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[Some helpful stuff if you're interested in map-making]:
>http://wiki.tripwireinteractive.com/index.php?title=SDK_Tutorials_%28Killing_Floor_2%29
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7H4EpSs1tk
>http://blog.tiaan.com/link/2010/07/24/unreal-technology-udk-hotkeys-shortcuts
>For those interested in Soundtrack modding, Anon recently compiled this list of number codes:
http://pastebin.com/squmr8yn
>Anon's weapon skins and modded Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!axEgHD7L!7d-vuxYC5SBMmADi6cMjlA
>KF2 Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/kf2vg
>Check the pastebin for tutorials, Crash fix, Downloads, Console commands and more:
http://pastebin.com/gCA9DkDw
>Guides for beginners (STATS/STRATS MAY BE OUTDATED):
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=425843240
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=435407843
>Spreadsheet with lots of stats about Perks, Damage, Weapons, Etc.
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GDpg2mN1l_86U_RaDug0glFx8cZCuErwxZLiBKl9SyY/
>Fix mouse sensitivity
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1369921&postcount=9
I suggest you set KFInput.ini to read only to prevent the settings from getting reverted.
>Grind map (Normal zed spawns in a boxed room)
http://kf2.gamebanana.com/maps/187635
REMINDER: Boost Maps are no longer functional. Boosters must use Cheat Engine.
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>>125459957
design choice, there's a good reason only commandos have the ability to see them.
How do I get better at headshot with Gunslinger?
Is demo any good? If so, how do I play him?
post
>yfw ONE IN THE PIPE
>>125460052
ADS
>>125460098
hans is always a faggot unfortunately. Best advice is to buy an extra MWG and toss it on the ground so when you run out of ammo you have a backup. Good teams typically buy a ton of extra weapons for bosses but don't expect pubs to know this. They sometimes pick up and sell the weapons on you.
>>125460052
point and click
>>125460172
>Lack of bullets can be mitigated with penetration and headshots!
That's why they had to add an extreme and redundant head damage falloff to all shotguns :^)
>>125460052
turn crosshair on
At what level does firebug become so OP like you nerds say?
>firebug
>gets full ammo so he only has to worry about buying guns
>gunslinger
>needs half the money to get guns
>zerker
>just need money for 1 weapon
>medic
>everyone drops you dosh
>rest of the perks
>good luck joining at late waves
Daily reminder that Tripwire browses these threads and made fatport the worst literally just because of the cuckmando posting
>>125460042
This is not really what I was asking.
What I am asking is, are health bars being displayed only on hurt zeds a design choice or a balance choice?
>>125460857
Design. Having a million red health bars the second a wave starts would fuck with people's computer.
>>125460320
15, when you can make you own Dresden bombing.
This game would be better if you didn't have to be stingy about ammo
>>125461083
That makes it too easy
>>125460973
How could red rectangles fuck your computer?
>>125461141
Is it not already easy?
>>125461220
retard
>>125461141
I don't care
It would make the game more fun
I missed getting 2%+ damage per level, now anything that isn't 5,10,15,20,25 feels like a chore.
>>125460172
>want to post that in response
>post must be approved by a moderator
Just fucking kill me.
Does the +25% starting ammo on firebug even mean anything if you take fully stocked?
>>125462465
It means you don't need to take Fully Stocked
I honestly dont understand why Tripwire re-designed Fleshy and Scrake so poorly
Fleshy in KF1 actually looked fucking spooky. The way his flesh was rotten, lips missing and eyes covered made him look menacing as he slowly walked towards you.
Now he looks like a manlet with a steroid problem that just rushes towards you.
Scrake has a similar problem. In KF1, he looked almost normal and calm until you angered him. In KF2, he's a large half naked black man who injected way too many steroids on him and went on a killing spree.
>people non-ironically saying zerker is good for any reason
What is this epic meme
>>125462707
Dude the Fleshpound looked more like a manlet in KF1 then it does in 2
>>125462952
>what is parry
nice meme bruh
>>125463013
Fuck that
>>125462952
I really, really like this shitpost.
>>125463076
He got swol son
>>125463076
They really fucked up.
>>125463076
He looks way more the part of "Hulking Tank" than he did in Killing Floor.
also
>Skrake
>who injected way too many steroids on him and went on a killing spree.
That's kind of the point isn't it?
posting this again because i want more opnions
how to fix demo
>>125461363
git gud, learn to manage your dosh, ect.
