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>New player guide
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http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/General_Help
>BYOND client
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https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
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remove waifu cancer
remove waifu cancer
>>135981868
God damnit sci what the fuck
remove waifu cancer
remove waifu cancer
How did that shuttle just blow up? I crashed before I saw what happened.
>Assistant steals a bunch of captain gear including the nuke disk
>Two assistants squat in ai core and start adding stupid laws
>Clown stun gloves a security officer for no reason
>None of them are antag
Life of a security officer everybody.
>>135982272
ling went nuclear
remove waifu cancer
>>135982272
termedclepe was unbanned and he likes to do shit like that.
>>135982342
tfw I lived because of my mech
I still slipped like 3 times on my own lube
>mfw I was the xenobiologist's borer
>mfw the ling horrors were in science and I had no way of finding them
What a terrifying experience.
>round is going well
>oh wait, its changelings, fuck you
>get parastung, stripped, then just spaced
Im sorry Will the borer, you kept strong when one one came to help. I salute you for your dedicarion to science for being willing to test if both slime toxins could work on borers and they do not. Im sorry I couldnt make the shuttle I wanted to really fuck up a ling for my hate of lings. I wanted to stun/ mimic/ ad.slime toxin it so I could me it loyal to me and then tell it to fuck up the station.
>>135982326
>Update
This is why we need proper mining that is difficult, challenging and less stupidly rewarding from a single trip so we can remove Assistants as a job.
DINDU NUFFINS GO FUCKING WORK ON THE ROID!
>>135982984
>subjecting miners to greytiding shits
Please no.
>>135982326
You don't have to be an antag to do any of those.
You just risk getting valided when you do.
Just accept that there will be people goofing around in this game.
Is there any relation between what kind of item a singulo eats and it's growth or does it just count number of eaten items?
>>135982326
Life of a unrobust security officer.
>>135983106
>They then greytide as miner and get banned for it.
Shitters get a free pass as assistants because it's "Le ebin griff job" if they want to do that then they can fuck off to Hippie.
>>135982593
Sorry if you were Will, that air flow just knocked me down and killed my effort. I didnt want to escape as a slime because vent crawl is bugged for slimes, thanks celt.
>>135983240
I sorted them all our right and proper no worries.
Just annoying
>>135983413
thats the job man. you keep the retards in check so everyone else can play.
>when sentenced to perma, instead of regular jail, the prisoners are sent on a shuttle in sec to a small asteroid
>there, they are given a regular space suit and beginner mining gear
>prisoners are given chemical implants full of poison, and are forced to keep suit sensors on at all times
>tracking implants too, just in case
>if the suit sensors disappear, the chemical implant is activated
>if the prisoner can procure $10000 in minerals, they are free to go, tracking implant and chemical implant still inside of them
Discuss
>>135983707
TG has something similar to that
$10000 is way too low. That's like half of a single outing for an experienced miner.
>>135983707
Sounds good to me.
Should do this to everyone instead of banning them imo , only truly sadistic bastards would put up with it
>>135982984
I have seen the horrors of sending a 'dindu' to work the mines
>Working as QM, got 5 miners, 3 techs, and a diona running crates
>Detective carts in the clown in cuffs, saying he's to be exiled to the roid
>No skin off my back
>Regular updates from the miners start dropping off one by one
>One of the usually more talkative miners comes back, dripping in blood, walks through the lobby and back to the storage area
>10 minutes, nothing but silence over supply comms
>Have to man desk by myself, order comes in
>Go to the shuttle to unload crates, miner walks on, now wearing one of the techs IDs
>'Need any help?'
>I'm fucked if I answer, fucked if I don't because door delay would mean no outrunning what's coming
>Get a chloral autoinjector to the neck, taken through to the mining roid, dumped in a whole heap of the corpses of supply in the mining station engineering area as I am become husk
Detective, you sent a ling to my asteroid, and didn't even give him a working exile implantAlthough admittedly exile implants have been broken for quite a while
>>135983852
To be fair the mining economy needs fixed.
Ores need to be harder to procure, a LOT harder.
>>135983707
I like it, I would provide a better motivation for perma brigging people for crimes, sec is too lenient with their punishments I feel a lot of the time.
>>135982984
>>135983302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g-nniO1WN4
More ADHD TG mining shit isn't the answer. If you can't handle three assistants without sperging out either play another job or port Hippie's brig cells so handling one guy doesn't take ten minutes.
She is not my girlfriend
REEEEEEEEEE
>>135983707
i gave this idea to a security officer as a borer the other dayhe ended up spacing the clown asking him for 20 diamonds when he gets backold criminology studies suggest that the enforced labor is a great tool to resocialize a criminal and i try to do this kind of things when i rarely play securitybecause experimenting with real humans is pretty much against the law now
>>135983707
>implying I'm going to be a good little goyboy and do wots of hawd work for da company cos I done a bad
>implying I'm not going to scarper the millisecond you give me the chance
>implying anyone is going to bother with this silly shit when perma as-is is way easier to manage and more efficient by comparison
Show me on the doll where Sawbones touched you
>>135983982
Mining needs fixing or changing in general
>Make it so that ores can't be seen without pinging the mining scanner, this makes it actually useful beyond seeing what is and isn't gibtonite at range
>To account for this, have a mining meson alternate that acts as though the mining scanner is on at all times for the wearerYes I'm aware other servers use this function, and I kinda like it
>Different densities of rock, so you would have to path round them if you don't have an appropriate drill
>More cavern nonsense, rather than just the odd monster here and there, have pools of liquid plasma, different forms of glowshroom that do different things (Act as a torch when held, contain basic medicine, or contain a fair amount of nutriment)
>Larger monsters that can't be caught with a lazarus capsule, like that mega-goliath thing from a few months back
ss13 Sec storys?
