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>>127365009
You fucked up

Sage
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>No discord link
You had one job OP.
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>>127365009
>>127365095
Yes you did
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we have thread
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Post skill
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Is there any greater pain than going against 2 octobrushes and 2 eliters as a splatterscope?
If I attempt to bomb the octobrushes, I get sniped.
If I attempt to even get in the firing range of the eliters and shoot, I get brushed
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>>127365539
I've never seen lag this bad, holy shit
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>>127365539
>these shots and movements
l-lewd!
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>>127365539
so that's how aerosprays get eliter range
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>>127365539
I want a shotgun now.
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>>127366060
dynamo senpai
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>>127366179
That's too long range. More like pre-nerf Splat Rollers.
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>>127365539
why does this webm look so much smoother than when i play ?
doent the wii u lock fps ?
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I can't think of a good name help
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>>127366570

Your mum
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>tfw
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>>127366570
Doyle
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>>127365539
Had a match where an inkstriker glided across the map.
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FUCK CALLIE
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>>127367128

YES!
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I wish Nintendo would just release videos of the musicians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-13CQUlcPQ
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>>127367749
I wish Nintendo would just release this
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>kill myself in a full enemy team kill
>team mates cant be bothered to advance
>spam BOOYAH because I cant spam CMON
>enemies respawn and kill my whole team
>I walk back alone since theyre all dead
there needs to be different voice commands, no one fucking knows what BOOYAH means
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>>127368212
My dick
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Marie gets a little messy!
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>>127368545

To me and Nice are much clearer but we need a Danger callout. Don't know what they could do for a fourth
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>>127368984
Something like charge or push
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WHYS THERE A LEVEL 50 IN MY B- ROOM AND WHY IS HE GOING 0/10 ON MY TEAM
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>>127369148

To me fulfils that role
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>>127368984
To me
Nice job
Danger ahead
Retreat
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>>127369216

Testing re-rolls and filling slots
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>>127369236
how? That just means people should come to you. Maybe you just killed the entire team and died. Then you could say that
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>>127369326

As the game says Don't Retreat

>>127369445

Replace to me with Safe and then use one direction for Charge
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Paint the base!
Help Me!
Hooray!
Stay Away
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>>127368212
>zink inkbrush
>zinkbrush

heh
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Just tried out the Sloshing Machine for the first time.

How does anyone actually play or get kills with this shit?
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>>127369772
Jump to me!
Danger ahead
Nice shot!
Fuck you moon people!
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>>127370179
The same way they get kills with the Hydra.
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>>127370179
it's an acquired taste. 1 direct->1 indirect is the easiest way, though you can also hit someone with 3 indirects sloshed over a splash wall if they're too dumb to realize what's going on. run some ink recovery/bomb range so you can spam your splat bombs often.
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>>127370179
>>127370526
additionally you have to take advantage of the terrain and stick to fighting people close to cover or directly below you so you can hit them without them being able to hit you back. peeking out from behind walls tends to work too.
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>>127369772
Watch out!
Cmon!
Booyah!
Let's rush!
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>>127370793
>peeking out from behind walls
>in Lagtoon
hahahah enjoy your deaths
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>>127370179

Put some Damage up on it and you're basically kill stealing or weakening foes to such a degree they either retreat or get one shot by your allies or die from stepping in your ink
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man tower control is a shitfest
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She's actually team love as well.
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>>127369772
Hey!
Listen!
Look!
Watch Out!
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>>127371079
Your a shit
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>>127371079
Muh poor k/d ratio
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>>127371862
Where is this from?
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>>127371862
What does this say?
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>>127371862
english please
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>>127371862
Going to guess
>Time played
>Win Rate
>Total KD
>Average KD per game
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>>127371981
Category: All
Rule: Tower Control
Stage: All
Weapon: All

