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let's start the thread with a BO1 webm

Is BO3 dead?

>>128524301
it's dying on PC. 24 hour peak was 21,591. Release was 63k.

>>128524468
I have a sudden urge to play a CoD game again, but don't really want to buy a new one if it's already dwindling within a couple of months

are there still a fair amount of servers up for bo1? I miss that game and I would buy it on g2a or whatever if there was an ok playerbase

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Why is the Dredge so fun?

>>128524657
yes. I run the only mixed server for core. 173.199.105.71:3344 all others are either 24/7 nuketown or TDM with random maps.

Is CoD4 worth getting on PC? Looked at the server list the other day and a lot of them are 16v16 and shit, will I have any issue wanting to find a regular vanilla 6v6 or is that shit hard to come by

>>128525434
>will I have any issue wanting to find a regular vanilla 6v6 or is that shit hard to come by

the only option is either joining a low pop server and leave when it fills out, or join a promod server. They are usually 12-14 capped.

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Yet another Emblem. I really kind of enjoy this.

>>128524660
>not running fast mags on lmgs
nigger what are you doing

>>128525691
>promod
>bad

>>128526749
did i say they were bad?

>>128525434
yu are looking for promod--

how do I fix my secondary gunfighter challenge not progressing?
I'm stuck at 193/300 and it stopped registering

Everytime i go to bed the thread dies

>>128491979
Mainly Domination because its the only fun populated mode. Going for dark matter and smg alone got me from 2.4 to almost 3 now

omg did it died

Fuck I had a nice,post laid out, and never posted it. Will post when i get home

These fucking Specialist challenges are killing me

Especially Prophet and Nomad

>>128533507
Doubles? I don't envy you, anon-chan. I'm on HIVE and G-Spikes hero, which put me on suicide watch

>>128533507
Prophet was the first one I did and don't know what's hard about it.
Surely not the Scorestreaks part?

Nomad is gonna be a bitch though.

>>128534449
The double Glitch kills

>>128533761
Hive double kills seems like a fucking nightmare

Grav spikes is that "inevitable" thing, but you need to get lucky for Hive doubles

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best gun coming through

>>128535656
That's not the Gorgon

Why is the KRM such a fucking super soaker outside of hardcore mode

This thing needs a RoF buff or something to make up for all the ADS hitmarkers I'm getting at close range

>>128535881
I'm glad I'm almost done with it

I don't envy trying to get Haymaker or Brecci OHKs though

They're better than the KRM but take more shells to kill on average.

Argus was a cakewalk, though.

>>128536196

I'm actually liking the brecci more than the KRM because the fast followup 2 shot kill is way more reliable than the KRM one shot kill

At least I don't get caught with my pants down staring down an enemy across a room while pumping my airsoft shotgun, knowing I'm about to get gibbed by a hail of bullets and being unable to do anything about it

>>128536196

Wait how can the brecci and haymaker require one shot kills? Are they requiring people to play hardcore now like the Blops 2 SVU pre-patch?

>>128536328
I just double checked, it's headshots

I was mistaken, but I hadn't used a token on either of them yet so I wasn't aware.

>>128536515
Drakon in OHK despite only being on headshots in core

>>128536845

Does the headshot medal replace the one shot kill medal like it did in black ops 2? If so they literally made the same mistake twice

>>128534905
O-oh, I always think Seraph for Prophet for some reason.
Yes, they're both a bitch.

I think we're nearing the end. But don't be sad. Be proud of how far we've taken this thread. Advanced Warfare General lasted like, 3 weeks. Ghosts maybe 2 months. We've gotten into Black Ops 2 General. That said, I miss Black Ops 2. It's in a real competition with MW2 as runner up to COD4.

>>128538162
I got super salty about MW2 and stopped playing after I got my first 25 kill streak, but the match ended as soon as I pressed the clacker.

It was just sitting there in my hand as it faded to the final kill cam

>>128538162
I liked Blops2, but never had a good connection. 3 runs almost flawlessly for me, even amidst everyone freaking about 400ms pings and shit. I haven't had that, or almost anything, happen.
My problem is hit detection every now and then.

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>>128535881
it's a one hit kill just under 6m

to get a one shot at 6-8 meter all pellets have to connect which is almost impossible
after that it's always a two shot kill

i'm really not a fan of the base damage change "to make shotguns more reliable".
They could've implemented it much better or just scrap it and don't try fix what's not broken

The ADS making the shotgun spread tighter is really retarded.

Shotguns are a weird one to balance but I just think needing to ADS to make them more effective is dumb, the only thing it ultimately changes is that when you start shooting you keep twitch pressing your ADS key each time you take a shot. It doesn't change your playstyle or anything of the sort, it's just another inconvenience on top of the fact you're using a limited range weapon in a game full of railguns.

poop

Is there anywhere I can find high-res images of at least some of the available calling cards? I can't find anything. It's to the point where I'm tempted to see if I can find an xbone capture card so I can just screenshot them in-game.

>>128524639
It's plenty alive on other platforms.

>>128524660
Because 6-round burst LMG.
The one thing I miss is the AR-LMG hybrid each game had. They were never popular, but I always liked them. The HAMR was my fucking jam in Black Ops 2.

Damn, I miss Black Ops 2. Does anyone still play it on PC? Does it actually work on PC?

>>128540647
That feature was introduced in MW3 I think. I remember back in MW2, the spread was identical whether you ADS or not.

I guess they just did it to make sure ADS with a shotgun wasn't an entirely pointless action. Maybe also so that shotguns would have to abide by the same rules as all the other guns in the game. And hey, they helped balance it out by giving the shotguns fast movement speed, fast ADS time, and fast movement while ADS, even without quickdraw or stock, so that a no-attachments shotgun is a pretty solid weapon. Even in Hardcore, the semi-auto and full-auto shotguns manage to find a niche.

A shotgun class really has to be played differently than an AR class, you can't expect to just run out in the open. You gotta find a building you like and lock it down, not camping, just patrolling.

so sad on pc bo3 is a dead game unless playing shit game modes

is there anyway to get a nuketown code on pc? i wasnt given one and i just wanna play chaos ...