>>125462525
This is so wrong, the +25% starting ammo doesn't do shit compared to picking fully stocked.
With fully stocked you get all firebug weapons at max ammo.
caulk at 300
trench at 46
flamer/microwave at 400
but if you take flarotov instead of fully stocked
238 for caulk
29 for trench gun
225 for flamethrower/microwave gun
>>125463076
I think this was a reason that involved hit boxes.
The bigger and beefier the fleshpound the easier it is to hit him. I can imagine that thoguht process went into the design choices same as scrake.
>>125463514
give him backup perk instead of on contact
c4 becomes your grenade, you can have only one placed, 7 nades at max level
m79 can be carried together with rpg, m79's price reduced, price of rpg ammo increased and you can carry slightly less of it
hx25 either completely and he gets dualies from the start
>>125464065
meant to say hx25 removed completely.
also a perk choice between dealing more dmg with direct hits and increasing your aoe would be nice, too
>>125463115
>shitpost
There's nothing shitpost about it, zerker is objectively bad in KF2 and contributes fucking nothing since every other class is infinitely better
>>125464326
You're a funny guy, anon.
so what was preventing people from creating 5000 accounts during the freeweekend to get crates?
>>125464515
I'm not fucking joking, anon. Zerk is fucking USELESS and needs buffs badly to be even remotely useful
>Always forced to take a .500 with me as a Medic because I know pubbies will fuck up sooner or later and I'll have to clutch for them
>>125464550
Nothing. Why do you think the market is so fucked?
>>125464705
This. There's a reason every Berserker ran around with the Zwei until hit with the nerf bat.
>>125464705
>Merely pretending!
>>125464905
Except i'm not pretending
>>125464705
>>125464813
>zweicrutch isn't OP anymore
>not using the pulverizer
>5 hours
>no crates
are we really stuck with the 1 crate per week thing?
>>125464996
Pulverizer is shit and still broken.
>>125464813
Joke on you, I tried the Zwei one time then washed my hands in disgust.
>>125465168
Too much blood on your hands from how it killed so easy?
>>125465312
Yes.
>>125463392
Yes, its the point but he still looks fucking retarded for a field medic or whatever the fuck he is supposed to be
tfw no support gf to handle my benis like a DBS
>>125463514
Concussive force needs to knockdown everything regardless of health, currently only really knocks down scrakes every time.
He definitely needs more base grenades a level like in this image, maybe even reducing the cost for his perk to buy grenades in half, if you switch from demo with 4 grenades to firebug you get 2 molotovs to avoid exploitation.
He's probably the class that most needs a sidegrade tier 3 or 4, the zerks sidegrades easy to make but the demo is the most needing of it due to everything of his being single shot.
On contact should probably just be a perk passive, come wave 6 on long if you aren't using on contact with on perk you are so much of a fifth wheel it isn't funny.
They need to fix especially the fleshpound the invulnerability to stun animations, theres alot of animations that exist that if a fleshpound is hit with dynamite during it, it does not care in the slightest, examples such as the raging animation, the jumping attack and the raging chase animation all ignore stun procs whereas knockdown doesn't.
They also need to fix phantom shots, some shots which are seriously out of the safety range do not explode, some shots are also completely phantom where they are visible, they explode and do no damage except that you can instantly shoot again the real shot as the first was bugged, happens often with hx25.
Reduce m79 impact damage but greatly increase the explosive.
These are things i would change straight off the bat without even needing to test.
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=115149
>>125468891
>wow it's fucking nothing
>>125468891
if you want to know how the drop system work, is it really a get item once X time?
>higher chance of getting stuff when playing on a high difficulty setting
>suddenly normal and hard are empty
>suddenly HoE is full of shitters
I can see it happening.
>>125467818
>>125467818
>more base grenades a level
I agree a lot on this, dynamite needs more of a passive kick to them like supports nades, even if only 1% a level. pair it with the 'on contact' skill and fleshies become a bit easier to mess with
>Have to update servers again for no reason at all
>>125469490
Please no, i play vermintide aswell and i have to deal with that shit not here too.
vai se fuder
>tfw only made $9 so far
>tfw some faggot is selling items for $200
>tfw other faggot is actually buying items for $200
AAAAAHHHHHHHH
>>125463076
I prefered that white sick look than this pink super healthy look he has now.
>>125470143
Gah, thanks for reminding me about that...
payday 2 or KF2? which one should I pick?
