Christmas in Calradia edition.
(Looted) thread: >>126251193
READ THE PASTEBIN BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS.
BANNERLORD INFO/VIDEOS:
https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbaWgLjN6s [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpkrdMAyCmo [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w66nHR7GTF4 [Embed]
PASTEBIN: http://pastebin.com/6QJ8afq1
M&B Wiki: http://mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Mount_and_Blade_Wiki
NOOB GUIDE: http://imgur.com/a/FMAqV
M&B VERSION ARCHIVES
>ftp://ftp.taleworlds.com/
Anon's mods and upstab guide:
http://pastebin.com/agwZu9Df
>/mbg/ Steamgroup
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mountandbladevg
Module Recommendations:
>Swedish Mayonnaise
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=211788.0
>Warwolf
https://mega.co.nz/#!lw0nkThD!Fi1am6YqNGOuWE93ZDzoNiqxqDukFkpRuJzIeuyy9-c
>Carribean! Blood and Gold (on Steam)
http://snowbirdgames.com/blog/?p=1632
>Warphilia
https://mega.co.nz/#!tEAmwZYS!ZL8IQAvQaM3SE7aubY6TuvVtFhLBZBJI7X3icE4fsT4
Module system decompiler and PoP/ACoK/1257 AD/CIA source files: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ucsmvc35ypgz5r8/AAAgGaMWKrD15iH60Mbr8Yyua?dl=0
Tweakbro's Warsword: https://mega.nz/#!pA5ETB7D!v3FOXElTq-hDToBG6QVtAzeLgO-saWafMlQYP8XFJVE
Unique troops mod - http://www.mediafire.com/download/w1c7p6p1c4ba9ni/Persistent+Troop+Identities+1.1.rar
i condensed all my mods and the upstab guide into one pastebin which houses all the links to reduce clutter in the OP
>forgot the embeds
fug
>>126510045
i didn't do much today since it was christmas and only started working on it yesterday, but i've already got animations done, assets are almost all ported, textures are all in, and i've been adding weapons which is probably 30-40% done
Any news on VG mods of the most recent 1257 or PoP versions? It would be nice if the new poop mod would do something to make empire pikemen actually good against horses.
>>126511221
Nice, thanks for all your hard work on unfucking this shit. You are the best.
i just updated my pastebin with all my stuff with a short summary of what it does
>>126511686
kept hitting the character limit, needed to be done at some point
from now on i'll probably keep all my links on there to minimize clutter in the OP
>>126511263
I'm gonna give the upstab/pike bracing guide in the OP a shot tomorrow for the PoP update. Upstab might help them a bit but I don't think there's a way to actually get them to crouch and brace pikes without some sort of module change, which I'd have literally no idea how to do.
It's worth noting though that PoP has a basic formations system that no one seems to know about whenever it gets mentioned. J, K, L, and ; order your troops to do shit like form ranks and shield walls. Pretty sure shield wall dumps pikes in the back so they actually have a bit of protection from shield users while they poke at shit.
In any case, if I get the upstab and crouching and shit working and no one else gets around to it, I'll upload the file for anyone else too lazy to do it.
>>126513446
i already did the upstab pike bracing business, check the mod pastebin i made
>It's worth noting though that PoP has a basic formations system that no one seems to know about whenever it gets mentioned. J, K, L, and ; order your troops to do shit like form ranks and shield walls.
troops will pike brace if they aren't in a mod formation
ie if you tell them to charge to break formation, then hold position and use the native formation commands (stand closer, spread out etc) they'll crouch with their polearms if they have braceable polearms
>>126513587
Oh neat. Saves me some time dicking around hoping I don't fuck something up then. It's up to date with the new PoP, right?
>>126513676
no actually, i made it for 3.720 when it came out but there've been a few patches since
i'm sure it'll work fine though since it's just actions.txt, item_kinds1.txt, and module.ini
if there are issues you could just look at the changes in the module.ini from this submod and the most recent PoP one, then just change the stuff i added (load_mod_resource = flail, display_wp_firearms = 1, and copy all the lines at the bottom to the new module.ini and paste them at the bottom, the stuff like can_crouch = 1)
and if there's item_kinds1 stuff you could just add the upstab flags manually and copy and paste the flail over to where it is in the submod item_kinds1, since it just replaces tutorial items from original M&B
Ded
Any good mods that include chopping heads off? After playing VC the vanilla combat looks so low violence.
rip /mbg/
Dead? c'mon i thought /gsg/ was dead.
>>126517640
rip in peace /mbg/. If only I'd posted more... I could have helped stop this
What's a dead multiplayer mod we could revive
>>126520514
>Implying the dead can revive anything
>>126520645
What about skeleton necromancers ?
>>126520698
>necromancers
>skeleton
LOSER!
>sire
>>126520814
Shut the fuck up loser l bet you play with the swadians just to have op knights you huge faggot
LONG MAY HE REIGN
>own 3 cities as vassal of Swadia
>take over fourth city, rebel against swadia when I dont get it
>Don't realise Swadia doesn't own any fiefs except what I had
>peace gets declared after 2 days and no battles
easiest revolt ever, only I'm actually making less after awarding myself all the villages because of stupid tax inneficiency
>>126517640
>medieval nobleman who isn't byzantine or a viking
>bathing
lmao
Can we put Phosphor into the OP please? I think a lot of anons heere will ike it.
Also, can someone tell me how to stop it from raping my CPU? The overworld is really laggy.
Anyone playing with AD 1257 ver 1.13?