>>128543782
someone wrote here that you can just make a support ticket to activision saying that you did not get a nuketown code in your gamebox.

>>128544592

thanks for that anon, found this

https://support.activision.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/NUK3TOWN-Availability-in-Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-III/?l=en_US&c=Game_Title%3ACall_of_Duty_Black_Ops_III&fs=Search&pn=1

might be able to help others with the same problem

>People using the P06

Literally worse than Hitler

>>128545031
P06 is just straight up cheating on PC. With a elo sight on, it's so unfair to use i almost feel bad.

>>128542006
>>128542006
>other platforms

FPS on console feels so retarded after playing on PC, I'm not sure I'll enjoy it

Best playlist to get doubles with Sparrow?

>>128546050
hardpoint or chaos

>>128546238
Thanks bruh

>>128545110
Straight up garbage on console though, even with target assist on you're gimping yourself really badly by using it.

do i still get loss prevented if i leave a game i join in progress?

The only good weapon in this game is the xr 2.

>>128547491
yes

>>128547581
Funny, that's the only one I've tried so far that I go negative with.
I've been trying to use it to see if it's better with Rapid Fire (love the M8 with it) and so far I'm fucking hating life.

>playing tdm
>go 18-12
>entire team goes negative
>swamped by talons, wraiths, and raps all match

Dude killstreaks lmao

>>128549663
Dude everytime i get a very high scorestreaks called in (raps, GI Unit, wraith) which is very rare considering i dont get alot of killstreaks, the enemy team somehow always power cores my shit.
i dont even know.

So, what exactly counts as a "double kill" with the Sparrow?

So far ive got multiple double kill medals with it, couple triples and 1 quad, but the thing still says im have 1/3 double kills

>>128542006
>LMG AR hybrid
That would be the Dingo.

>look at lobby leaderboard
>judge people

What's a good spm for each game mode?
What's a good k/d?
Overall stats are a shit

>>128550126
I think it's 2 kills with 1 arrow.

>>128551013
TDM, you're looking at 300 being above average
Anything above 1.00 K/D means they're likely to at least keep you and your opponent's score even, and is also slightly above average.
Average K/D is about .9

Is it wrong for me to use Awareness as a way to hear enemy positions and place myself where they'll run to just so I kill them without being touched? The shit is like a always-on UAV and no one uses dead silence in regular modes

>>128554419
Dead silence is such a late unlock, that's why

It's absurd.
It's not even the most useful red perk, I'd rather have blast suppressor just so you aren't pinging yourself on the map every time you jump

>>128554419
>>128554562
>Use Awareness almost all the time
>Get into a late night match
>Nothing but high prestige players
>Perk 3 Greed on most loadouts with Blast Suppressor and Dead Silence.

>>128554562
Well since I did some knife-only classes I've learned how to go across every map without double jumping, the only time I double jump if it's a emergency or a situation where I know I can take the guy.

Dead silence is just good for countering other players like myself who hear for their opponents

like >>128554696 said the higher ranking people use Dead Silence but most of the community is braindead and doesn't use a headset.

>>128547834
>I've been trying to use it to see if it's better with Rapid Fire (love the M8 with it)
Ah, so the M8 is good, that's good to hear. I wonder if it's any good in Hardcore. The burst-fire guns are a bit weird to use in Hardcore.

Never tried Rapid Fire on any gun, does it make the burst fire ones turn full-auto? I really miss Black Ops 2's Select Fire attachment.

>>128554696
>Perk 3 Greed on most loadouts with Blast Suppressor and Dead Silence.
Now THAT is a Hardcore type of loadout. I feel naked without Engineer though.

They really ought to adjust Awareness so that it counters Dead Silence by letting you hear them slightly. Maybe it could let you hear them at the "default" level, as if neither you nor them were running those perks.

>>128555139
>They really ought to adjust Awareness so that it counters Dead Silence by letting you hear them slightly.
YES PLEASE.

I think they won't though, I bet they think Sixth Sense is enough.

>>128549663
>Seemingly constantly get matched with teams that go negative, or tend to break even with one guy that goes hugely negative and then teamkills until he gets kicked
With TDM, it almost feels like the only way to have a W/L of more than 1 is if you get 25+ kills and no more than 12 deaths every single match.

>>128553210
>TDM, you're looking at 300 being above average
I'm almost always the only person I see above 300. I'm at 355, on PS4.
Most everyone is medium 200's, tons of people around 180 even, they end up being campers with 130-180 spm and 0.8 k/d's.

I almost never see anyone with k/d's over 1.2.

>>128554419
I've been saying it here for a week now (especially for HC TDM):
>SMG (I stick with Razorback, Kuda)
>Stock
>DS (to hear them better, otherwise Engineer for Care Packages)
>Awareness
The 'Get Called A Cheating Faggot' class.

>>128555139
> I wonder if it's any good in Hardcore.
Being that that's about all I play, yes. I usually stick with it for longer-range matches, like Redwood and Infection.

>does it make the burst fire ones full-auto?
No, just makes the burst itself quicker. Not fire-rate between bursts, but the actual speed between the bullets faster.

>They really ought to adjust Awareness so that it counters Dead Silence by letting you hear them slightly.
It does, it cancels DS out as if they had normal footsteps and you weren't wearing Awareness.

>>128555270
>Forced to choose between a set of full-stealth perks and a set of high-awareness perks
>Can't take 5 tier 3 perks at once
>But if you really want to, you can have a loadout with no perks, no equipment, and a gun with 6 attachments

>>128555781
>Tier 1 is almost entirely garbage
>Tier 2 is somewhat useful
>Tier 3 doesn't have a single useless perk

>>128555270

it already does, they cancel each other out

>>128556128
No they don't. I'm the guy who was in the Dead Silence match. I couldn't hear ANYBODY.

oh fuck after 5000 kills i realized you can just keep holding r1 to burst fire and not manually once every time

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>>128555517
>Being that that's about all I play, yes.
Same. Shame we're not on the same system (xbone here), it would've been cool to party up.

