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Bladefall edition
Last Thread: >>125751386

>New league Talisman info
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1478438

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP (embed)

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>2.0 Passive Skill Tree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree

>2.1 Offline Skill Tree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.3

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Delete This
https://github.com/ben-wallis/Filtration
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What are the best entertaining or educational podcasts to listen to while grindan, /poeg/?
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first for me
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GULP
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>Die twice to dumb shit having spent money on 2 Tabula's to not make leveling quite as painful
>No currency left chaos or above
>PoE drops from Brutus N

It's a sign, I can't give up hope.
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my face when some shitter cries after being obliterated by memefall
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what the fuck are TIERS
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>>125880539
the only decent thing I dont get from your build is 15% radius of effect, not a big deal, not enough to justify going that way (and you can get contagion quality) the skill duration nodes are 2 points away from mine. at all the other aspects, my build is superior. simple as that. is your build a good and decent cheap version? sure, never said otherwise. is my build more expensive? of course. but its better, and thats the only point I was arguing the entire time. more damage, more survability. an irrefutable fact. so bad you still cant admit it though
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st for touch of god skill gem
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are premium tabs worth the extra buck? or should I just get regular tabs?
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>>125881741
regular if you are not autistic
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>>125881741
It's a QoL thing. It can be handy, but if you have less than 15 tabs I wouldn't worry about it.
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i've forgotten how to level
what are leveling skills for a shadow if all you're doing is picking up elemental nodes and hp?
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talismans and divination cards, what else will ggg come up with to make you buy more stash tabs?
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>>125881972
bladefall with PtL
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>>125882050
Past to Leuheg what?
what abbreviation is that
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>>125882584
physical to lightning
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>>125881375
>Giving a shit about Leo.
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>>125882915
physical is that bad?
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>>125883118
you said you were scaling ele, it will probably be fine even without PtL cause bladefall is stupidly strong
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>>125882915
>he converts to damage that enemies have resistance against
literally lmaoing at you're tooltips fedora warrioring
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>>125883351
ah ok
thx
gotta get to 28 to use it though
what do I do before that?
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>>125883118
>>125883406
you shills stop quoting me i only posted what the abbreviation meant

i do not aggree with it and would roll with faster casting / spellecho
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>>125883430
Fire Trap
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>>125883468
are there any gems you can link fire trap to to make it less shit early on?
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>>125883529
use it together with freeze pulse
trap once shoot once kills a pack
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>streamer doesn't pick up any shit uniques
>picks up alts, jews, chances, etc.

Do these retards not know what Uniques vendor to?
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>>125883804
nice
Maybe its the fact that we were 3 people on scrubcore with no support gems what so ever trying to literally blow over Vaal oversoul with spells for 10 minutes and facetanking his slams without a care in the world.
hope this kill enemies fast.
Is there any difference at all between HC reague and softcore league in terms of death?
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>>125883976
what? don't they just give alch shards?
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>>125884005
>Is there any difference at all between HC reague and softcore league in terms of death?
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>>125881741
It's really nice to have premium tabs, but you don't need them.

>>125881789
The autistic thing is if you convert your four normal tabs to premium (which I've done).
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>Every single trade on the currency market of poe.trade is overpriced
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>>125884117
sry let me memephrase that
is there, ANY difference concerning difficulty or is it just alt f4 reddit stigma
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>>125881239

Hardcore history
TED radio hour is good, but some episodes are hit or miss
radio lab
stuff you should know
stuff they dont want you to know, if you want to hear a realistic angle on some more tinfoily topics

most of the NPR podcast network really
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>>125884117
>reague
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>>125884259
Yes, softcore league damage numbers are bugged
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>>125884383
so no memes then
thx
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>>125884259

there isnt any difference in difficulty, but if you die in hardcore your character is moved to softcore as opposed to just losing exp

If youre build is shit you still wont progress to end game even in softcore because constant deaths wont allow you to get past like lvl 75, if its even good enough to run maps in the first place, which are as hard on both leagues
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what's the best item to spend Orb of chance if was trying to make a profit?

or it will never ever be profitable to get good stuff out of them?
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>>125884557
Occultist Vestments i guess, since you can get shavs.
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>>125884353
what the fuck is hardcore history
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>>125884353
Hey, thanks anon. Appreciate it.
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>>125884498
It should be mentioned that if you die in Challenge League hardcore you're moved to permanent Standard and not the corresponding Challenge League softcore, so you can't just see how far you can go in the HC League and keep playing the character in Softcore once you die, unless you want the permanent Standard economy.
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>>125881040
Put the guild in the OP

Also there is still space if anyone wants in drop ur IGN here or @Hashtag for an invite.
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>>125885613
IGN:Doublesadpanda
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>find item in goyim.trade
>buyout is 1alch
>whisper him to buy it
>"1alch isnt worth my time"
>tell him he's a fucking idiot and to take his 1alch items out of his shop then
>he tells me to buy a different one
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..
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dead thread
dead game
dead economy
bad op picture
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are you retarded?
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>>125886527
classic
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have you ever fapped to a PoE NPC?
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>>125886716
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>>125885130