>be me
>Hos (Or sec commander, I prefer Sec commander)
> half way into the round shit picks up
>":S OH GOD HELP, BLACK MONSERS."
>fuckinggodno.png
>begin calling in sec, already know whats going down.
>2 people turn up. even though we started with 5.
>begin gearing them up, more chatter coming in about the xenomorphs.
>Red sec level.
>we leave sec, walking to the bridge. Tac gear on. Lethal rounds baby.
>the entire floor is purple.
>server has 70+ people in it.
>3 of us.
> cont in a minute.
>>135984493
The easiest way to stop that shitposting is to ignore it
>>135984493
nah but she's the only one who still likes you
how does it feel to know that you're the only one to blame for losing everyone elses friendship
>>135984812That other guy in the last thread was right though
You know the one.
>>135984924
that's not something to be proud of you retard
>>135985082
If you say so, fuckboy.
It's late anyhow, I should sleep.
>>135983707
You can find shit what are they called, something implants in a locker in the Gateway room. I meant to fix them so they worked again but I couldn't figure out what was wrong with them.
Anyway they do exactly what you describe. They prevent a player from leaving a z level
>>135984619
>cont part 2
>we begin moving as one, Fuck going solo.
>We hear nothing, no comms, no anything.
>:c"Hello? Who's alive?"
>CE. Thank god it's that guy who's alive.
>We set up a mission to get this guy, we need him to power up the console for emergency evac.
>we move left side bridge, still no sign of the ayy lmaos.
>Since i'm Hos, i get the cool guns ofc, and the biggest.
>tell these guys to calm their shit, and guard this entrance, and scream if shit happens, I'm going in guys.
>get the CE after about 5 minutes. Still no ayy lmaos.
>Leave to grab the sec guards.
>They're gone.
>whymustyoudothis.potato.
>give the CE my 1911 i stole from the detective cus it's cool.
>we begin moving to the bridge, and we're begining to set up the console.
>I shit you not the entire station was purple.
>at excatly the time we get this console up, about 3 xenos burst from the ONE vent in there.
>Firing off a few rounds, they smash every singe fucking light hitting about two of them, but not killing.
>It's black.
>We turn our pda lights on.
>7 xenos surround us.
>in less than .00005 seconds we're firing rounds off like it's nothing, the xenos refuse to fight back.
>we're carving through this shit like clockwork.
>cont soon.
>>135984615
>More cavern nonsense
The monster bullshit is easily the worst thing about mining.
>>135985224
Agreed, mining should have more hazards though, geological things like gibtonite.
I don't know how you'd go about coding it though, monsters are the easy way to give mining some challenge.
>>135985216
>as we begin pushing to move to the Evac shuttle, we only have the light of our PDAs, so it's dark af currently.
>we pass medical wing, and we decide we can cut through matinence because it's narrower and we can get shots off without them dodging.
>we move into the maint tunnel, and it looks like we're home free.
>they set up in the evac lounge.
>70+ players, all xenos.
>fuck.
>we did not survive. but we did take about 5 of them.
>>135985374
I think what mining really needs
is morem i n e r a l s
>>135984615
> different densities of rock
yes, fuck yes
diamonds only spawning at the inner circle and you need a jackhammer for that
silver and uranium (for the jackhammer) are found in the middle layer and you need a mining drill for that
remove the jackhammer from vendors
> different forms of glowshroom for different caves
great to know what kind of cave you are getting into, but looks like hell to code the caves
> larger OH FUCK monsters
really good thing to have, you need a challenge once you can fuck up one monster while you have two goliaths, two hivelords and a basilisk trying to kill you and making it out alive like nothing, a challenge in the diamond zone would be great
>>135985374
something like a cave in or lava? radioactive uranium to mine?
>>135985374A LANDSLIDE HAS OCURRED
>>135985374
>monsters are the easy way to give mining some challenge.
you say that like it's a bad thing
we needspace sharksto put fear in the miners
>>135985561
Yeah it does
>>135985595
Cave in wouldn't make sense on an asteroid, but pockets of melt would. Radioactivity would also be good, if we got radioactivity to be recoded to not be shit.
Maybe pressurized gas or other fluid
Tons of shit you could do
>>135984604
It's either "work" or "die of fucking toxins poisoning"
Your choice
BAY
DRILLS
WHEN
Seriously, those things are fucking cool. Imagine how much it could be expanded on, too. With... stuff, and things. I dunno, I'm not an ideas person.
