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Ducky Edition

WoWS info

Patch Notes:
http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/35033-051-patch-notes

>5.1 Dev bulletin
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-051-dev-bulletin/
>5.1.1 Hotfix
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-0511-downtime/

>Useful Information:
http://pastebin.com/nuWhcW1K (embed) (embed) (POI)

>In-game chat channel
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel", password is "vidya"
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully ranger
SEA: /vg/

NA: [KUMA]: http://na.wargaming.net/clans/1000021519/

Steel Ocean Info
Steam page
http://store.steampowered.com/app/390670/
NA clan: No Botes Allowed, post IGN in thread to get accepted.

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>>123833749
I claim this thread for Hotel.

Literally: QTest, perfect, best.
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>>123833749
>>123518730

Have some Tech trees Anon.
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Now, I have a question for the English native speakers.

How do you understand that pet name for fubuki, I mean 'bucky'? As something related to male deer or dollars? As something related to backs ('little back', huh)?
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oh, i forgot, these 'somebody who leaps arching her back' or 'somebody who resists' variants too
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>>123834670
>>123834968
As a nickname, "Bucky" doesn't have any inherent meaning. It exists in this context only because it's an easy, more anglophonic abbreviation for fuBUKI
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>>123834670
It's a nickname bastardization given by bongou.

It doesn't have to make sense.
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>>123835186
But how do you understand it? btw it's not an abbreviation since it changes the pronunciation, it's a nickname.

I'm personally going to set with 'leaping with her back arching like a little horse' (:
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She's just so perfect ;_;
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>>123835425
It's a nickname. By definition, it doesn't have to have a meaning. It just is
>>123835405 hits it on the head
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>>123835615
Such nicknames have meanings though.
For instance if you were nicknamed 'bucky' it would mean something like 'stud', for the shipgirl i personally like the version which basicaly mean 'kicker'
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>ranked
>dependent on player skill
LOL
O
L
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>>123835941
https://youtu.be/G2z0I81LJB4?t=12s

Kongou says Buki, the crunchyroll subs(and by extension Horriblesubs) said Bucky. Stop trying to overthink this.
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>>123835941
I nickname you "faggot", because you're one.
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The 'fun' part about the letter Y in English, (Along with most English..) It can be pronounced numerous ways.

Y like Year, You, Yak, Yucky
(yuh)
And Y like Bucky, Ducky, Yucky
(Y like in REEEEEEEEEE!!!)

A glorious example of the many ways to pronounce English is Pic related.

Nicknames may have absolutely no connotations between word meanings and the object the nickname is applied to. (Other times it of course can..)
Some examples.
Peanut: I doubt the girl has the appearance of a peanut(shelled, or unshelled. And what if they touched a person allergic to peanuts?!),

Muffin: Does not always mean she likes muffins (OR looks like one.. not generally a desirable appearance)

Sunshine: I am willing to bet it took her longer than 8 minutes to get ready.

etc.
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>>123835941
>Such nicknames have meanings though.
but they don't always
sometimes someone just gets called something that has no real meaning and it just sticks because it's catchy or easy to say.
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>>123836574
>Muffin: Does not always mean she likes muffins

note, I didn't mean that fubuki has any personal traits which her nickname may suggest

I asked how you mentally understand that nickname, in relation with what meaning of that word

it seems you ignore that meaning whatsoever which is rather weird to me
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>>123836321
jesus mako I'm afraid what will happen if you git any gudder
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>>123836926
A nickname like Bucky doesn't really have any meanings in English though. It's like a lot of nicknames, just a shortened, easier to say version of the original and it has no relation to any other similar words.
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>>123837019
who r u
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The best.
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Don't sortie your hotel and keep her safe guys.
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>>123838792
Hotel is for love, not war.
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>>123839080
Exactly.
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The tier 8+ economy in ships is so fucked it isn't funny.

There are so fucking few people playing it that you get those fucking MM dumps where one team has 5 Yamatos vs a few Zaos or some shit, and the game turns into a campfest where nothing gets done because repair costs are literally 300k+.

