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/vg/ guilds:
US:
<RIP in Peace> @ Sargeras (Alliance)
<No Fun Allowed> @ Illidan (Horde)

EU:
<Wrench> @ Shattered Halls (Horde)

/wowg/ battletag friends list:
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(Rarely used or updated)

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Old thread: >>128419282
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no idea what im doing team
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Man, I feel like I have to roll on a RP server just to get any sense of community.
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>>128482176
>no discord

Based OP
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Daily reminder that if the raid leader doesn't have the ilvl himself that he's asking for his raid - DO NOT join that raid
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xrd for the worst fucking reputation and faction in the entire game
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>Not on the alpha
Fuck you Blizz, I want to play with the new garbage early.

Also, we now know what happened to Deathwing's remains.
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6th for me, Koragon
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>>128482687
651 he he he
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>>128482687
I'm more annoyed at those really shitty pets he has showing desu
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http://www.worldofwargraphs.com/statsglobal-companions-0-0.html

Let's see your rarest pet, wowg
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xrd for "I want to fuck the everliving shit out of Sylvanas"
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>>128483089
>Seaborne Spore

My rarest one is easily farmed, fuck.
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fixing thread with a mini waifu
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Straight out of Swat Kats, god damn
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What should I race change my shitty panda monk to? Was considering a fem nelf
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>>128483406
Goblins have a really weird posture and odd proportions
No idea how anyone could find them waifus
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>had mind blowing ERP with someone last week for days
>log on everyday since at the same time hoping to get their contact info
>they're never on again
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>>128483563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IodwFKvOyZQ

It needs to Make a "Rock out" sound when you do an emote with it
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>>128483563
TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND
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>>128482627
We don't want you anyways.
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>>128483612
fem nelf are fun
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>be me, a good goy
>be sub since 2004
>buy all blizz gamu
>never get beta invites

Fuck you, Blizz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whyBV4WTlSE
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>>128483612
Nothing, she's already perfect.
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>>128483932
we don't want you here too, but you won't leave
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>argent tournament dailies
>turning in that last valiant quest for the last faction
>getting like 5 achievements and Crusader at once since you had the reputation requirements done ages ago

anyone else felt that most glorious of feels?
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i want to die
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Does anyone know what that website for checking the most common titles was?
I just can't find the darn thing.

I want to see just how much of a pleb I am
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>>128484336
>doesn't have every pet and mount across 5 accounts and every CE ever
You are a very bad goy and you don't deserve shit t b h
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>>128482076
Test it yourself instead of leaving a passive aggressive smiley shitter
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>>128482029
how's that?
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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that don't have legion alpha
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How is you're day going wowg???
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>>128484695
Don't say that anon, there's always something to live for.
Life is a beautiful thing.
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>>128484831
U made???
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>tfw no legion alpha invite
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>>128484768
the entitled guide on wowhead has a top 10
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>>128485116
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Aw shit son we're getting Thunderfury artifact skins
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>>128484926
helpp me
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>>128483612
Female draenei make cool monks. Just consider the awesomeness of kicking with hooves!
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My main
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>>128483715

>mind blowing

Usually I prefer cock blowing, but whatever floats your boat.
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>tfw no beta because I sold my account
This is the first time I dont beta test their game.
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>>128485323
I would but I already have like 5 fem draenei
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>>128485314

They completely fucking ruined it. I swear, whatever artists they have working on the artifacts are complete fucking trash.
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>>128485325
>stormwind guard armor
>paladin

Don't ever fucking post here again.
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>>128485314
That had better be for the prot warrior artifact. The sword for Prot is pathetic.
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>>128485314
Warriors I assume?
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>>128485325
>maximum "plain/vanilla soldier" mog
>not a warrior

uhhh
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>>128485325
>Paladin
>SW mog
What the fuck, man
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>tfw no invisible shoulder option yet
Fuck you Blizz, give us that option right now
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>>128485717
what mog?
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>>128485594
>>128485550
>>128485460
It matches my tabard rep leveling in my guild
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Who else /NewCorruptedAshbringer/ here?
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>>128485717
Legion feature goyim
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>>128485868
I thought I told you not to post you fucking cunt?
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>>128485765
Pauldrons of Abyssal Fury, Warmonger's Cloak, Nobleman's Coat, Spiked Cobalt Gauntlets, Rethban Girdle, Nobleman's Pantaloons, and Nobleman's Fancy Boots