I am getting pretty tired of Shiggy and Julia's constant "We aren't a couple" bullshit. No one cares you two are just a meme and example of the shittest in the community. Stop posting as yourselves in the thread and go back to chocking on each others dick.
>>135986081
i'm quite a fan of it
it's hilarious watching them try and deny it
>>135985561
yeah because plasteel and plasma glass is such a success.
>Instead of perma prisoners are sent to the roid
>Cannot leave
>Slowly dying due to constant toxins
>Have to buy medicine which is really expensive out of money they earn
>On top of this they have to save up 15000 credits to buy freedom
fixed?
>>135985942
I'd rather die trying to find donk pockets than feed into your fucking domination fetish but hey, that's just me. Maybe you'll convince one of the other queers to play along.
>>135986052
I'd like some automated drilling equipment desu
>want to cause stealthy chaos
>AI goes loud 5 minutes in
O-Ok
>malf AI locks me into a brig cell
>lockdown guarantees no escape
>Decide to spam my pda on the camera to annoy it while it tries to murder the entire crew
>receive 24 hour ban for it
>>135986710
They made a second AI, the jig was up soon enough.
>>135984604
![01dbdbf7ab[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/1jSAuqx.png "01dbdbf7ab[1].png")
>>135986734
It's not annoying it makes AI basically unplayable which is what we said. Funny you posted a laughing reaction image because you were clearly a salty bitch.
>Malf AI picks me to borg with a factory
>I am a shitty borg
>try my best to do what the AI says
>fuck up all the time
>get disabled a few times
>all modules broken
>keep seeing the prompts that someone is talking
>I know the AI is giving me orders
>no idea what they are
>futile attempts to use the borg factory
And then AI won.
Sand was competent enough without me I guess.
>>135986990
>salty
I was laughing pretty hard, especially since you can just minimize the popup
>>135987089
Sure you were bud. Go play AI sometime when someone is spamming your camera.
>>135985871
Radiation needs a rework on many levels
>How it's protected from - Rather than rad protection working as 'chance you will not be hit out of 100', be a power divider, so you can still take radiation damage, but say you're in a rad suit the amount you would receive would be negligible
>Radiation needs to not mount up as quickly, but also not go away so quickly, as right now anti-rad drugs are completely useless, as by the time you've been given anti-toxins the radiation has gone anyway, maybe have a 'temporary' and a 'permanent' counter
>temporary radiation ticks down fast, but has an increased toxin effect on the body
>'permanent' radiation doesn't tick down quite as fast, but will steadily rot your insides if you don't take anti-rad treatment to purge it from your system
>Rather than radiation sources being 'Everything around this local area is fuck', have it actually radiate outwards from the source, with reduced efficiency through air, and even moreso through walls and reinforced walls
>Radstorms - rather than have it as 'All areas that aren't maint are fuck', have it so that it just makes space-tiles that are in an immediate vicinity of a not-space tile become a radiation emitter, or maybe have it as an actual 'radiation cloud' that travels through the station from a certain direction
>Radiation counters - we may have halogen counters on our PDAs, but by the time the UIs actually refreshed your down on the deck like a retarded fish. Have them be toggleable, and start emitting an alarm sound akin to a geiger counter when radiation is above normal levels
>>135987207
I have, hence why I know what to do when it happens.
>>135987207
Kill yourself ban fag and l2p. If it makes it unplayable obviously you shouldn't be ai stupid fag
>>135987437
I can post reaction images too.
>mfw you're still banned
I don't think Serwind should be admin, considering they have tried to erp with people before they were admin.
>>135987815
>mfw people think banning does anything
It only matters for fags who have to play the same name every time.
>implying I'm not playing now :^)
>>135987815
>thinking a 24 hour ban is a big deal
>>135987884
>you will never seduce Shiggy and make him stop chasing waifus to end the waifu age
>>135987815
>this is one of our fucking admins
wew goes in all fields
>>135987815
>>135988191
gotcha covered
wew
>>135988071
You don't even have to do that. From what I read in the thread the past couple days. All you have to do is be a confirmed girl, and he will leave his wife for you. Even if you don't want that he will do it! WOW
>>135987815
>admin uses >mfw you're still banned as a response
Jesus serwind how childish are you
>>135987815
>mfw I started playing space base with friends more and less with /vg/ because of fags like this
EDIT: used a random photo haha hope it fits
>>135986990
>Makes guy unable to play the game because locked down
>But nu-uh don't get in the way of antags
What a shit admin
>>135988071
Shiggy is literally incapable of staying with one (1) woman, ever. He'll just try and use you up and leave you like he does with every other waifu he's ever had.
>>135985374
just port goon mining
>>135988873
You do mean men, right? You don't actually believe he has been with mostly women on the Internet do you ?
>>135988353
>confirmed girl
Lmao, you have to have a pulse and be older than 12. Daily reminder he hadn't even heard the voice of or seen the person he obsessed over to the point of his fiancee leaving him. And that person didn't even like Shiggy, kek.