Win/Loss 141 Wins 77 Losses
Win/Loss Ratio: 64.7%
K/D Total: 999 kills / 1676 deaths
K/D Average 4.6 kills / 7.7 deaths
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>>127371042
I'm running 3x damage up sub and a bomb range up main.
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Bullying Woomys is this Octo's favourite thing.
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>>127371862
Where do I get that ?
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>that one retard that thinks tower control is turf war
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>>127372514

Switch those around
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>>127373016
>That one retard who doesn't make sure the map's most important areas are covered in his team's color so your team can maintain map control.
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Marie is the best
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FACT:

The cutest thing in Splatoon is the Splatling win animation
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>>127372909
I don't know. I found it scrolling through japanese Splatoon sites.
http://splatoon-club.xyz/2016/01/post-123
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>>127373472
woomy hugs :3
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>Teammates that rush into enemy territory alone
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>>127371042
I thought you can't die to standing in ink.
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>>127373472
Fact: I insta-mained them just for that.
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>>127373551
>teammates that rush into enemy territory thinking that they're helping by "camping" the enemy
>while enemy has objective and is quickly approaching to victory

Cough Tia
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>>127373551
>they're wearing 3 quick respawn and thinking to themselves LOOK HOW MUCH I'M HELPING
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>>127373582
Can't kill you, but if it lowers your health an enemy hit that does 99.99 will.
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>>127373891
"Look, I'm trading with an enemy. Helping!"
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>>127373387
>that one retard who goes 0/0 as a blaster in tower control because he doesnt even come close to the tower
Im not against covering, but this guy was painting every corner of unimportant areas
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>>127373167
gear with Damage Up as its main isn't fresh
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>>127373545
I found it
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/ikakiroku-supurato-unno-zhan/id1050484090?mt=8
It's a fucking phone app though.
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When woomies cum, do they squirt ink everywhere? Is it the same color as their hair?
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>>127374146
Yes, and yes.
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>>127374105
so it's just an app you enter all your shit in after every match?
thought the gooks found some secret shit on splatnet
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>>127374105
I thought japs all used flip phones.
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>>127374146
Use your imagination and don't ask stupid questions.
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>>127374279
Seems like it. There's a similar thing for Pokemon Ranked Online Matches.
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>>127374280

Old information, hasn't been true for years now
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>>127374105
Oh yes, I saw that icon. Didn't realise what it was.
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>>127374050
>>127373891
Buttmad charger/squelcherfags detected. Because playing like a pansy in a safe corner yet getting the same amount of kills is so much better.
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>>127374319

Don't ever reply to me, unless you are contributing to the thread.
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>>127374926
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>>127373714
Fact: They're fucking awesome weapons in general
even Hydra
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>>127375115
Why isn't there a crutchmeme variant of the splatling and the bucket like there are for standard shooters/rollers/chargers/blasters?
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>>127374279
I wish Splatoon actually let you look up all your play statistics. Frustrating that all it gives is inked turf.
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>>127375223
zink mini arguably
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>>127375242
this, splatoon has so much potential for rich stats but NoA is really dropping the ball
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>>127375223
>Zink Mini Splatling
>Tri-Slosher
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>>127375242
yeah it's pretty shit, would be nice to look back at past scoreboards and have stats about k/d or tower/rainmaker distance
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>>127375242
>which weapon killed you the most
>which subweapon killed you the most
>which special killed you the most
>same as above 3 but for each weapon
>which weapons have you encountered the most?
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>>127375396
Is this actually NoJ or just dedicated fans?

r/splatoon, Hank from Nintendome need to get on things.
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>>127375396
what exactly is this showing? The skill range of users for each weapon?
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>>127375561
i'm pretty sure this is run by fans
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>>127375396
>96 deco most used by S99 and tentatek/octo most used in general in S+
what a fucking surprise
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>>127375507
that would only lead to people unneccesarily complaining more about weapons/specials that are good at kill potential but lack in other areas
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>>127375576
Which weapons are overused by which rank players.
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>>127375353
>>127375397
Those aren't nearly as bad as the e-liter or the krak-on roller.
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>>127374050
I'm trading with three people, if you can't handle the last one it's your own damn fault
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>>127374105
>>127374279
>>127375242
>>127375396

