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Snow is a Euphemism for Cocaine Edition

Previous heist in custody : >>136521935

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (needs new maintainer)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFOuIXvyO4s

>Discord
https://discord.gg/0uV3K0bedAayoSAB
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One
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2th for big lobby a shit mod
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>>136835443
but Deathwish is too hard and I want to bring an extra friend
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>>136835443
Is too early mod but I didnt had any problems playing in a couple of lobbies.
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Any updates on the talent tree changes? I've only seen mastermind and enforcer so far
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>>136836131
lazy fucks are doing it 1 per week each friday.
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Kawaii heister when Overkill ?
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>>136836131
One per week, the big update being in for 3-4 weeks at best
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9th for the memelord Locke.

http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=15743
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DEAD
E
A
D
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>>136834504
Is that a M1014 jimmy is using or a new weapon ?
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>>136842672
>Acting dumb on purpose
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14th for Big Lobby mod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx4UV9qYMdw
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>>136843286
>Literally >>136835443
We acting dumb now?
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Do I get the wolf pack dlc if I buy now the DLC for the first Payday?
I still play that one with some friends
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>>136844773
Yes
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>>136844773
Yeah you get everything, the masks, weapon and heists
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DonAcDum is a good track
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>>136846492
Counterfeit 2016 and Three way deal 2016 are bad tracks, like come on Simon.
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>>136846927
Nah m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0EcBjf-Vp4
That fucking pause @ 0:44
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China lake was a mistake, ruining the balance of the game
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>>136835443
does it interfere with cheevos?
I have 1 more friend that plays than I have space in a normal lobby, and bringing everyone would be fun but I'm also a disgusting cheevo hunter.
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YEAH
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>playing grinder in open spaces areas
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>>136855421
>Playing with an ictv in open space areas
Cover is essential for both suits and armor. Otherwise bring enough lube for sniper dozers aka black dozers.
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>>136856836
>that ending of beneath the mountain DW,

Casual filter/10
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>Come back to Payday 2 after a long break
>My payday is a fucking microtransaction Safe
>Uninstalled again
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>>136858392
So they still got the microtransactions going? And here i was about to install it.
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>>136858392
>>136859474
>even more "I stop playing since X" posters

Where you even coming from?
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>>136860197
4chan
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>>136860197

DEEZ NUTZ

GOTTI
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>>136858392
>being this triggered over optional MT.
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33th for mandatory Tribe video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmBf6BhqgXE
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>>136786830
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Situation Normal (slakt_3)
- Sniperino (any25_sniper_kills)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>136865221
Big Lobby update when
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someone start a big lobby
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>>136865389
>>136865816
Little extra info I discovered, If you use PD:TH hud it seems compatible and you will see each heister instead of the clustefuck of the normal hud.
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>bomb squad+rationing
This is too much fun
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>>136865994
It needs to be updated to make it compatible without the need of other mods
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>ghost will never let you sneak around during assaults and perform stealthy one-hit-kills on special enemies unnoticed
>ghost will never be useful
>ghost will never be fun
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>>136871405
>Ghost will never be a heister
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>>136871976
>Ghost will never give you a blowjob
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>Gets dropped a Dallas Drill
>Decides to open safe
>Team Boost Bronco Broken-in
Ayy tnx Overkill, I'm never a team player anyway.
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tfw there will never be another crimefest/sping break tier event
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>>136874446
maybe, but at least they don't ask for money anymore.
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>>136875209
>electrical brass knuckles
>free

wot
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>>136872572
>mfw fugitive players are so self-centered they will always suck for the concealment bonus and never get a team bonus to contribute to the crew,
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>>136875891
>All thanks of the black market ;)
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>>136877282
my man
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>>136871976
>There will never be a Herman "Sugar" Cain heister
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>>136878101
>wanting to play as Sugar Pickin' Cain
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>>136877282
>Dat Jimmy HBV shitter,

i bet a goat skin he ragequitted after he went in custody
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>>136878515
That's a Flak Jacket. BVs don't have sleeves.
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>go down once
>everything goes to shit

Being carry is suffering
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>>136878670
>inspire guy goes down,
>everything goes to shit.