>>135982326
Honestly, if the assistant gets it, you and theh eads deserve to be executed for failing your job to protect the station
Purge, robocop the AI then execute the assistants for their capital crimes
Put the clown in the gibber
Don't play officer if you aren't gonna get shit done.
>>135989283
he just troll or unrobust bayrapefugee
>>135982984
Then fix the exile implants first and I will make a second high-risk roid.
i wish there were more rapefics
julia needs to be branded with the mark of shame
>>135982618
Xenobio is easy. Rush a chem dispenser, mix lube and polyacid. then print a saw. When the shit hits the fan rwall off the doors. Anything comes in without talking is there to kill you so just slip and pacid it from a safe distance. May want an explosion grenade in case of a potential vampire.
>>135984615
Play on goon then. It's ass
>tfw readingJory Bonzo's xenobio books
>>135985871
>ZAS launches me 50 tiles despite magboots
>So far I fall off the roid
>Lost in newspace(tm) for 2 hours cause we entered pseudo-extended
>Round ends from a late join captain stubbing his toe
>>135986081
Your shitposting about them is far more cancerous. At least I don't have to see their necking but you wont shut the fuck up in your attempt to bully them into dropping the static.
>>135990204
he's a better writer than whoever wrote the one about dana
>>135990204
I'm glad you liked them. I wrote both of them in like 30 minutes, at 2 AM when I was half-asleep
I'm proud.
>>135986382
>40 tox causes liver damage cascades which are lethal.
>>135984615
>fixing and changing
>bunch of tedious bullshit and minecraft shit to make it take longer
Only decent idea is giant monsters.
So what exactly happened that round?
>>135990521
>m-muh monsters
Spoken like someone who truely does not give a shit about mining.
Pretty sweet lighting Chaplain guy
>>135990674
>Hurrr u ned silver 2 get gold and den gold 2 get diamond den u canz git to dah enderworl XD
YOU'VE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME
DEADMIN THIS CUNT
>>135989234
Actually, I considered Shiggy a friend
I guess that's over
>>135991003
What's your opinion of Shiggy nowadays?
>>135990998
holy shit what a fucker
What has more throwforce, a spear or a tomahawk?
>>135991278
Who cares, throw rods or floortiles, they can be stacked.
>>135990857
Where did I propose anything even resembling that? I just want mining to be anything other than 'go dig out a bit of the high value asteroid field' and 'muh pokemanz'. That's literally all there is to do aside from digging up more plasma to get cash in the hopes you'll have the biggest e-peen at the end of the round.
>>135991172
I think he can go fuck himself, but that's about all. I don't hate him or anything.
He seems self-absorbed and self-pitying and I can't figure out why. I just wish that was clear from the start
>>135991278
tomahawk because of the leverage
>>135990998
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>135990998
>no ban appeal URL
I knew the admins were corrupt
>>135991518
>he can go fuck himself
Gee wiz, that's some harsh language Kam.
>>135991673
Not at all. Look at it from the positive side: He'll be getting some. Isn't that what he's here for?
>>135991673
I don't understand how you don't hate him
>>135990320
I found out about that book at like 3 or 4 am last night.
At least my name isn't stuck in the title of it to make it stand out.
>>135991993
I just don't really have a habit of hating people. I find the notion silly.
>>135991993
I don't want to hate anyone.
>>135992118
>>135992140
He deserves everything bad that happens to him
>>135992312
Why? He's an adult, he can do what he wants; I don't see how playing make-believe love warrants bad things happening to you.
>>135990204
can I get a link these somewhere?
It's gone on too long now dragonbro.
>>135992487
Forcing it on people is wrong.
>>135990665
I as the Captain (Grandpa Joe) killed the second AI that the roboticist started wheeling into the core.
I told the roboticist (The dude who was that terrible borg last round) to remove him from the core and he could be a borg but not another AI as we didn't need one. The roboticist started saying that he had asked to be an AI and so he could stay.
I reminded him I was the Captain and didn't want him as an AI, so the AI harked up at this point, said that he would protect his existence and stunned the both of us in the core.
I removed the AI from the core and lasered him to death because the roboticist wasn't taking him away to be a borg and the prick had just stunned me. Didn't think to card him, didn't know I could card him and then check laws either; just knew that there was a new AI core that I didn't authorize in a restricted area that had just proceeded to stun me and tell me it would protect its existence.
Admins decided to end the round to sort it out.
I got a job ban for 2 days from heads, which is fair.
>>135992494
They're in the library, dumbo
>>135990204
>Xenobio books
Oh dear, I play xenobio and Im scared to check those out now that I know they exist. I hope Im not in them being lewdtoo much.
>>135992803Don't worry. The first one is solo and the second has another nameless dude appear at the end.
>>135992938
>one is solo
Oh no, I work solo!Because anyone who hangs out in xenobio with me is likely a changeling who wants my ass to their face in a non lewd way.
>>135992693
If you hadn't shot up the AI then I doubt anything would have come of it but I was playing and not observing.