Can you see your minimap and reinforcement numbers HUD or are they missing?
I can't see mine and there's nothing in the changelog that says they were removed, so I'm trying to figure out if it's just faulty installation on my part.
is with fire and sword ok
>>126531512
it is ok
>>126511112
where can i get this mod?
how do you heirloom items in PoP?
So the king happened to take notice of my 100k debt and froze it. He's not happy.
Am I fucked?
>>126533836
what were you doing anon?
>>126533836
>So the king happened to take notice of my 100k debt and froze it. He's not happy.
100k debt? What the fuck dude
>>126533836
>100k debt
What the fuck are you involved in? Drugs?
>>126535056
He probably deals in butter.
>It's standalone, but currently under heavy editing as I'm porting it from 1.03 to 1.13.
>mfw
What happened to that medieval game made by Czechs who thought it was a good idea to put ameriburgers as voice actors in and everyone complained?
So now that I have my own modest kingdom (no lords yet tho), which faction should I destroy first?
Swadia is already out of the picture
>>126536407
nords
Can I get more or less a walkthrough for Mount and Blade, preferably with the Floris mod? I've gotten to the boring point where I can win combats reliable, can win sieges with some effort (mostly by peppering the enemy with missles first and engaging them in melee later) but I can't get much further.
I'm playing a female character, my idea is to marry the Nord pretender and reclaim his throne but I highly doubt that I'm strong enough to pull this off at this point. This would mean singlehandedly conquering all of the Nord kingdom.
To what degree/level should I levelgrind to pull this off?
>>126535903
what mod sempai
Is Blood & Steelfun?
I've played pretty much every mod except that one
>>126538553
it's veryfunpraise the aleph
>>126537849
Anon's 1257 Modded, according to that new pastebin.
>>126538553
It's fun as fuck. Try playing a barbarian first, it's hilarious.
>>126538553
one of the best mods around
unfortunately the dev stopped working on it
>>126540526
I want to do a serious playthrough but I heard that when you're a barbarian you legit just punch people to death
Does editing the inventory of the regular soldiers in your army affect the equipment every soldier deploys with, or does that have no effect whatsoever?
has warsword been updated yet ?
>>126541252
no
should be soon tho
>>126541216
what mod
>>126541154
>you can massacre villages in blood and steel
HOLY FUCK
THIS MOD IS AMAZING
>>126529239
Minimap yes, reinforcements not a clue.
>>126541185
If you use the options like regenerating health and dodging attacks then it's near-impossible to die as a Barbarian because you've got so much agility and strength.
Also with some investment in athletics you can outrun horses.
>>126531512
It is ok with the enhacement mod, otherwise it's completely unbalanced
>mass swedish reiters
>win
>>126541457
Diplomacy
>>126536781
Get gold relationships with vaegir villages, their is really good.
Oh and marriage won't be available unless you have more than 25 reputation with the guy and that the guy isn't in an enemy faction
I played as a female, l know how it goes fampai
>>126541216
Do you mean editing troops.txt with morgh's or when you ask soldiers to see their inventory?
If the latter, no effect.
>use anons ENB
>makes my game disgusting and gray
>>126542393
>Get gold relationships with vaegir villages, their is really good.
Will do. Can you explain why? Their troops are considered a joke in these threads, right?
And considering Vaegirs are good according to you, does that mean it'd be smart to join the Vaegir faction for now?
>Oh and marriage won't be available unless you have more than 25 reputation with the guy and that the guy isn't in an enemy faction
I understand. My idea was to power up, take up the banner of the Nord pretender, win the entire faction for him and then marry him, making myself queen through marriage rather than through conquest. This is a roleplay decision I've made, even though I know simply conquering myself a kingdom would be easier (I'm trying to do that with a different character).
>>126544984
Vaegirs have nice knights and are right next to the nords, and you can't recruit units if you're at war with the nation and have 0 or less reputation with the village. Remember to have huskarls for raids toothe vaegirs are balanced, but their knights are above average
>>126545978
>Remember to have huskarls for raids too
Less talking, more raiding!
>>126546105your soldiers have seen their friends die infront of them, raiding isn't a solution
>>126545978
>>126546105
I see. One more question: even if I don't get to own them, would it be smart to conquer cities from the Nords for the Vaegirs? It would make my potential future enemy stronger, but ont he other hand it would make it a lot easier to conquer the Nords once I decide to enforce Lethwin Farseeker's claim.
>>126544984
>>126545978
Since he's using Floris mod, they should have the best archers as well.
>>126546290
Nah don't join the vaegirs, wait until you have good relationships with villages (you want to put lots of people in your castles, at least 500 per castle) and raid castles little by little, your main problem will be defending
Calling on the anon who worked removed the tripping from ACOK. How is your progress going?
Just wanted to know if you're also willing to make the changes again if ACOK 2.2 comes out.
Another idea I was hoping you could you bring in was to remove the events where Tywin becomes a king if either Stannis, Renly or the Reach take King's Landing. That event occurs every single game and it would be nice if the war between North/Riverlands and the Westerlands went on so players aren't stuck fighting Ironborn if they join those two factions.
>>126546729
vaegirs already have the best bow archers in native
give viking conquest serial key pls
>>126546739
So conquer independently, right? Sounds like a good idea, considering your keeps will pass over when you take up the banner of a pretender. Thanks for the advice bruh.