I understand that you're supposed to play mid-low tiers for credits, but there's FUCKING JACK SHIT TO DO AT THAT LEVEL AND ITS BORING AS FUCK.


HOW DO YOU FUCK UP A GAME THIS BADLY.
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>>123838792
But I manage to do both?
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>You'll never go on an abyssal-bullying date with Hotel.

JUST
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>>123836926
I meant personal traits and connotations (characteristics/mannerisms.. not precisely 'traits')

Fubuki, is/seemed Kooky (Silly, odd, eccentric.)
and I always mentally pronounced it Foo-BOO-Key (I've since discovered there was no 'boo' like ghosts, but Buh, like a 'Buck' dollar/deer)
Though I suppose, upon thinking on it more.. Bucky as in: To bounce and flail around.. like "The horse was nicknamed bucky and tossed the cowboy to the ground." (Bucking Bronco.)
OTHERWISE:
>>123837734
has it pretty accurate..

Like shortening a name such as Elizabeth to Liz/Lizzy/Beth (Any of which could be 'pet' names depending upon the tone and how the person whose name it is, receives/connotates it.)
or shortening "My Man of African Descent who may also be my comrade!" to "Mah Niggah!"
Or.. to use another shipgirl. Ryuujou shortened to RJ.

I definitely appreciate the question though.

As a native english speaker, I am curious about:
>As something related to backs ('little back')
Would you care to explain that portion?
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>>123839294

>the game turns into a campfest

people told it me all the time but then i got my first tier 7 ship, sometimes i get battles with tier 9 ships now and those battles are all full of carnage

in a recent one i burned a baltimore from the smoke for the first blood and then burned izumo both of whom were crazy aggressive

i also watch streams and some of the tier 10 games are crazy aggressive too
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>>123839294
>get the only T10 match I've been able to get into in like 2 days, it's very heavy on the T10's
>I'm never allowed to shoot anything because the two enemy T10 CVs have it out for me and I have to spend the entire game dodging attacks
>end up dying anyway after
>despite the fact that we won, I had the repair cost flag, the credit bonus flag, and completed a mission for shooting down like 40 aircraft, and premium, still make a quarter-million credit loss
I don't know how this is meant to be fun
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>>123839561
>You'll never get the chance to fail at your one job; looking out for enemy abyssals who might try and attack the flanks.
>You'll never be tossed to safety by your Hotel as she is ambushed
>You'll never return to base dejected as your Hotel sinks below the waves due to your failure.
>You'll never go back to get revenge with another fleet to discover that your Hotel is now the enemy...
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>>123838059
Seeker
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>>123840078
ded
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>>123839767

>Bucky as in: To bounce and flail around..

I definitely like you :3

>Would you care to explain that portion?

Probably a way too far stretched guess... Buck as a spelling for back, like I believe buck for dollar was derived from an older word greenback.
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>>123839324
Don't even let her get scratched you baka!
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>just got North Carolina
>53,000 HP stock
>24 knot top speed
>57k for the hull upgrade
>21 second rudder shift
>271 meter dispersion
>slow as fuck shells that just bounce off 90% of the time they do hit because of the impact angle
>that fucking artificially limited turret traverse that basically means 1/3rd of your already low gun count is unusable unless you want to go broadside and fucking die instantly
>can't even shoot over the shoulder because the #2 turret is also artificially limited
>that fucking 500% spike in repair costs combined with how fucking campy high tier games are
>doesn't even have its actual AA loadout
>not that it matters since there aren't any CV's anymore lel

Never in my life would I have said that anything was an actual downgrade from Colorado, but there it is staring me in the god damn face.