Nobleman stuff isn't soulbound, and is cosmetic. Any class.
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>>128484595
>we
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>>128485876
they really wanted to go overboard to make this shit look like vomit didn't they
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>>128485974
Fug you mane.
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>>128485876
It's actually not that bad looking, despite the edginess. Could use less skulls, but it's a good spiritual successor.
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What artifact is this supposed to be a variant of?
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Story time

>Get Mankrik on that daily quest that you need for Have...Have we met? Which you need for the Meta Ach Veteran of the molten front
>I need another one for it myself, another NPC
>Make a post on the forums how I have him and I can trade him for the NPC that I need
>Tons of people crawl out of the woodwork and ask for Mankrik
>I ask them if they have the NPC I need
>No, they don't but they swear and promise me on their life and mum that they will check it everyday for me
>I tell them that I know they won't once they get the Achievement, so I ask for a "Security deposit" of 10k Gold on their server that I will hold onto until I get the NPC that I need
>People get angry, swear at me, call me a scammer and stuff
>I reply to them "No problem, have fun waiting another couple of months for someone else with him"
>People get so incredibly angry it's unbelievable
>4 of the people from the horde that whispered me actually went with it and gave me 10k gold
>I make a lvl1 alt and take their gold
>Give them Mankrik, they are super happy that they finish an achievement that they were working on for years
>2 weeks pass, by a huge streak of luck I manage to get the NPC that I need myself
>whisper the people that gave me their gold
>Give the 10k back to every single one of those people and thank them for their cooperation

It's absolutely unbelievable how entitled and what a ridiculous and terrible attitude most people have in this game, they LITERALLY act like 8 year old children who want "Everything and now otherwise I will have a tantrum"
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>pve
>hard
>implying the only hard thing about doing scripted fights isn't putting up with the legit retards infesting your raid group
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Is there any info on professions from the alpha?
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>>128484926
all I need to do is kill myself then the pain will go away, eternal bliss, can't wait
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>>128486535
Looks like blood DK to me mang
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>>128486709
Could you please buy me some gametime before you kill yourself, mate?

It would be appreciated
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>>128485453
it looks fine, what is your problem?
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>>128486535
Wow that's really nice looking
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>>128486574
>won't share an npc because he's a giant jew
>pretends other people are the ones that have a bad attitude
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Do I only need to get blacksmithing (truesteel set, steelforged weapons) to upgrade 3 to max out their cosmetic appearance? These savage bloods are raping my wallet, man
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>Sunshafts

Sexy as fuck
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>>128486574
forum shitters are the same in every game m8
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>Getting kicked out of Nexus group for denying some fag a shit achievement
>He gets really mad
>Tell him to fuck off and solo the achiev literally 10 levels after
>"I don't have time for that"
>mfw
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>>128487121
>giant jew

did you even read what I wrote?

I needed something that would guarantee to me that people would actually continue to check for the NPC for me
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>>128487192

Turn your character around so it looks like they're coming out from behind her.
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Why did Blizz have to make such shit Druid tier
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>>128484926
Found my ex's profile on a dating site, found out shes been seeing a guy i used to know. Like a faggot i tried to get back in touch with her but shes clearly moved on and i cant help but feel left behind. Im wasting my life away browsing the internet and playing a decade old video game while shes having a good time, i have no job no marketable skills.