WARSWORD NAO
>tfw realise campaign ai has been on easy and you set it to good and the ai starts fienting the shit out of you
Assuming I want to have the Jeremus circle of companions in Floris, is Nadia a companion worth having? What skills would be best to endow her with? It's a hard choice, considering she starts out as a tabula rasa and could become anything I want her to.
So I learned you can edit text size. I changed font_size=''70'' to font_size=''110'' (higher number translates into smaller text in-game).
But now there's too much distance between letters, words and rows of sentences. Can I change it to be a bit smaller by changing line_spacing=''100'' to something?
Does anyone know more about this in depth?
>>126550398
>campaign AI
>feinting
wat
>>126550482
Make her a backup INT-character. That's what I'd do. Either that or a fighting troop, either archer, cavalry, crossbowman, infantry or spearman depending on what faction I chose at the beginning of the game.
>>126550659
>backup INT-character.
So the same skills as Jeremus? Do healing skills stack? If so, nabbing two healers early on is a massive boon.
>>126550837
No they don't stack. But if Jeremus happens to die, your party won't benefit from Wound Management, therefore it'll take a long time for Jeremus to heal up again and start benefitting himself and the rest of the party with his doctor skills. For reasons like that, it is useful to have backup INT characters with either or both the scout and doctor skills.
>>126550963
Thank you for the clarification!
How can I use magic in Phosphor? I keep finding these books after killing wizards, but they don't do much in combat.
Also, there's grenades and shit, but I don't know how to use those either.
"That's a nice head on your shoulders."
How respond?
>>126551412
Probably some retarded hotkey you're gonna have to google 30 minutes to find which one it is.
>>126551603
just hang up
>>126550540
So I changed line_spacing first from 100 to 130 and I didn't notice anything, and then from 130 to 70 (30 under 100, same amount of change as to font_size (which I changed from 110 to 100, originally 70), and there's no change again.
So what does line_space even do? Is it even possible to change the distance between letters/distance between rows of sentences.
>>126511112
warband is 85% off until the 4th. get your peasant murder simulator while it's dirt cheap.
>>126548209
torrent it you lazy piece of shit
What are your grievances with ACoK /mbg/? Only mod I haven't touched despite my autistic knowledge of the universe due to the legacy of Cozurs faggotry and some shit I don't like.
-Tripping while backpedaling
-stat reduction for retarded reasons
-retarded events
-outdated feeling of combat compared to other newer mods
my list off first impressions so far
>>126552046
>-outdated feeling of combat compared to other newer mods
what do you mean?
>>126551657
Man I've read what feels like every post on their subforum and found fuck all.
There's nothing in the player's handbook either.
Anyone noticing any storyline differences or whatever with the new background choices in PoP? Only thing I've gotten was some guy telling me I look like a statue of an old pendorian king.
Also, I've been getting attacked by red brotherhood and brigand ambushes a LOT more than I usually see, but I'm not sure if that's just because I've pissed off a few lords this run, or if it's because I chose the mysterious letter at the start.
>>126547107
>>126552046
Posting link from based untripping anon
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n7svn1b67we5nh/mission_templates.txt
Why is Retardiran the most overpowered companion in PoP?
>>126555726
because muh elves
I've used Floris a lot in the past, but when I just downloaded it again, every single village, castle and city is "Occupied by Insurgents". This is annoying as shit, is this a bug and can I fix it?
>>126555969
Definitely sounds like it.
Have you tried reinstalling and redownloading it?
I have seen more ONE PUNCH MAN cosplays/named characters in DS2 that I ever saw of Guts.
Not one of them has figured out how to git gud with bone fists yet.
>>126551743
>implying you can hang up
>>126557178
Wrong Thread.
Have a good one, lads.
what are the highest profit productive enterprises besides the dyeworks in rivacheg
Am I correct in thinking that troop stacks gain xp rather than individual troops, therefore it is best to have large stacks of the same troops than a variety of different troops. For example, a stack each of the same infantry, ranged and cav? I play Floris if that makes a difference.
>>126557463
Anything coastal and I have good returns for Sarranid enterprises. All dyeworks.
>>126557463
If you mean the most efficient ones :
Oil in Veluca. Ale in Suno. Wine in most of the sarranid towns. Ironworks in Curaw.
>>126557640
to shariz I go
>>126557857
i'm looking for highest profit, not highest return on investment
>>126558000
Actually, the best one is the one furthest from shariz.
>>126557504
no it's individual troops, but the more troops of one stack you have the faster they level with trainer
>>126558000
>>126558139
Or maybe second furthest, sorry can't load up my game atm to check. Just check them all out.
>>126558132
Dyesworks mosty everywhere then, except jelkala suno and veluca
>>126558202
OK, thanks for the clarification family. I like to keep big stacks anyway so that won't change anything.
>>126556776
Not yet, that was the thing I didn't understand. I literally just installed Warband and then installed Floris and when I opened it, it was like that
>>126557178
How many of /mbg/ also play ds? I notice a lot of crossover in my group of friends.
http://strawpoll.me/6370141
>>126555969
>Occupied by Insurgents
Insurgents? I haven't seen that in Floris. Is it the Taliban or something?
So l picked up blood and steel, and l'm 3 days in
>groups of hundreds of undead shits everywhere
>hundreds of bandits everywhere
>l'm op
>heroes are op
>no money
>doom in 42 days
Can l get advicd ?
What does mbg listen to while playing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASj81daun5Q
>>126560802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX856m7U8uw
Works better than you might expect.
