>EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS
>EOV Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
https://mega.nz/#!SghiWI6J!SyUwZs2X9oLHP-rfmVvF_j0QjeI1lA2HSrU4C6qs0eY (Nico stream)
>EO2U Grimoire Collection
http://pastebin.com/uTt9sWvf
>EO2U Recipe + Advertisement
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bh2wEBRjhpqPpTfZA5jIclHpE1ZXHzYtUeoS7nQO4jM/edit#gid=37367097
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>>134828307
>>135151787
>lewd OP
Careful. As much as necromoe being cute, you might just trigger someone.
>>135151878
It made sure the image was not R18. It should be fine.
>>135152435
Not as cute as Ricky
In EO3, does it matter who initiates the combo?
Like, the cross slash, if I initiate it with a gladiator, will it do more damage than if I initiated it with a zodiac?
And the damage is based on everyone who participates?
>>135139409
>sovereigns
>>135151878
Even better
Which EO game is the best and why?
>>135157506
4 and because it was my first.
>>135157506
>thumbnailMine might be wrong as well
>>135157556
this is exactly what I was going to post2u as a close second because I came to the general during the release and had fun
>>135153834
pls respond
also this game seems a bit easy to break, a team of 5 farmers can get so much money through foraging
>>135153834
It's been some time since I played III, but I'm pretty sure the damage depended on the character you used. I definitely remember that buffs and charges could improve the damage from things like Lucky Hammer.
>>135158782
>a team of 5 farmers can get so much money through foraging
It's like that in every game that's not IV. Things cost a shitton of money in III, though.
Does the EO5 Nico Stream have what each class does (and subbed)? I'm wondering if the Necro and Hound are gonna be 6th slot characters.
>>135159716
Summons get their own type of new slot and its not the 6th.
>>135159836
Ooh that's cool. I guess I'll download the stream later. thanks.
>>135159909
Just watch the youtube video of the stream
>>135158864
hmm thank you
what classes should be on the front row in EO3? Gladiator, Hoplite, Monk and maybe Prince?
>>135160792
G, H, and P are all good on the front. Monk only belongs up there if you're using them to attack.
>>135159836
We haven't seen more than 2 summons at a time, right? It looks like there could be more space up there, but I wonder if that's the max.
>>135160792
There's also shogun and bucanneer if you run with swords.
And arbalist in the case of front mortar
>>135161134
Should you use an arbalist with front mortar unless you have a hoplite to baby it?
>>135161183
Or a P/H. They're not hopelessly squishy, but it's a good idea to have some kind of defense.
Quick, is the story in Untold 2 as ridiculously shit and boring as in Untold 1? Should I just go classic mode?
>>135161065
Considering EVERYTHING that necromancer does requires a Ghost. I wouldn't be surprised if we could have up to at least 3 and max 5 summons up.
>>135162954
It falls apart at the end.
For classic mode, it's contradictory and the whole Ginnungagap part nonsensical.
>>135162954
It stays fun until around after 3rd stratum. After that it feel like everything becomes a bit more forced. But I still enjoyed it.
>>135162954
Classic gives you everything Story has, except for Fafnir. So make your decision based on which classes you feel like using.
>>135162954
It's better than EO1U story mode but not by much.
>>135152435
How do I Yggdrasil core in 2U? Story Mode party, lvl 60. Can't take an Armageddon.
>>135166167
Rush it down. When you take down both irae and odium, set up for as long as you need and then go all out (even if he revives those irae, as long as he doesn't put up the mental barrier you can damage the core). Don't be shy to use the offensive breaks when the counter gets to 1, it's not like you'll get to a second force boost.
And leave Bertrand's force boost untouched, just in case that isn't enough and you need to use his force.
Playing EO2U in classic mode. Can i just skip Guningagap? It's boring, the design is awful, monsters are meh, music is bad
>>135166996
Fuck off Teachfag
>>135167295
To the guy from last night that wanted to use Google's all to translate EO stuff: Watch out, the app is mostly shit and more often than not will fail to recognize all the characters unless they're huge and black with a white background.
>>135168250
*app
Whoops.
>>135157506
EO1 because it was my first and it was literally nine years ago so it's as embedded into my nostalgia as any childhood game would be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6C9hM6Daos
But actually EO3 is probably the best
>>135166996
It's totally optional in Classic Mode. But actually I liked Ginnungagap more than the rest of the game. Especially with the FM synth music on. It felt like a EO Wizardry crossover or something.