Its a podcast done by a dude named dan carlin that is extremely well done and does a really good job at going over all sorts of history topics
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>>125885216

Also, as much as it gets shit on around here, if you can get past the DUDE WEED LMAO stereotype and all the MMA talk, the joe rogan podcast has a lot of really solid guests on it that actually know their shit from time to time
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>>125885770
Just like ggg intended, all the fun in trading, mate.
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So is the standard economy actually shit, or is currency just worth less because of various changes to game mechanics over the past couple of years that have made currency worth less because its easier to get?

for example, master exchange rates, more unique drops, strongboxes spewing out currency, ect
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>>125886934
ah nice i can actually click on these "blueprints" or w/e thye were called
cool stuff
listening to the khan
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>>125885613
>memebuild
>not trap bladefall
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Exalted are 70 chaos in shit core
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are the economies still weird in default leagues?
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>>125887470
Yes and they always will be.
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>>125887238
The economy is inflated, but that doesn't really matter unless you're saving up to buy original mirror-tier gear to host mirroring services on that item yourself. Items are usually cheaper than you'd expect them to be until you get to the 20 exalt range and higher. Then it goes full retard. It wouldn't affect you if you play temp leagues because gear in the 20 exalt range is a hell of a lot better than what you'd find in these temp leagues for the same price.
It's actually a hell of a lot easier to get into than the temp leagues because of the abundance of above average items on the market. On the other hand, it's also difficult to get going as a new player by selling your drops because, well, they're going to be worthless for the most part.
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>>125887334
what's the appeal of trap vs self cast anyways? aren't you just wasting a gem slot to be limited to 3 casts instead of spamming it?

is it just because you avoid reflect?
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>Wts Ex: 71 C
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oro's sacrifice cyclone comk bladefall discharge
yee my nig


still nowhere as good as crit flamedab prolif pre awakening
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Why are there scrubcore shitters in /poeg/?
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>>125888216
they cant take the hint
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>Have arc witch i can run ~t7 maps with
>want to get lightning coil
>need triple res belt, helmet, a new ring and better amulet for that
>those cost 1-3 ex each
>i only have 2 ex

How do i find the motivation? I ran maps all day today and got nothing really
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>>125888216
We live among you
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>>125888216
To bait posts like yours.
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diablo 3 >
Tbh

>blizzard was right
-chris wilson, 2015
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Your currency tab isnt a mess... right, anon?
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>>125889789
where do you put the shards...
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>>125889973
In a "to sort" tab that I dump everything I get
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>>125889789
I got you senpai.
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>>125890162
lmao ok
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>>125889789

wwu wen poeg was poor

baka
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>>125887741
gee idk maybe doing like, 3x more damage?
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>>125889789
this is my currency tab
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>>125890313
They really should do something about stackable currency. Four tabs just isn't enough for all of the fusings, chaos, exalts, alchs, divines, and currency in general that you collect over the course of a temp league. In the past, I was forced to create additional characters to be used as mules for my currency. It's pretty stupid.
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>>125890741
buy tabs goy
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>>125890741
yeah eventually i make a 2nd tab for jews, chroms, scrolls, armours and whets
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>>125890646
how? you're wasting 1 gem just to make the skill a trap, then another gem slot to make it throw 3 traps instead of one, and that even reduces the damage

Wouldn't 2 gem slots with something that increases the damage right away would be more damage in the end? and use restrictions besides your mana, which traps use anyway.
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>kinetic blast + gmp + chain
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>>125890983
the tree you tard
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>>125890983
Yeah but none of that affects your town tooltip damage.
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>>125888216

If you think that Hardcore League is hardcore think again. When your char dies on HC, your stash/masters/HO/challenges completed remain. IF you were to play an actual hardcore league, or atleast if it was actualy hardcore, all of your shit would get deleted the moment you press exit/start in town buttons.

You are not playing anything hardcore, scrub.
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>>125891275
It's not like hardcore in d2 deleted your mules or your fg either.
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>>125890983
trap gives more damage, multitraps mostly negate that damage, you still get 3 casts of the spell with no cast speed investment before you can get echo.
Additionally you can get deerstalkers for a cheap and early 5 link.
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>>125890983
It's mostly about insane burst damage that can clear a pack with one cast so you can move on instantly

Plus since bladefall overlaps it does decent singletarget as well.
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>>125889789
no it isnt anon
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how far will stormcloud carry me leveling an elebow char
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>>125886636
to nessa
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>>125892010
Just out of curiosity, what's the tooltip on your bladefall?
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>>125891275
right it doesn't matter so why are you a shitcrow then?
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>>125892307
Along fucking way
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>>125892307
Until you grab a death's harp. You can pick up a pair of Wake of Destruction boots at 28.
The added damage on Sadima's touch gloves should make leveling a bit easier as well.
A three link added light/cold, LMP, ice shot when paired with two elrion rings will make leveling a breeze.
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Alright, so im going to nolife this for 3 days straight, what's the most effective way to get rich?