Think its time to get the fuck out into the world and make something of myself. Wish me luck
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>>128487192
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>>128487471
cya in a week senpai
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>>128487148
Anyone? Surely someone else is trying to make the best looking plate in the game
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>>128487442

If they made it actually druid colored it'd look so much better.
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>>128487589
>playing plate
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>>128487442

Honestly it wouldn't be so bad if the colors were such shit. Like why? Hopefully the shoulders fit better on WoD models, too.
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>First thing that popped into my mind when I saw the fox mount
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>>128487675
>not playing paladin for legion
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>>128487442
ah yes that lovely stormwind color for all those worgen druids
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>>128487442
Looks really lovely
Tempted to buy the WoD digital deluxe raven for the gold and blue set, looks really nice

Also lmao @ "druid colours"
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>>128487442
I'd rather see a druid set displayed on a night elf male than human male, I don't need to be reminded of all those worgens who'll be casually touting all their out of place shit in their human form
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His final form.
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>>128488486
honey mustard yrel when
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>>128486535
Arcanite Reaper
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>>128484926
Was in bed the whole day pretty much.

Might go clear H HFC and try to get 4pc for my PLD, then try to bat my eyelashes into Mythic.
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>>128484926
ok, i bought a new peacoat and stuff
i have no drive to play wow now that i've killed h archi and have my legendary ring
kinda sucks, i like having an mmo to just go ham on when i have nothing else i wanna play
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>>128488486
>Skin was made in HotS where he was a super large demon
>They just add spikes to a generic orc model instead

They could have LITERALLY reused the AzGul'Dan skin and it would've been fine.
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>>128488023
isn't it too late now
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manari eredar are so cute

why we gotta kill em
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>>128489748
just wear a trip so i can filter you you pathetic fucking nerd
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>>128486574
> do ashran boss
> some dude misses win because he's afk in base
> keeps "calling" boss push
> gets mad as fuck when people tell him to fuck off and do events
I love the angst in ashran. Do these autists not realise that the domination quest is a bonus at most?
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>>128490568
No.

Shit-post more, please.
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Where are the lewdposters? I need some elf butts
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>>128490037
>hotshitfags thinking they're relevant

lmao
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>>128490037
Looks like the dwemer dude from morrowind.
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>>128490792
then google them you sad fuck
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>mfw most trannies kill themselves in their 20s/30s
>mfw vjera will kill himself

good feel
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>>128488609
Yrel has to be ketchup to play the condiment theme.

We'll start the fight with this in the background.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fcEZSqQt_Ho
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>can't give my argent squire an argent crusade pennant

WHY DOES BLIZZ HATE PALADINS
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>>128484840
Well it plays like garbage now but it performs well. I don't know how BM players live with themselves.
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>>128485876
I fucking love it. I couldn't be happier. If there's one thing that Legion is doing right so far for me it would be that badassery and I'll play just to use it. haha.
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>>128490783
>>128490568
>>128489748
>>128484926

These are truly the posts that wowg is known for.
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>>128491685
Yes.
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Why gather apexis when I can just gear my characters in ilvl 700 gear via pvp? only asking because of the bonus apexis week.
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>>128491685
Thats 4chan dumb ass.
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So since the people on NA are awake now, is there any NA raid groups who need a tank for heroic HFC?
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>>128490918
everyone knows youre the same autistic fag crying in these threads about discord and whateve
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>>128492007
Yes
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>>128491906
Well while you're out you generally tend to collect a shit ton of baleful tokens, so if you roll good stats and the relevant pvp pieces are terrible stat wise you can just chuck on upgrade on that instead. Good for classes that have to stack particular stats on all of their gear.
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>tfw came here to post >tfw no unborn valk
>found one literally as i typed that
lucky as fuck tbqh

>>128492007
always post at least EU/NA and Horde/Ally if you're looking for a group/guild here m8
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>>128492007
It's a stretch to invite an undergeared DPS to a heroic raid, but it happens on occasion. A tank though? I'd say you have better odds of winning the powerball tonight.

Try going DPS (or healer if possible as those are in extremely high demand right now) and set your loot specialization to tank and build up your gear that way. Also, don't forget to do your Mythic Dungeons and Kazzak.
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I haven't played in several years, is raiding for anything aside from WoD raids dead? Like, if I wanted to raid on some alts, am I out of luck?
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I have two questions, wowg.

