or expect. They strive for almost unnecessary excellence, giving the user confidence that this isn't just a good game. It's an excellent product with excellent creators.
And GGG haven't done that for this user in a very long time. The biggest UI overhaul was strictly horizontal, trading one pair of iconic images for another. Whoopdedoo.
The spark might not be dead in the GGG office but I feel we're past the inferno's brightest point. GGG used to work smart and hard. Now it seems more like just the latter. And I firmly believe it's because what PoE has become in the past four years, or failed to become, is quietly sapping their enthusiasm. That too many things are in the too hard basket or the not that important bin. This is not where you want to be as a company dedicated to designing just one game.
>>140724160
he might be a cuck who blew thousands of bucks on the game he barely even plays but he's not afraid to voice his disappointment like many other supporters do
>>140724325
PoE2 is financially not viable right now. And it's not because PoE hasn't made GGG a lot of money. It's because GGG and PoE are inexorably linked and any money GGG makes is from PoE and goes towards PoE. If one is excellent, so is the other. If one dies, so does the other. This is a frightening fact if you consider how other game developers do things. An old adage about eggs and baskets comes to mind.
GGG are right to be incredibly proud of PoE. It's still a miracle. It's not going anywhere in a hurry.
But let me repeat that sentence, with emphasis on a certain word.
Path of Exile is not going anywhere in a hurry.
Then again, neither are we.
So if this is it, if PoE is all we can expect from GGG for now, maybe it's time for GGG to redecorate our home. To stop adding more bland, uninspired content for the sake of content, catch their breath, rediscover why they made this game, work on polishing what we already have and maybe even fall in love with PoE again.
This isn't just a matter of the game's health anymore. I think leaving so many little things unfinished is affecting GGG's ability to deliver passionate, rewarding additions to the game. I imagine it would be frustrating as a designer to know there are some really crappy things in the game that have been there for years but being unable to fix them because you're being told to work on new stuff instead. It would be unfulfilling and boring. Which in turn produces unfulfilled, bored players kept not by an excellent, complete game but merely the cheap addiction of a good game lurking behind a roulette wheel. POE always had potential to be so much more than that, but I feel GGG are caught in a spiral where they feel the best way to stay afloat is to treat the game like a casino, and players like gamblers. I think a big part of this is because we put up with an inexcusably unpolished game, which sends GGG the message that we don't care about the game, just our compulsion to keep playing.
>>140724447
We may never know if greater things might be waiting in GGG's future should PoE die and force them to once again be truly brilliant, but if the PoE and GGG of today don't start being excellent now, starting with making the game's design and appearance worthy of its mechanics, I get the feeling we may find out sooner rather than later.
>>140724325
He makes no valid point whatsoever. He lacks game experience, which makes him unqualified to comment on the state of the game from either a casual or hardcore perspective.
>>140724325
>he's not afraid to voice his disappointment
He also doesn't shit about the things he posts about.
>>140724636
>>140724734
ggg shills please go
>>140724894
tab back to your goddess unleashed, dried lake viable shadow you fucking retard
>>140725039
come on chris, i know you don't like being called out on your bullshit but adding a fat golden man, one boss and a couple of zones with reused tilesets to the game isn't the most a multi-million company can do in 3 months
>inb4 b-but we're working on act 5!
yeah and it won't be released for several years, just like act 4
>>140724109
>>140724325
>>140724447
holy shit these posts are so fucking reddit it hurts
going to take a nap
Are they gonna fix this bug with being unable to whisper people or what?
>>140700098
They'll be kept in standard/hardcore and Perandus shit will be introduced into the core game.
Don't coins stay on your character when you die?
>>140728941
they stopped designing leagues with the intent of introducing them into the main game 2 leagues ago already
Is Inspired Learning actually any good?
Let's say I have the four notables and the jewel already. Would it be as good as, say, a 15% damage 6% life jewel?
>>140729390
Source?
And don't say it's based on because the previous two leagues aren't in the main game. That happens all the time--they've only added some things. Perfectly reasonable for Perandus to be in the main game.