I can run t6-7 maps atm, have no IIR. I could write scripts that tell me when cheap things appear on poe.trade

What do i do?
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>>125892619
like 30k.

Using BF - Conc - Controlled Destruction - Added Fire - Echo

I really think conc is the way to go. Its still big enough if you have templar and witch aoe nodes to hit a pack in maps so.

I have like some phys nodes at the start of Shadow and then elemental dominion in witch and thats it.

5.8k HP @ 80
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>>125892681

not him but playing sc needs less patience and you can do it with a yolo attitude that would quickly penalize you in hc

you can test setups and approaches to a build nearly risk-free as well (the worse that can happen is you die, so you save those test for when you are freshly leveled)
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>>125893091
How are you liking the skill? Is it fun? What are your thoughts on the poison build people have been talking about the past few threads? Better or worse than what you're running right now? Would you mind dropping your tree in the thread?
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>>125893091
I find faster casting much better than conc, though I still swap it in for bosses to squeeze out as much dps as I can
26k tooltip without conc, 31k without
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>>125893397
Not that anon but there one big advantage of offloading your extra damage on poison dot is that you can then run 1 or 2 blasphemy curses, and aa or some other defensive aura. this can make you hella tanky
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>>125893397
poeurl.com/uxO

I can't really comment on the poison build because I haven't seen it, do you have it? But my build is really close to the poison cluster near Shadow and I am leveling poison and rapid decay in my offhands and will try some shit out.

>>125893632
You only get 5k damage from conc? I lose like 10k.

>>125893810
What do you mean offloading your extra damage on poison? Do you mean because elements don't matter you can use tanky auras instead of things like hatred?
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>tp out of malachai during teleport slam
>tp in
>literal 1hp the moment i come out
>tp protection is still on

did i just survive a bug with literally 1hp?
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>>125894704
:o
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>>125893054
Anyone?
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>>125894672
I have 20k without conc or faster casting, 26k with faster casting and 31k with conc
don't think losing 40% aoe is worth it for just 5k dps
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>>125894672
>Do you mean because elements don't matter you can use tanky auras instead of things like hatred?

only phys and chaos adds to the dot that deals 60% of the hit over 2 seconds with 3 passives worth of investment and the gem. and that becomes your main source of damage. vulnerability can become your offensive curse, if you want to use one. and enfeeble is just great
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>>125895419
do you have the poison tree?
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>>125894704
no you got Chaos Inoculation while you were in town
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pretty sure i just found the new meme build.
Will update when it's fleshed out, and if you guys promise not to post to leddit.
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>>125895905
does it require uniques to be effective?
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>>125895905
i will post it on lebin and the forums and claim i invented it
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>brags about his meme build
>doesnt post his meme build
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>>125896039
>back in forsaken masters make a crit arc witch build
>nobody wanted to use arc anymore because "nerf" but they buffed the crit chance
>post my build in poeg
>nobody cared
>literally 3 weeks later some dude on the forums post my exact same crit arc build exact same tree
>becomes super famous
>as of now his thread has 100 pages and people still use that build
I coulda been famous..
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>>125893091

>added fire instead of faster casting

WEEWOOWEEWOO we got a tooltip warrior here!
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>>125896806
it was me on one of my many sockpuppet accounts

ill do it again
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>>125896821
er, ok. I mean my wand has 18% cast speed on it and with spell echo its p fast casting so I dont see why going faster would be better
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>>125897347
b-b-b-b-b-because getting your cast time from .33 to .27 so you can do 0.06 more skills per second is the way to get /poeg/ to accept you!!
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>>125895905
how long till you post this? the sooner the better, and can you give a slight hint or something? I'd really like to try out your creation.
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>>125896806
>everyone is crit arc
Enjoying my crit Spark here.
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>>125898094
dont hold your breath senpai. 96% chance it will be something retarded that uses kraytin resists
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>no good trade
>no loot tension
>no good pvp
>no good builds all cookie cutter shit
>wonky lockstep/desync system in groups
>shitty animations and clunky gameplay
>runs like shit on top tier system in groups
>6 player limit but nobody even groups up

i mean why even play this over daiblo 3? all the advantages of a game like this turned out to be massive negatives that the community hates. diablo 3 looks and runs better at this point and doesn't delude you into thinking there's something more there when there really isn't. and at least you can play in a public group if you don't want to forever alone mode the entire time. i'd also say their network method is superior. diablo 3's grift/leaderboard is a better competitive meta than watching streamers and rmters win every league.

i mean i'm all for supporting our bros living the dream but poe has stagnated and even regressed. they caved into the casual wants and all the casuals want is for the game to be more like d3. poe is just a crappier version of d3 with a convoluted skill system and downgraded everything else.

d3 is poe's direct competition. ggg needs to start acting like it. poe was good because it offered something different but with every update it just feels like diablo 3: only worse

i mean d3 isn't all that great by any means but it's pretty enjoyable for a few weeks every reset. poe is getting worse and worse every reset and i wonder if anybody but newfags even truly enjoy it at all anymore. people honestly just seem like they're having a better time playing d3. i sense a ton of boredom in the streamers when they're playing poe now. it's not longer exciting, they're seeing it for what it is. the devs didn't capitalize on what poe could have been good at.
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>>125898708
isn't spark shit vs bosses?
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>>125896806
anyone who understands the passive tree could make a crit arc build in seconds, there's nothing unique about it
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>>125887608
100x better than shitty temp leagues though with mass bots and RMTrs hoarding all the exalts.

