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How fares your empire, /gsg/?
This day in history, January 13th:
1607 – The Bank of Genoa fails after announcement of national bankruptcy in Spain.
1793 – Nicolas Jean Hugon de Bassville, representative of Revolutionary France, lynched by a mob in Rome
1842 – Dr. William Brydon, an assistant surgeon in the British EIC Army during the First Anglo-Afghan War, becomes famous for being the sole survivor of an army of 4,500 men and 12,000 camp followers when he reaches the safety of a garrison in Jalalabad, Afghanistan.
1895 – First Italo-Ethiopian War: the war's opening battle, the Battle of Coatit, occurs; it is an Italian victory.
>News
>Victoria 2 Patch 3.04 beta is out. Check the archive.
CK2 Conclave DD 1
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/conclave-dev-diary-1.902002/
HOI4 08/01 DD 39
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-39th-development-diary-8th-of-january-2016.901374/
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# Archive
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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76
>>EU4 - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2
>>[CK2 - 2.4.5] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc
>>[V2] - 7 Days v0.1
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u
>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.2.1 - 23/12/2015
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk
>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.5
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr
>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V6
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV
>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar
>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/
Old thread >>128386939
Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
>>128463545
>2 different IPs
so you're not necessarily the op
i'm sorry i doubted you
you're still a bitch
>new rig
>sanic fast
>blazing through months in all Paradox games
>decide to play CK2
>going smoothly
>war declared
>game slows to a crawl
What the fug
This post is dedicated to the Tsar.
fix the fucking date nig
WE WUZ NAZIS N SHEIT
>>128464101
Oh andBarcelona.
>>128464135
>Imperial restoration could happen in your lifetime.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/586470/Russia-royal-family-Vladimir-Putin-reinstate-Tsar-Nicholas-Second-Romanov
>>128464709
To better times
>>128464827
They just want to protect their gypsy tears.
>>128463471
>1607 – The Bank of Genoa fails after announcement of national bankruptcy in Spain
PAY DEBTS
>>128465331
Clean borders are the best borders.
>>128465929
Me neither but I'll throw some guesses
L->R
>Hisui
>France
>No idea desu. Russia?
>Ottomans
>Germany
>Austria
>On this day in 1128, Pope Honorius II grants a papal sanction to the military order known as the Knights Templar, declaring it to be an army of God.
B A S E D
Just sucks how it ended ;_;
At least I still got my waifu thanks to them.
>>128466302
http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/3/3a/Temp_rival_10.mp3
Why are blacks so ugly in CK2?
>>128466513
Why are blacks so ugly in real life?
>>128466513
Realism IS a valid argument
Alright /GSG/.
Been away over the past few months.
Last I heard there was some DLC about Horses for CK2 and Common Sense for EU4.
desu I got bored of EU4 back in 2013 but still, what's going on? Were they any good?
What DLC is Johan planning to pull out of his arse now?
>>128466302
what happened to them
>>128467169
They were abolished because they had like a banking organization and stuff and they became a liability because proper christians aren't supposed to be nickle and diming usurers. There was some framing going on because certain powers thought them a threat and wanted them gone, I believe.
At least that's how I remember it. I may be off.
>>128466302
They shouldn't have kissed and fucked eachother
will someone explain to me how the teutonic order became prots/prussia
>>128395025
Current status:
managed to get an ally, Charsianon. We also have our brother as an ally, although he has a -100 opinion of us.
built a toll booth in Constantinople's trade post to get some mad dosh.
major threats for now seem to be only some of the larger duchies. maybe our lack of prestige and the nomads / tribals too.
also, a little backround:
I was playing the game on observe, in ck2 +. I went to take a shower, and the byzantine empire was fucking gone. eventually, the former emperor remade the title, having only Constantinople, it was at this point I started playing.
>>128429721
theatrum orbis terrarum
>>128467539
they didn't
>>128467559
That mapmod is so disgusting for a moment I thought I was looking at a disgusting game converted to EU4 with shitty mapmod.
>>128467586
but we wuz kingz
>>128467043
poor guy
>>128467698
Your mom is also disgusting, but people keep sticking dicks in her
>>128467709
what
>>128467826
shit nigger
>>128467559
Great map mod. Just look at that beautifully shaped venice.
>>128467948
He's gon get banned again
>The oen in a trillion starts where Vijayanagar doesn't shitrek everyoneExcept when you don't play in India, then they just lose 100%
Ah well, my time to shine maybe at last.