>SMG (I stick with Razorback, Kuda)
>Stock
>DS (to hear them better, otherwise Engineer for Care Packages)
>Awareness
The 'Get Called A Cheating Faggot' class.
Nice. What do you spend the other 5 points on?
Kuda & Razorback are based. Weevil ain't bad either.
Stock is THE definitive Hardcore loadout accessory. Anyone without it is going to get their shit pushed in by anyone with it. I put it on everything: SMGs, ARs, shotguns, LMGs, I'd put it on the Drakon if I could get it to level 12.

>No, just makes the burst itself quicker. Not fire-rate between bursts, but the actual speed between the bullets faster.
That sounds like it would be better in Core than in Hardcore.

>It does, it cancels DS out as if they had normal footsteps and you weren't wearing Awareness.
Oh, just like I described? Fuck yeah. Good work, Treyarch.

>>128556765
I'm surprised you missed that detail, it says so in the description of every burst-fire gun.

That's another thing BO2 did better. Being able to pulse the trigger with the Chicom CQB to make it burst so fast it was basically more accurate full-auto, oh, it was glorious.

>>128557079
Its because even after i realized it i still do it manually. It feels much more precise/deadly this way.

>>128556463

yes they do, go test it out with a friend.

>>128557217
Agreed. Auto-burst doesn't even really make sense, it just creates a window of opportunity (however small) for your opponent.

>>128556463
Maybe your volume's too low?

>>128555517
Oh, one more thing: what scorestreaks do you run? UAV-Care Package-Dart for me. Dart is fantastic.

>10 remaining unlock tokens
>16 remaining desired unlocks
Looks like it's First Prestige time.

Wonder if my early-unlock-something reward should be a weapon or a perk.

>>128557639
>Dart is fantastic.
Except on Combine.

>>128556765
in some of the COD campaigns the M16 was autofire, but i had played the campaign a couple of times before i found out about that. I had just shot like it was burst.

>>128557973
Its the best on combine nigga. Very easy to get your 3 rocket kills and crash into enemies.

>>128557932
Pick a weapon or perk that unlocks after level 30.

>>128558104
Too much indoor space. Too easy for enemies to escape the missiles by just walking around.

Way too small. Honestly it's total garbage on that map and I'm amazed that you think otherwise.

>>128557932
Something at 40+ would be best.

Leveling starts to slow at 35ish

>>128558249
Maybe if you suck with it. I fly high and patrol the middle. Its exactly because its small that you can get your 2-3 kills +1 with the crash. You just need to know at what side they spawned and smartly go with it.

>>128558123
>Pick a weapon or perk that unlocks after level 30.
Well of course, but there's so many options. M8A7, L-CAR 9, Dead Silence, Engineer, Ghost. Maybe even Black Hat.

>>128555976
Never got much use out of Gung Ho, but mostly agreed, the other 5 in Tier 3 are prime choices. Can't think of a single reason to run a loadout without a tier 3 perk or two.

>>128555976

How did this even happen

Gung homo should be a Tier 2 perk or something, swap it with hardwired so you have to choose between it and tac mask

>>128558868
Really it's only Argus/Dredge/M8A7/Engineer/Dead Silence imo. The rest aren't as important.

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TOO FAR

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>>128556802
HC TDM is about all I play because none of my friends are usually on at the same time.

>What do you spend the other 5 points on?
Razorback (any smg, just example)
Rapid Fire (nothing else seems to change it and there's no kick anyway)
Stock (sometimes just stock)

Blackcell

Overclock or nothing
Fast Hands (Sometimes also Tracker)
DS/Engineer/Awareness

If there's an extra slot I just use Frags. I prefer their versatility over everything else, lethal or non.

>Rapid Fire M8
It is better for Core, but it's still better than not having it in HC, especially for long ranges or if you run into someone and hip fire.

>>128557639
>what scorestreaks do you rune?
Same, but Counter UAV, too. People tend to not shoot shit down and just run Ghost, so it's extra points, keeps your Scorestreak point cap low to restart it fast, and for those that bring up the menu to look at the map, they can't anymore.

I could probably get high Scorestreaks, but I don't want to try consistently as it would just lower the points I have every match. I like getting tons of kills when it happens, though, but less points than kills always looks like shit to me.

>25 kills 3,000 points
>28 kills 2,200 points

>>128557973
Don't forget Redwood.

>>128557932

If you don't have a favorite thing that you can't live without just take the M8, it's level 55 so you're getting the most bang for your cowadoodydollars

>>128558868
>Never got much use out of Gung Ho
Shotguns, while I don't use them, have always been great to sprint around with.
It's mainly amazing for HC, where you will get a 1 second advantage over everyone else that doesn't have it, as they can't fire immediately.

I know Fast Hands says 'fire faster after sprinting', but why a little faster when you can immediately?
I use both usually, though.

>>128558926
If I run anything from Perk 1 even, it's Flak Jacket for Hardpoint or Dom if I feel like I need it, or Overclock for Hero grinding.

I use 3/6 for Perk 2, and all but Blast Suppressor (although I think it's very useful, but prefer others more since you can run/climb everwhere instead of boosting, people are just impatient) for Tier 3.

>>128557932
How?
I had 26 left last time I prestiged.

>>128559031
>and for those that bring up the menu to look at the map
Holy shit.
Been playing HC exclusively since MW2 and I never thought of that.
I run the Dart just because it's so fun to use.

>I could probably get high Scorestreaks, but I don't want to try consistently as it would just lower the points I have every match.
I find that surviving long enough to get those streaks is rare enough that it's better to just get them from Care Packages. That said, the GI Unit is kickass.

>>128559031
>Overclock or nothing
I'm one of those fags running Ghost. You've got the Blackcell though; I'm always surprised when I encounter players running neither Ghost nor a Launcher, given how pivotal the UAV is.

Oh, and just a shot in the dark here: you use either War Machine, HIVE, or Vision Pulse, right?

Sometimes I run Scythe, just because it SHREDS scorestreaks. UAVs, Wraiths, you name it; they're scrap metal in seconds.