>>135166996
>It's boring, the design is awful, monsters are meh, music is bad
mmmm... okay?
>>135090473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WW0GEotp2M
This will always be my favorite EO song. It's sad, bittersweet, but has that slight uplifting hopeful turn towards the end. A lot of people skip over it for songs like cherry tree bridge or whatever but for me it's an underappreciated gem. It was my favorite part of my EO1 playthrough when my redhead Landsknecht girl decided she had to become stronger to protect all her comrades, so I sent her solo down into the dungeon, and she wandered on that one giant wide open endless wasteland floor for days, overcoming all the trials and finally coming back worn, dusty, and brimming with power.
>>135170879
I love that song and the 2nd Stratum song.
>>135170879
>my redhead Landsknecht girl decided she had to become stronger to protect all her comrades, so I sent her solo down into the dungeon, and she wandered on that one giant wide open endless wasteland floor for days
Oh, like that other landsknecht from that quest which died alone for being foolish enought o do that?
>>135172409
Some survive.. some fall.. the Labyrinth shall judge the resolve of those with the courage and strength to brave her depths.
>>135172409
That loser ran axes
fuck me
>>135174783
>>135151787
Is that really a proper attire for a young lady to wear in the labyrinth?
>>135174783
FIGHT FOR GLORY
Anyways, were there even that many FOEs on that floor?
>>135175041
It's fine, the boots offer enough protection against whatever she can step on.
Wait a minute...
>>135176770
>tin-can instead of autist girl
You have a problem with meat magus, you teachfag?
>>135176770
I don't have a slowpoke pic saved so have this instead
>>135177109
But autist girl has nothing.
>>135177145
>>135176770
>>135177265
Great, now I have to listen to that song again.
>>135170879
I like it a lot but this one is still my favorite to relax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxCm2JcKug
>>135177245
He's talking about the autistic loli from Story mode.
>>135177245
>>135177245
u wot m8?
>>135177245
Why is she so lewd?
>>135178260
She knows how to use those tubeson youwith no lube
>>135178526
Tell me more.
How are your adventures in the labyrinth going today, /eog/?
I just beatRen and Tlachtga.
Post you guilds, if you want to.
Wait wait.. so EO5 has 4 different races? And each race has 4 different portraits per class?
>>135179347
Except there's only one race for each class.
>>135179427
Oh, damn. So the classes are divided between the races? Guess I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up.
>try EOU story mode
>it nonchalantly spoils the twist within the first half hour
Fucking why? Wasn't the story for bringing newcomers to the series? Why would they purposefully do that to new players? The worst part is that the game feels like it still wants to to be surprised when you reach the fifth stratum and the huge reveal about that certain character.
>>135180858
Wants you to be surprised*
My bad.
I don't understand elemental attacks, in EO3, Breakfire Fist is both strike and fire elements? So it hits for effective in both weaknesses? And Blitzritter is both pierce and thunder?
>>135180858
It only spoils the twist if you've already played EO1.
>>135176770
In addition, the Eyepatch Buccaneer has a Raiho on his eyepatch if you look closely at the official art.
>>135180858
>spoils the twist
Only a retard would expect the same twist twice. This time, the twist is something else.
>>135181149
No, it doesn't, becausemodern/slightly more advanced technology than today is seen as ancient technology in old ruins, and Ontario still exists but is now a monarchy. Anyone with a brain can piece together what this means. On story mode, that stuff is presented at the beginning for world building purposes so players just come to accept that as part of the world. At the same time, it's still presented as a surprise in the fifth stratum for some reason.
>>135181484
Yes it does. Newcomers that choose story mode won't know about the obvious twist of the original, they're just gonna get told about a different story, presented in a different way, because, holy shit man, that's the whole point of story mode!!! who would have guessed, right?
Stop being a retard thinking everyone knows all about the series they're just getting into.
>>135181484
I guess every character in Fire Emblem is from Italy then.retard
>>135180858
Because this time they had something else to stand on other than this shitty twist.
Plus...
>>135181484
Even with Ontario there was no firm evidence to claim it was the same world. Specially since absolutely nobody in the game other than the two people who were alive back then had the faintest idea of what the world was like a thousand years ago.
Moreover, was it REALLY supposed to be a twist in EOU? Ricky already knew how it would look so there was no surprise to her. The other ones knew nothing, so they would react in exactly the same way to that as they would do to some rainbow-colored cyber-dungeon or the hallways of Laputa.