>>128468132
Just a warning, lad
>>128468151
is playing designated any fun
>>128467916
>new ip
>posting 'test'
Are you trying to make extremely obvious that you are ban evading?
>>128467386
They were Abolished cus BBB king, Philip decided he needed Shekels because he's a big retard and France was poor as fuck, so he decided to pick on the Templars trough the Pope and basicaly disbanded them to take all the riches htey had accumulated from the Crusades, even tough all their riches were rightfuly gained and not stolen from Christians
>>128468469
I'm a new IP? I'm seriously not ban evading, just my post in which I was talking about ban evading was deleted. I didn't reset my router, I didn't even close the browser.
>>128468292
Eh. I'm an achievement whore so I've got experience with it a tad. If you want an easy start. I recommend Bengal or Gujarat. If you want to play Hindu with muh deities and deity events, Vijayanagar, Delhi. If you don't want poo in loo, but buddhist kek, which is almost the same, you should probably go to Indochina.Fun is just a buzzword :'^)
How do I open the console comands in Vic 2? (downloaded from the OP)
>>128468968
Press `
>>128468968
Alt 2 1
>>128469064
>>128469082
Which one?
Also, it works on mods, right?
>>128469214
this>>128469082
but 2 1 in the num pad
>>128469214
Try both, ` is the same button as tilde. And yes, it does work with mods. Why wouldn't it?
>>128469368
>Why wouldn't it?
Somethings are just retarded with no explanation
Lads I want something cool to do in Vicky 2, preferably not too hard.
>>128469950
GroB Russaniums
>>128469950
Bhutan
>johan in charge of programming
good job
>>128470038
But that is hard, I want some baby tier shit that doesn't require managing a trillion provinces.
>>128470006
When it was founded
When did /r/paradoxplaza become full of non ironic kid commies?
>>128469950
Either Romania or Greece.
>>128470064
lad
>>128470174
Fine. Play a comfy game as Isolationist Austria-Hungary
>>128470134kurwa
>>128470134
actually that was written by
>written by Sara Wendel-Örtqvist
>>128470263
I said not managing a trillion provinces, Austria is still too big, and I need to fight the fucking Prussians.
>>128470253
>in sphere of UK
I count that as a failure
>>128470352
holy shit you baby go play eu4 then
>>128470315
but was she in charge to add buttons to close the damn thing?
>>128470352
Nope lad. Just remove all ya spherelings and Italian Cores :^)
>>128470134
>A month after cossacks released
>UI still breaks sometimes after as little as an hour of playtime
>>128470405
You fucking do better
>>128470479
Yeah, that's a bug in the event script not in the game.
>>128470423
I'm worse at EU4 then at vicky, also the colors and map of EU hurt my eyes. I'll let you know that I bench lmao1pl8 for 5 reps so I am not a baby.
>>128470234
I like that but I just played Bulgaria so I want a different region
>>128470505
As far as I know that's not UI breaking. Or at least, I've never had it happen on events to me
>>128470479
>>128470598
As EU4modder, here's what happens if an event has no options: you fucked up the coding. Something happened and the game didn't read the "option" part. Either it's not there, or you most likely just fucked up with brackets.
>>128470752
That's literally what I just said
>>128470752
the game is vanilla (aside from flat map mod)
btw, the event disappears after some time goes and the game crashes to desktop
good job paradox, good job
Is there no good map mod for CK2?
>>128470501
But I don't want to be irrelevant. Can I go danubian federation if I do that?
![GxSoEiP[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/W31a7mj.jpg "GxSoEiP[1].jpg")
JUST LIKE REAL LIFE
Why do canadians always brag that they burnt down the whitehouse even though we burnt down their parliament building in the same war?
>>128471621
Holy shit, that looksgreat
>>128471293
Sure man, why not
Hey /gsg/, I've been learning about the Haitian Revolution recently and it makes me want to start a game of Victoria 2 as Saint-Domingue, where the whites weren't killed. Moving the capital to Le Cap aside, what do you think the pops should be like? French landowners as a small minority, and as the only accepted pops?
>>128470648
How about Poland? If you release the Congress Kingdom from Russia it's not that hard.
Lads, my laptop is cucked up. Will a quality tower from 2010 be enough to run EU IV, Vicky 2, and some dank HoI 3?