This is such horse shit.
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>>123840778
>glance at the thumpnail and saw a qt trap with kneesocks
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>>123840778
time to upgrade her playing ranked :^)

let me explain you why ranked:

ranked games are only 7v7 so they are shorter while the xp/money gains are buffed there so you still get enough money/xp

warshipstats don't trace your ranked games and the people checking the official site check your random winrate only, nobody gives a hoot of your ranked stats

if your team carries you you will get some signals and stuff

tier 10 is burn-proof, you won't lose it
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>>123840035
>Fail

Only a sub-60% would do such a thing. Such thrash doesn't deserve a QT Hotel.
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>>123840778
>Playing anything that isn't IJN


HAH, YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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>>123840035
why it's possible
play a t8-t10 dd and div together with a yamato player to care of
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>>123841246
How about Colorado? I'm currently on rank 12 with my NM. I've unstocked Colorado already, but still have 100k XP left to get NC. Should I?
I'm such a horrible person for just thinking that.
>>123841046
You have issues, anon.
>>123841603
>>123838106
>>123838792
>>123839080
>>123835610
>>123834040

#QTHotel4lyfe
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>>123841897
>You have issues, anon.
It's because of constant spam of boat girls I swear!
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>>123841658
these jap guys are drawn exactly like those fat virgin nerds in the hentai doujinshi, especially rape and ntr ones
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>>123841997
That's how asian adult men looks like. Make it easier to self insert.
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>>123841897
why not?
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>>123840328
Ah, alright.

You are correct about greenbacks= bucks and became dollars. Though 'little backs' is slightly inaccurate, since greenbacks are/were actually bigger than the current USD.
>The more you know!

-
>I definitely like you :3
Should hop on SO sometime! We can nuke some Americans for the daily.
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Christ, so many salty fags on tonight with no clue.
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>Blow away a disabled Minekaze with my Cleveland
>"So many fucking aimassist losers on tonight"
>mfw
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>>123843441
Such is life as DD
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>>123836402
Why is she so flat. I thought Battleship are suppose to be giant and thick
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>>123843786
The Kongou sisters are pretty wellendowed as far as anime characters are concerned.

Only really super busty kancolle shipfus are Atago, Takao, Musashi, and Yamato. From memory anyway.
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>>123843786
Because she's a granny!

Fast Battleship or Battlecruiser is the actual reason I believe.
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>>123844172
>oldest in fleet
>is practically loli tier
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>>123843441
>SEA
>use aim assist
>chuckle because asians are beta faggots who won't even speak up
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>>123844240
>obsolete japanese DD and CL
>are lolis
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>>123845319
shes a Battleship
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>>123845361
I was referring to other charactors
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Who Cleveland spam here?
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>>123844609

implying it's possible to know an aim assist user from an unaided player
the only suspicious thing it's shooting over islands/right when you leave an island cover which is still possible to do without it as well
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>>123763495
Bogue poster from last night here:

my complaint isn't about being ineffective as a carrier, my complaint is making 1/3rd the xp per match with the fighter loadout than when I had 1x fighters,1xtorpbombers.

I'd like to get much more xp with each fighter kill than now so that at least it's even.
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Is the Tirpitz a decent moneymaker?
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>>123850072
Mine is
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>>123849692
There would be so many problems in this game solved if they made the rewards for shooting down planes higher.
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>Tfw the cruiser challenge is impossible to complete because nobody plays carriers anymore and the few that do know to avoid cruisers.
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>>123850981
>Play Baltimore
>never ever cv
>every once in a while get some hiryuus or lexingtons whose planes go the other side of the map
Cruisers got shafted with the missions desu. All BB have to do is fucking kill shit and the other two only have to damage shit.
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>>123850072
The britbongs would be proud of the amount of dosh the Tirpitz generates
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I want to sleep with Destroyer Division 6 in a nonsexual way.
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>>123850908
Maybe derive 66% of the value of a CV kill from the planes? Actually forcing you to kill the planes to make any xp, with planes disappearing from matches due to host kill not counting.
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>Start the match
>All BBs instantly turn sideway
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>>123853191
>sailing straight through the middle of the map instead of down one of the flanks
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>>123853191
I don't get the issue. It's not like our slowass guns can shoot through the superstructure.
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>>123851668
then who would satisfy their sexual urges if you refuse? or you want them to be neutered?
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>>123853734
Oh I would satisfy them throughout the day. But bedtime is comfytime.
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>>123853734
Everyone knows botesluts are all dykes. They have each other for those things.
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holy shit the cleveland
how is this a tier 6
it just shits on everything
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>>123851668
I want to molest them desu.
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Guess how many times I've been 1 win away from Rank 1.

