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!! SERVERS ARE DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE, CURRENT ETA: SEVERAL DAYS !!

Offline Mode Edition

OLD: >>123940138

>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/
>Eye isn't showing up!
Please ask in thread, we will be happy to help

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4 [Embed] [Embed]
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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I am using this goddamn beast cutter and I DGAF
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COMPLAIN LOUDLY TO SONY AND FROMSOFT. MAKE THEM FEEL BAD AND HURRY THE FUCK UP.

THIS DOWN TIME IS COMPLETELY INSANE AND UNACCEPTABLE.
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>introduce a weapon with A arcane scaling
>you have to grind +ARC gems to get even a fraction of the AR you'd get with another weapon

Somebody at Fromsoft needs shooting.
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>force myself to finish fallout4's mainquest because i know i'll never pick it up again if i don't
>oh boy i can't wait to play bb
>maintenance for years
>mfw
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xth for freeing the Great Ones from prosecution
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>>123969246
>>123969246
This general is just as bad with reddit links in the fucking OP you retarded vileblood. How do you think i got lead to there?
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>>123969478
BLAME THE FUCKS WHO TRIED GETTING IN A DLC FOR FREE BECAUSE 20 EURO IS TOO MUCH MONEY FOR THESE GREEDY FUCKS
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>>123969562
Chalice dungeons killed any serious end game content.

I hope they add "Dark dungeons" to DS3 so that all Miyazoki fanfucks shits themselves.
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>>123969472
Some more Cainhurst.
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>>123969605
>builds
b-but they're all max level
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>scourge enter right leg first
>healing animation
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Okay so I'm still very new to BB, I'd like to try a bloodtinge run for guns and the chikage but it doesn't seem like there are many melee weapons that scale on it, is there by any chance a bloodgem that can be slotted to X weapon to make it scale on bloodtinge?
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>>123969605
leddit overlords have spoken!

554 new meta.
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So what exactly is the secret that Maria tried to protect?
I just beat orphan and slain the nightmare accidentally.
So this child of kos went back to the sea. Did the hunter free it from its nightmare or something?
I am completely lost on the what the fuck is going on in this DLC.
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>>123969669
NO. BLAME SONY/FROMSOFT WHO THOUGHT THE RIGHT IDEA WAS TO SHIT ON PAYING CUSTOMERS WHILE THEY FIX THEIR OWN FUCKUPS.

THEY FUCKED UP. NOT US. THE REAL VICTIMS ARE PAYING CUSTOMERS WITH VALID LICENCES FOR THE DLC AND PAID PS+ SUBS
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>>123969714
my favourite zone. I love doing it every single playthrough
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What's yharnam like when its not the night of the hunt
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>>123969714

>cainhurst
>Not the best zone in the game

Pick one and only one.
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>>123969592
Don't you start now, Elloryfag.
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I just got a PS4 and this for Black Friday. How do I beat Bloodstarved Beast? His first two forms aren't bad but I'm constantly poisoned from his third just can't beat him.
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>>123969852

Less different than you might think.
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>>123969562
and which weapon is that? because kos has the highest multipliers i've seen so far.

AR shown isn't everything.
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>>123969669
What are you talking about
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>>123969890

The poison builds up when you're close to him. If it's getting too high, back away and let it go down or swallow an antidote.
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Is there anyone here who thinks making the "perfect" build is completely laughable? You faggots will argue endlessly about how much endurance and vitality you need, and restrict yourself from the low-level Hunter Tools because you want to be "optimized" for each other. Do you think Maria, Gehrman, and Crowsteel care about how "unoptimized" their 15 Arcane spec is? No, they just see Quickening as an enjoyable, useful technique, so they employ it. Maybe you should look to them for guidance, /bbg/.
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>>123969605

Oh sweet my VIT/END/STR/SKL/BLT/ARC build is the new meta
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I've never played an Arcane build, what are some good weapons to use with Arcane builds until I get Kos Parasite?
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Level 120 is the meta
No one gives a fuck about /bbg/'s tripfags trying to force 98 but the 5 people this general has after a month
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>>123969714
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>bought PS+ just for ToH
>maintenance for a couple of days
Thanks From, and thanks Sony for making me pay for my internet again.
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>>123969624
Literally who cares?
Information is information. Just don't be like >>123969605

I personally just hate how nice everyone pretends to act, like their sucking the cock of the person they're talking to while trying to pat them on the back for being a good boy.

