fcrawl beta has been released: https://bpaste.net/raw/fdaa75a90151 See >>126941854 for a guide on getting it running.
IVAN has updated to version 5.4: https://github.com/Attnam/ivan/releases
Christmas *band competition: http://angband.oook.cz/competition.php?showcompo=183
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to play: http://pastebin.com/dyPKMEBv
Rogue Nexus – Cataclysm Online and more: http://roguenex.us
ADoM pastas: http://pastebin.com/VaH5UVN8
AliensRL pasta: http://pastebin.com/20ZTFzwZ
Angband pasta: http://pastebin.com/j8SSFvCT
Brogue pasta: http://pastebin.com/nkUaca3N
Cataclysm DDA pasta: http://pastebin.com/UAqhKZfc
Caves of Qud pasta: http://pastebin.com/0ExECmUn
DCSS pasta: http://pastebin.com/6Nz5cuww
DF Adventure Mode pasta: http://pastebin.com/7HB7Tc1y
DoomRL pasta: http://pastebin.com/2vZsvsfD
Dungeons of Dredmor pasta: http://pastebin.com/t3eteBsE
Elona pasta: http://pastebin.com/tU9qkAqt
InCaveAd pasta: http://pastebin.com/HeDX5yNK
Incursion pasta: http://pastebin.com/Q87xYnBq
Infra Arcana pasta: http://pastebin.com/jMb7fZfN
IVAN pasta: http://pastebin.com/GnJeGWTT
MaiDenSnow Eve pasta: http://pastebin.com/BJFyCUnS
NetHack pasta: http://pastebin.com/XRp5mBhz
Omega pasta: http://pastebin.com/0vkDNuyX
One Way Heroics pasta: http://pastebin.com/jFh3nrxy
PosChengband: http://pastebin.com/ZLZZz45j
Prospector pasta: http://pastebin.com/DjPrRQu8
Sil pasta: http://pastebin.com/NRyD5jtt
ToME 4 pasta: http://pastebin.com/GVDJksuM
UnReal World pasta: http://pastebin.com/QfgkYkNA
Other roguelikes without a pasta (go make one!):
Forays to Norrendin: http://forays.github.io/
Quest for the Unicorn: http://www.elf-emulation.com/rcs/unicorn5/index.html
Demon: http://demon.ferretdev.org/
The Ground Gives Way: http://www.thegroundgivesway.com/
Old thread: >>127003024
>>127165107
I just wish to say that I wholeheartedly support this list.
do ur best
Fucking assholes not dropping fucking corpses
What is this shit
>>127166038
WHO CARES ABOUT THEIR CORPSES?
>>127166231
I have a deep love for corpses of deities, anon, and you will not judge me.
>>127166330
CEASE AT ONCE
YOU INVITE MY WRATH
>>127166038
you can always go into the edit files and add the DROP_CORPSE flag to any monster you please.
Of course it doesn't *guarantee* a drop but it makes it possiburu. Also not sure how balanced the corpses would be or anything, since I'm guessing there isn't code specifically for them, but I don't think it will cause a crashbug. Probably.
>>127166038
They don't drop corpses, you'll have to play a mimic for a chance to be one.
>>127166468
A lot of things don't drop corpses, like undead, demons (no cyberdemon dream for me), etc.
But I thought the Olympians did, since they're P's.
Ah well, maybe I'm having shit luck or something. In any case there isn't anyone else to switch to, cause I'm commiting unique genocide at this point. Soon there will be none left.
>>127166038
how many and which of them dropped their artifacts? Pics of the dropped items and properties? I think it's 30% chance normally.
Babby here.
IVAN, LIVAN, or CLIVAN?
>>127166905
IVAN ALWAYS 100%
>>127166721
I *think* that's all I got from them, but then again something might've been left behind if I had to bail or something.
>>127166721
Check the artifact file anon
>tfw got killed by panlord while ascending 15 runes
on the bright side, I've finally got 15 runes, all previous attempts resulted in dieing before this moment
>>127167325
>activation *Recharging*
that's pretty strong
>>127169691
Yeah, especially since the timeout is only 15 turns.
>>127169479
dieing?
>>127169479
Don't you give up anon, you will surely accomplish your goal.
>>127169479
ripgratulations
>>127169691
also 30% spellpow is obviously insane as well
>>127165625
I'd probably add more to the this now that I've thought about it for more than 2 minutes. This was a fun thought experiment.
>Stat loss restores on exp AND slowly over time. No panscumming if your stats got fucked in tomb!
>Transient muts too
>Corrosion decreases a point every few turns rather than in clumps.
>Remove felid extra lives. Give them damage reduction on attacks that would deal more than 50% of their maximum HP or something. Maybe just give them better HP instead.