Okay, time for the big reveal.

http://stat.ink/ is a *ridiculously amazing* and complex site by a Japanese user fetus-hina. It uses screen recording software called IkaLog that, if you have your Wii U hooked up through your computer, can analyze battles and provide detailed stats (example: https://stat.ink/u/ikameshi/236422) of when in a match you died, by what means, number of kills/deaths, stats of all players on both teams, etc. The code's all on GitHub as well, for stat.ink as well as IkaLog:
https://github.com/fetus-hina/stat.ink
https://github.com/hasegaw/IkaLog

I do manual data entry via a (Japanese only for now) Android app called イカレコ (IkaReco, SquidRec) where I can enter the battle type/rules, map, K/D, and points scored. It works with stat.ink via an API key provided by the site and uploads your data (e.g. https://stat.ink/u/frozenpandaman - I obviously just started using it, obviously).
IkaReco: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syanari.merluza.ikarec&hl=ja

Then there's the sister site https://fest.ink/, which provides detailed stats about Splatfests and shows global short and long-term winning percentages (example: https://fest.ink/6), of the Squid vs. Octopus JP Splatfest). fest.ink does not have an English-language interface, but stat.ink does, accessible through the menu bar at the top.
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>>127375396
krak-on roller confirmed supercrutch
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>>127375396
Last time this pic showed up here people spazzed out about S infinity.
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>>127375721
maybe so but how well they ink turf+bubbler makes them a big threat that's not the hardest to use
slosher deco is more crutch than the tri though
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>>127375561
probably fan-made, I do wish there were some official stats. splatoon's meta trends have been so wide and varied it would be really cool to see some gear profiles.
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>S rank teammate with tentatek ss literally went 0/9 in a 5 minute game
We were 2 points from winning. How can someone be that bad?
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>>127375683
Maybe because those weapons that are good at "kill potential" are crutches, anon.
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>>127375879
About time!
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>>127375879
Here's a demo video of IkaLog (bad, but all I could find): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYBYpwjk2F4

Also sorry for not proofreading - some of my sentences are repetitive or badly-phrased.
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>>127376056
There's more important things in this game than just getting kills, but I know you're shitposting so whatever.
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>>127375879
Finally, someone who understands how stat.ink works
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>>127375714
So it's all about how it's bad that the higher weapons are overused? What is S infinity then?
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>>127375904
is it really? never used it but it seems like landing 2 consecutive standard sloshes would be much harder than 2 tri-sloshes with how slow the thing fires.
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>>127374721

>Kills

Oh, is there a team deathmatch mode I'm not aware of?
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>>127375879
that's pretty cool, does it do all that stuff based just on the video input?

just wish i could read what anything said
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>>127376232
>it's all about how it's bad
No, it's just statistics.
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>>127376223
There are, but the way to get to the important things are kills.

But go on, keep justifying your crutch. You can believe that you're not a shitter without it all you want.
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>>127376231
What do you mean? Has it been discussed before? Never heard of it and stumbled across it last night and was utterly blown away.

I'm thinking of requesting to the app developer to make an English version.

>>127376389
From what I can tell, yes. Don't have a capture card or anything so I can't test it myself (apart from manual data entry via the app I mentioned.)

The site has an English language feature which translates about 80% of stuff you need to read.