>>123969890
Black church garb and a saw weapon with fire paper.
L2 to parry his attacks, then run up and R1 to visceral.

For phase 3, literally just R1 spam before your HP runs out, don't try to antidote during that time, just heal through it.

Also, stick to its right side.
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>buy a PS4, Bloodborne and PS+ yesterday
>maintenance for several days, at which point I will have finished the game
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>>123970091
>Arcane build
>build
Arcane use all STR and SKL weapons.
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>>123970017
>4 QSB and a long cast animation for like 5 seconds of slightly faster dash
Neither enjoyable nor useful.
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>>123969852
Well it doesnt stop their addiction to blood
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>>123970231
>Can't even farm for gems now because of maintenance
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I hope the servers being offline won't make them less active when they come back on.
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>bloodtinge builds got an anime as fuck aoe spell which throws enemies in air as well as ranged weapon which transforms into a sword, with ability to do a rapid poke when you transform it after shot
I really get a feeling someone in dev team just played through kiseki 3rd and decided to adapt Kevin's moveset to BB.
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>>123970252
I meant are there certain weapons that work better with str/skl and arcane.
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>>123970252
>Kos Parasite

Checkmate :^)
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>>123970298
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>>123970426
It will make them more active, if anything.
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Have you made contact today?
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>>123970017
Fuck of level 500 from reddit.
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>>123969943
People figured a way to play the DLC for free you clueless fuck
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Look at all the crybabies being all cainhurt.
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Is there a maintenance and how long will it last if so?
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>>123970747
That was terrible.
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>these hunters with the new whip weapon are kicking my ass
>finally get past them and open that side door to the lamp
>now I guess I have to get through a goddamn river of blood filled with these blood sucker tick things from Cainhurst

I am not NEARLY blood drunk enough for this shit.
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>>123970514
And that's all I got from Cainhurst for now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TJrw5gwx-o
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>>123970336
Why do you need to be online to farm for gems?
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So I'm still not high enough of a level to get through the DLC but I did run through and grab the two weapons I want and they're fun as hell (Pizza Cutter and Beast Cutter for STR build) and I was wondering how the Fist of Gratia is for PvE? I use the hunters pistol just for parrying and I'm considering either the cannon or the gatling gun as a second weapon, but the Fist has be interested. What exactly does it do? Can you counter with it? Does it damage decently?
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>>123970773
LITERAL DAYS. NO EXAGGERATING. MAINTENANCE ENDING WITHIN THE NEXt 6-12 HOURS WOULD BE A HUGE SURPRISE AND IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY.

GO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE.
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>>123970781
Vile even.
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Did anyone noticed that Orpan's melee attacks look somewhat similar to some untricked Saif slashes?
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>>123970465
You can use it without rune with flat gems to punch people
>300AR punches
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is there any reason to upgrade guns if you're not doing a a Bloodtinge build?
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best armor for chikage? knight is too faggy btw
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>>123971018
Well his placenta already looks like a giant fleshy saif.
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>>123970809
I was super excited for this, but I haven't found a use for it.
No parries, just staggers at the expense of about 35 stamina, I'd say.
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if you use bolt paper on the pizza cutter and then use the buzzbuzz attack, does the bolt paper proc constantly?
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>>123970847
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>>123970796
I feel like an idiot now.
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>>123971057
making 36 damage with the thunderbuss is better than making 6 damage
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Just to be clear, the PS fans are staying in this general for Dark Souls 3 and avoiding /dsg/ correct? i knew we had discussions about it but i want to know if anyone else remembers. They're still talking about 4kings "poster" even though i never ctually aw said person post and two threads back spamming dragon butts.
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>>123970847
Fuck sake.
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>I need to be online to play
Why is everyone freaking out?
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>>123970809
It staggers the living shit from enemies.
Certainly has its uses against enemies with high hyperarmor values.
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>>123971243
just pvp babbies getting their panties in a twist
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>>123971229
Just create /dsgPS4X1/
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So is it worth it to make a build for the boom hammer? or should I just go for Amy's arm since I like the boss anyway and seems better anyway
I was thinking something like
40 VIT
20 END
30 STR
13 DEX (Cannon and gattling gun)
base everything else