>>140729462
It's niche but a good niche. I used one on my Mjolner for the Templar nodes.
>>140729774
Think I'll try it out. Worst comes to worth I'm out a few regrets.
>>140729608
no, they didn't add anything
compare beyond (turned into a map mod, added to bloodlines league) to talisman (absolutely fucking nothing)
hell, even warbands and tempest are only available as darkshrine effects in the labyrinth so pretty much never
>>140730259
Exiles.
>>140730172
Worse comes to worst.
Does anyone actually do pvp in this game? I want to lag somebody's video card out with SRS and vaal skeles
>moot will never post here again
>>140731019
good
>>140730942
that won't lag anyone out, try crit bv + extra gore + gifts from above
that is, of course, if you somehow survive the invisible oneshot sparks from offscreen
>>140730515
Well, the Waterways boss was pretty fun with Inspired Learning. The crystallings he summons are all rares so you get a bunch of buffs from killing them.
Plus storm heralds seem to do a lot of damage when you have them.
>>140731019
But I am posting.
>>140725987
Charen is too reddit even for reddit though
>>140729608
Chris confirmed perandus not getting added to the core game on reddit twice.
>>140734092
So most coins will be wasted then. Cadrio hardly ever shows up and when he does he's offering total fucking garbage like rare regen amulets or literal vendor trash uniques for 3k+ coins.
PLS SUPPORT ME
>>140734324
I dunno. I think there will still be coin collectors out there willing to pay around the current rate just so they can own the only coins there are.
I wouldn't mind being super cool with four stash tabs of perandus coins.
D
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fuck off with your D E A D X DDD meme faggots
>>140740406
now that's a fine assblast
>>140740406
>tfw I started that meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shdiTRxTJb4
i started playing this game few weeks ago and hit lvl 70, how hard is it to get those 36 challenges?
>>140750710
36 isn't so hard. Only Zana 8 and the identify the rare treasures ones are actually timeconsuming/expensive.
Here's something. I wish overgrown ruin and overgrown shrine had different fucking name
Oh nice! A tier 12! Wait, fuck you.
>>140751910
lab enchantment also is a chore.
>>140752073
Why don't you edit it in your filter, nerd?
I love this game. I play a lot, not like 10+ hours a day, but I like to think it's up there. I only play Hardcore, I've only traded for an item once, and I have no other friends who play PoE.
I feel like I'm missing out on half of the game because I die. A lot. I die so often that I've never gotten to the map section of the game. Ever.
But I love the rerolling process, and making new characters is exciting to me. Sure I could play standard, get out of hardcore, but I really enjoy the high-stakes thrill of permanent death.
I know that half of the Perandus league challenges - the ones to do with mapping - will never be complete on my account. It's frustrating, but I accept it. I simply don't play the game in such a way that allows me to progress to that point. I feel like I enjoy making new characters more than I desire to reach endgame. I love new excuses to make a new character. I have 6 in Perandus HC all between level 30-60, just because I found an item for a different build I wanted to try out, or I found a quality gem, or because someone looked at me funny.
I think I'm the perfect candidate for race seasons, and events, and new leagues. I jumped on the Garena server as soon as I saw that 10 day race they were running. Why? Because hell yeah... I could make a new character! (I made a few already due to those nasty Volatile mods. They hit hard at level 2 and my poor Templars kept getting one-shot!)
My point? I don't know if I have one. I suppose part of me is really thankful that Chris Wilson and his team of rascals has made such a fun and challenging game. Not since Diablo 2 have I enjoyed playing for so long, despite not getting to the end game content. Even though I haven't made it that far, I love the game and keep trying (though only half-assed really) to get there.
I guess I'm just not that good at this game. And I love it.
Copypastas don't really work if you post the same ones multiple times in the same thread.
Why is it so hard to make a melee witch reeeeeee
>>140758458
>Smells of reddit
>Check it out
>One of the first things
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4h96zh/i_am_not_good_at_path_of_exile_but_i_love_it/
ebry tiem
>>140760328
Because despite ggg saying anything build on any class is what they want they have pigeonholed every class
>>140762605
And Ascendancy has done that even more (pigeon-holing) I personally don't care how diverse/free the classes are in this game but GGG early on kept pushing the whole "anyone can be anything!" meme and this has deteriorated over time with every update.