Let me tell you about my time on Apartment Station (probably gone now)
>Joined some server about RP in a custom apartment station
>If you were ballsy you could break into space and then bust into other peoples rooms to steal shit
>If you really wanted to powergayme you could get killed and have a metabud make you a diona
>Diona last longer in spess, so you can break into the server owners room and get all access plus guns
>Got bored because it was night and no one was online so i disconnected after beheading the owner (Who was a Tajaran)
>Came back later at day
>Not banned unsurprisingly (RPmins are usually retarded and cant into logs)
>This time with a metabud
>Server reset so I'm back to being a normal guest
>Metabud and I spend thirty minutes in the bar playing videogames
>MB finds a cow, and gets really drunk
>He announces over comms that he's selling the cow for 10 bucks to pay child support
>Detective tells him that it's NT property and he can't sell it
>Insert yakkity sax as I, my MetaBud and Detective chase eachother around
>Fistfight happens in the elevator room and the elevator goes away as soon as I open the door to jump in
>Run into space instead and die
>Detective gets cow on a shuttle to take it back to Centcomm and MB isn't having that shit
>MB does what he does best, fire extinguisher to the skull, and the detective, like a retard, tries stun revolvering him
>He misses every shot
>He doesn't fight back in the ensuing beatdown and dies
>MFW he tries justifying it in deadchat by saying his character doesn't use melee
>MB later gets beat to death by a robot.
>>135992118
>>135992140
What about disliking someone?
>>135993645
Dislike is okay, I suppose. I still don't really dislike anyone; it's kind of a waste of time since you're just making yourself unhappy for no real reason.
>>135993441
Yeah, as I said, I didn't realise you could card and then check laws; so I just skipped a step and assumed the roboticist was an antag trying to get his AI into control, since he wasn't listening to me tell him to just borg the AI instead.
>play last night
>join as chef
>clown is dragging around body in bar
>kek
>"Hey, clown, let's gib body"
>yakety sax of unrobustness
>cops come in
>pretend I was coerced into it and help up HOS like a good goyim
>cops go chase clown and leave me with body
>time for tasty burgers
>try to load body into gibber
>not working
>wtf
>PM from admin: "I wouldn't do that"
>>135993771
This is getting juicy.
Who do you dislike? We don't know who you are, so what's the worst that can happen?
>>135993285
That's the jokeMain guy (Joey. Whomp whomp) gets a huge dick in a hilarious accident and is thankful that xenobio is always empty.
>>135993884
Salem is an underrated source for image macros.
>>135993934
>I still don't really dislike anyone
>>135993884
And to add to this, it's not really a matter of not being antag.
If the cops want to arrest me for murder and gibbing someone, that's fine. In fact, that's their job. So that's my real complaint, admins are not security.
>>135994069
Everyone dislikes someone.
Who is it? Who grinds your gears? Who annoys you? Who gets under your skin?
>>135993831
If you had shat on the roboticist and demoted him for trespassing and refusal to listen then that woulda been peachy. That's the Captains right as long as it isn't pants on head retarded orders like medbay can't make medicine or engineering can only provide power with the r-ust and the r-ust only.
It's the taking a player out of the round (The AI) bit that really screwed things up I think.
>>135994165
I'm not >>135993771
>>135994080
>>135993884
>removing someone from the round entirely
>as a non-antag
>not an admin issue
>>135994241
What?
>>135994165
Kill yourself autist
>>135994258
It's a security issue for the first offense. And I was helping an antag. It'd be an admin issue if I did so repeatedly, which I do not.
I myself was removed from the game that very same round by a mishap. Dying in SS13 and dying permanently are not novel things to any player.
>>135994080
>>135993884
I waited a long time to send that message deciding what to do.
I decided ultimately I'd rather deal with this post than having to ban you for gibbing a poor dude that had just gotten murdered by a changeling right before your eyes.
It looked like you were having fun and didn't think it was wrong so the best course of action was to stop it before it went too far. And believe me, I waited until the last possible moment when you figured out the handcuffs had to be taken off 2 minutes after you started on the idea of gibbing them to message you.
>>135993934
As I said, I don't truely dislike anyone. But if I had to pick someone who I find to be slightly annoying, I'd say it's people like Shiggy and Freak; they spend more time chasing skirts than playing the game for what it is, and that's just kinda annoying to me.
>>135994331
The person you were replying to in >>135994165 is not the person you were originally having a conversation with
>>135994258
He stated that he walked into the guy already delt with BY the clown. You're being autistic by asking admin to help, you're like that stupid fag that cries RDM in Garry mod all the time. Minimal admin intervention is best.
>>135994410
I'm glad you sent a message rather than ban me, but my argument is it's a matter for security.
Security has to deal with non-antag murderers all the time. Isn't that their job?
I get you don't want me to do it, and I won't do it from now on, but still. I don't like illegal behavior being "error: do not do this."
>>135994448
Yes.
Shiggy and Freak were recent problems.
What about people before them?
>>135994165
Every Head of Security player. Every greyshirt that steals the spare roundstart. Every random shitter that breaks into chemistry to make lube or whatever the fuck they want. Science people who make a lot of guns, and get angry such as screaming "MUH MAGGGSS" and then ahelp when they get treated like a the fucking shitter they are. Head of Personnel players that don't do anything, just give themselves all access and run around with their shiny new toys. Might as well just be a fucking assistant. CARGOTIDE. DUDE BOMBS LMAO. DUDE MURDERBONE LMAO.