>Also they can leap again because that was fun, how is multiple lives fun compared to jumping fuck you chris only you would find dying more than once fun
>Less sword unrandarts, more everything else unrandarts
>Rebalance some weapons so that not everyone goes into the lategame with dtrident/eveningstar/doublesword or 3sword/gmace/bardiche
>make bucklers require more exp, add more shields so you don't have 3 fucking choices
>add different tiers of helms, gloves and boots with encumbrance penalties to go with the enchantment thing
>heavier helmets, gauntlets and boots have different egos than light ones
>To go in line with the glow thing, mummies have no glow cost from spells because theycast spells via gestures rather than speaking them aloud so they don't spill raw magic into the air
>Corona is a buff/debuff that makes a temporary TSO halo on target, making everything easier to hit and revealing invis dudes.
>darkness makes a powerful stealth boosting umbra on you instead of reducing LoS. Reducing LoS is powerful, but it feels really metagamey and isn't very fun.
>>127166905
CLIVAN for maximal bullshit
>>127165625
cleave + reach is too good.
>>127173685
what if only cleave at reach range, not adjacent
>>127171214
>unique monster: the walking pestilence
>a pile of bugs disguised as a man in a robe and hood
>special ability "swarm"
>like haunt but with mid level bugs
>hitting it spawns high level bugs around it like TRJ
>can cause fear
>background: wizard who liked bugs turned into bugs
>someone tells me they like roguelikes
>i get hyped to finally meet someone who likes roguelikes in real life and have a conversation
>oh shit really? i've been playing pcb recently its a *band variant blah blah
>go on a little excited monologue for a few seconds
>'so what do you play?'
>well i've been playing rogue legacy
this is what i wanted to prevent all along
god fucking damn it
>>127173991
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>127173991
>talking to people irl
you knew the risks
>>127173685
I'd have to see it to believe it honestly. 26 skill for min delay on a 14 base damage, 2H weapon is so fucking awful that I have a hard time believing that reach cleave would be too good. At this point, I'm a little surprised they haven't removed scythes yet.
>>127171214
Just play a different game. Crawl is dull and over-streamlined.
>>127174475
I play all sorts of games anon! I even enjoy them for their unique traits even if I don't like certain mechanics in them.
>>127174319
The thing is that it will have 2 brands for free, and it would still be able to receive another one.
>>127175464
2 brands that don't increase damage on an absolute SHIT base weapon. You turn into a whirlwind of death, but the kind of situations where that would be good are inherently bad. I'm curious to see how it'd really turn out honestly.
>>127176164
With crawl not being all that tactical to begin with I think having silly fun ways to play is pretty nice.
I haven't been on /rlg/ since... I think Crawl .14 release. Has there been any good new entries, or is everyone still playing the same 3 roguelikes?
>>127176904
People here play Crawl or Poscheng for the most part.
>>127176904
Read the thread.
>>127176904
CDDA died out so only >>127177002 remains
>>127176904
Poschengbad is the new hotness. We had a brief but intense love affair with Infra arcana. People play ADOM sometimes, and every now and again we'll have some demon discussion. Someone posted MaiDen snow even and that was fun for a time.
>>127177010
Except the occasional anon playing dynahack, sil or elona, nearly everyone plays either crawl or poscheng
>>127177217
I don't think cdda died out, there's still a lot of knowledge held by posters, but they're either waiting for the itch to play it to reform after playing it into the ground, or answering questions with advices
>>127177235
>Someone posted MaiDen snow even and that was fun for a time.
It's too hard because I always end up fapping and then lose interest.
>>127177002
>>127177217
Well, better than when everyone was playing nothing but Elona, at least. What happened to CDDA? Did that moron Granade finally quit?
>>127177010
I have, all 30 posts of it + the old thread, which was Poscheng/crawl/strangely enough DoD, which would've caused the usual thread downies to smash their modems with hammers a year or two ago. That still doesn't tell me what's gone on with roguelikes since then.
>>127177494
Oh and you missed the ABSOLUTE PINNACLE OF ENTERTAINMENT AND BROTHERHOOD that was the mumo challenge. Truly I pity you, for those were some serious fun times.
>>127177494
>what's gone on with roguelikes since then
IVAN, Angband, AND Nethack all got updates, which is pretty fucking crazy.
>>127177674
I was around for the mumo challenge, so either I came back for a bit, or it was done even further back. My roommate and I both did it, and I had never seen him tard rage so hard.
>>127177706
An IVAN update? Jesus christ, what's it been, a decade?
>>127177494
there was some hot infra arcana action
personally I hope IA Dev releases the new version soon so I have an excuse to play it for a few months again
>>127178025
I was never very good at Infra Arcana, as much as I enjoyed it when I did play it. I've mostly been playing DoomRL and DDA for the past few months, waiting for an URW update.
One day, we may.