>>140762535
Well you just blew my cover, asshole.
>>140762909
You weren't even trying.
>>140762605
True. The fact that the beginning of the Witch tree has an obligatory useless node if you want to build non spell non ES is a good sign of that. That second node should be a mana node, not a ES node. You shouldn't be forced to take completely useless nodes for a given build or stat nodes at the very beginning of your character build.
>>140762605
You can, to an extent. If you try something retardedly counterintuitive like melee witch or phys bow templar, it's going to be hard to come up with an efficient outcome. But you can be an iron will spellcaster marauder, or an EA witch. The game was never about "you can be anything you want!!!" Class choice matters. Starting points in the tree matters. But you're given a lot of flexibility.
>>140762749
Really? Ascendancy has done a lot of good for class diversity, even just looking at what people play, and people are sheeple who follow guides and streamers builds. Ascendancies that enabled more class diverse builds than previously possible:
Ascendant
Champion
Elementalist
Pathfinder
Deadeye
Assassin
>>140763813
Can be argued that Ascendancy has done both. But it's up in the air which has more weight. For example if you want to be tanky, go Duelist>Champion or maybe Marauder>Juggernaut. Want to go minion/summoner? Witch. So on. Doesn't help that the ascendancies are incredibly imbalanced.
>>140763813
I think melee witch IS possible. It's just hard.
Like I could see a Wild Strike Elementalist Witch working.
>>140764162
>incredibly imbalanced.
Over half are straight up useless compared to the rest.
Ascendant exemplifies this so well it's actually funny.
>>140764578
Im using Inquisitor with my build, Im the only one in existence using it.
>>140763813
The thing is imo champion is a very generic class, it improves literally any build
The other classes are a bit more specialised which pigeonholes the other classes more
>>140764162
Well yeah, you can't be a summoner duelist or a tanky melee shadow more than before. The real question is, when you think or a skill gem, or a build archetype, can you choose between more classes than before? The answer is yes.
It usually helps that ascendancies perks are usually generic modifiers that more generic with Scion's watered down counterparts. Think of assassin (generic crit), deadeye (generic projectile attacks), elementalist (elemental conflux), pathfinder (generic stronger flasks), etc.
You can be an occultist/deadeye ED ascendant and benefit from both even though you don't use projectile attacks or build around ES.
has everyone planned their 2w race build yet? or are we so dead we don't care?
>>140765689
ded, leagues have no staying power and the game has a ton of flaws even if parts of it are amazing. they need to incentivize sticking out leagues without putting in cock block challenges that aren't fun.
>>140765873
they literally just need to fix the performance in order to prevent the game from dying.
>>140764434
+216% Elemental Damage
+235% ES
CI/GR/VP
+120% ES from Shield
There, I tried, Wild Strike Elemental Conflux/Elemental Equilibrium/Mastermind of Discord Witch.
>>140766405
Elemental conflux is only interesting if you specialize in one element or phys/chaos for the free ignite (+80% damage) and free shock (+50% more damage) imo.
Mastermind of Discord is kinda interesting with Wild Striket though as you would get 20% elemental penetration all the time. Pretty cool but the skill is kinda ass.
>>140766916
Not sure if Elemental Penetration becomes useless with Elemental Equilibrium though.
If an enemy is already sent in the negatives by EE what will penetration do?
>>140767154
It would stack, no reason not to.
>>140767316
Depends.
Is Elemental Penetration actually -20% Resistance in calculations OR Ignore 20% of Resistances for Calculations.
>>140767154
>If an enemy is already sent in the negatives by EE what will penetration do?
elemental penetration means that the target's resistances are not modified but the damage that actually penetrates acts as if the target's resistance is less than it is by the listed value
it doesn't matter if the target already has negative resistance, penetration acts as if the target's resistance is still lower than that
>>140768512
Sounds good. I think I will actually try to build that in HC.
>>140765689
Spreadsheet and tree is ready senpai.