Which one has the best market? which one has the best leveling system? which one has the less toxic community?
>sell encrypted dragonfire usb for 1.30
>check market the next day
>they're now sellinf for 60cents
wew lads
>>125470717
just go payday 2, i can already tell it's perfect for you
>>125470717
>>>/payday2/
Am I the only one in /kfg/ who feels extremely incomfortable when playing KF1/2 solo? The fact that enemies can appear anywhere and are in dozens just make the game really stressful for me, I'm not scared, but I'm always thinking about getting overwhelmed etc and it makes me play badly.
>>125460320
never, firebug really isn't OP. Its a strong and brainless perk but it's definitely not OP.
>>125471498
>level 25
>usually end up carrying faggots in most games
>sometimes last one alive against scrakes or other big guys
>start solo normal, short game for obligatory item drop
>"uuh better be careful"
ye, it's very spooky, specially farmhouse.
>>125461141
honestly I'm so fucking sick of these MUH HARCORE EXPERIENCE faggots who constantly want everything nerfed and unfun to the point of being basically unplayable.
>>125471632
the spookiness is insane in KF1 for me, it makes the game unplayable
;-;
>join hard with a high level gunslinger
>everything is a piece of cake
>hans
>nigger kills people in 2 seconds even when others try to draw aggro
Was it always like that? I don't remember this guy being so powerful.
>>125471498
I wouldn't say I share your problem, but I can relate.
It's you against the world with nobody saving you if things go south. Specially in KF1 you got this thick athmosphere and a sense of dread. Abandoned places creep me out, even more so if a horde of clones is chasing me down and only me!
I find the game boring solo, it IS a team game and playing just by yourself takes away all the magic of a bunch of guys teaming up to overcome the odds and the situations that are created by that.
Though playing solo might help me being better at clutching.
do you guys have a team or do you play with randoms?
>people zerkwalling on black forest
>one husk kills all of them
wish i could've been there to see it
>>125472245
kfg or randoms for me. And only kfg for HoE, it's feels really easy to play anything below with a competent team.
>>125472245
I play with a friend and then gamble with pubs, sometimes we find good ones, sometimes we have to carry their ass, sometimes they're so bad there's no saving it.
>>125471498
I really don't like playing solo. It feels super imbalanced and just wrong. Online even with pubs is infinitely more fun to me.
>>125471664
I know how you feel, I can understand and appreciate a challenge with some things, but when you talk about nerfing everything to supports level just becauae "you" think you're pro enough, thats no fun.
You basically enhance everything being a damage sponge for others as well as making it "magdump that scrake" meta, instead of how it was when 1-3 members handled it while the remaining team keep them safe from trash and siren/husks harassing. everyone knew what to take on in a role from the perks and now its just a gang up session because everyones lost their strengths
>>125472245
I have a few friends who play the game, but they are almost worse than pubs. It's fun to get drunk and shoot shit with them, though.
If I want to actually play the game to win, /kf2g/.
Is there a limit to how much you guys can carry?
Like if it's sui/HoE 6man and you're the last guy and hans/pat is only on the 2nd phase, would you keep going or would you just say fuck it?
>>125471824
I believe incinerate/detonate really buffed the shit out of his melee, but yeah he's been overtuned for a long time. He can 2-shot you through about 60 armor and 100 hp if you get unlucky and he does his smash attack. Or if he decides to use melee twice in a row instead of guns or something. People are just realizing how much bullshit hans is because the patriarch is actually fun.
>>125473493
I miss dancing with the scrakes, it was nice to have something else to do besides SHOOT AT HIM UNTIL HE DIES.
>>125473571
NEVER GIVE UP
>>125473571
>being a quitter
>>125473571
>last man on 6-man HoE on Hans
doesn't matter if I try or not, takes about the same amount of time once he begins his melee. May as well have some dignity and give him a few rounds to the face while I go
>>125473571
>Giving up
>Ever
I'm taking down that fucker even if I have to use all of my bullets and melee them with my knife
>>125470559
>Pink super healthy look
To be honest that shade of pink makes him look like he's suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning.
>>125474346
this, hans is 99% unbeatable
fucking bullshit melee, I've played over 170 matches and I don't think I've won more than 15
>>125342539
Double fixed
>>125474557
git gud instead of gittin rekt scrub
>Buy two extra shotguns and drop it for the boss wave
>fucking gunslinger takes it and sells it despite being full and having 1,000 fucking dosh
FUCKING WHAT THE FUCK GOD FUCKIGN WHAT FUCKING PISS FUCKING NUGGETS
>>125474557
>that feel of despair when you are the last one alive and hans want to make you taste his dual fangs
>>125473571
I never just "give up" but if hans isn't on his last phase there's pretty much no chance you're going to win solo. Just use it as practice for dealing with his shit mechanics.