This isn't the Planet of the Apes. There's no outsider here that later learns he wasn't such other than the player himself, which is rendered null because this time there's another story to tell.
>やるしかねぇな
>>135183063
translate it weeb
>>135183178
"Looks like I have no choice", roughly.
Imagine it in Nakata Jouji's voice, and you have an EO5 livestream meme.
>>135181017
If you use an attack with two or more elements, the game will only use the element the enemy's weakest to for damage calculations. If you use Breakfire against an enemy that's weak to strike and immune to fire, the enemy will be weak to the attack.
![[DameDesuYo] Dimension W - 09 (1280x720 10bit AAC) [09412DC5].mkv_snapshot_18.14_[2016.03.12_22.05.49].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vKVagnC.jpg "[DameDesuYo] Dimension W - 09 (1280x720 10bit AAC) [09412DC5].mkv_snapshot_18.14_[2016.03.12_22.05.49].jpg")
>>135183364
I swear I keep hearing this guy's voice instead of Nakata's.
How do I fix my ears?
>>135183364
>tfw law-abiding, game-buying Americans and Europeans won't get Nakata lolis
Are wildlings even good? Summons cost so much TP
>>135183649
Does Atlus not do japanese vocals for their english versions these days? Man, to hell with that.
>>135183680
Yes, they're great
>>135183680
Only for primal drums. Their summons are a waste of the sixth slot.
>>135183727
I don't think they've done that.
>>135183727
They almost never have. In general, the only times when they had Japanese audio is when the game was so niche and the audio licensing fees were so cheap that they went Japanese audio-only, like with Tears to Tiara and Dungeon Travelers 2.
The Odin Sphere remake has it, but presumably because the original game did. Arena had it and dual text, but it was region locked because it came out two weeks after the Japanese version. Ultimax had dual audio in battle because of online, but that was it.
Atlus recently did a poll on dual audio that got so many responses they closed it in like four hours, but we don't know the results, nor have we gotten any games yet that the data could influence.
>there are people in this thread, right now, whose first game was eo4
how fucking casuals
>>135184820
>There are people in this thread whose first dungeon crawler wasn't Wizardry.
>>135178995
Just realized, with EOV's color customization it's going to be near impossible to share authentic images of our parties without straight up screenshotting our 3DS. Maybe some enterprizing jap developer could make a webapp for this kind of thing.
>>135183680
You get that TP back with dismiss though. They are awesome but need loads of skill points to become so.
>>135178995
Front row Troub?
>>135184820
The first game that I can remember playing was Blaster Master, not sure what that has to do with EO though.
>>135184820
>There are people trying to pass themselves off IN THIS VERY THREAD as hardcore players, despite never 100%-ing a game
>There are people in this thread who use floor jumping and ariadne threads
>>135184993
MS Paint's always there to save the day.
>>135184820
So fucking what?my first one was eo1, but seriously, so fucking what?
>>135185135
>projecting this hard
how cute, an eo4 babby just got mad
>>135185165
>getting triggered by shitposters
It was a skin thickness test and you failed.
>>135185217
First game was I, mate. It was also my first RPG.
>>135184820
if i met someone whose first game ever was eo4 i'd be more impressed than anything desu
>>135184820
EO4 made me aware that the series existed, but i started with the DS games
>>135184820
I live in a small town. Game stores here never stock the more niche games. Only reason I even found out about EO was the demo for IV on the eshop.
>>135185135
>There are people in this thread who use floor jumping and ariadne threads
Yeah, true explorers use warp wires.
>>135184820
>>135185762
True explorersgive their warp wires to squirrels
>>135185019
I like doing a bit of extra damage when my party is low on TP.
>>135185864
>>135185135
>there are people who look up conditional drops
>there are people who use pre-made parties
>>135185986
B..b..but they use bows? Frontline medic has long been a thing, as has putting a fragile duder up front. But Troubador just seems such a weird choice. Power to you I guess though. Hope you're enjoying the game's best bit.
>>135183063
>>135183364
>>135183649
It's good to see so much Nakata appreciation.
>>135185864
i wonder who's behind this post
>>135184820
Beats the slew of EO3 pirates
>>135186240
Troubs can use swords, but there's usually not much reason to give them one unless it raises TEC or TP by a significant amount, and Staves are usually better for that.