>>140771750
>spreadsheet
For what purpose
>>140772365
Quest rewards and when I can buy needed gems, mainly.
>>140772365
Stylish points.
>>140772835
>not having that memorized in your head
amateur
>>140724447
>>140724325
>>140724109
finally, after years of shitposting, reddit is finally waking up
>>140776720
Shut the fuck up redditor
>>140776720
>the same principle as posts charan has said over and over again on the forums
Get out reddit fag
>tfw can't find the motivation to play cause I can't think of a fun build.
Sucks, my main goal while playing this game was keeping my hueguese up to date.
>>140777712
>>140777957
>do i fit in yet
>>140778047
I have the opposite problem, too many build ideas
at least I'll get to experiment with one in the 2w race
>>140778047
Same problem here, I want to be force fed a build because I am sick of falling back on cyclone that I have played for a billion leagues, dual RF totem is slow and boring.
I haven't played a real caster or ranged character yet but they look like they yoyo a lot and are much more prone to 1 shots so... I don't fucking know.
>>140778998
You know you can play a tanky caster right
anyone wanna buy my fishermans pole
>>140779141
>No quantity
Have fun catching no fish
>No rarity
Have fun catching no lame fish
2/10 would chaos for better rod
>>140779253
vaal soul hook is the most rare hook
>>140778115
>This damage control after being called out on being a Redditor__________:^)____________
What's the point of doing red maps if you consistently get less return from them than just selling the map? Am I supposed to give half a shit about getting to level 100?
>>140779131
Yeah? I haven't seen one except ES builds which I have never played and sound like a bitch to gear in a 2 week race.
>>140779581
>Am I supposed to give half a shit about getting to level 100?
yes
git gud
>>140779343
The rarity if rolling a hook doesn't make up for the lack of rarity and quantity of fish caught
That's kind of like saying this ES chest is worth a lot because it has T1 light radius on it
Other than that it's a pretty decent rod
>>140779581
Huh, you get map drops from red maps, which are worth more than the map itself. I wouldn't sell red maps (except for extra shitty ones or t15s because they're challenge maps), both from a currency and experience perspective.
>they play past level 90
>>140779910
ok 20c its yours
>>140780162
fuck off gigashitter. you're shit
>>140780783
Keep wasting your time in poorly optimized, high level maps with shit map pools tetrashitter.
>>140734092
Thank fuck, my video card can rest at ease now
>>140734324
I got rainbowstrides and a tabula from him once
>in b4 vendortrash
>>140780908
ggg is shit but you're even more shit, omnishitter
>>140779915
In my experience even with 150 quantity 20 packsize maps you tend to lose map tiers. This conservatory just gave me one tier 11, one tier 8 and two trash maps I didn't pick up. It was a 6 mods map with two pack sizes.
>>140779728
I would say CI builds are typically harder to gear in a relatively short 2-week race because they're reliant on good ilvl bases that aren't really flooding the market in the first week.
Life-based is much easier to gear and you don't need to spend dozens of regrets respeccing to CI and changing gear down the road.
And casters can be tanky. When I died at level 99, my rough defensive stats pre-flasks were as follow:
8k life
15k armour
~500 life regen
58/75 block/spellblock
20/20 enfeeble
See attached picture for stats with flasks up.
I died to a DC. Nothing could really touch me otherwise. Could run any map mods, even vuln+phys reflect was a joke (75% of reflected damage is blocked, and the rest were relatively small hits that were almost entirely negated by armour and life regen).
Keep in mind this was just my dumb, bruteforcing way to achieve tankiness. There are other ways to do so. BV Pathfinder for example is ridiculous if your computer can handle the fps and you can handle flask management. +% flask effect on flasks like Rumi's or a basalt is insane. Defensive curses are stupidly strong if you can run dual blasphemy curse, etc.
Am I right to believe Projectile Damage > Bow Damage?
>>140782451
what was your build out of curiosity?
most of the people with open shit to study are streamers and they seem to yoyo hard from watching them just during general play so maybe I have a false sense of expectation there.
