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>IRC
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List of people looking to queue up together for matchmaking:
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>>137025775
>>137025775
hhhhhhhhhhh
It's 2016
TF2 is dead and Valve killed it with their constant money grubbing, appealing to r/4chan, and adding literal promotional shill items.
Let it go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdi5MkFWOx8
is there some faggy tf2/youtube drama i'm not aware of?
>>137119201
f2p and hats kept the game alive, deal with it.
So I have just come into 100 keys pure and am in the market for a nice, flashy unusual. I dont really have a main so something multi class would be nice. If not I mainly play Engi, Scout, Pyro and Heavy.
Can you guys suggest any nice hats currently for sale? I like stuff like Time Warp, Cloud 9, rare flashy things, ect
>>137119247
It's a result of the games modern playerbase. Meme culture children flock to popular internet personalities and attempt to emulate them to garner popularity of their own. After all, it's easier and more effective to be imitative than rather than innovative. That's why everyone and their mother has a fucking twitch account.
please do not respond to the millionth "tf2 is dead" spouter
>mfw this general is dead like rs07 general
>>137120656
>americans are asleep
>1 oclock in europe
>"O-OMG DEAD GENERAL"
>>137120656
what do you want to talk about then
>>137120854
I want to talk about raffles
>>137120842
All of those people in the middle of the ocean should be posting by now
Anyone else notice that Tf2 has been lagging lately?
>>137121170
install nohats.vpk or get a better cpu
Should I trade my unusual for a bot dogger now that its an all class?
>>137121316
Yes
>>137121316
Yea, some people are asking for 500 keys for a burning/scorching flames one
>>137121394
>>137121416
Pls stop bullying me or I will ban you from scrap.tf
>>137121316
Praise squid
>>137121482
I was offered a frostbite bot dogger for my 90 key all class not sure if I want to because it will probably wont go up that much.
>>137121593
Don't tell lies
>>137121707
I just told my mom on you.
>>137121957
Can I have sex with her
>demo pls use ur stickies
no, fuck off cunt. go play lobbies if you want to tryhard
>>137122297
Who are you quoting
>>137122427
some guy from mm obviously
>>137122297
if this is matchmaking and you lost then you are autistic
>>137122451
we won, i was top scorer.
i'm fucking shit with stickies and i'd rather get the damage reduction and quick escape than a secondary i won't ever use.
>>137122551
then it doesn't matter
post yfw bottom fraggers tell you what to do
>>137122637
>mfw
>>137122637
>>137122637
Kills don't make good players
>>137122798
yes, they do. with the exception of medics.
the enemy team can't cap if they're dead
>>137122846
you talking pubs I hope
>>137122798
>>137122890
t. bottom fragger
I'll take a retard pubbie that can frag over a "smart" player that doesn't get any frags
>>137122890
ok, enlighten me: what does make a player good in tf2? damage done? points capped?
>>137122951
Teamwork
It's not called Kill Fortress 2
I take about being a top fragger a lot, and while it's pretty true 99.99% of the time, i'm going to be brutally honest to myself right now.
I'm honestly more of a Damage Dealing Diva more than anything.
>>137123004
>>137123004
you have to shoot enemy in video game or they dont die
>>137123004
no. a guy that can solo the entire enemy team is better than any teamworking player.
>>137123004
This is the guy that complains about team balance in a pub and expects to get carried every game he plays.
>>137123064
>>137123075
>>137123184
Go play Call of Duty you ten year olds, let the adults work together and actually win.
>>137123064
mfw pinto doesn't top frag or damage
>>137123238
i did top damage and top damage that game though./......
>go in pubs
>ask who wants matchmaking pass
>give to the worst players that ask for one
>I'm polluting matchmaking with 200 hour shitters
>>137123287
but thats mfw face when you dont bro
>>137123307
I want to buy my tf2gf an australium and see if she gets pocketed on her first time playing
>>137123439
so it imaginary face................ weird bro...