>>127177843
Dicksman started doing streams of it that were really fun and it ended up getting really popular. Many people in the thread managed to grab runes. Implojin and a mystery man even won it!
>>127178151
tbqh I never played IA until dick started streaming it, then I realized it was basically lovecraftian diablo 2 spinter cell roguelike edition
>>127178307
I didn't manage to grab runes, as I had quit DCSS for quite some time only returning for the challenge to a bunch of new crap, but I got a lot farther than my roommate, who would die to cockroaches and stop talking for the rest of the night.
Speaking of thread people, I really miss Bastard. Even when he got a bit less shit at games, the RNG would facefuck him harder than anyone else.
>>127165287
Wait IVAN is still getting updates? Is this like a community project or something?
>>127178540
>I really miss Bastard
Me too.
>>127178540
I think he posted a few months back. But yeah, he had a tendency to get into weird situations. His fooBrand deaths in NetHack were pretty fun.
>>127178481
>lovecraftian diablo 2 spinter cell roguelike edition
what the fuck am I reading
>>127180681
hasturhasturhasturhasturhasturhastur
>>127180681
I don't know but I like it.
>>127178540
>the RNG would facefuck him harder than anyone else.
>>127180571
>he had a tendency to get into weird situations
That's why he was always my favorite namefag.
He only seemed to post when things had gone hilariously wrong like all of his equipment disintegrating in ADOM.
>>127181324
>pic
oh man i'd forgotten about that
that thread was great
Just hitting things with my fifty pound butt.
Spells aren't as good as pendragon's, and I'll miss my boot slot and vampiric weapon, but I can't complain about Baphomet's damage.
>>127182956
http://myanimelist.net/anime/5025/Dengeki_Oshioki_Musume_Gootaman:_Gootaman_Tanjou-hen
Brogue
Pick up a key, watch the alter descend into the ground as the trap sets the room on fire.
>I don't believe this shit.
I swear this game makes me think of Dirk the Daring shenanigans in deaths.
>>127182956
>Baphomet
>Your Butt (12d13)
What
>>127183645
There is almost always something on a vault level that might help you deal with the key trap.
>>127183646
It's aheadbutt.
>>127182956
>filename
dang the dark maul is good with oka buffs
FPS games take more skill than roguelikes.
>>127182956
amazing
>>127184908
tru
>>127184908
Agreed.
>>127184908
ayyy
which fps games
>>127186030
Quake, Unreal, Turok, Painkiller, Blood, Shadow Warrior
>>127184908
Yeah obviously. That's why we retired to this ezmodo freewin genre in the first place...we just couldn't handle the pressure
>>127184908
Most good actiony games take more skill than RPGs
>>127186030
Call of Duty, Halo, Far Cry.
>>127184908
RTS takes more skill than FPS
>>127186030
skyrimjob
>>127173991
All of my friends play roguelites, thankfully none of them call them roguelikes because they've seen my play roguelikes. One of them plays actual roguelikes occasionally but he's terrible. At least he plays DCSS console instead of tiles.
>>127187210
>all of my friends play roguelites
The term is 'both'
Are there any good videos of someone play DCSS with commentary? I like to listen to something while I play and I'd like to listen to someone play so I can learn to play better.
>>127187539
but there are three of them
>>127187593
dcks
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsutlHZM6kCXon9wAn_jFkA
>>127187643
eh I was just kidding in any case.
I actually had a spoilertagged "jk, please forgive" but it was going to mess up the succinct flow of the post so with some trepidation I removed it and hoped not to give actual offense
>>127187789
Why do you even care about offending me, I'm a shitposting faggot.
So are you, for that matter.
I'm trying to figure out a western gunslinger character in DCSS. A ranger with a hand crossbow for sure, leather armor only, high dodging, but what race would be good?
I'm partial to mummies.
>>127187789
Now you've ruined it you bleeding heart faggot.
>>127187917
>He uses ranged for anything except throwing huge rocks or needlesCentaur, even if dodging is -3
>>127184908
but not nearly as much tactics.
skill=/=tactics
>>127187917
Kobold
I'm gonna do it
I'm gonna play a Death Sword
>>127187917
spriggan.
Mummies are fucking gay
>>127188589
>>127187917
>a hand crossbow
It's bad. Use an arbalest at least. Pretend it's a Winchester repeating rifle or something.
>>127176164
I just added cleaving to scythes out of pure boredom. Its meh.
>>127173832
The way cleaving works is simple, it gets up to seven enemies adjacent to you that aren't your target and deal a % of the normal damage to them. To make it cleave at reach I would have to make a new algorithm to it, like it works for gyre and whatever, however I just can't be arsed.
>>127188332
You like hurting yourself uh?
>>127187917
WDA or MDA for endgame
>DCSS freezes
>reload
>A game is already in progress using your save!
fuck you I was finally doing well
>>127190138
I read a scroll of summon monsters and died
>>127190336
It's okay, it will drop eventually and you'll be able to use your save.