Why can't people play to enjoy the game?
>>135994560
It just rubs me the wrong way. It feels like it's akin to trying to rip up a floorboard with a crowbar and getting the message: "ENGINEERING ONLY"
Reminds me of not being able to fly in ARMA because I wasn't a pilot in their stupid clan.
>>135994693
I can't really think of anyone. Maybe MrC0urier and people like him. I don't have a very good memory.
>>135994560
Killing someone and gibbing someone are different. You cannot be revived from gibbing.
>>135994867
I know. You can't be revived from a lot of things, like being ignored by everyone else as the most common.
I understand why the admin did what he did, but it's a security issue.
>>135994867
But if the person was already killed by another player why can't I gib them?
>>135994816
When did you start playing SS13 friend?
> <N3X15> Test coming up as soon, limestone just doubled my bandwidth for free
>>135995012
Some time last year. I know that saying this is probably going to get at least a few people to call me a faggot.
>>135994997
You are not an antagonist. You are not supposed to remove people from the round. Cloned bodies, or bodies that cannot be revived, even with cloning, such as the ones you typically find in the morgue (with a red light on the morgue tray) are fine. Chef has morgue access for a reason.
If you are absorbed by a changeling, you can still be revived via head transplant.
>>135994474
Then answer my questions if you are them
>>135994956
Murdering someone is a security issue. Removing someone from the round because "lol im the chef I have a gibber" is an admin issue.
Kek
>>135995174
But why? I agree with the other anon in terms of , if he's already dead, it should fall under security to resolve the body situation, not an admin.
Whatever happened to that Baystation where you could get permabanned for breaking into a room or wearing a gasmask in public?
>>135994560
I absolutely agree with you and think admins should stay as far out of the round as they can.
I watched when you were at best indifferent to the clown murdering a guy. And didn't have a problem with him getting a little privacy with the body in the kitchens back room. And especially not have a problem with the clown getting dunked by security and you getting off without a second glance.
After watching the whole thing from start to finish, I knew that if I didn't say something then, I'd have to ban you afterwards for completely removing a player from the round. So I had to make a gut check decision and pick which was the better choice. Interfere with a players round and stop him short of getting himself banned, or letting the player dig his own mess maybe without realizing it was going to get him in shit and ban him.
Ultimately I agree with you though. Admins should let players resolve things IC as often as possible. It results in a better quality experience for everyone. Life isn't perfect though and sometimes like last night, we need to step in either before or after you've done something to break the server rules. You didn't kill the guy but you sure as hell were about to make sure the person (still in their body and waiting to be revived) didn't come back from their encounter with an antag.
>>135995859
>After watching the whole thing from start to finish, I knew that if I didn't say something then, I'd have to ban you afterwards for completely removing a player from the round. So I had to make a gut check decision and pick which was the better choice. Interfere with a players round and stop him short of getting himself banned, or letting the player dig his own mess maybe without realizing it was going to get him in shit and ban him.
I think that's fair, but maybe you should have also reminded security too?
Just saying I pretty much ought to have been brigged, basically. Because I was kinda playing a criminal for laughs that round until you told me to knock it off.
I understand your position and I'm glad we can talk about this reasonably. What happened happened.
>>135994046
Well now Im off to write a changeling x male fic and then put it into a book. The themes will be rape, mild TF, and tentacles. Title: Mixed biology.
>>135990998
>Not a 10^-825982895929598
Yes, deadmin he
>>135992693
Just a heads up, once they're in the AI core that's it. You can't get him out to make him a borg. That's it for him.
>>135996094
If it had been something less permanant than gibbing like a fight with the botanist that escalated into a killing blow, or you had taken a corpse from the morgue that didn't have a player in it, or anything except watching a guy kill another guy and rushing to gib him, I would have acted differently and likely not gotten involved at all except to remind people to handle things IC or not start shit if they didn't want shit.
We're not here to enforce space law and that's securities job, or to be the IAA and fire heads of staff who are incompetent, or stop dastardly chefs from turning the dead into burgers.
In that specific case last night though I knew that what you were about to do was going to break a hard rule and either way, we would have to talk. If I couldn't clearly see what was about to immediately happen then it wouldn't have been my business at all, and strictly speaking I should have just let you do what you want and dealt with the fallout. But it was late. And I hate banning nerds and taking away their spess when it's late.
newbie here, im ready to play the game, what server do i need to join?
>>135997134
http://ss13polaris.com/
This is a great server for learning to be robust.
>>135995839
it died because it had terrible administration most of players moved to polaris
>>135997134
do you know the secret handshake
>>135997134
In OP
>>135997134
4th item in the op
>>135997003
Then why ban at all instead of just mentioning it after the fact. Banning people causes more problems than not except in the case of chronic offenders anyways.