>>137122951
>>137122934
for example in the actual 6s/hl/4s meta sollies/demomen are expected/required to deal good damage instead of getting kills, as that's either not practical or just someone else's job (i.e. scouts). In particoular, a roaming soldier's job is mostly centered around flank presence and denial, good timed rocket spam and crucial single picks.
you could also take the spy in hl as an example, as it is not really about how many kills you get but more about how important they were. would you say a spy who gets 15 times the enemy soldier in a match is better than a spy who catches the enemy med let's say 7 times?
>>137123469
what bro its a real face its mfw
How I deal with sentrys as a scout? The regular ones
>>137123562
both those spies would be top fraggers though, especially since spies get like 20 points per med backstab
I would take the first one because that's way more consistent and realistic as well, if a spy is getting the enemy medic 7 times, that's the fault of the other team, not the skill of the spy
>>137123679
dont look at them and they wont notice you
>>137123679
stay away from them or use your pistol from afar
>>137123562
a medic without a healing tasrget is harmless, i'd take the first spy
>>137123592
so its reveleaed....... your a ghost bro......
>>137123679
tell your team to take them out or switch to demo and take it out yourself. otherwise avoid
Those tips are retarded engineers don't just put a sentry out in Timbuktu no man's land it's always in a choke point or around a corner so the only thing you can do as a scout on the attacking team is to bonk past it and maybe try and kill some people who are respawning or be a good distraction to keep them from getting to the fight. That or bonk as a distraction for your team to focus fire on it and get an easy shot on it while it is shooting you
>>137123679
if it's behind a corner or something, you should leave it. maybe try to quickly peek and peck it with your scatty
if it's far away use your pistol. if there's an engie babysitting it though you're not gonna do shit
>>137123946
what is retarded about switching to a class that was designed to take out sentries?
mainfags are the cancer
>>137123862
bro only ghost here is you after i frag you bro
why is there not a filter that turns "bro" into Onii-chan
you too
>>137124101
no bro it u i think dopamine get release caise i kill u too many time that u start to dream bro
>>137124978
>mfw xn is mexican
why do people > out of 4chan in the modern age
>mfw Volvo instead of Valve meme
>>137125040
hmmm..... maybe bro but how do i know for sure you are not lying because i fragged you and you are dreaming now
>>137125296
why is he writing inb4
its not the same dude
is he on the other dudes side and thinks greentexting is acceptable on youtube or does he have no idea how to use inb4
i dont like this picture
>>137125454
oh siht bro..
>>137125730
its on ajermavideo
>>137125065
hes spanish, like, real spanish, not wall climber spanish
>>137125296
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater-than_sign#Electronic_mail
>The greater-than sign is used to denote quotations in the e-mail and newsgroup formats, and this has been taken into use also in forums.
>>137125296
>he thinks the quote arrow is a 4chan invention
it's been used in emails and the usenet since the early 90's, kid
>>137125858
>>137125869
why use it in a 4chan style outside 4chan then
>>137119496
Cloud 9 Hong Kong Cone for 70keys~
anyno micEU stacks?
>>137126914
not him but are you selling one?
>>137127106
no sorry, should not be too hard to find tho
i didn't realize it until awhile later but i got jewed pretty hard within my first 200 hours
>>137127293
In my first 200 hours I got scammed and I lost an unusual Glasgow Helm with a DarkBlaze effect, so at least you didn't get THIS cucked
>>137127293
I remember my first hat drop, it was Couvre Corner, and I traded it for a Natascha
>>137127078
Just talk you fucking beta nobody cares about what your voice sounds like
http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/51631
>>137127653
how much realistically for the special eyes
>>137127808
8 ref
because thats their price you kike
>>137127808
8 ref
https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/tf2g
Good tunes. Good times
>>137127630i'm a girl and i get constantly harassed when i use my mic
>>137128968
You're a "girl" who needs to visit a psychiatrist
>>137129037
no, i don't have a dick. i'm the real deal
>>137127078
Do people even use mics in mm?