>>125473832
Sarcasm or not, I miss it too. The dodging game at least offered you some thrill while you kept it occupied, fantastic times when you played with the DBS in front of it and he tried to rip your arm off
>>125473571
Its either you take the easy way out and die, go down in a fight but show you were willing or prove you can clutch and earn the teams respect on a final blow. The latter two should be how it goes, giving up entirely makes you look ike the carried instead of a carrier
>>125474647
>Pub is zerkwalling
>I buy an extra mwg and toss it in the back where no one should accidentally pick it up
>Double FP wave zerker runs behind the whole team in fear
>Picks up my mwg and dies fighting the double fps he aggroed in a corner
>Rest of team bails from spot
>Last man standing with an empty mwg
>Wipe
Cowardly zerkers are probably the thing I hate the absolute most in this game.
>>125475183
Yes
>>125474647
>zerker buys an extra pulv and sword instead of giving dosh
I understand the puvl, but why the sword?
>>125473493
Well that's the real problem, the harder something is the more sterile and samey the gameplay becomes. Everyone complains about unviable perks and overtuned bosses and shit but that's largely because of balancing to make things hard. When shit's hard people come up with strategies like zerker walling.
I dunno it's important to find a balance between challenge and fun, right now I think tripwire and the community focuses too hard on challenge. Running around finding ammo crates wave 1-3 used to be fun and they completely removed it, support was fun and they nerfed them to shit. Having hans 2-shot your entire team after 40 minutes just isn't fun to me.
>>125472245
I have some friends that i met years ago in KF1 that i play kf2 with
>>125475286
When zerkan, I keep an empty and filled one, the full one usually be snug right in in corner of where I park myself for fleshies, when I hear a roar then its my signal to switch
hi kfg, noob here
How do I be a good demolitionist? is C4 as shit as I think it is?
My only complaint with gunslinger is their grenades are fucking terrible. They can barely kill anything and seem to have really bouncy physics making them hard to place correctly.
Other than that I love everything about the perk, i really love the role of medium zed killer. I primarily focus on taking out husks, sirens, and bloats for the team, but slinger is great at handling everything. Stumbling and tripping big zeds is perfect and the weapons feel weighty and powerful.pls no nerf
>>125472245
With friends it's usually a LAN game, otherwise I'm solo. Once in a blue moon my internet is fast enough to play online.
>>125476007
>How do I be a good demolitionist?
Firebug with Shrapnel perk
>>125476007
Demo is useless this patch
Dont be a detriment to your team, pick something else.
>>125476007
demo in general is shit. C4 is just bad, it has a hidden damage reduction so that every sequential c4 deals 50% less damage with a 3 second timer between dropoff.
Demo only becomes viable when you hit 25 and abuse nuke but good luck grinding that high without killing yourself.
Although to be fair demos do actually help a lot with fleshpounds and large zeds in general with the ability to stun them.
I wish the demo weapon explosions sounded a bit meatier, so it at least sounds like I am doing damage.
>>125476038
Yeah I agree. It feels fun, I feel strong but not overpowered, but for the life of me I barely even notice my grenades. They don't seem to do shit, which can be troublesome when you can have trouble managing large mobs.
>>125476194
Well, you're not.
>Patch MWG so it cannot exceed a dps threshold.
>It's still way more efficient to tap clicks slowly now, up to 3x.
Please just end this tripwire i want to just continuously maser or burn everything
>>125476192
Nukes radius has for the most part, been nerfed to 0.25 its usual radius.
>>125476317
I threw a grenade into a bunch of zeds the other day and the bloats literally just stumbled a bit. I only ever use them to take out groups of clots. I'm not even sure if they can kill gorefasts.
>>125476440
fuck off, if they nerfed the mwg or tap firing in general they need to at least double all firebug ammo to compensate. Don't nerf one of the only good perks to being complete shit like support.
>>125476153
Can I get a tl;dr of perks and their efficiency?
What is the hardest perk to play well?
>>125476326
I can pretend.
>>125473832
>>125474916
Last time I mentioned this I was called a nigger, but I'll stand by it. Scrake Matador was fun.