It's not even top players that are the problem they no life they don't need bots. It's the people using like 50 bots at once to earn big on rmting.

Problem is much smaller on hardcore temp though with bots I thought.
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>>125898873
is this pasta
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>>125898873
i also play d3 senpai

i just dont like the mechanics as much. the story is better for what its worth
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>>125899162
the mechanics in d3 are a joke but that's the point, they mechanics in poe are also a joke. 150% life minimum in every build and just grab the corresponding nodes to the main skill you will be spamming.

d3 has paragon points which is the same thing only there's no hard cap on them so you can keep pushing all season long. once somebody hits 100 in poe it's essentially over. for your inner or outer autist a d3 season never really has to end. you can keep pushing and pushing and maybe you get the perfect mob spawn and top the leaderboards. you don't have to worry about the other guy rmting or streamer handout his way to victory. you can actually compete, sorta.

the story? neither game has a good story, diablo 2 shits on both of them. diablo 2's fits the game pacing perfectly, stays out of the way and is high quality. poe story is some annoying factoid getting in your way by accidentally being clicked on. their lore is possibly the worst implementation in the history of a video game. diablo 3's lore books were better even i mean cmon
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>no good trade
this needs to be fixed and is on the list

>no loot tension
I FUCKING HATE THIS, diablo 3 always had me waiting for that SOJ or game breaking kike item but there is... nothing. Maybe the rare Kaom's or Mjollner or something but who cares they are disposible items and not build makers and game breakers

>no good pvp
Who fucking cares, kill yourself

>no good builds all cookie cutter shit
Yeah, most ARPG's are the same though

>wonky lockstep/desync system in groups
Haven't grouped since pub docks farm was a thing

>shitty animations and clunky gameplay
At lower levels yes

>runs like shit on top tier system in groups
I am on a PC from 2010 and everything is maxed fine (760 though). The only thing that pisses me off is the horrible ram utilization making it so I can't run a VM as everything is packed into RAM.

>6 player limit but nobody even groups up
Yeah, they need to REALLY encourage pub grouping some how, it made the game a lot of fun in the past years. Banning faggots from posting sales shit in the LFG tab would help
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Is Punishment bugged? I am playing a Frenzy/Cyclone build on HC and the buff doesn't seem to be triggering after I cast the curse.
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>>125898873
only agree with loot tension, trade and runs like shit desu
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>>125899673
>At lower levels yes
speeding up the shitty animations doesn't make them any better. there's also the inherent cast delay on skills from cast time that makes some skills literally shit to use and no animation cancelling. animation cancelling in d3 alone is better than everything in poe. the only thing poe has to compare to is flameblast.

>I am on a PC from 2010 and everything is maxed fine (760 though
you just said you don't group retard. the whole point is many people enjoyed grouping in diablo 2 and diablo 3 and grouping in this game is the worst ever. they just try and FOCE you to group with the stupid fucking retarded master missions that nobody enjoys because the game runs like ass in groups and then you have to group to max them in a reasonable period of time before all the autists spam them and get a major edge in master crafting.
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>>125899137
yes of course
>>125899162
the gameplay mechanics are what D3 has above PoE. The combat is so much more fluid and engaging than PoE. This was because of desync for a while but now that's gone they just need to add more movement skills like WB
>>125899593
>once somebody hits 100 in poe it's essentially over
do you realize how long it takes to hit 100? And paragon is retarded as fuck, there's no sense of growth when you get +10 health or .05% crit chance
There are no fucking builds in D3. No reason to make different Barbs or WD or whatever
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>>125899593

in poe gearing up is more interesting

finding ways to sustain your playstyle, skill interactions etc. in d3 all that feels much more "predesigned", which may be better for some tastes

the trade-free aspect of d3 is probably what i like the most of it. and thats why i play in between temp leagues or whenever im bored of poe
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I think this game would be so much better if they introduced mounts
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>>125900031
>The combat is so much more fluid and engaging than PoE.

its reallty now

not saying its bad. but generally slowed paced and shit doesnt happen as fast as in poe
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>>125900026
I do group for masters (zana eg) and it runs alright.
It's the resource caching on opening a box that fucks me in the ass.
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>>125899882
anyone? also is there room in the POEG guild?
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>>125900212
*really not
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>>125899882
I miss old aura reservation
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>>125899882
it works in a weird way, the mobs have to hit you with melee hits to apply the buff
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How do i find groups for mapping?
I wanna run maps nonstop and get the loot buff from parties, but all public groups are just "WTS XY". Is there a global channel for that or sth?
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>>125900439
join
a
guild
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>>125900031
>do you realize how long it takes to hit 100?
yes it has taken about three weeks every single league ergo no time at all and unlike d3 where you never stop pushing for number 1 once somebody hits 100 in poe they won the race to the top. there's no end to the race to the top in d3 you could get the right mob spawn or find the perfect item and have the perfect run and push to the highest grift since grift levels are infinite.