>>127376232
>>127376395
Yeah, I also have no clue what S infinity is supposed to be.
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>>127376395
I thought when you said overuse it was implied to be a "bad" thing. Is it only taking into account japanese players or any players they run into globally?
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>>127376326
it's more because wall+kraken which is a pretty killer combo, as weird as it is on slosher
anything with kraken catches the eyes of people wanting easy wins because invincible squid of death
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>>127375879
I once watched a Japanese streamer during their last Splatfest Whenever he got splatted I heard "Ya" and when ever he got a splat I heard "Gotcha". It sounded like an automated female voice.
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>>127376504
I don't even play weapons that best at killing anon. I play fun weapons. There's nothing wrong with playing weapons suited for killing though, long as you play the role on your team and perform well at it, so you don't hold the team back.
>crutch
>shitter
>people who focus on kills with weapons good at it
Keep spewing out buzzwords like you're posting on /v/ anon. I'm sure someone will get upset if you try hard enough at this shitposting.
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Also.

Squad battle, anyone? Twin or quad, doesn't matter.

NNID frozenpandaman
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>>127376578
i meant for the github page and the software itself, kinda wanna give this thing a try myself
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>>127376819
Sent
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>>127376747
That's likely a software that works with niconico douga to provide a comments-to-speech feature. So, people reacting in stream, and then it vocalizes that.

>>127376937
Ah, yeah. If I had a capture card I'd figure it out and translate it. I should look into getting one but I don't have the best setup. Still might translate the documentation if I have time.
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>>127375396
>rapid deco in the same league as garbage like the range blaster and hydra splatling

best blaster gets no love
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>>127376819
>frozenpandaman
eli?
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>>127377013
if you could that'd be pretty great, don't really trust google translate with technical stuff like this
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>>127376819
I'm down to squad up I already got you added
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squad going up, i assume we have 4.

>>127377086
yes?
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>>127377230
Fuck you.
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>>127377230
been a while
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>>127377230
>>127377086
Fourth now? Or he didn't show up?
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>>127377135
Worst case if you screw up is that it doesn't work - so try it with Google Translate, I'd say.

>>127377314
thanks

>>127377348
yah.
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I've had this typed out all day but I sort of got pulled away at the last moment before I posted it
Sorry
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>>127376578
I've just stumbled upon it before immediately signed up but had no idea what to do about it other than wonder what ikalog is.
I used fest.ink to follow the japanese splatfests since mountain food vs sea food and was amazed that it was able to predict the winning team halfway through. This kind of thing pretty much breaks everything about Splatfest since all anyone needs is to wait until 4 hours before the end of Splatfest to pick the leading team and coast to royalty.

I can only guess but S infinity might just be their term for achieving S+99.
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>>127376595
mostly japanese I suppose and a few others who might have known about it.
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>>127377709
I just pick what I like and encourage others do the same. It should all be for fun, anyway.
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>>127377493
The best
The greatest
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I play as Spaghetti cause I'm a by
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>towers TC doesn't have added stage elements on the side

fucking why
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>>127375396
Here's the top twenty weapons with the bars normalised so you can compare their rank distribution more easily.
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>>127378806
nearest neighbor pls
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I'm in love /ink/
FINALLY got to try out octobrush nouveau. Won every match despite being rusty, consistently scored best coverage for team at 1200 and up, and constantly had best k/d ratio for team, the lowest at 5/2 and the highest at 10/2. I've always loved brushes, but felt frustrated at their lack of 'options'. This thing just clicks with me.
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>>127378884
Good point.
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LUNA BLASTERS ARE CANCER
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>>127378898

I know that feel bro. Octobrush Nouveau just works magic.
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>>127379063
>that disproportionately high usage of splash-o-matic in shitter ranks

what is people's fascination with that gun, i've literally never seen one contribute in a ranked match. even rapid deco is a better choice for suction rush.
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>>127379260
Apparently not as much as Splash-o-matic
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continuing with the new year's traditions, today we have a mmmmen! looks like he was just playing a round of hanetsuki, a new year's game kind of like badminton with no net. you can find tons of cute designs for the hagoita (paddles)!
being able to keep the hane (shuttlecock) in the air for a long time means you'll be free of, uh... mosquitoes for the coming year? i suppose that would be nice!

p.s. the mark on his face means he lost!
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>>127379342
Sees it in Turf War
Uses it everywhere.