>>137129085
Tits or I don't believe shit
>>137129164
this is a blue board :o
>>137129153
most don't
>>137129085
vocaroo pls goddess
anyone wanna mm hmu
id/solsolsol
preferably eu, preferably with a mic
>>137122637
I have no face because I rarely if ever topscore desu.
omg b4nny roasting muslek or just bantz??? i thought they were bros
http://youtu.be/R2M6h-aC6cQ
>>137119496
I don't have anything really flashy for those classes but I've got a 1/2 Demonflame Wet Works for sale, I'm asking 112 keys on it though. Has a halloween paint spell on it too, if that butters your biscuit.
>>137131242
All I can gleam is he needs a pocket medic so he can bitch about getting a killstreak.
What is the best koth map and why is it koth_king
>>137128968
as long as you do a good job of KILLing who cares??
they are harassing you probably because you are a shitter and cannot KILL
>>137129085
hey babe wanna b my gf?
>>137132238
you mean harvest
>>137132672
that's a funny way to spell lakeside
>>137132238
harvest is the best harvest is always the best
I only play viaduct and lakeside
I only do MvM and Gold Rush
>>137133336
8TH TIER PLEASE GO
koth maps are awful
>>137133752
the maps are nice but the gamemode itself is pretty ehh
5cp masterrace
>>137133752
So what you're saying is that the gamemode is awful?
>>137133336
>mvm
>wave 1 has a 1 tour stock scout and medic who only pockets the heavy
>kick scout and medic
>another low tour finally talks 'why did you kick my brother faggot?
>'he sucked'
>'fuck you ya faggot'
Mvm is full of such nice people
what's your favourite 5cp map? mine is granary
i don't want to say best because they're all amazing :]
>>137134036
no, the maps
the game mode is great and forces teams to be aggressive
>>137133375
More like 1st tier
>>137134523
Queue up with at least 3 other pals
>>137134523
>queue up with 1 friend
>everyone else is retards
>but we are epic fraggers so we still win the game with out kicking anyone>win australium blackbox
LOL
>>137135017
No one was on this morning. And I wasn't really feeling like sitting for a hour or two.
Being a top fragger does not always mean you're the best player on your team.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFqdJZljUGI
Skip to 2:12. What you'll see is how a good play isn't the one that gets you a lot of kills. In 6s and in highlander, the top fraggers are the medic and the pocket/demo. Those classes get the most heals and have the highest damage potential. However, a roamer jumping in at the right time serves as a great distraction for his team to move up and engage. The roamer made the right choice, the combo is simply following up on the space he created. Sure, the rest of the team will clean up and get kills, but the good player here was the roamer.
Similarly, a heavy will top frag in matchmaking. He does so much damage and and can be everywhere that he just cleans up kills. But he depends on his team to create space for him. Does the heavy take a lot of skill and decision making? No, not as much as the other teammates. But still, he top frags because of how the class is designed.
People who brag about top fragging are the same dweebs who go into valve servers with an unusual wearing, australium medigun wielding medic being their buttplug pocket medic. They like the power trip, they've never played with a team and gotten past silver.
>>137136385
Aegis is a highlander nigger and should not be listened to.serious he's pretty cool
>>137136385
Holy shit is that AcerGamer?
>>137136385
bottom fragging child detected
get fucking good
>>137136385
t. bottom fragger who complains when they cant defend last
like bro just shoot them LOL
>>137136385
this video was useless, he literally said nothing but 'help your team' and 'follow the fucking objective'
Why hasn't valve nerfed the pyro already?
>"hey guys im gonna create space"
>bomb in do 40 damage to the medic
>medic doesnt immediately get cleaned up
>"wow im getting baited"
OR
>"hey guys im really handsome and a top fragger, let's go kill some hippies"
>bombs medic, kills him and does 100 damage to everyone
>team swiftly kills the rest
>"great job team! My top fragging abilities have made the enemies tremble in fear!"