>>126560802
This song, a lot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvECtlJQ4dU
>>126560802
Nord playthrough, immigrant song on repeat, final destination
>>126560802
The in-game music and sounds.
>>126561983
Same, I never listen to music while playing. The only exception is while playing fifa or pro-evo while drinking with m8s.
>>126560802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pepUPNbVt8c
is there any sort of mod at all that allows you to create an heir to your throne with your spouse?
>>126562592
Yeah it's called Bannerlord.
>>126560802
https://youtu.be/3H8-mb9b-dc
>>126562921
>>126562592Crusader Kings 2
>>126562592
Bannerlord fa m
>>126558768
Weird, there's no insurgents in Floris.
How did you installed it? You didn't installed Floris Evolved by chance did ya?
>>126565495
BBBB (Butter Butter he Butter)
>>126565495
Simply glorious, what a proper nobleman of Harlaus.
>>126565495
>>126565857
>>126563525
>>126565495
>open butter slot
Nord infiltrator detected.
Are ransom missions bugged? I have no option to pay the ransom, there's seemingly no covert way to get the guy out. Literally the only way to solve it is to break the guy out on your own, even though the guy giving the quest to me implied there were other ways.
Do I need to talk to the lord of the castle privately to talk about paying the ransom? Because I can't do that because he doesn't like me enough.
>>126566151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ_E5SC1OB0
>>126566424
Unfortunately the actual ransom part isn't there.
So yeah, only way to free him would be either slapaguard or lay siege on the castle.
You can go to the castle's attached village and talk to its village elder to do a diversionary fire and it'll lower the amount of guards to one or two when you do the prison break.
>>126566985
Oh cool, didn't know that. The mission-giver mentioned you could use local connections, but I had no idea what it meant.
I can take on one or two guards easily, I just can't handle the swarm without killing them all (and being a noble warrior of justice, I can only condone knocking them out with quarterstaffs, the guards only committing the crime of doing their jobs).
>>126568840
>and being a noble warrior of justice
my brother
>I can only condone knocking them out with quarterstaffs
Justice is fatal, every time. They failed to kill someone and even imprisoned them. Time for Justice. Then kill the Lord for being taken prisoner.
Oh how I wish we could execute Justice (and lords) in m&b.
Do the grenades in Phosphor actually work?
>>126566985
Reminder that you can fight for her and justice in Gekokujo due in part to prettierfemales anon.
>>126547107
I'll make a script to remove it from any version so I won't need to do it again for 2.2 (unless cozur finds out and goes out of his way to change the code just to make it not work). And sure, I can probably make Tywin not become a king.
>>126552046
I'm a big fan of ASOIAF but I only started my first ACOK playthrough recently and I gave up almost immediately because I was just fucking bored. That was with tripping removed and I didn't reach any stat reduction events. I can't put my finger on exactly what I disliked about it but it just didn't feel right for some reason.
>>126558202
>no it's individual troops
That is dead wrong. XP goes to stacks, NOT individual troops unless they're heroes.
>>126570204
I am the son of a poor hunter, who spent his adolescence learning war and manners at the court of the local nobleman, but knowing I was forever cut out of their noble circlejerk.
I will not slay my fellow common man for the good of these spoiled lords. If Abdul Wahid wants blood spilled to get his son back, he can spill it himself.
>>126511221
You are a sexy scholarly gentleman for adding the improved polearm animations to all of those great mods. Does your Viking Conquest submod also include the improved polearm animations (upstab etc)? Thank you!
I already own Warband. Is With Fire and Sword, or either of the two Warband DLCs worth getting?
>>126575085
Are you saying I have interacted with a commoner? Disgusting.
By my own code, I will now consume a fatal amount of butter. Justice is served and it is buttery.
Okay... I just had a BSOD which resulted in the PC being ''unable to start Windows'' this happened once more in my entire life, five days ago. The problem was simply fixed by restarting the PC, same as now, I could start my PC as usual.
Trouble is, this time when I fire up Warband after this happening (the BSOD occured while playing Warband), my characters face has downs syndrome, tons of values here and there are changed seemingly randomly. For example I use the mod Silverstad, and viewing reference material - all troops, the troops are not assigned correct tiers, certain books my character has read are not longer counted as read (loss of stats), weapons and armours have completely random stats.
I presume what happened was that this BSOD occuring while playing Warband somehow meant values in the .txt's were changed, right?
>>126577350
Yes, go drown yourself in fat and gout-sores, noble swine. It'll be all the easier for my men stick you when your time comes!
>>126576763
With fire and sword is completely different, remember to get the enhancement mod or you'll hate the game
>>126578169
>Implying your rabble could do anything worse than a KO
>Implying I am not effectively immortal and free to reap peasant and soldier alike
You scum killed my horse once though. I got a new one.
>>126578114
Sounds like a corrupted save.
Do you play with auto save on?
>>126578993
Yeah
>>126578169
>Pig Bond
>>126578993
Sounds like you might hafta restart from scratch.
No way to fix corrupted saves, so it's usually best to play without auto saves and save on multiple slots. That or manually backup saves.
>>126579506
well i've got a last_savegame_backup.sav, do i use it by deleting sg00.sav? it's set to earlier than sg00.sav and i think the ''last changed'' is earlier than the bsod.
>>126579669
Not the guy you were speaking too but the word backup suggests that it is the same save, but try it anyway. Can't hurt.
>>126580768
well i dont know how to use a backup save for autosave games but i presume i remove the original save file, and the game automatically uses the backup save? i saved the original savefile elsewhere and im trying now
>>126579669
>>126580768
Try indeed, but usually they the backup.sav doesn't work. Well, at least for me anyways.