>>125900034
>in poe gearing up is more interesting
no it isn't because it's all based around trade and trade is fucking garbage in this game. you have to use 3rd party tools to trade in order to plan a build based around certain items. using shitty builds that work with self found rares is what most players who play the game wind up doing because it's unreasonable to expect an average player to use 3rd party tools to obtain the items they need. trade chat is a fucking joke. indexers that are not built into the game should not be a requirement.

it's also nice that i can earn everything in game in d3 unlike poe where you always gotta wonder if they were going to make an mtx an artwork for the game but decided to scrap it and sell it to you as a cosmetic instead. i can complete a transmogrify set in d3 just by playing it's a really good system.
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>>125900545
d3 is a dead game though, no one cares. The player base is abysmal.
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>>125900518
Im in a guild with some friends, they're all around level 30 though and i'd rather not leave it.

So no public group finding channel or something?
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>>125900641
not really, it's pretty hard to group with random pubs for mapping
are you hc or sc?
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>>125900621
everyone is on the ptr right now since a new season is coming and then everyone will be playing the new season. you will know when the game is a top game on twitch again as it is with every ladder reset. poe is barely even cracking the top games anymore nobody can stand watching it because it's so fucking boring.
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>>125900719
sc, kinda my first time playing
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>>125900753
I played d3 on release and it was fucking horrid, I got the same spat in the mouth feeling when they "fixed" everythign in the full price xpac like L4D was. It's $20, is it worth checking out or past its prime?

No trading, right? what makes it a better game?
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>>125900545
>no it isn't because it's all based around trade

the thing is, if you can manage your way around trade and learn how to make enough money to at least buy your own shit; then the trade issue is solved

if you cant, then you really shouldnt be playing poe

and about the "earning things in game", kek. after you pay $40 for d3, they better not add mtx
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>>125900385
word
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>>125900545
>yes it has taken about three weeks every single league
how many times have you hit 100?
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>the redditors are arguing about d3 again
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>>125900981
>what makes it a better game?

compared to poe? SOLELY the lack of trading.

thing is, the more youve played poe, and bothered to learn its mechanics, the less you will like d3, how simplistic it all feels, how the game basically tells you what skill interactions to use, etc

if you are the kind of poe player that needs to be feed builds and ask how to link skills even when you see the screenies, then yeah D3 may be for you

but hey, with Ascencion poe may be headed that way
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>>125901209
>LA was good even then
based LA
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>>125900981
They didn't fix everything. Tons wrong with the game still but it's absurdly better than the original game. Once you beat story mode you never have to again. You play in adventure mode which is essentially some fucking beautiful tilesets randomly spawning with random mobs. You can push the difficulty from nomal -> all the way to torment 10 to increase the difficulty, mob density and drops. Eventually you start getting keys for greater rifts which is a competitive mode where no items drop except off the rift guardian at the end. You try and complete the greater rift before time runs out and you get a reward of a legendary gem and an npc that upgrades your gems and some items.

I'm honestly kinda a noob to it all so somebody else probably explains it all better. Suffice to say the end game is nothing like the original D3 which was farming act 3 over again.
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>>125901035
>, if you can manage your way around trade and learn how to make enough money to at least buy your own shit; then the trade issue is solved
no, you can not. it is NOT REASONABLE TO EXPECT THE AVERAGE PLAYER TO HAVE TO USE THIRD PARTY TOOLS TO TRADE. You are a GGG apologist, nothing more. Trade is fucking garbage in this game. The average player will never experience the joys of creating a build based around unique items because trade is complete and utter fucking shit in poe and the odds of planning your build around an item and finding them is almost none. And nobody likes starting over again just to use a fucking item.

>>125901278
why bother when some autist will certainly no life harder than me. i can't be baited into competing for such a lame end game.