Should I go for some arcane? 15 or more?
I really just plan to use the weapons instead of magic anyways
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>>123971243
MULTIPLAYER IS THE EXTENDED REPLAY VALUE OF THIS GAME. MANY OF US DO NOTHING BUT CO-OP/INVADE WHEN WE PLAY. NOT TO MENTION PLAYING THE BASE GAME WITHOUT ANY OF THE ONLINE FUNCTIONS ACTIVE FEELS LIKE A WASTE.
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>>123970835
Are you joking
Sony what the fuck are you doing
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>>123971229
>this thread is any better than /dsg/
pure delusion

it's like when ds1 went to pc and everyone claimed the threads went to shit.
they were ALWAYS shit
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Holy sheeit, one of the brain ladies before Orphan dropped a fantastic gem.

Physical attack +22.3%
Increase stamina cost 3%
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>>123971294
>pvp babies
said the general having problems with Laurence and needing a summon for it.
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>wake up
>servers still down
>someone shoot those fuckers who tried to steal the dlc
bloodborne was at its peak with all the pvp/pve summoning ques
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>>123971243
>tfw starting a pure STR twink right now and will probably finish the story in 2 days anyway
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>>123971243
Dungeons
Co-op
PvP
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>>123971294
Eh. It's kind of silly. The servers will be packed as soon as they're back up; they've been active as fuck since DLC dropped.
In the meantime, this stops absolutely no one from playing the game/farming gems/making sick webms of how fast you can kill chalice ebribi.
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>>123971083
Hm, is the damage decent? Seems like kind of a waste.
>>123971253
Good to know, what kind of enemies are you referring to? I feel like most enemies stagger pretty easily.
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>>123970784
>the hunters won't aggro the bloodlickers
>their attacks won't even do collateral damage

I guess the giant, hairy tick monsters aren't beastly enough for them.
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>>123971348
So farm some more gems and make another twink
It'll be over before you think.
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>>123971408
>mfw casual will drop game
>no invasions
>so summons

Orphan killed by 2% of players
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>>123971368
>it's like when ds1 went to pc and everyone claimed the threads went to shit.
That is absolutely true. We could have had bloodborne in the Dark Souls thread but they didn't want us posting there.
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>>123971506
But your skinny ass looks a lot like candy to them.
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Has anyone managed to get a decent look at the tattered shawl on Ludwig?

I can't tell if it's from the white church set or the tomb prospector set.
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>>123971347
Any help with this?
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DLC bosses ranked by difficulty, NG+

>1. Ludwig
Fuck this bastard. Fuck him. I had to summon for the first time ever and even then I only beat him because Based Valtr magically didn't rush into his AoE in phase 2.

>2. Laurence
Still haven't beaten him after a few tries. His crawling phase reks me.

>3. Orphan of Kos
Pretty decent fight. His attacks are easy to dodge though.

>4. Lady Maria
One shot her. Probably my favorite boss fight. An honest duel between two powerful hunters.

>5. Living Failures
Celestial Emissary 2: Cosmic Boogaloo. I did have to use quite a few vials.
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>>123971580
PC players are like furries.

Ruining everything they touch.
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>>123971464
>is the damage decent?
My 50 str does something like 180, if I remember right.
Don't try to do it when co-oping, just like parrying, it doesn't work half the time.
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>>123971454
>this stops absolutely no one from playing the game/farming gems/making sick webms
Actually it does. WebMs of boss fights are pointless. Playing the game with no risk of invasion and no player phantoms/bloodstains/messages is lacking experience. It's better online.

>>123971550
No. Playing offline is fucking dumb and feels like a waste. It's missing certain feelings/features. Not okay.

Fromsoft/Sony had better fuckin' realize that people treat these games as more than singleplayer ARPGs. Without the network features, BB is a shell of a game. The online is the beating heart of the game once you've played it more than twice.
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>>123969370
Anyone able to give me some help with where to put points in a BL98 chikage/simons bowblade build?
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Can I chalice without online?
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>>123971714
DeS threads was not better. Circlejerk 24/7
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>>123971624
So is the Beast mode even remotely viable in PvP?
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>>123971714

What if they're furries and pc users? Also people like that are everywhere not just pc. Look at yourself for example.
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Post based Old Hunters.