YOU DECIDE WHICH ONE IS BETTER /TF2G/.
>>137137287
>wanting to nerf the most useless class in the game
it's like asking valve to buff medic and soldier
>>137137316
top fragger is always the best choice my man
>>137137414
>Medic is OP
>>137137316
seriously though top fraggers are usually medics AND THEY DON'T EVEN FRAG
>>137137414
>pyro
>not OP
>>137137532
thats not TOP FRAGGING YOU RETARD
thats TOP SCORING
>>137137539
If you're bad yeah
>>137137532
>he doesn't frag as medic
HOWS STEEL LOL
>>137137742
Pyro wasn't even a threat till blast compression and OP weapons were introduced.
>>137137826
pyro was completely broken during the beta. as were demoman and soldier.
>>137137826
and he still isnt
>>137137532
Top fragging = Total kills
Top scoring = Total points
>>137137686
same FUCKING THINGnot really but fuck you regardless
Why do MGE players never wear cosmetics??
>>137136385
> same dweebs who go into valve servers with an unusual wearing, australium medigun wielding medic being their buttplug pocket medi
I'm just too good for pub but too bad for lobby. Fancy guns and hats means nothing.
>>137138109
If you can be effective with the pyro, he's still OP.
>>137138196
probably insecurity. I have it myself, it's embarrassing to get fucked by a gibus soldier when you have an australium rocket launcher and burning unusual
>>137138196
Alts
Pretending they're new
People who don't want to be made fun of for having good items but low skill
If you type "quit killing me" the enemy team will all shout "No!" Try it out. It's the funniest thing. People get so confused.
>>137138196
>>137138369
>>137138371
or maybe they dont like cosmetics and just care about playing the videogame???? maybe???
>>137138506
I never care about cosmetics and usually stick to stock weapons unless a side or upgrade is truly worth it.
>>137138369
Ya the more I play it the more I feel like i should take off my unusual and strange skin weapon
>>137138196
I always meet mge players with unusuals/hats
Why do a lot of people that like competitive TF2 like to make fun of harmless entertainment Youtube channels? Does this happen in other games' communities?
>>137119496
Merc's mow hawk , can get decent effects with those 100 keys.
Fuck I'll gladly give you mine for those 100. It's Miami nights and works with almost any cosmetic. Mined valued at around 115 pure but I'd do 100, looking to get out of the hat game and so far mines the only one for sale
>>137138891
of course, it also happens with speedruns and let's plays
>>137138891
Lets plays are autism and the cancer killing vidya.
>>137138308
lol
>>137139451
It's impossible to play a pub game without faggy OP pyros ruining it
>>137138967
Got a backpack link? Ill give it a consider
>>137138891
Because casual TF2 is a disgusting clusterfuck of cancer, where competitive TF2 has strict rules, high level DM and teamplay, with no silliness
You'll notice how b4nny despises silliness of TF2 in any way. Like a lot of pro players, he hates the pootis heavy that throws the enemy team medium health kits. to pro players, TF2 is a team based DM game with a lot of DM mechanics. To the pootis heavy, TF2 is a dress up simulator with congas and sandviches
>>137140473
>takes a game like tf2 seriously
You are the cancer, senpai
I must be out of the loop, when did the All-Father update?? Been hoarding that beard for years and it keeps getting better???
>>137140604
TF2 is a serious competitive game like Street Fighter and Smash Bros is.
>>137140806
Did you write that post with a straight face?
>>137140682
A couple updates ago now. It also has a new style. Also, the Bot Dogger is all class now.
>>137140806
>Street Fighter
What? I understand Smash Bros, but not Street Fighter.
POTTIS BIRD :DDD
>mfw playing MvM alone
can't wait for that incoming losing streak ;_;
>>137141076
Solo queuing in tf2 is a lot worse than in csgo or dota
>>137141157
agreed. i hope they fix it until release.
Medics were a mistake
I'm a big independent Scout that needs no Medic
Do you think valve will quake-ify more stuff? They gave soldier the quake rocket launcher, why not give the rest of the team quake weapons?