>>140782707
Blood Magic Bladefall, as you can see in the screenshot.
>>140782516
For what? For normal attacks they stack additively. So they're exactly the same.
>>140782954
I dunno. The former seems more versatile since Projectile damage also applies to spells.
>>140783070
Which is why you have to specific for what. A projectile damage affix on a jewel will be more valuable than a bow damage affix, but that doesn't really mean much.
convince me not to buy d3
>>140783070
Who gives a shit? You're either using a bow attack or you're not. If you are, projectile and bow damage are the exact same for the sake of calculating dps.
>>140783224
Well, doesn't projectile damage result in more damage when using poison?
>>140783234
sounds like the perfect game for a casual like you desu
>>140783234
Diablo 3 is very good game. Buy it and support blizzard.
>>140783430
That's a specific case where projectile damage and bow damage are distinct. And that will undoubtedly be changed in 2.3 unless GGG have some really stupid developers. When you're not using the poison support gem for most everything else projectile damage and bow damage are the same stat for bow attacks.
The poison support gem double dips from any archetype of damage increase; trap, mine, totem, aoe, they all do it.
>>140783234
You will spend hours of your life in a glorified skinner box grinding for virtual items and at the end of it you'll have nothing to show for it but regret and a mispent youth when you could've accomplished something or built something with real lasting value.
Just like this game.
>>140785283
What games allow you to "accomplish something" or "build something with real lasting value"? If no game does this, why make the distinction? Of course it's all a massive waste of time in the end.
>>140782516
since projectile damage isn't tied to a damage source, it's always either as good as or better than bow damage
>decide to level with a skill I don't usually use
>end up building entirely around it
shock nova's pretty fun now
>>140785527
why bound it to games? we're about a century and a half after nietzsche and still people are so concerned with a vacuum of values instead of filling that void
Another anecdote I have for the graphics problems is I was watching Cooterz playing a mine build and she decided to put Glacial Cascade in it. She thought it looked fun, and then found GC's Gore MTX, bought it, and applied it to the gem. She had the framerate graph on and regular GC didn't even phase it. Gore Glacial Cascade though? That noticeably impacted her framerate and after a few mine detonations to ensure it was definitely the MTX she was like "Uh, no. I'm not gonna do that if it'll hurt my frames."
Let me compress that: The MTX she bought negatively impacted the game's playability. She paid money to have a worse play experience.
>she
What did he mean by this?
>>140785758
>shock nova's pretty fun now
said every shock nova users until they hit maps and it takes them 50 casts to kill mountain ledge boss.
>>140785925
>Cooterz
>she
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1656715
There will definitely be either a SSF league or a Flashback league. SSF vs. Flashback are pretty close.
Remember to vote for SSF so that proper no-lifers win those demis instead of faggy streamers!
>>140786132
Jesus Christ, it would be glorious if they pulled a Flashback league. Most fun I ever had in PoE were those crazy anarchy torment beyond onslaught invasion stretches.
>>140784329
I'm not the guy you are talking to but they need to take the convolution out of double dipping and make shit readable instead of having to figure this shit out the hardway by trial, error, and word of mouth.
>The first option is to disable parties in the events, making them essentially solo self-found leagues. This would definitely raise the difficulty of the events as players are unable to rely on trade to improve their items. We're typically hesitant about applying this mod to substantial events because of negative feedback about it in the past. The game is a lot harder when you have to live entirely off the land.
>We're typically hesitant about applying this mod to substantial events because of negative feedback about it in the past.
>We're typically hesitant about applying this mod to substantial events because of negative feedback about it in the past.
>We're typically hesitant about applying this mod to substantial events because of negative feedback about it in the past.
People are such filthy casuals.
>>140786132
Why not solo self found torment beyond anarchy onslaught invasion warbands tempest talisman rampage?
>>140786047
I'll see, I'm actually really curious. I'm already Inquisitor so if it came down to it there's always vaal spark but I otherwise want to do some stuff with synergising shock nova being able to hit twice with call of the brotherhood + hypothermia + righteous providence
Who part of the 7% here? Fuck reddit.