>teamkill and flame press accounts
>Wargaming fucks you over quite hard beyond redemption

disgusting game
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>>123856125
you still ?.....
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>>123856125
we don't have to guess because you've blogged about it every time
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>>123856193
fuck off bad arcade kitty, you're fucking insufferable

just fuck off
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>>123856254
if i did you should've been able to guess

>shitter detected

honestly this game deserves to fucking die and i hope it does before new years eve so everyone in wargaming commits suicide for being so fucking incompetent

steel ocean is shit too so theres no good alternative

>mfw should have quit when mayhem did
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>>123856309
the quit and stop blogging
why are you even still here?
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>>123856361
literally go fuck yourself bad arcade kitty you fucking deluded piece of shit
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>>123856404
nigga are you retarded? I'm not that autistic faggot
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You are one win away from Rank 1.

What does Wargaming do?

They put you against 3 battleships because while having two in your team is too "unbalanced".
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>>123857024
Google: paranoia
Because thats what you have.
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You are 1 win from Rank 1, making it the 23rd time.

You have 2 battleships and 3 battleships against you.

What does your battleship teammate do? Expose his broadsides and dies within the first minute literally.

>>123857215
I don't think you know what paranoia is.
Real paranoia is implying everyone around you is paranoid which they aren't, in your case, this is what you're doing.
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>>123857307
>keep blogging about can't get rank 1
>muh rigged MM by WG itself
>being aggressive to other anons calling almost everyone bad kitty
No, anon. The paranoid one here is you
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>>123857616
>my beautiful slavic eastern european company is perfect, they'd never rig matchmaking, the proof i see is insufficient. i spend all of my money on them because they're always nice to me

fuck off
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>>123857748
Exactly what i expected.
Some green text shit and a "fuck off".
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>>123857748
Where are the proofs of rigged MM?))))))
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>>123857748
>I'm too shit to do something so it must mean that none of it is my fault and the game devs have a vendetta out for specifically me for some unknown reason
WG isn't some malicious boogeyman creating a conspiracy to go after a single user, they're just a shitty, greedy, incompetent game dev who managed to find a niche market to exploit
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>>123858030
pick one to watch
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>>123858091
it's like a gallery of your failures
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>>123858160
>its ur fault, those stock pensacolas/colorados/lexingtons and less battleships in your team isn't wargaming fault, ur just paranoid, plz spend more money on the dying game

Sick one dude
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>>123857748
I want to bully this autist
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It's actually depressing that Steel Ocean is the only alternative out there.

Why can't based European studios create something nice? Did EA and Activision buy most of our developers and force them to sign a contract for slave labor?
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>>123858207
>if I can't do it then it must mean the world is out to get me
>my proof is a whole folder of me being unable to win games
yeah it's pretty epic
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>>123857024
>>123857307
>>123857748
>>123858091
>>123858207
>>123858285

somepony really lost their shit
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I am one win away from Rank 1.

do I ram enemy destroyers?
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>>123833749
are there any abyssal skin packs for my burger fleet ?
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>>123858410
Just win? :^)
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>>123858410
stop blogging
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>>123858410
no you post about it on here some more
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>>123858423
yes its called get the fuck out
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>>123858423
Abyssals aren't the USN, they are more the evil shade of ships souls from all around the world
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help my nagato is stock and hes shooting he

jk its my fault hes doing it, im just paranoid :- DDDDD
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>>123851668
this and surprise headpats
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>>123858646
You can go back to reddit now
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>>123858646
You rank 1 yet?
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>>123858709
yes in spirit and mind
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>>123858487
nah
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>>123858646
You seriously need a break.
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>>123858615
never said anything about abyssals being the USN sempai
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>>123858765
but not in the game apparently
otherwise I'm sure we'd hear about it for weeks at this rate
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>>123858892
Asking abyssal skins for burger ships may imply they are.
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:- DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>wargaming thought i'd lose with a stock nagato shooting HE again