Hopefully it works for you.
>>126579669
You delete sg00.sav and rename last_savegame_backup.sav to sg00.sav.
Yep, didn't work. 1000 days gone.
Oh well, thank god it's not a Skyrim playthrough and just a sandbox game which is fun to play from the start over and over again for various reasons:)
>>126580947
Just rename the backup to sg00, it will probably work how you are doing it though.
>>126581182
Yeah tried, didn't work
>>126581357
Just trying to find out here, but did you close the program before altering the saves? I have done this with saves and it worked fine. Sorry for your lots if it is somehow fucked man :(
>>126581653
I always make sure to close Warband properly before editing anything. I mean changing the backup save files name DID work but the save itself wasn't before the corruption occured.
>>126575358
Anyone?
>>126581764
Ah I see. Harsh, but time to start a new conquest at least! Good murdering to you!
Is there a way to make it so more savefiles are created but only the latest one is used?
>>126582227
Not automatically as far as I know. With a bit of a discipline you can just make daily backups manually but copy pasting the sav file.
>>126582736
by*
>>126582736
>>126582839
Ah yeah so as I end each session. I copy the savefile and put it somewhere else on the PC.
Do I do this with both the backup or just the main savefile?
>>126583060
Just the main savefile, the backup will be like a couple of minutes behind or something, not a lot of point if you ask me.
>>126583060
>and put it somewhere else on the PC.
You can just leave it right where it is. Literally just click the sav file and press ctrl+c, ctrl_v and you'll have a backup name sg00 - Copy.sav that won't get overwritten by anything and if you want to revert to it you just delete sg00.sav and rename sg00 - Copy.sav to sg00.sav.I use this savescum so I know it works.
Alright, thanks for all the help guys.
Now, actual game question. I've wanted to try this type of playthrough for a while now, where I focus 100% on improving my own character and my companions to become the ultimate killing machines (easier to do with Silverstad since there's abilities), but also of course a small number of troops. Which faction should I be associated with, the Rhodoks or the Nords?
One more thing: Can can companion AI make use of the guns in Silverstag?
>>126583581
Make a companion shieldwall with rhodok crossbows behind. They will be more useful in siege -> shoot -> retreat and will likely live longer. I can't say if this advice is applicable to silverstag though.
>>126583895
It's worth noting that in Silverstag you can order archers to shoot fire arrows, which increases damage and reduces rate of fire, making them more similar to crossbowmen.
>>126573861
Its a shit chore at the beginning. Doesnt get that much better later on anyway.
>>126584902
When I order them to do that, only one out of ten archers do this. Why?
>>126585407
I haven't played Silverstag in a long time but I'm sure I didn't get that problem in an earlier version. No idea mate.
Okay, seriously, do enemies preferentially attack player fiefs? Swadia went to war with the khergits, and I have now had FIVE fucking horsefucker war parties all independently come after my one tiny little impoverished village, one after the other after the other, in an unending torrent of enemies, even though it's nowhere near the front. Fucking WHY?! It is literally the poorest village in all of Swadia! Why the fuck won't they leave my people the fuck alone?!
>>126586156
They have established reps with one another. Youre the new guy with 0 rep so most go for you instead of shitting on good rep of other lords by attacking their village
>>126586501
Is that true? Is that actually a game mechanic? Because I am not actually the swadian vassal with the lowest renown. There are at least two other vassals with less renown than me.
>>126513843
What key to make my character crouch? I completely forgot about it.
Has anyone ever founded a kingdom without first being a vassal?
The smallest castle garrison is ~100, and most have ~200. And even if I manage to take one, I'll get swarmed by thousands of vengeful Moors.
>>126586682
Relation bro not Renown
>>126586682
not same guy, but; so you're amongst the bottom 3 then, that means they get targeted alot too I'd imagine.
>>126586501
>>126586894
I think you're making shit up. The only other village they've looted has a lord whose renown is 741, which makes him one of the top five swadian vassals.
Are you sure they don't preferentially target player fiefs?
>>126586682
No, not sure where he's pulling that from, because it still happens if you have 300000 renown and 100 relations with every lord. They just target the player over others.
>>126586818
X
>>126513843
>replacing a practice item makes it show up in tournaments
Not really a huge fan of the flail to begin with, but it showing up while I have a practice sword is kinda annoying.
>>126586682
The game has a bias against the player since the ai can't compete. It is meant to even the playing field.
>>126587124
>They just target the player over others.
If this is true, this is the most outrageous bullshit I have ever heard of. Is there a mod that fixes this?
It's like they're not even waging war on Swadia, they're just waging war on me personally. It's seriously shattering my suspension-of-disbelief. There is just no way they would place such a high priority on destroying the tiny little village of Pagundur, hundreds of miles away from the actual frontline.
>>126587124
>>replacing a practice item makes it show up in tournaments
i didn't, it replaces a tutorial item from original M&B that isn't used
unless PoP is now using that in tournaments, which i didn't think it would
>>126586682
Not renown, inter-lord rep. Honorable lords from opposing factions like each other and wont raid each other if theyre friends. Lords that hate you will target your villages, if you get a village fast you have 0 rep with everyone and youre their primary target because youre an uknown.
Try having high rep with enemy lords, theyll not even attack you, theyll act neutral and say how they regret having to fight you when you engage.
Now try being ok with everyone and have one guy who hates you. 95% of the time youll see his name whenever your village gets raided.