>>125901287
>you are the redditor
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>>125901632
>why bother when some autist will certainly no life harder than me. i can't be baited into competing for such a lame end game.
You said it takes no time at all, so surely you can do it pretty easily

Or were you just talking out of your ass? Why not go back to /d3g/? Oh wait it's not there
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>>125901632
>NOT REASONABLE TO EXPECT THE AVERAGE PLAYER TO HAVE TO USE THIRD PARTY TOOLS TO TRADE

i dont think the average player comes to poeg so you may be barking up the wrong tree.

im not apologizing trade, in only telling you why I and other like-minded individuals like poe better
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>>125901349
LA was gamebreaking back then, anon. I still remember when the introduced thorns just to keep players from rolling it.
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>>125901632
>it's a redditor insults another redditor by calling him a redditor episode
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>>125902074
That was the first time my confidence in GGG cracked. I could forgive and ignore the shitty trade system and desync because they might eventually fix it (which they did for desync) but the first time I one shot myself in fucking battlefronts..
And they've continued their tradition of refusing to test anything, destroy builds that are popular just because, and ignore builds that have been destroyed for years
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seriously what could be this new trade system ggg is making, it's been a bajillion years since they announced it
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>>125902906
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>>125902906
They talked about it before bloodlines, saying they would introduce a sort of public stash tab for trading a league or two after the awakening. You list the items you want to sell on the public page, and you can sort through offers via tabs at the top. I hope to hell they've improved on that idea over the past year, but honestly anything would be better than what we have right now.
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>>125902850
it's literally the same shit everytime and GGG never learns
>LA and dual ele cleave is good
>nerf to oblivion
>2hand spectral throw is good
>nerf to oblivion
>max block is good
>nerf to oblivion
>acrobatics is good
>nerf to oblivion
>pizzablast is good
>nerf to oblivion
>incinerate is good
>nerfed too
>not just buffing the SHIT skills
classic, expect bladefall to get nerfed to an unplayable degree sooner or later
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>>125901913
Vaal spark to 100 all day erryday.

Mapping being gated behind RNG is stupid. I ran today out of tier 9 maps and fell all the way back to tier 5 maps. I alch everything and chisel 9+ maps.

>>125902906
Currency would become supreme. Uniques would lose more value as its even more convenient to trade them. To my surprise I could obtain a soul taker for 60c spamming trade chat hard enough while none was listed on poe.trade (and they all were 2ex+ at that time, which was 90c+ on hardcore). ]

I still prefer such a system over poe.trade because there is nothing more annoying than 3 weeks into the league messaging 10 people off which 8 are afk / offline 1 is retarded (wants you to pay in pure scouring/ chaos / fusings / exalted orbs, wants you to pay much more than listed, makes you wait insane times and then logging off without trading) and 1 apparently doesn't want to sell his item
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>>125903865
Anything you can roll with a soul taker this patch? Mana's not much of an issue, and the base damage on ST was gutted a while back. Dominating blow is still bugged with bloodlines, and it was nerfed just this patch to boot.
I ran it as an offhand in a crit groundslam build a while back. Other than running it as an offhand is there any practical uses for the old item?
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>>125903820
Incinerate was retarded though.
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>>125904407
basically dom blow
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Whats the most efficient way to farm if you can only run t4-6 maps?

Just make them blue and run maps all the time, farm dried lake for rares (no IIR though), farm voll for Brittle emperor?
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>>125904407
they nerfed dom blow because they didn't know what effect the buffed melee splash would have with it, it's still a retarded nerf, though.
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>>125901913
>You said it takes no time at all, so surely you can do it pretty easily
The point isn't just how long it takes you fucking moron it's both that it only takes three weeks AND that it's essentially over you can no longer be number one. In D3, you can become number one at any point in the season because there's no hard cap, it's all about continuously pushing to a higher Grift level. It doesn't matter how long it takes at all whereas in PoE it ABSOLUTELY matters how long it takes because whoever takes the least time wins.

>Or were you just talking out of your ass? Why not go back to /d3g/? Oh wait it's not there
Oh sick burn dude you're a shit eating retard. Does it ever seem strange to you that LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE RELATED BOARD ON THE ENTIRE INTERNET has active D3 discussion except for vg, even v?

>>125901947
do you not agree that trade in this game is fucking garbager? you are the problem with poe.
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>>125905221
>LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE RELATED BOARD ON THE ENTIRE INTERNET has active D3 discussion except for vg, even v?
Are all you blizzard fanboys this delusional?
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>>125905407
are you not aware that every major discussion board for vidya has active d3 discussion accept for vg? this place really is a unique snowflake.
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>>125905221
>YOU CAN GRIND FOREVER AND STILL HAVE THE ILLUSION OF PROGRESS!
Also, it takes 3 weeks for the top players, not for you.
>>125905501
>lol general
>hearthstone general
>wow general
truly a unique snowflake
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>>125905501

>unique snowflake

Not that guy, but you are right. And that is the issue. Along with multitude of others.
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>>125905221
>do you not agree that trade in this game is fucking garbager?

nah i agree. it needs to be improved

but i also find d3 just not as appealing as poe, eve in the state it is due to trading
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i'm tired of noobcrows downplaying my HC achievements desu

step it up and do it you'reself before you say it's easy baka
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>>125905501
so you've got plenty of places to go but you decide to shit up this board?
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>>125905854
>>125905854

lol isnt blizzard tho. its owned by chinks
blizz' moba does not have a gen cause only 3 people play it. SC2 does tho
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I've come to the conclusion that my current (relative) success in this hc temp league is because im on a no-fap-until 2016 regime.