Are the books in EO3 unique items? Or can I get an unlimited amount of them to get all the stats to 99 later on?
>>135187590
You can farm FOEs for them.
>>135187590
Unlimited, they are FOE drops
>>135187691
>>135187676
I imagine it's a good reason to save these folmaldehydes, then?
>>135187810
Nah, you'll get a Limit skill later that guarantees all enemy drops if you kill an enemy with it.
>>135186240
They can use staves and swords too, you know. And when it come to real damage I use them for elemental attacks since the rest of my party does fine without them.
I understand it's not the most effective party layout in the world, but it's not like he dies more than the others.
>>135186268I just recently started paying attention to Japanese VOs. What's a good show with Nakata in it?
>>135188585
>VO's
Here's a tip: I personally don't give a shit about what word you use, but if you want to talk about Japanese voice actors on /a/ or Japanese centric threads in general, call them Seiyuu or else people will yell at you.
>>135188446
Oh, and yes, Lost Shinjuku is great.
>>135188585
Machine-doll wa Kizutsukunai
>>135188864
Does it really get that bad? Seiyuu easily translates to voice actor. Is it just because people don't want to be even remotely associated with VAs in other languages?
>>135189083
In /a/ or some weeb thread, maybe. Don't use that seiyuu shit here.
>>135189156
>He says, in an anime inspired DRPG thread
>>135189083
That's partially the reason, yeah.
There's also that many people interested in seiyuu watch and listen to radio shows, streams and the like which are evidently in Japanese and thus will hear "seiyuu" as the profession over and over again.
>>135189156
>or some weeb thread
Good thing we're in one.
>>135189418
I really fucking hate Japan and their fucking seiyuu culture.
EOV has more people interested there just because the voices, not because the gameplay.
Damn you Japs.
>>135189794
They're like actors to them, I don't see the issue
>>135189794
>EOV has more people interested there just because the voices, not because the gameplay
It's pretty much the new feature. Everything else we know for now is pretty much the standard of the series.
You could argue that there's also class ultraspecialization and race skills, but those have been discussed to hell and back as well with what very little we have.
Moreover, voices are the only feature in danger of suffering Atlus USA's bullshit.
>>135181484
>"Ontario"
>"Oh, a joke about Canada, haha okay"Maybe if she'd said she was from "a city built on the ruins of an ancient province known as Ontario" it would have ruined the real twist, but as it is, traveling through the ruins of Shinjuku was still shocking.Untold wasn't my first EO game, so I barely registered the presence of ancient technology. I'll grant that it might have been more obvious to someone mulling over the past civilization while they made references to places like Ontario.
Cute
>>135188585
Hellsing Ultimate. You also get Wakamoto in that as a villain, and they both ham it up tremendously.
He is the priest in Fate/Stay Night and Zero, as well as various other Type-Moon works.
In Tamayura he plays the photoshop owner, and the restaurant owner in Working!!
You can look through these for more info.
http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Joji-Nakata
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1030
Why do people say EO3 is the best?
>EOIII was on the seas
>EOIV was in the skies
What will be EOV's travelling method?
>>135198073
speaking of EO3, I just understood that there are multiple endings to it
which ending order is it best to get? what does promising Olympia to keep the secret change?
>>135198286
Segways.
>>135198286
Caravan.
>>135198286Teleportation
>>135199030Teleportation panels
>>135198286
>What will be EOV's travelling method?
Ellipsis
>>135198290
pls respond, is there any difference in the endings? aside from story? is one harder than the others?
>>135200247
True ending has a harder final story bossfight. Which is mandatory for filling the monstrous codex & item conpendium.
Also, each ending (excluding true ending) unlocks a new class.
Personally I'd say to play any ending, followed by the other ending followed by the true ending.
>>135200247
>>135200509
>Also, each ending (excluding true ending) unlocks a new class.
If you go for the true end first you will unlock theyggdroidclass.
>>135200669
No you won't. You can ally with either Armoroad or The Deep City and still get the true ending.
>>135200509
ah, think I will go for the ending that gives me the shogun class then, cause it seems fun
btw you can start a ng+ file to get the other endings, right? do you keep your characters at their levels?
>>135200948
Yes you do. In the later games you can choose what to bring over, I'm not sure if you can in EO3. Keep in mind though, that quests can only be completed once between all games. Once a quest is completed it's gone for good - or until you start an entirely new game.
>>135201157
>that quests can only be completed once between all games
why would this be a problem, though?