>>127190434
How long?
>>127190469
It depends! If it's taking too long you can try hitting the admin of the site you're playing on on the IRC. But it usually was like 3-10 minutes for me.
>>127190469
It kicked the old instance out after ten seconds of looking at that screen while playing on console back in 2011
NIGGER SNAPPING TURTLE FUCK YOUR NIGGERNECK
>>127191885
>NIGGERNECK
>>127191885
better luck necks time
>>127191885
>>127191885
>NIGGERNECK
Jesus christ my sides anon.
>>127191885
>niggerneck
FUCK
it wasn't that funny
>>127194201
fuck you
>>127194201
What are you, a niggernecked snapping turtle?
>>127194532
Ignore snapping turtle posts
do not reply to snapping turtles
>>127194201
He's probably samefagging. If you're attuned to this place like I am, which I am not extremely proud of but hey, it is what it is, you'll recognize there's been an influx of new people lately, one of which is Italian treating this place like it's /b/ by posting tits to grab attentions out his posts when he asks something and unrelated images so we can blame him for everything.
It's annoying.
I mean I don't wanna sound like a prude here but we don't really use nigger and faggot casually as insults and post nsfw stuff
I don't want to sound like an elitist even though I probably am because I enjoy the fact we keep this general more roguelike related than non roguelike related and we're generally nice to each other and haven't got tripfags or namefags and the shitposting comes in waves when someone decides to funpost but even then we have whole threads without anything but good old roguelike discussion and when I look in some other faster /vg/ generals it makes me want to come back here. I guess I just like using a general for its intended purpose and I've never seen this one stray from its path. Plus the games are fun as hell and there is always new content so it cannot stagnate and the users all discovered paint some time ago and it's a lot of fun to watch those images.
I'm just saying: If you're new around here please try to be less loud okay? Thank you. I am sure you'll enjoy your stay a lot.
Now for the roguelike part of my post, apparently in wiznode I CAN slime one eyed Sam but it's a tricky thing. Basically I get a one in four chance to slime him and I have speed 6, which is really bad. Since he's wearing speed boots and even if I haste myself I only get speed 8, which is one tier below regular speed so he could technically attack me before I slime him. I cannot be beheaded when I'm in slimeform, so that's something but I ended up having to quaff two potions of extra healing just to check if he was getting slimed, so I think I can do that and then quaff polymorph into a human again and smash a bottle in his face while I wear reflection so Inwon't die in case he zaps finger of death.
It's risky.
>>127196689
His post was literally about roguelikes and nothing else, you nigger-loving kike.
>>127196689
the 2-3 threads before this one have been quite stagnant if you dont count the 2 paint images of paint your current character.
>>127195140
>>127196689
Great posts man, keep it up.
>>127197410
Anon, it's the first of January and yesterday was the 31st of December. What do you expect?
>>127197282
>smug anime face
I accept defeat.
>>127196689
>even if I haste myself I only get speed 8
Can't you use speed potion for more speed?
>>127196689
>>127195140
This. Just take it easy. That said to the two people I quoted, it IS fucking 4chan. So let's also take it easy there and not fucking make the mistake of jumping around and giving them tons of attention so they wanna stick around shitposting.
Reminder to take it easy. What are you fine folks playing tonight?
>>127196689
fuck you, you niggerfaggot
>>127197941
Mozilla Firefox subgame "shitpost on 4chan"
>>127197941
I'm reading a fantasy novel, with some breaks for the fcrawl beta
>>127197941
thinking about continuing my DEFE who is currently in orc, but I am inebriated and do not want to splat him.
I must not bait.
Bait is the thread killer.
Bait is the little death that brings total thread obliteration.
I will face my need to reply. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when the bait has gone past I will turn on my filters to see its path.
Where the bait has gone there will be no replies.
Only content will remain.
>>127198130
Cast lots of fireballs and regen your mana by stair dancing.
>>127198127
Aww yeah. fcrawl is really cool from what I've played. What book, if you don't mind my fasking?
>>127198280
niggerfaggot lesbian jew kike whore slut asshole shitfuck black
>>127198280
that's probably the best version of the Litany Against Fear that I've seen in a long time, anon
Actual DuneRL with content when? A waterclock would be really interesting.
>>127197941
Playing IVAN
I'll have to kill the armored for his fire rings because I have none
>>127196689
you sound like someone kicked your cunt into your eyes
>>127198280
What a wonderful coincidence.
>>127198460
Aw shucks it's nothing
I found out nethack has crysknives, even though they're pretty bad compared to, say, silver sabres but might be good for an early tourist since they get to expert in dagger. Then again a unicorn horn is even better so they're kinda shit.
>>127198696
Jeez you're pretty stacked for someone doing orc.