I feel more alert, faster to react and can focus on the grind without wishing i was dead.

Having all that cum inside of you really gives you the power to take on PoE.
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>>125905854
>Also, it takes 3 weeks for the top players, not for you.
who cares? whoever it takes 3 weeks for, it's over.
>le illusion of progress
it's no illusion retard you can keep progressing when there's no hard cap. imagine that, you can keep progressing when,,,you can keep progressing.

>>125905854
>truly a unique snowflake
yep. literally EVERYWHERE BUT HERE has active d3 discussion this place the containment board of the entire internet no wonder it's infested with illogical shit eating retards like you.

>>125905928
>but i also find d3 just not as appealing as poe, eve in the state it is due to trading
not having to trade is better than poe's garbage trade system
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>>125906073
this is the only place on the internet that still actively shun d3 so i can't go anywhere else for this kind of discussion
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>>125906535

meh i dont think d3 is shit. i just like poe and grim dawn more.

but its obvious you will not find much echo to your opinions on /poeg/
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>HC
>People grab billions of life/es/evasion/armor nodes because they're too scared of dying, instead of trying fun/risky shit.
>Grind shitty maps forever for the same reasons.
>Alt F4 whenever there is any chance they might die.
>Somehow SC is the casual one.
ebin
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>>125904920
Any pointers? Been running blue maps for 7 hours now and didnt get anything
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>>125907835

i just play hc to get with girls
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>>125907835
>SC
>no adrenaline rush
>dying? lol respawn
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>>125907926
alch all the maps tbqh
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>>125904407
I'm running ice crash with soul taker.

It gives me a link more, 22 mana at 0.30 attacks per second is way too much for me to sustain, mana is still an issue on cyclone and ice crash if you want to 6 link it.

I have it in a bringer of rain and I thought ''hmm might as well switch my build to axes for a while seeing there are only 4 weapons above 300 dps up''.

It gets outclassed though by 340 + dps weapons in my build but they are far more expensive. So soul taker is a good in between step.

I'm running ice crash in a bringer of rain so I have faster attacks ,phys damage, blind. Then for the other links I have cold penetration, weapon elemental damage and fortify which you can switch for added fire, which you can switch for increased AoE if you want to farm lower level areas faster (and lagg more).

I have a lot of attack speed I'm running it iron reflexes and went into the shadow and ranger tree. It's why mana is an actual issue and my build is unplayable without blood magic or a soul taker.

The reason why I went into so much attack speed is that I chill / stun quite a bit with the initial hit. Almost nothing hits me which is really nice.

I have at the moment 24.5k tooltip with fortify and cold penetration + hatred and herald of ash on, 33.9k with bloodrage and frenzy charges. I can still get 2 jewels for some more damage that will likely put me at 38-39k or so. I don't use power charges. I think its best to use enfeeble since I kill everything fast enough anyway.

I also have 47% block and 13k armor unflasked. I can switch around for grace and jade + iron flask if I need a lot of armor but 13k is enough for what I've done so far elemental damage is far scarier atm for my build, it only has 5.6k hp though which is low imo, I lack hp from talisman and shield (1700 evasion one), so normally you would have 6.2k hp using what I'm doing.
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>>125908032
Being an insecure autist won't get you girls f a m.
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>>125908208
this it feels like a mindless grind from challenge to challenge.

Hence why challenge items are always so expensive in there.
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>>125898927
i'm only running up to T8's so far but zero issues. placement can be a problem in large areas, since the anti-shotgun patch the only way to get a "shotgun" effect is to have them bounce off a wall first.

With charges up I hit ~65% crit and damage is usually extremely spikey
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>>125906047
do you use a logout macro?
if yes, you're essentially SC
if no, then you're legit HC and congrats on your accomplishments
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>>125908686

Messi disagrees

ill just be the Messi of poe and get with a streamer camwhore qt
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Is reave with binos a good idea?
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So, I'm making my loot filter, and I'm curious which weapon base types I should look out for, and which ones I should ignore. Like, for bows should I highlight JUST harbinger bows, or should I look out for imperial bows as well? I doubt Maraketh Bow has any value
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>>125910651
>he made a filter without knowing what to filter
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>>125910171
It's definitely not a bad one.
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what will i get /poeg/???
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>redditcore thinks consuming dark is OP and calling for nerf cause prolife was overnerfed

nigger
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>>125910952
corrupted rare amulet
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>>125910767
Gotta start somewhere, right? So, do you have any advice, or what?
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>>125911153
fuck off
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>>125911153
use a premade one
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>>125910952
make sure to turn it in with a character below level 30, all the mods above that are shit.
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>>125911671
yeah getting rushed right now
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>>125910651
Start with no filter, and then you find yourself thinking "I wish I didn't need to see all these fucking act 2 normal bases" filter them out. When you find yourself thinking "it'd be nice if it was easier to see some specific ilevel bases" then make them more visible.