>>128472381
Consering I run em on a shitty tower from 2010, yes
>>128472381
Yes.
t. guy with quality tower from 2009
>>128471760I agree!
>>128463471
xth for this is not the future I chose
>>128472637
wew lad
>>128471719
If you can say we weren't a country yet, I can make the same argument here. Not our parliament, it was a Brits'.
>>128471719
It's literally the only thing they did worthy of note in history so of course they're going to be quite attached to it.
>>128472637
The civil war was pretty tough too.
>>128472503
>>128472562
Thanks anons :3
>>128472854
why lad
>>128472854
>those borders
Ayyy
>>128467559
What is this mod?
I dont care about graphics, I just want normal Brandenburg
>theatrum orbis terrarum
according to pics on steam page it doesnt change that
>>128472854
delete this
In CK2, can I somehow get a say in which countys different sons will inherit with gravelkind?
>>128472637
>>128472854
And the scramble for Africa was a shamble from start to finish.
>>128472838
a provincial legislature, of their less important Canadian province, Montreal and Kingston are what mattered, not York
>inb4 but the white house didn't matter.
>>128472637
>that scandinavia
>>128473239
italy always gets so much in vanilla lmao
>>128473682
>so much
>literally barren wasteland
>>128472637
>>128472854
>>128473239
You've posted these screens 3 times alreadu snd I'm oretty sure they are from reddit as well
>>128473228
Like, I want son A to get county A and B and son B to get county C, but right now A gets A and C
>>128473769
yeah because in the late 19th century the rest of the interior of africa was some fucking paradise, give me a break you know what i meant
>>128473809
You're thinking of these gems
what country should i be
>>128473994
Yes, the rest of Africa had infinitely more POPs and actually useful resources like rubber, cotton and tropical wood.
>>128474119
Ethiopia
>>128474028
HPM is the kaiserreich/death in texas/blackice of Vic2, can't believe people still play this bloated boring shit mod
>>128474028
>>128474254
>>128473994
Except what italy has there is pretty much the sahara.
>>128474234
h-here i go!
>>128474507
well seeing as they never colonise anything in hpm they have got a lot, fuck off
>>128474667
Rude.
>>128474667
they do, sometimes anon
>>128473141
It's just whatever map change comes with ck2+
>>128474590
For the white city, for Frodo!
Alright I was in the thread earlier and said I'd post a screenshot.
So now what is the best thing to do? Remove polebab , expand into all the small things in the west or something else? What would look best?
>>128475304
y no zombie invasion mod 4 CK2?
>>128475304
>Prussia
>Expand into west
Disgusting, you have to ethnically cleanse Poles and the Baltic, remove some kebab, and then be world police.
>>128475618
I have never been able in time to get all the stuff needed to form Germany before. I have tried being emperor and uniting HRE but being able to do the reforms is a bit difficult either I never get enough points or not enough people agree with me to do it.
Lads which sounda better Austro Hungarian Mauritania ir Austro Hungarian Congo
Is the current version of HPM compatible with the BETA patch?
Is the BETA patch even worth installing?
>>128475694
I dunno about getting Baltics because then to even that out I would need to also get rid of stuff from Lithuania wouldn't I? Would rather take stuff from Poland instead.
>>128476391
Austro-Hungarian (later Danubian) Egypt or Nigeria.
>>128476392
Yes
>>128476391
Congo lad
Did Hispaniola stay entirely agricultural during the 19th century? Tobacco is such a useless RGO...
r8 my Rhodesia lads
>>128477347
ebin pham
>>128477347
some real good work with the religion column on display there
>>128477347
>ZANU
Black minority rule?
>>128477347
some real good work with the icons on display there
>>128477347
>white anglo
>not British
>no Boers
>random niggers
>black anglo
>>128471719
because it was a war that the US started and it happened near the end
>>128477347
You know if you disable your banner mod the date won't be pitch black right? I had the same problem.
The banner mod also fucks up your religion icons. The dude who made it really needs to get his shit together.
>>128478187
It was in the middle of the war not the end. In the end we kicked the brit's and canadian's ass at baltimore and new orleans.
>>128477347
How the fuck does the combat even works in this mod? like should i just stack tanks and send them to battle or what?
>>128476517
Yeah for right now I'm just gonna deal with Poland, I have the mission to take Silesia that Poland took from Bohemia so that gives me some cores already.