>>127198696
>+5 shield
>deep elf
Am I missing something here
Have you found five manuals of shield or something
Also watch out for water
>>127198460
What would you do in a DuneRL? Doesn't seem like a setting that would work that well with the genre.
>>127198280
beautiful
>>127198338
>What book
I've been rereading my old fantasy books from when I was younger, so I'm just a little embarrassed. Currently I'm working through the Valdemar books in (in-universe, not printing) chronological order. Right now I'm on Storm Rising.
I must not use my dune related trip
I will not put it on, not even to make a snarky comment
>>127198745
>crysknives
>shit
What the fuck Nethack, Dunehack when
>>127198893
I've won with a Deep Elf using a Large Shield before
But I guess at that point I had literally run out of skills to train, so I dunno
>>127198907
Wander the desert, kill invaders, finish the game by killing some sardaukar captain or something, desperately flail to stay alive while training up in the southern hemisphere
>>127198893
-2 isn't that bad, and you don't need the full 15 to really get a lot out of a shield. He probably has really low shield level considering he only has 15 shield with a +5.
Do Roguelike FPS games exist?
>>127199242
Do turn-based FPS games in which movement is on a grid of tiles exist?
>>127199242
>roguelike
>FPS
what would an FPS where you move on a granular grid look like
>>127198893
I'm not too concerned with dumping more XP into offense at the moment.
>>127199242
You can play brogue in FPS mode, but I don't know why you would.
>>127199336
your moms bed
>>127199242
definitionally no, there is no true fps roguelike
There are some things with roguelike elements that also have some fps elements. Eldritch is a minecraftlike first person dungeon exploring game with some roguelike elements. The first person horror games such as Amnesia: Dark Descent have some of the feeling of flavor and low-resources that one gets from roguelikes. The first person cthulhu games may have some of this too but I haven't played them myself. But none of these really plays like a true roguelike.
>>127199242
>>127199424
oh and I forgot to mention the first person turn based dungeon crawlers, again not really roguelikes (there are no real fps roguelikes), but it may scratch that itch for you, assuming you're asking in good faith and not just to stir controversy.
>>127199367
>bolt of fire and IOoD
Yeah that's all you need, you won't need to train any more spell skills for the rest of the game unless you want to get some utility spells (get haste and dflct/rplmissiles), get some dodging/armour/shield/long blades skill
Go find an MDA or WDA, and that's your ascension kit
>>127199424
by FPS roguelike I mean is there an FPS game that is unfair and makes you want to smash your own nuts
>>127199578
That's just a difficult game, not a roguelike. A roguelike is a turn-based RPG with movement occurring on a grid of tiles that is also permadeath and has procedurally generated elements.
>>127199578
This is bait.
>>127199564
>>127199564
I originally started training hexes because I never found repel missiles. Confuse has amazing utility when you have mana out the ass (and the spellpower to not have it miss all the time.) Cause Fear is a great panic button too. I know hexes are absolutely useless in extended though, so I'm glad I got archmagi to make them powerful without too much xp investment.
>>127199848
Get Firestorm
>>127199848
Yeah, I've never won with a deep elf that didn't worship Sif Muna, so I wouldn't know what not having spells is like.
>>127199913
firestorm is fucking useless if you're not zigrunning, bolt of fire/IOoD is almost always a better use of your time
>>127199848
Confuse works on tormentors and hellions. But you'll probably just kill them.
>>127200032
FS is alright to get in postend if you have huge Int and enhancers. You get tons of XP in postend anyways.
>>127200032
>Fire storm
>Useless
Firestorm is a free ride through extended. It isn't worth the exp investment before you have 3 or 4 runes however. Much easier to clear everything with bolt and OoD and have solid defenses.
>>127200150
>enhancers
You mean wizardry, enhancers increase spellpower
>>127199075
DDA has long worms and a desert worldven choice but eh
>>127200272
does it have personal shields and lasguns
is there an overmap that you can only enter by riding a worm
>>127200231
No, I mean enhancers. Low-power Firestorm is awful after 3 runes because it will barely scratch rF+++ monsters (which is like half of demons) and will take too long to kill even non-rF high HP targets. High power FS is fine.
>>127200419
that would explain my experiences with DEFE post-end
>>127200387
It has laserguns
No shields
>>127200668
I know, I'm shitposting
>>127200419
What about Glaciate, Tornado, Dragon's Call, and Singularity>
>>127200839
Singulo is amazing all the time, too bad it's been removed
>>127200839
>Glaciate
It has more resistance piercing, but less range. I actually liked it when I used it.
>Tornado
It's great!
>Dragons
Really strong, but every summoning monster has a chance of casting Abjuration half of the time they roll for their summoning spell, and monster Abjuration is really strong for some reason
>Singularity
Overpowered bullshit that deserved to be removed.