I'm guessing that in following playthroughs you can just rush through all floors real quick to get the other endings?
>>135201309
Yes, but you have to reopen all shortcuts.
>>135201309
Yeah, you can do. It can just make raising a new party a pain when you don't have the extra XP coming in through quest completion.
>>135201309
Wanting to have more than one party. Wanting to experience the full game more than once.
i'm playing untold 2 and there's no more quests i can accept and the only one i have going is the princess piece which i can't turn in
someone told me to beat ur child and there will be more quests, but i did that and there's nothing
what do?
>>135202687
Talk to the people in the bar, I think you have to do that even after you get the last piece necessary for Princess.
>>135202817
oh, i forgot about that
was that the last quest? the only ones i see are the dlc stuff
>>135203350
Look on your guild card, and see if you have the medal for finishing all quests. Have you done the dragon quests?
>>135203660
yeah, that was the last one
finally i am done with story mode
>>135203983
>mfw stormed through storymode and stopped as soon as NG+ became avaliable
>mfw the gallery isn't complete
I'd better still be able to get a 100% to show up on my guild card.
>>135199138Floor jump
>>135204503
>I'd better still be able to get a 100% to show up on my guild card.
EOU1 or EOU2? if you are talking about the first one then HAHAA
>>135157506
EO4 because the world feels so grand and the character building system is intuitive & allows for more interesting and balanced builds than in 1-3. Also best music
2 is my second favorite though
>>135157506
Persona Q because fusions.
>>135206579
Shitposting is against the rules
>>135206723
Fusions are fun.
>>135206723
Teach is fun
>>135206990
I want to rape teach
Which subclass is good for every class in EO3?
>>135208178
REAR GUARD
Is there a collection of Chloe's voice clips anywhere? I was hoping to find something on youtube, but there's nothing.
>>135208916
Skun, is that you?
Holy fuck. I'm replaying EO4 and I forgot how absolute shit Snipers were
>>135209230
>>135209064I will convince you that she is the best character, dammit
>>135209230
Snipers are pretty great if you know how to use them. Its easy to call a class shit when you use it the wrong way. Medics are so shit (at dps), Arcanists are so shit (at healing), Imperials are so shit (at consistent dps).
>>135210058
First boss fight. Spam arm bind until it runs out of TP and don't land it once.
Meanwhile an arcanist can land binds on multiple enemies with more consistency
>>135210208
>needing to bind arms to win
Git gud, my first try was tough too, then I realised poison and three nightseekers fuck him up REAL good.
>>135210553
Is there anything that 3 of the most broken class doesn't fuck up real good?
>>135210553
>Snipers are great if you know how to use them
>Just don't use them; use 3 Nightseekers instead
Thanks?
>>135210694
Three imperials aren't that great without good support against the big bug.
>>135210696
Binds work with good consistency if you level them up good enough.
>>135209230
>>135210208
Snipers are fantastic Link chasers, plus they have some handy non-typed damage. I never got much use out of mine for binds, though.
>>135210208
>>135210553
Wait, you can lose against that boss?
What's the objectively STRONGEST party on EOIV?
>>135212000
Five dancer/bushis.
>>135211017
>Imperials the most broken
I still don't get why you guys love this meme so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wAoMK6Yz28
>>135210208
>binds
there's your mistakw
>>135212083
For chase shenanigans I presume? I have a linkshark and a chase dancer and it's bonkers.
>>135212315
I like the beat dance brigade to make the bug superboss easy peasy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyKrrG2sB5Y
realistically, how long do you think we'll have to wait after EOV comes out in japan?
i might be being to naive but maybe in time for the holidays?
>>135214065
February something 2017
>>135214065
It'll be out in america in january.
I have a Hoplite, Buccaneer, Prince, Zodiac and Wildling
Which subclass should I set for each of them?
>>135214065
>>135214284
Actually im retracting that, it'll be out in april due to voice acting taking up a lot of time. January if no voice acting, pril if voice acting.
What would be the absolute coolest thing you could add to etrian odysseythat doesn't have to do with mechanics/gameplay at allexclusively stuff related to the story or setting that you receive in conversational dialogues
>>135214480
everybody as ninja
>>135214480
Off the top of my head:
Hoplite/Zodiac or Ninja
Don't know about Bucc, never used one.
Prince/Monk (other way around is much better)
Zodiac/Ninja
Wilding...