The Queen Killer is amazing. I managed to finally beat Defiled Watchdog thanks to his help.
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>>123971374
I just farm them on my new characters, fuck chalice dungeons.
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>>123971794
25skl/50blt/14str for bloodletter :^)

>>123971798
You can make them, but not search them for free.
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>>123971819
It is mediocre as fuck, nowhere near kin mode.
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>>123971847

>not doing it solo on your first kill
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>>123971624
>>123971819
Didn't mean to reply, but it's the Prospector's chest
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>>123971561
>casual will drop game
The casuals weren't invading. The casuals are stuck on bsb. The casuals are ringing in front of gascoigne, are you gonna miss invading them? This doom and gloom is fucking silly
Yes it sucks
Bite it up buttercup
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>>123971798

Uhh, duuuh.
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Im that guy who was at work and couldn't post his hoonter.

Is there a better method than
>press /hold share button
>upload screenshot to facebook
>download
>upload here again

also post your hunters
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>>123971815
>If it's not constant shitflinging it's a circlejerk

Never understood this mindset. Probably because it's utterly fucking retarded.
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>>123971874
Oh okay. That's fine. I'm going through the line up of chalice dungeons as fast as I can at the moment.

Was at Rom waiting for an Anon when I learned the servers were down and I couldn't summon him.
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>>123971734
Damn shame. At least the Gatling Gun looks fun. My character has literally no points in Bloodtinge though. I seem incapable of making a build that fully utilizes the left handed weapons.
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>>123971932
No. Wail and moan and cause a mess. Server downtime longer than 24 hours isn't acceptable even at all. Especially when the DLC is so fresh and there's so many new players. Especially on a subscription fee based service.
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>Mfw people PAY to wait for servers to go back up
LMAO
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>>123970792
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>>123971243
You can't farm chalices without online.
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>>123971981
Insert USB, save screenshot, go to your snapshots and videos thingy, copy selected videos and images to USB drive.

It will also copy them as Jpegs and not as whatever the fuck format it would make them when you diwnload them from twitter.
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>>123971758
>playing offline is fucking dumb
Ok. Get super fucking mad at it and wail your lungs out against that mean old from.
This will not kill the game.
This will not kill co-op.
You're fucking retarded if you think it will.

I'm gonna go farm gems for my next invasion. Keep at the THIS IS A SHELL OF A GAME though. Maybe it's time you took a break.
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>>123971561
Even when BB has the least players, in late summer before DLC announcement, i was able to invade virtually anywhere with great success just by knowing that i had to move around during invasion attempts.

Now even this ain't needed and the game will alive for months thanks to dlc, complete edition and black friday bringing new ps4 users.
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>tfw the most generic DLC weapon (design wise) is the most fun

Suffering
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>whispers in the hamlet

it's the trailer voice and another.

''a call to the bloodless wherever they be''

''curse the fiends there children too''

''a curse is upon the fiends''

''fix your ears''

''the blood moon is coming''

''Kos is dead''

''Kos is dead, her baby bait (fake/bake?)''

''scales (scares?) us..''

''Dear Kos...''

''a rotting seed (sea?)''

''(a pox?) this curse, (upon?) this sea, source of all greatness **** in me, a call to the bloodless wherever they be''

"Mother is dead and her baby is cursed"

Get some headphones and help me transcribe, they overlap each other hard.
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>1:11am japan time
rip servers not going to be up until maybe they wake up.
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>Don't own PS+ because it's a shitty deal
>can't even access player messages or chalice glyphs without it because every single multiplayer features is locked out behind a paywall.
This is some bullshit. Fucking sony, how do people defend this degree of jewery?
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>>123972059
>14 day trial master race
I will never pay for multiplayer.
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>>123972152
>Implying the Rakuyo isn't more fun
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>>123971981
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>>123971981
>Nightmare still on
Step it up senpai.
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any decent essays on the themes of Bloodborne?
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>>123972148
pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
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>>123972148
US has much more players than EU
>GGxrd with fuckin 20 people
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Can we do one of these

Best Tier:
-Whirligig Saw
-Beasthunter Saif
-Church Pick

Top Tier:
-Rakuyo
-Amygdalan Arm
- Bloodletter

still really good Tier:
-Beast Cutter
-Kos Parasite
-Simon's Bowblade

low Tier
-Boom Hammer
-Holy Moonlight Sword (requires too much to use full potential and even then the LHB is still better.