>>128560157
>Menu map
Yeah, I do it constantly to see where my team is and run to the opposite side of the map.
Who needs UAV's? lol

>Care Packages
I get RAPS almost every other match, especially when I have Engineer on. The drop rate on that seems to have gone down though.
The drop rate for Guardians, however, is at an all-time high as I get one every 2 Care Packages at least, I'd say 75%.

> I encounter players running neither Ghost nor a Launcher, given how pivotal the UAV is.
My friends love being on a team with me since it frees up a slot. I just like the points.

>Oh, and just a shot in the dark here: you use either War Machine, HIVE, or Vision Pulse, right?
Still grinding Hero attire, but if I were to use whatever I wanted for kills, Vision Pulse for sure. War Machine gets me kicked and I kill myself every single use, HIVE seems worthless to me. Even when I shoot it in high traffic areas, people seem to avoid them or I die as I leave that room.

>Scythe shreds
Prophets Tempest 1-shots almost every Scorestreak. I think it does shit like RAPS deploy ship in 2 shots.
Too bad it's shit in HC.

>>128559501
>Shotguns, while I don't use them, have always been great to sprint around with.
It's mainly amazing for HC, where you will get a 1 second advantage over everyone else that doesn't have it, as they can't fire immediately.
I'll have to try that on my Haymaker class. I tend to crush with that on Fringe already, but that'll let me swap Fast Hands to Hardwired or something.

>How? I had 26 left last time I prestiged.
Haven't prestiged for the first time yet, so I ended up blowing a lot of tokens testing out stuff that I ended up never using again.
Buyer's remorse:
>Gorgon
>HVC-30
>Sheiva
>Vesper
>Pharo
>205 Brecci
>Thermite
>Combat Axe
>Smoke Screen
>Tracker
>Blind Eye
>Sixth Sense

>>128561357
>Haven't prestiged for the first time yet, so I ended up blowing a lot of tokens testing out stuff that I ended up never using again.
That's what private lobbies vs bots is for.

>HVK-30
>Buyer's Remorse
Nigga, you trickin' me? That's one of the best AR's in the game with a range that lies as it 1-shots almost every time, regardless of how tiny your target is.

>Vesper
Again, wtf? Better for Core though as it melts way faster than anything else and if they're far away, just don't try for the kill and flank them.

>Tracker
Ok, now I know you're trickin' me.

>Sixth Sense
It still pings for HC, but yeah, mostly useless. Even with UAV's up, you hardly ever get to really use it.

I'd agree for the rest, all for a purely HC TDM perspective.

>>128560792
>War Machine gets me kicked and I kill myself every single use
I use it all the time and have only been kicked once. You just have to shoot carefully, and try to be aware of where teammates are. It hipfires well. Very nice for clearing a small room like that obnoxious computer room on Combine.

I end up TKing much more with frags or semtexes (and one poor sap I beaned with a flashbang) than with the War Machine.

>HIVE seems worthless to me
It's a good way to make sure every opponent is forced to spend a tier 3 perk slot on Engineer, since Hardwired doesn't protect against it. It's only any good on small maps though. I don't use it though, just because of how much I hate the people who do.
I love it when an opponent runs Rejack, it's an extra free kill.
Why the hell do so many people run Annihilator in HC? Every gun kills that fast anyway, it's a total waste.

>>128561357
Oh, I forgot, Buyer's remorse for specialists:
>Vision Pulse
>Kinetic Armor
>Active Camo

How do we fix Vision Pulse to not be such a shitty special?

>>128546238
>both dead on pc

WAKE ME UP

>>128561893
>Nigga, you trickin' me? That's one of the best AR's in the game with a range that lies as it 1-shots almost every time, regardless of how tiny your target is.
The HVK-30 is certainly a good AR, arguably one of the best, but for short-mid range I always use SMGs and for long-range I use a Dingo w/ Recon, and with the way the Stock has apparently been nerfed for ARs, the HVK's been gathering dust for a while now.
I don't play Core nearly enough to justify the Vesper. The next time I play Core I'll probably spend the whole time using the Argus, Dredge, M8, or Dingo. I already use 3 different SMGs for HC.
I tried Tracker briefly and it just didn't seem to help much, since the footprints vanish so fast.

God, why is the Gorgon so shit? It's such a good-looking LMG, but that firerate makes it unusable whether you're in Core or Hardcore.

>>128562216
>Why the hell do so many people run Annihilator in HC?
I don't get it either.

>Oh, I forgot, Buyer's remorse for specialists:
>Vision Pulse
>Kinetic Armor
>Active Camo

You can't trick me anymore.

>>128562913
>since the footprints vanish so fast.
They may have had Hardwired on. They're only out about 5 feet, otherwise it's about 20.

>>128562353
>there are scrubs on this board who don't use vision pulse
its a free wallhack you get for playing the game, AND it gives off a sound in the direction an enemy is

>>128562913
>gorgon

It's Nuketown, the gun. Play any OBJ mode on it, control the middle, and change sightlines every 2-3 kills. I can barley go on a killstreak but doing this gets me something like 30-5 every time I do it, boring but effective.

>Unlock ghost recently

How did I even play before

I never noticed just how many UAVs get shit out in a match, especially considering they need 5 kills worth of points

One more question for you before I go, Hardcore-bro: is there any point to the Knife? In the few times I've managed to get a kill with it, it didn't seem to have more range than fists or just smacking them with the gun. Movement speed, maybe?

>>128562353
>Vision Pulse: larger range
>Active Camo: make it last longer than 3 seconds
>Rejack: place marker for respawn location instead of respawning back into the crosshairs of the same enemy that just killed you
>Scythe: No spin-up before firing, OR maintain movement speed while spinning up
>HIVE: Fucking remove it from the game, goddamn it's so obnoxious
>Kinetic Armor: make it resist explosives, headshots, and low-end scorestreaks as well. Scythe, Annihilator, and War Machine are effective against scorestreaks, so there's no reason this shouldn't be as well.
Oh, and maybe make some of the campaign mode Cyber Core abilities into specialist equipment too. Some of them would be way too broken to reasonably do that of course, but a good one that comes to mind is the Martial core's gun jammer.