>>127200839
>Singularity
Normally I don't like removal, but that spell was really obnoxious. I'm glad its gone.
>>127200995
>I hated a particular thing and never used it. This means that nobody should ever be allowed to use it because I personally did not enjoy this thing.
You should be a dev.
>>127201683I am
>>127201772
Post proofs
>>127201772
put enslave back in the new version
>>127201683
I actually used it quite a bit, it was my kill spell for a few ascensions and plenty of sprint. It was a nonsense spell that shouldn't have made it through trunk. Killing unique panlords from outside of LoS shouldn't be possible. It might have been fine if monsters could have pushed passed it. As it was before it was removed, it was too strong. Once must consider that by investing translocations, you get some of the most powerful spells in the game in the form of blink and cblink as well as a good number of buffs. Why should you get the most powerful level 9 spell in addition to the best panic button and powerful buffs? I feel it really pushed mages into a situation where you either found singularity and invested translocations heavily or you actually played crawl and picked up spells based on your needs.
So, I haven't looked at Dungeon Crawl in awhile and my girlfriend told me they were dumbing it down in various ways. Can I hear someone else's opinion about where the devs are heading with it?
>>127202298
>implying you have a girlfriend
>>127202298
you should ask your girlfriend's husband, I doubt >she knows much about anything video game related
FUCKING DOUBLE KILLER BEES IN AN OPEN ROOM FUCK NO FAIR RNG
...
ahem
I meant to type "why did I get greedy and not burn more consumables to handle them safely? Dying loses ALL the consumables."
The keys are right next to one another.
fcrawl, by the way
>>127202298
>not even a new IP
>>127202432
>having trouble with two bees
>>127202298
They've been actively trying to make the game more difficult with lots of new monsters, but they also removed rMut, clarity and some other stuff for new powerful amulets. It has rubbed people the wrong way, but a lot of us resort to hyperbole and cry about the big bad removal wolf. What did she say in particular?
>>127202494
only by my own free will
i'm a strong independent @ and I don't spend no potions for nobody
>>127202432
You get a shitload of potions from clearing lair anyway. Do you really have that bad of a hoarding problem that you can't even expend a 2 to avoid certain death?
>>127202494
Have you even played fcrawl?
>>127202730
well yes and no. It was much worse when I first started. In this case, they were the last two monsters on the floor, I killed 1, was kindof low, bumped for 2 rounds with the last one, got it really low, and decided to risk it, since if I succeeded I'd clear the floor and heal to full.
So it's slightly slightly less stupid decisionmaking than my post makes it seem, but still, it was Not Smart.
>>127202545
Her complaints were along the lines of apparently how:
-every patch now is working on "pruning" things in the Blizzard sense of reducing them to nothing
-ranged was on the chopping block because they want it to be a "sometimes" option only
-Nemelex decks are completely dead
-removing amulets en masse
I know nothing about any of this because I haven't played Dungeon Crawl in quite some time, so I wanted to get /rlg/'s second opinion.
>>127203308
>-Nemelex decks are completely dead
She's dumb.
>>127203308
Most of us would agree with her on some of those points. They've been tweaking, removing and adding new things in a lot of areas, so the pruning thing is up for debate. But Yugi (while still very strong) will never be what he was, the amulet thing was really brazen and they really are considering some nonsense when it comes to ranged. Tell her to try out Pakellas and to learn how to have fun with a game that is permanently in development.
>>127203561
Nemelex wasn't actually nerfed though, they removed wonders. which was rare unless you wonderscummed, which wasn't a very reliable strategy, but war and destruction are still strong and in fact some of the cards in those decks got buffed. THe fact that escape lost CBLink is probably a strong nerf to that deck though, but you still can get Tomb and other neat shit out of it.
>>127202730
What the fuck is fcrawl? Is it a Crawl variant aside from Stone Soup?
>>127202857
Yeah, your post made it sound like you didn't teleport out of this type of situation.
>>127203734
Yes.
>>127203734
it's kindof like something between brogue and crawl that plays closer to the puzzler side of things than actual DCSS. It's a ground-up superstreamlined rewrite in python, in a single succinct file. There are instructions linked in the OP if you want to give it a whirl.
There are no gods. There are no equipment items. You only gain experience (always a whole level) from stepping on an experience tile or clearing a floor. Clearing a floor heals you to full. Resting does not heal you. There are no traps or hidden doors. There are various types of monsters and enemy attacks, but the player's options come down to exploring, meleebumping, or using one of the 7 types of potions (that do things like teleport you, heal you, damage player and all monsters in los, map the level and all monsters in it, etc). The alchemy potion lets you combine two other potions to result in a new one based on their sum (so potion 2 + potion 3 = potion 5).