This is how I feel right now about the dlc trick weapons. Though even the low tier is still better than many of the maingame weapons like the stake diver. Also keep in mind that I was thinking primarily of pvp whilest making that list. Bowblade, memesaw and the Beastcutter would the best if i would be making pve
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>>123972387
>Amygdalan Arm
>top tier
Kos Parasite is top tier
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So these Undead giant fuckers in the chalice dungeons, the ones with the clubs and chains, are they parryable at all? Do I just need to git gud with my timing? Or are they as fucking cheap as they seem?
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>>123972387
>Also keep in mind that I was thinking primarily of pvp whilest making that list.
>Saw at the top
lol
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>>123972205
>14 day
How? It only gives me the option for a 2-day trial, which is fucking nothing.
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>>123972357
I'm EU and have more than 200 GB of BB invasions, only recording the best moments.
There's lots of muriclaps playing with worldwide on, so it doesn't matter.
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What could have happened to warrant SEVERAL DAYS of maintenance?

Everything seemed fine to me, matchmaking seemed fixed. But it's an emergency maintenance.
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>>123972507
comes with ps4.
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Is bloodletter in combination with simons bowblade for range effective?
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>>123972321
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>>123972507
Create account on official site over and over again. Use 20minmail and virtual credit card with 2$.
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>>123972550
FREE DLC EXPLOIT. THE DOWNTIME WILL BE SO LONG BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO PATCH THE ISSUE.
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>>123971347
No help with this?
Should I just continue with a skill build?
are all str weapons not as good as skill weps?
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>>123972492
Shittiest bosses in the chalice. Literal hit&run boss, there's no way to safely be aggressive and maintain pressure. Just back off when they attack and go back in for a few pokes, they have no real blindspot when they start spinning and lingering hotboxes.
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>>123972575
Yeah. For invasions and PvP i always recommend a long weapon and a fast weapon.
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>>123972387

Bloodletter out preforms whirlygig for pvp imo. Faster dash r1, and the L2 is pretty much WoG with stupid active frames
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>>123972550
people were stealing dlc due to a bug and now it affects all of us.
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>>123972494
Saw is one of the best strength weapons in my opinion. Maybe its just a get used thing but it has good range and is surprisingly fast for its kind. You can argue that strengh itself shouldnt be "besttier" but I wanted to include atleast one str to it
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>>123972575
Bloodletter is most effective on its own, transforming and swapping it out is the only way to make it less efficient than the chikage
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>>123972575
The problem with bloodletter is that any time you use a gun or swap toa different weapon, you'll have to re-trick it and consume another chunk of your own health. Once you start using it, you're effectively stuck with it unless you're okay with throwing away a bloodbullet's worth of HP
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>>123972387
>Also keep in mind that I was thinking primarily of pvp whilest making that list.
Aside from Bowblade being that low you pretty much posted the PvE tier list.

For PvP it's Bloodletter and Saif in best tier.
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>>123972635
>>123972714

Wow. That's crazy
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>>123972174
Where is the best place to hear it the ambient noise drowns it out quite a bit.
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Is anyone here elemental whirlisawaster race too?
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Can I get the Accursed Brew without the Milkweed rune?

I stupidly fucked up the Adeline quest.
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>>123972685
Fuck, I was hoping there was some trick to them other than "dodge everything, whittle them to death".
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>>123972492

Hit and run. Its the worst boss in the chalice.

>tons of health
>fight goes really well for 15 minutes
>he hits you once and you are dead

Fucking stupid.
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>>123972754
>>123972753
>wear guidance
>use transform attack
>regain the full cost of the transformation

Also,the cost isn't even close to a Blood Bullet infusion. It's like half of a Blood Bullet.
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>>123972820
No, but the only way to fuck up the adeline quest is to kill her. If she's alive you can still complete it.
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>>123972584
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>>123972817
yes
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>>123972849
>wear guidance
>hitting the transform on someone who isn't retarded
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>>123972817
Master race*
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>>123972868
Guess what I did.
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How the fuck do you do correct recording with the PS4's video thing?