>>126587321
If your one fief getting raided is a problem then you have more serious concerns about your play. I usually just give up my first fief so that castles/towns I decide to take are going to be mine for sure.
>>126587443
You're saying it's about reputation, and someone else is saying they're just targeting me because I'm the player. Which is true?
>>126587386
Haven't checked with other mods, but I can say for sure it's happening in PoP. Doesn't really matter since the AI can't really use something that slow effectively, so you just push their shit in as soon as they start spinning it.
Everything else works fine,though. It was nice seeing crossbowmen crouch and shoot and pikemen brace spears against a cav charge.
>>126587557
The game has a bias against the player. The other anon is talking about RELATIONS with the lords in question. Not renown. I don't know if lord relations actually matter other than in dialogue.
>>126586818
I think it's caps lock by default.
>>126587536
Look, the king of Swadia bestowed a fief upon me. I'm not going to meta-game this shit; it was an honor, and, in-character, I was grateful, and accepted it. Now I'm the lady of that village, and as its liege I have a feudal responsibility to protect my people. If I have to sit out the entire fucking war, just defending my village against a never-ending stream of horsefuckers, then I will do so, because that is what a good liege should do – defend his people to his last breath, and die defending them if necessary.
And now, given that they have just descended on my village with an unstoppable stack that could only be stopped if the king or the marshal himself showed up to fight them, it looks like I'm going to have to do just that – charge suicidally in, and get all of my soldiers killed to a man, and myself captured and raped repeatedly by these fucking barbarians.
I'm mad, and if there's a mod that fixes this bullshit, I would dearly like to know. Because there is no reason they should be exclusively targeting me and my people like this, when there are so much juicier targets nearer the front.
>>126587668
if it does i'll have to move it then, i'll probably do that when i patch it to the latest version
>>126587114
No.
>play pop
>play with empire cause theyre getting stomped
>rack honor theough roof
>save 2-3 lords from prison every other day
>let enemy lords gonif theyre nice folk
>have shitloads of friends just because of this
>take laria, only 2-3 guys from sarleon attack me because i bullied them
>other lords greet me as a friend even tho we"re at war
>get asked for peace after 2 days of nobody doing anything to fight me
>attack empire
>everyone is pal, free to mow through them with only fighting sieges cause nobody engages or raids me
> take 70% of empire in a few days
Establishing high rep is a chore but highly beneficial, when a friend engages you he even lets you go without a fight but you take a rep hit as a counterbalance
>>126587826
Well, if I was your companion I wouldn't travel around to tell the world about how you should be the next monarch. If you aspire to rule then you need to have a plan, that means that sacrifices are necessary. Wasting your army? Charging suicidally in to save a village or would you rather bring peace to all Calradia?
>>126588148
>Charging suicidally in to save a village
It's worth pointing out that he wouldn't even save the village, it's just a suicide charge because muh honor. Easy to justify that way when you yourself won't actually die, just the troops you're ordering to march to their deaths.
>>126588302
>Easy to justify that way when you yourself won't actually die
I would still do it even if doing so would force-retire my character (the equivalent of death in this game).
I'm currently just staring at his army, trying to come up with something, ANYTHING that will allow me to save that village. Charging in will be the absolute last thing I do, once I've determined that no other options are available.
I've tried running towards and away from him, to try and lure him away from the village and into the vicinity of a lord with a relatively large army who's patrolling a nearby castle, but he doesn't seem to want to follow me very far. I think it's because his army is too big, and I move so much faster than him. I'm going to keep trying though. I have to.
>>126588546
>I think it's because his army is too big, and I move so much faster than him
No, it's because the AI prioritises raiding over chasing down parties. They'll give chase only over an extremely small radius around the village, allowing them to keep raiding. Once you get a certain distance away they say fuck that loser, let's go back to raping these villagers. It is not possible to kite a lord away from a village they're raiding.
>>126588546
You are aware that you are at war? Use your army to help the war effort instead of riding around a shitty village for days. Go on the offensive.
>>126588942
>You are aware that you are at war?
SWADIA is at war. Why isn't the enemy attacking SWADIA? Why are they just attacking ME? I cannot even believe this. It cannot be believed. There is absolutely zero in-universe justification for why they are doing this. The entire khergit warmight is just streaming across hundreds upon hundreds of miles of fertile swadian lands, and targeting this puny little village of Pagundur, in an unrelenting fucking deluge. No sane war leader would ever condone a strategy like this. It makes no fucking sense.
If this is what happens when you go to war in Mount And Blade, then I'm thinking I just have to start savescumming to make sure Swadia never goes to war with anybody. If the game is going to cheat against me, then I might as well cheat against it.
>>126534121
>>126534936
>>126535056
I borrowed the maximum amount from one of the filthy vaegir cities. I didn't think we'd end up taking it and literally wiping them off the map.
>>126589227
>It makes no fucking sense.
You know what makes sense? Going after easy targets that do a shit job defending themselves. Like, let's say, a village owned by a lady who has no family members in her faction to come to her aid and nowhere near enough strength on her own to stand against her attackers.
The Khergits pursuing a strategy that would result in the Khergits losing would make no fucking sense. Are you, the target, getting absolutely raped? Then it makes a lot of fucking sense.
>>126589227
I'm not sure this is the game for you. You win some, you lose some. Your fief is raided by overwhelming force? You retreat and fight another day. Your fief can't even be raided as often as you claim because it will spend a large amount of time looted. Has the raid actually finished?