>>140786639
More challenging? Why? You can make things as challenging as you want by playing fun builds instead of overpowered shit.
>>140786639
give me one reason other then "fuck reddit" why GGG shouldn't make the temp league harder/more fun by adding more league mods.
>>140786867
>implying that being contrarian to reddit isn't justification for just about anything on 4chan
>>140786867
It's unfair to solo players because content gets more challenging for them, but for streamers or people with a guardian bitch, it's only extra loot and experience, which further accuentates the disparity between solo and group play. This is no real issue in a regular challenge league (if you want to play solo, suit yourself), but in a competitive environment that's uncalled for.
Actually I didn't see the SSF option in the second poll, but that's irrelevant because it's not going to win and we're getting Flashback for sure.
>>140786452
I was one of the first people to ask for solo leagues back in closed beta. The negative feedback was mostly from people that played with a friend, also streamfags that have their supporters sucking their cocks and providing shit to them for free to get an advantage.
WHAT THE FUCK GUYS
>SSF or flashback or single mod
literal meme options
the last SSF race was garbage. everyone played flameblast and the account sharing faggots kobe+zaun won it of course. the same thing will happen again
flashback is fun but i'm tired of this stale meme
i'm voting for SSF just to fuck over the rmting tryhards and streamers, even if it means i have no chance of winning a rank1 demi
why are all the scrubtrash garbage peeps picking solo self found?
>b-b-beyond too tuff... p-p-pls don't, i want a challenge thats easy s-so i can b-b-rag about being a hardcore redditor..
>>140787287
You have no chance of winning a rank 1 demigods unless you're part of a group anyway.
>>140787287
NUH HUH I DUN WANT PERANDUS THATS BORING
Okay, fine, here's your SSF league
NUH HUH I DONT WANT TO BE SOLO COMPETE WITH PEOPLE WHO PLAY A LOT
Okay, then here's your Flashback league
NUH HUH I ALREADY PLAYED THAT BEFORE I DUN WANNA DO IT AGAIN
There's just no pleasing you faggots.
>>140787393
>l-let me suck my guildies' dick for gear s-s-so i can brag about how good i am at the game and totally not a redditor amirite guys
>>140787393
What the fuck are you on about? SSF is way harder than perma-beyond or whatever league they decide on once you factor in how dramatically easier the game gets with trading and partying. Have you ever played SSF in your life?
>>140787560
I make like 100bucks off of d2jsp while racing and getting my achievement/rewards.
try again scrubshit.
>>140787005
Hello, reddit.
>>140787393
You can only rely on yourself playing solo self-found. It doesn't get more hardcore than that.
>>140787662
>SSF
>whoever top nolifer gets a tabula and voltraxic wins first
nice challenge scrubshit.
but i guess it's good though, at least you can always blame being a shitkid on RNG as opposed to being told to git gud after dying to beyond.
>>140787837
Tabula is an easy item to farm
By maps it's not unlikely to find a 5 link to alc and usesource the havoc ssf race
>>140787837
>whoever top nolifer gets a tabula and voltraxic wins first
Sounds like you're blaming your loss in a SSF on RNG bud :^)
>>140787837
just getting enough life and resists without buying life+trires items for 1c make the game harder
SSF is much more difficult than people think, especially without any IIQ/IIR bonuses. cadiro himself isn't going to help you much unless you get incredibly and get a goldrim+tabula before cruel
>>140787837
>whoever top nolifer gets a tabula and voltraxic wins first
What a stupid argument. You're not planning for voltaxic in your build in a SSF league (you NEVER plan around build enabling uniques) and even you evel as sparker/LA and one does drop you'd have to get all the gems/gear/regrets needed which might not be available to your build because hello NO TRADING.
Everyone can farm a tabula in aqueducts, moot point.
Why make a poll when GGG has already announced what they're doing? Do people actually think they're going to change things just because of a poll?
>Sadpanda went down.
>No new league yet.
My life's over.
>>140788302
Yes, that's precisely what they officially announced, retard
>>140788334
You mean you don't have a porn backup?
>>140788302
you forgot your cat picture