That's a bit for this i can't stand silent killer retards
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>>136878670
>join overkill Birth of Sky
>already getting the third pallet lifted away
>ready to escape
>suddenly everything goes to shit somehow
>two people in custody
>just me and one guy in the sewers
>put down a medic bag for him
>he ignores it
>goes down and into custody
>have to fight through the sewers and do the gates by myself, in just a grinder suit deck and akimbo SMGs
>somehow make it to the boat
>getting shot at down the river
>go down just at the escape
>swan song the rest of the way and make it before going down
>I fucking win

Fitting since I was playing as Jimmy, I guess.
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I'm using the UAR (Aug) assault rifel and Krinkov smg combo. The UAR has plenty of ammo and decent damage, and Krinkov has more damage and is quite accurate and stable. Is there a better assault rifle or secondary for me to use?
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>>136877282
christ, all 3 of you are shitters
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>>136881101
Bring explosive.
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This is fun
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>>136882764
Its nice when it works
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>>136882838
It does, just don't forget to install the .pdmod
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>>136882903
I mean, when it isnt crashing when joining someone elses game in progress. I was playing with walrus last night on hotline and Birth of sky
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Never again.
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>>136884682
What heist is that?
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>close to finishing a multi-day Heist
>host quits
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>>136885557
fwb
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>>136884682
I dont understand
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>>136889348
it's some old meme that was supposed to die a long time ago
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>>136890046
Ive been pn /pdg/ for a longer while now and I have no idea what that pic presents
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>>136871976
>somebody hasn't made a mod that replaces one of the Heisters voice with his instead
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>>136879890
>Find last money pallet on the street
>SWAT van rolls up right next to it

fug
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>>136884682
>memeing this hard
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ayoo breaking baddy heists day 1 is up
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>Stealth only

Feels good man
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Grinder nerfs when?
They don't even have to reduce the hp regen that much, they just need to stop the health regen when taking damage. Watching grinderfags on anything below DW standing in the middle of the enemy fire like they don't give a fuck is ridiculous.
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http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/hardcorehenry-heists/
>Stealth only
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>>136893037
>implying that simply nerfing the dodge bonuses is not the way to balance it
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>>136893328
Grinder doesn't give any dodge bonus though.
The suit only gives you 10% dodge without any skills, 20% max with sb.
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>Devs stream with a solo stealth on Overkill,

oh this is gonna be so gud.
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Are the drones gonna be moving cameras or an actual new enemy?
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>>136894598
>shoot it,
>it explodes and alert the whole up,

Yeah, just see it as a new moving camera.

Inb4 titan on DW too.
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welp, there goes the loud only streak we had, now stelf babies will get back in the gaming and asking "sigilo?" even in hox breakout, great.
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>Heists
>Plural
>Only one
OVERKIKE
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>>136895478
Its just the first day you pooper
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>>136895478
>DAY 1
there's one tomorrow you sperg, learn to read.
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>>136895370
>SILENCIOSO ?!?
>STELF ?

hyped/10
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>>136895562
>No day two listed on the page.
Nice try kike.
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>>136896791
>free weekers

every time.
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So why did they release a STEALTH ONLY heist in a collab with something like hardcore henry? A action move about shooting and blowing shit up in first person.
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>>136897693
Because Overkill devs are fucking unpredictable.
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HAHA ALL THE REUSED ASSETS

And here I tought well be getting a heist in Russia near Kremlin with hordes of OMOH and blyatmen.
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>>136898309
>traincars look different in Russia!
>I know, because of my Euro-train simulator vidya games!

jesus, you're why we can't have nice things.
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>>136898309
They could've at least changed the character models of the cops, or just retexture them.
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>>136898309
>implying we won't get that tomorrow
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>>136898309
that's just the first heist, they're saving the best for the rest.
Which only raises questions: did they actually record a bunch of new lines and created new assets for a single heist or are they planning to expand? After Aftershock, GGC and now this, it seems like the gang significantly broadened their turf.
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>>136898309
Who cares if it's reused shit

oh wait you care lmao
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>>136901507
Not shiteating plebs like (you) obv.
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>>136897693
is that map even out yet or does it not come out for another 2 days, because they haven't announced "ALL THE COOL SHIT" yet?
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>>136901120
>implying Crime.net is DC only
the Clowns are limited. Crime.net is everywhere.
and Bain is Bob McKendrick
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>>136895478
>>136896791
>>136902319
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>>136902552
>implying mckendrick is not simply enjoying the life, getting free blowjobs while shaking the elephant's hand and yelling about how the payday gang is evil.
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when should I start DW?
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>>136901120
>After Aftershock, GGC and now this, it seems like the gang significantly broadened their turf.