those niggas better invest some more time in rigging matchmaking because it didn't work that well this time
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>>123859196
Congratulations on your useless rewards :^)
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>>123859196
I rather see you on lose streak and rage but good job
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>>123859303
you get 13 millions and p2w skins but repair costs etc cost me 3-4 mil
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>>123858983
it may imply that, but that wasn't my intention, you're simply reading too hard into a simple question

also, the only skins I found are godawful
having a Woifu is suffering
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:- DDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>123859559
>using a historical flag mod
triggered
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Are rank 10+ battles doable in a Myoko?
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>2spooky4u
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>>123859647
do ships have skellingtons
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>>123859645
Very doable. She's Atago tier without the rudder improvement and repair ability.

Get the detection ability and if you have the concealment thingey, you can shoot without being detected.
If you don't see any ship within 16 km, it means a destroyer is nearby so if you're gud like me, you know where they will be
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>>123859692
obviously
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>>123859196
>Purple turret
War
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Is the game still boring piece of shit and dead?
Is the game full of cancerous shitcolle fags as the thread implies?
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>>123859559
>>123859647
So this is why WoWS is banned in china and they had to play SO instead
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>>123859815
why would you collect a shit
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so you can't take your IJN captain to a nazi ship? the fuck
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>>123859904
none of the controls would be in moonrunes
come the fuck on man
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post bote butt pls
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>>123859967
but why

why can't i assign gook captain to nazi ship?
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>>123859793
its pink desu
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>>123859721
Excellent. Is Situational Awareness more important than AFT for the extra AA range? I don't have Concealment Expert yet, so invisifiring is probably out of the question for the time being.
Is there anything in particular I should be doing? I kinda bullshit my way to rank 10 in the Konig, but I'm afraid things are gonna get a lot more cutthroat at these higher ranks. I hear a lot of talk about escorting and supporting destroyers, is there any truth to that? Which class of ships should be my primary targets?
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>>123860000
why should you fucking retard
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>>123859997
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Are there MMOs that have even more boring combat that this?
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>>123859303
>>123859335
AUTISM PREVAILS
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>>123849692
Pls no, I'd rather they not incentivise fighter loadouts even more.

They already traded exp for a chance to stomp the other cv completely.
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>>123859997
k
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>>123860016
If you're on Myoko or Mogami with 203cm, get these skill points.
You can still shoot while remaining undetected but it'll be hard without the concealment skill, but don't rely on it.

I haven't heard of escorting destroyers but you're supposed to hide behind islands and shoot anyone you see.
desu if you're still alive after 5-7 minutes while defending cap points, you pretty much won.

Some of my friends who played Myoko/Atago till Rank 1 did this:
>sail away from the team to flank the enemy
>shoot enemy battleships with HE while avoiding incoming fire
>run away
>repeat
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>>compare IJN to USN for CV's.
You did compare the prices right?
You get what you pay for.
All IJN CVs are much cheaper to research, buy, repair and maintain.
They can do the exact same job as US CVs in SO, but they will not be able to peak as high as them.
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>>123860073
based sblack

agano class is sexiest class
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>>123860203
fuck me
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>>123860154
>>123860207
anu pls
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>>123860259
His Kirishima is fucking hot.
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>>123860275

I just woke up after sleeping about 14 hours.
I'm still right about the CVs in SO.
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>>123860334
my nigga. the glasses get me everytime.
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>>123860384
>glasses
You mean everyfuckingthing, right?
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>>123860203
>You will never have a ship that fire 2 meter shell
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>>123859997
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>>123860000
why would you be able to?
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>>123861109
its a motherfucking captain

is this shit really restricted to nations only?
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>5 loss streak in Baltimore
>top 3 exp every time
How can people be so bad?
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>>123860779
What would those butts smell like?
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>>123860000 (checked)

Very nice.