Then later on when you're thinking "my filter is a fucking mess" rewrite it once you know what you're doing.
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for power siphon what should I use? physical projectile attack damage or slower projectiles? ppad seems to add too little damage

send help
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>>125912160
>phys wander
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>tfw you only use more modifier supports

Increases are for the weak.
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>>125912513
what's wrong with it?

isn't this wand good enough for a while? which link should I use instead then? added fire?
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4u hash
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_df0mlYRvYeLUQlVLtUjrYxEvNj0rCp2qXfJsjA5IYqwRlqIu7hW0xX_GBx63dcLs2-eTJ5UuBbVsCHBRbAvviPDVBnCNv-jW8Yp2byL0-TeP-klRTp_UI5smfrBtGdfP7Bh6fzIB2FSX9Aj0SbFkqrIZUlPAVJuGz3qXlT1fvOpqQ2o2YetMs3pTBAeD2x8CVcY2xTpY2CSnCJ2u6-4abDLRmuA26eQiRUdFnSSq1aYpT8BmU1IWb-w4PAUEs-NqOtjvfKIAJy_wH5BVaPIaOFxAVL0V7ZaL1bk=
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>>125913129
which trap link are you using with that?
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>>125913129
top mem
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>>125913506
Not him, but it's clearly poison bladefall.
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Is it true the 26th the premium stash pack is going to be on sale?
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So how much nolife is required to get a brittle emperor from voll on average?

Are there any drop statistics that show if it's 0.1% 0.001% or wahtever?
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>tfw whirling blade-ing everywhere
First time playing since they added lockstep. Fucking incredible.
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>>125914624
Less than a weak if your build can reach voll in less than a minute.
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>>125914703i hope you have fun for a long time anon :3
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>>125914991
1 week of nonstop grinding for 1 card? I dont have the mental strength for that
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>>125913506
Bladefall + Trap + Multi trap + Poison + Trap and mine damage (5L) + Conc Effect (6L)

Bear Trap + Poison + Trap and mine damage + Inc duration for single target
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>>125912769
I never understood the desire for phsy wands, what builds use them?
I haven't been playing for too too long.
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Is Rigwald guarantee to drop unique?
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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABA5YFtQceCGcOSA-rEZYWvxg8Gjgi6iP2JIsk_SaVJy8qCyzhMHEwfDWSOkI64TsoPC1Bh0cGSVFLV0t4TZJN41FHVUtZ813yX7BgQ2HiYqxjQ2yMbj1vnnBScFZyqXX9dweDCYPMhG-HE4nTjDaNfY2_kBuQVZJ9kzqVLphvmhObtZyknaqmV6xmrKq0xbVItz65Pr0nwOPC7MM6xPbGrspK1CPUQth22L3b1Nvn3CPdqOXP51To1vDV8bPyRfLh9zL56P4K_o__3g==

did i fuck up? coc cyclone bladefall
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>>125915197
He's probably taking about 1 week for a full set, people have farmed them in talisman by now
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>>125912769
you'll want a 1.5aps 200dps 10crit wand minimum to phys wand
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>>125916252
>>125915197
If we're talking 1 week, do you actually mean 7*24 hours or 7*8 hours or what kind of measure?
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>>125909548
>messi
>insecure

>you
>the best in the world at poe
>rich as fuck
>an international icon

sure
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>>125915232
do you run any totem with that? and have you tried using temp chains instead of enfeeble for the added duration on your poison and see how much it helps?
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>>125916390
Rng matters but i would say 70 hours maximum.
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>6 link armor drops
>its shit
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>>125917726
vendor it for the challenge :)
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>>125914302
Please respond?
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>>125917953
Ask on the official forum, I'm sure a GGG staff will reply within minutes.
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>>125917020
>70 hours of running to Voll, killing him and repeat

Are there any people who actually did this?
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When going hybrid do you prefer to

Augment a high health pool with an ES buffer (around 5:1)

or

Invest heavily into ES (with ZO and/or GR) and have around a 1:1 split between life and ES
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>these supreme grind challenges that ensure 99% of the player base outside of complete autistic retards will have 3/4 armor pieces.
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>>125918582
#2
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I'm almost out of T6 maps, what to do? They just aren't dropping. I alch'ed all of 'em. T4 maps give like 3% per map. I have no T5 maps.
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Blasphemy Ass mark, or Hatred for crit blade vortex?
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>>125918582
pretty much everyone is going to say #2
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>>125919192
permacurse is too effortless and good
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not bad!
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>>125913129
>>125915232
what do you link to your vaal lightning trap?
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About to try Apex of Sacrifice for the first time. Wish me luck senpaitachi.
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>>125919192
Why not both?
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>>125919483
Why didn't you buy my brittle emperor you fag I need that exa
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>>125919632
fuck off!!
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Guys,

For a lightning strike build do I go templar or Ranger?

Ranger seems nice since it's near the new leech nodes.

Templar seems nice since you can pick up RT easily.
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