>>126589534
There are several lords who meet that exact description, besides me. Why not target any of them, hmm?
>>126589638
I have fought off a total of four khergit war parties that have all independently targeted my village. I am currently facing down a fifth, which is too large for me to defeat on my own. I'm trying to figure out a way of stopping him from raiding the village without getting killed.
I've got a save from before he reached the village. I'm thinking I can intercept him before he begins the raid, then kite him away from the village and towards some other lords who could help me defeat him.
>>126589804
>There are several lords who meet that exact description
I'll bet there aren't actually that many at all that have no family members and only one shitty village. But for those that are there
>Why not target any of them, hmm?
Are you so certain that none of them are being targeted? Maybe you just didn't notice villages that weren't yours being raided. Maybe they're next on the list. Are you going to tell me that your village is the ONLY one in all of Swadia marked as looted and the Khergits have packed up and gone home after raiding it?
>>126589804
You just have to accept that to make the game interesting for the player, you will be a primary target. It does sound excessive to have that many raids but you also place far too much value on protecting a village when you could be on the offensive and claiming castles and towns. It will be raided, you can't kite the lord if he is planning to raid it. Accept it, take down names, hold a grudge and defeat him when you are able.
>>126589804
You really, really don't understand how this game works. It doesn't matter if the AI targets you specifically or not, your village getting raided at some point is an inevitability. No village on the map is going to escape getting raided at some point in time. You're completely delusional if you actually think you can make sure a village never, ever gets raided. It's like trying to conquer Calradia without ever having a single troop die. It has to happen, your job is to minimise its occurrence, not prevent it completely.
>>126590073
My village is not yet looted. I've been fighting off a never-ending river of khergit war parties since the war began.
>Are you so certain that none of them are being targeted? Maybe you just didn't notice villages that weren't yours being raided.
I am looking at the map right now, and there is only ONE village, in the whole of Swadia, that is either "looted" or "being raided". They have not targeted anyone other than me, the entire war, with the SOLE exception of that one village.
>It does sound excessive to have that many raids but you also place far too much value on protecting a village when you could be on the offensive and claiming castles and towns.
I do not have the strength to take a castle on my own. And I only have a single dyeworks, so this one village represents like 40 percent of my regular income.
>>126590274
>It doesn't matter if the AI targets you specifically or not, your village getting raided at some point is an inevitability.
No, it does matter. If my village were just getting occasionally raided, with the same probability as any other village on the map, then I would be okay with that, because that would make sense. What is going on right now does not make any fucking sense at all.
>>126590657
>What is going on right now does not make any fucking sense at all.
Again, it makes perfect sense because you're a super easy target, as you keep telling us how unable you are to do anything to defend yourself. The other lords all have brothers, fathers, sons, etc that will help them out. You're a loner with one shitty village, no garrisons to hold more than a handful of troops and nobody to come help you. Your village is the perfect target, why wouldn't they keep aiming for it?
>>126590657
>I only have a single dyeworks, so this one village represents like 40 percent of my regular income
Next time spend time as a merc having your army supported and fight bandits until you have enterprises in most towns. You have crippled yourself.
>No, it does matter
No it doesn't. You have a huge advantage over the AI. The AI has to compensate and that means you are targeted. This isn't a history simulator, this is a game. Accept the rules of the game.
You have not even started a proper campaign if you posses a single fief and a single dyeworks. Wait until you declare an independent kingdom to witness true bullshit.
>>126591046
>The other lords all have brothers, fathers, sons, etc that will help them out.
No, they fucking don't. There are exactly two families of lords. All of the rest of the lords have no associated family members, except for the occasional sister, and yet none of them are being targeted like this.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be targeting my village, I'm saying they shouldn't be targeting my village EXCLUSIVELY. There should be other villages that they ALSO attack. They're sending every single war party they have after my tiny little village, as though it's the key to winning the war. As if raiding it is the equivalent of capturing the king of Swadia. As if nothing else in the world even matters. There is no justification for this.
>>126591237
Which town is your village associated with? If it is a rich town/castle the AI will target its villages to stifle its economy.
>>126591376
It's not. It's associated with a shitty little castle that we captured from the rhodoks back around the time I became a vassal (hence why they foisted the village off on me).
>>126591237
In every game I play, villages all over the map get raided. In thousands of hours of play I've never seen them attack my village exclusively and not also attack other targets. I'm highly skeptical of your claim that they never ever go for other villages. Is it because when they're not raiding your village they're busy besieging fortresses? Did you not even wait long enough for them to move on to anything else after yours was raided before checking how many were looted? What you're saying just doesn't add up.
>>126591237
Did it cross your mind that the other villages have stronger defenders?
>>126591658
One lord named Nasugei headed straight for my village the moment the war was declared. I happened to be nearby at the time, following the marshall, so I was able to rush to stop him. He had faster movement speed than me, so I had to carefully maneuver him into a position where I was able to corner him between myself and another swadian lord, and defeated and captured him.
After this battle, I patted myself on the back, thought, "Ah good, my village should be safe for a little while at least. Maybe I have time to head south and rejoin the campaign!" So I started riding off in the direction of Halmar, which was where the marshall was heading when I parted ways from him. However, I had barely reached Dhirim when suddenly someone started looting my village again. "Damn!" I thought. "What shitty luck!" However, when I got there, I found one lord named Sebula, who was being accompanied by another lord named Belir, and another lord, Hugu, who was INDEPENDENTLY raiding my village at the same fucking time. "The hell?" I thought. "That's a weird coincidence."