>>128563274
>AND it gives off a sound in the direction an enemy is
I haven't noticed this and I have Astro A50's. I hear it, but not that it's a direction. It just sounds like a ping in both ears.

>>128563424
Maybe you shouldn't have been a shitter and shot them down?

>>128563834
Wasn't an option for most of my gametime

I was using the MR6 almost exclusively because it feels right.

>>128563793
>is there any point to the Knife?
Dunno, I don't use it.
It's a guaranteed 1-hit kill over regular melees, but you also have to have it equipped. It's the same run speed as fists/pistols/smg's I believe.

I don't know why, unless you just really like it, people use knives at all. It's fun for S&D and laying around though, but I prefer playing normally still.

Have fun

>>128563260
>They may have had Hardwired on. They're only out about 5 feet, otherwise it's about 20.
Oh. I may have to give Tracker a second chance.

>You can't trick me anymore.
Look, I know you like Vision Pulse, but surely you can see the other two are useless.
>Kinetic Armor: 8 seconds of damage resistance, unless they use an explosive, or a scorestreak, or a melee attack, or they get a lucky headshot, thus amounting to maybe one prevented death if fortune smiles upon you
>Active Camo: 3 seconds of invisibility, unless you're sprinting in which case any competent player will notice you

>unlock razorback
>shoot it
>same sound as the famas from bo1
>except its not massively overpowered and i actually like it for the accuracy and slow fire rate
>forever trapped between my roles as shitty gun hipster and eternally mad about the famas

Why even live?

>>128563930
>wasn't an option
You get the XM-53 at level 1.

>MR6
Well, you've got that right. What a good pistol.
Too bad the 3-burst got nerfed to shit. Takes 2-3 bursts in HC just to kill someone from 3 feet away sometimes.

A friend of mine:
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I ended up stealing the kill

>>128564198
>Kinetic Armor
INVINCIBILITY for 8 seconds you mean. It's like Active Camo in the sense that they can still kill you but probably won't.
Just use it and either cap something or when you're going around a corner you know there are two or more people.

>Active Camo
I almost never die with it 2beehonest

>>128564615
Oh, I mean I was pretty much exclusively running a class with the MR6 alone. I only switched to the class with the launcher when they had something threatening in the air.

>>128564416
I gave up on BO1 multiplayer pretty quick. Some of the worst weapon balance I've ever seen, and of course there was Second Chance -- and this is coming from one of the faggots who ran Martyrdom in MW2.

>>128564615
>INVINCIBILITY for 8 seconds you mean
Not sure how well it works in Core, but in HC I have found that they can actually break the armor with a modest amount of gunfire. It helps a little bit, but that duration is just so short.

>>128564732
>I was pretty much exclusively running a class with the MR6 alone
My nigga, I have one of those too.

>>128565019
>running one MR6
>not running two
Blasting shitters with dualies is really fun

One thing that MW3 deserves credit for: the death mic. Hearing whoever you just killed lose their shit is pretty satisfying, and it'll also let you know if their teammates have been alerted to your location.

>>128564732
>implying death

>>128565019
> in HC I have found that they can actually break the armor with a modest amount of gunfire.
I've noticed this, too. I still think it's a glitch or maybe your meter runs out faster when you're being shot at, like weapons when you use them.
I don't watch the meter when I'm getting shot at though, so I don't know.

>>128565279
I liked the maps

>>128565279
that's also in BO3

>>128565279
Then it was ruined with fucking party chat.
CoD is quiet as fuck now. I just want to shit talk with my party to another full party in S&D between rounds, dammit!

>>128565019
kinetic armor does not grant invincibility but just big amounts of body damage reduction

>>128565367
I know, it's just that MW3 introduced it to the series. Much like BO2 introduced the Pick-10 system, and IIRC it's been in every title since.

>>128564615
>INVINCIBILITY
No. It will absorb maybe 3-5 bullets before deactivating. It's good for winning exactly ONE encounter before it depletes, and that's onyl if they don't headshot you.

It's miserably underpowered.

>>128565019
It's even worse on Core because ttk is worse so they survive long enough to feed you more bullets. In HC you can at least get the drop on peop[le and maybe kill 2-3 because of fast ttk. In HC, Kinetic Armor makes you 150-200% more durable. In core it's more like 50%.

>>128544592
>>128543782
confirmed works. My GMG order was missing the code. Got the dlc half a day after submitting request.

>>128565216
i cant use dual wields because only one speaker has sound when you fire either weapon. super distracting.

>>128565638
Ghosts had a great perk system.
AW had pick 13

Is there any info on how the 3 year development cycle for BO3 happened? It really doesn't feel like it needed that long, and for fucks sake why do we only have 10 maps on launch and 90% of matches are played on 3-4 maps in particular? ONE zombies map on launch (the giant doesn't count and should have been included anyway) and that shit excuse for a campaign? Seriously whats going wrong right now?

>No tac knife for pistols

Shit game

>>128565894
1 year was used to make the game

2 years were spent on playing ping pong

>>128565894
>and 90% of matches are played on 3-4 maps in particular
This is a tangent, but you've got another thing coming if you expect me to play Exodus, Havoc, or Metro.

>>128564757
>all full auto assault rifles kill in 3 to 4 shots
>but two of them shoot 40% faster :^)

I really wasn't expecting your character to have their limbs torn off like they were.
AW had the arm getting cut off, but having the robots doing it in this one really sold me on the campaign.

Plus I got a boner as the female MC was crying out in pain

>>128566083
Agreed, but I like Exodus. I miss it in the rotation though.

I like Combine and vote for it every time, and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>128566187
40-30 and 35-25 damage models

5 more damage balances the firerate, just think of the headshots :^)

>>128564757
Black Ops 1 was great but you basically had two automatic assault rifles with a bunch of reskins and two SMG variants with various reskins

Why the hell is everyone voting for combine all the time? I mean it's not a bad map but playing on it all the time, no matter what playlist I play at what time, is so fucking annoying.