>>125476716
personal opinion
zerker/medic > firebug > gunslinger > demo (with nuke) > commando > support
zerker - tank big zeds, deal tons of damage, no reloads, fast as hell
medic - heal the team, kill zeds, fast, lots of armor
firebug - deal tons of damage, best scrake killer, best hans killer ammo can be a problem, easy
gunslinger - medium zed killer, great at killing everything, fast, good damage but you have to actually aim and get headshots
demo - nuke in zed time to melt everything in radius, stun large zeds with dynamite and headshots, kill fleshpounds
commando - callout, zed time extension (get kills during zed time), trash clearer
support - waste teams money, give ammo to team, AA12 mag dump large zeds or anything close to the team
>>125476716
Berserker is strong and good at tanking big zeds while everyone unloads, or EMPing Scrakes so they can get decaped in seconds
Commando is a good trash killer who helps a lot by making stalkers and patriarch visible
Support is a money black hole who barely brings anything to the team other than some good firepower after it gets its AA12 almost by the end of the game...
Medic is the guy that keeps everyone alive even if their armor regen isn't that good anymore
Demo is a very slow perk who can stun Fleshpounds, take out groups of mobs and take out half of a FP's HP in 6p HoE, hard to play but still useful despite what memers say, just not a killing machine
Firebug is an excellent trash killer who makes crowds literally explode and melts scrakes and bosses with its microwave gun
Gunslinger is an alright trash killer who's very efficient at taking out big guys quickly if you got enough skill to do it, very good at kiting as well but it's also very fragile
Sharpshooter grenade: deploys sticky stuff, slowing down zeds so you have more time to aim
Good idea?
>>125477364
>sticky stuff
>>125477123
>zerker
>no reloads
3/5 of zerks weapons have ammo pal.
unless you use the crovel/zwei exclusively, there's ammo involved.
>>125477468juri is muh waifu
>>125477498
>using anything other that crovel or zwei
for what purpose?
>>125477468
Yes, like glue or molasses.
>>125477591SHIT TASTE
>tfw want to play support but as much of a money pit as M79
No games let me have fun with shotguns anymore
>>125477364
Cryo grenades that snap freeze zeds for a couple of seconds.
>>125477647you're waifu a shit
>>125477678
That works too.
>>125477738I am too old for waifus
>>125477603
pulv ammo is good on FPs and large crowds
evis is a good trash and EMPed scrake killer
nailgun isfunbut the movement speed decrease for it being his only non-melee weapon is dumb.
>>125477660
Dumb frogposter
>>125477364
I like the idea of a threat grenade which does minimal damage, but highlights the zed permanently (or a for a long duration). It glows red like stalkers do with a commando and you can see them through walls.
>>125477364
Sharpshooter grenade: jarate, makes all enemies visible and makes them take more damage
>>125478007
You have no idea how badly I wish that you could highlight zeds like you can with enemies in Vermintide. If you haven't played that game you can press a key to highlight any of the special vermin so that the entire team can see them through walls and over long distances like the player highlight in left 4 dead. Being able to do that to scrakes and shit would be infinitely helpful. We will never see anything like that though.
>>125478007
I would like for SWAT that all of his weapons can fire darts like the medic, however these darts highlight an enemy and make it take 1-25% extra damage based upon the SWAT who darted its level.
Possible perk tree abilities could be stuff like whatever is marked has less stun/knockdown/stumble resist.
>>125476960
I miss it because KF1 also had stuff like that, little combos you could use to take down the big guys.
Now if you are stuck with a retard team you are fucked up.
>>125478621
to be fair there are still good combos you can do to take down the big guys most people just aren't coordinated enough or have the right team compositions or skill to pull them off. For example a demo headshotting a scrake and a commando/support/gunslinger decapitating them is a really quick and dirty way of dealing with big zeds but almost nobody does it.
>>125478896
that's more of the "SHOOT AT HIM UNTIL HE DIES" but with the added "aim for the fucking head".
With gunslinger I can melt scrakes with no problem, also knockingdown fleshpounds usually gives the team enough time to kill them, unless they panic and run away then you are fucked.
>>125464705
>>125464813
Guaranteed knockdown
200 hp?
Fooking Zweihander?
The more crutches you have, the more it hurts when they're kicked out from under you.