>>135997134
The one in the OP
Read the rules and you're good to go
Type out "adminhelp" in the bottom of the screen and ask questions if you have any trouble, we're always willing to help newbies
Read the wiki too if you end up liking it, you'll learn more about how to play the game
>>135994172
In the captain's defense, willingly becoming an AI without the consent of all the heads voids your right to life because you can no longer be anything but an AI and if that's a problem then there's really no other way for it to go.
>>135994560
It's in the rules that you shouldn't do that shit. If you don't like that, fuck off. The only difference between if he does and doesn't is the victim being able to get back into the round.
>>135994956
Not being cloned is a neglect issue.
Gibbering someone as a non-antag cause hurr cheff is intentional malice which is a server rule issue. If you have a problem with it then get out.
>>135997541
I was gonna teach you the handshake
>>135997437
Guy who got PM'd here. I think it was situational and the admin was lucky to have been watching.
Not always the case, so you gotta ban after the fact. But prevention is the best cure, that's what the admin is saying.
>>135997134
Friendly reminder: the rules are only guidelines, they're meant to be bent in creative ways.
>tfw as a borg I only search for valids against non-human crew
feels good
>>135997616
please teach me master
>>135997658
got it
>>135997658
hue
quit trying to get newbies banned
>>135995631
Because you are not only not taking the body to medbay or asking medbay to come pick it up for cloning but are instead expending energy to remove someone from the round for no good reason as a non-antagonist which makes it an admin issue.
assistant is the best initial work, right?
>>135998086
Yeah. You can fill in at whatever's needed
>>135998086
Assistant is utter shit, they're only good for fucking around and breaking shit for no reason
Play botanist, janitor, cargo tech, any of those low-intensity jobs
>>135998086
Cargo Technician is.
The people who play those are usually people who'd want to be assistants, anyway, so some of them will sometimes lend you some robust tips or the ins and outs of other jobs.
>>135998202
Stay the fuck away from medical and security if you're new.
>>135997724
>Non-human harming humans
>Shock a door
>Turn it off
>Drag them in
>Pingspam as I crush them to death
Good times
>>135998316
Oh, and all you gotta do is push crates, make deliveries, or order (appropriate (inappropriate if you don't give a fuck and want the round the be interesting for you or others)) items on the console.
It's pretty easy.
You even get stylish shorts and yellow hat.
>>135998316
School of hard knocks best school
>>135998316
As an extension to this, seriously just ask for help if you need it. Once we're through our powergamer routine it's a better use of our time than anything else
Why is the server laggy as balls again I thought you fixed all this
>>135998772
Too many people cause you wont stop shilling it on /v/ and reddit.
>>135997437
It's tricky. If the changeling hadn't just gotten vaporized then I'd be interfering with his round way too much. In fact, I was interfering with his round by saying anything at all and really weighed my options. That's a huge no no. Half of all deadmin requests feel like they're about just that. Given that the antag was down and out forever, and the person in question wasn't their target, I intervened before I had to.
But outside the specific context of what happened last night -
I """""""warn""""""" 1-2 people a day that what they're doings bad shit that will lead to trouble. It's just a conversation, I don't add a note or give them a warning. I give an actual warning or a ban every 3-4 days. I wasn't watching when it happened, or they have had warnings in the past, or it was significantly fucked up that there's no whitewashing it and it being a lesson learned not to do again.
Most admins follow this. Out of the 100-150 individual players that come here every day, there's usually 1 warning or 1 ban per day. Less than 1% of the players get into trabble. But being a game that is as crazy as this, players more often than that fuck up somehow and we're there to make sure it doesn't happen again. Maybe they're new or just returning and only need a reminder? Or maybe it's a guy that has 45 notes about being a shithead and the only thing left to do is permabannu.
There's no one size fits all solution and our job is to make sure everyone follows the agreed upon rules to the best of their ability, not collect banvalids or be lazy fucks that do nothing while george melon griffs you.
>>135998863
>75 people
Oh jesus christ why
>>135998772
The z-levels used to be 250x250. They're now 500x500.
We're also 74 players connected.
>>135999096
Did they add anything to it?
who is ramon newbern?
>>135999424
Sorta? There are vaults that can spawnnat random throughout 4 of the z-levels, I think.
>>135898845
is this actually happening
it sounds rad
how the fuck do you unequip items inside your hands
>>135999549
>ramon
>ramen
who ramen fetish here?
>>135999096
The extra Z-level space only affects startup time, it doesn't cause any lag once the game's in progress.
>>136000765
found it, im a retard
Chaplain should be able to force shades back into their bodies. It's pretty shit that if some jackass decides to wear a happiest mask in medbay you are removed from the round
>go to medical
>"you have brain damage"
>"do something about it"
>ignores me
Well thanks.
>>136000934
that's why wearing a happiest mask in medbay makes you valid
>>136000883
It also affects snow map generation;_;
>Fire retardant
>prevents you from catching flames
>gives brain damage
Best idea yes or yes?
>>136001063
I thought it made me antag.
There needs to be more ways to become antags if you want to antag.
Mini antags like TG when?
>>136001620
have you tried praying for antag?