300 spm tdm to be above average?

I have 270, 1.70 kd ratio (keeps going up), nearly at top in every game.

I really liked the customization we had with ghosts, why did they have to do this shitty specialist thing and even worse with such shitty customization?

>>128567273
because the community is full of mouthbreathing retards that love to get contact with the enemy 5 seconds after spawning

treyarch is producing worse maps with every release fuck nuketown in particular

>>128567429
red AK74 with rapid fire all day erry day

>>128567763
because assfaggots are so popular now they thought it'd be a great idea to implement some ideas into cod

>>128558996
>Haymaker with ext mag + fast mags + rapid fire
How shit can one player be?
Long Barrel is a must for shotguns of course, but those other 3 combined just scream "I hate aiming"

>>128567273
Speaking of that, why are there no more open maps? In every single map, no matter where you go, you always have at least 3 more corners in view. I miss the more wide and open maps of previous games.

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>>128567763
The worst part is the lack of distinction between teams.
Plus the fact that player names show up rarely when you aim at them for some reason.

BO1 with perk 1 dictating your general look was great.

>>128568130
Because sniper rifles are cancer.


Small maps are awful but I'd rather have that than getting a new hole in my head every time I leave spawn from some cunt in a bush across the map

>>128567763
>>128567975
I like that the specialists sometimes say things to each other. Adds a bit more life to the game.
>Ruin and Battery standing in the spawn at match start
>Ruin says "Good luck out there, kid" or something like that
>Battery says "Right back at ya, ground-pounder"
I love it.

Oh, and finally campaign has a nameless protag with a face and a voice. That's pretty uncommon in vidya in general; usually it's either nameless-faceless-voiceless, or a regular named character.

>>128568404
wow I wish the console version had that much FoV

>>128568607
So, whats the explanation for both team having the same specialists?

Isn't it weird that they are shooting at themselves?

>>128568404
>Peek 1 changed the way you looked
WHAT
H
A
T

>>128568130
the treyarch devs hate sniper rifles with a passion and think that SMGs should be the best option at any range but extreme distances

>>128568843
desu hardcore was probably an afterthought when they made specialists. It would probably take too much effort to make distinct differences between the CDP and Black Ops forces

>>128568919
...

That is literally where Treyarch got the idea for specialists.

If you used the Ghost perk, your guy would wear a ghillie suit, and if you had the explosive damage shit, you wore a bomb defuse outfit or some shit

>>128568843
The fanfiction theory is that it's all a Simulation.
I guess it makes sense due to Nuketown ending scene but other than that I don't see it
The best explanation is that they're lazy.

>>128568843
Multiplayer is a simulation.
Most of the 9 specialists are actually dead irl and this is just a copy of their brain. Play the campaign and read the back of the specialist cards to figure out more.

Or just wait for papa driftor to make opinionanted videos on the matter.

>>128569246
i mean Glitch description says that Prophet hacks the simulation. And Infection and nuketown are obvious simulations.

>>128569630
>Watching Driftor

bruh

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>>128569630
>driftor

Any chance that the next cod by infinity ward will be better than blops3?

>>128569442
;____;

>>128569882
It has to be the MW collection if they wish to continue making CoD.

Ghosts turned CoD into a bigger joke than it has ever been. I dont think Activision likes that

>>128570118
What was so bad about ghosts? I kinda liked it.

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>>128570190
It was kinda panned by both critics and the general fanbase.


I thought it was okay, but it could have been a lot better with smaller maps and a bit higher ttk

>>128569630
>Multiplayer is a simulation.
This. It's not even ambiguous. Prophet is literally hacking reality to use Glitch. There's also a Battery+Reaper dialogue bit where Battery speculates somebody is controlling Reaper. Always felt kinda self aware and meta.

>>128570339
Didn't the glitch ability originally belong to the Reaper?

>>128570301
Small maps/low ttk is what's killing CoD and turning it into an arena shooter though. I'm not asking for Battlefield, I'll just go play that if i want, but CoD has a certain charm to it but year after year it just keeps losing it.

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>>128570945
I dont know, but the size of some maps combined with a slow movement speed and instant ttk made Ghosts extremely annoying for me to play. I dont want to spend 5 minutes just running around the map only to be killed by an LMG camper from some bush

Maps like pic related were total cancer

>>128570945
>killing CoD and turning it into an arena shooter
The more CoD chases the arena shooter genre, the better. That influence is exactly why BO3 is so great. It'll be the best CoD game by far if they manage to improve on the maps situation with less of this stale THREE LANE E-SPORTS garbage and a little more wall running and dash sliding support. Maybe some moving/dynamic stage elements like other games had. Didn't BO1 have several maps like that?

>>128570945
I love casual arena shooters
>there will never be another timesplitters game

>>128571263
good lord that map looks terrifying.

>>128571592
Eh, I get to enjoyment for Arena shooters even though I don't particularity like them, the alpha for DOOM was a sobering experience on what modern Arena shooters are turning into though, just a mish-mash of shitty ideas from different FPS games played out on increasingly worse maps.

>>128563834
I'm using the standard xbone over the head ones and I can pinpoint people exactly
also, can someone please answer this >>128528583

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someone please join i'm getting lonely.

173.199.105.71:3344

>>128568404
i preferred mw2 since your primary weapon decided it.
it was useful since you could easily determine if a guy used sniper because of the ghillie suit

>>128572904
BO1 it was your first perk, oddly enough

>>128568436
>Small maps are awful but I'd rather have that than getting a new hole in my head every time I leave spawn from some cunt in a bush across the map
This was the one thing that made Ghosts multiplayer utterly unplayable.

It got to a point where, after another crushing loss, the other team mocked me for NOT camping. And it's true, all of them just lay prone in different spots with trophy systems & other placed equipment laying around them. TDM matches *always* had their timers run out before the score limit was reached. Fuck it was so awful.

>>128568919
Ghost gave you a hideous ghillie suit
Hardline gave you a Vietnam-era helmet & uniform
Lightweight I think gave you a bandana
Can't remember how Scavenger made you look
Guess what your guy wore if you went with Flak Jacket. Guess.