Wilding is the worst class, not only in EO3, but in the entire series.
What boss attack archetype do you hate dealing with the most?
>it's a boss that stands ready on a turn just as you set up all your chases and counters every attack
FUCK
>>135214913
dating sim :3c
>>135215136
Dating sim is gameplay
bad gamplay
>>135214913
Hidden quests that no one would ever think to look for that give you OP gear, or alternatively, an extremely long questline that give you an IOU at the end, where the IOU is an alternative new game plus that gives a different storyline altogether.
Alternatively >>135215136
>>135215041
Isn't it Ninja/Zodiac the good combo instead of the other way around?
>>135215087
>Bosses that get free moves
Expect more of that shit in EOV, along with field effects.
>>135215289
If you make your back row Z/N N/Z Z/N you get free nukes.
>>135215087
This is only really bad if it doesn't fall into some kind of set pattern (ie. Every fifth turn).
Mirror shield, or whatever it's called makes the Blizzard Dragon a complete piece of shit to fight.
>>135215348
Field effects are fine. I don't understand why people hate them so much
>>135214913
Kazoo mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ww5hUMN8KI
>>135215468
but what do you achieve by subclassing a Zodiac with ninja?
>>135214480
Your team makeup is.. messed up because the 6th slot is critical for a few things.
Wildling is the worst class in the series and the brave few who do use it, generally go Wildling/Ninja, only to Otori the Tiger for massive counter attacks. If you continue down the Wildling path it will be used as a Drumbot for random battles and the tiger/otori combo is heavy on the TP until late/mid game.
Hoplite/Ninja shines, double line guards, double element guards, etc. but the whole 6th slot thing.
Prince/Monk, however Monk/Prince is stronger with healing.
Zodiac is also fairly weak, but with Zodiac/Bucc for quicker Limits, you can put out great burst damage with the right element Limit and Ether Charge.
Buccaneer is.. I dunno I never used them.
>having a little trouble with flame demon
>go to look up a guide
>people are beating it at level 25~
>party is level 40
fuck
>>135215685
Cloning your Zodiac mainly. Dodging is nice too.
>>135215486
>Field effects are fine. I don't understand why people hate them so much
Because Arachne's was pretty much a shitty "ress not allowed"
Dragoon looks cool.
He might be the first gun using class I put in my party.
>>135215685
One Ethers, the other spams meteor.
This one playthrough I had a zodiac/ninja, and a princess/zodiac. princess attack orders the zodiacs, and zodiacs went to town with free meteors. was neat but required a specific makeup
>>135215041
>>135215789
I miss when beast was the worst.
>>135215829
It has a very exploitable pattern afterall.
>>135215254
>Dating sim is gameplay
>bad gamplay
ugly and mean anon
>>135215861
I never had a problem with Arachne and I played that game through 3 times on expert
>>135216116
I always struggle with patterns and never get the elemental walls
I hate the elemental walls in principle because:
>spend 4-6 points in them
>get to next floor/stratum and it's completely useless
>>135215685
Better evasion so attacks won't dunk you as easily, a way to regain TP, Dark Ether on both rows, extra damage from Bunshin explosions with Fire/Ether Mastery and occasionally Singularity. It's worse than Ninja/Zodiac in a lot of ways, but still not the worst thing you can do with one. I've had a surprising amount of success using a Zodiac/Gladiator in the front row, Maces hit hard and adding Ice Element makes them do a surprising amount with the damage boosting passives.
>>135216330
>get to post-game
>all of them are useful
>rest
>get the new needed wall
>>135216330
You don't need more than 3 points in them before post game. And if it bothers you that much, you can always rest the character.
Since /eog/ is already taken why don't we just use /FOE/?
>>135216461
>rest one character
>you get all your points back but 2
>uneven exp
>rest all your characters
>waste of fucking time
>>135216357
Oh, and I forgot, by splitting itself Zodiac can use 2 person limits like the elemental ones by itself, hit B after selecting it for one you won't have to add another person.
>>135216627
>EOIII
>Even EXP
NEVER EVER.
>>135216581
EVEN IN SPOILERS!What's /eog/ used for?
>>135216330
I find elemental walls irritating because they make the tank archtype damn near mandatory for some boss fights, and absolutely mandatory for post game
Anything about your playstyle you suspect is peculiar?I never equip rings/accessories. Just shields/plate/boots/helms etc
>>135216581
Don't be lazy
>>135217019
I'm glad EOIII has subclasses and two ways of negating elemental attacks for that reason. It makes splitting the elemental blocks between 3 characters less redundant and allows to use the the other two for more stuff.