You can in Steel Ocean though.
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>>123861325
EU?
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>>123860452
Reminder that this is Jingles' waifu
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>>123861235
yes, why the fuck would it not be?
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>>123861402
That motherfucker have good taste.
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>>123861529
>>123860452

Why are you guys posting pictures of trees?
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>>123861596
This tree is better than your waifu.
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>>123861720

Thats a good joke nigga.
My waifu > you're a shit waifu.
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>>123861401
NA, also, 6 losses now :^)
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>>123860203
>>123860268
Cool, thanks anon
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reminder if you don't have rank 1 you're a shitter
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>>123859997
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>>123862343
excellent shitpost brother :^ )
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>>123862343
+1 upboat
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>>123862343
but I do have rank 1
and I didn't even have to shitpost about getting there
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>>123862734
and i have rank 1 too :^)
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>>123862734
>>123862343

ShipREKT
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>>123862734
I'm Trump. :^)
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>>123862343
I want the JIDF to stop shitting up the thread.
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>>123861336
Right one probably smell like dick
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>>123862343
>Rank 1 in shitposting
You can have that rank for all we care.
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>tfw you taught a Colorado how to shoot citadel today
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Anyone wanna play tier 1? gonna start playing US ships for funs
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>>123864056
Is EU active? How many people are usually in /vg/ chat nowadays?
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>>123864201
>How many people are usually in /vg/ chat nowadays?
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Good morning /wowsg/
I hope you all had a nice round of sleep, and wish you all have a nice day.

Have a QT Hotel to brighten up your morning.
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>>123864296
Because on NA, never more than 4-5 these days. Used to be 10+ people in /vg/ chat back in the day.
This game is dying.
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>>123864823
there's literally no one in EU chat, used to be 2-3 occasionally but not anymore.

wargoyim milking its userbase
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>>123864823
>>123864861
I'm on SEA but I'm afraid of you guys calling me a shitter.
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>>123864953
I blog constantly it'll be fine brah
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>>123864953
get an account on EU and play with me, I'm currently doing some tier 2 shenanigans :^)
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>>123865071
I have the server change mod but I've never tried it. I'd probably lag like a bitch though.
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>>123865271
are you strayan? otherwise your ping will be 200~
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>>123858331
>somepony
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>>123864823
There are still that many?
I closed the tab because there was never anyone on.
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damn the chester is awful
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>>123865676
4-5 at most, which is maybe a couple hours every day or so. Most of the time it's just myself, or a couple people who never say anything.
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>>123850981
Why does no one play CV anymore? What happened?

I still see CV's around and play Hosho myself.
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>>123866940
you wont see CVs in high tiers anymore because they're greedy spoiled cunts who still want to get 500k~ credits opposed to 200k~ which is what they get today

thank god they got nerfed, overpowered as fuck
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>>123867101
also they shouldn't get 200k+ credits, they should lose 50k credits for each plane shot down

motherfuckers
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>>123867101
Nerfed like what?

I really don't see the reason for the hate, my planes tend to get torn up, especially by USN fighters. My torpedoes runs usually score a hit or two but destroyers just run past everyone and sneak up behind me to royally wreck me.
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>>123867429
they didn't get nerfed (they got buffed) but they earn 3 times less now

thats right, they're not satisfied with 100k-200k credits after each battle, they all want 500k+ as they did before

these are t9-t10 CV players, judging your post, i guess you're playing tier 4 or 5
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>playing on ocean
>cant see a destroyer anywhere near me, closest enemy I see is 14km away
>suddenly torps
>cant move at all and get rekt

epic desu
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>>123867775
Git gud.
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>>123867526
Yeah, I like to stick to my Hosho and Zuiho (I haven't taken her out for a run in a while though)

I wasn't aware you earn less in carriers. That seems ridiculous that you would downgrade earnings to 1/5 just based on what type of boat. If they scouted out and guarded allies and threw torpedos at distracted battleships like they're supposed to and helped the team win, I don't see the point in suddenly making them earn less for the same work.