First question is: fem belf or fem troll? I'm race changing my priest.

Third question: Who is best girl, a female troll or a female orc?
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Just used my 100 boost, so whats the fastest way to gear it
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So who's rolling a Demon Hunter in Legion?
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>>128492062
Alliance or horde?
>>128492394
I posted NA and have mad dosh so I can faction change if need be.
>>128492402
How do you do mythic dungeons?
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>>128492394
Is there a trick to farming her? I want to get one of my own.

>>128492564
Fem belf if you want to healslut. Femtroll if you want people to take you seriously.

>>128492578
Tanaan / Ashran, depending on your flavor.
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>>128492594
I plan on sticking with my paladin
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>>128493063
>Is there a trick to farming her? I want to get one of my own.

Doing the Argent Dailies landed me with three of them. She's supposed to have only one spawn at a time so I'd suggest just searching Icecrown spawns.
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>>128493063
literally ran into her
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>>128493190

You should actually stick with your panda, she's cute.
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>>128493063
Why can't a femtroll be a healslut? Being a slut is what they do.

>when enraged and in heat, a female troll can mate over 80 times in one night.
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>>128493442
>tfw circled zul'drak for like 20 minutes a couple years ago and found her that quick
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>>128493442
>>128493502
I guess I should start those Argent Dailies, then.

>>128493682
But belves don't need 80 times to make their mate reach their peak.
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>Mannoroth's Fury is gone in Legion.

It's not fair. The passive one allowed me to farm solo at a ridiculous pace. I had a farm spot that would net me 100000 gold a day through silk, pets and world drops.

And now I'll never have it back.
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post raiding and/or minigaming music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz0EuUS8elU
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>13/13m invite


feels good man
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>>128493886
oy m8 im prety sure it means 80 orgasms
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>>128494081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QImBolnTVH8
on loop
forever
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>>128494161
>tfw lfr hero
feels bad
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>>128494161
I thought some people in your guild already had invites
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>>128489259
HOOOOOOOOOO
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>>128493027
Find or make a group for any of the WoD Dungeons on Mythic difficulty using the LF tool Blizzard made. You can't queue for these so you need to pick the dungeon you want to do in advance and have everyone fly to it and enter it like you would in the old days before LFD.

I highly suggest that you make your own group because people are also really picky with ilvl for Mythic Dungeons, but I've snuck in my 670 mage by making my own group. I'm sure there'd be people on here who'd be willing to do some with you as well.

Mythic dungeon gear can drop an ilvl up to 720.
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>>128494161
>my guild's been stuck on mythic mannoroth for two weeks now

feels bad man
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>>128494161
good job sawickers
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>>128494161
>i'm a good player look at me guise!
>using DBM

dragon slayers everyone
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I didn't appreciate Tanaan Jungle's geography until I got flying. It's really well designed, albeit a pain in the ass to navigate on foot.
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>>128495567
>i'm a good player look at me guise!
>Using Gladius
>Using Omnibar

Pillar humpers everyone
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>>128482176
Hey guys I want to play a healing class, so what is the most effective and fun pve healing class?

I know paladins are not in this list
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>Currently being talked down to this condescending cunt of a Warlock for having my own Warlock be a member of the Black Harvest due to the fact that I have the title
>Keeps saying that he's trying not to sound like an asshole
Sorry for having fucking fun, my fucking bad.
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>>128495739
except you have to play with the vanilla UI if you want to PVP seriously.
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>>128495567
>using addons and third--party user interfaces
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>>128492564
troll for priest all the way
literally no better priest race in the game
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>>128495898
most tournaments aren't LAN anymore. you only need to get used to vanilla UI if you plan on playing literally at blizzcon and sometimes regionals, though regionals have been online before.

players who are at that level generally can adapt to vanilla ui after getting a couple tournament-allowed ui moving macros
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>>128495828

I don't get it, why is he mad?
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Fuck this Alpha build. They ruined MM. The only good thing to come out of it is the elements abandoning Thrall and causing him to lose Doomhammer.
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>>128494646
Cool beans.