It's the new Krak-On Roller
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>>127379342
Maybe they just think it looks cool, the design does stand out a little compared to most of the other guns.
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>>127379481
>speech impediment manmenmi
>it isn't a manmenmi
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>>127379570
Aerospray RG
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Anybody wanna squad?
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>>127379260
B-but I use the Luna Blaster ;_;

I've used it before it was cool with the Neo.
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>>127379838
Me
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Star vs Moon Splatfest?
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i love callie
i love her so much
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>>127380264
Add DLink00
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>>127380151
>Implying the stock Luna isn't even worse
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>>127380462

I already have you added
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>>127380267
This one is better for pure rivalry
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>>127380452

Same here anon
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the n-zap 89 is broken
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>>127379260
just a little
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>>127380151
-Treebag
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>>127380547
Stuck on a turf war game
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Mama mia those Maries!
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>>127380821
man I'm so tired of seeing the same shitty fanart

please get a hobby or something
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Luna Blasters singlehandedly destroyed the tower control pole dance game that I rode to B+
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>>127380452
>>127380598
She does have a very nice bottom.
I'm allowed to say that, right?
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>>127380821
no need to be so rude
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fuck the japs.
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>>127380898
Its almost as if there's less than 3000 images of them.
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>>127381001
shit
>>127380898
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>>127380939

>are you allowed to state facts

Yes
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>>127381141
but that doesn't let the dumb fetishists that are focused on one fanart exclusive aspect of them wave their shitty vanilla normalfag tastes in everyone's face
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>>127381162
No but would Callie be offended if I told her her bottom was nice?
Or Marie if I said her titties were nice as well?
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Why are there so many Mariefags when Callie is clearly superior?
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>>127381369
Ho, you might be in the wrong general my friend.
If girls with boobies triggers you you could always post lolis are some weak shit too.
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>>127381745
Because they complete each other
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hold on, gotta block this lagging jap. be right back
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>>127382112
Lag shouldn't make someone better at beating you; you're the one that's lagging
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>>127381745
there aren't, the few there are just are very vocal like this autism victim >>127381841
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Was that ThatsSo's clan we went up against, without the ThatsSo?
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Lost connection, did people leave? I'm recreating, I guess.
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>>127382267
Trash anyway
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>>127381369
what?
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>>127382238
my internet's fine. a camping player who won't die with 10 shots to the face needs to be blocked.
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>>127382251
Eat my dick Calliefag.
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>>127382267
why stay with a team that lets you start and occasionally top score, when you could put yourself in the cuckshed after losing your team the first game?
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>>127382267
>hurr durr camping is an advanced strategy
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>>127381745
I don't know, when I ask them, their reasoning is weird with shit like "she's a bitch" or "she insults people a lot"
But we have to respect their tastes no matter how mystifying they are
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I wish I could befriend Callie's superior cousin, Marie!
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>>127382473
You say that, but the Japs are just playing on a higher level because they're local to the servers. If anything you're the one that's LAGging behind.
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The only weapon more annoying than ______ is ______.
Well?
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>>127382697
it wasn't a japanese player. and what the fuck are you talking about? there are no servers. it's peer-to-peer
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>>127382648
Some people prefer a strong abrasive woman over a dainty tart that never takes anything seriously. Marie would be tough to live with, but Callie would just prove annoying.
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>>127382925
luna, luna neo
fuck the luna neo. Most brain dead weapon in the game.
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>>127382648
this picture but with a condom when
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>>127382936
>there are no servers
There is a host though.
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>>127382925
Luna Blaster.
E-Liter.
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>>127382954
Marie rarely takes things seriously either.
It's just more flippant than juvenile for her.
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>>127382936
>Wasn't a Japanese player
>>127382112
Right
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>>127383053
yes, but the lobby had no japanese players.
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>>127383053
Has nothing to do with combat.
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>>127382925
jap

laggy jap
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>>127381745
I like her design more, and I like wry characters more than permanently upbeat characters.
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So burst bombs are objectively the best sub, right? Makes you wonder why they were given to E-Liters.
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>>127382925
splattershot, tentatek splattershot
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>>127383235
that wasn't me.
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>>127382697
This, I've watched a Japanese JUMP over a charger shot pull a 90 and e-liter quick scope the player who shot at them in one fluid motion.