I used to fucking despise CoD Ghosts, went back and played it, and after AW, and BLOPS3 Which I thought were better, I actually find myself appreciating Ghosts. At the very least I could say it had the goat class creation, so much room for variety.

>>128569630
>XboxAhoy doesn't do weapon guides any more
>You will never again hear that soothing voice tell you about the best perks & attachments to use with your rifle of choice
At least he still does other videos

What kind of easy things can i do in tdm to increase exp?

DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?
IT'S MAP TIER LIST TIME MUTHAFUGGAS

>TOP TIER
Breach
Fringe
Stronghold

>WOULD BE TOP IF IT WASN'T SO OVER-PLAYED TIER
Combine

>GOOD TIER
Evac
Hunted
Infection

>REALLY HIT-AND-MISS TIER
Redwood

>BAD TIER
Aquarium
Havoc

>WHO-VOTED-FOR-THIS-SHIT TIER
Exodus
Metro

>>128567517
355 spm, 2.4 k/d, 8k+ TDM kills here.
Always on top for sure.

Anyone PS4? I don't care what your stats are. My PSN is ragincajunnugz.

>>128568703
I just want a FoV slider. I hated the FoV on Destiny, it was like my camera was 30 feet in front of me but I had the longest arms in the world since I could still see my gun.

>Playing Metro
>Train cometh
>Duck to avoid it, the guy I'm shooting gets creamed
>Train passes, I back up
>The doors close
>I'm stuck in a box
>Someone throws a cooked grenade in
>Can't grab it before boom
>Don't die because flak jacket
>Stuck in box rest of game
Fug

>>128575354
kill people

>>128575354
Play a different gametype, like CTF or Kill Confirmed
Use some new weapons/specialists so you get all those bonuses for the early unlocks for them
Use equipment more often so you have a chance at getting all those juicy challenges
Use low-end scorestreaks for the bonuses you get from them
Stay to the end for the match completion bonus, and so you don't rack up losses from leaving early
Play with friends so you don't have to deal with a bunch of shitters feeding kills & scorestreaks to the other team
Check through your challenges progress to see if there's anything that's close to being completed that you can focus on for the resulting XP reward

>>128575354
Just Exp? Blackcell, empx2/engineer(spam them everywhere, too), uav/cp/cuav.

>>128576102
Does the Black Hat still let you take control of lethal equipment, or does it just destroy it?

I loved that shit in BO2, it was Engineer & Black Hat all day every day.

>>128575671
Always looking for people to play tdm on ps4. Sending friend request.

>>128575589
aquarium is one of my favories. just camp with your xr 2 and finish off retards with headshots in the middle

>>128576359
>dutch
The connection worse with overseas players in your party?

>>128576752
I usually play with english players and no problems.

>>128575589
>Top tier
Combine
Evac
Stronghold

>Would be top
Fringe

>Good
Breach
Hunted
Redwoord

>Hit-and-miss
Infection

>Bad tier
Aquarium
Nuketown

>Who voted for this shit
Exodus
Havoc
Metro

>>128576324
You keep it, but that's all is good for. I'd rather just shoot and get the points than use the slots.

>>128576836
Right on.

>>128576856
Exodus could have been good. Its hilarious how literally nobody ever goes to that left side of the map.

>>128575589
Great tier
>Fringe
>Stronghold
>Evac
>Combine
Good tier
>Hunted
>Aquarium
>Metro
Meh tier
>Redwood
>Infection
Literally never played it because it hasn't been in matchmaking since I started playing
>Exodus


I'm furious about Exodus. Patch it and put it back in already. Jesus fuck.

>>128577298
Play bots on Exodus.

vesper a shit

>>128577298
Oh! and Havoc can be Great tier I guess. I like that map.

>>128575589
>Always vote
Evac
Stronghold
Infection

>bad maps
fringe
aquarium
metro (spawns and waterside ruined it)
exodus

>vote if i feel like i haven't been facefucked by shotguns enough
combine

>vote over combine
everything else

Glitch double kills should be changed to fast kills after Glitching

>think the reaper scythe is shit
>use it like 2 times and never after
>watch streamer rape with it
>try again

>realize you can zoom in and the gun readies to shoot
>was trigging my button the whole time before, so it was close to shooting

fuck

>>128547834
Long barrel makes it god tier.

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>>128581612
>ribbit

>>128552638
No it's two rapid kills with the Sparrow I didn't have much trouble with it.

>>128554926
Do you boost slide? Because it pings when you slide as well.

>>128581612
>something that has been in the game since fucking 2003
>ruins it
???

>>128583684
>flak jacket
other than that, fast hands/ gung ho/ quickdraw fucking rapes

fucking spawns are really getting on my nerves in tdm, fucking niggers spawn literally 2 meters behind you

>>128583684
>ninche

>>128572904
I miss the wall banging in MW2, Blops has like no where to wallbang people, fmj is near useless

>>128568057
>Long Barrel is a must for shotguns of course

excuse me sir

>>128584526
>ebr fmj down the corridor on terminal in 3rd person

Never have I received more fanmail than when that was a thing.

so are they just gona make every cod jump packs now?

>>128584526
>mfw 16 year old kiddie with my 14 year old brother
>play mw2
>look up youtube videos of wallbangs
>try out a wallbang in that plane where everyone camps
>actually get final killcam
>brother is shocked

good times

>>128526141
That is really, really good. I saw it and looks like it wasn't even made in an emblem editor at first glace.

>>128583684
That is a pretty miserably inaccurate list

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>mfw kid gets yelled at by his mom on mic for having missing homework assignments
>Tells her he's doing his best in that class
>Says why aren't you working on it now
>Becomes a shouting match between them
>He goes 5-27
Never get tired of this happening. Worth the loss to hear

>>128585184
>>128585564
>terminal
Shit I loved that map too much
>mfw Harrier and Pavlow broing it up in the sky and forcing everyone to stay inside with me and my Spas-12
Fuck if only it was back compatible

>2x key weekend

oh fuck

>>128523104
Double cryptokey drop rate this weekend.
https://twitter.com/Treyarch/status/687770069800239105

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>>128588116
>mfw working all weekend

>>128588116
>>128588074
wait does 7th gen not get cryptokeys at all?