Every time I want to save a clip of something that just happened, it always shows me a preview of older clips or what I'm doing right now.

Is there any way to set when you want ps4 to record at the spot you want?
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>>123972931
Why?
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>>123972931
Retard.
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>>123972925
>implying
It's fast and has big range. You can use it after a backstep or backwards dash. It's really quite strong.

People who only use one half of Bloodletter are shitters. The transform attacks are stupid strong and if you have high BLT, it's nice being able to shoot stuff.
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>>123972891
What vit/end and arc are you running?
I have no idea what to aim for
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>>123972940
press share two times in row - start recording
press one - end recording
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>>123972960
I read that you had to kill her but I did it too early.
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>>123973013
Is the bloodletter tranformed mode one handed?
Also do you get bloodletter early in the dlc?
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How do you guys bring yourself to spend days farming Chalices for good gems?

The Chalice dungeons were so fucking boring to me that i didn't even make it through the main ones. I wish i could participate in the Bloodborne PvP but i think i'd rather kill myself then spend days playing those shitty chalice dungeons over and over again on every single new build that i make.
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>>123973169
no and no
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>>123973040
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>>123972803
the first enemy after the lamp, right where he crawls out
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>>123972886
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>>123973169
>Is the bloodletter tranformed mode one handed?
non-transformed is onehanded and a mace. You trick mode it to make it into a huge two handed morning star.

>Also do you get bloodletter early in the dlc?
No. It's found in the final area of it at the second half
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>>123973224
The nain chalices are boring af, its when you get into the ones with adition rites when things get fun
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>>123973224
I feel the same. I can barely finish the main chalices, I'm in defiled right now. I'm happy with the gems I get from the brain trusts.
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>>123973243
Is the damage good from the saw? Betwr than what the physical would be vs beasts for example?
Also appreciate the help
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>>123973013

Well, aside from the transform attack the 1h moves is tonitrus tier. Can't blame people for sticking with the godly 2h moveset.
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>>123973169
It's 3 bosses deep, halfway to the 4th boss. The 1-handed untricked mode has 0 blt scaling and is a shitty strength weapon, the tricked mode is 2handed (no firearms) and consumes a % of your max HP every time you enter it, so you can't freely swap between forms to use a gun without killing yourself. Transforming can actually kill you.

As someone mentioned, the untricked->tricked transform attack has extremely boosted rally potential and with guidance rune can instantly restore the transformation cost if you hit something with it. Also does a fuckload of damage.

In pvp, though, you basically never want to un-transform it or switch weapons once you've transformed it. Fortunately it has an AoE explosion attack that's nearly an instantkill and doesn't cost qsb
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What's a good weapon to use in the mean time whilst I aim for chikage and then bloodletter?
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>>123973013
wait the move you stab yourself is fast and has big range? i'm not so sure about that.
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>>123973224
You can run them in a few hours once you know your way around. Beat game and then use your 80-90 char to run the basic ptnumeru dungeons in like 1 hour, then do ailing loran, then defiled, then lower loran then isz and ihyll.
All in all, you should be ablt to do a full chalice run in about 3 hours, less if you plan ahead and ask for help ahead of time for the annoying bosses like Rom, Loran Darkbeast, Headless Bloodletting Beast and Defiled Amy & Watchdog.

Here's a picture guide on the bare essentials to pick up. Afterwards, FRC spelunking is lots of fun actually (unless your farming 27.2% arcane or bloodtinge radial. that shit is suffering).
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>like how blunderbuss looks on my back even though it clips
>hate how hunter pistol looks because with this armor set it appears floating near the leg of my character
>blunder is shit in pvp as you can't reliably punish backdash healers
>pistol is actually good
Suffering.
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>>123973224
>days
Unless you aim for ultra rare shit you'll get 'normal' 27% physicals in an few hours after opening D5 CRFs.
If you're ok with slightly lesser gems it could be even faster (example: 3 watchers drop tier 19 - 27% radials but one red aura shotgun watcher guarding lever can drop tier 18 - 26,3% gem and he respawns without remaking the dungeon).
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>>123973287
>fun
>your health is a sliver and everything oneshots you
>everything else has a retarded amount of health
>fun
It's literally artificial difficulty.
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>>123973451
> the 1h moves is tonitrus tier.
No way. You clearly haven't used it enough. It's got perfectly serviceable close range spamming chains. It's far better than Tonitrus