Did they make it so destroyers don't get money unless they're hitting with torpedoes, too?
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>>123867775
>look at team panels
>see DD on enemy team
>simply change course every 30 seconds
>enemy DD never hits me
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>>123866014
Nobody says nothing because rarely anyone replies.

And I have given up in asking for divs, since nobody replies either.
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>>123867983
no, getting cap points give you a fuckton of credits and xp now
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>>123868065
Which works for everyone, not just DDs.

Ironically, this was meant to make BBs go into the cap areas.
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>>123868173
yes but at the same time, they increased repair costs for crusiers and battleships

whenever i play zao, i keep seeing t10 destroyers in queue and none for cruisers and battleships
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>>123868173
What the fuck are the slavs smoking? That's not even supposed to be the role of a BB, it takes them ages to reach a cap and not get blown up by torp spam coming in from DDs.

Are CVs supposed to cap points too?
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>>123868281
No CVs means DDs can kill BBs with relative ease.

Lots of DDs means CAs are perma-detected and get clicked by the baBBies.

Guess what everyone now plays.
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>>123868486
they wanted to encourage destroyers and cruisers to fight on the front line more

idk why he said this was intended for battleships
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>>123868486
It could be their solution for increasing DD's exp and income because people finally saw stats. BBs and CVs doesn't get any decrease, just capping increases exp and DDs are the ones capping the most so they get the benefit.
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>>123868698
no they ruined the economy for everything except for destroyers
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>>123868656
>Guess what everyone now plays.
Destroyers?
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>>123867526
CVs actually got nerfed. USN drop range at high tiers was increased, and IJN TB torps are now slower.
Not like it matters, since both nations can still outmaneuver cruisers and make unavoidable drops.

I had no idea of the credit income nerf. That explains why the CV population is still down even after the fighter skill bug was fixed.

>>123868173
It was actually intended to give DD's something useful to do. Before the patch, I'd rather go try to gib a battleship around an island than try to collect caps in my USN DD, because it was more profitable even on a defeat. Now it's more valuable to go around racing for caps the entire match, and hunting down the DD's that are trying the same thing on the other side.

BB's barely benefit from this, since they will collect one or two caps at most. As a player who plays BB's aggresively and pushes for objectives, I didn't notice much change in my XP income before and after the patch.
Cruisers also barely benefit from this, since they're too big and visible to stealth cap.
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>>123868675
one of the translated dev posts said that they wanted to encourage BBs to close with the enemy.

I also have to point outthat the notion of cruisers getting closer than max range at t7 or above is utterly ridiculous.
Islands can of course help, but unless they return cruiser survivability to alpha-levels, I'm not seein any cruisers getting up close and personal for torp runs.

Also, getting close to any DD with a functioning brain is not possible, the DD can simply turn away and run any time he wants.

On top of that, cruisers lose teh ability to easily dodge torps between t7 and t9. You will simply not see Yorcks or Ibukis charging in to kill a DD.
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>>123869414
>DD can simply turn away and run any time he wants
Other than the soviet DDs, the others cannot really run away because they have the same speed as cruisers.
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Who the fuck thought detonation was a good idea? It's literally luck based shit. You can do well and easily murder three half dead cruisers only to eat a single torp and detonate. Flags are stupid too. Why the fuck do I have to get detonated to get measures to NOT get detonated? What a fucking ass backwards way of doing things.

They could literally just remove detonation from this game and the game would be 10 times better.
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>>123864471
Nalil plz
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>>123869862
I've been detonated 10 times in over 1000 games, it really doesn't happen enough for it to be a concern, stop being so angry at something so inconsequential.
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>>123869862
remind me of critical strikes in TF2
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>>123870047
Fuck off. We literally ad a game that could have been turned around if a full HP BB didn't detonate through no real fault of his.
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reminder if you are not rank 1, it's time to git gud or git out
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>>123870298
Wave stop dickwaving
come play SO with me
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>>123870298
1v1 me fgt
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>>123870370
who the fugg is this and SO got terrible ship maneuverability + i'm gonna lag hard because it's in NA
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>>123870470
I'm playing from SEA and can still carry.
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>>123870526
is it in closed beta or is it officially? if theres gonna be stat reset, i rather wait
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>>123870470
I'm playing from siemaland and I'm almost top rank there.