It was literally the most impressive thing I ever saw.
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>>127383381
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brb.
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>>127383264
Wat?
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>>127383381
Then why the fuck are you chiming in, talking about how laggy non-japs are on your great Internet, when we were obviously talking about laggy japs?
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>>127383587
...What's unclear about what I said?
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SOFT CALLIE
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>>127383723
>callie
wrong sister.
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>>127383315
>best sub
that would be Splash Wall from the amount of praise it gets for fitting into /ink/'s playstyle. Disruptors are up there as well.
Burst Bombs are a situational sub which complement weapons with weak turfing abilities like verticality for roller brushes and immediate surroundings for chargers.
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Hey Leo, if you're in here, here's the dual-video with your Bamboozler meme team that I promised:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4j5eBT9JHo

If you're here Timsenpai and MiiMiisenpai, can you pass this along to Leo? You're in this video too.
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>>127383312
This, also I feel Callie is a case of wysiwyg. I'm convinced there would be a friendlier side to Marie if you worked hard enough to reach it. That's a little more valuable if you ask me.
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>>127383860
>>127383723
wait fuck nevermind.
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Is there a way to put a splash wall on the tower while you're riding it?
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>>127383927
haha whatever you say buddy
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>>127384050
yes
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>>127383860
Correct, Marie is the soft one.
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>>127384050
yes. google it. or maybe it was patched, but not really a bug, so i doubt it.
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>>127384050
get between the post and a solid surface, throw splash wall at solid surface. it'll land on the tower at the angle you're facing.
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>>127384050
deflect it off something back onto the tower.
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>>127384050
You can bounce Ink Walls off of walls onto the tower.
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>>127384157
stop posting this disgusting shit constantly
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>>127384180
They did patch it so it's harder to put walls on the tower.
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>>127383927

Do you have any evidence that there is anything other then what you see with Marie? If you're convinced there's something more you got to have something to back it up.
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>>127384157
Yuck, no.
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>>127383918
>Tim
>Miimii
>part of /ink/
Not anymore they ain't
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Broken lobby, I'm remaking.
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>>127384270
First time I have famm ily
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>>127384454
did they migrate to squidboards
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>>127384454
Why not? What?

Did Tim leave to join a lmao MLG competitive SquADs :^) :^) ???

>>127384631
Literally fuck that place. So, so toxic and cancerous, and just plain idiotic and unskilled.
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>>127384123
>>127384180
>>127384229
>>127384254
>>127384264

Thanks
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>>127384631
>>127384680
Basically, they just circlejerk with their own clan in discord now
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>>127383918
Oh, thanks dude. Was wondering when this was going to pop up. Scarth let me know ;)
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best girl
best girl
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>>127384270
don't be so hard on marie
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>>127384341
Nothing other than that their interactions are much less critical when they reprise their roles as Agents 1 and 2. That's all I have to assume that Marie is at least capable of being less Marie, albeit she might just be being professional about the situation. They are acting in as overwatch in warfare after all.
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I have been spending all my free time on this game since I got it for Christmas. I've played like 60+ hours and I'm A rank now, and I don't think I have ever once played on the mall level
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>>127382568
>Preferring to be part of a team where you can top score as opposed to one that is generally better than you
Why
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>>127385106
you're not missing much
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>>127384903
The prettiest the kindest the softest the strongest the flattest the bestest.
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>>127385235
why include "the flattest" in a list of positive traits
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>>127384741
I'd like to play with them again sometime. They were fun to play with, and against. I just want to avoid the circlejerking.
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