>>123973496
It's very fast and when it connects, they get launched onto their ass which gives you the initiative and control over the situation. You can easily go from that knockdown moment to a finishing blow with the L2 Bomb.
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>>123973224
Killing Watchers (1-2 min). DLC weapon complitly op against them. Three 27% gems - 30 min maximum
Arcane don't even need to kill bosses. But you should make sacrifices to RNG god
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>>123972387
Ok i'll give it a shot. Note my list is for dealing with gankers 1st and 1v1 PvP second so it will be biased based on those situations, this is for DLC weapons of course. Weapons are ranked in tiers in order.


Tier 1.
Rakuyo
Bloodletter
Church Pick

Tier 2
Kos Parasite
Beasthunter Saif
Simon's Bowblade
Beast Cutter
Whiriligig Saw

Tier 3
Boom Hammer
MLGS
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>>123973674
Git gud then
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So with tinge having 3 weapons to choose from what setup are you running.
I invaded so many people who still ran chicaco+evelyn but it seems really like a waste.
Also did you change your firearm or is evelyn still the way to go. The rifle seems like a good contender
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>>123973492
I just used a saw spear until I got Chikage, the road to it isn't very long.
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>>123972714
>>123972635
fucking peasants
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>>123973674
>this nigga never did f/r/c chalice coop
You're missing out.
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>>123973681
waaaaah it knocks them down? holy fuk.
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How can I quickly accumulate delicious chunks?
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>>123973243
>Flat arcane

Why do you want to do less damage?
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>>123973089
Is that really how it works? Alright, thanks.
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>>123973707
>2015
>not sacrificing DaS2 discs to apphease the RNG gods
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>>123973674
It's like the highest difficulty in a dmc game. Everything practically 1-shots you so you have to dodge around and stunlock normal enemies wherever possible to play essentially without being hit, and work hard to wear down the hp of even regular enemies, who you can't just kill in a single stamina bar of stunlocks or a single visceral.

I like it. The enemies that don't go down easy and are legitimately threatening are the most fun ones and making every enemy like that makes everything much more enjoyable of a challenge.

When you are too powerful relative to your enemies (like the normal chalices and shitty watchers mooks) the game just feels like endgame darksouls where you approach everything by hitting R1 twice and moving on to the next target.
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>>123973847
Old screen. I change them for %
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>>123973787

It's not no, but I'm quite new still and rushing for shit without good kit is backfiring on me, a good weapon might be a good idea.
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>>123971981
I wish I could redo the eyes
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>>123973723
>MLGS this low when it's basically DS1 claymore
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>>123973845
Theres loads in the dlc
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>>123973674
your point?
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>>123973982
>thinking DS1 claymore is good in this game
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>>123973243
>>123973405
?
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>>123973845
jemmjmpi
>Killing brainsucker
17 sec is my record
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>>123973224
This. Exactly my feelings.
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>>123973723
>No AMY's ARM

That r1 after backstep tho
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>>123974116
you do know you did not screencap a pic of the saw right?
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>>123973260
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>>123972796
>>123973723
is bloodletter like chikage where you just go full bt

or do i need 50str/ 50bt?
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>watchers against Rakuyo
I can literally dance all around fatasses without ever getting hit because this thing barely has any recovery on anything aside from l2.
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So did Kos give Rom eyes?
With this news of her being dead, I'd question it.
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>>123974232
I strongly recommend 25/50 STR/BLT. Otherwise you're locked down to only half the weapon and can't take advantage of strong guns.
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>>123974116
Good. You can change gems to exploit weakness.
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>>123974220
I know, but im wondering that the damge is like from the saw and if it does more than physical on beasts?
Assuming its fire or something
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how is the npc hunter for rom?