>>128479036
I probably should wait though til they attack me instead unless I am able to get all my allies with me which doesn't happen much.
I just rigged it so anyone can get new world immigration by firing an event. Who should I play?
SERB HAVE WISD;OM OF FALCON idyot burk stink bosnia bak 2 mongolia 4 u ehhhehehe remember the ww2 we kill the king
>>128479473Papal Rome only getting as many immigrants as possible for top memetic power
>>128479473
britain obviously
how blobby can you get? I mean, you don't need to give a fuck about infamy already so just go for it, go all the fuck out. Do crazy ugly blob shit
>>128479473
Sweden! Gotta get those immigrants :-DDDD
are furniture factories worth it
>>128477221
show reforms
>>128470215
>110 million in the bank
>as csa
le pdm faic
>>128475684
pls respond frinds
>>128479337
Though the baltics do look tempting now that I think about it it's the only non HRE smaller countries near me.
Is greece fun to play?
Does it get extra decisions in HPM?
How do I conquer the Malvinas as a nation with two techs in navy?
>>128480341
>Is greece fun to play?
Yes
>Does it get extra decisions in HPM?
No, it get's one less decision since he removed Byzantium.
>>128480341
No, besides a decision to move the capital to Constantinople if you take it. HPM nerfed Greece's literacy and starting pop and you don't get the Age of Liberalism events, so you can't take Voule ton Ellinon because it has a minimum prestige requirement you used to get from that event.
>>128480508
>Partido Socialista
>>128480541
>>128480584
Oh shoot should I not play it in HPM then or is the nerf not as painful as it seems?
>>128480821
>not wanting a comfy socialist party as a democracy
>>128480853
Nah, it's not that big of a difference when fighting the Ottomen and Blurple was a meme anyway.
>>128480821
>>128480885
please dont start
i cant handle anymore of /gsg/ """"discussing"""" politics
>>128472637
>vanilla
same amount and type of planes
battle in my territory
close to my airbase
better leadership
more experienced
superior tactics
-5 minister modifier(only negative)
same stacking penalty
better attack and defense effectiveness overall
all of this and my best case scenario is a draw
what am I doing wrong?
>>128481056
please answer me - >>128480508
>>128474028
How does this even happen?
>>128481132
Start over because 51% literacy in 1986 is disgraceful.
>>128481004
The literacy and the pop nerf are most of my worries though, couldn't care less about memezantium
>>128477347
>secularism is a religion
Since when?
>>128481132
The same as you would in any circumstance
>>128481274
He needs the low literacy to keep the socialists as the ruling party
>>128481328
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Literacy nerf is not a big deal while fighting the Ottomen, pretty much your only enemy in the first half of the game.
>>128481374
kek
>>128481068
Did your side start out damaged? If so that could be the reason.
>>128480821
t. Alberto Barbosa
>>128481350
I wouldn't
>>128475304
>Karelian Estonia
finally... occupying egypt sucks!
>>128481068
>Hurricane mkI vs BF109 F-9
>>128464583
>Kang and Sheid
Just a reminder that 'A Cruce Victoria' is the best Paradox track of all time
OF ALL TIME
>>128481968
Yeah bit outdated now Sweden owns that spot. For awhile Karelian had a decent size up there.
Hey guys, is there a way to change all uncivilized nations to civilized and all civilized nations to civilized, I wanna do a Bizarro world Victoria 2 mod
>>128463471
ok mafia mod for vic2/ck2 when ?
I was promised it would be released in my lifetime and tbqh I dont think I will around for much longer
>>128482903
Also now after a war I joined Sweden with I own Riga but they survived moving to Gotland. I'm hoping to at least to have the south Latvia section that Sweden didn't take because I have Riga and can core those 3 now.
Would something like this work in CK2? If you have 1 sea province that is essentially 2 separate lakes, would it be possible to make a strait between 2 disconnected provinces? I want to implement a sort of underground tunnel scenario.
>>128483156
why anon? why not going to be around for many longer?
>>128482910
t. johan
>>128481068
>>128481528
>>128482215
made sure my planes were full str
400 of mine vs 355 of them
they upgraded to next tier IntF
124 vs 112 efficiency
same result as ever: tie
>>128483473
I dunno about CK2, but last time I tried strait modding in EU4 (which, admittedly, was a while bacK), they were defined as following
>Province 1, province 2, "sea province"
First two entries obviously to determine which provinces to connect, and the third was to determine which sea you have to occupy to block the strait. I've made global straits back then, so I assume that you could make your "underground tunnels" too.