>>135216948eve online
>>135217332
>I never equip rings/accessories
I did that until I noticed my back row didn't need that much defense.
And even to your front row, those few extra points in defense aren't going to save you from a one-tic-kill poison
Also stopped using helms because they rarely include nice bonuses for just a little more def than gloves and boots and are much slower.
>>135218078
I usually throw a shield/helm combo on my protector if the helm has something nice like 'bash resist ^' or an elemental resistance. The speed boost from boots doesn't help a protector much since so many of their skills get priority or don't matter
If I like EO should I pick up SMT games? Strange Journey looks fun.
>>135219586
They are nothing alike.
>>135218321
Well, the tank is my one exception. They either get priority or are the slowest, plus they'll be taking hits, so there I accumulate as much defense and resistances as I can.
>>135219586
SJ suffers from EO3's problem where every couple of floors they make you drop everything and report back to town/base.
Except in SJ it's more like every floor.
>>135216828
>NG+
>fully retired at 70 team
>no need to explore the sea because NG+
>evenly scylla exploit when needed
I done it brah
I always get butthurt about how games do new game plus
>if I still have my armor and gear the game is piss easy and I get bored really fast
>if I still have my gold I just buy shitloads of shit and the game is piss easy and I get bored really fast
I just want a new game + with more quests and starting with 4 extra skill points and a few stat points or something. I hate the WEW NOW I CAN STROLL RIGHT TO ENDGAME FULL OF BOREDOM
>>135220734
The untolds have that, except for the extra quests.
>>135220734
>Now you can choose what you can carry over NG+
>butthurt
>>135221137
I want it to be like Kamidori Alchemy Meister did.
You actually get a shitload of NG+ quests and there are things you cant do in the first game that you can in the second
>>135214480
>Buccaneer
Gladiator, then max charge.
Pincushion ALL THE THINGS
ALL THE FUCKING THINGS (but only after charging)
>>135216581
As someone said a few days ago, why not /sqg/? Sekaijew no MeiQ general
>>135219586
I got into them in parallel (Persona Q being the branch that connected the two for me). Currently have Soul Hackers and played a bit of the NES original. They're not really that similar but you might like it if you like the idea of Pokemon, only the Pokemon are demons that you have to recruit instead of catch.
>EOIV
>Hall of Darkness
>The whole dolls sequence
>That lore
I was expecting a fight. I wish I had had a fight. This was so fucked up.
>>135223267
I remember something really unnerving about the dolls but I can't remember the sequence itself at all. I think an axe was involved?
... damn, I'm alone in a dark room and now I can't stop looking behind you.
>>135221514
>and there are things you cant do in the first game that you can in the second
Kind of shit since one normal run in EO can take up to 120 hours.
>>135224326
Only if you're going for 100% completion.
>>135221514
I hate it when RPGs force you to do a NG+ for completion.
It's just a shitty way to inflate the play time that doesn't bring anything actually good.
>>135224771
With Kamidori there were three routes so each run was different enough from the last to merit doing that. Also depending on how you put stats into the main costumes each run could have significantly different play
>>135223978
You return the child doll to its mother and father doll, and presumably, as a reward, they reward you with a powerful Death forged Axe for your trouble as you walk away.
The horrifying part is that if you return to inspect the doll family any time after that, it says that the doll family has been mercilessly smashed and the pieces strewn about in the corner.
>>135224949
Those are justified. Others, however, are "you must beat the game once to unlock this quest" or "you can't do this in time unless you carry over sutff into a NG+", where the locked content has absolutely no relation with the differences between runs or what you learn during the ending.
>>135225258
Well, a doll HAVING an axe specifically linked to death is scary enough.
But yeah, whatever else is lurking in that dungeon...
WHO MADE THE SOUP?
>>135225279
Kamidori had exclusive NG+ content too but it doesn't sting when you're doing it to play a second or third route though.
I get what you mean and am not disagreeing with you. I feel like it would be okay to have these in EO since it has story mode now. You can beat story (or classic) first and then have a NG+ other version with extra literally anything to help keep it fresh
>>135225489
I'm not exactly a fan of how Untold is handling this either, since you end up giving up on a complete file for one mode.
Although if it were more in line with EO3, I might be fine.