>>137141506
Because reasons.
>>137141506WHEN WILL THE PYRO SHOOT FIRE BALLS??????????
>>137141286
>mfw ubering a good scout
>>137141506
DOOM crossover incoming, are you betting on weapons, reskins or more cosmetics that dont fit?
>>137141076
Really wish I could play more often desu but I just can't care about tf2 all that much anymore
>mfw 9 health
anyone else hate when you lose land an airshot in soldier v soldier fight but they still kill you anyway?
>>137141506
Just give me the Quake Grenade Launcher, including all noises
CLONK CLONKCLONK, fucker
>>137141673
Team fortress started as a quake mod and valve gave the soldier the weapon for team fortress 15th anniversary
>>137141673
Cosmetics that don't fit and reskins.
three days ago
>join valve server
>join spec
>one team has a scout who has absolute no idea where to go
>stands still several times for a few seconds looking around
>meleeing around
>another scout on the team just slightly less bad
>a pyro with fov 10
>a soldier who doesn't realize he is getting shot and shoots teammates 6 times until he knows their arent spies
alright i'll join the other team
>be demo
>encounter first scout around a corner
>kills me in 2 shots
>encounter second scout
>doesn't get hurt by two directly under him
>switch to soldier
>encounter pyro around corner
>immediately fire a rocket and hurt myself by like 30 dmg
>die to a degreaser before the shooting animation ended with no enemies around
>encounter soldier around a corner
>we both fire direct rockets simultaneously
>he kills me and has 35 health left
fuck this shit, if the game doesn't allow me to have fun, i will fucking break it
today>bought lmaobox
>miss like every 4th shot
>every 3rd headshots gets registered as bodyshot
how can a game have such a fucking pathetic piece of undeniable bullshit excuse of a hitreg?
>>137141681
do you stack?
>>137141791
I know, but since they are both similar in their influence, it reminded me of the remake that is coming out.
>>137141984
Not always, but I mostly play mm with friends whenever they invite me and I'm not doing anything
Open MM - when?
>>137141886
you actually bought lmaobox?
>>137142295
yeah i wrote that
>>137140875
Yea I'm still laughing at all the folks wot hoarded the Shit Dogger instead xD
Any inklings about new multi/allclass changes coming up?
>>137142274
that's stacking
>>137142453
cool
>>137122637
Oh? Tell me more, your obviously a valuable member of the team with relevant information.
>>137140205
Here /profiles/76561198013556585
Add the rest
Just add me if you want it, it's the first item in my bp. Only 5 owners and blah blah
Damn 4chan thinking my post is spam
I want to touch a boy's butt!
>>137142443
The Hot Dogger, actually. Both were submitted, and I think accepted even, its just that the Bot was added first.
>>137142591
>image.jpg
This is how I know you are a bottom fragger, silly iphone poster
>>137140205
backpack tf/profiles/76561198013556585
There hope that works, for the mowhawk
Tried to get past the damn spam bot bs for ya
sum up MM in one image
GO
>>137143079
>>137143079
>>137143079
>demo
nah
>>137142882
My computer shit itself. I don't give a fuck what my medium is; where ever I am, I must also shitpost
>>137143079
>>137143232
I can respect. +1 frags
>>137143197
/thread
>>137143232
Are you Australian?
>>137143197
seriously, who thought this drawing shit was a good idea?
>>137143079
I fucking hate pyros
i hope they will add this to tf2 MM
>>137143503
i want to frag feather's pussy with my DICK
>>137143642
Stop being bad at tf2
>>137143671
They should add a hat that keeps track of players that you've reported that have gotten banned.
>>137143826
that's genius
>>137143826
people would just report everyone
>>137143826
As long they never add that thing in CS:GO where you can get banned from matchmaking for too starting too many votekicks, it's all good.