>>128588291
I bet they can't handle some of the camos

Jesus fucking christ, im thoroughly enjoying Blops 3, but the piece of shit crashes like a motherfucker on ps4

>inb4 console babby, my toaster cant even handle fucking Artificial academy

Got 330 keys right now. Im going to aim for atleast 600 after this weekend.

>>128589435
It's frustratingly frequent. I get it at least once a session. So fucking annoying when it happens while I'm playing zombies.

>>128589435
I haven't had even one crash on PS4. Literally.

Might wanna clean the dust out and fix ventilation.

>>128588116

:^)

u hero

>Tfw shieve supressed on hardcore

STOP PUTTING ME IN ONGOING GAMES

god fuck

>>128583684

Engineer isn't a niche counter, it's for raping enemy equipment and streaks and then rerolling your UAV for a RAPS at the start of the next round

The only reason everyone doesn't use engineer is because sound whoring and hung hoe share a perk slot, it's the best it's ever been because engineer/sitrep has never highlighted HCXDs and UAVs before

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>it's a firebreak
>with a meme weapon

>Getting an assist
Of all the things I get pissed off about when playing this game, this is probably the biggest

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I just found a neat little trickbug on fringe.
If you go over by the pickup truck over by where the second hardpoint location (literally the truck is in the middle of it) and go prone in the back of the truck you hide right inside it. Not sure if you can get killed by explosives but im sure as hell youre immune to bullet damage.

>>128599126
Also if i see you doing this shit in my games you're a horrible human being and deserve to be high fived.

BO3 is fucking terrible.

>>128599679
no u

Why do you specifically think so, chum?

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>>128599307
>>128599126
Problem. after about a minute you get kicked for inactivity

>>128600326
Sorry you're so far behind

>>128600326
But those are piss easy to get.

>>128600061
I just don't think cod is on a very good path. I just wanted some casual fun like the older games, I got a lackluster weapon selection with boring perks and map design akin to a MOBA.

>>128601996
the 8 medals i got are propably the only times i died during the two 50 kill challenges

>>128583684
>Engineer is a niche counter
>Hard Wired is a wasted slot
>Gung Ho & Fast Hands are performance-enhancing
WEW
E
W

LAD
A
D

Hard Wired does the most out of any Perk, protecting you from all kinds of fuck-yous enemies will try to throw, and allows you to just sprint through Trip Mines and Shock Charges not giving a fuck.

Engineer helps you avoid that equipment too, but also reveals those fucking obnoxious HIVE nests, and will basically give you a heads-up warning of where enemies have set up camp, and then you can combine it with Black Hat to kill them with their own equipment. It also warns you of approaching HC-XDs. Seriously, it's crazy good. I can't believe they made it even better than it was in BO2.

Ghost is crucial to any stealth class, alongside the "sound whore" Dead Silence & Blast Suppressor. Overclock is good if you chose a Specialist weapon that's actually useful.

Gung Ho is only good if you intend to be shooting while sprinting, which is cool and all, but plenty of loadouts will see no use of that. It's not bad, it's just not amazing.

Fast Hands is really only for correcting your own failures to react appropriately if you're not using Gung Ho, unless for some reason you are very dependent on faster weapon switching.

Flak Jacket and Tac Mask are for Hardpoint players, and if you seriously consider those good but Hard Wired a waste, I don't know what the fuck you're smoking.

>>128600326
Wish I could see how those camos looked so I can find out if they're even worth grinding for. 100 headshots per gun, yeah fucking right. Diamond pistols in BO2 took I think around 100 hours to do.

>>128585054
Why not?
Longer OHK range son. If not Long Barrel, the only worthwhile attachments left are Fast Mags and Stock.
>No need for Quickdraw, the ADS time is already really low
>Laser Sight is okay I guess but you're better off with Stock
>Reflex/any non-iron sights on a shotgun, top lel
>Silencer on a shotgun, tippest toppest lel
>Rapid Fire on a shotgun, shit, I don't know how that would work
>Extended Mag would be good, but Fast Mags serves the same purpose & is more versatile

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>>128603812
>Longer OHK range son.
why did i even bother to make make this image >>128538942

Laser Sight and ADS is pointless because pellets are not the main source of damage
Long Barrel is pointless on the KRM/Argus and only somewhat worth it on the brecci/haymaker
Silencer isn't as bad as you'd think for the brecci/haymaker
fast & ext. mag is really all you need on a shotgun, for the Argus it's a sight, quickdraw and stock

>>128602795
kek

>>128538942
>>128604534
What the fuck
What the F U C K
I can see what they were going for, but goddamn that makes no sense. It does make the shotguns more consistent, but if I'm reading this right, it sure devalues precise shots.

I assume Core has 100 health for players. How much health do they have in Hardcore? I'm wondering if Long Barrel even has a niche there; that extra 2-3 meters is not too shabby if you've got one loadout point spare.

>>128607093
100 for normal, 30 for hardcore

>>128537002
It's OHKs for the Drakon, if that's what you mean. Piss easy in Hardcore, just go to Infection and play the sightlines surrounding that big floating rock. It's an OHK even to the foot. I'm shit at the game, but playing Infection with the Drakon I've got 30+ kills in HCTDM.

For the shotguns it's headshots.

Yes I'm replying 14 hours later, sue me.

>>128607543
Thanks. Comparing that with the shotgun graph, that explains the occasional 2HKs with the Haymaker.

Holy shit, that Argus. I know what I'm using for occasional romps in Core.

>join a late objective game
>we're so far behind it's literally impossible to fucking win
>quit game
>HURR YOU GET A LOSS IF YOU LEAVE BUT IF YOU STAY AND FEED THEM KILLS AND WASTE YOUR TIME YOU WONT GET A LOSS!
My W/L ratio is fucked because of this

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>>128612305
JUST DO IT

>tfw you will never ever join a Ground War game