It's pretty fun and very streamlined/clear. It also makes me think that regular crawl should go content heavy, and let fcrawl be the "clean design" version of the game instead of having, as one anon put it, mixed pulls between a game that started originally like nethack but now has devs moving towards cleanliness.
>that triple G room on the bottom
>>127203734
fcrawl is nothing like actual crawl aside from the names of stuff and what the monsters/potions do.
>>127204621
Good two minute post-with-image timers.
The Caves of Qud pasta really needs to be updated. There's a whole faction system and shit now.
>>127204931
then do it yourself because no one is going to do it for you nigger.
fcrawl swamp is like that one hangedman vault with all the smoke demons behind the bars, except they deal a bunch more damage and occupy the whole level.
>>127205434
rip
>>127205434
is there a server on which to play this?
>>127205884
Not as of yet.
The game doesn't have saves at this point, so that would probably be a little wierd, but I know the guy has considered getting it on roguenex.us.
It's really simple to set up though and quite a lot of fun.
>revenants in brogue
>>127206146
>only offense staff in the run was vault /firebolt
>opted for ~empowerment
>no allies
>no negation
>no hope
Burning malpots to take care of revenants always hurts.
Why do fiends have a higher HD than half of the hell and pan lords?
get owned
>>127207695
>XL20 Felid
>doesn't even have 100 HP
>>127207774
>he hasn't 15-runed a gargoyle so malmutated to shit that he ascends with 70 max HP
Remember, less HP means less damage from torment.
>>127207774
sheeeeeiiiittt
>>127207896
Chei's so good, isn't he?
>>127207896
Step out of time or some shit
>>127207896
>strengthbuildvsdexbuild.png
YOU'VE KILLED THE BIRDS ON THE FEEDERS FOR THE LAST TIME SRUFFLES!
so I learned the starting a quick fire in the basement for light in experimental z-levels for DDA actually spreads across z-levels
not that I don't mind this works but
>>127208031
don't you talk that way about chei
>>127208052
yeah, step from time saved me
>>127207896
>>127208294
>that hp increase
How many fucking levels of fighting did you get from V5?
>>127208430
He is a statue in the second image.
Should i roll a Wizard Troll of Gozag and call him King Midas?
>>127208570
Ah, right.
I thought he just bleached his fur.
>>127208093
Is that some kind of cheaty character or is it just bionics?
>Kill a durrgin with a timely combo earlier
>New durrgin shows up later in the dungeon and find out from ha;f my health getting evaporated
>As usual, allies are about to get clocked for the sixth goddamn time thanks to their faggot AI cause I can't tell them to go and sit behind a corned
>Alright, I'll get behind a corner, negate him when he's in range, then quaff life and pound him
>mfw
Errytime.
>>127208093
>8700+ Power
>all stats at 20+
How many years has your character lived?
Group question: what's the hardest enemy/boss encounter in any roguelike you all are familiar with?
>>127209290
27th floor mummy, pan lord, or orb of fire theme of a megazig in crawl
>>127209290
Big J
>>127206587
Ditto with traps. Trying to hold him in the gas of a caustic trap as he tears you apart is a horrible feeling. At least when there's a lot of chasms you can gamble on trying to find the food as you dive.
>>127208989
I do admit 'cheesing' a rat cave because mutations can arise from radiation, and the rat king gives off safe amounts at short bursts. It was an interesting experimental game I played then (the rat king mut's been here since DDA created though afaik) and been porting my saves to new versions ever since.
>>127209075
so far looking at the .sav year 5 season 3 (winter) There's an option for eternal winter so I can be super comfy at all times
>>127178151
Try rogue that takes treasure hunter at the start. Early on you can stab/calm mind restab, and kick melee to kil la lot of shit. The extra ammo from treasure hunter lets you shoot what you can't or will take too much shock trying to avoid or fight. In them idgame you have a metric fuckton of spikes and you cheese shit with kick then spiking them to the wall. In the late game you can jsut stealth all over with few fucks given. And when you do, you can just empty out your excess guns then chuck em. At the boss fight you have a couple tovs, dynamite, paralysis pots and enough ammo to get the job done as well as a wide selection of recovery and buff pots.
don't bother with the backstab feat, if you needed it to kill it, you probably shouldn't be trying to stab it in the first place and are better off being able to actually hit with a gun, carry more, or calm mind more.
>>127209723
>foreign assault rifle
Is that the generic guns mod? I've never tried it out before but that seems to fit the description.
>5 years
Jesus christ, how big is your save file? And how do you play that long? I usually get bored after a year or two.
>>127210008
Yeah I slapped on the generic guns mod for the heck of it, it definitely cleans up the gutter that is finding ammo for American-180 or some obscure gun
I only recently started again because Unreal World didn't do it for me despite its fun in the past, wintertime is p comfy, and free time comes hand in hand with experimenting
>how big is your save file
about as big as any other saves 100+ mb, I port my .sav itself (449 kb) here and there
here's some older pics (had a pretty cool artifact I left behind that had see through)
Cleared Spider Nest and got the gossamer rune. Should i clear Shoals or Vaults first?