You should remember me faggot
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>>123870643
kek come back to warships nigguh

play some t3 or t5 with me
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>>123869862
Calm down. It doesn't happen often enough to be the issue you're making it out to be.

And it makes a lot of sense to have detonations in a naval game. Naval combat actually has lots of luck involved: gun dispersion, ammorack detonations, unexpected banks of fog, etc .
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>>123870179
At least you can respawn and have another go and turning things around. And if you're a competitive tryhard, crits are disabled anyway. You'll only be getting crits in pub servers in which everyone is mucking around anyway.
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>>123870685
But I'm having fun there.

Tier VIII in 3 weeks dindu step up
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>>123870712
This isn't real life though. If you want to make a game that's fair and balanced, then you try to minimise instances where luck is a deciding factor. RNG and dispersion can be compensated with shot leading etc. There's nothing of the sort that you can do for detonations.
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>>123870967
>This isn't real life though

except it happened much more often
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>>123870580
it's not in beta

>play SO
>get tired of fucking sucking in carriers
>try to gitgud
>discover this

oh what the fuck
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>>123870997
You're trying to make a game that's as fair as balanced as possible. They could literally remove all instances of it and no one would miss it.
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>Trying to sneak up on enemy CV
>Suddenly random 1000 ping spikes
>Detected
>Randomly weave around while spiking
>Dodge both TB point blank salvos by the edges

I'm still mad I couldn't get the kill.
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>>123871074
first I don't know I had to buy smoke
now this

thanks m8
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I have 9k exp on the Myogi and 8k free xp, should I use it all eventually for the Kongou? The only other ship I can think of that I'd like to use it on is the KArl.
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>>123871632
Grind to Kongo, use that free exp for all the upgrades. Stock Kongo is pretty trash. It only gets good once you get some upgrades in.
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>>123851668
>You'll never be woken up by DesDiv6 in an adorable manner.
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>>123871632
Like above non said
Unupgraded Kongou are slow moving slow reloading ship
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>>123871802
>>123871891
But the Myogi is so bad.
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>>123870967
>>123871092
This may be an arcade game, but a lot of people play this for the historical warships aspect. If you remove detonations, you'll have people complaining about the lack of Hood-vs-Bismarck moments.

And there are far more pressing balance issues. Detonations should really be the least of your worries.
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When is it economical to use consumables in SO?

I'm asking in the sense of, in WoT it's a pure waste of money to use a fire extinguisher costing 3k in a sub-tier 5 battle because you just don't earn that much, and its pretty much mandatory at tier 6 and up because the cost is nothing compared to the stakes in a match.
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>>123872276
So was stock Kongou
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>>123858331
>Somepony

>TFW Had to actually check if it was spelled wrong, or simply read wrong in my head.

>>123859618
You probably should not look into flag options available by default in SO...

>>123860000
>Not setting your glorious USN Ship up with the flag of her captain's nation.
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>>123872370

I used consumables in a tier 5-6+ just because I can. Also being able to repair yourself is good. Also no, tier 6+ repair bills are barely anything.
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>>123872329
I don't think history buffs are playing for detonations nor will raise a stink if it's missing. Detonations are potentially game-changing events that isn't rewarded due to skill, but by luck.
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>>123872527
I remember spamming smoke and repairs in tier 3 and still come out on credits. Better to win with them than lose without them.
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>>123872370
>When is it economical to use consumables in SO?

all the time. they're cheap enough and you get a lot of dosh when you win
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>>123872742
Not to be a nitpicker, but I'll be a nitpicker and note that you earn 4k from a tier 1 battle and a fire extinguisher costs 3k.
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