North pole or space heist when ?
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>>136905826
>Space Heist
>Gang, go to the Moon to steal some moon-meth made from the finest moon rocks
>Police are intergalactic ayy lmaos
>Cloakers float around and teleport
>Tasers have the Force
>Bulldozers have laser miniguns
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>>136905613
After two or three infamous levels. Just because you reached the "legal level" doesn't mean you're ready for this.
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>be european
>all teams are ruskies
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>>136908418
>Living in Lithuania, right next to Russia
>90% of teams are ruskies
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WHICH DLC'S ARE ESSENTIAL?

THEY'RE ALL ON SALE

I REALLY WANT THE WESTERN PACK FOR THE REPEATER RIFLE

And Clover to be able to play as a qt3.14
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>>136906703
>Cloakers float around and teleport
So nothing changes.
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>>136909413
DLC unlocker or fuck off.
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>>136909413
No no, just buy the goat simulator pack and the Gage chivalry one.

Also take the dragan character's pack for epic suit builds.
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>>136909413
BBQ pack if you want to do Deathwish, otherwise get whatever tickles your fancy.
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Balaclava without tactical dick sucking hole when ?
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>>136905826
>North pole
You cannot imagine my disappointment when the Santa's Workshop heist was running around a warehouse guarding thugs packing drugs instead of a Big Bank style Stealth/Loud option heist breaking into an actual santa's workshop guarded by patrolling elves.
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>>136914128
black cloth material on Gage Blade mask.
you're done.
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WHERE'S MUH DRUM MAGS OVERKILL ?
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>>136916219
YOU BUY STEAKOUT 1.25 US NOW!
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How do I read the big oil calc
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>>136917496
fuck off
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>>136917689
wew nice general
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>>136917496
Really simple: there are three intels to find in big oil day 2, one outside the laboratory, the other two inside, one being on one of the computer. Just type what you see in the link and you should get your right engine.

http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
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>>136917865
Thanks.
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>>136858224
???
you can cover behind the chopper or jump down that wall under the helipath, you also have the building for cover

unless you're trying to sanic it and plant the c4 at the same time a wave is taking place
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>>136864331
>meme mask
>even during the infamy 5 era
dw mask was and forever will be the biggest shitter filther
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>>136919249
>that feel when kicking non-infamous level 30 shitters with the DW,

Never gets old
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>>136877282
all we need from these subhumans now are tokarev, bizon, pp2000 and something else.

I would settle with a makarov so I can have the gas mask, ak74, molotov(imagining its vodka) and go looking for artifacts
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>>136919025
The C4 isn't the problem, you get that done within a minute of the doors opening.

It's getting the 8 bags that are lying around outside.
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>>136920398
>8 bags lying around outside
I don't think I follow. The loot you just got from the safes?
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>new stealth heist

finally

loudfags can suck a hard one
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>>136921209
>muh fag wars meme
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>>136921209
>loudfags can suck a hard one

Hey fug you, using the 31 concealment Car-4 and 28 concealment judge loadout meta for every single jobs is not funny.
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>>136921209
Hope you enjoy resetting five hundred times because someone made a misstep.

I want to enjoy stealth but you can't trust anyone in it.
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>>136922184
>Not using the GL40 with a handgun

Grenade launcher attachment fucking when?
AR need a buff.
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>>136908895
>live in Russia
>all teams are ruskies
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135th for memes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW80CDFlICU
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>>136923259
>AR need a buff.