GIT
GUD
Anyone claiming zerk is UP now is a god damn free weekend shitter
>>125479642
>That feel when you carry the team as zerker post-nerf
>Lads be mirin' when you parry Hans and knock his ass to the floor multiple times
>>125464705
kill yourself shitter
been playing zerk since release, its definitely not underpowered
if anything its very close to where it should be, it only needs a few minor changes
just because you can't cheese with 100% bonus heavy attack doesn't mean the perk is underpowered
>>125479642
You have 175 HP now and both the Zwei and Smash got nerfed but yeah, Zerk is still good
>>125479836
>gunslinger
>knockdown big zeds when they come at us
>nobody notices it because they think big zeds are dead
>everyone gets rekt because they stop shooting at them
;_; I just want to be popular
FACT: The only class that is underpowered is Demolitions and that's because he has no actual tier 2 weapon.
I am tired of firebugs. Everytime there is one, the game becomes unbearable.
Finished up my Gunslinger info.
If anything is wrong or could need improvement, tell me please.
>>125479986
You're fine gunslinger, its just everyone just doesn't pay enough attention
>>125480074
If you think the lack of a Tier 2 weapon is the only thing wrong with Demo then I got some news for you man
>>125480142
Does itbugyou?
>>125479642
100% agreed
zerk pre-FIX was an absolute joke that turned HoE into ez-mode
>>125480197
Should be quick draw for the first perk.
Because you can do this: http://webm.land/w/MkEy/
>>125479078
>SHOOT AT HIM UNTIL HE DIES
well what else do you expect? It's a FPS you shoot -everything- until it dies.
It still requires a lot more strategy than magdumping into their chest/body/wherever while they run around wrecking the team.
how did the zwei got nerfed?
>>125480197
you can't have dual 9mm if you have duals of all the other pistols
>>125480609
halved the damage output
it was very much needed though
>>125480197
rack em up is imo a shitty skill. It's useless against anything that isn't a large zed and you should be knocking down large zeds so it's not even that useful against them. The 20% extra damage is useful against everything including chest shots on clots and shit.
>>125480197
>Shoot'n'Scoot
>>125480675
That's why you sell them after you get enough dosh for the rest of your guns
Skills done right more than wrong: Firebug, slinger, medic
Skills neutral: zerk, demo
Skills done wrong more than right: Support, mando
In my honest opinion
>>125480542
at least gunslinger ask you to be skilled, the rest are pretty much a magdump fest.
>>125480197
>16/15kg
?
Medic pistol instead of Dual 9mm
Quick Draw and Fan Fire tbqh.
>>125480609
heavy, light, and poke damage were halved
>>125480965
Gunslinger is the only with fun choices, the rest are meh at best.
>>125480197
>Shoot'n'Scoot
>Using ADS
>Uber ammo
Fanfire might not be the best skill but at least it does SOMETHING and even allows you to empty your pistols into the head of anything big infront of you.
>>125480965
you mean perks.
done right: medic, gunslinger, firebug, zerker
done neutral: commando
done wrong: support, demo
>>125481136
>>125480898
I pick shoot n scoot simply because I hate the way the alternative works. I love faster weapon switching, but holy fuck I hate having it automatically change my weapons while I'm shooting shit. I'd much rather just have my magnums reload.
>>125480074
>FACT: Not a fact
>>125481136
>>Using ADS
>People who just randomly get in the face of zeds and bodyshot everything instead of actually being useful and headshotting the shit
When did /kfg/ get filled with shitters?
>>125480847
Rack 'em up is better. It's 10% more damage per headshot for a max of 70%. Even if you shouldn't bother with it for trash, dumping 7 9mm rounds into a scrake/fp and then doming their heads with dual 500s is a really fast and safe kill if you're good enough.
>>125481425
Hate it too but now I just count my bullets. Fast weapon switching/self heal is too good.
>>125481447
The one time you have to aim at something that is across the map I don't think you'd be moving.
99% of the time you should be hipfiring. If you can't headshot something that is less than 20m away 90% of the time you're a shitter.
>>125481447
>He can't headshot with hipfire
Wew lad.
>>125481247
Support penetration is amazing, he just need more nades or something else to make him cool.
He also needs an ammo change and some skills rework.
>>125481247
>done neutral: commando
>No skill that help you in solo at level 15.
>>125481447
>can't hit headshot with hipfire
every bullet goes dead centre, if you can't hit heads with hipfire you're nothing more than a useless shitter
>>125481712
That just means Commando is a better team perk than Support is.