I'ma go afk to get some food and a drink, anyone here on NA alliance want to do some Mythic dungeons in about 5 min?

Snoipah#1274
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>>128496275
I'm doing them in about 30 and need a DPS. Are you DPS
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>>128496407
MM has always been boring, aimed shot is dumb
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>>128496407


>this
>>128496578
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>>128496319
Because apparently I'm not RPing my Warlock properly. And yet his character is over 500 years old and is human.

It's all right here if you want to read it. http://imgur.com/a/l5TSM
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>>128496439
I'm a tank, darn.
>>128496578
MM is the least boring spec back in MoP.
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>>128494646
>ilvl up to 720.

As in warforged items or do loot tables just contain different ilvls?
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>>128497668
Holy fucking shit is that guy ever autistic (in a friendly manner though xDD)
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>>128497668
Generally, Player character special person shit is frowned upon. Especially since the only current living member of the black harvest is Ritssyn.

It's like legendary weapons.

He's not wrong.
He's also a stupid cunt for being 500 years old.

Don't worry about it too much, but Probably reel in the black harvest thing.
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I haven't been playing since shortly after Tannan was added. I've been checking the patch notes, but it doesn't seem as if there have been any significant changes since then. Anything of interest happen in recent months, /wowg/?
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>>128498242
Just Legion spoiilers.
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>>128497931
If I wanted to cast shit all the time I'd play a caster, you know?
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>>128498242
Killing Heroic archy drops a moose mount, and there's cata timewalking dungeons and shit now
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>>128498209
I did to get him to shut the fuck up, but the Black Harvest was also reformed and in Legion there'll be a lot more members, so who knows.
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>>128497668
>moon guard

lmao
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>>128497945
I don't know if it counts as warforged but it's essentially the same concept. The gear just has a chance of dropping in 5 ilvl increments all the way up to 720. You could get something at 705 or 715 too.
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>>128494161
Yell at them about MW stuff now that you have forum access
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>>128498527
>Black Harvest was also reformed and in Legion
Yeah, when you meet Ritssyn. Who is a radical fucking dude.

Technically there's two members: Ritssyn and the nameless hero of the green fire quest. But again, when it comes to RP, you're not THE GUY of any quest or story unfolding. At least, usually.
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>use moonfags claw toy
>mfw like the fuck out of it
What's the best race for a shaman?
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>>128498672
I get you now. I have season 3 epics but I'm still looking for ways to get better gear without raiding.

710 beats the best apexis gear plus it has set bonuses.

Is 720 common or am I going to have a bad time?
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>>128499336
pvp set bonuses deactivate in raid instances
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>>128499335
Tauren undoubtedly.
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>>128499417
does a heroic dungeon count as a raid?
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>>128499335
Male panda or male tauren
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>>128499335
Draenei.
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*teleports in from the mists*

whoa hey guys
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>>128499335
Troll or tauren or dwarf
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Are mythic dungeon fights different from normal dungeon fights?
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>>128499889
they just use the CM mechanics
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Tell borf a bed time story
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Post degenerates.
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>>128495789
Pls respond
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>>128500106
>tfw no dwarf bro to purge evil with
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>>128500042
once upon a time in a magical place there was two (2) dalarans
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>>128499849
Can you teleport away again
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Kill off Tirion but not Thrall. gay
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>go from war and able to solo nearly anything to mage
>can't solo strong elites at all - have to wait for a tank

does it get better with i700+

ice barrier is not enough
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>>128500123
hpally and disc are mandatory healers on progress, monk is good and fun once you have set bonuses
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>>128500106

>this isn't the freedom I've fought for
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*Heroic Leaps into the crowd of 4channers out of nowhere*