All they need is a huge accuracy buff so they can reach the 80 breakpoint more easily, trying to hit anything at long range below that point is just pathetic
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>>136923259
>underbarrel grenade launcher
>holds 6 shots(+1)
>normal rounds gimped by 86%
>ammo pickup goes to hell for both the 40mm and 5,56x45/7,62x39(assuming you can only put it on certain assault rifles)
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I need the Marksman Stock for my the FAL, do I have to get the cheevos for it or can I get it through a daily job reward?
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There are people that watch/make videos like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ahLaFYnFxnA#t=73

The way he pronounces the multiplayer is so fucking retarded, who the FUCK says X instead of TIMES?!
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>>136925154
Fal weapon mods are only obtainable through achievements unfortunately. Good luck for the stealth mods though.
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>>136925154
you can use quite literally any current cheat and unlock it, or a standalone inventory unlocker mod

however, shiheads with lbtgo """""anti cheat""""" will get a "anon has something he should ;(((" notification and bitch about it
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Fatalities in Payday 2 when?
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>>136926331
jiro
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3 shot burst mod when?
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>>136927330
Never.
DMC Weapon Overhaul adds it for a few guns
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>>136920629
The chopper area of Beneath the Mountain has 8 extra loot bags scattered around.

There's even an achievement for it.

It's in the same kind of green Murkywater boxes that you had to open at the beginning to get the blowtorch and shit.
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>>136927330
Use macros.
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>dodge shitter host
>has ngbto with 700h minimum
>2 almost decent other dodge shitters
>masterforcer me
>couitnerfeit dw
>waiting on escape drawing
>we all deploy our deployables
>shitter host drops molotovs on us and fires his good goy rpg
>other guys go down
>my armor isn't even cracked
>inspire them
>he does the same thing again, now the armor is broken and the fire burns my health
>inspire them again, eat a fap kit
>he does yet once again
>they go into custody
>I still haven't lost half my health
>he disconnects

I can't help but hate those people. It's like Clover/Jimmy users or people with the memegun or meme masks, they're just garbage the moment you see them.
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>>136928042
>has lgbto with 700h minimum
FTFY
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Does anyone want to help me with the Funding Father achievement?
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Please don't let the thread die guys.
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Looks like Murkies heist is coming out, eh lads? I would be much obliged, if you popped off and did that.
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>>136932586
fo sho
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>>136932219
>Always have to keep Inspire aced in all my builds because this game has devolved into a grinder killsport with people sprinting into squads to kill bulldozers and sprinting around the map trying to camp all the spawn points at once.
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How do I make a dodge build now?I had a long break
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>>136934564
grinder + whatever you fucking want because it dont matter with grinder.
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>>136934865
I dont have grinder,do I just kill myself?
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>>136929814
i like this meme
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>>136934979
you suffer until you get enough exp.
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>>136934979
dlc unlocker
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>>136935230
Is there something else good I can do untill then.I had the old full dodge build.
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>>136935385
Rogue is still good enough. It's only -5% from the old days.

Builds haven't changed at all. Just weapons.
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>>136935268
Wait,what?
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>>136935684
What weapons would you recommend?
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>>136936049
gl40/bow + any thing with good conceal
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>>136936049
Macaroni
HE Judge
Bronco
GL40

are the ones I cycle through these days.

GL40+Bronco is obscenely good in this stupid pistol meta. Bronco can one-shot headshot greys and one-shot bodyshots all mooks in OVK. Only have to live with 7 detection instead of <5. Assuming you get SB or LB. If not, I guess you can get anything.

I'm sure somebody has a sniper rifle or SMG suggestion somewhere for dodge builds.
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>>136937350
>SMG suggestion
anything with high rof will do.
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>>136937350
Pretty sure flamethrower still works with dodge builds
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>>136937350
Alright,thank you,one last question : What about the skins?Are they worth buying or should I just buy the rest of DLCs?
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>>136939197
DLC first, skins for memes
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>>136939197
Use the DLC unlocker, as long as you don't plan pubbing a lot.
I bought a few of the dlc's but ultimately decided that it wasn't worth paying 4.99 for a single piece of gear or perk deck.
It's easy as fuck to install with the BLT, look in the op for directions.
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>>136942552
>Not waiting for sale to get literally 4 DLC at the price of 1
Look at this dumb wanker
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>>136939197
DLC Unlocker/Skin unlocker or fuck off.
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>>136942869
I leave the kick cheaters on option and I always leave lobbies where the host is marked as cheater.
Get a job, poorfags.
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when the reload works just right
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>>136937350

Bronco can 1HS tans and 2HS tasers in DW, even snipers/DMRs/M308 need silent memer or Underdog active to do that. Deagle/Beagle need above plus Gunslinger Aced to do that.
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>>136937350