>>125481809
Actually GS weapons are bugged because they shoot off-center from the middle of the screen. The crosshair for some reason seems right so I've been using it when rolling GS.
>>125481247
Nah, I mean the skills that back em up, firebugs a best example because more range, full ammo, flaretovs, shrapnel, heat wave, splash damage, etc.
Support and mandos mainly build off what they had naturally like more ammo carrying, damage, reloading, carrying weight etc
>>125482345
ahh I see what you meant now.
>5 hotfixes later
>people still camp on Farmhouse, only in another bush this time
DONE
RIGHT
>>125473571
I never give up on the Boss, if I'm the last one left I'll fight on for the legendary win.
I once killed Orange Hans as the last man with, no shit, 1000 ping (turns out someone was torrenting a movie in the background).
It took about 25 minutes but I did it. The server went nuts. They couldn't believe it.
>>125463514
C4 secondary mode for proximity/tripwire detonation
-2 weight on gl40
-200 dosh off the gl
Reactive armor detonated when your armor is broken
Double the RPG damage and up the cost 200
The gl40 needs to be a stepping stone to the RPG
Demo needs to carry both as having 15 rocket in a suicide 6 man long game is literally suicide. You spend more time on the 9mm or with a deagle.
>>125480972
>16/15kg
>?
you drop the dual 9mm later, freeing up the weight for the m1911.
I might be an idiot if I think, that people might be smart enough themself to modify this basic framework into something more fitting to their style.
Med pistols are always handy on any class, hands down. It's like one of the most general gameplay tips you can give to a rookie. But if your team has a medic doing his job, you won't really use that med pistol until maybe the boss wave, atleast from my experience. This "useless" gun could then free up space for something that's going to see more actual use.
On the other hand this might encourage people, specially in pubs to take a bit more care of their mates in general.
I think, I'll add it to the load out and put the "9mm early wave trash clearing business" into a general tip, since it's a cheap and very effective way to save up money for your tier 3/4 faster.
>>125481136
>Fanfire might not be the best skill but at least it does SOMETHING and even allows you to empty your pistols into the head of anything big infront of you.
Both have their respective use, but fanfire "always works" like you said while Uber Ammo is not that impressive without zed time extensions.
Putting it into this perspective having Fanfire on the common perk setup would make much more sense.
Guess I should also switch out scoot'n'shoot. Thanks for the advice and feedback everyone.
I know I'm supposed to use the pulverizer most of the time on zerker, but what the fuck do i do on boss rounds? especially on patty?
>>125482632
Yeah, all these unique, useful and fun traits while others get something which should have been passive. Could have had things like strong knockback with shotguns to push big guys back/lock them in place or mando having some x-ray ability to see enemies behind objects and highlight red so you dont shoot at a wall by accident
>>125484121
duck and weave son
duck and weave
>>125484121
use the pulv?
>especially on patty?
patty does less melee damage than hans, just LoS when he fires explosives
>>125480197
>Deagles
>also good to decap mediums
they decap everything, magnum is pretty irrelevant desu
>>125484310
Not him but how the fuck do I keep Patty's aggro on me? He always seems to run after somebody else
>>125484348
>1 leg shot to knock down FPs
>stumble on HS
>good for speedkilling FPs
>irrelevant
>>125483343
>mfw next hot fix all foliage becomes solid blocks and jump height is halved
>designing demo's weapons
>Tier 1
>intentionally make explosion radius too small to hurt player
>make it one-shot any trash
>it can easily kill multiple trash in one shot
>people try using it like every other T1
>aim for head, miss half the pellets
>bitch about it being weak
>they're too dense to realize they're using it wrong
>>125484508
from the spreadsheet
>>125484872
>childs
>>125484252
>X-ray ability
Might be cool
>>125484834
you shouldn't still be playing normal with a lv25 perk mate, the game really picks up when you get into suicidal mode
>>125484872
>>125485023
>Patriach
>Hans randomly gets it out of his asshole that he wants to melee the Medic
>The entire boss fight goes down the drain after that
I love the fairness of this fight.
>>125487703
>everyone didnt buy medpistols
ONE WEIGHT
>>125487867
>Med-pistols are enough to keep people alive on HoE Hans
No, nigger.
>playing on pub
>things starting to get heated as waves go on
>this track comes on
>turn on vocals
>turn into headshot machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvSNYSzASww
anyone else?
>>125487703
>relying so heavily on 1 medic that everyone else forgot to get medic pistols.