>>128481132
you get the only two naval techs that matter and cuck the britbongs how hard is it
>>128483156
Mafia mod? Fuck off retard
>>128483156
mafia mod? how bout this for a mafia mod!?
*unzips penis*
>>128483318
Crap right after Poland declared on me the game also decided that was the perfect time to start the religion war so all my allies are too damn busy to help me stop poland.
>>128483694
Fag, I'm just trying to make a reverse gaym
>>128484462
Phew was able to white peace. Fuck do I hate shit like this where the game decides to try to screw you over.
>>128484469
t. wiz
>>128484046
Sounds promising. I'll have to test it to make sure. My only concern is it might not be able to consider 2 different lakes as 1 province, but it appears to happen in vanilla.
>>128482910
go to \Victoria 2\history\countries
remove all civilized = yes tags for civs, and add it to all the uncivs.
also back-up your files or make it a small mod.
>>128485445
I'll do that right now, thanks Anon.
I want to make it a mod, so I'll release it once its done and give it to you guys.
Well, this was a strange test game. Strange and mostly useless, since the Congo didn't form the data I can collect is limited. Not pictured: Burmese Laos.
So, /gsg/
What is your ideological inclination?
>>128486031
anargo-syndigalism
>>128486031
Proud hoxhaist here.
>>128485874
I finished giving LR to SE asia and the Philippines. Population there should grow now.
I also finished doing the pops in the Congo. The dark brown in HPM is african minor while the light blue in vanilla is the same pop.
In the end, the net cultures is +1. I joined Ruanda and Runi cultures in one, but I added the Chokwe (which also represent the Luvale) to Angola/Congo.
>>128486031
Nadsi :DDDDD
>>128486031
>confining your ideology in a label
>>128486031
Communist because I'm still 18*
>>128486031
pan-monarchism
>>128478269
What banner mod? Is it somewhere in the mod files?
>5 years and the front hasn't moved
>>128486218
Population in the Congo was raised to the estimated ~20 million. The Kingwana, Swahili speaking Bantu of the east are the pops that have the sunni that make up almost 10% of the population. Before it was 100% animist.
I also managed to catch a bug that was preventing anything but the philanthropic path for the Congo.
>>128486031
Communist.
>>128485783
Frankly there will be a lot of balance issues- like the fact that former uncivs will still have 4% lit and events that assume that GB is still a GP will pop. Also I think former uncivs get decisions and events that might not be available to the new uncivs.
>>128486768
youre just joking right
>>128486696
Density was mostly kept the same, except for Uvira where the population was greatly increased. Most changes were done following a population density map:
http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/downloads/maps/grump-v1/grump-v1-population-density/coddens.jpg
>>128486856
No. Sorry if I triggered you senpai.
>>128486031
National Syndicalism
>>128487006
i am triggered, explain yourself you baka hentai. why do you think this way?
>>128486970
>basing 1836 population on 2000 figures
wew
>>128487126
Why do lolbertarians think that way?
>>128486970
are you going to try to give the rest of Africa a once over for pops? the new pops are REALLY noticable on the density map and it makes me wonder if other areas are underpopulated too.
>>128486031
Armchair Tradicionalist reporting in
>>128487126
This isn't the thread for that.
>>128486696
looks really good desu, release when?
>>128478269
I don't play NWO and the mod was never intended to work for NWO.
>>128486218
>belgium
kek
rate my australia
>>128487569
retard
>>128486696
In a manual test where I always chose the most brutal option, the population dropped to this: 6.84M people are left alive. 12.6M people died in the swedish congo.
>>128487130
The lack of older figures/maps for density makes it necessary need to base it off something, in this case, modern.
>>128487221
I took a look a long time ago at pops in SAF and Namibia and the figures were mostly correct. Didn't do to it in Angola or other places though. To be fair, the Congo was really big and really full of people.
>>128487397
No date yet, sorry. Shouldn't be long though, if the tests finish properly.
>>128486218
HPM you should make the color of Afro-Brazilian and Brazilian a bit more different, those two greens are almost the same
>>128487569
No New Zealand?