Sebula had the smallest and fastest army, while Belir's was the biggest and clumsiest, so I lured Sebula away until Belir was too far away to reinforce him, and then attacked and destroyed him. Then I attacked and destroyed Belir. By the time I got back to Pagundur, I couldn't find Hugu. I think I saw him riding away when I was initially approaching, so I don't know what was going on with him.
I started to ride away, thinking, "God, what the fuck was that? Why were all those lords converging on my village like that?" I had hardly gotten past Uxkhal, however, when all of a sudden my village started being raided FUCKING AGAIN. I returned, only to find this fucking asshole Tansugai, whose army is far too large for me to fight on my own. I don't know how I'm going to stop him.
>>126592192
All that super angry dramatic ranting about how they exclusively target your village and nobody else's and then you reveal that the war has barely started and they obviously can't have moved on from your village to others because yours isn't even done being raided yet. It's very clearly the case that yours is the first target for everyone because it's the easiest. That's all there is to it. When yours is looted, they will attack others. Stop saying it doesn't make sense, it makes perfect sense.
>>126592192
> I don't know how I'm going to stop him
You aren't, try and suppress your autism. You are fucked anyway, you became a vassal with a single enterprise. Stay a merc and have your army wages paid, hunt bandits and create a fuckload of enterprises next time. Once you have a few enterprises your income snowballs and it is easy to fill every town. You're gonna shit yourself when your first town is besieged by 1000+ troops.
>>126592662
and this
>>126592192
no but seriously- the AI in the campaigns WILL target the player (this was confirmed, and no i will not get proof)
try putting the campaign ai and everything else lower it may help
Are you unable to go up in rank as a soldier enlisted in lord's army in 1257? Experience to advance says N/A and the promotion date is set to 26 march even though it's may already.
god damn this "muh honor" roleplaying nerd getting all mad about some fictional peasants getting horse-fucked must have some serious autism
Alright. I see no other alternative. I'm going to charge in.
I've got 74 troops, with a combined level sum of 1666, and he's got 133 troops, with a combined level sum of 2047. There are some villagers who join me for the fight, but they aren't nearly enough to make up the difference.
Let's just test this fight out, and see if I even come CLOSE to winning.
>>126593846
I hope you won't save scum if you lose otherwise your crying about the game being unfair to you is seriously unjustified. Good luck.
Something tells me the guy crying about his village is the same one from a few threads back that whined for more than 24 hours about how he couldn't break a lord out of prison with a CHA build.
>>126594010
If I lose I just won't fight the battle. I'm not going to scum to win it.
It's going well so far, though. Mostly green text on the side. I think I actually have the terrain advantage, since the battle is being fought inside the village itself, which means their cavalry are restricted in their movements.
>>126587826
ROFL
you're just going to have to accept this and move on
>>126594143
what a bad desu
ive broken out lords from prisons while disguised with a 6/9/15/27 build without much problem
>>126594157
If you lose how could you fight it again without scumming? Accept the defeat, wait to escape and rebuild. Rebuilding after defeat is one of the most satisfying things to do.
>>126594143
I was trying to remember what this anon reminded me of. This is it.
>>126594403
I mean if I lost, I was just going to load the save and not even fight the battle. I was just going to accept the loss of the village.
However, it looks like the cramped environment of the village is putting the khergit troops at a heavy disadvantage. I'm just slaughtering them, and hardly even losing any of my own troops in the process. Everything is going far better than expected. I totally thought this was going to be a suicide run.
>>126594524
if you attack an enemy while they're raiding a village don't they all just start dismounted? khergits are hot garbage without their horses, meanwhile your own troops all start with horses and you get 40 peasants on your side
>>126594635
Yeah, I noticed a lot of them were on foot, which I thought was weird, but I knew they had some mercenary/peasant class troops, and not ALL of them were dismounted, so I didn't think anything of it. But apparently you're right. I guess I don't have to worry at all. If an army arrives that's too big, I can just wait until they start raiding to attack, and they'll be on foot and helpless.
>>126594524
That's called save scumming. Congrats on your victory though. Don't try that with Nords.
>>126594635
I find the villagers a nuisance. I would rather my troops were together. Like you say though, dismounted Khergits.
>>126594796
Every enemy is dismounted.
>>126594524
>>126594796
>Everything is going far better than expected.
>I guess I don't have to worry at all.
And thus, as usual, the autist managed to find a way to learn nothing from this experience.
>>126594873
the villagers are pretty good as fodder if you set peasants and other shit troops to have their own control group
>>126594963
True but I would still prefer a field battle where I can actually manoeuvre.
>>126593554
Peasants don't become Knights.
>>126573465
Best of luck anon
which is the better dlc Napoleonic Wars or Viking conquest
>>126573465
Could you make a version with just Tywin not becoming king?I actually like the tripping because it gives me a reason to level athletics and I like the random events because I know them all and like the free money, renown and stats it givespls no bully
>>126596419
Depends. Do you like SP or MP more?
NW is MP only. Aside from custom battles.
>>126596457
This is a bully. Whatya gonna do anon?
>>126596643
post smug reaction pictures
>>126596457
>I actually like the trippingI didn't realise that if I highlighted the text and clicked Q it would automatically spoiler the text, ain't that neat?
>>126597908I mean click the post number not press Q.
What's the difference between revolting and just deserting army in Freelancer?
>>126599378
Revolting temporarily gives you some troops that leave the army with you.