not gonna bother if he gets OHKOed by single spider divebomb like normal players.
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>>123973224
You can buy all of the materials in NG+ now. If you want to pvp, just blow through one of the short or easy chalices to grab the root chalice, and then buy the materials to create it in NG+ and you can start doing glyphs. Farming isn't so bad because you're not thoroughly clearing the whole damn thing, you're just going to kill a specific enemy or boss over and over. The runs are short and straightforward, no better or worse than any pother kind of farming in any souls game.
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>>123974149
saved mine
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>>123974232
Bloodletter's untricked damage and moveset is quite shit.
I would only go to 30 STR/50 BLT with bloodletter build and purely to use cannons and minigun to their fullest potential.
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I thought insight reduces your frenzy resistance. Doesn't seem like it after checking my stats.
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>>123974232
Yeah you can just go full BLT. main mode of damage you'll be using is the transformed version anyways. You can actually make a build using both just keep str at base for bloodletter or dex at base for chikage
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>>123974232
Full BT is fine, most of your time will be spent in its two-handed form. 25str/50blt if you want to make full use of both movesets.
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>>123974356

the mensis guy? he's pretty awesome, if he runs to you don't heal, he'll heal you to full np, and spams shit all day for the adds.
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>>123974285
No, Kosm did.
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>>123974317
Ok cool, thanks
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>>123974409
>Bloodletter's untricked damage and moveset is quite shit.
Said the moron. The damage is great and the moveset is perfectly fine and actually includes a generous amount of thrusts with solid reach.

It's moronic to spec yourself so that you mainhand weapon is a piece of shit any time you feel like shooting/parrying.
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>>123973674
this
and ontop the dungeons don't have what BB and souls in general have to make them what they are:
top tier level design both mechanically and aesthetically.
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>>123974227
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what's so special about the church pick?over 100 invades and I've seen it only twice.
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>>123974317
I think il go for 42 hp then get stamina to 20
47 seems abit much
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>>123974285
I think rom was made from the knowledge gleaned via the research of the hamlet. S/He wasn't "granted eyes" by Kos directly, but rather granted them through the study of Kos and Kos' indirect influence on the hamlet. Mensis, with limited access to some of Byrgenwerth's knowledge, knows of Rom and knows that Kos is a thing, but probably don't have access to the Hamlet or its research directly in order to know that Kos is dead or that Rom was created by research and unethical arcane science rather than praying to celestial god.

It's worth noting that there's a very rom-like spider laying on the altar of despair that Ebrietas prays at.
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>>123974456
can't remember what his name was

how slow is the heal?
not much point standing around waiting if rom's raining down meteors
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>>123974434
Higher insight = lower frenzy resistance. I don't know what you're looking at which would indicate anything to the contrary.
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>>123972205
I thought the "new psn account every two weeks for the free trial" thing stopped working once they started asking for credit card numbers even on Brazilian and Japanese accounts
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>>123974593
The only thing the BB has over it is edge-factor, and they share largely the same playstyle.
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>>123973243
Where can I farm those beauties? Code and layer/enemy please?
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>church pick is just Hunter Axe:Skill Edition
>/bbg/ adores it

didn't know i was amongst dexfags
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>>123974678
character stat screen under frenzy? trying to figure this shit out so i can use bloodletter l2.
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>>123974593
It's extremely, extremely good, probably the best dlc weapon for pvp. The problem is that it's boring as hell. In a dlc full of crazy, goofy weapons it's a super bland estoc/halberd hybrid. It'll become meta once things settle down and the tryhards lose interest in the fun weapons.
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>>123974563
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>>123974626
Yeah, that makes sense.
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>>123974593
From what i've seen when it hit me in pvp the transformed attack probably has some insane multiplier, it's extremely fast and swipes cover a broad range in both forms. 2h moveset is also extremely fast.

Probably don't see it a ton because it just looks boring.
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>>123972357
The localizers are to blame for Xrd's current state in the EU since it's not up to date with the current version of the other regions.
Or at least it wasn't up until very recently, thankfully I bought a US copy so I wouldn't know :^)
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>>123974752
Not him but, radials are from Ihyll braisuckers (two af them in lever room here: r67m7z6i).
Triange from ISZ Braisucker boss, look in OP for info. That one can go as high as +72 flat arc.
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>>123974528

It's pretty damn slow for its reach, you might as well swap to a saw cleaver if you ever untrick BL.
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Thinking about STR/BLT hybrid.
Is bloodletter's untricked mode at least somehow usable? It seems to be tonitrus-tier.
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