>>137143934
Have it track two stats. Players reported and players banned. That way, you can know at a glance who is a faggot that reports anyone, and valve can just ignore, or even take away, their bullshit.
>>137143467
I don't know, it's supposed to relieve the stress after a stressful match, I guess?
>>137144225
yeah, but all you get are badly drawn dicks.
>>137144308
>I like drawing dicks - no homo.
if youre dying to pyros then you suck at tf2.
pyro seriously needs to be buffed
Pyros need more than buffs. They need a rework.
>>137144509
Fix the switch speed on degreaser. and damage boost the flaregun IMO.
id say give it 5 more damage.
>>137144509
No, pyro needs a nerf. It's soldier that needs a buff
>>137144605
not falling for it
>>137144509
Buff him by taking him out of the game. Give the powerjack and backscratcher to heavy (mix eviction notice with powrrjack).
>>137144593
The pyro needs an increased range for his stock flamethrower
>>137144509
>Buffing the crutch class
Pyro is fine as-is unless you want to do a full rework (in which case it wouldn't be Pyro anymore). If Pyro were to gain power equivalent to the full-time classes then the game would become trivial to play.
>>137144804
this
>>137144804
Pyro is my favorite class and I think the stock is fine
>>137144979
The range for the flamethrower is pretty short. It could use an increase in range.
If pyro gets buffs can the targe get afterburn immunity again?
>>137145086
Maybe a slight increase but not anything big
>>137145146
Just delete the pyro
Specialize more the flamethrowers
Stock: jack-of-all-trades flamethrower
Backburner: KILLing flamethrower, with airblast
Degreaser: support flamethrower
Phlogistinator: the other KILLing flamethrower, no airblast
Also, a few Axtinguisher changes:
·-33% damage against enemies not on fire
·25% faster deploy speed. Does not stack
·50% slower holster speed
>>137144509
love this meme
>mfw 30 seconds late to a guy buying a pass for a 16 ref taunt
>>137144509
Dank meme. Pyro takes no skill to kill with, nerf it.
>>137144593
I would say a faster reload instead.
>>137144804
I think Pyro should be able to adjust the distance of his flamethrower, at the cost of more ammo used.
>>137145536
go in MM right now and show me a 5 killstreak with pyro. since he takes "no skill to kill with" you should be able to do this in 20 minutes.
the class is fucking useless in comp, unless you're defending the last point, in which case you're stalling the enemy, not killing them.
>>137145353
Go away b4nny, you haven't even put 20 hours into the class.
strange chucklenuts/sir hootsalot when???
>>137132087
Sent
>>137145737
Pyro is a worthless class to begin with. The pyro should be banned since it ruins the fun, only a faggot who wants to ruin a game plays the pyro.
i'm upset that the killer bee skin even exists
someone post the skin tiers chart for scatterguns QUICK
>>137143713
that's not MM you idiot
>>137145353
Additional ideas:
1) Backburner aids to the KILLing with a faster holster speed, allowing for easier combo kills. Normal or slower deploy speed. Still has the airblast cost penalty.
2) Degreaser aids to support with a faster deploy speed, for those critical moments when you need to reflect a crocket right now or extinguish a teammate in his last points of life. Normal or slower holster speed. Maybe lessen the airblast cost penalty.
3) Phlog is still phlog and it's there to make shitters that can't go behind and kill you as soon as you leave the taunt cry.
4) Airblast player push force depends on distance. Pushed players trajectory has deviation and is less predictable.
>>137146792
Nice work Sherlock you got me
>>137146667
god tier: corsair
high tier: killer bee
shit tier: all others
>>137143826
>>137144204
The Horn Blower - hat is a buff banner bugel either through the head with two styles: class clown, sideways, like the joke arrow hats. Utopic placed on the head like a unicorn horn.
Another idea is an all class reskin, the Ban Hammer: given to players that have given outstand support to the community by reporting accurately. (100 successful bans to earn)
"Sure nobody likes a squealer, but it sure pays well"
>>137146110
i bet u thought this was funny