Also the Bronco + GL40 can get down to 4 detection if you use Goonmod to get the +3 Concealment boost
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>>136943651
>LE JOB MEME
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We ded
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daily reminder that grinder sucks

muscle is where it's at
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>>136952676
Muscle is way too OP. The other armor perk decks are better than they ever were, but thanks to how Muscle has become, there's no reason to use anything else with armor. Even if you try to go for variety all you feel is how gimped you are in comparison.
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>drone cameras
>with paydays desync

Overkill what the fuck are you doing
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>>136956619
Can't wait for ecms to make them fall and break and activate an alarm so you can't ecm rush it
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>Stealth only
fuck the new heist, I know what I will be rushing and never doing again.
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DED
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Super ded
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>I'LL FUCK YOU UP
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Why does Clover only talk about dicks and fucking ?
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>>136926331
>Jiro get the ability to mutilate cloakers when holding the katana like an autist,
>Bodhi is able to actually fuck up the taser's face when using the Pussypus sniper rifle,

They may have forgotten to give a gimmick to Jimmy but yeah it's coming.
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Nerfs when?
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>>136968102
Why nerf it
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>>136970810

why not
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>>136965334
because you aren't man enough to please her.
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>>136953329
Infiltrator is op. Health regeneration for 1 hit and damage reduction 32%.
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>>136968102
Nerf stability and accuracy and we're good. it shouldn't be that great.
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>tfw your build isn't meta enough for DW, but it's fun
>tfw you could probably make it meta simply by changing your guns, but you like your mosconi sawed off with a gangsta grip and sawed off because it looks cool

I am a shitter.
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>>136978653
>mosconi
>make it meta
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>>136968102
it's not even that good
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>>136979696
>180 pistol
>not that good
fucking free-weekenders
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>>136979945
>180

haha yea with what

gunslinger?

lmao
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>>136968102
>not bronco

revolver masterrace
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>That Amcar accuracy,

Holy shit, is that even possible to be this shit ? And pubbies still want to keep it at level 60 offs
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Dead game
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*sigh* Will we ever get another real HEIST like Shadow Raid. I miss stealth missions.

No ECM Rushing is not stealthing.
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>own legendary skins legit,
>still get tagged as cheater on other players screens,


JUST
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>>136984086
read the announcement fgt
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>>136834504
OK I just bought this game, what should I expect?
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>>136986071
Hundred hours of fun with friends.
Still decent amount of fun with communicate pubs,
Mixed experiences with silent pubs,
bad time with bots.
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>>136986753
Unless you get better bots.
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So I've been gone since the whole Crimefest fiasco, someone give me the tl;dr on what I've missed. pls
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>>136834504
why haven't they added more escapes and police variants.

games getting easy again
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>>136988639
skins are no longer p2w since the statboost now drop, and can get them in monthly jobs

second weapon rebalance, did nothing, pistols still op as shit, shotguns a shit, everything else is alright.

silly Halloween heist in a rat map.

Point break crossover dlc, with 2 good loud only heist, and a op pistol

New heister for free from point break, Bodhi, annoying surfer dude that f2ps love, comes with a free sniper riffle and an alright perkderk, the Ex-president.

Goat sim meme heist, a heist with all the gimicks from other heist, with the longfellow from Meltdown, burning building from HLM day 2. the cage and pilot from GO bank. comes with a sidegrade of the loco.

Wolf pack "2" (is just wolf pack ported) Free for anyone with the original wolf pack.
2 heists from PD:TH, Undercover is exactly the same but without the point of no return.
counterfeit still can't be stealth all the way, but now you can print infinite money if you feel like.
Comes with the China lake, a pump-action grenade launcher secondary.

and now this, the hardcore henry character pack and heists, for free.
Jimmy is a guy with magic who can't die and is a coke addict, comes with a Dual smg primary and single smg secondary, perk derk is meh.

first heist is stelf only, second will be announced tomorrow with maybe the stuff from >>136875209
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>>136922339
When will people finnaly get it?
Stealth should be played solo only
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>>136990130
Proper stealth with you crew.
Feels good man.
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I'M RICH
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>>136989846
>shitty Halloween heist in an unfun map.