>>136001620
I like goon's "Miscreant" and "Job Objectives" system
Certain players are tasked with performing annoying tasks in order to piss off crew members and get themselves killed
All players get an objective based on their job (Keep chemistry clean, steal the clown's clothes, etc)
>>135981868
Pomf you damn shill.
We highpop now you /v/irgin son of a bitch
how much of goon features was ported?
>>136001620
Nope, it doesn't make you antag. However, it does encourage medbay to decapitate you and space the head
>>136001063
Wearing the mask anywhere makes you valid.
>>135984615
>Delay diamond rush
All that'll do is piss off RnD and Robos and deny them effective anti-antag equipment
>>135985374
HOW ABOUT YOU USE THE /TG/ SMELTER CONSOLE
>>136002515
>m-muh validhuntan toolz
Can we just make Science something other than 'press button for free validhunting tools' now? Maybe that'll scare away all the 'free gunz lmao' shitters.
>join as IAA
>walk around drinking, smoking and doing nothing
>suddenly Captain's trial
>takes forever to finish, end up demoting the Captain to Clown as punishment
>Captain keeps being retarded, HoS tasks Huey and i with asking CentComm for a way to get a new captain
>Centcomm tells us to make New Guy (who was literally a first-round player) the Captain
>get excited as fuck at making a new player's round great by press ganging him into Captaincy
>shuttle called
>can't find him anywhere
>
So much wasted potential. You were a cool IAA, Huey.
What a round
>>136002972
You too
That was a good round, mainly because I got a bunch of people toread my book.
>vamp enthralls security
>"go arrest this random person"
>okay
>vamp doesn't order anyone to go break out the lethal weapons and go on a spree
>no idea where vamp master went
>no idea how to help him escape
>he dies somehow
>roundstart detective because i wanted to chill and bitch at people
>end up having to put in effort
that feel
>have a Phazon armed with a Diamond Drill and Ultra AC 2
>repair module, tesla relay
>all access ID
>about to recall the shuttle
>vampire comes in and enthralls me
>pulls me away from my all access ID and Phazon
>able to do literally nothing in the shuttle instead of the massacre that could've been
Nice one vamp.
>3 phazons phazing in the shuttle
>all that bang bang bang
>vampires, giant spiders and enthralls
best round in a while
>>136002696
>science getting materials to make anything to help other departments should take longer because fuck you mining ins't autistic enough for me!
>>136002972
He was in medbay kinda wandering around. That would have been entertaining if he hadn't gone braindead right after the fax naming him the Captain in his first round ever (before he was given the news)
>Spend the round in maint trying to figure out ghetto chemistry
>Get killed by a vamp on the shuttle but Vamp kill me
>Get shaded by happiest mask
>Kill vamp with borg help
Greentext denied
>>136003248
Mining should actually be a meaningful task.
What ought to happen is relocate science near cargo so they can have easy access to miners, just like the kitchen is right next to botany.
That or miners can teleport resources to science and engineering.
>>136003248
>mining's quality should be overlooked entirely and should continue being nothing more than a boring middleman for science
plus, the only thing science ever makes for other departments is trauma kits for medbay, even when they do get extra materials for fancy shit
>crab swings by mechanics
>let it use my shit without no issue
>it leaves a nanoprint clusterbang schematic loaded in the genfab
>mfw it splits into like 7 flashbangs
How the hell can I get me some of that more often
>>136003593
There's a single clusterbang in a lockbox on the east side of the goonecode satellite.
>>135998901
>tfw years after the notes, your notes history blows minor conflicts out of proportion when you're a faggot to a faggot who damn well knows they shouldn't be doing what they did.
Feels bad man
Mai Pai here
I've been on my BEST behavior
what can I do to be better?
>>136003593
I think one of those clusterbangs somehow short-circuited my Ripley
And they can be printed from the Protolathe, but they come in lockboxes
>>136003430
>what is telescience
Miner's fault for not yelling over comms "GPS name is this, port it over".
>>136003757
Learn some proper fucking grammar you shit. If you did that you'd be a 10/10 waifu.Just kidding! You will always be a trash whore.
>>135999096
Wait what? I thought we were only upsized to like 266 cause when he tried double it blew up the serb speed.
>>136001059
Walk to the fridge and eat 5u alkysine. We got shit to do.
>>136003943
>we got shit to do
Like help prevent a security officer from getting enthralled by a vampire?
Oh wait. You didn't do that.
>average hippie skeleton shitter
>>136003748
We take time between notes into consideration we aren't robots. If you haven't had a note in a year then that's totally different than a guy that has 4 notes in 4 days.
>>136003757
Honestly, nothing other than being on your best behavior for years longer that everyone who remembers the bad time dies of anger overdose.
>>136004034
I wasn't there. But bitching when all you had to do was get alk from the fridge or rotate two windows and make it which frees the staff up for something that actually could use skill is a bit silly.
>>135983205
Oh, okay, I'll make sure to tell the admin that next time I harmbaton a shitter to death for breaking the three strikes rule.
>>136004728
>killing as a sec guard without cap's or HoS's permission
YOU'RE OUT OF LINE
YOU'RE A LOOSE CANON
>>136004835
It's a guideline bruh. You don't want to stick to yours, why should I?