Hell, should i attempt the Hall of blades? XL 18 is decent, but there's no corridor to fight all those damned blades and sorceres, so i'd prefer to reach XL 20 first.
>>127210732
With those spells I wouldn't go for blade. You'll get swarmed by highly resistant shit and killed from the noise. You should be able to chew through most if not all of shoals then flip flop with vaults
>>127210732
Well, there goes my vaults attempt.
And thanks to my good luck, it was literally the only entrance there, i can't attemp vaults before killing Saint Roka or dying trying.
>>127210732
Shoals -> Vaults until 4 -> Depths until its too much -> Vaults: $ -> Elf
okay
Where the FUCK is the black market
the changelog says it's near medusa's level but I mapped from level 25 (below medusa's level) to level 19.
Can it not spawn?
>>127211021
forgot pic.
>>127210978
Thought that too, and i can't chew my way with fists there.
>>127211036
Thanks for the help,i hope Shoals aren't too much of a problem: spiders gave me quite some trouble, but always had an out to surrounding.
>>127211109
Can read tele, go down the stairs then deal with wherever it lands you. Wish you had a ring of tele but whatever.
holy shit but yred makes swamp fun
>>127211253
If you're ever getting tired of your allies getting picked off, tell them to wait on a cleared floor and you can recall bomb as needed. Where's your enslaved soul?
>>127207896
Now that's what I'm talking about
>>127211253
>Lerny zombie
>not Lerny simulacrum
>>127211173
>>127211173
But then how'd i come back to the main dungeon without meeting Roka and his berserk orcs?
I'm also stashing literally every single item of the game in my dragon lair located in the Temple, so i have to do many travels both for stashing AND for this reason.
@??lernaean hydra simulacrum
Gretell simulacrum (Z) | Spd: 8 (swim: 60%) | HD: 30 | HP: 72-109 | AC/EV: 0/0 | Dam: 14(cold:30-89) per head | undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: magic(40), cold+++, poison+++, drown, rot+++, neg+++, torm | Vul: fire, holy++ | XP: 937 | Sz: Giant | Int: brainless.
Those are some fucking numbers
>>127211369
They'll break up a little and you can pick off the sorc and some warriors then tele once you';ve cleared a bit. That you're an Eclecticist is a little worrying but between buff pots, magic, and summoning something's gotta give
Where the frick is your food?
>>127211369
kill them using summon corridor/corner or something
![6cpokqgcE[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aZkLLYj.jpg "6cpokqgcE[1].jpg")
QUICK, POST THE MUSIC YOU PLAY WHILE ROGUELIKING.
I personally put a different theme depending on the branches of DCSS.
Main Dungeon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9WH4dPevfc
Lair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6fhQ8Vmu5s
Shoals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6lKjgmMoZ4
Elven Halls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFFdoGabc_U
Spider Nest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPd1TwL8YV8
>>127211369
Why are you making a stash of all things? For fun?
hey /rlg/, making a roguelike with tiles and need some advice.
is having an ascii mode necessary to be taken seriously?
Fucking piece of shit isn't found with a fucking blessed scroll of magic mapping I fucking hate you and I am going to slime you so hard you asshole
>>127211996
No as long as your tiles are distinct, informative, and don't look atrocious.
>>127212057
What else would you use?mapping on anyway?
>>127212179
I don't know
I never got this far
>>127211892
there is, but you cannot anymore
>>127211889
Anything that's complex enough to enjoy when I pay attention, but also good background noise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVqPx5mUj0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXXvuCkxSxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MeWtTnXXmA&list=PLnQrUKem2YKnfnxH7MOMbLGgJctJ-2hVn
>>127211892
Fun, collection-whoring and a little bit of autism that every rougelike player has/needs. I just wanted to play as a dragon and make a huge stash of gold and treasure.
However, i have not found Dragon form spell yet, which sucks. I just want to be a purple, queer Smaug, is that a crime?
>>127211565
I have tons in my lair, but for the purposes of collection and stashing i just take a single stack of food. I have only 1 bread left now, so my diet will now consist of Beef jerky.
You guys have no idea how much joy and tediousness it takes to pick a different kind of fruit and add it to the collection.
>>127211889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8NDwMqaGWA
Gee dynahack how come your dev lets you have a two handed sword AND a large shield?
Oh hey
I'm probably dead
I didn't know charming monsters in one eyed sam's shop made him angry
yeah I expected that
>>127202262
>or you actually played crawl and picked up spells based on your needs.
You mean you learn haste and regen, take a token damage school and train weapons fighting and defensive skills much further than your magic once you've learned your level 6 bolt?
>>127212104
So basically yes