>being in the open so he can shoot you from a distance or catch up easily to tear your asshole.
>playing a shit perk and not being able to solo hans by baiting him with corners/doors while chipping away at his health
git gud
>>125488959
So glad I mute the shite ost, fucking hell.
>>125488959
Don't vocals start working on the next track after you enable them mid-game?
>>125488959
>not having the anarchy reigns mod
>>125489364
bruh i don't even like metal but this gets me in the mood
>>125489364
Same. I have no idea how some of the no taste assholes here hype up the generic radio rock soundtrack.
It's the same bland ass "we wish we were Pantera" music that's been shitting up metal for the past decade.
>tfw still can't jump on top of the car in Farmhouse
>>125488959
>playing on pub
>things starting to get heated as waves go on
>this track comes on
>turn on vocals
>turn into headshot machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMfyAzZ51A8
anyone else?
>>125489632
Even better when the zeds have no problem teleporting up and down on the thing while it's a solid wall for you.
>>125452907
here's the full screen then. I have a solo clear with evis and my assists only totaled up to 4, so trying to imagine someone with over 60 assists on solo is pretty amusing.
reminder evis is a good weapon and using knife as zerker is fun.
>>125489721
>moonrune music
gtfo
>>125489627
>unironically listening to metal outside of video games
>>125489721
>You piece a shit-ey
What a rude song
>>125489528
>>125489627
I don't really like metal either but the ost is still fucking gay.
They should add something like this, it's about the only metal I've heard that gets me going.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ror8YI80L5g
>>125489206
Yeah, I sure want to see a Berserker kite Hans for 30 minutes.
So you can still idle in one spot on farmhouse and win?
>>125489991
>Talking shit about the KF2 OST and posting this putrid shit as an alternative
Re-evaluate your life anon holy fuck.
>>125490260
dunno about farmhouse but there are a few exploit spots in black forest TWI still hasn't caught
what a pair of shitty maps
>>125489865
>implying Black Sabbath, and Metallica aren't worth listening to.
>>125490505
THREE MONTHS
>>125490518
totally overrated due to Baby Boomer's nostalgia to be quite honest with you family
>>125490382
Like I said, my man, I don't really listen to metal. I just really find the ost boring.
>>125490505
the amount of invisible walls shows that those maps are rushed as fuck.
Maybe patriarch or zedconomy costed them lots of time?
>>125489991
>shitty grunge metal
Wow shit taste much.
>>125490518
>unironically posting this
>>125490692
>Trying to shoot RPGs with all those invisible walls
>>125490879
Care to give me some recs then?
>>125490953
>Can't even get up in the top of a fucking car
>>125490995
Anything other than that.
>punch scrake with my 9mil
>kills him
>>125490995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE
>>125491169
You fuckers are the worst.
>>125491241
I like thatunironicallybut I prefer future funk.
>>125491227
Anyone has that webm of the guy killing Hans with the last shot of his 9mm?
>>125491169
>anything other than [grunge metal]
>anything
>coldplay
>nickelback
>justin beiber
those better cunt?
>out in the open
>no armour
>"ONE IN THE PIPE"
>yfw
>>125491578
>last one alive
>LET'S TRY GAS
>>125491568
A little bit, yeah. They actually have rhythm.
>>125491578
It's ok, I'll just get in cover quic-
>THE SKY IS FALLIIIIIING
>>125491685
>LET'S SEE HOW BRAVE YOU ARE!
>>125491685
that would be your face back in 1008. now it's literally just and annoying fart that obscures your vision a bit
is the ballistic line a thing from KF1? it's been a long time since I played KF1, does it hold up well?
>>125491685
>gas
>doing anything
oh no 6 damage dot ticks!
>>125479642
Yeah zerk was way OP, I carried a 6 man sui game as a level 10 zerker
Any way to break FP's bullet blocker charges? Is it worth going for the legs with high stopping power guns?
>>125491865
>>125491924
Give me hans most dangerous line. That one that strikes fear in the heart of any soldier.
>>125492142
Nobody cares about his old smelly gasass anyway.
>replace Strasser's taunts with the German taunts from RO2
>WHEN I'M DONE WITH YOU EVEN YOUR OWN MOTHER WON'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE
>CRAWL BACK TO YOUR HOLE RUS SWINE
>[unintelligible German screaming]
>>125492142
COME OUT COME OUT LITTLE PIG
>>125492386
Jesus, they really nailed the hatred between the Germans and Russians