>>128487659
they sure do like you a lot even though you pretty much genocided them
>>128487706
Seconding this
>>128487659
>TS is great power
but according to /gsg/ historians they live_in mud huts and trew rock at each others
now leaving memes aside, end of liberal revolution should have lover prestige, from 25 to 15 maybe?
what's the best army comp in NWO?
>>128487793
I have New Zealand, Aceh, and a bit of Africa. Wouldn't fit in the picture.
>>128488019
prestige depends on how reformed you are, you get a lot for not giving an inch and if you end the revolution a constitutional monarchy with lots of reforms you only get 5
>>128488019
assmad sicilian slumboy detected
>>128487659
The data for the final Swedish Congo was this
4.86 - Beginning
1 - 3.63 - First time
NET LOSS -1.23 OR 4.92M people in 3 years
2 - 2.78 - Second time
NET LOSS - 0.85M OR 3.4M people in 3 years
3 - 2.15 - Third time
NET LOSS - 0.63M OR 2.52M people in 3 years
4 - 1.71 - Final
NET LOSS - 0.44M OR 1.76M people in 3 years
>>128487918
It would make sense for them to not like you if they were ruled by natives, not the king.
>>128487986
>>128487706
I will find a better color.
>>128488036
DH?
1 armor and 2 mot for nato
12 inf and a lt general for warsaw pact
>>128488241
Not thatone, the meme one.
>>128488276
Which one? for V2?
>>128488509
no, the one for EU4
>>128488509
Yes
this one https://github.com/simsulla/nwomod/issues
>>128488568so East vs West DLC for HoI4?
>>128488175
In 12 years of swedish rule, besides the 12 million dead, 10% of the remaining population became protestant, despite they starting with no protestant pops. The bonus to conversion of animists is really effective.
>>128488019
I'm more surprised they have industry with just 11% literacy.
It's not really a big issue.
>>128486031
Shitposter
How do we deal with the gommunist problem on /gsg/?
>>128488926
we wait. for them to grow up
>>128487659
HPM, I tried some basic map editing and this is the result. I don't even know how it reverted to the old map, or why it's blocky. What am I doing wrong?
>>128488926
Bring out your icepicks.
>>128488926
Reminder that there is a literal Chinese communist here
>>128488926
You stop bringing up politics so you dont get triggered when people disagree with you
>>128489015
You mean the ghost lakes or the wrong provinces? I'm not sure what you were trying.
>>128488175
2 birds with one stone
change afro brazilian with malagasy
25 115 44 with 87 164 95
>>128488704
can you show craftsmen pops from countries like germany and the uk in that 1920s test game?
>>128488704
IRL they had a big industry, ammo factories, steel mills and shipyards
also the first railway in Italy (for royal use tho)
>>128488175
HPM, I'm Yugoslav anon, I didn't catch your final response last night but I saw it today.
There wasn't a problem with implementing the suggestions I made before, because I didn't advocate making core-removal decisions between Yugoslavia and all affected GPs, just with Italy, which itself had shaky claims to the lands it shares cores on with Yugoslavia.
My specific suggestions were to remove Istria and the one Italian core in Croatia as a necessity for forming Yugoslavia. This is both because those regions are multiethnic and so not necessarily considered initially as a core part of Yugoslavia, and so the player doesn't need to attack Italy to gain it if Italy forms and takes it before you can (which regularly occurs). I also suggested that, if Yugoslavia formed with Albanian territory in its sphere, Yugoslavia simply absorb Albania (although not gain Albanian as an accepted culture) in initial formation.
I then suggested a decision which Yugoslavia's sphere master or Yugoslavia itself could take which would start negotiations with Italy over cores. The options were a lump-sum payment from Italy to Yugoslavia/Yugoslavia's puppet master which resulted in Italy retaining full cores on Istria and the dalmatian coast; a land exchange whereby Italy keeps north Istria while Yugoslavia gains southern Istria and the Dalmatian coast (in this option Yugoslavia/its puppet master also pays a moderate sum to Italy); and a third option where Yugoslavia/its puppet master pays a large sum to Italy in return for Italy revoking its cores on the Dalmatian coast and all of Istria. Any of these options could be rejected by Italy, and the decision could only be taken before Mass Politics, as I reasoned after Mass Politics it would have been considered impossible to construct a treaty such as this.
I'll reiterate that, at the time, you agreed that these were good suggestions and that you would implement them at a future date.
>>128488926
force a book about economics into their face