Hey.
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>>128500318
Fuck off Blueno
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Is there anywhere with a collection of artifact acquisition quest lines videos?
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>>128500170
why not just be a big banda
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>>128500318
what the fuck is wrong with your UI
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>>128500185
whoa
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>>128500318
Fuck off, Blueno.
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>>128500410
My name is Crocodile now.
>>128500481
It's the best UI.
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>>128500560
Fuck off Blueno
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>>128500289
mage is the absolute worst class to solo stuff
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>>128500560
Fuck off Blueno.
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>>128500713
At least i'll do good dps once geared
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>>128500480
Cute panda
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>>128482176
wew lads
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>>128500713
Not even, you can solo the entirety of ToT as a mage, if you can't handle a WoD elite you're just shit
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I want to die
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>>128500839

wow what a fucking racist degenerate
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>>128500946
>Not even, you can solo the entirety of ToT as a mage

Sorry but I'm not 740
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*swims into thread*
hey lads
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>>128501274
You can solo up to animus at 700
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>>128501143
welcome to wowg

we're degenerates
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>>128501383
Did I miss out on a dank gathering again
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>>128501383
I wish I could go to a wowg party but I'm on the wrong server, and also I don't want to get made fun of for being a shitter.
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>>128501708
yeah it was a fun duel extravaganza in the argent tournament arena
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>>128501143
>It's racist to give only to those that you like / deserve it
So be it
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>>128501839
we set up groups to invite people xrealm. it was on wra but we had people from illidan, sargeras, etc. all coming. the only thing preventing people from coming is if they're eu
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we should have another meme party tonight
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>>128501980
>wra

SCRUB REALM
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>>128501960
the only thing pandarens deserve is heart disease and diabetes
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>>128501383
Whoa is that the real icycrits? :o
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>>128501980
Oh, really?
Maybe I'll join the next one then.
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>>128500293
>hpally
>Mandatory
Is this a new meme?
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>>128502206
Is there another meeting happening right now?
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>>128502084
no, they're not good when they're forced
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I love this macro
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>>128502147
yeah it's absolute trash no argument there idk why im there

>>128502206
YES, I LOVE Icychan ofc the real one was there!

(this is not icychan in the picture)
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at least the avatarkids have to be in bed by 9 or their mums will yell at them

late night wowg is best wowg
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>>128502408
I won icy's boipucci you peasant...
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>>128502245
It's the absorbs.
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>>128502437
>avatarkids have to be in bed by 9
the meetup last night went til like 4am est

>>128502371
tru. this one happened when i challenged a bunch of people to a duel

>>128502540
hey fuckass ill destroy you on my rogue later i stg m8
but vermintide now
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>>128502540
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>>128502619
>rogues

dont make me LAFF m8
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>>128502192
Don't be silly, we use all natural ingredients.
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>>128502874
Your breasts seem to have gotten much bigger
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>>128502540
>tfw got off right when the real party kicked off
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>>128502736
u didnt see me mongo a feral down in a few seconds or make a former glad rogue look like a god damn fool 1v1

im real @ rogue m8
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Which hairstyle should I get my draenei
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i just hope they dont discriminate against me during our mythics :'(
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>>128503015
your rinky dink daggers can't pierce my steel armor kid...
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>>128503082

>4 pandas 1 belf

poor little elf girl
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pally or dk for pve mdps? i want to offspec tank eventually
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>>128503237
;)
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>>128502824
Sugar is natural. More sugar than your body can produce insulin can cause diabetes.
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>>128503237
>that horse face
Just like irl, eh, icy?
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>>128503410
DKs get an autoinvite to every raid just for having Gorefiend's grasp and blood is always OP

But paladin is still better because JUSTICE
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>>128503493
Hey that wasn't very nice.
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>>128503640
Christian I SWEAR to GOD. If you don't tone down your avatarfagging...
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Does this trigger any Tauren?
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im not exactly sure whats happening here
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>>128503936
The pandaren are mad.
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Just came back. Got that weekly for the 1000 garrison resources, and 5k crystals.

What exactly is an "apexis objective", and where I get them?
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