There, fixed it for you
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Who else can't wait for Car Shop 2.0
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>>136995752
>mfw pubbies will shoot with their unsilenced pistols or try to hug the cops, ending up cuffed,

Yeah, hyped/10
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>>136994982
FOR FUCK SAKE WOLF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G78CMTqZhB8
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>>136929814
>forcing a meme you didn't even start
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Yo /pdg/ I was an usual here but I stopped to play months ago.

I made a music track, for memories and fun.
A cool guy on internet modded it into the game.

I don't know if it's worth but I give you the link in case some of you are interested.

Mod: http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=15799
Music: https://soundcloud.com/lemmyrodul/cashsample

I wanted to do big music modes back in the days but it was heavy digging and I'm a pussy.
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Am i doing it right ?
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>>136934564
I've never used grinder since gaiboi came out and probably never will. Muscle is good and ex-buttbuddies is trash but better than nothing.
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>>136997461
Makes more people wanting to dance than to heist but it's cool.

>replace shadow and trickery,

Shit, you could have said it earlier.
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>>136997515
not dmr so no
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>>136997515
>not even 92 dmg
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>>136998628
muh longe-range accuracy and top stability
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>>136998779
Oh, sorry. I didn't notice you play easykill ;)
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>picking up the same parachute as the other guy
>he has it
>realized too late that I'm jumping off the plane with no parachute

fug
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>>136999926
get the fuck up
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>>136998628
Is 92 even a breakpoint?
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>>137002129
91 is
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>>137002252
What is it? Some kind of irrelevant shit to oneshot greys or something?
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>>137002362
two shots for tans, you shitter.
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>>137002547
Literally no guns reach that breakpoint. Too high for AR and pistols, too low for snipers, DMR kits and revolvers.
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>>137003021
niiger, AMR-16 reaches that without DMR and so can Eagle Heavy.
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>>137003021
>>137003305
>Accuracy: 40
>Stability: 12
Wew
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>>137003425
Just put this together, didn't even optimize.
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>>137003801
>Total of ammo: 90
Just go with the dmr kit a this point.
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Remember to edit you're weapons! Open on notepad++ to change values, drop on mods folder once satisfied.

>firearms
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gbfszgmqw2h2fwk/DIY%20Guns%20Rebalance.rar?dl=0

>melee
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p9iz0higuu3f0oc/DIY%20Melee%20Rebalance.rar?dl=0
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>>137003893
>he couldn't carry DW with 90 ammo before Crimefest doubled the gun's damage
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>>137003893
bruv, 90 ammo ARs were legit even before the Unbalance ramped up ammo pickups like a mofo. It was always a matter of whether they could hit the breakpoints and whether you had perfect aim.
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>>137005298
Wish we could go back to those days.
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ok I really need to know, how the fuck do people manage to run out of ammo or need ammo bags with NORMAL weapons? I guess I understand if you're using special weapons or custom shells but seriously, I run over 2 ammo drops and I already have 20+ rounds which equal around 12 more ammo drops which in turn equal infinite ammo.
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>The Mosconi is so strong that it would still be a viable weapon for DW even if Overkill were to reduce his base damage by 40
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>>137005640
some people shoot instead of aiming.
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>>137005640
Most non-shitters play with a main weapon for basic cops and have a second one to deal with shields, which means they'll use the same weapon to deal with 80% of enemies. Not everyone is a fucking idiot who brings both and AR and an SMG and has to circle around like a fucking retard everytime a shield appears. Not everyone plays on babby difficulty where you can kill every cop with one bullet. Not everyone is an idiot who sits on his ass and waits for the enemies to come at him to start shooting or runs around the map in the middle of the enemy fire to pick up ammo drops. Being able to camp and hold a position for some time without having to worry about ammo is a fucking huge advantage.
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>>137007968
>babby difficulty where you can kill every cop with one bullet
you mean dw?
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What`s the optimal Mastermind/Enforcer build centered about Assault Rifle`s?
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Waiting for the revamped difficulty where current overkill is moved to normal.
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DED
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>>136953329
I use Muscle + Hostage Taker with a suit and the Dodge+ Fugitive/Ghost skills; 25% while crouching, 35% while sprinting.

...It actually works. In Overkill, at least. Not sure about DW since even with ICTV I've not got gud enuff yet.
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hey you
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